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Title: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on December 31, 2016, 04:52:06 PM
Hey guys just wondering what is everyone's favorite matches :tu:

I like a few different types but my favorite two are probably the UCO Stormproof matches (just cause they are so cool  8) :D )  and the Strike Anywhere ones from Diamond :dd:

I will get a couple pics up later but if you have any favorite matches let us about them and why you like them :tu: Pics are very much welcome :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 31, 2016, 07:56:50 PM
I often just use the Bird wooden matches, as they are the easiest to get a hold of, but I really want to try some different ones and see what might be better.  They aren't water or wind proof, and I often end up using some better ones.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on December 31, 2016, 08:25:04 PM
Strike anywhere matches are hard to find.  I have some Coleman water proof matches but they are water resistant at best. 

I like the looks of those UCO matches as well.  I actually only have lighters now.  I've abandoned matches all together.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 31, 2016, 08:29:22 PM
I prefer matches for lighting camp stoves and camp fires.  Not that it can't be done with lighters, I just have always used matches for that kind of thing.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on December 31, 2016, 08:35:13 PM
I prefer matches for lighting camp stoves and camp fires.  Not that it can't be done with lighters, I just have always used matches for that kind of thing.

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I went the opposite way.  I now use the long reach lighters for my Coleman stoves.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 31, 2016, 08:41:21 PM
I have done that from time to time too, but I prefer matches, especially for the Bio Lite stove, which burns wood anyway.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on December 31, 2016, 09:59:02 PM
Strike anywhere matches are hard to find.  I have some Coleman water proof matches but they are water resistant at best. 

I like the looks of those UCO matches as well.  I actually only have lighters now.  I've abandoned matches all together.

There is a hardware store I got to that sells them and they are as cheap as strike on box matches :o I usually buy the kitchen matches as I like that size better :cheers:

I haven't tried any water proof matches except for the UCO and those are almost impossible to put out once lit :dd: Even sticking them in a cup of water only dampens the flame but once you take it out it relights itself :o :like: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on December 31, 2016, 09:59:39 PM
I will have to look the bird brand matches up and see about them :think: :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 31, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
My mistake, they are called Redbird.

(http://www.armyandnavy.ca/assets/images/productLarge/wf_4038_large.jpg)

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on December 31, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
My mistake, they are called Redbird.

(http://www.armyandnavy.ca/assets/images/productLarge/wf_4038_large.jpg)

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I saw those on Ebay but I don't think I have ever saw that brand around here for sale :think: Some very nice artwork on it :tu: How well do they light :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on December 31, 2016, 10:47:38 PM
I have almost put myself into the mood to go to the back porch and light some matches :dd: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on December 31, 2016, 11:43:31 PM
They are the most common wood match here.  I see them almost everywhere, which is why those are the ones I usually get.  It's availability, not brand loyalty.

They light well enough.  Occasionally one won't light or one will break or they will go out as soon as the head is burnt, but I don't think they are any better or worse than any other plain old every day wood match you get.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Fortytwo on January 04, 2017, 10:06:32 PM
The go to brand here in Sweden is Solstickan, they are a charity that generates their money from the sales of matches. I also have an old box of matches from Jönköping-Vulcan, once the largest match-factory in the world. Sweden has traditionally been a major country when it comes to matches with Ivar Kreuger as the main man negotiating match monopolies around the world in exchange for loans to the local governments.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58245811/Multitool.org%20-%20Pictures/20170104_215758-2064x1161.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 04, 2017, 10:31:42 PM
The go to brand here in Sweden is Solstickan, they are a charity that generates their money from the sales of matches. I also have an old box of matches from Jönköping-Vulcan, once the largest match-factory in the world. Sweden has traditionally been a major country when it comes to matches with Ivar Kreuger as the main man negotiating match monopolies around the world in exchange for loans to the local governments.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58245811/Multitool.org%20-%20Pictures/20170104_215758-2064x1161.jpg)

Very neat looking match box :cheers: :cheers: :like:

and thanks for a little history of matches in Sweden there as well :like: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Fortytwo on January 05, 2017, 12:30:38 AM
The go to brand here in Sweden is Solstickan, they are a charity that generates their money from the sales of matches. I also have an old box of matches from Jönköping-Vulcan, once the largest match-factory in the world. Sweden has traditionally been a major country when it comes to matches with Ivar Kreuger as the main man negotiating match monopolies around the world in exchange for loans to the local governments.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58245811/Multitool.org%20-%20Pictures/20170104_215758-2064x1161.jpg)

Very neat looking match box :cheers: :cheers: :like:

and thanks for a little history of matches in Sweden there as well :like: :like:

It's worth noting that the design is more or less unchanged since its introduction in 1936.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 05, 2017, 03:03:10 AM
The go to brand here in Sweden is Solstickan, they are a charity that generates their money from the sales of matches. I also have an old box of matches from Jönköping-Vulcan, once the largest match-factory in the world. Sweden has traditionally been a major country when it comes to matches with Ivar Kreuger as the main man negotiating match monopolies around the world in exchange for loans to the local governments.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58245811/Multitool.org%20-%20Pictures/20170104_215758-2064x1161.jpg)

Very neat looking match box :cheers: :cheers: :like:

and thanks for a little history of matches in Sweden there as well :like: :like:

It's worth noting that the design is more or less unchanged since its introduction in 1936.

That is pretty cool 8)  :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 05, 2017, 01:09:15 PM
Agreed- if I had access to something that was decent quality, readily available and supported charity that is probably the one I would use too.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 09, 2017, 02:52:57 AM
So does anyone else out in the world have some pics of favorite matches or match boxes :cheers: :cheers: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on January 09, 2017, 03:28:14 AM
No favourites here, I just use whatever's cheap. I'm only going to set fire to them anyway  :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 09, 2017, 04:23:25 AM
No favourites here, I just use whatever's cheap. I'm only going to set fire to them anyway  :D

But are there any interesting match books or match box art like what 42 had above :dd: :think: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: AimlessWanderer on January 09, 2017, 02:53:23 PM
No favourites here, I just use whatever's cheap. I'm only going to set fire to them anyway  :D

But are there any interesting match books or match box art like what 42 had above :dd: :think: :D

 :think:

No, sorry

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 09, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
I was mistaken- rather than Redbird I seem to have Touch matches in my outdoor cooking kit at the moment.

I seem to recall buying them at some little corner shop in a small town a whIle ago.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2017, 07:16:05 PM
I was mistaken- rather than Redbird I seem to have Touch matches in my outdoor cooking kit at the moment.

I seem to recall buying them at some little corner shop in a small town a whIle ago.

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Never saw that brand either :tu: :like: :like:

The box reminds me of a McCormick black pepper container  :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 01:03:43 AM
I have a bigger box of those one kicking around somewhere too.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 01:21:14 AM
The absolute best matches I've ever had are strike anywhere Swan Vestas. I've only found them once in a Tobacconist's shop after reading they were a cult item among pipe and cigar smokers. The heads are pink because they mix the compounds together instead of tipping the head. The box equipped with a sandpaper surface rather than a common striking strip.

Another favorite is the Coghlan's Waterproof Safety matches in the wooden sleeve box. I call them "Greenies"...but the last pack I bought have brown heads, so I guess I'll have to start calling them "Brownies"  ::)

I like the Coleman Waterproof matches...the boxes they come in are made of a durable plastic coated cardboard.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 02:00:23 AM
I'll have to check my local smoke shops for those Swan ones.  If they get the Spork seal of approval they must be good!

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 02:31:24 AM
I'll have to check my local smoke shops for those Swan ones.  If they get the Spork seal of approval they must be good!

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Make sure you check for the sandpaper strip....they also have a safety match version
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 02:33:21 AM
Thanks- I'll have a look and see what I can come up with.  What are your thoughts on a match safe, or is that a whole different thread?  :D

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 02:52:56 AM
Thanks- I'll have a look and see what I can come up with.  What are your thoughts on a match safe, or is that a whole different thread?  :D

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There's a lot of matchsafes...but Nalgene bottles are cheap and bombproof. If you have a reliable source of SA kitchen matches (like those Redbirds) all you need is a spot of skateboard tape for striking...our current Diamond brand SA matches really suck.

The 1 oz Nalgene widemouth will hold kitchen matches without trimming...the 2 oz will hold REI Storm matches

(bonus pic of old school matchsafe I used for many years  :D )

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 02:58:53 AM
Thanks- I'll have a look and see what I can come up with.  What are your thoughts on a match safe, or is that a whole different thread?  :D

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There's a lot of matchsafes...but Nalgene bottles are cheap and bombproof. If you have a reliable source of SA kitchen matches (like those Redbirds) all you need is a spot of skateboard tape for striking...our current Diamond brand SA matches really suck.

The 1 oz Nalgene widemouth will hold kitchen matches without trimming...the 2 oz will hold REI Storm matches

(bonus pic of old school matchsafe I used for many years  :D )

s this the one you are talking about?  If so, the price is certainly right!

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5009-937/HDPE-Bottle

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 03:04:53 AM
It would be the 30ml size - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/1601-178/Wide-Mouth-HDPE-Water-Bottle
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2017, 03:20:30 AM
I'll have to check my local smoke shops for those Swan ones.  If they get the Spork seal of approval they must be good!

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+1 I will have to look for those as well :tu: Love the pics as usual Spork :cheers: :like: :like:

and thanks for the suggestions :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 03:24:25 AM
Look for a real Tobacconist shop...not the kind that sells Ecigs and Hookahs  :D
 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 03:40:46 PM
It would be the 30ml size - https://www.mec.ca/en/product/1601-178/Wide-Mouth-HDPE-Water-Bottle

Whoa, that really blows the budget!   :ahhh

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 18, 2017, 03:41:20 PM
Look for a real Tobacconist shop...not the kind that sells Ecigs and Hookahs  :D

If DaveK were here those would be fighting words!  :D

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on January 18, 2017, 04:58:28 PM
 :ahhh
Look for a real Tobacconist shop...not the kind that sells Ecigs and Hookahs  :D

If DaveK were here those would be fighting words!  :D

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 :ahhh
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on February 07, 2017, 10:02:19 AM
Grew up with Swan Vesta's in England and still my go to match. Can't stand safety matches.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 07, 2017, 10:48:36 PM
Look for a real Tobacconist shop...not the kind that sells Ecigs and Hookahs  :D

If DaveK were here those would be fighting words!  :D

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 :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 06, 2017, 02:22:02 AM
Totally ignoring Spork's advice above, I decided to pick up the UCO Titan matchsafe yesterday.  I was in MEC looking for something else when I came across it and thought "hey, I should grab that."

So I did.

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5046-826/Titan-Stormproof-Match-Kit

So far it has kept the matches clean and dry, but considering that it hasn't been outside the house since I brought it home, that doesn't seem like a major accomplishment.   ::)

We'll see what it's like this year in the kayak.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on March 06, 2017, 07:57:41 PM
The Titan matchsafe with fancypants matches is nice...but what are you going to carry your Redbirds in for general lighting?  :D

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 07, 2017, 12:14:29 AM
Where I usually carry them... in my bloomers....  :ahhh

I guess I will just keep carrying the Redbirds in my cooking kit with my pots and pans.  I will probably pick up one of the travel bottles like you suggested sooner or later- they just weren't directly in front of me the other day!  :D

Do you have any suggestions on strike anywhere matches?  I can't seem to locate any and Megan insists on them after a set of fancy matches didn't work on an overnght camping trip she went on a couple of years ago.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on March 07, 2017, 12:21:13 AM
I thought Redbirds had a good reputation? UCO strike anywheres are supposed to be good if you can get them..I have not tried them myself.

I will use pretty much any match that comes to hand...including paper book matches.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 07, 2017, 12:38:33 AM
So would I, but the park rangers gave Megan strike anywhere matches after hers failed and now she's of the mind that they are the only things good enough.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on March 07, 2017, 01:11:57 AM
I bet they were Redbird matches...that seems to be the brand up there - http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/redbird-matches-250-pk-0761902p.html
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 07, 2017, 02:37:51 AM
Redbird does seem to be the brand I get and see the most, but they aren't a strike anywhere match.

I see so few of them these days, I am starting to wonder if perhaps they were outlawed for some reason.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on March 07, 2017, 03:27:53 AM
Redbird does seem to be the brand I get and see the most, but they aren't a strike anywhere match.

I see so few of them these days, I am starting to wonder if perhaps they were outlawed for some reason.

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Strike anywhere matches are harder to find here as well :think: Wonder why :shrug: Could they be more expensive to produce and they may get the same price as the strike on box matches :think: ???

I still love the strike anywhere's though :dd: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: smiller43147 on March 07, 2017, 04:11:00 AM
Redbird does seem to be the brand I get and see the most, but they aren't a strike anywhere match.

I see so few of them these days, I am starting to wonder if perhaps they were outlawed for some reason.

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Strike anywhere matches are harder to find here as well :think: Wonder why :shrug: Could they be more expensive to produce and they may get the same price as the strike on box matches :think: ???

