Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 17, 2017, 04:55:10 PM
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%281%29.jpg?m=1487344942)
I decided to give the Gerber Gorge folding shovel a bit of a workout and see just how much it was up for before it cried for mercy. As you can see in the above photo, we have a decent amount of snow, and I park my Jeep under the overhang of the landlord's garage. If you look closely, you can see there's not much clearance between the top of my Jeep and the overhang.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%282%29.jpg?m=1487344938)
There's only about four inches in between, which is bad when there's 4-6 inches of compacted snow and ice underneath- as I drive out I run the risk of damaging my fiber glass top and the overhang of the garage, and neither of those is a good thing. So, I need to dig out around my parking space so I don't have to keep parking as wide as you see in the above photo and annoying the guy who uses the space I am currently hanging over in. It's a serious job- I hope the Gorge is up to it, because all I have for a snow shovel is a pusher type with a plastic blade, and it is no good at all for chipping ice or packed snow! :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%283%29.jpg?m=1487344936)
It helps if you know how to use one of these small shovels- and yes, there is a technique to it. First off, you have t be on the ground. I find getting on my knees works best- at my age that is often painful, but luckily for now this job comes with built in ice packs, so I'm okay. :D
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%284%29.jpg?m=1487345007)
Once you are down, grab the shovel with both hands (one on the shaft, one on the end) and ram the blade down repeatedly into the snow and ice (or sand or dirt, whatever you are digging into) to break it up, then scoop it out with the shovel. It's actually very effective when used this way, and as you can see, it dug in quite deeply over and over again. The only drawback was that after repeatedly striking the hard ice, the hand that was over the butt of the shovel started to hurt.... but then what do you expect when you repeatedly hit something hard? It's not the shovel's fault, and in fact the shovel was up for a lot more, as the edge of the shovel didn't even get dinged, and at no point did it feel like it was going to break, collapse or fold. My bones were a different story! :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%286%29.jpg?m=1487344947)
As you can see, the Gorge was excellent at chiselling away a lot of hard packed snow, and I was able to clear a large area with relative ease. Yeah my hands hurt a bit, but kneeling allowed me to keep my back almost completely straight through the whole thing and so I am not as worn out as I could be after an activity like that.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%285%29.jpg?m=1487344947)
In fact, it is such an excellent Jeep accessory, it looks like the Jeep was built for it!
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2811%29.jpg?m=1487346029)
Since I'd only gotten some of the snow up and the ice was still underneath I figured I would put down some sand for traction, and again, the Gorge helped out nicely so I didn't have to get my hands dirty. You may not know this about me, but as I worked in a lot of restaurants in my younger days I am a compulsive hand washer, and I can't honestly tell you how much I appreciate an opportunity to not get too dirty... :facepalm:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2812%29.jpg?m=1487344965)
Now that I had some decent traction I could move the Jeep out of the spot and start cleaning up the sides of my parking space- and let me tell you, the hard work was just beginning! You can see from the above picture just how thick the ice was under the snow- and how solid. The ice was just over an inch thick, plus the hard packed snow on top. The only reason I managed to break the ice here is because it is right under where the hot engine is when I get home.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2815%29.jpg?m=1487344972)
After using the Gorge to break up the hard packed snow and some of the ice that would cooperate, this is the mess I was left with. I decided this was a good time to switch tp the pusher shovel, as moving several hundred pounds of snow with the tiny blade on the Gorge was far beyond the amount of sanity I had left for this job! :ahhh
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2816%29.jpg?m=1487344980)
Even with the pusher it was a bit of work to move it all, but it was a lot easier than the alternative! Once the broken up hard packed snow and ice chunks were moved you could get a sense for how deep the Gorge was able to dig.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2817%29.jpg?m=1487344980)
Not too shabby for a little folding shovel, is it? :pok:
Especially when you consider that every time it was thrust in, it hit some very hard and very unyeilding ice or, in some places, the frozen asphalt underneath. This little shovel is a beast in a very small and convenient package, and at no time during the process did I think it wasn't up to the task. Here's the finished space:
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Gerber/Gorge-Shovel/Gorge%20%2818%29.jpg?m=1487344983)
Not too shabby indeed! Congratulations Gerber, and thanks for making a shovel that is as tough as a Canadian Winter!
Def
Post by: Grathr on February 17, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
I used the triangle type in the Army, and digging foxxholes with those is no fun.
Now I have a older (ww2 style) surplus one with a longer wooden handle, wich is much better to use.
