Post by: Buzzbait on May 31, 2019, 04:04:06 PM
We also decided that our primary tool would be the SwissChamp. I presented her with maybe five or six different possible Swiss Army and scout knives for the trip, and she absolutely loved the SwissChamp. The magnifier was a huge hit, as was the wood saw and file. The scissors and punch and chisel were also highly valued by her. She seemed to handle the knife well enough in her small but strong thirteen year-old hands. So she'll be carrying either my ultra-traditional red handled SwissChamp with plastic magnifier and stainless steel file, or a much older SwissChamp with glass magnifier and case hardened file, that I made custom orange G-10 covers for. I'm kind leaning toward the orange SwissChamp, as I'm uncertain how well the plastic magnifier lens and cellidor scales will hold up to me spraying her down with DEET insect repellent every five minutes.
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I took the opportunity to purchase a new SwissChamp for myself, and have one of the newer models with custom Warthog covers on the way. There's a chance that I'll have time to remove those covers, and make a set of custom natural canvas micarta covers for it.
(https://i.imgur.com/bOBG2hVl.png)
I strongly considered new SOS kits, as I've always wanted one, but couldn't justify the price tag. I already have a few leather and canvas SwissChamp pouches, and we already have survival kits in small otterboxes that we keep in out daypacks. I don't think I could get her to wear a pants belt either for the SOS pouch.
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So how good is the newest iteration of the SwissChamp, in comparison to older models? I always liked the construction of the old glass magnifier, but actually preferred using the plastic lens magnifier, because it provided a wider area to view, and didn't distort around the edges as bad. I'm not certain what the new glass lens is like, and how sturdy it is.
I assume that the file is unchanged from my red SwissChamp? I think the stainless file is far more aggressive, and probably more useful for projects, although I'll miss the old case hardened file for doing my fingernails on the fine side.
Is DEET really an issue with the plastic magnifier lens? What about DEET and the graphics on the Warthog scales?
Any input you have would be greatly appreciated. I'd really like to nail down all of the fine details as far ahead of schedule as possible.
I also have a black Swisschamp. But I think I want to leave that in mint condition for my collection.
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Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 04:17:24 PM
While I don't have any problems with deet I am leaning towards more natural means of repellent. Lemon Eucalyptus oil has worked pretty well for me and has not shown any effects on my scales.
I'd imagine what residual deet was on your hands if any wouldn't be an issue.
Post by: Exeter on May 31, 2019, 04:29:54 PM
And that orange Swisschamp is just gorgeous, excellent work with the G10, really, hats off, and I mean it! :hatsoff:
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 04:35:27 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 04:43:04 PM
Though it has been known to pop out... Keep an eye when you deploy it!
The new stainless steel metal file lasts much longer, and rusts less easily, than the old one. :tu:
Maybe you can still file your nails with it, if you go very gently? :think:
Or you can get a keychain SAK with a smoother nailfile and put it on your keys. :tu:
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 05:38:56 PM
But I hear it's safe to use on your skin. :o
(In harsh insect country, I douse my self liberally with DEET. I also recommend treating clothing with Permethrin in advance. Better DEET exposure than Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever or Equine Encephalitis. )
Post by: VICMAN on May 31, 2019, 06:36:27 PM
You will be making memories that will last a life time. :D
The SwissChamp is an excellent choice. I have carried one since they first came out.
I am a big fan of the newer metal file/saw, however, I have had the newer magnifier lens fall out 4 times on 3 different SwissChamps (twice on one and once each on the other 2, I have never had a lens fall out of the older gray frame magnifier. Because of that I would lean toward Abby using the orange SwissChamp, or if she uses the newer one to just pay close attention to the lens when opening and closing it.
I don't have any experience with using DEET so I cannot give any advice on it.
I think you will have a wonderful adventure with your daughter and wife! :cheers:
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on May 31, 2019, 06:55:50 PM
About DEET, I would go for a Swisschamp with a glass magnifier lens, since I've seen the effect of DEET on things like a screenprotector for my camera (you know, those transparant foil protector thing's you put on a screen from a smartphone or camera), half of it got blurred with only one stupid swipe from a fingertip which made contact with DEET some time before. I've seen the same thing happen to the protective cover for my Garmin GPS map60csx...
DEET has some powerfull destructive capabilities, and I try to use more natural stuff, like Aloha said.
Post by: comis on May 31, 2019, 07:23:38 PM
Looks like a great way to spend some time with your family mate, it's those kind of adventures that make for the best memories later.
About DEET, I would go for a Swisschamp with a glass magnifier lens, since I've seen the effect of DEET on things like a screenprotector for my camera (you know, those transparant foil protector thing's you put on a screen from a smartphone or camera), half of it got blurred with only one stupid swipe from a fingertip which made contact with DEET some time before. I've seen the same thing happen to the protective cover for my Garmin GPS map60csx...