I still love the strike anywhere's though :dd: :D

It's a "safety" thing.  Less likely to get lit accidentally.  They must be the same cost to make, they just put half the chemicals on the "sandpaper" instead of putting them on the match head.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 07, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
That's kind of what I figured it must be.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on March 07, 2017, 04:29:07 PM
I initially heard that it was because they were used for Meth production...actually it is the red phosphorus on the striker strip, so that was partly untrue because it could be scraped of from book matches.

I think it is actually because the hazardous material classification for them changed and fewer stores are willing to stock them. Around here I can only find Diamond brand SA's in a local builder's supply chain...in the past you could find them in any grocery or drug store.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9271990.htm
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 07, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
Sill6 liability law....

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: jcs0001 on March 09, 2017, 02:15:00 AM
I've been carrying the Redbird Strike anywhere matches - same as the ones shown by Grant.  They are definitely strike anywhere - I just tried them.  I bought a couple of boxes two or three years ago and as I recall they were available in the larger grocery stores and hardware stores. (Western Canada).

I also bought a waterproof case with uco matches - they are very impressive.  The ones I have aren't strike anywhere so one needs the strip they come with for lighting.

I have a couple of these with strike anywhere matches:
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/0199-158/Match-Case

Also have one of these:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=65241&cat=2,40725,45454
The strike anywhere matches don't work that well on the rough area in my experience.

I also carry one or two cheap lighters just in case.

Using the small nalgene bottles for match holders is an excellent idea.

John.

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 09, 2017, 02:27:44 AM
Thanks for the input John.  I guess I'll let her look for whatever matches she wants and have mine handy just in case she comes up short. 

Harder to be blamed that way.....

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on March 09, 2017, 03:19:42 AM
Tread tape...aka skateboard tape...aka wing walk tape...works fairly well as a match strike surface. It's waterproof, tough and the adhesive holds well.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 16, 2019, 01:22:24 AM
Bringing this thread back because I was wanting to know if anyone has had any experience with the Zippo Typoon Matches :think: I have some storm proof matches that are really good from UCO but the ones from Zippo look like tiny torches instead of matches :ahhh :D

With several new members since this last post before this one :D what types of matches do you guys use :cheers: does anyone use waterproof matches, strike anywhere and any other types of matches :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on January 16, 2019, 02:26:42 PM
I grew up with Swan Vesta's, far more popular than Cook's as they were strike anywhere. I'm a fan now of the UCO Stormproof matches. :)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 16, 2019, 06:43:14 PM
Earlier in the thread I remember Spork also speaking highly of the Swan Vesta brand :tu: dont think I have heard of the Cook's brand or seen pics of those either :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 16, 2019, 09:56:45 PM
When I use matches I generally use Diamond safety kitchen matches because the strike anywheres you can get around here are junk and the Swan Vestas or Three Stars matches are a bit pricey for me.
That said, I usually reach for a lighter. A Bic is reliable in a kit for more uses than a comparably sized stash of susceptible to soaking matches, and a Zippo lights my pipe in the wind with a minimum of muss or fuss. Matches are a luxury usually saved for those rare occasions that I find myself in a tobacconist's lounge with no wind to blow my match out and an ashtray close to hand in which I may safely toss my partially burnt match splints.

Even then, I usually use a Zippo simply because I usually have one on me, where I don't typically carry matches.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 12:47:03 AM
I know some pipe users who say they won't use Zippos because of the lighter fluid flavor it gives the tobacco :think: what is your take on that :cheers: I personally don't think it would affect it but I have never smoked a pipe  :D

Also what Zippo or Zippos do you have :D I have a few myself just because I like fire ::) :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 17, 2019, 01:48:08 AM
I know some pipe users who say they won't use Zippos because of the lighter fluid flavor it gives the tobacco :think: what is your take on that :cheers: I personally don't think it would affect it but I have never smoked a pipe  :D

Also what Zippo or Zippos do you have :D I have a few myself just because I like fire ::) :D
You can taste the fluid for the first couple puffs, but it doesn't taint the whole bowl, and it's no worse than the flavor of butane (which I can taste, those who claim they can't be darned). I don't mind having to deal with a slight fluid taste for a few draws in exchange with actually being able to light my pipe outdoors without having to fight to keep the flame going in a stiff breeze like I do with matches or most (soft flame, no torches on nice pipes) butane lighters. Others differ, and that's fine. Different strokes for different folks.

I have a small collection of Zippos, the one I carry most is nothing even a wee bit special, a bone stock 1941 replica in brushed chrome. Love the way it feels in my hands.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 02:40:18 AM
The look of the 41 is very nice and retro 8) if you have some time a nice pic of it would be great :cheers:

Yes, I would say butane has a weird odor type taste :ahhh lighter fluid has a much better smell to me than it so I would be more inclined to agree with you on that point  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 17, 2019, 04:00:23 AM
The look of the 41 is very nice and retro 8) if you have some time a nice pic of it would be great :cheers:

Yes, I would say butane has a weird odor type taste :ahhh lighter fluid has a much better smell to me than it so I would be more inclined to agree with you on that point  :tu:
It isn't much of a pic, but here it is with a Piranha P1 and Vic Pioneer, my EDC for the day the pic was taken.

Not used to posting pix, to be frank. I don't see most my gear as picworthy. It's usually simple, functional, well-used and beaten up gear, nothing special.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/6bc18508d160930f4683e57b3f70332c.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 05:00:33 AM
Used gear is the best kind of gear and makes great pics :salute: :like: Thanks for the pic :tu: that Zippo is so nice :dd: love the shape of the oldies and the replicas of them :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 06:25:58 AM
I dont recall what brand storm matches these are but they are pretty darn good.  I like to keep the "tinder quick" fire things just to be extra certain I'll have a fire when or if I need one.  The metal container is something I found and is perfectly water proof.  The plastic container is an asprin container.  I'm not so sure its completely water tight. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 12:02:28 PM
Those look like the UCO brand ones like those that I have :tu: They really are great matches aren't they :dd: I have been looking for a metal match safe like that one and think I may pull the trigger on one :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on January 17, 2019, 01:56:57 PM
I know some pipe users who say they won't use Zippos because of the lighter fluid flavor it gives the tobacco :think: what is your take on that :cheers: I personally don't think it would affect it but I have never smoked a pipe  :D

Also what Zippo or Zippos do you have :D I have a few myself just because I like fire ::) :D

Yeah ish but in the real world, leave it to burn a second and just use it. I've tried lighting a pipe with a UCO Stormproof match and boy was that nasty!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 02:36:28 PM
I know some pipe users who say they won't use Zippos because of the lighter fluid flavor it gives the tobacco :think: what is your take on that :cheers: I personally don't think it would affect it but I have never smoked a pipe  :D

Also what Zippo or Zippos do you have :D I have a few myself just because I like fire ::) :D

Yeah ish but in the real world, leave it to burn a second and just use it. I've tried lighting a pipe with a UCO Stormproof match and boy was that nasty!

The UCO's burn a bit different than a regular match, so I can imagine :ahhh :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on January 17, 2019, 02:43:31 PM
I know some pipe users who say they won't use Zippos because of the lighter fluid flavor it gives the tobacco :think: what is your take on that :cheers: I personally don't think it would affect it but I have never smoked a pipe  :D

Also what Zippo or Zippos do you have :D I have a few myself just because I like fire ::) :D

Yeah ish but in the real world, leave it to burn a second and just use it. I've tried lighting a pipe with a UCO Stormproof match and boy was that nasty!

The UCO's burn a bit different than a regular match, so I can imagine :ahhh :D

It's the gases it releases. They are nasty and stick in the tobacco all the way through the pipe.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 17, 2019, 04:22:56 PM
If you have some cash to splash and want a fancy metal match safe, K&M makes a really nice one. I want one, but I use matches so rarely that it's not worth spending the money on it.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 04:29:01 PM
If you have some cash to splash and want a fancy metal match safe, K&M makes a really nice one. I want one, but I use matches so rarely that it's not worth spending the money on it.

Fancy.  If you used toothpicks maybe it can serve a dull purpose.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 17, 2019, 04:29:47 PM
If you have some cash to splash and want a fancy metal match safe, K&M makes a really nice one. I want one, but I use matches so rarely that it's not worth spending the money on it.

Fancy.  If you used toothpicks maybe it can serve a dull purpose.   :dunno:
I've got a titanium toothpick on my keys, so thats out too... maybe i need to downgrade so i have an excuse for the match safe.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 04:40:17 PM
Maybe this will provide some more thoughts  :dunno:
Show content
https://youtu.be/V85s3pISxEc
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
That looks so very nice :dd: but after watching the video I am not as excited about getting one ::) he made several points that made this a no go for me as well :facepalm: but I have a toothpick holder on it's way to me and if I like it and it is big enough I may very well get another one for matches  :cheers: if not I may end up with the old metal Marbles type that all seem to have made in Hong Kong on them :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 05:27:47 PM
A non screw cap would be a deal breaker for me.  The plastic one I showed is one I keep in a zip lock bag.  The metal one I dont.  I submerged it in water for a few hours and it remained dry inside.  I did add some epoxy to the screws at the top just to be certain.  I wouldn't trust the plastic one but the metal one I have no doubts on. 

A long enough toothpick holder can do the job.  If a little of the wooded stick needed to be trimmed I dont have a problem with that.  Its not like I'm going to be holding the match the whole time.  I also add the tinder that is a great help when you have marginal tinder.  The match and tinder go up like crazy. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 17, 2019, 05:53:25 PM
For outdoor use, UCO is king

I’ll always try a cheap BIC first, but those stormproof matches are a miracle :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 06:13:22 PM
We lit the match and dunked in a glass of water, it lit right back up.  We were  :o when it did.  I thought it was hype but nope.  Lighter is always go to but these have a place IMO.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 17, 2019, 06:21:47 PM
The question is can you kill the flame?
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Greg Jones on January 17, 2019, 06:56:21 PM
Nothing to add except I use the Redbird too, they're available around here everywhere basic camping supplies are sold, I keep them stored in this waterproof container, and although they claim strike anywhere its not always true, so I cut a strip of the striker off the box and keep it in the container, the container is either a Coleman or coughlans and is also available everywhere around here

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 06:59:43 PM
I have that orange container too  :tu:.  Its tucked away in my camping gear currently in the shed.  Nice little match case. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 08:51:13 PM

I like a few different types but my favorite two are probably the UCO Stormproof matches (just cause they are so cool  8) :D )  and the Strike Anywhere ones from Diamond :dd:


I really like the UCO's. I have some Diamond strike-anywhere matches stashed away, too. However, I don't think the newer Diamonds are as good as the old ones.

Lately, I've been carrying a book of paper matches.

(https://i.imgur.com/VnFOXGf.jpg)


These are out of a US MRE pack.

I used to be a wooden match fan, but I've come to appreciate some of the advantages of paper matches: I like that they are easy to pack and carry and they are less prone to breakage.

When my hands get cold, really cold, my fingers don't work as well. So, it may be easy to snap a wooden match. That's a non-issue with paper matches. I don't think paper matches burn quite as hot as wooden matches, but I've never had a problem getting a fire going with the paper variety either.

I don't think there is an advantage one way or another here, but it's easy to securely grab a paper match with forceps or pliers (multitool) to reach the match into a small space or recessed spot, if they seem a bit short.

Having said all that, it's hard to beat the fierce and sustained flame of a hurricane or stormproof match.  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 09:51:14 PM
The question is can you kill the flame?

I haven't tried burying them but water sure doesn't kill it :ahhh perhaps baking soda or some type of chemical could :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 09:52:03 PM
Great pic Greg :tu: I have a similar match case but it is dark green :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 09:56:11 PM
Those paper matches are great, Nix :cheers: I use to play with them when I was younger ::) my Granny always had them handy as she was a smoker and she would let play with them :D her mother was also the first person to trust me enough to give me a lighter :o :D I think I have a pack or Two of them kicking around somewhere as well but it has been a while since I have seen them :ahhh need to look for them and see if they will still light :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
When I was kiddo, one could pick of free books of paper matches everywhere. I don't see them very often now, but Diamond does make some paper matches from recycled paper.   :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 17, 2019, 11:14:29 PM
When I was kiddo, one could pick of free books of paper matches everywhere. I don't see them very often now, but Diamond does make some paper matches from recycled paper.   :tu:

We were just talking about that.  Everyone had matches with their company name on them.  We used to pick them up often. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 11:26:42 PM
I remember getting many free when I was younger :cheers: as was said you could get them everywhere and they had all types of advertisements on them :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 17, 2019, 11:31:50 PM
Some of those ads were fun.

You could often pick up a pack or two at restaurants. Sometimes the hardware store.

I guess that was more common back when people used to smoke more......
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 17, 2019, 11:52:08 PM
Yes,and after they made it illegal to smoke inside of establishments guess it sorta died out :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 18, 2019, 12:36:13 AM
I've known of a couple of tobacconists that still offer free matches with a purchase. Been to one of them, stupidly said "oh ive got a lighter" instead of just taking the free firestarters.
It's usually the nicer places, not the discount cigarette and dip joints, that have matches available. Especially if they have a focus on pipes- there are a LOT of pipe smokers that absolutely refuse to light their tobacco with anything but an old fashioned wooden match or a cedar splint/spill. Some cigar smokers are the same way, but fewer than pipers.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 01:24:31 AM
Ok, I am not a pipe smoker so what is a cedar splint/spill :think: I think I have an idea but not positive on that one :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 01:29:58 AM
Ok, I am not a pipe smoker so what is a cedar splint/spill :think: I think I have an idea but not positive on that one :D

Sounds good!

