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Title: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 13, 2006, 07:39:34 PM
 Are there any bicyclists here?  My new rediscovered passion is bicycling,and I'm wanting to put together a tool kit that will fit in the bike's bag. Does anyone have experience with Topeak multi-tools? How's the quality and usefulness? I'm also planning to add a Juice KF4, and most likely an Alox Bantam.
 I'll listen to anybody's recommendations,and if you can think of something I might have overlooked feel free to let me know( BTW,I am going to throw in a patch kit and levers).
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: David Bowen on October 13, 2006, 08:17:15 PM
I have a tool that I got from Gerber that features a crescent wrench with a couple allens and a chain tool, I can post a pic if you want. I don't bike enough anymore to use it, if someone wants to trade it for another tool ;-)

David Bowen
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 13, 2006, 09:25:19 PM
I used to be into all sorts of different cycling activities from mountain biking to long distance cycling.  In fact, at one point in my youth I was close to joining the Tour de France.  Unfortunately, I shattered a foot a few years ago, and now it's a little too crooked to pedal gracefully, but I still enjoy biking when I get the opportunity.  Most of the time now it's on a stationary bike in front of the TV though.  :-X

I think both Victorinox and Wenger have both offered tools for the cyclist in the past, but I am not certain if they are still available or not.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 13, 2006, 09:48:07 PM
David,
          Please post that pic if you would,that's one Gerber I haven't seen or heard of.I just mght be interested in a trade,or purchase. I really don't have qualms about Gerber like many others do..but then I've seldom put a multi through really heavy workouts;I'll generally reach for the dedicated tool for the job..or even better get the son-in-law to do the job ;D
 Def,
       I plumb forgot Wenger's Biking tools,Wengers just aren't represented in stores around enough for that brand to come to mind right off.I  had a Vic Sport Tool at one time and thought it a little too ungainly for me,you jarred my memory,Vic does offer a biking tool set with a couple wrenches,levers and I think a Spartan with a nylon pouch.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: J-sews on October 14, 2006, 02:29:49 AM
I think the Gerber tool David is referring to is the Cool Tool.

......but I don't have a picture.  :(
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: prime77 on October 14, 2006, 07:27:47 AM
I used to mountain bike all the time when I was a teenager growing up in the Catskills in upstate New York. Now my bike just sits on my back porch collecting dust :(  I wasn't in to multitools back then but I carried a Vic Soldier.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: shecky on October 14, 2006, 08:26:59 AM
There are lots of snazzy multi tools for bicyclists these days. They are generally a collection of Allen/flat/Phillips drivers in a folding mechanism. The fancier ones have things like hex wrenches, spoke wrenches, chain tools, tire irons and such, maybe even a knife blade and bottle opener!

Nashbar (http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?category=99&subcategory=1233&storetype=&estoreid=&init=y&pagename=Category%3A%20Tools) is a nice online dealer with decent prices.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 14, 2006, 08:57:24 AM
I just now popped into Nashbar's site;and some of those tools look like they might be handy for everyday use.My local bike shop has some.I'll probably wind up popping for one,and use it for a couple months and come back with a review.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: David Bowen on October 17, 2006, 03:06:01 AM
Sorry for not getting back sooner Bison, been extremely busy, here is alink for a thread about some biking tool and it mentions the cool tool along with a pic

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bikemagic.com/review/images/products/gerber_cool_tool_main.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.outdoors-magazine.com/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D251%26sid%3D04b0e541116c246df90c8fd2759e950a&h=235&w=200&sz=24&hl=en&sig2=kGmk0Sf1JQFLJgAYPl3JWQ&start=1&tbnid=FNf8nqCpp3nsuM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=88&ei=2Cs0RZahJrf2aNPTve0N&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgerber%2Bcool%2Btool%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN

If you want this tool let me know.

David Bowen
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 17, 2006, 03:48:46 PM
That looks very useful above and beyond biking.More than once I've been in spots where a crescent wrench would've been the ideal tool.It seems Gerber has been a bit more innovative than some other toolmakers.David send me a IM and we can knock out the details,,,I'd like to have that!
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 20, 2006, 03:50:43 AM
I wish I'd have had a nice tool when I was biking.  In my day you were considered advanced if you had a tire pump mounted to the frame, which never really did you much good if you got a flat!