DEET has some powerfull destructive capabilities, and I try to use more natural stuff, like Aloha said.
I too am a victim of DEET destruction, long ago I was taking photo at Grand Teton NP, and I vividly remembered how my Intervalometer(kinda remote control shutter + timer) literally melt in my hand like chocolate. It was crazy, and I frantically had to wipe it down with water, worrying it might be ruined. Luckily, I acted fast enough and the case of the inervalometer 'harden' again.
Nowadays, I use picaridin whenever I have it, instead of DEET, because it just melt anything and everything. :ahhh
Anyhow, back to OP's swisschamp plan of use:
What a wonderful gift and a great trip ahead, I wish nothing but the best of time for you two. And I am sure, from now on, whenever she look upon a swisschamp, she will always remember the good time she had with you! Btw, I foresee a new young member joining us in not so distant future... :D :tu:
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 31, 2019, 08:19:34 PM
Post by: Myron on June 01, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
With regard to insect repellents and their ability to dissolve plastic, I've always assumed it was the solvent (some alcohol) and not the solute (the DEET itself) that had this effect. And obviously some plastics are immune, since the product itself comes in a plastic bottle. Although I'm not an expert, I live in a West Nile Virus state and a Lyme Disease state, and every study I've ever read still concludes that the only repellent that is proven effective for mosquitoes and ticks is DEET.
I look forward to hearing about your adventures and to seeing some more beautiful pictures from your trip. Good luck!
Myron
Post by: Buzzbait on June 02, 2019, 06:29:11 PM
I did a test on some old Vic scales, and the cellidor is definitely an issue with the DEET. So I’ve purchased some replacement scales. Nylon is not supposed to be reactive with DEET, so I’ve put an old economy line Vic Climber on order, so I can test out the ecoline nylon scales. I’ve also made a deal with the devil, and placed some G-10 scales on order. None of the replacement scales are “plus” scales, so I’ll be losing the pen and pin, but the trade off in durability seems worth the loss. I’ll report back on how I make out with the new scale options.
The new Warthog SwissChamp should arrive tomorrow. The plan is to EDC it for the next couple weeks, using various carry methods, to see what works out best. I have a few belt sheaths to try out, and a number of lanyards and belt hangers as well. It’s entirely possible that my daughter will end up using a fanny pack of some sort, since she rarely if ever uses a belt, and often wears girl’s shorts with no pockets whatsoever.
Post by: Don Pablo on June 02, 2019, 06:39:35 PM
Post by: VICMAN on June 02, 2019, 07:24:54 PM
Thank you everybody, for your kind replies.I’m still pondering how we’re going to pull this off as successfully as possible. I’m now leaning toward having my daughter using my custom orange G-10 Swisschamp with the old style glass magnifier, and me using the black SwissChamp with old style glass magnifier.
I did a test on some old Vic scales, and the cellidor is definitely an issue with the DEET. So I’ve purchased some replacement scales. Nylon is not supposed to be reactive with DEET, so I’ve put an old economy line Vic Climber on order, so I can test out the ecoline nylon scales. I’ve also made a deal with the devil, and placed some G-10 scales on order. None of the replacement scales are “plus” scales, so I’ll be losing the pen and pin, but the trade off in durability seems worth the loss. I’ll report back on how I make out with the new scale options.
The new Warthog SwissChamp should arrive tomorrow. The plan is to EDC it for the next couple weeks, using various carry methods, to see what works out best. I have a few belt sheaths to try out, and a number of lanyards and belt hangers as well. It’s entirely possible that my daughter will end up using a fanny pack of some sort, since she rarely if ever uses a belt, and often wears girl’s shorts with no pockets whatsoever.
Sounds like the nylon scales should do the trick! :cheers:
That Warthog SwissChamp is a cool looking SAK! :like::tu: :tu:
Post by: Aloha on June 03, 2019, 12:57:26 AM
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Post by: nate j on June 03, 2019, 12:57:55 AM
As someone who regularly carries a Mountaineer with the new metal file, I can confirm that, while it is noticeably more aggressive that a standard nail file, it still works absolutely fine on fingernails.
With regard to ticks and insects, here is my $0.02:
DO:
- Select and use a repellent containing about 40% DEET.
- Reapply your selected repellent per the manufacturer's recommendation (typically every so many hours).
- Pre-treat your clothes with permethrin. You can either buy a can and DIY, or send your clothing off to be treated professionally. DIY is cheaper, but professional treatment will last longer and probably be more thorough. The permethrin treatment lasts a fairly long time, typically rated by the manufacturer or treatment company as "x weeks OR y washes". Permethrin is not a repellent; rather, it is an insecticide.
- Consider wearing long pants, and tucking the bottoms of the pants into the tops of your socks or boots.
- Consider wearing long-sleeved shirts.
- Consider wearing a hat.
- Wear light-colored clothing, as it makes ticks easier to spot.