I messed around with a pipe for a little while, always used a wooden match. Never tried a cedar splint....because I hadn't encountered the idea.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 18, 2019, 02:38:17 AM
A cedar splint is just a thin piece of Spanish cedar wood that you light with another source of flame in order to then light your tobacco. Think a longer matchstick made of cedar. A spill is basically the same thing, but instead of a long matchstick, it's like a narrow piece of cedar veneer about 5 inches long by around half an inch to an inch wide. The idea is that you light the tobacco with something that has zero chemicals, hydrocarbons, or really anything but wood, so it will produce a "purer" or "cleaner" flame that imparts no unpleasant flavors to your tobacco, just a slight and pleasant flavor of aromatic cedar. It's more common for cigar smokers than pipers- those who smoke a pipe are much more likely to use matches instead of cedar, even the "purists"- but some pipers do choose to use them. They aren't all that common with cigar smokers either, for that matter. Most use a butane torch for cigars.

I am not one of those that use cedar splints or spills- i don't see the point when I don't mind the flavor of a Zippo light.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 02:48:42 AM
I'm not sure what matches these are--probably Diamond strike anywhere--but this is my favorite match safe:

(https://i.imgur.com/S6dR0AE.jpg)



It's brass with a black coating, the top screws down tight with an o-ring seal. It holds 20 matches. It's effectively crush proof and weather proof. I've submerged it in a bowl of water overnight with no evidence of leaking. I don't use integral button compass, but it's nice to have it as a back-up. The lanyard is useful when using the compass and cinches down to prevent the loss of the cap. The underside of the cap is rough enough to use as a striker for 'strike anywhere' matches.

The major drawback to this safe is its weight. Solid brass doesn't come without a weight cost. Plastic match safes are lighter and probably just as strong, but there is something I find reassuring about this brass thing.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 02:58:45 AM
Thanks for the explanation otherguy :salute: Sorta what I thought but best to make sure :cheers: :tu:

That is a beauty of a match safe there, Nix :dd: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 03:05:30 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 03:10:14 AM
With so much talk of matches I went and bought the big orange UCO match safe this evening :facepalm: :D also I had been thinking of matches prior to restating this thread and I had a few boxes of waterproof Coghlans delivered in my mailbox this evening as well ::) :D Also dug out the dark green plastic match safe I have had for years that I got at an Army surplus store and it is full of the green tipped strike anywhere Diamonds :tu: I have misplaced my big box of strike anywhere's kitchen matches though :ahhh I need to look in a couple other places and I am sure I will find them :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 03:11:29 AM
 :tu:

You are sounding well supplied!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 03:19:34 AM
I am for sure now :D I found the strike anywheres :cheers: They were out in the garage in my garden seeds cabinet :cheers: I also found an old box of Diamond red tipped Strike anywheres :like: Tomorrow evening I may have to stand out on the porch and light a few matches :rofl: I would light a fire but it has been raining here for 14 or 16 hours straight and everything is to wet >:( ;) Looking forward to Spring and setting a good fire :dd: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 04:45:12 AM
Rumaged around in my camping gear to find some old favorites:

(https://i.imgur.com/KWm3Ge0.jpg)

Top to bottom:

Coghlan's Wind and Waterproof matches. These work very well, and I like the small box for packing in backpacking gear, typically in a ziplock bag.

Davis Instruments Hurricane Match. I forgot I had these not sure how they worked, but obviously I kept some. I'm not sure these are made any longer........

Diamond Strike Anywhere matches. Put these in for comparison.

REI Stormproof matches. These are really good. They look and act exactly like the UCO matches, and I bet they are made by UCO. I usually refill my UCO match safe with these.

It's snowing fairly heavily out at the moment. I went outside and fired off an REI Stormproof just for fun. Big flakes were falling and landing on the match, but to no real effect. The match just burnt like a road flare.  :tu:

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: CallsignBadger on January 18, 2019, 04:50:44 AM
As far as match safes go, I just use those cheapo orange ones with the rubber o ring :tu:

For UCO matches, I trim the stick a little to fit them in

And I’ll cut out strikers from matchboxes to put in the containers.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 05:04:16 AM
A few more match safes:

(https://i.imgur.com/B7Jmbjg.jpg)


Top row, left to right:

This small stainless steel match safe is interesting in that the cap unscrews, but is attached at the bottom so it can't be lost. I find it a bit awkward to use. I stuff a bit of cotton in the lid to keep the matches from shaking around. There is a rubber gasket in the lid, but I'm never sure this match safe is really waterproof. Still, it works and the knurled surface is great for striking 'strike anywhere' matches.

This brass safe is similar to the one I posted above. It does not screw down, but depends on a set of double o-rings to keep the lid on and water out. The lanyard also keeps the top locked down if it's cinched up. Unfortunately the compass in the top is 180º out of true. I don't know how this happened. Because of the messed up compass, this match safe is just a relic.

The bright green match safe is the same idea, but made of aluminum. Lighter than the brass versions which is excellent. This one has a Suunto compass in the top, but it has developed a medium sized bubble. The compass still points North reliably, but the bubble makes me doubt it's accuracy a bit. Still, a nice match safe.

Bottom row:

Orange UCO match safe. Big safe, but you get quite a few stormproof matches. The lid on this one is cracked, though.... (see below for details).

Orange plastic match safe. Simple and reliable. An o-ring keeps it waterproof. Hard to beat this light weight safe.

OD plastic (Army surplus?). Same as the orange one next to it. This has the advantage of have a tethered lid. I carried this one in a small emergency kit during hunting season.


UCO safe fail:

The UCO safe has developed a nasty crack. I'm not sure how. Possibly some idiot over-torqued the lid, but since I'm the only one who has used this match safe, that doesn't seem likely.   :facepalm:

(https://i.imgur.com/qdPfyiq.jpg)


The safe still hold matches and a spare striker pad.....but it is no longer waterproof.  So, for you guys who like UCO matches, be careful with the match safe. Or use REI matches in a box and just keep the box in a plastic bag.  You have been warned.     :police:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 18, 2019, 07:21:49 AM
What a great group of safes Nix.  Thanks for the warning about over tightening the orange safes cap.  I've been known to over torque things  :whistle:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 12:06:45 PM
Great pics, Nix :like: The matches are nice and love the boxes that they are in :tu: the match safes are great as well :dd: the dark green one I have is similar to the orange one beside the UCO one :salute: Also I will need to go home and loosen my UCO one :ahhh I overtighten a few things as well ::) :facepalm:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 12:07:26 PM
As far as match safes go, I just use those cheapo orange ones with the rubber o ring :tu:

For UCO matches, I trim the stick a little to fit them in

And I’ll cut out strikers from matchboxes to put in the containers.

I have trimmed matches and cut strikers off as well :cheers: it is a great tip too :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Greg Jones on January 18, 2019, 01:49:15 PM
Such an interesting thread, for such a basic item
 :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 02:16:54 PM
Such an interesting thread, for such a basic item
 :tu:

Better than I had hoped for when I first started it :tu:

Still no one seems to have used the Zippo Typoon Matches :dunno: I guess I will have to be the brave soul to buy them and try them maybe  :salute: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 03:47:58 PM
For those that haven't seen the Zippo matches :cheers:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1295/7985/products/40483_Front_1024x1024.jpg?v=1534176107)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 03:49:38 PM
They are longer than the UCO storm proof matches as well :cheers: I have seen these in person (they are like small torches) and almost bought them then  :salute: wished I had now :facepalm: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 18, 2019, 04:06:08 PM
I can't imagine those Zippo matches being much different?  They certainly look cool and the water proof case is nice addition.  I'm off to look at a head to head comparison of those and UCO.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 18, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
Not sure theres a HUGE difference.
https://youtu.be/nEdy92dE9Uw
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 04:22:40 PM
Thanks for ther video,  Aloha :salute: I may have just been amazed that Zippo had matches like that and was enamored to much to notice that the size difference wasn't as much as I thought  :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 18, 2019, 04:24:29 PM
Seems like a good size safe though.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 18, 2019, 04:52:42 PM
AS TESTED the UCOs seemed to be a bit "better". 

The Zippo case is nice.  Easy work around for the exterior striker on the UCO case.  What I think I am seeing is the Zippo match has a longer area of material to burn while the UCO has thicker material.   :dunno:.  I think either will do well for what they are.  A little shake of the match when submerged introduces some oxygen and the match relights.   Instead of submerge, remove,  and wait for the match to relight.  Simple adjustment on using and the Zippos appear to be a nice match.

I do like the Zippo match safe.   

https://youtu.be/81WoSMsZPzs
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 18, 2019, 08:31:47 PM
Really great video, Aloha :tu: That one was a good head to head of the two :like: I have several of the UCO and may take a bit more time looking for a good deal on some Zippo ones now :cheers: I will still get them because I really do like the match safe but now I am thinking I already have the better matches with me :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 18, 2019, 08:40:51 PM
Really great video, Aloha :tu: That one was a good head to head of the two :like: I have several of the UCO and may take a bit more time looking for a good deal on some Zippo ones now :cheers: I will still get them because I really do like the match safe but now I am thinking I already have the better matches with me :D


 :iagree:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 12:23:25 AM
Decided to take a few pics myself :cheers: First the matches and the respective boxes :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/czGaYXKh.jpg)

From top to bottom, the first is Coghlan Waterproof safety matches, next small red tipped Diamond Strike Anywhere matches, next to that is the UCO Stormproof matches, then the green tipped kitchen sized Diamond Strike Anywhere matches and lastly the red tipped kitchen sized Diamond Strike Anywhere matches :cheers:

Then here is just the matches side by side UCO Stromproof on top followed by the green and red tipped Diamond Strike Anywhere kitchen matches, then theCoghlan Waterproof matches and at the bottom the Diamond red tipped Strike Anywhere matches :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/lBb6gTuh.jpg)

Then finally a pic of the 2 match safes that I have :cheers: The orange one is a UCO one with Stormproof matches and strikers inside , plus a bit of cotton :tu: the green one is one I picked up many years ago and it has the green tipped kitchen Diamond Strike anywheres :cheers:

(https://i.imgur.com/2iuOf3Sh.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 19, 2019, 01:07:51 AM
Great post, Poncho.   :like:

I've been thinking since you started this thread. The humble match we now take for granted must have transformed fire making when it was developed in the 1800's.  Before that most methods were tedious and somewhat unreliable. Then along came the match.

While matches must have seemed nearly magical, it's interesting to note that in the 1908 version of Jack London's "To Build a Fire", the main character perishes despite having matches. He fails to take advantage of this precious resource, squandering his pack of matches in a last desperate...and failed...attempt to get his fire going.

(https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/5/162247/4774155/LAFfinal5.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 02:05:37 AM
Matches were a game changer for sure :salute: that is a bit grimmer for the main character in that story :o but that is the reality of bad preparation or just plain old bad luck :-\ this thread has went in a good direction though and I am glad I revived it :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 05:57:13 PM
AS TESTED the UCOs seemed to be a bit "better". 

The Zippo case is nice.  Easy work around for the exterior striker on the UCO case.  What I think I am seeing is the Zippo match has a longer area of material to burn while the UCO has thicker material.   :dunno:.  I think either will do well for what they are.  A little shake of the match when submerged introduces some oxygen and the match relights.   Instead of submerge, remove,  and wait for the match to relight.  Simple adjustment on using and the Zippos appear to be a nice match.

I do like the Zippo match safe.   

https://youtu.be/81WoSMsZPzs

I think I just figured out that the head to head on these matches is the GIANT UCO stromproof matches vs. the Zippo Typhoon matches :ahhh That us a big differences to me because I have the regular sized stormproof ones and now I think I need to get both the giant UCO ones and the Zippo ones :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 19, 2019, 06:01:17 PM
Well y'all have me thinking I need to use matches more often and upgrade from my cheapy Army surplus green plastic safe I keep in my bag. Does anyone currently participating in this thread happen to have an Exotac Matchcap? If yes, any thoughts on it? If no, I suppose I'll just have to pick one up so I can be a guinea pig for the forum friends... :twak:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on January 19, 2019, 06:02:14 PM
That's a good point Poncho, there are two sized of UCO matches. What I do wish with the UCO is that the wood handle would catch fire once the 'head' has burnt down like a regular match does.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
Here is the video that made me remember that they made the giant ones :ahhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSUCqf1M6Ls
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:04:30 PM
That's a good point Poncho, there are two sized of UCO matches. What I do wish with the UCO is that the wood handle would catch fire once the 'head' has burnt down like a regular match does.

I know what you mean :salute: Regular matches will burn til all the wood is gone :cheers: I don't know why this wood doesn't burn all the way out though ???
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:05:31 PM
Well y'all have me thinking I need to use matches more often and upgrade from my cheapy Army surplus green plastic safe I keep in my bag. Does anyone currently participating in this thread happen to have an Exotac Matchcap? If yes, any thoughts on it? If no, I suppose I'll just have to pick one up so I can be a guinea pig for the forum friends... :twak:


I don't have one ::) but if you want to buy one please do as I have wondered about those as well :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:06:50 PM
Other video just above was the wrong one but still a cool video :facepalm: :D Here is the right one :salute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhWGqzIl9aI
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 19, 2019, 06:08:06 PM
Hum... i do happen to have a $5 amazon credit from bing rewards I've got no plans for... and i just sold a knife i got as a gift a couple years back and never used...