My pump was mounted under the crossbar, and two water bottles, each mounted on the other bars.  Aluminum frames were just starting to make an appearance, but I couldn't afford one of those, so it was welded tubular steel for me, and since my bike doubled as a distance machine and off roader, it was HEAVY!  I wish I had a dollar for every mile I half carried, half dragged that bike when something went wrong.  I look at all the cool stuff available now and I think maybe I should start up again...

Good tools, titanium frames (hell, no one uses those old fashioned aluminum ones anymore!) puncture resistant, self healing tires, gel seats, digital spedometers- it's more comfortable than sitting in my living room!  My old speedometer was hooked to a dynamo attached to the wheel, and when you "turned it on" your speed dropped by ten percent from the resistance!

Of course a multi wouldn't have solved all the problems since each component was attached with a different fastener.  You needed a whole toolbox to change a tire and a fully stocked auto garage to fix a derailer!  Nowadays all the parts are standardized and many have quick change lugs.  Someone's been thinking!  With a decent (or dedicated) multi you could probably go for years without ever needing to open a toolbox.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: shecky on October 20, 2006, 04:51:58 PM
Nowadays all the parts are standardized and many have quick change lugs.  Someone's been thinking! 

Heh! If only! Why does my box one once-used bike tools seem to grow heavier each year?  ;)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 20, 2006, 06:19:27 PM
  After getting back into bicycling after a very long hiatus,I'm more than amazed about how much the landscape has changed. New materials and new classifications of bikes,not to mention companies that were under the radar,if they even existed 20 years ago,are now respected leaders in the field.
 But the VERY good news of all this is that SWMBO doesn't mind the money laid out...health and fitness always works as a good excuse..errrr reason !!
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 20, 2006, 09:05:26 PM
Nowadays all the parts are standardized and many have quick change lugs.  Someone's been thinking! 

Heh! If only! Why does my box one once-used bike tools seem to grow heavier each year?  ;)

When I was cycling, you needed a trailer to pull the tools you needed to change a tire!

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: J-sews on January 08, 2007, 12:12:48 AM
Here's a radical-looking Bike multitool that I came across on the net today. It looks like a person could almost build a bicycle from scratch with this contraption!

Link: http://www.procycling.be/?page=gewiktengewogen&artikelID=9#foto1
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 08, 2007, 12:56:52 AM
That one looks like an official Star Trek tricorder!

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Splat on January 08, 2007, 08:14:17 PM
See the thread I started a while back here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,457.0.html
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on January 22, 2007, 01:12:25 AM
I'm an avid cyclist with eight years experience as a bicycle mechanic and service manager.  Sorry, I just saw this post for the first time  today.

Here's my Topeak "The Alien":

(http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL486/2217790/14881002/224312370.jpg)

To separate the two halves of the tool, flip the bail 180 degrees to the other side, and press the button that the logo is on:

(http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL486/2217790/14881002/224312483.jpg)

The stainless tools in the foreground all lock 180 degrees from  closed position.  The serrated blade locks in the closed position also.  The release is a wide metal button on the backside, not shown.

The two halves work together to operate the chain breaker/rivet press:

(http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL486/2217790/14881002/224312463.jpg)

Tools include:
8,9,10mm 12-pt Box Wrenches (stainless)
2,2.5,3,4,5,6 & 8mm Allen Keys
Phillips and Flathead Screwdriver
Universal Chain Tool
2 Spoke Wrenches
10mm socket wrench
2 Tire Levers
Stainless Steel Knife
Bottle Opener (stainless)

I use the tool often, and it has never left me wishing for more options.  It is heavy, so it is only carried on my mountain bike.  I have a more minimalist toolkit for the road.

This tool is no longer available, but has been replaced by the "The Alien II" tool, which appears to have a very similar range of implements in a slightly lighter tool.  If you want a tool with an even wider range of implements, look into the Topeak "McGuyver".