- Check yourself/one another for ticks at least once per day, paying special attention to areas that ticks particularly like, e.g. armpits, groin, scalp.
- Have the proper tools (typically fine-tipped tweezers) and know-how to correctly remove an embedded tick.
- Test your chosen repellent and permethrin-treated clothing prior to your trip, to make sure no one in your party is allergic.
- Know how to recognize the signs and symptoms of tick-borne illnesses.
DON'T:
- Waste your time on/waste your money on/trust your health to non-DEET repellents. There simply is not enough evidence that they are effective, especially against ticks.
- Use permethrin spray on your skin, or attempt to treat clothing with permethrin while you are wearing it.
- Use repellent that has less than 30% DEET, as concentrations below this level are less effective.
- Use repellent that has more than 50% DEET, as higher concentrations are even more damaging to some synthetic materials; and while they may require less frequent re-application, they do not enhance protection.
- Spray yourself in the face with repellent. You can spray some on your hand, then rub a bit on your face if needed.
- Ingest repellent. Try not to apply repellent right before you eat, and or clean your hands as well as possible before you eat.
Sounds like a great trip; enjoy!
Post by: Aloha on June 03, 2019, 01:09:46 AM
Post by: kottskrapa on June 03, 2019, 01:18:31 AM
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Buzzbait on June 03, 2019, 03:34:44 AM
Regarding what Nate said about model choice, weight and bulk are not such significant issues. The bulk of our travel will mostly be done via canoe and bicycle, with shorter day hikes to certain destinations. And we do actually plan to avail ourselves of as many of the SwissChamp’s tools as possible. It’s part of the game to find creative uses for the SwissChamp’s tools. This will be as much a mental exercise as a physical one. I even have plans for us to make liberal use the fish scale and hook disgorger.
For a 13 year old girl, the knife blades are really a very small part of the fun. Tools like the magnifier, ruler, fish scaler, scissors and package hook show far more potential for creativity. Pretty much all the tools that I normally wouldn’t bother to carry outdoors, are a source of wonder to a kid. With that said, I will be bringing my OC Farmer along in my pack. I can’t imagine not having it with me, even if it isn’t directly needed. It’s a comfort item really. I trust the Farmer implicitly.
We will definitely be taking tons of pictures, and doing some drawing as well. I make journals for each one of our vacations, and this will be no different. Last summer, my daughter did a series of drawings in my journal, which I hope she’ll do again this year.
Post by: Aloha on June 03, 2019, 03:56:34 AM
What a wonderful journey you have in store. :hatsoff:.
Post by: Sos24 on June 03, 2019, 04:22:34 AM
Post by: Buzzbait on June 04, 2019, 03:54:09 AM
I love the Adirondacks and sure it will be a great experience. Will you be doing any of the high peaks? I haven’t done it in a long time, but Avalanche Pass and Algonquin were my favorites.
Probably not. While the trailhead to Mt. Marcy is only a 15-mile bike ride away, I doubt we’ll do it. The official high peaks get so much traffic. I kind of prefer to hit the lesser known and harder to get to destinations during the busy summer months, and hit the high peaks after Labor Day.
My new Warthog SwissChamp arrived today, and I really like it. The new style glass magnifier works very well. Good power, nice wide viewing area, and far less fiddly than the old glass model. I do have my reservations though, as people have mentioned the lens popping out of the housing.
I’m still have mixed feelings on the file. I may go with one of us using an old style SwissChamp, with the Case hardened file, and one of us using the new stainless file, so we have all bases covered.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on June 04, 2019, 01:37:38 PM
My daily carry Swisschamp is an older one with solid scales, case hardened file, and grey magnifier. I'd been looking out for a black one with the current revisions but I got a very good deal on a used red one and have been carrying it ever since. I love it and don't feel let down by the older tools at all. While I much prefer the optical quality and field of view of the latest magnifier on my Explorer, I hate the lens's propensity to fall out. I've got to be careful opening it. It really needs a couple of drops of epoxy, and next time I have an epoxy job I'll do just this. The older version might have poorer optical quality but it feels so much more dependable, and if it's all you have it works just fine.
Two Swisschamps will have you well prepared! I trust you'll enjoy your trip. You daughter's lucky to have an active and encouraging dad like you.
Post by: Butch on June 04, 2019, 11:45:30 PM
Post by: comis on June 05, 2019, 07:04:25 AM
For a 13 year old girl, the knife blades are really a very small part of the fun. Tools like the magnifier, ruler, fish scaler, scissors and package hook show far more potential for creativity. Pretty much all the tools that I normally wouldn’t bother to carry outdoors, are a source of wonder to a kid. With that said, I will be bringing my OC Farmer along in my pack. I can’t imagine not having it with me, even if it isn’t directly needed. It’s a comfort item really. I trust the Farmer implicitly.It must be a fun trip, and interesting to see how a 13 years old evaluate the swisschamp. Kinda like doing a 30 days swisschamp challenge, father and daughter together.