Let's see if i can enable myself enough to pull the trigger on one. Basically already there, but can't decide between the gunmetal and orange variants.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:15:59 PM
Hum... i do happen to have a $5 amazon credit from bing rewards I've got no plans for... and i just sold a knife i got as a gift a couple years back and never used...

Let's see if i can enable myself enough to pull the trigger on one. Basically already there, but can't decide between the gunmetal and orange variants.

I do :like: the orange for fire starting stuff but the gun metal is sure nice :dd: Either way :popcorn: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:17:06 PM
A very cool little gadget here :o an LED light that is a match safe :ahhh Plus it has the UCO Stormproof matches :like:

https://www.ucogear.com/firefly-match-case-flashlight-mt--e--firefly
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 19, 2019, 06:18:30 PM
Hum... i do happen to have a $5 amazon credit from bing rewards I've got no plans for... and i just sold a knife i got as a gift a couple years back and never used...

Let's see if i can enable myself enough to pull the trigger on one. Basically already there, but can't decide between the gunmetal and orange variants.

I do :like: the orange for fire starting stuff but the gun metal is sure nice :dd: Either way :popcorn: :D
Orange is a big plus for visibility in the boonies but gunmetal fits my usual style a bit better, so it's six of one and half a dozen of the other at this point.

Who knows, if I get one and end up liking it as much as I think I will, I might just end up with both of them...
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 06:19:17 PM
I didn't know UCO had so much different fire starting things :ahhh

https://www.ucogear.com/firestarters/
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 19, 2019, 06:46:54 PM
Here's the little bottle I carry - Coghlan's Waterproof/Windproof Storm Matches (made in UK). Nice and compact. Strikers on both ends.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 07:52:31 PM
I have heard good things about those :cheers: they have been around several years, correct?  :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 19, 2019, 07:57:37 PM
Yes, I've had a stash of them for a few years. Popular in the camping shops in South Africa. Nice and compact  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 19, 2019, 08:56:00 PM
Here's the little bottle I carry - Coghlan's Waterproof/Windproof Storm Matches (made in UK). Nice and compact. Strikers on both ends.
Those look almost identical to the "Royal Navy surplus" UK-made lifeboat survival kit matches I used to see all over the place, plus the Coghlan branding. Maybe they're made by the same contractor. Neat!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 09:13:18 PM
Here's the little bottle I carry - Coghlan's Waterproof/Windproof Storm Matches (made in UK). Nice and compact. Strikers on both ends.
Those look almost identical to the "Royal Navy surplus" UK-made lifeboat survival kit matches I used to see all over the place, plus the Coghlan branding. Maybe they're made by the same contractor. Neat!

Both being from the UK, I would say it is very likely they are made at the same place :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 19, 2019, 09:21:57 PM
Well darn you all, I've got a brand new box of matches sitting on my desk and have a gunmetal Matchcap on the way :tu: :ahhh
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 19, 2019, 10:03:26 PM
 :rofl:

Our work here is done......  >:D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 19, 2019, 11:21:20 PM
:rofl:

Our work here is done......  >:D

 :iagree:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 12:18:53 AM
I have a few goodies on the way ::) :D One of them that I am really excited about is the UCO Firefly match safe/LED flashlight :like: I hope that it is made well and works well :cheers: We shall see ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 21, 2019, 07:33:18 AM
Create light and heat. Two essentials. Show us when it arrives Poncho65.  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 12:04:31 PM
I will put some pics up for sure :tu: and put my thoughts of it in here as well :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 21, 2019, 03:32:35 PM
I am glad that this thread got bumped as I have a few things to add to it.  First off, some of Spork's favorites:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Coughlans%20Waterproof%20%281%29.jpg?m=1548079541)

Over the summer I bought a used kayak and it included some extras, like a paddle and dry bag.  The paddle was donated to my nephews' use as they are hard on things and I don't like aluminum shafted paddles, and inside the dry bag was this brand new pack of Coughlin's waterproof matches, or "greenies." :D

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Coughlans%20Waterproof%20%282%29.jpg?m=1548079541)

I haven't used any of them yet, although I did notice there are a few doubles in there, so there may be about 5% fewer matches in there than expected!  Still, the pack seems as full as a pack can get, so I'm happy, especially since they were an added bonus I wasn't expecting.

Next up are some of my regular matches from Redbird.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Redbird%20Pill%20Bottle%20%282%29.jpg?m=1548079542)

I keep them in an old prescription bottle with a spare striker from one of my UCO kits.  The setup isn't waterproof, and neither are the matches, but they keep dry enough inside the bottle, inside a pack.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Redbird%20Pill%20Bottle%20%281%29.jpg?m=1548079541)

They aren't anything special, they are just one of the most commonly available wood match brands here, and they are dirt cheap, so I can strike half of the pill bottle at once to get a decent flame if needed.  I think a box of 500 is something like $5, so pretty affordable.  (EDIT: The price has apparently gone up.... https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/redbird-matches-2-pk-0761902p.html#srp although I am certain they can be gotten cheaper elsewhere) I can replenish this pill bottle (or make many of them) or less than a bottle of Pepsi, so it makes sense to have them everywhere.  And, my parents have enough prescription bottles left over to feed an army.   :facepalm:

And speaking of my parents and armies....

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Canadian%20Military%20Issue%20%282%29.jpg?m=1548079537)

My father gave me this little gem the last time I visited him.  It is a Canadian Armed Forces issue match safe, complete with 50+ year old matches.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Canadian%20Military%20Issue%20%283%29.jpg?m=1548079537)

The case is thin aluminum with a screw on top, and I have no idea what the label used to say.  There's not enough of it let to guess. 

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Canadian%20Military%20Issue%20%284%29.jpg?m=1548079538)

It has five bags in it, one with strikers, three which have six matches in them, and one was opened and one match has been used.  The rest are all original- I think Dad found them to be a bit overkill for lighting cigarettes and put them away for when he needed them... then either never needed them, or didn't have them handy when he did! 

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Canadian%20Military%20Issue%20%285%29.jpg?m=1548079538)

They appear to be windproof matches, and possibly also waterproof, or at least may have been at one point.  They are similar to the modern UCO matches, only a lot smaller.  They are also over 50 years old, and I am not sure if that means they won't work, or if they will explode in a bit of a fireball.  One of these days I will get brave enough to try one!

Here's a comparison of all three:

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Comparison.jpg?m=1548079541)

One of these days I will toss the pill bottle in some water (after taking the matches out!) to see how waterproof it is.  I think it is only good for keeping rain or the occasional splash out, and so far that has been good enough.  I'd probably stick to the UCO ones for kayaking trips though.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 21, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
:rofl:

Our work here is done......  >:D

 :iagree:

 :rofl:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 21, 2019, 03:43:07 PM
Boss, those old matches are really neat.  They certainly look like the UCO matches albeit smaller.  The need for a wind/water proof match has been around for a while.  That match safe is really neat and more so that it was your dads.   I'd be inclined to light one match just to see how/if it would light.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 21, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
I fully intend to... I'm just not sure what would happen.  Do the chemicals degrade over time?  If so, do they get more or less flammable?  Is the wood so dry that it will burn super quick?

Could be fun....  :ahhh

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
Great pics Grant :like: I just bought some of the Coghlan waterproof matches but mine are red tipped :think: Does it mean they are older or newer :shrug: Still have yet to get any of the Red Bird matches :ahhh I still love the look of their boxes :dd: :like: and that old match safe and stormproof matches are excellent 8) I would have l already have lit one :pok: :D Even neater that it was your dads :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 21, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
I can't comment on a timeline of colors on the Coughlan's matches.  Maybe Spork will be able to shed some light on it. 

Another favorite is the Coghlan's Waterproof Safety matches in the wooden sleeve box. I call them "Greenies"...but the last pack I bought have brown heads, so I guess I'll have to start calling them "Brownies"  ::)

I like the Coleman Waterproof matches...the boxes they come in are made of a durable plastic coated cardboard.

That leads me to believe that the green ones predate the brown ones, but I am not sure where in the mix pink ones may be.

And yes, the plastic coated cardboard is very cool.  :D

Ponch- if you really like the Redbird box art I can send you a box if you like.  Probably just the box though, as I imagine the PO would be very upset at the idea of mailing matches....  :ahhh

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 21, 2019, 04:51:27 PM
Got some matches in the mail today, which will be tested next time I'm outvin the woods.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/f632a1ec7cff2513c4501d5c5a821a02.jpg)

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 04:54:36 PM
I appreciate the offer Grant :salute: but don't worry about it ;) not a big deal and it is cool enough to see the pics of the boxes on here 8) :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 21, 2019, 04:59:15 PM
I loved seeing that old Canadian forces match safe!   :tu:   :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 21, 2019, 05:48:17 PM
Grant, the vintage aluminum match tin is awesome! :ahhh

Match TIMEX is an interesting question. I am sure the chemicals would degrade and fail to light, rather than go in the opposite direction and become less stable and explode. Could not find anything definitive, but this short post here https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/quick-prepper-tip-playing-fire/ (https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/quick-prepper-tip-playing-fire/)

"...Although most boxes are not marked with an expiration date, matches do get old and can loose their ability to light. Good matches are bright red in color (think Santa’s suit) if the color is more along the lines of burgundy or dull red these are typically older matches. Matches do come in other colors but red is most common."

For lifespan, I found someone who said that he had "...matches from my parents' wedding that were still working after 55 years." https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/4wn3g4/how_long_do_bar_matches_fire_producing_ones_that/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/4wn3g4/how_long_do_bar_matches_fire_producing_ones_that/)

So Grant, you have to try one of those old matches and let us know - just have a fire extinguisher nearby  :D

Something fundamentally attractive about the simple match - great thread.  :cheers:

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 05:56:51 PM
Got some matches in the mail today, which will be tested next time I'm outvin the woods.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/f632a1ec7cff2513c4501d5c5a821a02.jpg)

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Let us know how they do :cheers: Cool art work on those and I have never seen that brand :tu: :like:

:nanadance:          :nanadance:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 06:00:00 PM
Great links and info,  Max :tu: :like: will have to give them a good read :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 21, 2019, 06:13:55 PM
Got some matches in the mail today, which will be tested next time I'm outvin the woods.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/f632a1ec7cff2513c4501d5c5a821a02.jpg)

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk

Let us know how they do :cheers: Cool art work on those and I have never seen that brand :tu: :like:

:nanadance:          :nanadance:

Yes Poncho, let us know how it goes with a hot redhead in the woods!  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 21, 2019, 07:08:17 PM
I stumbled over them on a auction site here and after following this thread, I just had to have them :like:
I'll let you know if they work as advertised :cheers:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 07:17:01 PM
Thanks :cheers:

 :popcorn: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 21, 2019, 07:17:49 PM
Got some matches in the mail today, which will be tested next time I'm outvin the woods.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190121/f632a1ec7cff2513c4501d5c5a821a02.jpg)

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk

Let us know how they do :cheers: Cool art work on those and I have never seen that brand :tu: :like:

:nanadance:          :nanadance:

Yes Poncho, let us know how it goes with a hot redhead in the woods!  :tu:

 ::) :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 21, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Fire extinguisher?   :think:

We've seen how virtually impossible it is to extinguish storm proof matches, I am not sure even this would help!   :ahhh

(https://postmediacalgaryherald2.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/water_bomber.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1)

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 21, 2019, 08:57:52 PM
Fire extinguisher?   :think:

We've seen how virtually impossible it is to extinguish storm proof matches, I am not sure even this would help!   :ahhh

(https://postmediacalgaryherald2.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/water_bomber.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1)

Def
The reasons I didn't light one at home when I got them :rofl:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 01:11:09 AM
Fire extinguisher?   :think:

We've seen how virtually impossible it is to extinguish storm proof matches, I am not sure even this would help!   :ahhh

(https://postmediacalgaryherald2.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/water_bomber.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=840&h=630&crop=1)

Def
The reasons I didn't light one at home when I got them :rofl:

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 :o

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 03:18:33 AM
Looking up matches on the internet and found this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match) on Wikipedia :cheers:

Pretty good read actually :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 03:36:06 AM
Earlier in this thread it was said that the Strike Anywhere Matches have been classified as hazardous goods and therefore can't be shipped as easily as safety or stormproof matches :facepalm: I have noticed that UCO also no longer makes a strike anywhere match :( I guess I will have to stick to getting Diamond ones if I need anymore ??? I only see them at one hardware store that I go to occasionally and haven't noticed if they still carry them or not :ahhh Sure hope they do and I may stop by in the next while to check to see if they have any of them in small boxes :cheers: If so I may buy a few more as these are getting progressively harder to find ::) :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 22, 2019, 06:52:50 AM
What a neat thread.  Glad it got bumped.  Redheads for matches is such a brilliant name. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 22, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Earlier in this thread it was said that the Strike Anywhere Matches have been classified as hazardous goods and therefore can't be shipped as easily as safety or stormproof matches :facepalm: I have noticed that UCO also no longer makes a strike anywhere match :( I guess I will have to stick to getting Diamond ones if I need anymore ??? I only see them at one hardware store that I go to occasionally and haven't noticed if they still carry them or not :ahhh Sure hope they do and I may stop by in the next while to check to see if they have any of them in small boxes :cheers: If so I may buy a few more as these are getting progressively harder to find ::) :D

Thanks for the link!  I actually had that page open yesterday to copy the description into the Match folder I created on the MTO Gallery, but didn't read any more than just the first paragraph that I stole!   :facepalm:

http://gallery.multitool.org/index.php/Fire/Matches

The rest of the page is well worth the read too.....

