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Title: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: LOWW on July 11, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
Hi
(Some) Chinese Company sell an Shield made of Plastic. I found some who sell an Shield in different thickness.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Transparent-PC-Plastic-Round-Shield-Police-SWAT-Riot-Shield-for-Security-Protect/262494757001?hash=item3d1de82089:m:mWH4IzK_N8xriVe0DlNnx3Q
The offer an 6mm Shield (the standard size is 3mm).

Does anyone tried it out how good it is?  :o
THX
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: hiraethus on July 11, 2018, 07:20:27 PM
Not that exact model, but I did try one of these (https://www.lakeland.co.uk/72292/Lakeland-Traditional-Jelly-Mould) and quite liked the shape.  I found I got more use out of one of these (https://www.amazon.com/Break-Resistant-Clear-Plastic-Fruit/dp/B01MUCYBYA) though.  I think magentus has one of these (https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Aluminum-Porthole-Window-Nautical/dp/B0017TXYNI) on his U-boat somewhere too.  Hope this helps. :salute:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Don Pablo on July 11, 2018, 08:00:31 PM
I don’t think anyone here has a plastic shield like that. :think:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Mechanickal on July 11, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 11, 2018, 10:07:26 PM
As it seems to be a polycarbonate plastic it should be quite tough and impact resistant. (Find a similar thickness piece of Lexan (polycarbonate) somewhere and bring your favorite hammer, sledge, baseball bat and throw some rocks at it. It is a tough material, especially with the slight give someone holding it will provide).

Edit: If I'm not mistaken protective glasses are often made of polycarbonate plastic, and they are not anywhere near 6mm thick,


Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Smashie on July 11, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
 :dnft:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 12, 2018, 03:56:49 AM
:dnft:

You have to appreciate and care for a good troll if you find one. It is important to have pets and hobbies they say.

That said, who among us can't use a good polycarbonate riot shield now and then? It seemed great for swash buckling.



Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Alan K. on July 14, 2018, 11:18:04 PM
Not being a riot policeman, I generally find it in my best interest to avoid compromised areas. Just don't be where there is a riot and you won't need a riot shield. A helmet of some sort even a bicycle helmet will better protect you from flying objects such as rocks and batteries anyway, and you can more easily and less obtrusively carry a bicycle helmet with you than a shield.

If you just have to be in a riot zone don't forget a good gas mask.  I don't recommend military surplus for this because the filters that come with them are suspect.  That's why they are sold for collecting purposes only. You don't know if they are out of date or if they have been stored properly or even if they will work for the specific riot control gas you are likely to face.  Better to get a new, commercial grade, gas mask such as used around paints, solvents, and organic pesticides, and have a couple of different filters with you just in case.
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Mechanickal on July 14, 2018, 11:24:26 PM
The OP isn't a riot officer either.
So your thought is just as good as any's ;)
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Smashie on July 15, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
(https://image.ibb.co/bXfMxT/w_mall_ninja_level_99_7166380.png)
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 15, 2018, 09:16:27 PM
The OP isn't a riot officer either.
So your thought is just as good as any's ;)

I've seen some demonstrators bring their own riot shields to counter the Police. Maybe that is a use?

As a general note it is important to bring some like minded angry friends if you are going to riot. A single guy with a shield breaking up cobble stones and throwing them around just doesn't count as a riot.
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 15, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/bXfMxT/w_mall_ninja_level_99_7166380.png)

Now there is a multi-tool!  :D
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Mechanickal on July 15, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
They won't be able to tell who's who and the police might join the riot!
:ahhh

TEOTWAWKI!!
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Smashie on July 15, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
 :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgX3H1whsRE
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 15, 2018, 09:49:57 PM
People collect all kinds of stuff. Stamps, tools, money - why should the OPs tactical gear be any different?

:whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgX3H1whsRE

That was one thing I always wondered about Mythbusters - why they didn't dig into all the material within the martial arts world. Breaking stuff trickery, plenty of useless or even dangerous advice, and plenty of claims without foundation. Should have been a treasure chest right there.

Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Mechanickal on July 15, 2018, 10:04:21 PM
I'd be worried if my neighbour is wanting to buy riot shields after looking up methods of kicking in my door :whistle:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 15, 2018, 11:23:58 PM
I'd be worried if my neighbour is wanting to buy riot shields after looking up methods of kicking in my door :whistle:

I guess he might need that riot shield if he does that..  :twak:
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Ron Who on July 16, 2018, 07:29:09 PM
A riot shield would be nice to have against this guy  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UBe22y1dE
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on July 16, 2018, 09:55:18 PM
A riot shield would be nice to have against this guy  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UBe22y1dE

 :D

See, he had a riot shield and it looked very useful.

Wonder if they can be used for serving cakes too?
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Etherealicer on August 27, 2018, 01:44:06 PM
Simple things to test first... choose the size you want. Buckle that much weight to your arm. Hold your arm up in a defensive posture... keep that up for a couple of minutes.

Shields are used when fighting in formation, for individuals they are pretty much useless (they have become mostly useless during the middle ages when halberds started to tear shield formations apart like paper. Riot shields are an exception, but they are mostly used to stop low power projectiles like stones).
Shield is one of those things where heavy is good as the mass of the shield is what stops the impact (else it simply goes on your arm or wrist in case of bucklers). If you want something defensive shield-like, I would recommend a tonfa (training is of course key). But I would even more recommend to work on your running/endurance, that will probably be a far better strategy.
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Etherealicer on August 27, 2018, 01:52:30 PM
:whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgX3H1whsRE
Some idiots but some are even impressive in failure... and you know you have to train (and fail) before you succeed.
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Etherealicer on August 27, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
I'd be worried if my neighbour is wanting to buy riot shields after looking up methods of kicking in my door :whistle:
I would install a camera to see how he is hurting himself while trying to get through my door :rofl:
Should be YT hit
Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Sea Monster on March 17, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Image search indicates that different countries are doing all kinds of weird and wonderful stuff with riot shields, but my experience has always been of the armadillo interlocking type - ie, you make a wall with all your buddies and simply walk forward (or backward, depending on how you feel about the situation) and use a baton on trouble makers who get too close.

A buckler style disc seems terrible to me, but maybe I just don't know the necessary techniques.....

Title: Re: Does anyone here tried "the" Plastic Shield from CN?
Post by: Vidar on June 13, 2019, 12:16:53 PM
A buckler style disc seems terrible to me, but maybe I just don't know the necessary techniques.....

The style was originally used for chaotic close quarter fighting in confined spaces so I assume it makes sense it that setting. That is almost the opposite of interlocking lines with clear fronts, so I would expect the evolved shield designs to differ too.

Anyone heard anything about how the OPs neightboor surveillance/ door kicking turned out? I can't see how any action could end well at all - shield or not.. And if the neighboor just happen to be a girl I could see all kinds of additional issues too.