We will definitely be taking tons of pictures, and doing some drawing as well. I make journals for each one of our vacations, and this will be no different. Last summer, my daughter did a series of drawings in my journal, which I hope she’ll do again this year.
My experience with deet was never good but it works kind of. I have had good luck with garlic. Both eating lots of it & rubbing garlic juice on the skin. Peel all the cloves in a head of garlic & put them in a blender full of water. Blend until completely pulverized then mix with a gallon of water. Works wonderfuly at holding the Texas mosquitos at bay. Of course you go around smelling like an Italian restaurant. .......... :dunno:
I definitely learn something new today. :like:
Post by: Huntsman on June 05, 2019, 09:42:48 AM
And you, Mr Buzzbait, are a wonderful father and SAK ambassador !
Post by: comis on June 05, 2019, 10:20:42 AM
As someone who regularly carries a Mountaineer with the new metal file, I can confirm that, while it is noticeably more aggressive that a standard nail file, it still works absolutely fine on fingernails.
Hey, Nate. This is totally off-topic, but just a quick shout out from one Mountaineer user to another! :waving: :2tu:
Post by: Buzzbait on June 05, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
I also managed to find an SOS pouch for sale on eBay, and have that one the way. It should be interesting to try out.
(https://i.imgur.com/s95PvClh.jpg)
Post by: Aloha on June 05, 2019, 05:08:07 PM
Post by: Buzzbait on June 05, 2019, 05:43:59 PM
I had both the Dual and Single pouches. I traded off the Dual :(. My single sheath is very nice. I hope you will find your SOS sheath to be what you expect. I like leather personally. I do appreciate all you said about Cordura. My other SC is in a leather sheath that is really snug. Its not a legit Vic sheath tho :dunno:. I thought it was cool since it had the emblem.
The one I have on the way is the single SOS pouch. I've seen the double around, but it's definitely larger than I want to carry on me. The single looks just right for the SwissChamp and some extra goodies.
I do like leather also. I'm just kind of weighing all my options. I may try this Vic pouch eventually. It looks really nice, although I kind of wish it had a snap instead of Velcro.
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Post by: Aloha on June 05, 2019, 05:45:13 PM
Post by: nate j on June 06, 2019, 01:07:52 AM
Hey, Nate. This is totally off-topic, but just a quick shout out from one Mountaineer user to another! :waving: :2tu:
:cheers:
Post by: Buzzbait on June 06, 2019, 04:22:23 PM
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I also got in some G-10 scales for my SwissChamp, and things did not go so well. One of the scales moved slightly as I tightened it in the vise, and now it won't snap into place properly. I'm gluing it with 2-part epoxy, and we'll see how it goes. But I'm kind of wishing I'd just gotten another nylon Climber instead, as the nylon scales worked out really, really well. Nylon is good tough stuff too.
(https://i.imgur.com/KwYQZsph.jpg)
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2019, 04:30:35 PM
Post by: VICMAN on June 06, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
So my daughter's Swisschamp is all ready for vacation. I got in an Ecoline Climber yesterday with nylon scales. The Climber became a scale donor for the SwissChamp. My daughter loved it, and wanted a tan paracord fob tied to it, that matched her backpack. Gotta love her. I tied a basic fob for now, but will teach her how to make her own snake knot fob over vacation as one of our tasks.
The Climber scales are perfect for your daughter's SwissChamp, and it will be fun for her to learn how to make her own snake fob! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Buzzbait on June 06, 2019, 07:37:21 PM
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Post by: FolderBeholder on June 06, 2019, 08:21:45 PM
The G-10 scales survived the epoxy just fine. I still need to clean them up a bit.
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Wish there was a LOVE sign, but I'll have to settle with :like:.
Post by: Hevy (CT-782) on June 06, 2019, 08:28:38 PM
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Post by: Buzzbait on June 06, 2019, 08:39:27 PM
Wish there was a LOVE sign, but I'll have to settle with :like:.
Thanks. I think it's now about as hardened and indestructible as a SwissChamp can get.
I wonder if......... I still have some micarta left over. It would be a cool little project, to make an indestructible toothpick. There was that time I made one out of G-10.
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Post by: HolyDeuce on June 06, 2019, 09:07:37 PM
So my daughter's Swisschamp is all ready for vacation. I got in an Ecoline Climber yesterday with nylon scales. The Climber became a scale donor for the SwissChamp. My daughter loved it, and wanted a tan paracord fob tied to it, that matched her backpack. Gotta love her. I tied a basic fob for now, but will teach her how to make her own snake knot fob over vacation as one of our tasks.
