Post by: zrxoa1 on May 10, 2017, 06:40:58 AM
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Post by: El Corkscrew on May 10, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
Post by: magentus on May 10, 2017, 11:40:56 AM
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 10, 2017, 11:49:14 AM
Post by: zoidberg on May 10, 2017, 11:50:07 AM
Post by: Don Pablo on May 10, 2017, 11:52:18 AM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: (G-F joining the flock):popcorn: :popcorn::popcorn: :popcorn:(You know)
Post by: Ron Who on May 10, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: ::popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: (G-F joining the flock):popcorn: :popcorn::popcorn: :popcorn:(You know)
Post by: magentus on May 10, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
wOOp, zoid just here for the popcorn. :popcorn:I'll pop you in with the rest of us. I know you don't play well with others but we'd love to have you over. :D
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Post by: zoidberg on May 10, 2017, 12:02:01 PM
wOOp, zoid just here for the popcorn. :popcorn:I'll pop you in with the rest of us. I know you don't play well with others but we'd love to have you over. :D
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Thanks da. :cheers:
Post by: Mechanickal on May 10, 2017, 12:05:13 PM
Y'all know the drill
Post by: Reinier on May 10, 2017, 12:06:20 PM
Post by: magentus on May 10, 2017, 12:18:56 PM
I don't really like popcorn :facepalm:I'll eat yours then.
Post by: Mechanickal on May 10, 2017, 12:25:10 PM
That's what she said...I don't really like popcorn :facepalm:I'll eat yours then.
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 10, 2017, 01:04:14 PM
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Post by: Reinier on May 10, 2017, 01:08:03 PM
That's what she said...I don't really like popcorn :facepalm:I'll eat yours then.
Are you pfrsantos?
Post by: Ron Who on May 10, 2017, 01:08:54 PM
I take it I said something I shouldn't have?
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I wouldn't know about that. I think most of us are waiting for an answer to your OP. Many Swiss Army Knights might not know about Camillus.
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 10, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
Are you pfrsantos?
That's what she said
Post by: Ron Who on May 10, 2017, 01:10:33 PM
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 10, 2017, 01:11:10 PM
And we like spamming, derailing, and popcorn.
And awls, don't forget the awls!
Post by: Ron Who on May 10, 2017, 01:11:56 PM
Post by: zoidberg on May 10, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
Are you pfrsantos?
That's what she said
:rofl:
Post by: Corwyn on May 10, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
Here I go.
Poorly.
Post by: SAK Guy on May 10, 2017, 01:36:56 PM
Post by: Reinier on May 10, 2017, 01:39:31 PM
And we like spamming, derailing, and popcorn.
Have you read the thread? I don't like popcorn :twak:
Post by: magentus on May 10, 2017, 01:55:08 PM
And we like spamming, derailing, and everyone except Reinier likes popcorn.
Have you read the thread? I don't like popcorn :twak:
FTFY :salute:
Post by: Reinier on May 10, 2017, 02:00:26 PM
And we like spamming, derailing, and everyone except Reinier likes popcorn.
Have you read the thread? I don't like popcorn :twak:
FTFY :salute:
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Post by: Mechanickal on May 10, 2017, 05:04:15 PM
:dwts:That's what she said...I don't really like popcorn :facepalm:I'll eat yours then.
Are you pfrsantos?
Post by: VICMAN on May 10, 2017, 07:15:21 PM
So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
Post by: cody6268 on May 10, 2017, 08:22:34 PM
Post by: Guardian on May 10, 2017, 08:32:37 PM
Oh.................I seem to be too late :whistle: tum, te, tum, te, tum.........nothing to see here...........just leaving................
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 10, 2017, 08:33:46 PM
:like: :like: :like: :tu:So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 10, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
I have been looking at pics on eBay. The Camillus doesn't "look" to be as well made as the SAK. The bail on the US knife is hideous! I couldn't deal with the can opener either. I depend on the smaller flat head far too much.
Thank you for the info and pics!!
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Post by: ColoSwiss on May 10, 2017, 10:28:01 PM
Post by: twiliter on May 10, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
In addition to the before mentioned back spring problems, the Camillus' have a well deserved reputation for removing thumbnails. They're also cruder than the SAKs.
Cruder yes, like prehistorically so. ;)
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 10, 2017, 10:41:49 PM
I love my Wenger and it will continue to be with me daily.
That said, I will source a less expensive example of the Camillus someday and add to the collection.
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Post by: ColoSwiss on May 10, 2017, 10:43:37 PM
So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
I have been looking at pics on eBay. The Camillus doesn't "look" to be as well made as the SAK. The bail on the US knife is hideous! I couldn't deal with the can opener either. I depend on the smaller flat head far too much.
Thank you for the info and pics!!
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The oversized bail on the Camillus was for attaching to a mess kit handle with other utensils for cleaning in a tub of hot soapy water.
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 10, 2017, 10:49:16 PM
So what's the deal with the nail nicks causing so much trouble.
