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Title: SAK Selector link
Post by: I'm Still Bison on July 28, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
 Since there tends to be  a good bit of requests about specific SAK's and features, we're going to sticky a link to the SAK selector on Swiss Army Knights:

http://www.swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 28, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
Bloody good idea Bob :cheers:
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Tarrodemierda on July 28, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
if only i could get it work.no matter what i put in as my needs,it says"nope,nada"
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 28, 2008, 03:32:22 PM
if only i could get it work.no matter what i put in as my needs,it says"nope,nada"
It'll only work if there's a sak with those tool's, try droping a couple of tool's and trying again mate :)
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Tarrodemierda on July 28, 2008, 03:36:03 PM
i did it a couple times,went thru all spots and i didnt mark any 46585659 tools to it,just a few,and what,not a damn thing again.is there some hidden"show me the result"button there or is it suppose to automatically show the sak of my wet dreams somehow?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 28, 2008, 03:37:12 PM
i did it a couple times,went thru all spots and i didnt mark any 46585659 tools to it,just a few,and what,not a damn thing again.is there some hidden"show me the result"button there or is it suppose to automatically show the sak of my wet dreams somehow?
Hmm, pm me your tool list and I'll have a go for you later mate (got to clear off now) :)
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Sea Monster on October 05, 2008, 02:29:43 AM
Is there any liklihood of the glorious SAK Selector being updated with latest & greatest models?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 05, 2008, 02:40:20 AM
I doubt it... the gentleman who originally built it has been MIA for some time.

Def
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 05, 2008, 09:24:53 AM
Is there any liklihood of the glorious SAK Selector being updated with latest & greatest models?
There is however this sitr you can use...
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=550&lang=E
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: bquinlan on September 28, 2009, 05:09:18 AM
I doubt it... the gentleman who originally built it has been MIA for some time.

Def

Actually, I'm still around, just a lot busier with other things than I used to be.

I do try to add new models when I run across them or when someone emails to let me know about them.  Please send me update info whenever you run across something.

At some point I intend to do a major rewrite.  I want to clean up the interface and make it practical for others to add and edit entries.

Also, if anyone wants a direct link you can just use http://sakselector.info/.

  --Bob Q
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: bquinlan on September 28, 2009, 05:10:37 AM
i did it a couple times,went thru all spots and i didnt mark any 46585659 tools to it,just a few,and what,not a damn thing again.is there some hidden"show me the result"button there or is it suppose to automatically show the sak of my wet dreams somehow?

Did you hit the "Select" button in the upper left?  That's what tells it to show you the results once you've checked a few boxes.

  --Bob Q
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: WhichDawg on March 24, 2011, 03:10:58 PM
why does this selector say the Farmer is 93mm and every place else (like original sak site) say 91mm?

am I in the twilight zone?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Sazabi on March 24, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
why does this selector say the Farmer is 93mm and every place else (like original sak site) say 91mm?

am I in the twilight zone?

The "91mm" alox SAKs (including the Farmer) are actually 93mm in length, despite Victorinox' claim that it's only 91mm.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Mr. Whippy on March 24, 2011, 03:21:22 PM
Alox tools are actually 93mm in length, although so places lump them in with 91mm Cellidor models.

Alox models come as 58mm, 84mm and 93mm.
Cellidor as 58mm, 74mm, 84mm and 91mm

(In the Vic lineup)

Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: WhichDawg on March 24, 2011, 03:28:26 PM
thx but they can't say it's this when it's that!  >:(

like wood and 2 by 4's! they used to be that but not anymore 1-1/2 by 3-1/2 :rant:

so when I pay for a Farmer now, I'll just give them a percentage of what they ask! :D
(hands over 29 dollars) "no it's really 30 dollars!"
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Landrew on January 19, 2013, 05:43:13 PM
thx but they can't say it's this when it's that!  >:(

like wood and 2 by 4's! they used to be that but not anymore 1-1/2 by 3-1/2 :rant:

so when I pay for a Farmer now, I'll just give them a percentage of what they ask! :D
(hands over 29 dollars) "no it's really 30 dollars!"
Doesn't 91 mm refer to the scales, not the knife itself?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: KTesh on February 14, 2013, 08:34:00 AM
Now if I could only stick the link to the 91mm Tools Evolution (http://"http://victorinox.saam007.com/91mmtools.php") page somewhere that I could find it again quickly...   :whistle:
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: enki_ck on February 14, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
Now if I could only stick the link to the 91mm Tools Evolution (http://"http://victorinox.saam007.com/91mmtools.php") page somewhere that I could find it again quickly...   :whistle:

Try Ctrl + D.  :P
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: bquinlan on February 15, 2013, 03:46:52 AM
Now if I could only stick the link to the 91mm Tools Evolution (http://"http://victorinox.saam007.com/91mmtools.php") page somewhere that I could find it again quickly...   :whistle:

enki_ck is right.  One of the advantages of the rather crude method I used when I built the tool is that everything is stored in the URL.  So if you bookmark a page you will always come back to that exact page.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: sLaughterMed on September 09, 2015, 06:57:03 PM
is it just me, or is the sak selector (both through SOSAK and the direct sakselector.info link) broken?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: enki_ck on September 09, 2015, 07:06:46 PM
is it just me, or is the sak selector (both through SOSAK and the direct sakselector.info link) broken?

Hm, Whoey must be working on something.

You can use this link in the meantime. 

http://www.swissarmyknights.com/cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: sLaughterMed on September 09, 2015, 07:42:04 PM
Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Whoey on October 03, 2015, 12:58:08 PM
I am actually not currently working on it, but the original creator/maintainer decided to step away from the project, and he graciously passed the source files on to us. We are in the process of migrating the domain to our platform, so in the meantime please use the http://www.swissarmyknights.com/cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi link.

We are hoping to do even more with it in the near future, including some much needed updating to the database.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Little Tinker on August 23, 2016, 10:51:42 PM
Having thought I'd lost my vintage Black Climber :cry: I stumbled across the Selector while pondering what to replace it with.  After also finding SAKWik.com I realised the Selector was a bit out of date, so I snarfed  the 91mm and 84mm Victorinox layer / tool info from SAK Wiki into Excel to give me a more complete picture of possibilities.  Having done that I ought to be able to construct it into something that is easily loaded into the Selector so that Wiki and Selector are more consistent for those knives (the OCD part of me would also like to tidy up the 'flexibility' of tool descriptions on the Wiki, but that's another story...).

Does anyone have examples of what the Selector runs from so that I can prepare suitable updates, assuming there is a broader desire to update it  ??? ?

And since we all love a happy ending  :): I found the late-80s Climber that I feared was lost, but the whole saga of looking at the range in more detail that I have for 25+ years has left me thinking that I need an additional knife to fill a gap in my SAK capability anyway, so the above research is paying off  ;).
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: enki_ck on September 04, 2016, 05:41:14 PM
I'll address the sakselektor question when I'm a bit more awake. ;)

Shall we pick that up in the sticky-ed thread  :pok:?

I don't have the keys to the room where we keep the SAKselektor, and don't have the knowledge to do the coding either. ;) I did mention all the hard work you did to the folks who do and hopefully when Whoey finds more free time to do all this he'll be able to help you go forward with this. :salute:
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Little Tinker on September 04, 2016, 09:08:31 PM
I don't have the keys to the room where we keep the SAKselektor, and don't have the knowledge to do the coding either. ;) I did mention all the hard work you did to the folks who do and hopefully when Whoey finds more free time to do all this he'll be able to help you go forward with this. :salute:

Cool.  I think it'd be nice to get it updated for the benefit of all - I effectively have my own private improved version at the mo  :o.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Whoey on September 05, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
The current version (which we inherited from the sakselector creator) is a CGI script which pulls data from a CSV file. I have an XLS version of the CSV for updates, as it's a massive PITA to go back and forth due to the amount of data. We had hoped to rebuild it in PHP with a MYSQL database and some further sort of easier to update interface, but alas there's always 50 other things that need taking care of first. Updates would be great, the data in the file is pretty extensive with 120 options per SAK model with approximately 310 models included, with obviously some gaps in the data, and it's far out of date (it was never updated by us since we inherited it).