(https://i.imgur.com/E5fZfyVh.jpg)
I also got in some G-10 scales for my SwissChamp, and things did not go so well. One of the scales moved slightly as I tightened it in the vise, and now it won't snap into place properly. I'm gluing it with 2-part epoxy, and we'll see how it goes. But I'm kind of wishing I'd just gotten another nylon Climber instead, as the nylon scales worked out really, really well. Nylon is good tough stuff too.
(https://i.imgur.com/KwYQZsph.jpg)
So the Nylon scales hold up pretty well when switching them between knives? :dunno:
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2019, 09:19:08 PM
Post by: Buzzbait on June 06, 2019, 09:25:48 PM
So the Nylon scales hold up pretty well when switching them between knives? :dunno:
The nylon held up much better than cellidor during the scale changeover. Nylon is tough stuff. If you ask me, a huge functional upgrade over cellidor. Just a cosmetic downgrade if you like shiny stuff.
Post by: Aloha on June 06, 2019, 09:28:53 PM
Post by: ulzhan on June 06, 2019, 09:36:59 PM
Post by: VICMAN on June 06, 2019, 10:53:54 PM
The G-10 scales survived the epoxy just fine. I still need to clean them up a bit.
Those are 2 good looking SwissChamps Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: lowtech on June 07, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Cellidor is easy to come by, but I had to order out of country for a steep price when I NEEDed one pair in black Nylon for my BO Syph Spartan. But it´s worth it. It looks really good in all black with Nylon scales.
Back to topic:
If you want to try, I have one of those OD green SOS Kit/SwissChamp Puches taht I never used and which I woul donate to the cause (we split shipping or you donate a bit to MTO or something along those lines)
If Buzzbait doesn´t bite on the offer, it is free for anyone else with an equally good reason. Although a few weeks outdoors with your Kid is quite hard to beat - Great plan, I hope I´ll be able to do something half as cool when mine get older.
And, last question: are you the same Buzzbait that used to hang out in teh G-Shock Section of Watchuseek forums?
Post by: Buzzbait on June 07, 2019, 02:49:12 PM
Too bad you can´t get Nylon spare scales her.
Cellidor is easy to come by, but I had to order out of country for a steep price when I NEEDed one pair in black Nylon for my BO Syph Spartan. But it´s worth it. It looks really good in all black with Nylon scales.
Back to topic:
If you want to try, I have one of those OD green SOS Kit/SwissChamp Puches taht I never used and which I woul donate to the cause (we split shipping or you donate a bit to MTO or something along those lines)
If Buzzbait doesn´t bite on the offer, it is free for anyone else with an equally good reason. Although a few weeks outdoors with your Kid is quite hard to beat - Great plan, I hope I´ll be able to do something half as cool when mine get older.
And, last question: are you the same Buzzbait that used to hang out in teh G-Shock Section of Watchuseek forums?
Wow!!! Such a generous and kind offer!!! Yes, I wouldn't gladly take you up on that wonderful pouch. PM is on the way.
Yes, I am the guy that used to post up on G-Shock forum. I wore my venerable DW-5600C "speed" model just a few days ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/FmPoNcPl.jpg)
Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2019, 03:01:44 PM
Post by: Buzzbait on June 07, 2019, 04:51:22 PM
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Post by: Aloha on June 07, 2019, 05:14:18 PM
Post by: VICMAN on June 07, 2019, 09:47:17 PM
Abby and I thank you for your generous offer, LOWTECH!!!
Great pic Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: lowtech on June 10, 2019, 02:59:56 PM
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on June 10, 2019, 08:00:05 PM
Abby and I thank you for your generous offer, LOWTECH!!!
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Great pic mate :like:.
@lowtech: awesome gesture my friend :hatsoff:.
Post by: Buzzbait on June 13, 2019, 04:55:31 PM
The olive drab G-10 SwissTank is now in. I love how this one came out, and dig the contrast provided by the red/black hunter's plaid paracord.. The army green color reminds me a lot of my Vic GAK and my father-in-law's old Scoutmaster's BSA whistle.
I may try to pry off the red G-10 covers, and see if I can sand them down the same way I did the olive drab ones, as the process dramatically changed the color and look of the scales.
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on June 13, 2019, 05:15:44 PM
I already liked the red ones, but these are just ... :drool:
Are you making these yourself or did I misunderstand that part :think:.
Post by: Buzzbait on June 13, 2019, 05:37:02 PM
Those look awesome :like:.
I already liked the red ones, but these are just ... :drool:
Are you making these yourself or did I misunderstand that part :think:.
No. The G-10 scales were ordered from a third party. I just modified the green ones a bit.
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on June 13, 2019, 05:57:49 PM
No. The G-10 scales were ordered from a third party. I just modified the green ones a bit.
Well, you did a great job sanding them down, they do have that old GAK look, and it looks great :tu:.
Post by: VICMAN on June 13, 2019, 08:10:07 PM
Okay. So the red G-10 SwissChamp is out. I just never took to the covers. I didn't like the look of the aggressive texture, and the color was a little too "pinkish" for my liking.
