Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 19, 2019, 04:00:35 AM
- two layers
- large blade
- clip point small blade (discontinued 1973)
- scissors with broken black single leaf spring (discontinued 1975)
- keyring (introduced 1968)
- corkscrew, fluted, 4-turn (introduced 1983 ???)
- tweezers with aluminium tip
- solid scales
I haven't been able to find it in the wiki. As above, acording to the information I can find, mostly its tools date it from between 1968 and 1973. However, the corkscrew only has four turns, not five as I'd expect from the time. Is the 84mm CS's history different to 91mm? The lack of an opener layer makes it unusual and distinctive. Can anyone identify it? :cheers:
Post by: cody6268 on May 19, 2019, 04:18:17 AM
This is the closest I could come up with. In this "1960s US Catalog" there is a model called the 244k. Almost the same setup--but it has a long nailfile. As for the corkscrew, that could indicate that it was serviced and rebuilt by warranty at one point.
https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=73
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 19, 2019, 07:16:39 AM
The 244k does seem to be a close match to my knife. I know the LNF was frequently broken but I can't see where it's been on mine; perhaps I have a variant. I can't see a bottle opener in the picture. My one *doesn't* have a keyring either. I think got it confused with another knife on the table! ::)
I did wonder about the corkscrew being replaced. An owner must have been quite attached to this knife to not simply buy a replacement. My first thought was that the knife was a mod, although it seems too old for that.
If you look closely you can see gaps between the liners and scales. This suggests to me that at some point the scales have been reattached, likely glued.
It's been well used. The large blade is worn near the tang. Perhaps the owner (or one of them) was a keen wine drinker as the corkscrew has made indents in the liner and scale as it was snapped shut. All the pivots were stiff with old oil. I cleaned it up after I took the pictures in the OP and it's come up well.
Post by: Shalom on May 19, 2019, 07:31:23 AM
Think of it as a proto Golfer :D
https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Golfer+84mm (https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Golfer+84mm)
Post by: Mechanickal on May 19, 2019, 09:23:59 AM
Not all of them came with LNF either.
Furthermore, I have some older SAKs with some space between the liner and scale too, but have found the constant pressure of the tweezers to be the cause there.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 19, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Golfer Model 0.3102
Everyone loves 84mm scissors, and the 84mm LNF versions are t0.3102he most drooled over (rightly so, they are pretty awesome). As a result, everyone assumes that the Golfer LNF (either the pen blade or combo tool version) is the rarest of the rare.
Actually, it's not. The original Golfer LNF (Model 244k) was actually a pretty common model for it's time. Likewise, combo tool Golfers were made in pretty large numbers so finding one of those isn't super difficult for the dedicated collector. So what do I consider an "unusual" Golfer? Behold the Model 0.3102.
In the timeline of Golfer production, Victorinox started off in the 1940s making the Model 244k. This is a LNF Golfer with a pen blade. This model was in production for 30 years into the early 1970s when they started phasing the LNF out of regular production. So the successor to the Model 244k Golfer LNF was the Model 0.3102 shown below - same knife, just no LNF. So, if this was a regular production replacement, why is it so unusual?
Well, in the late 1970s Victorinox introduces the 84mm combo tool and creates the Golfer variant that we all know and love - the Model 0.1602. From 1978 on the pen blade model is out of production and millions of combo tool Golfers are made until the 84mm scissors models are phased out in the late 1980s.
Standard model Golfer evolution:
(http://i.imgur.com/uPJnEns.jpg)
Golfer Model 0.3102:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZX8E2nz.jpg)
NB: There is a LNF version of the combo tool Golfer (Model 0.3422) that was made as special runs during the 1980s and into the early 1990s. Given their special run status these are, as you might imagine, very hard to find. However, the 0.3102 model discussed in this post is still slightly harder to find.
Followed by this one:
Very interesting Jazzbass, about those Golfers. You made me put mine all together to compare and it seems I got one as well (picture top right) :D . Not like yours, but like the one on the picture, with a 4-turn cork screw and t&t.A shame jazzbass's pictures have evaporated. Herman's attached picture shows the 0.3102 with the clip point blade and four turn corkscrew, so my CS is probably original. The scissor spring is a black double leaf, as mine must have been after all.