If you have some corrections/additions etc let me know and I'll make an effort to integrate them.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Poncho65 on September 06, 2016, 12:15:59 AM
Sounds exciting for the Selector :dd:

:popcorn:
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Little Tinker on September 06, 2016, 12:35:36 AM
The current version (which we inherited from the sakselector creator) is a CGI script which pulls data from a CSV file. I have an XLS version of the CSV for updates, as it's a massive PITA to go back and forth due to the amount of data. We had hoped to rebuild it in PHP with a MYSQL database and some further sort of easier to update interface, but alas there's always 50 other things that need taking care of first. Updates would be great, the data in the file is pretty extensive with 120 options per SAK model with approximately 310 models included, with obviously some gaps in the data, and it's far out of date (it was never updated by us since we inherited it).

If you have some corrections/additions etc let me know and I'll make an effort to integrate them.

If you're happy to send the files over I'll see if I can produce updated versions.  Or maybe provide a subset to show what is needed?  Alternatively, I can try and describe the changes in a way that you can apply.

Any reason the data files can't be on the Wiki so that everyone can at least propose changes, and some be given permission to edit?  Then copy / paste to selector app?

Would it benefit from putting the data into an Excel structure where VLOOKUP() and the like can be used to create a consistent data set, then a bit of VBA to squirt out refreshed CSV files to move to the web server? 

EDIT - Thinks / lightbulb: Which is pretty much what I have for the SAK Wiki tables we've been refining, so maybe it's just another output from that...  But we ought to have a shared database which can be maintained by multiple folk.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Whoey on September 06, 2016, 05:01:16 PM
Some things are in motion, lets see how this goes, we may actually update the entire thing to be easier to edit/add new items.

So rather than get ahead of ourselves we'll see if this works out, then get into updating the data.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 29, 2018, 11:26:04 PM
Whatever happend to updating the SAK selector? It's broken now, it doesn't display anything. There's no submit button visible, and no knives are ever displayed.

Charles.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: ddogu on May 30, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
It does work on the computer I'm working at. Configuration: Macos El Capitan, using Chrome.
And this is the link http://www.swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector

Tried emptying the cache/cookies, if you're on a computer?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: tritrek on April 23, 2021, 10:35:00 AM
OK, latest SW, that is:
- MacBook, macOS 11.2.3 (20D91) Big Sur,
- Chrome Version 89.0.4389.128 (Official Build) (x86_64) (or any other browser)
- cache cleared, etc... the iframe doesn't load:
https://www.swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector (https://www.swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector)

(https://i.imgur.com/FQiUD4F.png)

Same on Win10 64-bit...
It's the page not us...
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Reinier on April 23, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
Remove the www. then it works: https://swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector
Or this, open the .cgi directly: https://swissarmyknights.com/cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: tritrek on April 24, 2021, 09:17:03 AM
Remove the www. then it works: https://swissarmyknights.com/sak-selector
Or this, open the .cgi directly: https://swissarmyknights.com/cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi
Thanks! Has anyone contacted them regarding this bug?
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: Reinier on April 24, 2021, 11:02:21 AM
Thanks! Has anyone contacted them regarding this bug?

I know I haven't. But Whoey may read this thread.

Technically it's not a bug, it's just a security feature in all modern browsers, but it is something that should be fixed server-side. My suggestion: force all traffic to the non-www URL. In that case, including the SAK Selector page in an iframe like it is now should work and it's also better from a SEO point of view. Because currently all content on swissarmyknights.com is available on at least 2 different URLs.

Alternatively the iframe source could just be the relative URL /cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi (so, no protocol, no domain name). That should work as well.
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: tritrek on April 25, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
I know I haven't. But Whoey may read this thread.

Technically it's not a bug, it's just a security feature in all modern browsers, but it is something that should be fixed server-side. My suggestion: force all traffic to the non-www URL. In that case, including the SAK Selector page in an iframe like it is now should work and it's also better from a SEO point of view. Because currently all content on swissarmyknights.com is available on at least 2 different URLs.

Alternatively the iframe source could just be the relative URL /cgi-bin/sak_selector.cgi (so, no protocol, no domain name). That should work as well.

Right... and that's a coding bug :) Loose coding... nothing lethal just causing headaches to us and basically crippling their own page...
Title: Re: SAK Selector link
Post by: enki_ck on April 25, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
I posted a link for Whoey, hopefully it will be fixed soon