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 22, 2019, 12:19:31 PM
Looking up matches on the internet and found this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match) on Wikipedia :cheers:

Pretty good read actually :tu:

Great read...some real jewels:

“...This marvelous thing was formerly called a "light-bringing slave", but afterward when it became an article of commerce its name was changed to 'fire inch-stick'...”

and also that early matches were “...ignited by dipping its tip in a small asbestos bottle filled with sulfuric acid.”  :facepalm:

“...Lucifers could ignite explosively, sometimes throwing sparks a considerable distance...”  >:D

“...there was enough white phosphorus in one pack to kill a person. Deaths and suicides from eating the heads of matches became frequent.”  :o

The early matches were certainly hazardous. No wonder today’s versions are called ‘safety matches’  :)

Such a fascinating history for such a tiny marvel.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 12:34:15 PM
No problem guys :salute: I actually followed the WIkipedia link from an article I was reading that was pretty good but most of their info was from the link :D So instead of the article I just linked to the source :whistle: I never realized that matches had such a  controversial past though :ahhh and dangerous :o I hope everyone is enjoying this thread as much as I am :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 22, 2019, 05:21:31 PM
We have one major match manufacturer in South Africa called Lion Match. They make these monster matches for lighting your barbecue (we call it a “braai”).  :)

They’re over 2 inches long and impregnated with paraffin. Serious matches!  :ahhh

Love this thread!  :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 22, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
UCO has sweet fire product similar to those.
Show content
https://youtu.be/CRHsxylWdcI
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 22, 2019, 05:50:11 PM
Cool...! I mean hot  :ahhh

Love the triangular shape. I guess if King Kong smoked this is what he’d use  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 06:15:12 PM
Those are cool (guess I should mean hot as well :ahhh ) Max  :like: I have some of the sweet fires headed this way ::) and Diamond also has a similar product for lighting bbq's  :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 22, 2019, 06:32:00 PM
I like to use the Weber Chimney.  It has been my go to for years. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 22, 2019, 07:47:15 PM
Those are indeed very neat!

I had a similar idea a little while ago- I have two large dogs, and since I am a responsible adult (as far as my dogs are concerned anyway!) I pick up their poop.  In the center of these poop bag rolls is a small cardboard tube, and I end up with a lot of them in my pockets as I never seem to remember to throw them out.  One day I was looking at them and thinking that if I filled each one with a bit of paraffin and some dryer lint, and stuck a match in the end, I'd probably have a pretty darned good survival match.

Now that we are all talking about it, maybe I will have to look into it a bit more.  :D

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 22, 2019, 08:04:28 PM
Pics and more pics if you decide to make any :pok: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 22, 2019, 10:14:24 PM
Here are a couple of the poop bag cardboard rolls and the Redbird matches.  I can fit three matches inside the cardboard tube, which would really give it a heck of a kick off, although I am not sure how much paraffin and lint I'd get in there with three of them.  Maybe two would be enough?

Sounds like it may be time to start the Great Flaming Poop Bag Experiment of 2019!   :ahhh

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 22, 2019, 10:34:25 PM
Sounds like an excellent project Grant - let us know how it goes. You may need a way to store the incendiary to prevent the paraffin evaporating.  ???

Just make sure the used poop bags are well separated from the incendiaries when you test them  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 23, 2019, 12:26:07 AM
I didn't know paraffin evaporated?  My plan was to mix some paraffin and lint (or sawdust, or some combination of the two) together until it became a truly sticky, disgusting mess, then pour it into the tube and stick a couple of matches in before it solidified.  Then dip the head of the match in some paraffin for waterproofing and let the whole thing set.  I figure then when I need it I can just strike the match through the paraffin and the whole thing should burn for a while.

Of course, there's an awful lot in that plan that can go horribly wrong, so it should be interesting.  :D

Maybe small bubbles of diesel or something in the middle would keep things interesting!   >:D

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 23, 2019, 03:50:27 AM
Diesel >:D

Forget pics :D I want video if you try it :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 04:08:39 AM
I figure then when I need it I can just strike the match through the paraffin and the whole thing should burn for a while.


You will need to scrape the paraffin off, first. Otherwise the paraffin gums up the striker and/or prevents 'strike anywhere' from developing enough friction to ignite (before the head gets rubbed off).

Ask me how I know..... :-\
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 23, 2019, 05:22:26 AM
I didn't know paraffin evaporated?  ...

Only slowly at ambient temperatures, but if you leave your incendiaries in a hot car or back pack it will.

Definite +1 for video!  :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 05:27:52 AM
I was rummaging through some fishing gear and found these:

(https://i.imgur.com/hUFGsU3.jpg)
"Matches Waterproof, Safety Mk 2"


I guess I had these in some field kit at some point. They have to be at least 20 years old...25 years-old would be a better bet. The striker patches are mount on the exterior of the lid top and container base. You can see the cap is cracked, the label has peeled off, and the lid doesn't seal very well.

I took one out and fired it right up, one strike.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 23, 2019, 05:49:38 AM
NATO spec. Very nice  :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 23, 2019, 12:24:28 PM
NATO spec. Very nice  :like:

 :iagree: Exactly what I was thinking when I zoomed in on the pic and saw that :like: Glad to hear that they lit right up, Nix :tu: :like:

:nanadance:         :nanadance:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 07:42:56 PM
This thread prompted me to try something out that I’ve been putting off for a while.

Paper matches have many useful virtues, but they are prone to dampness and getting wet. I’ve had matches that were paraffin coated in order to improve their weather/climate resilience, but books of paper matches have become harder to find.

The exception being, Diamond’s green tipped paper matches.

So I thought I’d test out paraffin coating a book of green tip matches and reporting my findings here.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xpv6OgI.jpg)
Fresh book of Diamond Green tips. These have been stored in a cool dry place and kept in a zip top bag.


First thing: If the striker gets gummed up with paraffin, the matches won’t strike, so I covered the striker with gaffer tape to keep it paraffin-free.

(https://i.imgur.com/NF0kW5D.jpg)



Next I dunked the entire book of matches into melted paraffin:

(https://i.imgur.com/OGyHaBU.jpg)



The matches were left to dry.

(https://i.imgur.com/0IZrVR3.jpg)


Once the tape was removed, the striker looked good. I used the pen blade of my SAK to clean off as much paraffin as I could, and then attempted to fire up the green tip:

(https://i.imgur.com/k8cZc9L.jpg)



FAIL.

The match seemed to strike and fire, but then just smoldered. I suspected that some residual paraffin had melted and smothered the match.

So, I tried scraping the match head more thoroughly.

FAIL.

…..and another FAIL.

(https://i.imgur.com/92ML368.jpg)


Just to test the striker. I lit an uncoated match with the coated matchbook’s striker.

No problems (see match above, second from bottom).

I then tested a paraffin-coated red-tipped wooden match on the coated matchbook’s striker (after scraping the paraffin of the red tip).

It fired up, all be it with a slight sputter, initially (see bottom-most match in photo above).


So, for whatever reason, Diamond’s green-tip paper matches are not amenable to being paraffin coated in my opinion.

I labeled the MTo Hack #1 because I though I might try a separate ‘hack’ by just coating the match heads. However, since coating the green-tip match heads proved to be a disaster, I won’t be testing the green-tips further, aside from normal use.

I will say, as they come, green tips have worked well for me.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 23, 2019, 10:24:34 PM
Great test review Nix  :like:

How about using an alternative water-proofing material such as a silicone spray or even a non-stick cooking spray?
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 23, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
Based on these results, I suspect that a spray coating would similarly stifle the match's ability to burn. And might gum up the striker.  But....until it's tested, I suppose it's possible.

I have some PAM cooking spray, but that contains lecithin. Lecithin can act as an emulsifier and bind with water. With that in mind, I think Pam cooking spray would be a doubtful choice. I don't know if other cooking sprays might have similar issues.

I don't think I have any silicone spray. That might be worth testing.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 23, 2019, 11:55:25 PM
Great test, Nix :like: and to bad it failed :( but we learned that it doesn't work so that is good :tu: silicon spray might work and I will see if I can think of any other type of coating that might make them waterproof :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 04:24:03 AM
This guy makes Strike Anywhere and waterproof matches :cheers: He uses kid cap gun disks and a MT (yes a MT :D ) to make them Strike Anywhere and then dips them in wax to make them waterproof :like: Just be careful not to pop the caps while gathering material though :whistle: :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp89uu-oNeA

Props to him for using a MT to help in making these :salute: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 24, 2019, 05:25:49 AM
That’s a great idea to make your own matches.  :like:

Double-points for MT use.  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 24, 2019, 03:38:33 PM
I have to wonder if caps are not harder to find these days than matches?   :think:

Also, you'd get a decent spark from a cap itself, why not just try lighting tinder with a cap?

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 03:41:27 PM
 :dunno: maybe cause strike anywhere matches are cooler  8) :D

I actually saw cap disks like that ther other day at a store so hoping they still have them :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 24, 2019, 04:46:20 PM

Also, you'd get a decent spark from a cap itself, why not just try lighting tinder with a cap?

Def



 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 05:46:22 PM
Beeswax might be good  :dunno:. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 06:15:19 PM
Beeswax might be good  :dunno:.

 :iagree:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 06:18:54 PM
Nail polish?
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 08:41:31 PM
Nail polish?

You referring to what the guy in the video said or are you trying to think of ideas for Nix :think:

Either way I don't know :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 09:11:07 PM
Painting on some nail polish to the match so water doesnt wick its way up and it'll coat the match head and its flammable  :think: so.. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:17:29 PM
Sounds good by the Misses might not like me getting into her polish :ahhh :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:17:50 PM
Misses Might :salute:

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 09:23:12 PM
Tell her you are showing your child an experiment.  Its "school" related? 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 24, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
You need to stand up and be a man.







Get our own nail polish.....  :D

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 09:25:53 PM
You need to stand up and be a man.







Get our own nail polish.....  :D

Def

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:26:03 PM
Tell her you are showing your child an experiment.  Its "school" related?

She would be more mad than her momma :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:26:46 PM
You need to stand up and be a man.







Get our own nail polish.....  :D

Def

Ok.......what color do you think would be best ??? I have olive skin and brown eyes :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
Or do I need to color coordinate with my work boots :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 24, 2019, 09:33:10 PM
Clear.  I think clear is the best choice.  However with your complexion and eye color..........   :rofl:  Just  borrow one she wont miss.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 24, 2019, 09:34:52 PM
Clear.  I think clear is the best choice.  However with your complexion and eye color..........   :rofl:  Just  borrow one she wont miss.

 :salute:

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 24, 2019, 11:19:23 PM
Bees' wax can be sticky. I'm not sure that is going to be viable. Remember, you have to be able to scrape the protective layer of the head so it can generate friction with the striker.

It would smell better, though.

Nail polish? 

Extra points for thinking outside the box. I'm highly skeptical.

Is the plan to paint each match with a protective coating of "Romance Red"? And then scrape it off before using? I don't know.....that polish is pretty adherent stuff once it dries. 

If dried nail polish were flammable, I suspect many cosmetically-oriented people would end up with burning fingers when engaged in routine activities like cooking, smoking , or using flamethrowers. Burning fingernails probably causes cancer in California, so that might be a downside, too.

Remember here: the paraffin trick did work with red tip, wooden matches. I just couldn't get it to work for me with green tip matches. That suggests that before using this trick, it would be a good idea to test it out on which ever matches you prefer.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 01:31:04 AM
Really am hoping to find some caps this weekend and make that slurry up to dip the matches in and make them super easy strike anywhere :dd:

Also I received the UCO Firefly Match safe/flashlight :mail: it seems to be very good quality and I already have matches in it :D I will get pics and perhaps test it and the light out :tu: I did actually go out and try the light for a minute :whistle:

The light is ok but not as bright as I had hoped  :ahhh of course in an emergency or even out camping it would allow someone to get their tinder together, their matches out and light a fire :cheers: which is the purpose of this light :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 01:35:28 AM
I also already received the UCO Titan Stormproof matches and these things are like mini torches :ahhh and I know now why I thought that the Zippo Typhoon matches looked so big :o They are the same size :like: I am also waiting on the Typoon matches to get here and when they do I will take pics and compare them :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 25, 2019, 01:41:26 AM
I think the net size up is "Road Flare".