The olive drab G-10 SwissTank is now in. I love how this one came out, and dig the contrast provided by the red/black hunter's plaid paracord.. The army green color reminds me a lot of my Vic GAK and my father-in-law's old Scoutmaster's BSA whistle.
I may try to pry off the red G-10 covers, and see if I can sand them down the same way I did the olive drab ones, as the process dramatically changed the color and look of the scales.
Nice job Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Buzzbait on June 21, 2019, 01:20:09 AM
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Just in case the SOS pouches don’t work out, I ordered some wool pouches from Switzerland, made from retired Swiss Army blankets. I can use them to hold the survival items, and store the pouches in fanny packs. The pouches are of extraordinary quality. Is everything crafted in Switzerland always perfect?
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Post by: Aloha on June 23, 2019, 07:16:41 AM
Post by: EMZ on June 23, 2019, 10:24:44 AM
Just came back from a visit to the Schweiz, and yes, it seems that everything they make is built to last forever! It's their way of economic survival, I guess.
My wife and I had a wonderful time over there (although it was very expensive). We only met very friendly people!
Post by: VICMAN on June 23, 2019, 03:20:45 PM
Things are finally coming together. One SOS pouch arrived today from the Ukraine. Hopefully, I’ll manage to get a hold of a second one before vacation starts.
Just in case the SOS pouches don’t work out, I ordered some wool pouches from Switzerland, made from retired Swiss Army blankets. I can use them to hold the survival items, and store the pouches in fanny packs. The pouches are of extraordinary quality. Is everything crafted in Switzerland always perfect?
Very cool wool pouches Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Buzzbait on July 09, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
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The Victorinox gives me lots of interesting carry options, with all of the accessories included. The quality of the watch itself looks pretty good, and it's quite handsome. The leather and the stitching might not be too great, but time will tell. Overall, I really like the style.
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I've had the Wenger for a long time, but never grew too fond of it. The included leather lanyard broke on day one, and the leather Case never really fit quite right. The pocket clip was also a lost watch waiting to happen. Great idea, but bad execution. We'll see how it compares, but I'm not expecting too much.
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The Timex has been used a ton over the years. Every now and then, I have to repair some stitching. But I just can't seem to kill this watch. The pig skin case is absolute genius. Hang it from your belt with the watch face oriented to the inside, and you can just unsnap the case and view the watch. Turn the watch around inside the leather case, so it faces outward, and you can carry it like a normal pocket watch. Press on the stem, and the backlight lights up. The downside is that the backlight activates so easily, that it often does so by accident, quickly draining two of the three batteries. Yes, it takes three batteries to power the darned thing. One for the movement and two for the Indiglo backlight. If it weren't for the insane battery issue, this would have been an EDC watch.
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Post by: VICMAN on July 10, 2019, 12:04:05 AM
Just to add to the madness, I've added some more Swiss Army goodness to this summer's vacation, with a bit of pocket watch fun. I'm going to try to bench my favorite Seiko Alpinist for the vacation, and try carrying a pocket watch. The Victorinox just arrived yesterday. The Wenger I've had for a number of years, and I'm throwing a favorite old Timex in as well.
Cool pics Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Buzzbait on August 06, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
- Large Blade - 9
- Can Opener - 3
- Bottle Opener - 6
- Reamer/Punch - 1
- Scissors - 3
- Wood Saw -1
- Ruler -1
- File - 5
- Pliers - 2
- Magnifier - 2
So there it is. Every major layer on the SwissChamp was used at some point, and the fun is only half over. We head back out in ten days for the next two weeks of camping. The last leg will be a bit more leisurely, so I expect more time to be devoted to projects, which should theoretically show a spike in usage.
The wonderful SwissChamp - Mark I
(https://i.imgur.com/tQpB6jFh.jpg)
Me opening a can of Beefaroni at base camp.
(https://i.imgur.com/tk02uclh.jpg)
Of the pockesmurfches, the Victorinox was by far my favorite. Easy to take on and off, without having to undo my belt. It hung just low enough, when using the belt hanger, to slip just into my front pocket, to help protect it. And when I wasn't wearing a belt, I could just use the included leather pocket slip. Great watch.
(https://i.imgur.com/gAQEXZ2h.jpg)
And a few vacation pics
(https://i.imgur.com/oQsAHaTh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mkD7Ou7h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vk6IXETh.jpg)
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Post by: Barry Rowland on August 06, 2019, 07:42:24 PM
Post by: kottskrapa on August 06, 2019, 08:26:16 PM
[It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: Max Stone on August 06, 2019, 08:47:30 PM
Nice to see the tank got lots of usage. Love those green scales. :cheers:
Post by: Hevy (CT-782) on August 06, 2019, 09:41:47 PM
And very nice see the swisschamp having so many uses!