PS.
If you throw some salt on the ice/snow and let it work for a few minutes, breaking the ice is much easier. ;)
Post by: sLaughterMed on February 17, 2017, 05:08:41 PM
Post by: SteveC on February 17, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 17, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Well done! (Grant and Gerber)
I used the triangle type in the Army, and digging foxxholes with those is no fun.
Now I have a older (ww2 style) surplus one with a longer wooden handle, wich is much better to use.
PS.
If you throw some salt on the ice/snow and let it work for a few minutes, breaking the ice is much easier. ;)
Salt is only good to about -10, and it's colder than that here today- or at least it was when I was out this morning, waking up the neighbors... :P
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 17, 2017, 05:54:20 PM
That was a neat little review! You should do that again next week with another folding shovel, and see how they stack up. I think both SOG and Cold Steel make some, plus the army surplus type.
I have the SOG and Cold Steel ones too, so I imagine you will see them soon. In fact, here is a pic of Megan in the snow with the SOG entrenching tool from two years ago.
(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Camp-Stoves/Bio-Lite/20150228_122424.jpg?m=1426144458)
Here's the post (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54472.msg1051822.html#msg1051822) if you want to read it.
I have also used either the Gerber or the SOG (I can't recall which one) to dig a path through a pile of snow and ice left by a plow when I didn't have another shovel with me. It wasn't easy, but it worked.
Def
Post by: kkokkolis on February 17, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
Post by: Syncop8r on February 17, 2017, 09:30:54 PM
I don't suppose using hot water would be practical for a large area?
Post by: Poncho65 on February 17, 2017, 09:44:47 PM
Post by: styx on February 17, 2017, 10:03:53 PM
Post by: Kampfer on February 18, 2017, 01:15:10 AM
Allow me to give some inputs.
The tri-fold style shovels are great for carrying in pouch, but they are flimsy, uncomfortable and just too short to use.
Any folding shovels with screw/lock mechanism are not favorited, as it undone itself during usage due to vibration.
Anything "Mil-Spec" should be avoided, they are sub-standard.
Most if not all "SHTF zombie killing prepper" shovels have their own issues, some are too heavy, some are too much designed as a weapon and not function well as shovel, most are too expensive. The biggest problem of this type are they are made to make money off you, as they aren't really mean to be use.
Enter the Bundeswehr issue folding shovel.
This thing is awesome, well built, the locking mechanism allows quick deployment and secure lockup.
The steel is decent, I sharpen mine to a fine edge for chopping roots, surprisingly it held the edge quite well.
It comes with a pick, which is very handy when digging tough soil.
Size is just right, big enough to use and small enough to carry on belt, I dig my share of trenches with it, no complains really.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=70774.0;attach=305625;image)
This one is mine, customized, used, abused and standing by for more.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=70774.0;attach=305627;image)
There is another one on my SHTF load out, it is more useful than a pistol IMO.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=70774.0;attach=305633;image)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 18, 2017, 02:19:42 AM
Part of me occasionally wished I had the SOG since it also has the pick/spike on it, while this version of the Gerber shovel has a hammer, but in the end it isn't a good idea to use a tool at 90 degrees when chipping into ice askating the broken bits of ice fly back at your face and can be very dangerous.
Unfortunately I know that one first hand.
Def
Post by: Tomcat_81 on February 18, 2017, 10:11:30 AM
I ended up with the only GDR-built item I actually like, which has been digging, hacking and eating roots for years!
Tomcat
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Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 18, 2017, 01:16:10 PM
I've also been looking at metal detectors lately and I think I may get one at some point.
Def
Post by: Mattexian on February 18, 2017, 05:44:54 PM
From left to right, is the camper's shovel (unknown vintage), WW2 era Swiss, WW2 era US, Cold Steel.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/mattexian/knives/20170218_102608.jpg) (http://s16.photobucket.com/user/mattexian/media/knives/20170218_102608.jpg.html)
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Post by: Gareth on February 18, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 18, 2017, 07:53:20 PM
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 18, 2017, 08:53:36 PM
I've got a few different army-type shovels. The ones that can fold into a T-shape seem the most useful for me, hauling dirt up from a hole, like when burying a beloved pet. I had to help my mom the other day with this, and the red one on the far left (that I found at a flea market as a camper's shovel) was what I had in the car. It worked suprisingly well for the job, since I had also brought along a regular shovel to break up the soil, but that wasn't enough for cleaning out the hole. The folding shovel works great for scraping the dirt to fill the hole, just pulling it.