So, got to be looking now for the rare combo tool with LNF... :facepalm:
According to the wiki, the clip point blade was discontinued in 1973. If my reading is correct, this dates the knife to then or earlier, but not much earlier as the LNF is absent. My source (http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php#corkscrew (http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php#corkscrew)) says the four turn corkscrew was introduced ten years later - this must be wrong? I haven't been able to find another source with a date. Does anyone here know it?
Post by: Mechanickal on May 19, 2019, 10:29:46 AM
Even though it was (and still is) an important source of info.
On top of that, tool evolutions on the 91mm and 84mm frames happened far in between and the 91mm evolution is not following the same timeline at all.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 19, 2019, 10:34:40 AM
Indeed. Early Golfer.Yeah, that side is definitely worse and the tweezers have very little spring left in them. The weird thing is that both scales have bulged right at the T&T end, but only on the sides nearest the blades. I'm wondering if either dirt's worked its way into the slots or it really is epoxy. I can't dislodge any of the gunk with a safety pin. A minor mystery!
Not all of them came with LNF either.
Furthermore, I have some older SAKs with some space between the liner and scale too, but have found the constant pressure of the tweezers to be the cause there.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 19, 2019, 10:54:16 AM
It was discussed a few days ago that quite some info on SAAM's site has since been found to be wrong.Thanks. I'll look for the thread.
Even though it was (and still is) an important source of info.
On top of that, tool evolutions on the 91mm and 84mm frames happened far in between and the 91mm evolution is not following the same timeline at all.
Edit: Found it, thanks. :)
Post by: M0rkoni on May 19, 2019, 10:04:47 PM
Post by: jaya_man on May 19, 2019, 11:53:26 PM
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Post by: kamakiri on May 20, 2019, 05:24:04 AM
The clip point isn't an issue/conflict for this date range in 84mm.
Post by: kamakiri on May 20, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
I believe the Original Golfer is based off the 136ka Craftsman, but with horn scales. First listed that I know of in the 26 Model Catalog (which I believe is mid-late '60s) My guess is that it was directly succeeded c. '73 with the 0.3102 version and followed by the 0.1602 in the late '70s.
Post by: ulli on May 20, 2019, 10:48:46 AM
The "golfer" model with mainblade, small blade, scissors and backside tools exist since ca. 1900. Then, it was called a model Nr. 207k. The tools/configuration changed a lot over the years. For a specific time period, there were two different configuration, with or without the long nailfile, and with different numbers.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 20, 2019, 11:41:35 AM
It's nice to have an interesting model and get the story behind it. I knew very little about the Golfer until yesterday and nothing of its history. I'm constantly amazed at the depth and breadth of experience and knowledge here! :hatsoff:
Post by: Sawl Goodman on May 20, 2019, 11:57:51 AM
They (not victorinox, but US-marketing) used the same name for different models. So better than searching for a name is to check the numbers given for the different models.The Golfer in the picture has an Artisan or Fieldmaster Small toolset. This is very different from the classic Golfer's toolset of the 70s and 80s, so they can't share the same lineage. They only have the name in common.
The "golfer" model with mainblade, small blade, scissors and backside tools exist since ca. 1900. Then, it was called a model Nr. 207k. The tools/configuration changed a lot over the years. For a specific time period, there were two different configuration, with or without the long nailfile, and with different numbers.
The Vic "fossil record" shows that the classic Golfer belongs to a lineage with the 244k as an ancestor. Thanks, ulli, for pointing out that that lineage has a very long history. If I understand correctly, it continues today with the Compact.
Post by: kamakiri on May 20, 2019, 05:36:57 PM
They (not victorinox, but US-marketing) used the same name for different models. So better than searching for a name is to check the numbers given for the different models.
The "golfer" model with mainblade, small blade, scissors and backside tools exist since ca. 1900. Then, it was called a model Nr. 207k. The tools/configuration changed a lot over the years. For a specific time period, there were two different configuration, with or without the long nailfile, and with different numbers.