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Post by: Aloha on August 07, 2019, 03:24:03 PM
The pocket watches are cool. I really like the leather cases. Its nice to hear the Swisschamps got a good workout. The pictures are amazing thank you so much for sharing with us :hatsoff:
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on August 07, 2019, 09:48:58 PM
What amazing memories I'm sure. I don't need to tell you, you are truly a blessed man. I cherish every moment I have with my kids.
The pocket watches are cool. I really like the leather cases. Its nice to hear the Swisschamps got a good workout. The pictures are amazing thank you so much for sharing with us :hatsoff:
:iagree:
Great pics and lots of sweet memories there, thanks for sharing them here :salute:.
Post by: VICMAN on August 08, 2019, 12:56:28 AM
Two weeks of this summer's SwissChamp vacation are now complete, and it was a lot of fun.
Great pics and list of uses Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
You are making memories that will last a lifetime! :cheers:
Post by: Buzzbait on September 03, 2019, 05:30:26 PM
I was actually out in the field for so long this summer that I had to file down my toe nails with the file, which is no easy chore. But the file made quick work of the job. The fish scaler was never used for its intended purpose, but proved to be an excellent coffee stirrer for those rare times when I was close enough to civilization to find some cream.
(https://i.imgur.com/BoFSL3nh.jpg)
My daughter's favorite Swisschamp implement turned out to be the wood saw, which she used to saw dead wood she had collected, for the creation of her tiny tipi.
(https://i.imgur.com/rS7W5RRh.jpg)
During a brief time that were in civilization, we went to the Adirondack Museum, which featured an old Adirondack railway train. Some miscreant had decided to remove one of the old wooden knobs from the train's control center and left it on the ground nearby. I took it upon myself to return the knob to it's original location in the train, and used the cap lifter's flathead screwdriver during the assembly.
(https://i.imgur.com/y7ziexMh.jpg)
At this point in time, the SwissTank is firmly entrenched in my own sense of self. It has been with me continually from dawn until dusk, constantly put to task. I've become thoroughly accustomed to its reassuring weight in my front pocket. It's what I always use for pretty much everything I do, a constant companion. The SwissTank has been the primary implement I use to interact with the world around me. I hate to use the word "tool" because it is so much more than that. It doesn't just build and fix things. It helps me to explore and further understand the natural world. It aids me in my own self keeping, and even helps feed me. It grooms me and helps me to build things. It is truly an aid to life.
(https://i.imgur.com/MWBRnCLh.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on September 03, 2019, 06:34:49 PM
Two weeks of this summer's SwissChamp vacation are now complete, and it was a lot of fun. Our SwissChamps, pockesmurfches and survival kits were used quite a bit. We made sure to record as many tool uses as possible, and here is the breakdown.:rofl:
- Large Blade - 9
- Can Opener - 3
- Bottle Opener - 6
- Reamer/Punch - 1
- Scissors - 3
- Wood Saw -1
- Ruler -1
- File - 5
- Pliers - 2
- Magnifier - 2
So there it is. Every major layer on the SwissChamp was used at some point, and the fun is only half over. We head back out in ten days for the next two weeks of camping. The last leg will be a bit more leisurely, so I expect more time to be devoted to projects, which should theoretically show a spike in usage.
The wonderful SwissChamp - Mark I
(https://i.imgur.com/tQpB6jFh.jpg)
Me opening a can of Beefaroni at base camp.
(https://i.imgur.com/tk02uclh.jpg)
Of the pockesmurfches, the Victorinox was by far my favorite. Easy to take on and off, without having to undo my belt. It hung just low enough, when using the belt hanger, to slip just into my front pocket, to help protect it. And when I wasn't wearing a belt, I could just use the included leather pocket slip. Great watch.
(https://i.imgur.com/gAQEXZ2h.jpg)
And a few vacation pics
(https://i.imgur.com/oQsAHaTh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mkD7Ou7h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vk6IXETh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/do6u48oh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TY1ppfah.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RMQgQ08h.jpg)
Great photos and great post! Glad you both had fun! :tu: :cheers:
Post by: Rapidray on September 03, 2019, 06:38:45 PM
My second week of Adirondack adventure has now concluded, and I'm pleased to say that the SwissChamp still reigned supreme. Actually it reigned alone. I was confident in its abilities to leave all other knives behind, and rely solely upon its merits. My daughter and I did a ton a bikepacking, canoeing and some very remote camping while were in the Adirondacks, and my SwissTank proved invaluable.Excellent - thanks for sharing your adventures with us. :tu: :cheers:
I was actually out in the field for so long this summer that I had to file down my toe nails with the file, which is no easy chore. But the file made quick work of the job. The fish scaler was never used for its intended purpose, but proved to be an excellent coffee stirrer for those rare times when I was close enough to civilization to find some cream.
(https://i.imgur.com/BoFSL3nh.jpg)
My daughter's favorite Swisschamp implement turned out to be the wood saw, which she used to saw dead wood she had collected, for the creation of her tiny tipi.