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on January 22, 2007, 01:21:03 AM
That looks pretty cool!  I wish I still had a bike...

Do I need to have a bike to get one of those? :P

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on January 22, 2007, 01:34:44 AM

Nope!  But you should probably go out and buy a bike chain so you can use the cool rivet press.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on April 30, 2007, 06:28:05 PM
Actually, it has enough versatility,it could have some uses around the house.The rivet press could sub for a miniature vise for some applications,especially if you're a hobbyist.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: HighlandPark on June 29, 2007, 07:12:38 PM
that took quite a while till the name alien showed up. i have an alien II and those seem to be the only decent ones around here (germany). many others i have seen seem to be some sort of knock off.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on June 29, 2007, 11:24:55 PM
Welcome aboard !  Even though there are several quality tools on the market,the knock offs seem to prevail in the US as well.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 02, 2007, 04:59:46 AM
Wherever there are people who compromise effectiveness for cost there will always be cheapies and knockoffs.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on July 02, 2007, 07:53:29 PM
 I tend to be a cheapo from the other direction.My philosophy is to buy it right,and you only have to buy it once.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 02, 2007, 08:04:15 PM
That makes perfect sense to me, and I agree with you completely, but in the modern instant gratification type society we are in now, that kind of thought is getting rarer and rarer.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 03, 2007, 10:18:19 AM
.My philosophy is to buy it right,and you only have to buy it once.
sounds like we share the same motto mate :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 03, 2007, 11:52:33 AM
How does that old saying go?  "Buy quality and only cry once"   :grin:

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on July 03, 2007, 02:43:46 PM
How does that old saying go?  "Buy quality and only cry once"   :grin:

Def
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 03, 2007, 03:26:08 PM
The only big problem with that is that you get addicted to quality stuff, then you have to have more... and more, and more and more!

The theory is that you spend your money on one and it will last.  Where that theory fails is if you buy hundreds of them like I do... then it's false economy all over again!

My wife is starting to see through the "they are great quality and they will last a long time" argument.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on July 03, 2007, 04:08:35 PM
The only big problem with that is that you get addicted to quality stuff, then you have to have more... and more, and more and more!

The theory is that you spend your money on one and it will last.  Where that theory fails is if you buy hundreds of them like I do... then it's false economy all over again!

My wife is starting to see through the "they are great quality and they will last a long time" argument.

Def
                  I have the perfect defense...I'm building an inheiritance for my grand daughter..works like a charm!
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on January 07, 2008, 06:30:03 AM
Might as well bump this one too...
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: SxS on March 25, 2008, 09:06:38 PM
This is my only Atwood after a (weak moment) Sharkbite giveaway:

http://www.atwoodknives.com/home/19747341.php
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: edap617 on March 25, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
Why are Atwoods so expensive?
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: SxS on March 25, 2008, 10:13:45 PM
From what I can tell  :think:...they are decently made tools that have had the additional advantage of innovative design in such a simple form factor. The artisan (apparently) can only produce so many and that quantity has been almost uncannily the amount required to spawn 10 minute or less sales...along with grossly inflated prices immediately afterwards on e-bay.

I'm guessing that it has gotten to the point where the very second anything goes up on that site; quite a few folks have it programmed (somehow) to be aware of it and...they're gone.

The rest is simply a resale 'game' on e-bay that I don't believe Mr. Atwood is very happy with either. I'd like some other items that he has made or might in the future; yet the whole drama has frankly turned me off from being interested in something that I will never most likely have a chance in heck again of obtaining.

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on March 26, 2008, 01:20:21 PM
From what I can tell  :think:...they are decently made tools that have had the additional advantage of innovative design in such a simple form factor. The artisan (apparently) can only produce so many and that quantity has been almost uncannily the amount required to spawn 10 minute or less sales...along with grossly inflated prices immediately afterwards on e-bay.

I'm guessing that it has gotten to the point where the very second anything goes up on that site; quite a few folks have it programmed (somehow) to be aware of it and...they're gone.