I understand that the toolsets have been around for ages. What most people have trouble with, is that there is no proof that the 244k or 207k was ever called a 'Golfer'. Even the newer runs with the LNF where there are BOXED examples, there is no GOLFER label to be found. Therefore, I do not believe the LNF versions were ever Golfers.
If I am wrong, there will be some catalog or boxed version of the LNF knife out there with the label on it.
The Golfer in the picture has an Artisan or Fieldmaster Small toolset.
Craftsman toolset
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7866/40404044093_57112ca97d_n.jpg)
Post by: kamakiri on May 20, 2019, 11:10:58 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46977895615_3932881ec9_m.jpg)
forgot it also has a blank rear tang
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47841899142_47962a7b42_m.jpg)
Mine should be '73 or '75 for that.
Post by: Myron on November 08, 2019, 10:50:57 PM
Note the aluminum-headed tweezers and what appears to be nickel silver shield/cross device.
(https://i.imgur.com/bfo4lJj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/11BUm2r.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lxaqhWm.jpg)
Post by: Myron on November 09, 2019, 12:21:42 AM
Post by: kamakiri on November 09, 2019, 01:04:39 AM
But I'm glad I didn't pick that one up for myself when I saw it...because you got it to complete your collection! :tu: Congrats on both counts! :cheers:
Post by: Myron on November 09, 2019, 01:48:12 AM
I don't know about a club thread...I still think the LNF versions were never officially Golfers.
But I'm glad I didn't pick that one up for myself when I saw it...because you got it to complete your collection! :tu: Congrats on both counts! :cheers:
You could be right, Kamakiri. My LNF box doesn't say "Golfer," only 0.34 22
Post by: kamakiri on November 09, 2019, 05:12:21 AM
You could be right, Kamakiri.Stranger things have happened. :D :rofl:
My LNF box doesn't say "Golfer," only 0.34 22Yeah, I'd like to see just one...with a correct printed name and number. Or from earlier era ones like yours, I don't think the 3 layer LNF version would fit. :dunno:
Post by: jnoxyd on November 09, 2019, 06:57:13 AM
Stranger things have happened. :D :rofl:Here's one with name on box but without number to my regret. Just hope it is not wrong box ;)
Yeah, I'd like to see just one...with a correct printed name and number. Or from earlier era ones like yours, I don't think the 3 layer LNF version would fit. :dunno:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-new-in-box-84mm-Victorinox-VICTORIA-1ST-TYPE-GOLFER-LONG-NAIL-FILE-VTG-SAK-/352785036988?hash=item5223a076bc%3Ag%3A6%7EoAAOSwXkVddBXs&nma=true&si=QDk9U8KUcyQzRq85LhXS32BT3uM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191109/ec7f8e16cc16ca89d52fb8593f53e28a.jpg)
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Post by: Myron on November 09, 2019, 02:13:07 PM
Post by: Rapidray on November 09, 2019, 02:40:50 PM
That is just flat out beautiful. :drink:
Post by: Frailer on November 09, 2019, 07:40:34 PM
Here's one with name on box but without number to my regret. Just hope it is not wrong box ;)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-new-in-box-84mm-Victorinox-VICTORIA-1ST-TYPE-GOLFER-LONG-NAIL-FILE-VTG-SAK-/352785036988?hash=item5223a076bc%3Ag%3A6%7EoAAOSwXkVddBXs&nma=true&si=QDk9U8KUcyQzRq85LhXS32BT3uM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191109/ec7f8e16cc16ca89d52fb8593f53e28a.jpg)
Well...
I *thought* I had all the 84mm and 91mm Golfer variants, but I was clearly mistaken. And it looks like I won’t own them all any time soon.
Post by: Sawl Goodman on November 09, 2019, 08:55:34 PM
So I see that there is no Golfer Club thread. Maybe we don't need one, but it occurs to me that we could simply establish this thread (with a more findable/logical title) as the Golfer Club thread. Anybody else think this is a good idea?Seems sensible to me to make it a club, given it's turned into a general Golfer thread anyway. 8)
I've got no objection to the title changing. Its use by date has long passed!