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K5lrrBX0Y68/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 02:29:36 AM
Yes, it would nearly have to be :ahhh

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2019, 03:09:30 PM
Everything in California is a "know carcinogen" and labeled as such  :facepalm:.  Beeswax, yeah just not quite right.  Nail polish,  :dunno: sure does smell like it'd lite up with the smallest of flames.  I walk past a nail shop to my favorite fast food Mexican restaurant and those fumes.     
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 25, 2019, 03:50:55 PM
*snide comments about California specific labels deleted*

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2019, 04:07:49 PM
*snide comments about California specific labels deleted*

Def

 :rofl:.  Its really ridiculous.  There are some things labeled here that I  :facepalm:.  My kids are older now and even they are beginning to  :facepalm:.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2019, 04:11:33 PM
And no I am certainly not one of those who live here even tho I was born here that get defensive over the craziness here.  I find myself  :facepalm:  :rofl:  :dunno:  :twak:  :ahhh   :think:  :bnghd: :poh: :shrug: :td: :sa: :dwts: just as much as the next.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 25, 2019, 06:54:29 PM
Well my Matchcap is due to arrive Monday or Tuesday :nanadance: :nanadance:
 Btw Poncho get your own nail polish. It works as threadlocker too :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 25, 2019, 06:59:15 PM
And no I am certainly not one of those who live here even tho I was born here that get defensive over the craziness here.  I find myself  :facepalm:  :rofl:  :dunno:  :twak:  :ahhh   :think:  :bnghd: :poh: :shrug: :td: :sa: :dwts: just as much as the next.   

We still get MSG where I live, no knife carry laws, but not nearly the diversity of products you get state-side...and no free-ship bay  :(
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 07:39:03 PM
Well my Matchcap is due to arrive Monday or Tuesday :nanadance: :nanadance:
 Btw Poncho get your own nail polish. It works as threadlocker too :tu:

I may or may not get nail polish :D but I did find some cap gun disks :whistle:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 07:40:32 PM
And no I am certainly not one of those who live here even tho I was born here that get defensive over the craziness here.  I find myself  :facepalm:  :rofl:  :dunno:  :twak:  :ahhh   :think:  :bnghd: :poh: :shrug: :td: :sa: :dwts: just as much as the next.   

Seems like everything I buy has a "in the state of California this substance is known to........" :D and I do :facepalm: often :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 25, 2019, 07:41:25 PM
Well my Matchcap is due to arrive Monday or Tuesday :nanadance: :nanadance:
 Btw Poncho get your own nail polish. It works as threadlocker too :tu:

Can't wait to see the Matchcap :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 25, 2019, 11:48:39 PM
Well my Matchcap is due to arrive Monday or Tuesday :nanadance: :nanadance:
 Btw Poncho get your own nail polish. It works as threadlocker too :tu:

I may or may not get nail polish :D but I did find some cap gun disks :whistle:
I just have a bottle of the cheapest clear polish I could lay hands on for threadlocking purposes. It was 99c if i remember correctly, works gangbusters.

Let us know how those strike anywheres turn out :gimme: :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 26, 2019, 01:11:27 AM
Just got home a while ago and don't know if I will attempt this tonight or tomorrow :think:

But for sure will let you guys know how it goes :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 26, 2019, 09:45:09 PM
Earlier in this thread I posted a picture of my old brass match safe, the one with the compass that went 180º out of true.

I realized that I really liked that match safe and decided to replace it. To my delight, I found that K&M is still making match safes. Link:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1883/6497/products/MG_0812_1000x.jpg?v=1533852539) (https://www.kmmatchcase.com)

Now, they aren't cheap, and my old compass did have a problem, but K&M seems to be using a new compass now. And these are heirloom quality matchcases that are neigh indestructible. So I splurged....

 :facepalm:

(https://i.imgur.com/bxBLGIc.jpg)

Filled the case with a dozen REI Stormproof matches and a striker.  Now need to take it on a hike to justify the expense.....
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 12:19:07 AM
Oh wow :o :dd: :like: that thing does look nice :cheers: any time you feel like taking more pics of it I am sure no one will complain :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 12:21:11 AM
Oh wow :o :dd: :like: that thing does look nice :cheers: any time you feel like taking more pics of it I am sure no one will complain :D
:iagree:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 12:28:56 AM
I got out and decided to burn some stuff today :D I have had a pile of scrap wood in the backyard waiting to be burnt for a while now and with nothing else pressing to do, I thought it would be a good time to try some different matches out :cheers:

I actually used the UCO Sweetfire matches to start the fire but forgot to take pics of those  :facepalm: but I did get to test out the UCO Titan Stormproof matches and the Zippo Typoon matches out :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/e4TYCx3h.jpg)

I struck each and lit some cardboard on fire and they both lit the cardboard fine :salute: but I lit both at the same time and the UCO being shorter with the coating even, burned longer than the Zippo ones :dunno: then I lit each individually again and tried to blow them out, the Zippo was able to be blown out but would automatically relight  :cheers: the UCO on the other hand has a stronger flame just by looks and was not able to be blown out at all :tu: so my conclusion is the same as most others I have seen online, that the UCOs are better and if you have the chance buy those  :cheers: the Zippos are no slouch and will work fine but the UCO ones are just a bit better :cheers:

On the matter of the Sweetfires, I lit it on first strike and put it with some paper under the wood and the result was very good :tu: they burn for several (package says 7) minutes and dried out the wood enough for it to catch fire and burn :like:

(https://i.imgur.com/0EiKwt2h.jpg)

I have a buddy to watch the fire with as well :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 12:47:22 AM
Nice fire Poncho!
And cool dog, what breed is it? :like:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
Thanks RF :hatsoff: He is a black dog :D (just a mutt ;) ) but I have had him for almost 12 years now and he is a great dog and still very active for his age :tu: his name is Blackjack  :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 12:53:58 AM
Here's what I am watching right now :dd:

(https://i.imgur.com/LyFI1ush.gif)

First gif I think I have uploaded :think: so not sure if it will work :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 01:16:02 AM
Thanks RF :hatsoff: He is a black dog :D (just a mutt ;) ) but I have had him for almost 12 years now and he is a great dog and still very active for his age :tu: his name is Blackjack  :cheers:
He looks like a great buddy :like:
Kind of looks like my dog, he is a black mutt(labrador/elkhound mix) too. Mine is only 4 so hopefully will enjoy his company for many, many years :like:

Here is a pic :cheers:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/5a5a5bcc51fd980e48a26817e8007b02.jpg)

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 01:19:45 AM
He looks like a great dog RF :tu: Hope you have him for many years to come :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 01:23:56 AM
He is, and thanks I hope so too :cheers:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 01:36:49 AM
Nice fire, Poncho!

Great dogs, guys!  (Can never get enough dog photos.  :tu:)

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 01:37:30 AM
Poncho, I'm not seeing any gif-type action in that fire shot.

Give it another try?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 01:38:38 AM
I can't see the GIF either :dunno:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 01:41:16 AM
Yeah the gif isn't working for me either :-\ I will try again :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 01:43:19 AM
 :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 01:44:16 AM
Well, if I click on it that works for me, so hopefully works for everyone else as well  :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 01:58:10 AM
It works for me on the app without clicking on it :cheers:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 27, 2019, 02:03:58 AM
Ah, ha!

Works if I click on it.  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 02:07:37 AM
Well that is good to hear :tu: I can use that method again if need be :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: RF52 on January 27, 2019, 02:08:31 AM
Go ahead Poncho :cheers:

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: SteveC on January 27, 2019, 06:06:44 AM
Nice fire pics Poncho and great pics of the dogs  :like: :tu:


gif is a nice touch as well   ;)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 03:59:54 PM
Thanks Steve :hatsoff: We had fun out there last night and the gif turned out better than I had hoped :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 27, 2019, 04:03:38 PM
Thanks for posting that Poncho.  Its interesting the UCO match in your "testing" seems to be consistent with others.  Those sweetfire "matches" look interesting for a lot of uses.  The burn time alone is a nice feature.  Awesome dog too  :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 27, 2019, 07:27:31 PM
Thanks Aloha :hatsoff: the UCO are better matches no question :salute: the flame that they produce is stronger and being such would start a fire better :cheers: I am still going to get the Zippo match safe because it has a fireproof cover for its striker and better reviews than the UCO match safe :tu:

I guess I should specify which of the sweetfire matches I used ::) :D I don't have the Stormproof ones, the ones I have light like regular matches and look like these :cheers:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1004/9126/products/sweetfire_points_web.jpg?v=1488327181)

I bought a pack of 20 and I am very pleased with these and glad I bought these but I do wish they were Stormproof ;) UCO also sells sweetfire tinder that is made from the same material (sugarcane fibers, hence the name) but none of the Stormproof ones come in packs of 20 :shrug:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on January 28, 2019, 07:04:42 AM
The Zippo match safe is nice.  Those sweetfire you have look great.  Storm proof would be a nice added feature but so long as yours work thats what matters. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 03:23:40 AM
:nanadance: :nanadance: prepare for potato quality picspam(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/650d27d8c4f66aec3f1437b1b6a11c00.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 03:37:17 AM
1. The unpackaged Matchcap in its unnatural habitat.
2. Filled up with 20 standard kitchen matches, which fit comfortably. Bonus shot of ugly fingers complete with terrible cuticles.
3. With a standard kitchen match for scale, side.
4. Match for scale, diameter, ugly fingers. Diameter is roughly that of a U.S. nickel.
The little baggie of extras that come with it consist of one extra o-ring, 3 extra phosphorus striker pads, and one extra sandpaper striker pad for the bottom. There's ample room for kitchen matches and a bit of cotton for tinder, if you please, and should be able to fit stormproof matches too. Machining and threads are exceptionally clean, O-ring came dry (easy to fix with a spot of silicone grease or chapstick). Extras baggie is small enough to be stuffed into the bottom of the case for safekeeping.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/a0f52a65b2cdc1983c611ff88d79a8a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/12857bb524b453518b20c14d7adfd04b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/b042e50b9f1e7b3635f37b1f7e6adb81.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190129/0b9ffcbdeea94c30a33127caa495ee54.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 29, 2019, 04:37:42 AM
 :like:

Good looking matchcase.  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 29, 2019, 04:38:27 AM
Is there a way to attach the cap to the base with a lanyard?   :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 04:49:04 AM
Is there a way to attach the cap to the base with a lanyard?   :think:
I was just thinking about that and I don't think there's a great way to do it. However, the knurling on the bottom is very aggressive so one may be able to tie a little turk's head bight with some cord and attach the pieces that way. I wouldn't be terribly confident with its staying power, though.

Also, the tolerances on the cap are pretty tight (relatively speaking, it's not finished like a Rolex by any means but it is better than I expected it to be) , and the O-ring is a snug fit in the cap. It would probably take some doing to accidentally lose the cap in a pack, and if you're using the case, I guess you have to stick the cap in your pocket or hold it in your match hand :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 29, 2019, 04:54:20 AM
That is a down right slick looking match safe :o 8) :like:

Something to get next time I have some extra funds :D

And grey happens to be one of my favorite colors :dd:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 29, 2019, 04:54:51 AM
Also thanks for the pics :hatsoff: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 05:06:16 AM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 29, 2019, 12:06:05 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 12:09:56 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Will do. Ill use it for a while and report back with my findings.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Max Stone on January 29, 2019, 12:20:17 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Will do. Ill use it for a while and report back with my findings.

Very good looking case.  :like:
Something that could last for years and protect the matches. Depending how humid your climate is, you could throw a few rice grains in to help absorb any residual moisture that could get trapped inside?
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 12:49:07 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Will do. Ill use it for a while and report back with my findings.

Very good looking case.  :like:
Something that could last for years and protect the matches. Depending how humid your climate is, you could throw a few rice grains in to help absorb any residual moisture that could get trapped inside?
Good idea. There's certainly enough extra room in there :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 29, 2019, 12:49:27 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Will do. Ill use it for a while and report back with my findings.

Thanks otherguy :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on January 29, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
I'll make sure to keep you all informed about any findings I make in use. I'm hard on my gear, so if there's a materials or engineering issue, I'll find it... i sincerely doubt there will be, though. 6061 aluminum is pretty reliable, the ano looks like it was done pretty well, and the machining is clean enough that I dont foresee any issues.

 :salute: :tu:

After a bit of use could you give is some thoughts on it :cheers: It looks very well made as you said though, so you shouldn't have any problems :like:
Will do. Ill use it for a while and report back with my findings.

Thanks otherguy :hatsoff:
My pleasure.