The rest is simply a resale 'game' on e-bay that I don't believe Mr. Atwood is very happy with either. I'd like some other items that he has made or might in the future; yet the whole drama has frankly turned me off from being interested in something that I will never most likely have a chance in heck again of obtaining.



 Add to everything SxS said,Peter Atwood generally uses higher end materials for his tools. I'd still would love to have one though...it wouldn't be a drawer queen.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: edap617 on March 26, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
Are Atwoods made of titanium?
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on March 26, 2008, 01:34:57 PM
 Some models are,but  exactly which ones are escapes me at the moment.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Benner on March 26, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
From what I can tell  :think:...they are decently made tools that have had the additional advantage of innovative design in such a simple form factor. The artisan (apparently) can only produce so many and that quantity has been almost uncannily the amount required to spawn 10 minute or less sales...along with grossly inflated prices immediately afterwards on e-bay.

I'm guessing that it has gotten to the point where the very second anything goes up on that site; quite a few folks have it programmed (somehow) to be aware of it and...they're gone.

The rest is simply a resale 'game' on e-bay that I don't believe Mr. Atwood is very happy with either. I'd like some other items that he has made or might in the future; yet the whole drama has frankly turned me off from being interested in something that I will never most likely have a chance in heck again of obtaining.



 Add to everything SxS said,Peter Atwood generally uses higher end materials for his tools. I'd still would love to have one though...it wouldn't be a drawer queen.

I'd like one too.   :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: SxS on March 27, 2008, 09:45:22 AM
"..Add to everything SxS said,Peter Atwood generally uses higher end materials for his tools. I'd still would love to have one though...it wouldn't be a drawer queen.."

Agreed in terms of the only one I have also.
If I had a job where that nicely wedged hunk of steel needed to be hit hard on the other end with a rock or whatever was handy to get said task immediately out of our way...we'd determine very quickly just how well that particular material held up in short order.  ;)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 14, 2008, 01:24:09 PM
im using one large crank bros multi bike tool and this,although this is too fine with all those wood scales  8)
http://www.somafab.com/woodie20.jpg
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 15, 2008, 11:20:26 PM
im using one large crank bros multi bike tool and this,although this is too fine with all those wood scales  8)
http://www.somafab.com/woodie20.jpg
Now that I like :drool:
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/mickyd1234567/woodie20.jpg)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 16, 2008, 12:25:31 AM
have 2 of those,one 20 and one 8 tolled ones.good quality and suits me fine,i collect and ride vintage bikes too and that one fits into old tool pouch under seat,rather than one hi-tech carbon scaled ones ;)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 16, 2008, 09:57:53 AM
What vintage bikes have you got mate ???, I've got an old Rudge Roadster, that I'm supossed to be restoring :-[
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 16, 2008, 10:19:38 AM
ive got an 30´s Adler that i drive daily an done with really odd driveline,theres no chain,theres a drive shaft instead.
and an old Rambler from fifties,and loads of frames and parts from 10-70´s,one handmade PETO( = beast in english) track bike,one Campagnolo fixed gear track bike.i also sport one dirt bike(Planet x),one full suspension downhill bike( (anyon from germany ).


i´ve never seen a rudge bicycle,but im familiar to that tradename since my fellow garage friend is building a chopper,usinh rudge´s bighead(or was it redhead;)) cylinder heads,jap cases and selfmade cylinders.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 16, 2008, 02:56:37 PM
I've seen old photo's of shaft driven Adler's, they look bloody heavy, but damn good utility cycles :)

I wish shaft drive would make the same come back that hub drive has :)

Here's a pic of the rudge
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/mickyd1234567/1464185147_69423215ef.jpg)

I'd love to see some pics of you bike's when you've got the time mate :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 16, 2008, 03:11:51 PM
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/Perkele_13/sumstuff/ADLERRIISUTTUNA.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/Perkele_13/sumstuff/adleryxityiskohtii.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/Perkele_13/sumstuff/adleryksityiskohtii2.jpg)

heres my EDR ;) adler,i stripped the fenders out of it,otherwise its in original worn condition,just the saddle and tires are changed during time.

i have original saddle but ill have to make new leathers into it.its kinda cool,with a safetypin styled spring in front too.

