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Title: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: stuntzombie on January 07, 2024, 02:30:02 AM
I came across this tool in a lot on an auction site. I can't figure out if it's a Victorinox, a Wenger, or a knockoff. I can't say I've seen a Vic or Wenger with a compass in the scale. There was only one shot of one side of the knife, and nothing in the description about the knife itself. Any ideas of what it could be?

(https://i.imgur.com/teems2yh.jpg)
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: Enginears on January 07, 2024, 02:47:28 AM
Looks very similar, like it could be an older version of the “swiss eagle ranger” https://www.amazon.com/Swiss-Eagle-Ranger-Multi-Tool-Compass/dp/B0C9TNSGDK
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: stuntzombie on January 07, 2024, 03:02:18 AM
Ah, I think you're right. I can't see much of the tools, but they definitely look different from anything produced by Wenger or Victorinox.
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: nate j on January 07, 2024, 04:39:09 AM
AFAIK, the only SAKs ever produced by Vic or Wenger that included a compass had the Wenger Orienteering Tool…

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Orienteering+Tool
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: BPRoberts on January 07, 2024, 05:09:18 AM
Looks very similar, like it could be an older version of the “swiss eagle ranger” https://www.amazon.com/Swiss-Eagle-Ranger-Multi-Tool-Compass/dp/B0C9TNSGDK

Can we take a moment to appreciate the hilariously mislabeled functions in the Amazon pics?  Two wire cutters! One of which is a terrible sewing awl. Tweezers that open wine bottles! Phillips head scissors! And at least 3 small knives!
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: marlowe221 on January 07, 2024, 06:34:14 AM
I think we can safely assume that the seller is Felix Immler himself!  ;)

Only Mr. Immler would be able to come up with a way to open a wine bottle with a pair of tweezers...  :rofl:

 :climber:
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: LoopCutter on January 08, 2024, 02:04:38 AM
Looks very similar, like it could be an older version of the “swiss eagle ranger” https://www.amazon.com/Swiss-Eagle-Ranger-Multi-Tool-Compass/dp/B0C9TNSGDK

50 sold last month.
Two review both dissing the magnifier.
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: Enginears on January 08, 2024, 02:43:29 AM
Can we take a moment to appreciate the hilariously mislabeled functions in the Amazon pics?  Two wire cutters! One of which is a terrible sewing awl. Tweezers that open wine bottles! Phillips head scissors! And at least 3 small knives!

 :rofl:  add to that it shows the woodsaw going after a bike chain for some reason!

Another funny thing I found was on another listing you have this, which could almost be a champ with the front scale photo shopped in.   [ This attachment cannot be displayed inline in 'Print Page' view ]  
But if you scroll a bit more into the pics you see this with different amount of tools and completely different tools.
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Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: IMR4198 on January 08, 2024, 04:08:04 PM
   Look at the scissors in the second photo.  You can see the characteristic little hump with the nail nick in it.  All the Chinese sak-alikes have it.  Best wishes.  G
 :(
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: Huntsman on January 09, 2024, 05:54:45 AM
Yep - The scissor bump is always a giveaway on the CAKs
However the scissors in the OP photo do not have the bump.

The give away for me on the OP photo is the mini screwdriver - The handles are very short on the CAKs and round not hexagonal
Also the frame for the mag glass is metal  - Also a common feature on CAKs
The joint on the pliers is different from how it is today - But does look like the original plier joint
And of course the compass in the scales - Which Vic or Wenger never did!!

So overall .... KNOCK-OFF - Although potentially looks to be a reasonable one!
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: Huntsman on January 09, 2024, 06:01:08 AM
Can we take a moment to appreciate the hilariously mislabeled functions in the Amazon pics?  Two wire cutters! One of which is a terrible sewing awl. Tweezers that open wine bottles! Phillips head scissors! And at least 3 small knives!

Those really are hilarious - If you did not see it - You would not believe it
Can't work out whether my favourite is the tweezers that open wine bottles or  the Phillips head scisssors - Brilliant    :rofl:     :rofl:     :rofl:
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: Enginears on January 09, 2024, 06:16:55 AM
 I prefer my multitools with 3 small knives and phillips head scissors, I think I may have found my future EDC!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: IMR4198 on January 10, 2024, 03:28:27 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what a 'lead editor' is.   :dunno: G
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: IMR4198 on January 15, 2024, 06:36:43 PM
I never did figure out what a 'lead editor' was.  Best wishes.  G
 >:(
Title: Re: Mystery tool. Victorinox, Wenger, or knockoff?
Post by: AzteCypher on January 18, 2024, 04:26:23 PM
I recently ran into an older, scale-less CAK that impressed me a bit.  The saw was just a sliver of sheet metal so it was useless, and the corkscrew was weak, but the blades, can, and bottle opener were pretty decent.  Even the construction seemed good.  I held on to it to use for spare parts but, I might just try replacing the saw and the corkscrew as practice on it.