Initial thoughts are very positive. I like the quality and overall form factor of this case considerably more than the Marbles match safe and US military surplus plastic safe it replaced. Only benefit the Marbles has over it, aside from aesthetics which are subjective, is the captured cap of the Marbles. In order to lose that cap, you have to lose the whole safe. However, I've never had a problem keeping up with the cap on the surplus safe, so it's far from a big deal. I like the integrated striker design a lot and think it will work well for normal use, though I will probably end up carrying a backup striker in the chamber as well (as I do with all of my other safes) simply because I don't like the idea of having to rely on the wee little one alone in a pinch.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 30, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
Just found a brand called England's Glory matches that use to be made in England but they are now made in Sweden :D Who has any of these and can you make pics of them :whistle: :D Anyone in the UK :pok: or Sweden :pok: :D Cool looking artwork on the boxes from what I have seen but a real pic from a member here would be so much better :dd: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on January 30, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on January 30, 2019, 05:51:15 PM
Also found that the same company makes Scottish Bluebells :like:

Bit of history on them both here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England%27s_Glory) at Wikipedia :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on February 01, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
Have you all heard about the old sportsman's field expedient match safe? A spent 12ga and 20ga shell will nest together and render matches rainproof in a hunting vest. I believe a 10ga and 12ga will also nest for a little bit larger safe. Plastic shell hulls are super light as well, and the expanded crimping at the head of each shell gives the nested hulls enough friction to stay together OK.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 01, 2019, 06:08:10 PM
I might have heard of that years ago :think: but not extremely sure :dunno: it is a good idea, especially if somebody is hunting and gets lost but still has matches with them and need to keep them dry :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 01, 2019, 08:47:52 PM
Have you all heard about the old sportsman's field expedient match safe? A spent 12ga and 20ga shell will nest together and render matches rainproof in a hunting vest. I believe a 10ga and 12ga will also nest for a little bit larger safe. Plastic shell hulls are super light as well, and the expanded crimping at the head of each shell gives the nested hulls enough friction to stay together OK.

Great recollection. I had heard of that, many years ago.

Seems like it would be better than nothing. Which begs the question: what is the hunter doing with matches and no match safe?   :think:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on February 01, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Have you all heard about the old sportsman's field expedient match safe? A spent 12ga and 20ga shell will nest together and render matches rainproof in a hunting vest. I believe a 10ga and 12ga will also nest for a little bit larger safe. Plastic shell hulls are super light as well, and the expanded crimping at the head of each shell gives the nested hulls enough friction to stay together OK.

Great recollection. I had heard of that, many years ago.

Seems like it would be better than nothing. Which begs the question: what is the hunter doing with matches and no match safe?   :think:
Honestly, most hunters I know (self included) dont carry matches in the first place. You'll usually find a Bic or cheap Bicalike in their kit. I think the old spent shells trick is somewhat a relic of the past, perhaps dating from the Depression era when you had to make do with what you had. I'd bet a lot of those cases were made out of shells guys found littering the ground.

Ninja edit: maybe they were most common with a 12 and 16 ga shell nested? The Sweet Sixteen was pretty popular around the turn of the last century, if memory serves. Shells would have been pretty easy to find.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: thatotherguy on February 02, 2019, 02:54:08 AM
Alrighty, laddies and germs, the Matchcap has gotten its first use. I like it. I like it a lot. However, I disagree that the proper way to strike the match is from the opening towards the o-ring as Exotac recommends. I popped the heads off two matches doing that- the follow through hit the head of the match on the little ledge under the striker and above the o-ring and popped it right off. I prefer striking the match at around a 45 degree angle towards yourself, which gives you ample striking surface to ignite the head and plenty of room to follow through, plus easy ability to provide shielding from the wind. Will update if anything changes in my opinions as I continue to use it.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 02, 2019, 03:50:30 AM
Thanks for the update otherguy :hatsoff: good info about striking matches on it :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on February 04, 2019, 01:24:12 PM
Just got this. It comes with 12 UCO Titan Stormproof matches inside but there is room for two more plus the additional strikers so I now have 14 inside. I had thought to take the strikers out but then I wondered whether the striker paper is waterproof and will matches strike on it when it is wet? I'll ask UCO and get back to you. Would be a bit silly to have stormproof matches that cannot be lit.

(http://www.timelessjewishart.com/EDC_zx/uco.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on February 04, 2019, 03:18:18 PM
Be great to have strike anywhere storm matches  :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 04, 2019, 04:33:33 PM
I had thought to take the strikers out but then I wondered whether the striker paper is waterproof and will matches strike on it when it is wet? I'll ask UCO and get back to you. Would be a bit silly to have stormproof matches that cannot be lit.


There is no substitute for empiric testing.  :pok:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 04, 2019, 04:43:10 PM
These are simply the nicest matches I've ever used:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/518WiWd2jHL._SY450_.jpg)


They fire up beautifully and the match sticks are a bit thicker than the average. It used to be that one could find Strike Anywhere Blue Tip matches, but I don't think they are available anymore. Too bad.  :cry:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 04, 2019, 06:30:53 PM
Great matches and match safe, pombz :like: unfortunately the strikers are not waterproof as I have seen in several YouTube videos :facepalm: so keep all strikers inside the safe until needed :tu: that way they will stay dry :cheers: Zippos match safe on the other hand has a protective cap over their strikers keeping it dry but the UCO matches are superior  :salute: still I want one of the UCO safes as they look really nice :like:

Love those matches as well, Nix :dd: been looking at the Ohio ones since I restarted this thread  :cheers: it is a shame that they dont make the strike anywhere ones anymore as well :-\
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 04, 2019, 06:36:18 PM
The Blue Tips are pricey....but a joy to use.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on February 04, 2019, 07:31:36 PM
Great matches and match safe, pombz :like: unfortunately the strikers are not waterproof as I have seen in several YouTube videos :facepalm: so keep all strikers inside the safe until needed :tu: that way they will stay dry :cheers: Zippos match safe on the other hand has a protective cap over their strikers keeping it dry but the UCO matches are superior  :salute: still I want one of the UCO safes as they look really nice :like:

Love those matches as well, Nix :dd: been looking at the Ohio ones since I restarted this thread  :cheers: it is a shame that they dont make the strike anywhere ones anymore as well :-\

Useful, thanks!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 12, 2019, 03:19:41 AM
So I have bought something that is a match but also a firestarter/tinder :cheers: They are the Diamond Strike-a-Fire strikeable firestarters :like: They are very similar to the UCO Sweetfire strikeable firestarters :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/YX7H53fh.jpg)

I got a box of these (48 in a box) at Wal-Mart in the grilling section for around $10 US :o The Sweetfire ones cost me around $8 US for 20 :salute: For fire starting in general I believe that the Diamond ones are a much better deal as they are suppose to burn for 12-15 minutes (what it says on the back) and cost roughly 21 cents each :like: while the UCO Sweetfire ones only burn about 7 minutes and cost roughly 40 cents each :think: I do think that the Sweetfire are still a good deal and come in a much more compact box (think kitchen matches sized box) with better striking surfaces on each side of the box, which would be more convenient to carry with you into the woods but you could likely stick a few of the Diamond ones in a ziploc with a striker and be just as convenient :cheers: Also considering the size of the Diamond ones, you could cut them in half or in fourths if in survival situation and make 2 match ones and 2 extra just for tinder (if you have another source for making fire) :tu: Couple comparison pics of the 2 :cheers:

(https://i.imgur.com/93423KRh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5rxjtSdh.jpg)

I am going to try and strike one of each in the near future and see how long they actually burn and see how each one fairs :salute: I think I will also cut the Diamond ones in half both ways and in fourths to also check to see how they do like that :tu:

Also of note, the Sweetfire ones have a much better and more natural smell (being made from sugar cane fibers) whereas the Diamond ones have more of a fuel type smell (no idea what they are made from but do look similar to the Sweetfire). I am guessing this is less environmentally friendly but in survival I wouldn't be thinking about that as much as just regular use ::) but they are sold in the grilling section so perhaps not majorly bad for the environment or food :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 12, 2019, 04:38:32 AM
When is the Annual Poncho's Bonfire and S'Mores roast?   :pok:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 12, 2019, 04:56:24 AM
When is the Annual Poncho's Bonfire and S'Mores roast?   :pok:

Usually around Marchish :shrug: :D I need to get a pile of wood and have a bonfire with hot dogs and s'mores :drool: If it isn't raining and I have any time off in the next while I think I may gather some wood and stack it in my usual fire burning area :tu:

(http://www.allsmileys.com/files/crawler-smileys/summer/49.gif)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on February 12, 2019, 05:19:30 AM
 :ahhh
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on February 12, 2019, 03:33:58 PM
So I have bought something that is a match but also a firestarter/tinder :cheers: They are the Diamond Strike-a-Fire strikeable firestarters :like: They are very similar to the UCO Sweetfire strikeable firestarters :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/YX7H53fh.jpg)

I got a box of these (48 in a box) at Wal-Mart in the grilling section for around $10 US :o The Sweetfire ones cost me around $8 US for 20 :salute: For fire starting in general I believe that the Diamond ones are a much better deal as they are suppose to burn for 12-15 minutes (what it says on the back) and cost roughly 21 cents each :like: while the UCO Sweetfire ones only burn about 7 minutes and cost roughly 40 cents each :think: I do think that the Sweetfire are still a good deal and come in a much more compact box (think kitchen matches sized box) with better striking surfaces on each side of the box, which would be more convenient to carry with you into the woods but you could likely stick a few of the Diamond ones in a ziploc with a striker and be just as convenient :cheers: Also considering the size of the Diamond ones, you could cut them in half or in fourths if in survival situation and make 2 match ones and 2 extra just for tinder (if you have another source for making fire) :tu: Couple comparison pics of the 2 :cheers:

(https://i.imgur.com/93423KRh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5rxjtSdh.jpg)

I am going to try and strike one of each in the near future and see how long they actually burn and see how each one fairs :salute: I think I will also cut the Diamond ones in half both ways and in fourths to also check to see how they do like that :tu:

Also of note, the Sweetfire ones have a much better and more natural smell (being made from sugar cane fibers) whereas the Diamond ones have more of a fuel type smell (no idea what they are made from but do look similar to the Sweetfire). I am guessing this is less environmentally friendly but in survival I wouldn't be thinking about that as much as just regular use ::) but they are sold in the grilling section so perhaps not majorly bad for the environment or food :D

Are those UCO Sweetfire's wind/weather proof like their matches?
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on February 12, 2019, 03:37:38 PM
Wind proof, no. 
https://youtu.be/CRHsxylWdcI
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on February 12, 2019, 03:56:09 PM
Wind proof, no. 
https://youtu.be/CRHsxylWdcI

I just watched that actually, not sure it's fair, the matches are the same, you have to wave them to relight them after soaking or blowing them hard.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on February 12, 2019, 04:02:57 PM
Fair enough.  Lets see if we can get a member to test for us.   :popcorn: 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on February 12, 2019, 04:39:53 PM
The version I have is just like a regular match :salute: but they have them now with a similar top to the stormproof ones :cheers: I just don't have any of those and wasn't sure if i was willing to give the greater price for that feature  :think: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2019, 07:15:42 PM
Remember these?

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Canadian%20Military%20Issue%20%285%29.jpg?m=1548079538)

I finally lit one over the weekend.  The bad news is that I forgot to switch my camera to video mode, but the good news is that it was on burst mode, so I got a few good photos even if I didn't get video.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Ignition%20%281%29.jpg?m=1552932611)

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Ignition%20%282%29.jpg?m=1552932611)

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Fire/Matches/Ignition%20%283%29.jpg?m=1552932611)

They didn't burn as long as UCO matches do, but that is to be expected as they are a fraction of the size.  It did burn for about ten seconds before getting to the wood and being blown out by the wind.  It was neat to see that a 50 year old match had just as much potential today as it did (at least) five decades ago.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on March 18, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
That is awesome news, Grant  :o I am a little surprised but very glad to see that it lit up and burned as it was suppose to when it was new :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
I am just guessing they burn as well as they did when they were new.  It seemed to burn with about what I would expect from a match of that size, but as I wasn't around to witness a burn of them 50 years ago I really have no frame of reference.  :D

But, regardless of how well they originally would have worked, they work excellently now.  :D

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on March 18, 2019, 08:22:09 PM
That is impressive for a match of that age!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2019, 08:31:12 PM
I guess the chemicals that ignite don't deteriorate, even if whatever binding agent that's in there does?   :think:

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 19, 2019, 06:23:49 AM
That's amazing!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on March 19, 2019, 02:04:30 PM
Not bad at all.  Those would sure do the trick.  Key is have all your tinder ready to go before you light the match.  The burn time sure seems sufficient enough for sure.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on March 19, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
This reminds me that I am suppose to light some of those fire starter matches and time them :facepalm: Slipped my mind completely until Grant posted this about those old matches  :ahhh will try to do the test in the next few days, perhaps weekend :salute:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on April 10, 2019, 12:15:12 AM
Well I finally remembered to light one of the Strike a Fire firestarter matches  :cheers:

It was a little bit windy but nothing that a normal Spring day might be :tu: I lit it and it went straight out :facepalm: I had a few strike anywhere matches and got out of the wind and finally got the thing to catch fire :ahhh I then stuck it down in the ground and started a timer :tu: it burned for 16 minutes and 50 seconds :o very pleased with that time  :like: it also had flames around the 3 minute mark that were sustained long enough and hot enough to boil water :salute:

The first pic is when I first lit it, second was about 3 minutes in and the 3rd poc was almost at 10 minutes :cheers: after the 10 minute mark it was very small flames but with as long as it burned (provided you can get it going) it would definitely dry kindling out enough that it would catch fire and help start a decent fire :like:

Worth taking camping but I wouldn't recommend these as a piece of survival gear (which clearly they aren't and are for grilling :D ) still was fun to watch it burn :whistle: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 10, 2019, 12:56:55 AM
 :woohoo:. Way to go Poncho!
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on April 10, 2019, 01:15:56 AM
Thanks Barry  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on April 10, 2019, 01:31:03 AM
Impressive. Perhaps overkill for that cigar you've been saving though.........  :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 10, 2019, 04:06:12 AM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on April 10, 2019, 04:50:09 AM
Overkill :think: Never :ahhh :D

The taste that it might pass on the cigar on the other hand would be awful  :-\ :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on April 10, 2019, 02:16:54 PM
Those are pretty cool Poncho!