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 16, 2008, 03:17:25 PM
That looks gorgeous mate :drool:, it's a good that you've left it as it is, I think if you restored it, it'd loose it's charm :)

And I tell you what there a lot more comfortable than modern bikes too :), it took me a while to get used to pull back bars, but once I did I can't help but wonder why they died out ???

You do have to be VERY careful getting of a front sprung saddle if your a bloke though :o :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on June 16, 2008, 05:15:02 PM
Nothing rides like vintage steel and if you couple it with a Brooks saddle,you're good to go.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 16, 2008, 05:39:34 PM
yo bison , u said it,i forgot to brag about brooks b17 i have ;).

got it from ebay,bit worn but luckily seller took it as "just an old seat like all of those tend to be,nothin special",so i got it cheap.


yep i dig those large frames that are assembled by real hands,with  hard soldering instead og just welding.

im 192cm tall so taht long distance between seat-crank and seat-bar is just heaven to my ass.

ive got some trade offers givin me multigeared city-hybrids with rocksolid aluminium frames,i really wouldnt trade to them ever.

in wood and dirt u use mountainbike but for trips and city only vintage rules  :D

(u have noticed how these threads turn...from tools to frames,from sheats to bikes etc  :multi:)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 16, 2008, 06:24:07 PM
Yeah the topic's do tend to wonder a bit :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: AndyTiedye on June 23, 2008, 07:03:23 AM
Wandering back on-topic…

I have the big Topeak tool but it is really heavy, so I usually leave it behind.
Most of the tool sizes on it appear nowhere on my bicycles.

I really like Wenger's "Mountain Bike" SAKs:

(http://web.mac.com/andytiedye/Site/bike-saks.jpg)

They are lighter than anything else I have found that includes a chain tool.

Another nice, light one is the Topeak Toolbar
(http://media.rei.com/media/697056Lrg.jpg)

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 23, 2008, 11:01:39 AM
Yep topeak are kinda hard to beat :)

As are the Wenger bike tool's...
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh46/mickyd1234567/DSC00497.jpg)

I got mine in a trade with Bob and it's great :)

So what bikes do you ride Andy??
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 23, 2008, 11:19:26 AM
Wandering back on-topic…

I have the big Topeak tool but it is really heavy, so I usually leave it behind.
Most of the tool sizes on it appear nowhere on my bicycles.

I really like Wenger's "Mountain Bike" SAKs:

(http://web.mac.com/andytiedye/Site/bike-saks.jpg)

They are lighter than anything else I have found that includes a chain tool.

Another nice, light one is the Topeak Toolbar
(http://media.rei.com/media/697056Lrg.jpg)

hey would u mind takin few pics more of that tiny bit holder/keyring thingy?
does those swiss ones have six/hex bits 4-5-6mm?


Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: AndyTiedye on June 24, 2008, 01:42:27 AM
So what bikes do you ride Andy??

A Calfee Stiletto recumbent for the road:
(http://web.mac.com/andytiedye/Site/me-on-stiletto.jpg)

a Specialized FSR xc for the dirt,

and for the playa:
(http://web.mac.com/andytiedye/Site/bmbike.jpg)

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 24, 2008, 10:46:21 AM
I love the Recumbent mate :drool:, I really would like to have a go on one, one day :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on June 24, 2008, 03:07:20 PM
Granted,'bents are a little scarce on the ground in these parts,and I haven't seen many,but I've never seen a fairing on one.Are there any attachment points or compartments for stowage?
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 24, 2008, 04:12:09 PM
There seem to be a lot of luggage option's on this one mate :)

http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/streetmachine.shtml
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on June 24, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
Looks like you could carry a good sized load that way.I've been wary of adding a rack and bags to the fork of the Raleigh,afraid it would change the agility.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 24, 2008, 09:30:32 PM
well the weathers are gettin so good that i assembled my bike and i guess ill pack up my edc and bike equipement and head out in the trails near the beach.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/Perkele_13/SSA50070.jpg)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Neil on June 24, 2008, 10:08:03 PM
I've got one of these on the way...
(http://www.singersoutdoors.co.uk/images/Swiss_army_knives/bike%20tool.jpg)
Now I just need a bike to go with it  :oops:

Neil
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 24, 2008, 10:13:29 PM
i would be glad to find someday that wrench and t-tool your kit has ;).
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 12:37:52 AM
I've got one of these on the way...
(http://www.singersoutdoors.co.uk/images/Swiss_army_knives/bike%20tool.jpg)
Now I just need a bike to go with it  :oops:

Neil
I've wanted one of those for AGES!!!
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Neil on June 25, 2008, 12:57:49 AM
Swap you for a bike  :D

.... what do you mean that wasn't even worth a try!


Neil
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 01:01:46 AM
Swap you for a bike  :D

.... what do you mean that wasn't even worth a try!


Neil
I've got an old 50's rudge I could trade ya :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 25, 2008, 06:35:00 PM
well the weathers are gettin so good that i assembled my bike and i guess ill pack up my edc and bike equipement and head out in the trails near the beach.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o212/Perkele_13/SSA50070.jpg)


oooo!  That looks like it would make a sweet little trials bike!
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 06:36:45 PM
Yep that looks pretty agile alright :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 25, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
well its some sort of combination of dirt bike and trail bike,its quite long and low,and aggressive steering,has 130mm marzocchi z series fully adjustable front fork,26" mavic 321 front wheel with xt hub,rear one is 24" and on magura hub,xt rear sprockets,xtr derailleur and sram´s trigger swithch,and one extra bit on gear cable,to make shifts easier.i sawd off the  rm brake studs off the frame and powdercoated it.has 36 teeth blackspire front sprocket,and aircraft aluminium bash ring,truvativ hussefelt chain guide,truvativ cranks and bb,and long spiked flat pedals,oversize bar.its ancent frame...from 1999 or so,planet x brand,i cant recall the model of frame.brake only on rear hub,its some shimano deore mechanical with 180mm disc.not the finest,lightest or most expensive but takes trails easily and doesnt mind any abusive driving in the woods.jumps good too.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Neil on June 25, 2008, 08:29:58 PM
Swap you for a bike  :D

.... what do you mean that wasn't even worth a try!


Neil
I've got an old 50's rudge I could trade ya :D


Nice bike  :)
I can just imagine bringing that home...  my wife raising an eyebrow, me explaining it just needs a little work, followed by her agreeing right after I'm finished redoing the bathroom, tiling the kitchen, fixing the oven and putting new felt on the shed.  You get the idea  :(

Neil
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 25, 2008, 09:05:53 PM
well its some sort of combination of dirt bike and trail bike,its quite long and low,and aggressive steering,has 130mm marzocchi z series fully adjustable front fork,26" mavic 321 front wheel with xt hub,rear one is 24" and on magura hub,xt rear sprockets,xtr derailleur and sram´s trigger swithch,and one extra bit on gear cable,to make shifts easier.i sawd off the  rm brake studs off the frame and powdercoated it.has 36 teeth blackspire front sprocket,and aircraft aluminium bash ring,truvativ hussefelt chain guide,truvativ cranks and bb,and long spiked flat pedals,oversize bar.its ancent frame...from 1999 or so,planet x brand,i cant recall the model of frame.brake only on rear hub,its some shimano deore mechanical with 180mm disc.not the finest,lightest or most expensive but takes trails easily and doesnt mind any abusive driving in the woods.jumps good too.

That fork makes the 26" front wheel look TINY.  It must have amazing travel on it.