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Post by: twiliter on May 10, 2017, 10:51:00 PM
So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
I have been looking at pics on eBay. The Camillus doesn't "look" to be as well made as the SAK. The bail on the US knife is hideous! I couldn't deal with the can opener either. I depend on the smaller flat head far too much.
Thank you for the info and pics!!
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The oversized bail on the Camillus was for attaching to a mess kit handle with other utensils for cleaning in a tub of hot soapy water.
LOL :rofl:
Oh my... :like:
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 10, 2017, 10:55:54 PM
Well, then it was made that way for a reason. Shame on me for not knowing better. Thank you for the education.
So what's the deal with the nail nicks causing so much trouble.
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They are extremely stiff to open and often break thumbnails. I inherited several from my Dad; got rid of all of them.
Post by: twiliter on May 10, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
Either you are just one funny guy CS, or whoever told you that story was. :like: :cheers:
Post by: SAK Guy on May 10, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
With all due respect to the SAK world, of which I am gladly a part of, I had hoped for better reports on the US version. Being a US citizen, I would like to "support" my country by carrying a US made knife like the Camillus. However, at almost 50 years old, I have no desire to deal with something that substandard.
I love my Wenger and it will continue to be with me daily.
That said, I will source a less expensive example of the Camillus someday and add to the collection.
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Then carry one of these..... All these except the CASE and KaBar (maybe) are Camillus made. There are Camillus branded Scouts of fine quality and Remington Camp/Scouts that are also Camillus made.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Western%20901%204-8-17_zpsdl5xkm6u.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Remington%20Scout-Camp_zpsfaztv5s4.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Two%20Scouts%20-%20Camillus%20amp%20Kabar_zpswxzsuoxm.jpg)
You can even get one with a Phillips...
Imperial BSA 5 Blade Scout.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Imperial%205%20Tool%20BSA%20Scout%205-8-17_zpsldmpb5fp.jpg)
Scout thread...
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71569.msg1458308.html#msg1458308
Post by: twiliter on May 10, 2017, 11:06:56 PM
The mess kit, excellent, the "army knife", not so much...
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 10, 2017, 11:14:43 PM
And then the bail is used as a safety, to keep that soapy blade from taking your trigger finger ALL the way off... :rofl:
Either you are just one funny guy CS, or whoever told you that story was. :like: :cheers:
It was originally intended for the Camillus to replace the mess kit knife. However the various nooks and crannies made it too hard to clean properly. The oversized bail was retained for cleaning the can opener.
Post by: Roc on May 10, 2017, 11:17:57 PM
:drool: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :cheers:With all due respect to the SAK world, of which I am gladly a part of, I had hoped for better reports on the US version. Being a US citizen, I would like to "support" my country by carrying a US made knife like the Camillus. However, at almost 50 years old, I have no desire to deal with something that substandard.
I love my Wenger and it will continue to be with me daily.
That said, I will source a less expensive example of the Camillus someday and add to the collection.
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Then carry one of these..... All these except the CASE and KaBar (maybe) are Camillus made. There are Camillus branded Scouts of fine quality and Remington Camp/Scouts that are also Camillus made.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Western%20901%204-8-17_zpsdl5xkm6u.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Remington%20Scout-Camp_zpsfaztv5s4.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Two%20Scouts%20-%20Camillus%20amp%20Kabar_zpswxzsuoxm.jpg)
You can even get one with a Phillips...
Imperial BSA 5 Blade Scout.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Imperial%205%20Tool%20BSA%20Scout%205-8-17_zpsldmpb5fp.jpg)
Scout thread...
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71569.msg1458308.html#msg1458308
Post by: SAK Guy on May 10, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
:drool: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :cheers:With all due respect to the SAK world, of which I am gladly a part of, I had hoped for better reports on the US version. Being a US citizen, I would like to "support" my country by carrying a US made knife like the Camillus. However, at almost 50 years old, I have no desire to deal with something that substandard.
I love my Wenger and it will continue to be with me daily.
That said, I will source a less expensive example of the Camillus someday and add to the collection.
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Then carry one of these..... All these except the CASE and KaBar (maybe) are Camillus made. There are Camillus branded Scouts of fine quality and Remington Camp/Scouts that are also Camillus made.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Western%20901%204-8-17_zpsdl5xkm6u.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Remington%20Scout-Camp_zpsfaztv5s4.jpg)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Two%20Scouts%20-%20Camillus%20amp%20Kabar_zpswxzsuoxm.jpg)
You can even get one with a Phillips...
Imperial BSA 5 Blade Scout.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Imperial%205%20Tool%20BSA%20Scout%205-8-17_zpsldmpb5fp.jpg)
Scout thread...
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71569.msg1458308.html#msg1458308
Thx Rocky!! :salute:
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 10, 2017, 11:31:40 PM
Americans don't give it their best unless nuclear power is involved .... :D
Post by: Roc on May 10, 2017, 11:32:37 PM
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 11, 2017, 04:23:22 AM
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Post by: VICMAN on May 11, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
So, how does the US Army Camillus knife compare to the SI or Soldier?