(https://i.imgur.com/rS7W5RRh.jpg)
During a brief time that were in civilization, we went to the Adirondack Museum, which featured an old Adirondack railway train. Some miscreant had decided to remove one of the old wooden knobs from the train's control center and left it on the ground nearby. I took it upon myself to return the knob to it's original location in the train, and used the cap lifter's flathead screwdriver during the assembly.
(https://i.imgur.com/y7ziexMh.jpg)
At this point in time, the SwissTank is firmly entrenched in my own sense of self. It has been with me continually from dawn until dusk, constantly put to task. I've become thoroughly accustomed to its reassuring weight in my front pocket. It's what I always use for pretty much everything I do, a constant companion. The SwissTank has been the primary implement I use to interact with the world around me. I hate to use the word "tool" because it is so much more than that. It doesn't just build and fix things. It helps me to explore and further understand the natural world. It aids me in my own self keeping, and even helps feed me. It grooms me and helps me to build things. It is truly an aid to life.
(https://i.imgur.com/MWBRnCLh.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on September 03, 2019, 06:40:23 PM
My second week of Adirondack adventure has now concluded, and I'm pleased to say that the SwissChamp still reigned supreme.
Great write-up and finish to your Adirondack adventure Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Nice pics! :cheers:
The memories you have created will last forever! :D
Post by: Barry Rowland on September 03, 2019, 07:18:56 PM
Post by: fullbreakfast on September 03, 2019, 07:32:04 PM
No. The G-10 scales were ordered from a third party. I just modified the green ones a bit.Thanks for this wonderful and rather heartwarming thread Buzzbait. I have greatly enjoyed reading it.
If I may ask a question, what grades of sandpaper did you use to finish the G10 scales on the SwissTank? They look perfect.
I haven’t worked with G10 but I imagine the dust from sanding it would be good to avoid inhaling, getting in eyes, etc.
Post by: Buzzbait on September 03, 2019, 07:59:22 PM
Thanks for this wonderful and rather heartwarming thread Buzzbait. I have greatly enjoyed reading it.
If I may ask a question, what grades of sandpaper did you use to finish the G10 scales on the SwissTank? They look perfect.
I haven’t worked with G10 but I imagine the dust from sanding it would be good to avoid inhaling, getting in eyes, etc.
I used a number of pieces of adhesive backed SIC wet/dry paper, mounted to old computer mouse pads. I believe I started around 600 grit, and went as far as 2000 grit to put some shine on them.
G10 dust is definitely something you don't want to inhale. I sat outside, next to a folding table to do the work, and wore a breathing mask. But it wasn't too bad. The work was done very quickly.
Post by: kottskrapa on September 03, 2019, 08:34:51 PM
and not forgetting the bind between you and your doughter [It's not failure if you learn something from it]
Post by: fullbreakfast on September 03, 2019, 10:16:51 PM
I used a number of pieces of adhesive backed SIC wet/dry paper, mounted to old computer mouse pads. I believe I started around 600 grit, and went as far as 2000 grit to put some shine on them.Thank you for the tips. I hope to make use of them before too long; will post the results to the forum if they are not catastrophic. Or perhaps even if they are.
G10 dust is definitely something you don't want to inhale. I sat outside, next to a folding table to do the work, and wore a breathing mask. But it wasn't too bad. The work was done very quickly.
Post by: McStitchy on September 04, 2019, 11:47:32 AM
Great write-up and finish to your Adirondack adventure Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Nice pics! :cheers:
The memories you have created will last forever! :D
:iagree: :like:
Post by: Buzzbait on September 04, 2019, 02:35:13 PM
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Post by: Rapidray on September 04, 2019, 03:16:52 PM
Thanks everybody. It was a wonderful experience, that I hope to partake in next year as well. So many great sights and memories.Again some great photo’s - and that tree stump - big enough to serve as a table top! :like: :cheers:
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Post by: Buzzbait on September 04, 2019, 03:37:43 PM
Again some great photo’s - and that tree stump - big enough to serve as a table top! :like: :cheers:
Yeah. It was a huge stump. I had to use the spirit level from my Victorinox compass to find a flat spot on the stump for the cooking stove, so the pot didn't slide off while cooking.
The homemade SOS kit actually came in handy quite a few times. Tons of Bandaids and antibiotic ointment were dispensed, and the tiny BIC lighter was used continually to start the stove. But also the tiny Vic sharpening steel I put inside, which actually worked beautifully to keep the main blade cutting well. Even the sewing kit was used to sew a button back onto my cargo shorts. Lots and lots and lots of uses.
Post by: Aloha on September 04, 2019, 03:56:30 PM
Post by: VICMAN on September 04, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
Thanks everybody. It was a wonderful experience, that I hope to partake in next year as well. So many great sights and memories.
Great pics Buzzbait! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Ron Who on September 04, 2019, 06:54:40 PM