Post by: kamakiri on November 09, 2019, 09:27:04 PM
Here's one with name on box but without number to my regret. Just hope it is not wrong box ;)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-new-in-box-84mm-Victorinox-VICTORIA-1ST-TYPE-GOLFER-LONG-NAIL-FILE-VTG-SAK-/352785036988?hash=item5223a076bc%3Ag%3A6%7EoAAOSwXkVddBXs&nma=true&si=QDk9U8KUcyQzRq85LhXS32BT3uM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191109/ec7f8e16cc16ca89d52fb8593f53e28a.jpg)
Suspect. ;)
Seems like the wrong type of box. I'd expect a single leaf like that to come out of one of the end-flap type with model numbers on it. Lots of post +PAT examples already do. I think the slider boxes start in the '73-'74 range and I think even the 84mm made the switch to double leaf black springs. Does it have the light green cardboard box liner?
:dunno:
Post by: Myron on November 09, 2019, 09:54:36 PM
I think the box is correct for this vintage of knife. In my humble opinion, it only really matters in terms of the historical evidence it provides for the six people on the planet who give a rip about what really constitutes a "Golfer" and what doesn't. In my view, this knife is a Golfer and it has an age-appropriate box that says Golfer. Pretty sweet set if you ask me, even if the two weren't married at the factory back in 1973.
Post by: kamakiri on November 09, 2019, 10:10:03 PM
Looks like the box liner is the green felt variety.
I think the box is correct for this vintage of knife. In my humble opinion, it only really matters in terms of the historical evidence it provides for the six people on the planet who give a rip about what really constitutes a "Golfer" and what doesn't. In my view, this knife is a Golfer and it has an age-appropriate box that says Golfer. Pretty sweet set if you ask me, even if the two weren't married at the factory back in 1973.
Yeah, green felt variety! :oops: :facepalm: I was just sitting at the computer to type about my mistake...
I don't think it *can* be right...knife from before yours and box from after? Now I'm pretty sure it was paired up recently.
I doubt there's any stopping people from calling LNF versions 'Golfer' regardless. Just like people will deny my '60s Golfer being a Golfer despite a catalog cut saying it is.
Post by: Frailer on November 10, 2019, 01:03:54 AM
Looks like the box liner is the green felt variety.
I think the box is correct for this vintage of knife. In my humble opinion, it only really matters in terms of the historical evidence it provides for the six people on the planet who give a rip about what really constitutes a "Golfer" and what doesn't. In my view, this knife is a Golfer and it has an age-appropriate box that says Golfer. Pretty sweet set if you ask me, even if the two weren't married at the factory back in 1973.
I’m no expert in Victorinox history. Not even remotely close. And the variety of boxes Victorinox used at different times in different markets is inscrutable to me.
With that said, I feel exactly the same way about this set, and I’ve love to own it. I’m just glad somebody snapped it up before I even had to consider whether or not to reach much too deeply into my pocket to acquire it.
Post by: Shalom on November 10, 2019, 05:27:09 AM
Looks like the box liner is the green felt variety.Actually it matters to at least the DOZEN people on the planet writing in this thread (and the thousands reading it) :D
I think the box is correct for this vintage of knife. In my humble opinion, it only really matters in terms of the historical evidence it provides for the six people on the planet who give a rip about what really constitutes a "Golfer" and what doesn't. In my view, this knife is a Golfer and it has an age-appropriate box that says Golfer. Pretty sweet set if you ask me, even if the two weren't married at the factory back in 1973.
Post by: Myron on November 10, 2019, 05:27:57 AM
I’m no expert in Victorinox history. Not even remotely close. And the variety of boxes Victorinox used at different times in different markets is inscrutable to me.
With that said, I feel exactly the same way about this set, and I’ve love to own it. I’m just glad somebody snapped it up before I even had to consider whether or not to reach much too deeply into my pocket to acquire it.
Same here. I think Kamakiri is a much greater student of these details, but I feel the same about this set, especially at the price it apparently went for. Hopefully an MTo member is the new owner.