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I have a 1993 Camillus US Army knife and if I compare it to a Victorinox alox Soldier knife the Vic wins in my opinion.
The awl on the Vic works much better.
The cap lifters on both knives are similar, but the Vic has a little wider screwdriver tip on it.
The Vic can opener is, in my opinion, much quicker to use. The Camillus can opener is the claw type that goes clock wise around the can.
The main blade on the Camillus is similar in shape to the Vic.
Here are pictures of a Camillus and a Vic for comparison
I have been looking at pics on eBay. The Camillus doesn't "look" to be as well made as the SAK. The bail on the US knife is hideous! I couldn't deal with the can opener either. I depend on the smaller flat head far too much.
Thank you for the info and pics!!
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You are welcome!
Post by: deputy tom on May 11, 2017, 11:07:21 PM
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 11, 2017, 11:10:59 PM
I've owned Camillus army knives and Vic Soldier & Wenger SI knives. The Swiss models are my favorites. I've since sold the Camillus models to collectors. YMMV. tom. 8)
I bought the Camillus for $25. It'll be a keeper. Probably live in a drawer. Haha!
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Post by: thatotherguy on May 13, 2017, 02:42:46 PM
ETA: My demo knife is a beat up '71 Imperial I found somewhere along the way, probably at a yard sale, for the record.
Now, if you're talking about authentic Camillus bone scaled official Boy Scouts of America knives, the comparison gets harder. Those knives were beautiful, perhaps too much so for the abuse they were destined to receive in the hands of young scouts (I'm an Eagle Scout, I've seen some horrid things done to pocketknives over the years). For pure functionality and setting nostalgia aside, however, the Vic still wins. There's a reason why the only decent multifunction official scout knives currently in production are Victorinox. For full disclosure, I'm a sucker for a good four-blade Scout pattern, which is why the Pioneer is my favorite Swiss Army knife.
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Post by: El Corkscrew on May 13, 2017, 06:07:37 PM
The Vic is a better knife in every way than the old stamped steel demo knife. The steel on the demo knife is softer and harder to sharpen without rolling or burring, the can opener is nigh useless, the awl is too blunt to effectively use, the scales are sharp and uncomfortable in the hands, and the backsprings break fairly commonly. Aside from nostalgia or a militaria collection (I lean towards the collection side), there is no reason to prefer the demo knife over the Soldier or SI.
ETA: My demo knife is a beat up '71 Imperial I found somewhere along the way, probably at a yard sale, for the record.
Now, if you're talking about authentic Camillus bone scaled official Boy Scouts of America knives, the comparison gets harder. Those knives were beautiful, perhaps too much so for the abuse they were destined to receive in the hands of young scouts (I'm an Eagle Scout, I've seen some horrid things done to pocketknives over the years). For pure functionality and setting nostalgia aside, however, the Vic still wins. There's a reason why the only decent multifunction official scout knives currently in production are Victorinox. For full disclosure, I'm a sucker for a good four-blade Scout pattern, which is why the Pioneer is my favorite Swiss Army knife.
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:like: I enjoyed reading that.
Post by: SAK Guy on May 13, 2017, 11:48:03 PM
The Vic is a better knife in every way than the old stamped steel demo knife. The steel on the demo knife is softer and harder to sharpen without rolling or burring, the can opener is nigh useless, the awl is too blunt to effectively use, the scales are sharp and uncomfortable in the hands, and the backsprings break fairly commonly. Aside from nostalgia or a militaria collection (I lean towards the collection side), there is no reason to prefer the demo knife over the Soldier or SI.
ETA: My demo knife is a beat up '71 Imperial I found somewhere along the way, probably at a yard sale, for the record.
Now, if you're talking about authentic Camillus bone scaled official Boy Scouts of America knives, the comparison gets harder. Those knives were beautiful, perhaps too much so for the abuse they were destined to receive in the hands of young scouts (I'm an Eagle Scout, I've seen some horrid things done to pocketknives over the years). For pure functionality and setting nostalgia aside, however, the Vic still wins. There's a reason why the only decent multifunction official scout knives currently in production are Victorinox. For full disclosure, I'm a sucker for a good four-blade Scout pattern, which is why the Pioneer is my favorite Swiss Army knife.
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:cheers: :cheers:
Post by: thatotherguy on May 13, 2017, 11:52:11 PM
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Post by: zrxoa1 on May 17, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
I was shocked. The thing is new but the blade is in rough shape. It "looks" good at first glance, but the blade is nicked up. I'll have to clean it up some.
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Post by: zrxoa1 on May 17, 2017, 09:27:02 PM
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Post by: thatotherguy on May 21, 2017, 01:13:57 AM
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Post by: stugumby on June 19, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
Also there are some cheap copies out there, schrade and rough rider come to mind.