From left to right, is the camper's shovel (unknown vintage), WW2 era Swiss, WW2 era US, Cold Steel.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/mattexian/knives/20170218_102608.jpg) (http://s16.photobucket.com/user/mattexian/media/knives/20170218_102608.jpg.html)
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Sorry to hear that man. I have been down that road a few times myself and I feel for you.
Because ice is so brittle, using a shovel at 90 degrees to chip away at it causes the ice to shatter and fly at your face and trust me, that's not fun.
That certainly looks like a great test Boss, and a real workout. :o I keep a compact snow shovel in my car winter kit, but it is a plastic head and would be utterly useless against ice. Time to upgrade perhaps? :think:
Yes. At a mere $25 it is well worth it.
Def
Post by: Tomcat_81 on February 18, 2017, 09:40:29 PM
That does look interesting but it also looks a bit flimsy at the junction of the handle and spade. I am not sure I could ever bring myself to use it that hard.
I've also been looking at metal detectors lately and I think I may get one at some point.
Def
That's what I thought - the flimsy part in the middle is solid (and, surprisingly, even though of GDR make, well-tempered) steel. I've literally tried to break that thing (not wanting to admit that this little piece of "real existing soSmurfpillsm" would outlast my career as a detectorist. ;-)
Quite a hobby by the way, relaxing, outdoors, quite sporty and a bit o surprise included ;-)
Tomcat
Post by: Kampfer on February 18, 2017, 09:42:09 PM
but I think the ultimate one is by crovel,I had that one, not good.
Crovel is a fine example of something that looks good on paper, but doesn't work in hand.
1st, overall is too heavy to carry.
2nd, Balance is horrible. You have a hammer hanging in the back when you use the shovel or have a shovel hanging in the back of you hammer. Just very clumsy. Not to mention the crowbar keep stabbing you when digging.
3rd, Lots functions but none really works well.
4th, just too expensive.
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 18, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
What about the 2nd one?but I think the ultimate one is by crovel,I had that one, not good.
Crovel is a fine example of something that looks good on paper, but doesn't work in hand.
1st, overall is too heavy to carry.
2nd, Balance is horrible. You have a hammer hanging in the back when you use the shovel or have a shovel hanging in the back of you hammer. Just very clumsy. Not to mention the crowbar keep stabbing you when digging.
3rd, Lots functions but none really works well.
4th, just too expensive.
JR
Post by: Kampfer on February 18, 2017, 09:51:34 PM
?What about the 2nd one?but I think the ultimate one is by crovel,I had that one, not good.
Crovel is a fine example of something that looks good on paper, but doesn't work in hand.
1st, overall is too heavy to carry.
2nd, Balance is horrible. You have a hammer hanging in the back when you use the shovel or have a shovel hanging in the back of you hammer. Just very clumsy. Not to mention the crowbar keep stabbing you when digging.
3rd, Lots functions but none really works well.
4th, just too expensive.
JR
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 18, 2017, 10:02:34 PM
This one..?What about the 2nd one?but I think the ultimate one is by crovel,I had that one, not good.
Crovel is a fine example of something that looks good on paper, but doesn't work in hand.
1st, overall is too heavy to carry.
2nd, Balance is horrible. You have a hammer hanging in the back when you use the shovel or have a shovel hanging in the back of you hammer. Just very clumsy. Not to mention the crowbar keep stabbing you when digging.
3rd, Lots functions but none really works well.
4th, just too expensive.
JR
JR
Post by: Kampfer on February 18, 2017, 10:04:58 PM
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 18, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
That is the one I was commenting on.Oh, cause I like the first setup better, that's why I made mine that way.
JR
Post by: Kampfer on February 18, 2017, 10:11:22 PM
MT, most the time you use to cut one thing, turn one screw, etc and done.
Shovel, other than burying your human waste, any digging tasks could take up 5 minutes minimum.
It is no easy task, so if it is uncomfortable to use, you will be in a lot of pain.
Post by: jcs0001 on March 09, 2017, 01:37:17 AM
Several weeks ago we were parked in town and came across a lady who had pulled her car into a snowbank on the side of the street and got stuck. My wife and I attempted to help her by pushing however her idea of getting out was to use as much spinning of tires as possible. Eventually with a third fellow pushing we were able to get her back on the street. I was a bit concerned about getting run over in the process and when I saw Grant's (chief facilitator) article about the shovel, decided I needed one. One cannot of course put a price on safety >:D
As a result I am now the proud owner of a 1944 US army shovel and a German army shovel complete with pick and leather "scabbard". The German shovel was obtained by way of my favourite local army surplus store - I know the owner and he searched through his stock to find it for me. My camera battery died so I have only one photo (and yes my deck railing needs paint :rant:).