Myron
Post by: jnoxyd on November 10, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Wow, what a beauty! Is this one on its way to you, jnoxyd?Myron, no, it's not mine
. Hope somebody here got it.I have earlier version (c.1957) of this knife called just 244 kaU that time.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191110/239bc4e5c3e452e39f8682cc1fb87267.jpg)
Post by: kamakiri on November 10, 2019, 08:22:24 AM
Same here. I think Kamakiri is a much greater student of these details, but I feel the same about this set, especially at the price it apparently went for. Hopefully an MTo member is the new owner.
Myron
I don't think I'm being clear.
I think the knife you got is the correct knife for the box. And more importantly, *is* a Golfer. I considered buying it if it's the one I'm thinking.
I *think* the one that jnoxyd posted is not the right box. I wouldn't consider buying it anywhere near the price 'shown' or even significantly cheaper since it looks like it was sold through the offer system. And it looks like there were there two sold like that...
Post by: jnoxyd on November 10, 2019, 08:37:31 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191110/75b3dad4c9bc142fce29eda6bdd08ad3.jpg)
Here are my pre Golfer and Golfers. BTW does anybody have 1950s-1960s pre Golfer without LNF?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191110/eb88317b446ce18e1645e1989e2f87e9.jpg)
Post by: Mechanickal on November 10, 2019, 08:47:17 AM
Consider me tickled...
Post by: jnoxyd on November 10, 2019, 09:36:37 AM
You have a MOP Golfer?! :sa:Yes 😋
Consider me tickled...
Post by: Mechanickal on November 10, 2019, 09:55:56 AM
Post by: Shalom on November 10, 2019, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: Mechanickal on November 10, 2019, 10:36:47 AM
Post by: jnoxyd on November 10, 2019, 01:05:36 PM
My "Proto Golfer" . 5 turn corkscrew, grooved. Tang stamps VSSR and Victoria Officier .With LNF . Similar to the one jnoxyd shows but no shackle, so probably later.Nice one, Shalom!
Post by: Rapidray on November 10, 2019, 02:09:14 PM
Great knives! :cheers:
Post by: Myron on November 10, 2019, 02:10:51 PM
Same here. I think Kamakiri is a much greater student of these details, but I feel the same about this set, especially at the price it apparently went for. Hopefully an MTo member is the new owner.
I don't think I'm being clear.
I think the knife you got is the correct knife for the box. And more importantly, *is* a Golfer. I considered buying it if it's the one I'm thinking.
I *think* the one that jnoxyd posted is not the right box. I wouldn't consider buying it anywhere near the price 'shown' or even significantly cheaper since it looks like it was sold through the offer system. And it looks like there were there two sold like that...
My turn to clarify what I said up there too. I was trying to say that I'm glad someone else bought it so that I couldn't have even been tempted by it, because yes the price was outrageous. And it certainly is a handsome set, even if the box and knife are mismatched. It would be nice to know for sure, but I also think that dealers and distributors did funny things back in the day too. For example, I have a Bantam that came in a box that has been marked-over Bartender. I know it's original because I'm the original owner of it. Perhaps this pristine Golfer and box set were similarly put together by a distributor or dealer at some point in its history.
(https://i.imgur.com/77s7VYm.jpg)
Post by: kamakiri on November 10, 2019, 03:55:03 PM
Perhaps this pristine Golfer and box set were similarly put together by a distributor or dealer at some point in its history.. That's my primary guess. I do think it happened a lot at that level. I do believe one like yours would be a factory/factory issued/authorized sticker to deal with a name change and existing stock.
As for the name Golfer for 84mm versions with and without LNF, we can agree with SAKWIKI using this name for both versions (and yes, 207k and 244k were not called Golfer, but can be called its predecessors)
Main reason I doubt that it's a 'predecessor' is that both appear to have overlapping production. Why would two different models ever have the same name at the same time?
Personally, I view the LNF version as more of a proto-Compact. Nail file on the back of the scissor... Victorinox clearly saw the difference enough to evolve Golfers toward having the specific divit tool instead of a blade. More like two lines share a common 'middle' relative in the early blade and hook Golfers.
Just my minority opinion...
Post by: Frailer on November 10, 2019, 06:02:48 PM
...Why would two different models ever have the same name at the same time?