You said that the steering is aggressive, but wouldn't that tall fork slow the steering down quite a bit by raking back the head tube angle?
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 25, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
yep yep but the wide bar again makes it faster,and shorty stem too.and mostly when its ridden,its about 20 percent lower.i dont know the actual word so i used"aggressive".but..i meen...its predictable,and reacts fast.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 25, 2008, 09:15:49 PM
That makes sense.  I didn't think about the stem length--that would definitely help to quicken the steering.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 25, 2008, 09:20:54 PM
im goin to turn it into single speed as soon as i have time to install 17t sprocket and spacers to rear hub,and throw away derailleurs etc.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 10:47:24 PM
im goin to turn it into single speed as soon as i have time to install 17t sprocket and spacers to rear hub,and throw away derailleurs etc.
Fixed of free wheel ???
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 25, 2008, 10:51:07 PM
not fixed,ill just bolt the single speed kit into hub i have now.i have fixed gead campagnolo too,made in cyclo cross style.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 10:55:38 PM
not fixed,ill just bolt the single speed kit into hub i have now.i have fixed gead campagnolo too,made in cyclo cross style.
Fixed wheel is too much like hard work for me :D, but they do look really good, without ugly derailieur hanging of them :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 25, 2008, 11:10:02 PM
ugly derailieur

Do you think this is ugly?  ???
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 11:14:07 PM
ugly derailieur

Do you think this is ugly?  ???
Nope, that exceptionally pretty :drool:, but it's old and it's italian, and thats a combo that can't be beat :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Roadie on June 25, 2008, 11:16:11 PM
It's old and it's italian, and thats a combo that can't be beat :)

Sorry to derail another thread but i had to jump on this comment:
(http://www.julieharrisphotography.com/in_between/images/old_italian_woman.jpg)

You sure about that Mike :D :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 11:18:04 PM
Mamamia, come too Mikey :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 25, 2008, 11:25:39 PM
 :ahhh  :D

Good stuff guys.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 11:26:17 PM
 :salute: :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 25, 2008, 11:40:44 PM
ugly derailieur

Do you think this is ugly?  ???


is that yours,u work with bikes too?
vintage+campagnolo+brooks is one of my favourite searches on Ebay 8)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: cryptrick on June 25, 2008, 11:47:17 PM
I've got one of these on the way...
(http://www.singersoutdoors.co.uk/images/Swiss_army_knives/bike%20tool.jpg)
Now I just need a bike to go with it  :oops:

Neil

Cool stuff mate, nice to see it went to a bloke who appreciates Victorinox stuff :)

Mike, if you're interested, Singer Outdoors seem to sell them - http://www.singersoutdoors.co.uk/showproduct.asp?id=266&pgid=85&r=85/X/0/0
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 25, 2008, 11:48:10 PM
Thanks mate, I checked them last night :), there very cheap too :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 26, 2008, 03:34:08 AM
ugly derailieur

Do you think this is ugly?  ???


is that yours,u work with bikes too?
vintage+campagnolo+brooks is one of my favourite searches on Ebay 8)

I was a mechanic and service manager at a bicycle shop for eight years during high school and college.  That picture isn't mine, but I used to own an early '80s Bianchi SpeSmurfpillssimo that had a Camagnolo Nuovo Record component group.  I miss that one terribly.  :cry:

Now I only have these:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2611425899_10d989d0b5_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2611425905_6354e6c1bf_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 09:05:35 AM
I love the Cannondales mate :drool:
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 26, 2008, 02:41:21 PM
I love the Cannondales mate :drool:

Thanks.  I really need to get something that is more practical for tooling around town.

I'm probably going to be moving out to the countryside soon though, so it may not be worth it.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 03:39:47 PM
I love the Cannondales mate :drool:

Thanks.  I really need to get something that is more practical for tooling around town.

I'm probably going to be moving out to the countryside soon though, so it may not be worth it.
Like a hybrid ???, or how about an Xtracycle for the grocery run :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 26, 2008, 04:58:44 PM
I'm not really looking for something to run errands on, just something more comfortable than the R1000.  I'm thinking along the lines of a touring bike with a Cro-Mo frame and panniers.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 06:02:18 PM
I don't really know whats a available over there, but a Dawes Galaxy would tick pretty much all boxes :) http://www.dawescycles.com/dawes/galaxy.htm
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: NutSAK on June 26, 2008, 08:47:08 PM
 :drool:  That is very nice.  :gimme:
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Neil on June 26, 2008, 09:41:30 PM
I don't really know whats a available over there, but a Dawes Galaxy would tick pretty much all boxes :) http://www.dawescycles.com/dawes/galaxy.htm

I had a quick look round their site.  I thought a Haarlem would be up my street, then I checked out the prices and quickly changed my mind :( 

Back on track, here's a higher res. shot of the Vic bike kit.  The other tools included appear to be made by blackbum.