(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa327/jcs0001/IMG_0006_12.jpg)
John.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 09, 2017, 01:56:35 AM
Seriously, I have had my doubts about these kinds of shovels in the past and thought they weren't good for much more than sand or soft soil, but thy keep issuing them to the military so I figured there must be something to it. Not that Milspec is always a good thing.... :ahhh
When it came to the Gorge I had pretty well expected to hurt my hand at some point when it failed, so I was wearing some heavy leather, padded work gloves.
In the end the only reason my hands hurt was from repeated pounding, not from the shovel failing. At least as far as the Gorge is concerned, I'm a believer.
Def
Post by: JP on March 09, 2017, 02:13:22 AM
The forum members are facilitators - I just spent more money on a couple of shovels because of you people :DNevermind the paint. What you need is an adult beverage. That would look better in the pic. 😉
Several weeks ago we were parked in town and came across a lady who had pulled her car into a snowbank on the side of the street and got stuck. My wife and I attempted to help her by pushing however her idea of getting out was to use as much spinning of tires as possible. Eventually with a third fellow pushing we were able to get her back on the street. I was a bit concerned about getting run over in the process and when I saw Grant's (chief facilitator) article about the shovel, decided I needed one. One cannot of course put a price on safety >:D
As a result I am now the proud owner of a 1944 US army shovel and a German army shovel complete with pick and leather "scabbard". The German shovel was obtained by way of my favourite local army surplus store - I know the owner and he searched through his stock to find it for me. My camera battery died so I have only one photo (and yes my deck railing needs paint :rant:).
(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa327/jcs0001/IMG_0006_12.jpg)
John.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 09, 2017, 02:25:09 AM
Def
Post by: Gareth on March 09, 2017, 09:01:28 AM
Not my pic, but you get the idea.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/Williamstools/seven%20seats/DSC05232.jpg)
Post by: firiki on March 10, 2017, 11:21:49 AM
I also keep a mat in the trunk now.
Post by: Smashie on March 10, 2017, 12:43:13 PM
After both my front wheels got stuck in a dune, I got a Glock entrenching tool. I haven't really tested it yet but I tried it a little and it works well and feels quite solid.
I also keep a mat in the trunk now.
I've got a small folding shovel in the car and I don't think I've ever had to use it
Post by: jcs0001 on March 11, 2017, 01:58:20 AM
John.
Post by: Smashie on March 11, 2017, 02:02:45 AM
Smashie - if you have the kind of luck I have, the day you leave it at home will be the day you need it.
John.
That's why I have a big winch. not much sand or snow here so in mud the winch is the way to go lol
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2017, 03:20:02 AM
Smashie - if you have the kind of luck I have, the day you leave it at home will be the day you need it.
John.
You too huh?
:facepalm:
Smashie - if you have the kind of luck I have, the day you leave it at home will be the day you need it.
John.
That's why I have a big winch. not much sand or snow here so in mud the winch is the way to go lol
Assuming you can find something to winch off of. It's always a bit of an embarrassment when you have to explain to a neighbor how his car ended up in a hold with your Defender!
A friend of mine with a Jeep like mine, but lifted, thought he would play a joke on one of his paintball friends. When the other guy was distracted, my friend snuck up and hooked his Jeep winch cable to the other guys FJ Cruiser then snuck back to his Jeep. Using the winch remote he attempted to look as innocent as possible then started reeling in the cable.
Both vehicles were on ice at the time, but the FJ weighs a lot more than the JKU, and the Jeep started crawling across the lot towards the FJ. The FJ owner looked up and saw the Jeep coming towards him, with my friend laughing his ass off so hard that he dropped the remote.
Low speed collision with both vehicles in Park and neither engine running....
Def
Post by: styx on March 11, 2017, 09:35:51 AM
After both my front wheels got stuck in a dune, I got a Glock entrenching tool. I haven't really tested it yet but I tried it a little and it works well and feels quite solid.
I also keep a mat in the trunk now.
Glock e-tool is one of the best on the market
Post by: firiki on March 17, 2017, 12:03:39 PM
After both my front wheels got stuck in a dune, I got a Glock entrenching tool. I haven't really tested it yet but I tried it a little and it works well and feels quite solid.