An excellent question.
I wish I had known 30 years ago that I’d eventually become interested in collecting SAKs instead of just using them; I would have taken notes. As a result of this youthful oversight, I’ve been forced to rely on my increasingly failing memory.
One example: I remember receiving my first Compact around 1992. A British friend had to purchase one for me during a visit home, as there were none to be found from US distributors. I clearly remember the box being labeled “Compact,”and the knife had pen/pin plus scales, the mini screwdriver, and a parcel hook without a nail file. I gave that particular knife away years ago, so I can’t refer back to it to confirm. Nevertheless, I do have a knife from roughly this same period with these same features in its original gray sliding Swiss Army Brands box that is labeled “Golfer.” It also carries the model number 53801, which the Wiki states belongs to the “Special Golfer” (divot tool, no scissors).
This proves nothing; particularly as I can’t firmly fix the dates either of these knives was produced. I do, however, believe that Victorinox didn’t get terribly uptight regarding the names attached to many models, and I *suspect* identical knives might have been assigned different names by distributors in different markets.
I don’t think I’ve added anything to the ongoing discussion by sharing this, but I, for one, find these tiny details strangely fascinating.
Post by: kamakiri on November 10, 2019, 07:05:29 PM
I do, however, believe that Victorinox didn’t get terribly uptight regarding the names attached to many models, and I *suspect* identical knives might have been assigned different names by distributors in different markets.
They certainly didn't! Look at the Hoffritz naming in the '60s and '70s. Reused and recycled a LOT of names in the US concurrent with other distrubutor/dealers. I think the only one that was the same was for the Camper in the later half of the '70s.
One example: I remember receiving my first Compact around 1992. A British friend had to purchase one for me during a visit home, as there were none to be found from US distributors. I clearly remember the box being labeled “Compact,”and the knife had pen/pin plus scales, the mini screwdriver, and a parcel hook without a nail file. I gave that particular knife away years ago, so I can’t refer back to it to confirm. Nevertheless, I do have a knife from roughly this same period with these same features in its original gray sliding Swiss Army Brands box that is labeled “Golfer.” It also carries the model number 53801, which the Wiki states belongs to the “Special Golfer” (divot tool, no scissors).
I don’t think I’ve added anything to the ongoing discussion by sharing this, but I, for one, find these tiny details strangely fascinating.
I think you did add something interesting to ponder. Perhaps in some markets, the hook version was *always* a Compact! It would certainly explain the lingering confusion.
Post by: jnoxyd on November 11, 2019, 03:29:19 PM
Any close-ups somewhere or a dedicated post around it?Here’s special for you ;)
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Post by: Mechanickal on November 11, 2019, 03:33:17 PM
Here’s special for you ;):O
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/992bedbf737b28bd414d7969c566bb9f.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/5deefbd6d3e7acbf388afd7c86cadc8f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/0d150bd6d9ff42c025da340389ad07cd.jpg)
I thought I was clear of all grail SAKs by now... Then you came along :D
What a beauty...
Post by: Rapidray on November 12, 2019, 02:37:27 AM
Post by: hickory on December 22, 2019, 04:42:14 AM
Somebody gave me a Spartan and a DoE Pocket tool and I got sucked into the SAK vortex! Got a couple of climbers, not quite right, and the DoE is perfect except for no point, or small blade, and the Spartan needs scissors.
It got a little strange when I realized that I just 'had to' have two blades and scissors, and I had more or less given up until I found one of these 84mm 2-blade golfers. I managed to find one, can't wait to get my hands on it, and found this fantastic little forum. Thanks for this great thread! I registered to join the club. Very excited to have stumbled upon a knife that 'doesn't exist'... Those 244k proto-golfers are lovely! Nicely done, folks!
I suppose I'm just about set unless I can find a two-blade, scissors, with LNF. Two layers or bust? I'm just tickled, it's a little bit of nostalgia for me, I grew up in a Victorinox dealer store...
Post by: McStitchy on December 22, 2019, 11:55:29 AM
Sounds like you'll fit right in :D
Post by: Myron on December 23, 2019, 03:28:04 AM
Myron