Neil
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 26, 2008, 10:02:58 PM
u mean blackburn ;) ?

well the blackburn´s bicycle multitools are well made.just as topeaks are.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 10:05:26 PM
Looks good Neil mate :)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Neil on June 26, 2008, 10:19:38 PM
u mean blackburn ;) ?

well the blackburn´s bicycle multitools are well made.just as topeaks are.

Nah, I'm sure it says blackbum <sniggers>.

.... Sorry

Neil
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
''Nurse this man's due his medication'' :D
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 26, 2008, 10:31:19 PM
with the red u go up,with the yellow u go down but everything shows green.

i was wondering,that is there any decent quality multis to vintage cycles anymore made.i have some multi slot & c ring wrenches from past but ive only seem poorly made one in malls&shops recently.

(http://www.pyoratohtori.fi/kuvat/2006_10_07/120_2046.JPG)
(this is what ive got,its well made,not just stamped tincan crap)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on June 26, 2008, 10:33:35 PM
Yeah the old stuff is the thing to get :), the crap that comes with bikes these days is truly awful >:(
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on June 26, 2008, 10:47:50 PM
yes sir,id rather pay few euros more to get ugly paper wrapped set like that,than get cheap but"overfilled" hitech taiwanese bugger.

heres one shop that sells those,the owner buys old shop stocks and as he´s trye bicyclist too,he sells those to good homes in reasonable price.lots of fine vintage hubs with grease nipples etc  8)
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on June 27, 2008, 04:44:00 AM
The Dawes do look lovely;I think the nearest to the Dawes line here would be Jamis.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 04, 2008, 03:21:34 PM
I still don't have a bike, but that hasn't stopped me from picking up more bike tools.

Most recently I got this Topeak Mini 9 which I thought was pretty cool.

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Tarrodemierda on July 04, 2008, 04:09:34 PM
u picked the right one,sir,topeaks are really good quality and that holster well done too.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: I'm Still Bison on July 04, 2008, 06:07:03 PM
Even if you don't own a bike, bike tools still have a boatload of uses elsewhere...though lately,I've been using my levers a lot,seems like the in the last batch of tubes I bought,there was more than a few duds. >:(
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on July 05, 2008, 01:12:59 AM
I have always agreed that bike tools are handy little buggers, and compliment more traditional multis very well.  Few standard multis have allen keys and wrenches, and few bike tools have bottle openers, pliers etc.

A SwissTool/Surge/Diesel etc is a great thing until you run into something assembled completely with allen screws!

Def
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: jdailey4206966 on July 25, 2008, 05:39:31 AM
Buy you a newer Leatherman MT like the surge/wave/charge. All have universal bit adapters in them, and you can buy a toolkit with them for $20 that has 42 different types of bits.
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: AndyTiedye on July 25, 2008, 07:43:50 AM
Anyone have weight figures for the LM's?


Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Benner on July 25, 2008, 12:43:46 PM
Anyone have weight figures for the LM's?




Info like this and much more can be found on the wiki https://wiki.multitool.org/tiki-index.php?page=Comparative+Multitool+Weight+Chart
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: carlinpole on April 13, 2016, 01:37:51 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/304246124970cbf12240945e94fb602a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: rishardh on April 13, 2016, 07:16:08 AM
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Welcome to the forum  :cheers:  What is that tool?  Is that a removable tire lever?
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: carlinpole on April 13, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
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Welcome to the forum  :cheers:  What is that tool?  Is that a removable tire lever?
Hey thanks!  Yes is a removable tire tool with a lot of functions. A(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160413/f98065e207e010ac266142fa622f1a0a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: Syncop8r on April 15, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
Great thread necro!  :tu:
Title: Re: Multi-tools for bicycling
Post by: zoidberg on April 15, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
The slightly more recent thread, Show me your Bike Tools (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,63378.0.html).