I also keep a mat in the trunk now.
Glock e-tool is one of the best on the market
I should think so, if it's half as tough as their
The design is well thought out. For instance I dig (pun intended) the groove in the spade's middle; it allows the whole to become even more compact when folded but, more importantly, it helps remove more material with each stroke.
The added woodsaw is nice to have on it's own right, the fact it doubles as a lever or screwdriver to help tighten the knob is just great.
Post by: firiki on March 17, 2017, 12:30:22 PM
After both my front wheels got stuck in a dune, I got a Glock entrenching tool. I haven't really tested it yet but I tried it a little and it works well and feels quite solid.
I also keep a mat in the trunk now.
I've got a small folding shovel in the car and I don't think I've ever had to use it
Ahh, but you drive an off-road beast with a winch ;) I drive a 1.4lt essence Citroen C4.
I wasn't really off-roadind when we got stuck in that dune. It was on a dirt road inside a pine forest on the way to the beach. My car can handle a dry dirt road but I had to make way for another car to pass and I didn't realise there was an actual dune on my right.
I had to ask my wife to keep pressing on the hood as I couldn't find large enough rocks and we got out eventually but had I been able to remove enough sand quickly we'd be out much easier. That's where I decided I needed a folding shovel.
I'd been meaning to get one anyway and hope I never have to use it for an emergency. There are a few cases where one might be needed, summer fires for example. It could be used to put out a fire or clear the area of combustible material.
In conclusion, a folding shovel is one of the tools I feel belongs in a car's trunk :)
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 19, 2017, 01:12:45 PM
Def
Post by: Smashie on March 19, 2017, 01:21:21 PM
I agree with that completely even if you aren't an off roader. There has not been a winter in my adult life that I haven't had to help push a car out of the snow, and I can't help but feel that these people may have been able to solve their own issues if they'd been able to dig it away from the wheels a little bit.
Def
Or ever carry a couple of bits of old carpet, works wonder
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 19, 2017, 01:55:48 PM
Def
Post by: Don Pablo on March 19, 2017, 02:39:00 PM
This is Multitool.org- carry both. :DOr all. :ahhh
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 20, 2017, 01:06:53 AM
Mind you, there wasn't nearly as much heavy pounding as I subjected the Gerber to, but still it came in extremely handy.
Def
Post by: Syncop8r on August 02, 2017, 11:34:45 PM
Mind you, there wasn't nearly as much heavy pounding as I subjected the Gerber to, but still it came in extremely handy.
pfrsantos should be along shortly....
Post by: Sea Monster on September 06, 2020, 02:14:46 AM
I just used one of these dicky things to dig...ten holes.
It did the job well enough, I suppose, but whatever one I have is missing something in the "shock absorbing" department. Every hit on anything other than soft loam went strait up for my forearms, and finished at my teeth.
(I would have used a "Real" shovel, but thanks to the Plague, I am currently somewhat separated from my things - and I have no interest in being the man who walked five hundred miles to be the man who walked five hundred miles to be arrested and detained for breaching our new and improved state borders, now with ∞% more police patrols and armed thugs than ever before in my country's history....)
Now, the holes are dug, and I don't many more planned, so going out to buy a new shovel *now* is a bit pointless.
However, for something to while the sweat cools on my back, I decided to do some internet searching....and I was NOT disappointed!
Look at this bloody thing! It's insane! It's ridiculous! It's just silly!
https://zunelotoo.com/product
Post by: cody6268 on September 06, 2020, 02:25:19 AM
Not my pic, but you get the idea.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/Williamstools/seven%20seats/DSC05232.jpg)
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I have one of those, a True Temper. Much better to use than any of my folding shovels. Cheaper too.
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2020, 08:27:08 AM
It rained heavily when we arrived and both our spots turned into puddles.
Some time later, a thunderstorm passed over.
My dad prepared his spot by using his folding shovel and made a 1cm/0.5inch chanel in the sand from his spot down to the lane.
Sure enough, when the storm passed you could see the water flow through his chanel and they stayed feet-dry.