It kind of sucks that they don't light themselves as they are supposed to though.   :facepalm:

Still, I can see some benefit to them, although maybe not as much as just plain firestarters.  What is the pricing like on them?

Also, do you think they would fare any better if sheltered from the wind?

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on April 10, 2019, 03:06:00 PM
Thanks Poncho.  They might be best as a fire extender paired up with good matches or a lighter  :dunno:.  My mind went to fatwood more or less. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on April 11, 2019, 12:12:38 PM
If the wind hadn't been a factor they would have lit themselves :salute: at least I will try again when the wind isn't blowing and see for myself :cheers: They are relatively cheap at about $15 for a box of 48 :o So they are priced right :D Not advertised to do anything with outdoor survival or camping is
probably why the prices aren't bad ;)

Once lit though, it burned very well :tu: I really haven't bought many other type firestarters so I can't comment how they stack up against others :cheers: I usually use paper or cardboard to start fires around home but a few of these thrown into a pack with some other matches a striker or a lighter would weigh nothing :like: Worth the purchase to me for sure though :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 11, 2019, 01:16:41 PM
Lots of interesting items in here. :like:
Standard matches were always enough for me. I was going to pick up a nice orange container with those nice stormproof matches, but I talked myself out of it. I may reconsider.

Even a full matchbox was overkill, so I split it into two slender halves. Nice and thin, and still plenty of matches. :cheers:
(https://i.imgur.com/03zmzOK.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on April 11, 2019, 03:23:57 PM
Great way to carry matches in a smaller package :tu: You really ought to try those Stormproof matches by UCO though (regular size or the Titans :like: ) :dd: The Zippo ones are good as well :cheers: It is a different experience than a regular match for sure :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on April 11, 2019, 04:30:23 PM
Nice job, RP!  :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: ReamerPunch on April 12, 2019, 05:22:57 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on November 02, 2019, 06:07:56 PM
The weather is starting to cool here again :whistle: I have gotten a little money for my birthday and I bought some of the UCO waterproof matches :D no pics but I did try a couple and they work :D I also got one of the Zippo branded match safes and it even keeps the striker dry :like: I will have to get some pics but for not I thought I could light a match under this thread and get it going again ::) :rofl:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on November 28, 2020, 04:01:44 AM
Well, I didn't light to much of a fire under this thread last time :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :oops: :D

Have any new matches came out lately :think: I know it is a very small niche in the market but was hoping to find some new info on matches, match safes or anything match related :cheers:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Nix on November 28, 2020, 09:58:48 PM
I picked up some of these in the grocery store the other day:

(https://i.imgur.com/R4AO4lD.jpg)



Not bad at all. Not as great as the "strike anywhere" matches of yore, but they work nicely if 'struck' carefully on a rough surface.

I rubbed a little paraffin wax on the wooden sticks of a few (being careful not to get any wax on the white tips) and found that they burned a bit longer & hotter. Sort of a Redneck Hurricane match. Not waterproof, but could be a good addition to a match safe.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on November 30, 2020, 01:36:23 AM
Good ole Diamond Strike Anywheres :cheers: I still have some of the red tipped Strike Anywhere ones that they use to sell along with the newer green tipped ones like you have pictured :salute: I like the idea of using wax to make them burn longer as well :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: nate j on November 30, 2020, 02:41:57 AM
I rubbed a little paraffin wax on the wooden sticks of a few (being careful not to get any wax on the white tips) and found that they burned a bit longer & hotter. Sort of a Redneck Hurricane match. Not waterproof, but could be a good addition to a match safe.

I'm thinking if you coated the entire match, they would be waterproof, but then you would need to remove the wax from the white tip before they would light.  Always a trade-off...
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pfrsantos on February 12, 2021, 01:20:04 PM
Hum... favourite matches.

 :think: :think:

I'd have to say New Zealand vs South Africa. Awlso, any rugby game with the all Blacks, South Africa or Australia.

 :cheers: :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 05, 2022, 01:56:04 PM
I've been using these a lot more lately- they aren't as cheap as some of the others, but as you don't use ten matches each time, they probably even out!

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 05, 2022, 03:27:03 PM
Exactly Def!  I get so frustrated with matches that flame out a half second after you strike them. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 05, 2022, 05:34:45 PM
Exactly Def!  I get so frustrated with matches that flame out a half second after you strike them.

Don't get me started!

I live on the ocean- the air is always damp here and almost always windy.  Most matches don't stand a chance!   :ahhh

Unfortunately I am also pretty cheap at times and hate spending money on something that I am literally going to burn!

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: nate j on August 06, 2022, 03:05:03 AM
Do you guys use matches regularly?

I have some of those stormproof matches in my fire kit, but they are really just a backup to my Bics.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 06, 2022, 04:06:16 AM
Yeah, I use matches quite frequently for lighting my BioLite camp stove at work.  Since it is usually windy (I'm only a few hundred yards from the ocean) it is easier to drop a lit match into the burn chamber than it is to try and ignite something in the open and drop it in.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Sos24 on August 06, 2022, 04:06:33 AM
I went the opposite way.  I now use the long reach lighters for my Coleman stoves.   

This is what I do.  I have a Soto extendable which is awesome for lighting stoves, even twig ones and alcohol.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Sos24 on August 06, 2022, 04:08:21 AM
I haven’t used anything other than strike anywhere with a wax coated tip in a long time, but have been contemplating giving some stormproof ones a try.  The UCO do look interesting.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 06, 2022, 11:43:53 AM
I haven't tried it, but apparently they stay lit even when dunked in water.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on August 06, 2022, 04:10:30 PM
I can confirm they do stay lit when dunked in water.  We thought it was hype or some trick but when we tried  :o.  I light rain wouldn't bother those UCO matches IMO.  I'd be pretty confident in wet weather situations tho I am not sure how much wind they can withstand  :dunno:. 

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 06, 2022, 05:58:37 PM
I haven't tried it, but apparently they stay lit even when dunked in water.

Def

They are some of the best and I have tried it more than once to see if they would stay lit :ahhh :like:

The Zippo brand ones do just as well :cheers:

They also have the regular sized ones (the Zippo ones are more similar sized to the Titan ones) and the ones you have are a bigger more awesome version of the regular ones :o they burn longer and have all the same pluses of the regular sized ones :salute: the regular ones are cheaper though :tu:

Man do I love matches :dd: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 06, 2022, 06:49:26 PM
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.  I will keep using the Titans.  When you are trying to get something to light, it's not a bad thing to have more fire.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 06, 2022, 09:57:46 PM
Totally  :D More fire is more better :D :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on August 08, 2022, 04:27:11 PM
 :iagree: 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 08, 2022, 07:42:41 PM
I kinda figured you guys would agree with that!

I see Les Stroud and Dave Canterbury talking about having one match and having to live off it, and I'm pretty sure that would mean I was going to die.   :facepalm:

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 08, 2022, 08:21:11 PM
 :iagree: me too :ahhh I sure wouldn't want to rely on just 1 match :dwts: :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on August 08, 2022, 10:00:15 PM
Yeah they can have their one match but I'll have several UCO and a ferro rod plus some magnesium and fat wood to boot all as back up to my lighter.  While I like to fool with fire I am not going to be relying on a match or a lighter.  I have my emergency fire kit stocked with UCO matches. 

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 09, 2022, 06:07:18 PM
Yeah I am thinking of picking up a bunch of them to stash in different places.  Short of lighting candles in the house, I cannot forsee a situation where that much fire would not be a welcome thing.

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 10, 2022, 01:20:14 PM
I ended up getting a few things for work yesterday at Walmart and was passing the Outdoor section :whistle: I found some of the Zippo Typoon matches :facepalm: I bought the 25 without the waterproof case vs the 15 with the case :D they also have the regular UCO Stormproof ones but I have enough of those for now :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on August 10, 2022, 04:07:51 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 10, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
 :hatsoff:

 :D
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 10, 2022, 05:22:01 PM
What is this "enough" that you speak of?   :think:

:D

Def
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 11, 2022, 04:34:08 AM
Not enough for forever but enough for the moment (translating to "I only had enough money to be able to buy these because I have more of the other type at the moment" ) :whistle:

 :D

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Sos24 on August 21, 2022, 03:48:01 AM
Yeah they can have their one match but I'll have several UCO and a ferro rod plus some magnesium and fat wood to boot all as back up to my lighter.  While I like to fool with fire I am not going to be relying on a match or a lighter.  I have my emergency fire kit stocked with UCO matches.
Agree.  If talking survival, I like the idea of redundancy.  I don’t usually have matches; but I frequently have a couple lighters, spark wheel, ferro rod and multiple types of tinder. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: XAVT on August 22, 2022, 08:47:24 AM
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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 22, 2022, 06:00:08 PM
That is cool packaging  :o where are those located? Not the US probably :dunno: :popcorn: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: XAVT on August 23, 2022, 12:21:43 AM
Redheads is an Australian brand of matches they used to be manufactured in Australia but now made in Sweden.

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 23, 2022, 03:16:24 PM
I now remember from the previous page that RP had used that brand to make smaller match boxes :tu:

They look pretty cool :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 23, 2022, 04:20:47 PM
Facebook Memories reminded me of this from 4 years ago today.  It seemed topical!

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 23, 2022, 06:28:06 PM
Nice memory 8) :like: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on August 23, 2022, 07:55:40 PM
Yeah, they aren't the best matches, but they would do in a pinch.  Perfect for kayaking!

Also, I don't think any of them were used before I got them.  Likely someone set up a paddling kit, threw these in there and then forgot about them.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: XAVT on August 24, 2022, 12:05:50 AM
I now remember from the previous page that RP had used that brand to make smaller match boxes :tu:

They look pretty cool :like:

https://www.redheads.com.au/products/matches

Redheads used to produce more sizes in their safety matches and have limited edition packs with various themes and artwork on the boxes. The boxes were and still are I guess quite collectible, as in the same way people collect SAK's.

Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on August 24, 2022, 08:47:16 PM
Great link :like: Yes, I am sure they are collectable seeing how they have been out so long  :cheers: :like:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: pomsbz on September 11, 2022, 05:46:12 AM
Yeah I am thinking of picking up a bunch of them to stash in different places.  Short of lighting candles in the house, I cannot forsee a situation where that much fire would not be a welcome thing.

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Problem with this is that they're not strike anywhere, you need the strip from the side of the box and that doesn't work when it gets wet. I find it rather counter productive. It also means that you need to keep a bit of striking strip with your matches where you store them.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on September 11, 2022, 05:04:28 PM
Match striking surface is important and needed.  I'm going to guess and say most like me carry their matches in a water tight container with striker. 

I do wonder if there is a match that can be struck on the file of the 58mm SAKs?  I should give it a try.  Strike anywhere aside I wonder if there is a reliable metal match strike surface available?

I am not too worried myself as I use a water tight container with strike surface.   
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 12, 2022, 01:29:57 PM
I am not sure that strike anywhere matches are considered safe enough for the NA market as I can't seem to find them anywhere.   ::)

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: nate j on September 12, 2022, 06:24:02 PM
I am not sure that strike anywhere matches are considered safe enough for the NA market as I can't seem to find them anywhere.   ::)

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The author of this blog post went to some trouble to investigate:

https://www.99boulders.com/why-have-so-many-strike-anywhere-matches-been-discontinued


The TL;DR version:  a number of brands have been discontinued because strike anywhere matches incur hazardous material shipping fees (making them not profitable to sell online for home delivery in consumer quantities), but Diamond Greenlight strike anywhere matches are still fairly widely available in hardware and big box stores.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 13, 2022, 02:25:47 PM
I will have to look for them.  I am not familiar with that brand.

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Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: GearedForwards on September 13, 2022, 11:35:15 PM
I have a small 'stockpile' of strike anywhere matches, i keep them in a waterproof keychain that was originally a peanut lighter. Some others I keep in non-waterproof kits, but have dipped their heads in wax.

Whilst playing around with them I discovered that Rough Rider's 'match strike' nail nicks are not actually rough enough to strike them. The file on a Compact, however, works wonderfully and feels like you're using a matchbox in hand.
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on September 14, 2022, 01:41:53 AM
 :tu:
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on November 03, 2022, 03:46:25 PM
Bought a few more of the Zippo branded typhoon matches  :cheers:

Never hurts to have plenty of matches but guess I have more than I will ever use now :whistle:

Guess I need to get to striking matches just to watch em burn :D

(https://media.tenor.com/cpAWL3fn1fcAAAAM/match-stick-flame.gif)
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Aloha on November 03, 2022, 03:50:10 PM
I saw the bump and wondered what was Poncho lighting on fire  :D. 
Title: Re: Favorite Matches!
Post by: Poncho65 on November 09, 2022, 05:43:20 PM
Not much right now :ahhh almost 80°F here last couple days :dd: but winter is just around the corner and cold weather with it :ahhh