Post by: pomsbz on September 06, 2020, 09:17:31 AM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 06, 2020, 10:36:25 AM
And as such, I wonder if anyone makes a good full-size folding shovel? :think:
Not useful for soldiers, because it's as heavy as a full size shovel with a bit extra (for the folding mechanism). But you can put it in a bag so your shopping stays clean! :tu:
Post by: Sea Monster on September 06, 2020, 10:39:40 AM
A car trunk isn't really weight limited, but more space limited. :think: can't put your shopping in there if it's full of dirty shovels. :D
And as such, I wonder if anyone makes a good full-size folding shovel? :think:
Not useful for soldiers, because it's as heavy as a full size shovel with a bit extra (for the folding mechanism). But you can put it in a bag so your shopping stays clean! :tu:
On imagines you could replace the handle on some of the existing options with a longer one...You may still have an undersized "head" but at least you've got more leverage and heft....
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2020, 10:51:12 AM
Driving 1000km with a shovel in the trunk just because you might have to make an inch wide gap over a distance of 4m doesn't make any sense, size/weight to use ratio wise.
Where do you draw te line? Instead of a small axe, take a full size one.
Instead of a folding chair, take a comfy one from the dining room :D you'll end up taking the kitchen sink, without room to spare for some fresh underwear.
Post by: Sea Monster on September 06, 2020, 11:05:38 AM
Depends on the use obviously.
Driving 1000km with a shovel in the trunk just because you might have to make an inch wide gap over a distance of 4m doesn't make any sense, size/weight to use ratio wise.
Where do you draw te line? Instead of a small axe, take a full size one.
Instead of a folding chair, take a comfy one from the dining room :D you'll end up taking the kitchen sink, without room to spare for some fresh underwear.
You have a problem, consumerism has an solution: https://inteletool.myshopify.com/
It looks neat, in a "Senior year technology project" kinda way - it does appear to be silly expensive though, I could probably just buy a box trailer to carry my tools in for the cost of a single telescopic handle and a selection of tool heads from these guys....
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2020, 11:06:59 AM
You have a problem, consumerism has an solution: https://inteletool.myshopify.com/Yup! That's it! :D
Post by: Sea Monster on September 06, 2020, 11:21:38 AM
Although what led me there was their adjustable handle range (https://www.fiskars.eu/products/gardening/shovels-spades/smartfit-telescopic-garden-edging-planting-spade-1000620)
Fiskars have gone to the next logical step - a shovel that FLOATS
https://www.fiskars.eu/products/gardening/shovels-spades/safety-camping-car-spade-1001574
NOW we're getting somewhere!
Need to dig a hole in the WATER?! Look no further!
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2020, 04:23:23 PM
NOW we're getting somewhere!
Need to dig a hole in the WATER?! Look no further!
Obviously that's because it can also serve perfectly as an oar
Post by: Edi on September 15, 2020, 10:25:07 AM
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Post by: Nix on September 24, 2020, 03:19:44 PM
Keep it in the truck in winter. Have one handy for trips on rough roads and trails. Use it out ice fishing every trip.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on September 29, 2020, 02:26:50 AM
Def
Post by: Gareth on September 29, 2020, 12:54:50 PM
This thread cost me some money as well. ::) I decided to go down a slightly different path and got myself a compact shovel rather than a folding one.
Not my pic, but you get the idea.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/Williamstools/seven%20seats/DSC05232.jpg)
a few years on now and I can't regret getting this little shovel. Used it once to get myself out of some axle deep snow and once to help out someone else in the same predicament. I guess a folding version would have been fine too, but I still like the fact I'm 100% confident that I can smash this into solid ice with no chance of it failing.
Post by: MadPlumbarian on September 29, 2020, 05:50:15 PM
Oh oh, the neighbor was complaining about some funky plant that has been growing up the dividing fence, and it comes up on my side so he asked if I could do something, so I used it to saw and rip most of it, then dig as far down to try and chisel up as much of the roots as I could,
Hey shovel worked, kinda funny how you can’t remember something as short as yesterday, yet other things as clear as day years ago,,
JR
Post by: Nix on October 02, 2020, 06:51:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XmFsBQM.jpg)
A very convenient way to move coals onto the rim of the oven.
(https://i.imgur.com/0rolWdW.jpg)
Winner, winner! Cornbread for dinner! :ahhh
(https://i.imgur.com/NYes12k.jpg)
Post by: Nix on October 02, 2020, 06:53:29 PM
I keep a Cold Steel shovel in the trunk of my Jeep. It's rock solid and I like not having to worry about moving parts failing.
Def
A very handy shovel, those Cold Steels. I have one in the Jeep. Used it for some garden work the other day. Better be sure to clean and replace it before the Fall snows arrive..... :rofl: