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Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on October 29, 2011, 10:32:16 PM
I see loads of stuff about Vic but not so much on the Wenger line. Any reasons for this?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mr. Whippy on October 29, 2011, 10:43:05 PM
Harder to mod.  :(

Personally, I love the Wenger S557 AND the Ranger Mike Horn.  Really good SAKs.  My Mike Horn Ranger is a regular EDC, especially if I think I'm going to be driving a lot of screws/bolts.

The 85mm size is much more pocket friendly.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syph007 on October 29, 2011, 10:45:20 PM
For me, vics were all I owned or even knew about growing up.  I recently bought a keychain size wenger and the quality on it is pretty bad.  I don't know if that is representative of their whole line, but it turned me right off from buying any more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Tyler_ on October 29, 2011, 10:46:23 PM
For me it generally is the price.  Why buy a Wenger Traveler for $30something when you can get a Vic Climber for $25.  Especially when most people think Vic has better fit and finish.

Wenger does have some cool models though.  I must admit I have been looking at getting a Wenger Swiss Clipper recently.

Also:  That damned Wenger can opener.  Vic models win me over most of the time because of it.  Why settle for a single function can opener when the Vic gives you a can opener, small flathead, and small philips head driver.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chain Gang on October 29, 2011, 11:06:51 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 29, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
I collect both Victorinox and Wenger. My EDC for many years has been a Wenger Traveler. The 85mm length seems to fit my pocket better than the 91mm Victorinox, and the short Vics don't currently have scissors. Conversely I prefer the greater length of the Wenger Pocket Tool Chest to the Victorinox Mini Champ. On the other hand a Victorinox Huntsman is my usual choice when outdoors, and there's an old Champion sitting in the desk drawer as I write. Believe there's a Fieldmaster in the car glovebox, and a large 111mm Vic (don't remember which one) in the survival kit in the trunk. So both brands are in regular use.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: APS on October 29, 2011, 11:41:11 PM
When I was growing up Vics were far more common than Wengers and less expensive.  Now that I can afford either the reason I choose Vic is:
1.  the small screw driver on the can opener
2.  Vic reamer is actually useful
3.  majority of Wengers seem to come with a nailfile instead of the small blade.
4.  I prefer the slightly longer handle of the 91mm Vic
5.  You can get plus scales for the Vic

Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on October 30, 2011, 12:04:57 AM
Well since some people like them I have a freebie for you wenger fans. I received some free stickers in the mail. I will share them to the first five to ask.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jekostas on October 30, 2011, 12:14:25 AM
I like Wenger. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I prefer them - the scissors are my most used item on the SAKs I have and I like the Wenger backspring scissors better than the Vic leaf-spring scissors.  Also, just got some Wenger Fingernail Clippers and they're quite good (and fun to fiddle with).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 30, 2011, 12:36:57 AM
The ones who know me around these parts know I'm a real and dedicated wenger fan, my favourites being the commander, traveler and formost the forester/17 models. I actually collect the forester variations. What I like the most are the scissors and the can opener, and also the fact that some of them have a locking main blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on October 30, 2011, 12:44:02 AM
The very first Wenger I ever got was a second hand Forester and it was terrible, everything just felt wrong and lived up to all the bad press I'd heard about Wenger. :(  Then I got a Commander from Neil and a new 120mm Ranger and I was converted, both excellently well built SAKs.  Followed up with a Evo 17 and a SI and I couldn't be happier. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on October 30, 2011, 01:03:29 AM
I love the Evo type grips.I have a J10,EvoGrip 18 in yellow(oh so pretty..),a J554,EvoWood14(?),and a pair of Evo81s(Translucent blue and Patagonia Yellow).

Things I like1)Evo type grips,very good ergonomics!
                2)Scissors!
                3)Semi locking screwdriver
                4)Nail file on a decent sized SAK

Better than Vic?Maybe not,but they are very charismatic,and more inovative than Vic
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on October 30, 2011, 01:12:19 AM
I much prefer Vic to Wenger for various reasons, BUT, I really like the Wenger Standard Issue.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vemo on October 30, 2011, 02:28:11 AM
I really like some of the Wenger stuff. Sure it's not quite as high quality compared to the Victorinox but they make some interesting sometimes odd tool/knife combinations. I agree the Wenger Standard Issue is a solid piece and probably their best knife. The SOSAK 2010 KOTY, a Wenger EvoWood 18, is my always EDC and the huge Mike Horn Ranger if I need something stronger.
My favourite Wenger is my Director (thanks Felinevet!) 
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Director (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Director)
it has a manual telescoping pointer. I was an IT trainer back in the late 80's and the ultimate accessory was one of those pointers (I never had one). The fact that Wenger put one in a knife is just ultimate geek.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jmora on October 30, 2011, 02:52:51 AM
I tend to prefer Vic from what I have experienced. However, Wenger seem to be trying very hard to establish new markets, and to fix up their older problems, like weak backsprings. I have no trouble imagining what Vic knives will look like in two years - slightly improved versions of their classic models, but I'm pretty sure Wenger will surprise me in a good way with their new stuff.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on October 30, 2011, 02:20:15 AM
So no one wants free stickers? Just ask I'll send them to you. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 30, 2011, 03:42:52 AM
So no one wants free stickers? Just ask I'll send them to you.

Steve,

Thanks for the offer, but I already have an inch-thick pile of Wenger stickers, flyers and brochures; not to mention a dozen catalogs. By the way I checked with the Wenger store in Boulder recently and they still don't have 2011 catalogs.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on October 30, 2011, 09:09:20 AM
When it comes to the feel of Wenger backsprings I think we can be a little unfair.  Most of the time folks are comparing Vic's 91mm springs to Wenger's 85mm ones.  Now if we compare them to Vic's 84mm line the difference becomes far less obvious, if there at all. :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 30, 2011, 10:03:31 AM
Wengers are a lot less common, at least from my experience.
Most people, unaware of the Swiss Army knife history, assume that they are just trying to copy Victorinox, so they are of a lesser quality; so they do not buy them and prefer Victorinox.

I like the Wenger scissors feel and the locking flat screwdriver.
I also like their cigar cutter for its look, though it is not that good to use.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Woz on October 30, 2011, 10:05:43 AM
I prefer Victorinox because they have better built quailty, but I own some Wengers I really love. I would say Wenger makes the more innovative SAK, Vic more traditional. I like them both. An Evowood might be my next EDC.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: macabee on October 30, 2011, 10:50:39 AM
I have to agree with Woz, although I have a couple of Wenger SAK's in my collection, I do carry the evo-grip 18 in my rucksack when I go hiking. But generally I prefer Vic's.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on October 30, 2011, 10:59:28 AM
I prefer Wenger myself due to their very interesting design decisions when it comes to their tool selection.

Any company that would include a folding pointer into a folding knife is tops in my books.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Singh on October 30, 2011, 12:08:01 PM
The thing that stops me from buying a Wenger are the serrated scissors (too difficult to sharpen)



Title: Re: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 30, 2011, 12:43:52 PM
The thing that stops me from buying a Wenger are the serrated scissors (too difficult to sharpen)

Well than you can buy as many as you can cause these are self sharpening scissors and will never go dull. I edc'd one for 12 years, have even cut tin cans and wire with them. And they're still sharp.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jmora on October 30, 2011, 01:11:39 PM
When it comes to the feel of Wenger backsprings I think we can be a little unfair.  Most of the time folks are comparing Vic's 91mm springs to Wenger's 85mm ones.  Now if we compare them to Vic's 84mm line the difference becomes far less obvious, if there at all. :)
true, I never thought of that. At the same time, they are (or were?) more vulnerable to becoming weak (someone suggested that it is through a crack at the middle rivet, which is drilled too close to the edge of the spring or something). I have a 72 SI that has a strong knife layer, but very weak opener layer.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Singh on October 30, 2011, 01:45:47 PM
Quote
Well than you can buy as many as you can cause these are self sharpening scissors and will never go dull.

But how, exactly, do they self-sharpen?
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on October 30, 2011, 05:18:55 PM
2 sets of stickers claimed. 3 more available.
Title: Re: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 30, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
Quote
Well than you can buy as many as you can cause these are self sharpening scissors and will never go dull.

But how, exactly, do they self-sharpen?

I'm not sure, I believe it has something to do with the serrations, it's like they hone themselves every time you cut something. How ever they do it, they never get dull.

I forgot to mention the pressure locking screwdriver, anyone who had a vic or leatherman screwdriver close on their fingers should apreciate that.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on October 30, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
I'm a fan of Wenger. I don't have a huge selection of their stuff, but I do have some I really like. Swissgrip - what a beast, and such an excellent tool too  :tu: Motorist - all those tools in an 85mm chassis, and locking drivers too  8) Brushed stainless pocket tool chest - excellent 65mm tool. All three of these get plenty of use
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Sidhartha on October 31, 2011, 12:35:47 AM
i love wenger rangers  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tapong on October 31, 2011, 10:35:51 AM
wenger in my opinion has the better plastic. the tnt are discreet and the tools are far easier to open single handed (standard 85mm; yes, it's possible) due to the weaker backspring; some even have the locking blade.

i like these better than their vic counterpart: soldat, money clip, patriot, backpacker, classic scout knife (locking blade). and the entire 120mm line (plain edge).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: macabee on November 02, 2011, 10:23:26 AM
I have managed to source a Wenger champ model [new] I must admit that some of the older and discontinued models, Victorinox as well as Wenger do interest me :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: OndrejP_SK on November 03, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
In the 84/85/91mm category I prefer Vic for the better tools and ergonomy.

In the larger 111/120mm category I prefer the Wengers for their larger blade, larger saw and their better and safer unlocking mechanism.

I've recently bought a Vic Rucksack, Vic Trekker/Forrester and Wenger RangerGrip 78 (OH blade + wood saw). Of the three, the Wenger is the largest and heaviest, but has the best lock. The Vic slide lock on the Rucksack comes second and the left handed liner lock on the Forrester is the most awkward to use. On the other hand the locking flat screwdriver is better on the Vic Forrester, and definitely the Vic reamer and can opener... If only these parts could be swapped from Vic to the Wenger...
I'll probably just carry another 91mm Vic along with the Wenger.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 03, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
HI

Wengers is swell to collect, i really like the development shown the last years, active outdoors brand back to its roots, we are going back to where we belong Mr Hug sad.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 03, 2011, 03:53:47 PM
Here is a nice Wenger S18 Scout model.  Definetly some Wenger models are very nice.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2074)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 03, 2011, 04:15:00 PM

Yes, here is another picture
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Sazabi on November 03, 2011, 04:16:39 PM

Yes, here is another picture

Are the backspring tools any stronger than those on the smaller knives, or are the pivot holes just as close to the backspring edge as the 85mm line?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 03, 2011, 04:33:53 PM

Yes, here is another picture

Are the backspring tools any stronger than those on the smaller knives, or are the pivot holes just as close to the backspring edge as the 85mm line?

Hi, stronger!

I used the reamer through thick leather, it does not look like brass pins/rivets anymore looking inside the tool? The corkscrew is maybe the same or also stronger, it depends on if it is used correct
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Sazabi on November 03, 2011, 04:36:32 PM
That's good news. :tu:  Thanks.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 03, 2011, 04:50:09 PM
That's good news. :tu:  Thanks.

You are welcome!
Here is some on the Ranger blade, it gives directional cuts, not for the hardest wood, fairly well on Spruce, the saw will or can be used to take the load, tested it on different woods, harder to softer, thick to thinner, this is a giant saw on pocket tools.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: macabee on November 03, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
IMO the reason Victorinox is probably more popular in the UK, is that most outlets stock Victorinox and not Wenger, if you google for 'Swiss Army Knife' most websites will stock Victorinox, very few for Wenger this also goes for high street retail stores.

I do like both, whilst they are both are owned by Victorinox, Wenger are becoming more individual as a brand, not just a 'Swiss Army Knife' with the Wenger on the tang. :cheers:

PS: I like the scissors on the Wenger better.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 03, 2011, 05:22:35 PM
IMO the reason Victorinox is probably more popular in the UK, is that most outlets stock Victorinox and not Wenger, if you google for 'Swiss Army Knife' most websites will stock Victorinox, very few for Wenger this also goes for high street retail stores.

I do like both, whilst they are both are owned by Victorinox, Wenger are becoming more individual as a brand, not just a 'Swiss Army Knife' with the Wenger on the tang. :cheers:

PS: I like the scissors on the Wenger better.

Hi interesting,

not to break into this but, i would like to mention some on my view on the Wenger steel, it is sad that Wenger use the same French steel like Victorinox the Bonpertuis, we know that Victorinox have used different but mainly Bonpertuis, ok, i know that the Victorinox 111mm liner-lock range Services tools can not be beaten, it is outstanding well,
About the steel, there may be two different philosophies on the brands, Wenger has the combination of the flexible and the hardness of the steel, i do believe there are noticeable differences
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: meanx on November 03, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
Here is a nice Wenger S18 Scout model.  Definetly some Wenger models are very nice.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2074)

That will go really nice with this
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/MeanX101/WengerNewRanger55.jpg)

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/MeanX101/WengerScoutNewRanger55.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ashley on November 03, 2011, 10:52:01 PM
My only wenger was given to me by EDCGear and I love it.

It is the Mike Horn Edition Evolution 17
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on November 04, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
Being a lockblade freakazoid, I love the "new design" Wenger lockblade series.  Especially the Alinghi and Mike Horn. :tu:

Though I love my Leathermans, SAKs will always win in the "style department" :sak:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Eyegor on November 04, 2011, 02:36:38 PM
Another Wenger fan here although my modest assortment of MTs doesn't currently include any. My thoughts on most of the tools, can opener, scissors, etc. mirror what has already been said so I won't repeat them here. Likewise with the locks. As long as they keep making the SI Wenger will be doing OK.

I definitely have a soft spot for the Wenger Scout knives. Back in 83 or so my first "real knife" was a US BSA branded Wenger (I don't know the model). I still have hopes that knife will find its way back to me someday.

The Swiss Clipper AT or Esquire AT is on my short list to purchase as well. I'm glad to see I'm not the only fan of Wenger here. Please keep it coming.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 05, 2011, 03:44:40 PM

About the backspring tools, i tested the corkscrew and it works fine, use as many of the rings as you can, pull straight up and not in an angle,

no visible changes to any of the structure, one get much more power with a large tool like this, very easy.
enjoy it if you may need it...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 25, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
Owner's guide from 1975 for Wenger 85mm.  I forgot to scan this the last time I came across it.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2104)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dtrain on November 26, 2011, 02:58:43 PM
Of all the knives I have given or have been given to my son Cameron the two I see in his pocket the most are Wengers..Handyman and a Clipper

Dtrain
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Woz on December 09, 2011, 04:19:01 PM
Funny, lately I find myself liking Wenger even more than my Vics. I still like both companies, but carry a Wenger more often.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on December 09, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.

Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gadget Guy on December 09, 2011, 05:55:33 PM
Love my titanium Wenger Ueli Steck.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 09, 2011, 06:28:01 PM
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.

Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D

Here you go.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad)

I was on a search for all the Wengers with universal wrench (which is on the opposite side of the phillips) so I've done quite a bit of reading about these things. I picked up a Cyclist a week ago and am most likely going to do a mod with it (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33447.msg544018.html#msg544018).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ashley on December 09, 2011, 06:30:00 PM
I'm starting to really like wenger  :ahhh

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4188/img00185201112072214.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3977/1000813800x600.jpg)

Also have the Mike Horn but no pics.   :rant:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nikos on December 10, 2011, 06:35:41 AM
Well, here's my view on a s557: clicky (http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=534&Itemid=35). Long story short, very innovative design, but no cigar... :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on December 10, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
......but no cigar... :)

well, for a cigar you need one of these in the middle..  :D
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2d625243.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on December 10, 2011, 12:54:36 PM
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.

Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D

Here you go.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad)

I was on a search for all the Wengers with universal wrench (which is on the opposite side of the phillips) so I've done quite a bit of reading about these things. I picked up a Cyclist a week ago and am most likely going to do a mod with it (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33447.msg544018.html#msg544018).

Cheers mate  :tu: I'll keep my eyes peeled
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MirrorEdge on December 10, 2011, 04:05:30 PM
I need to think about another Wenger after the holidays. Swissgrip is excellent for at the boat, Motorist does actually live in the car kit, Stainless pocket tool chest on the gadget ring .... which leaves a serrated Traveller (which doesn't get enough carry due to being serrated). The Vic's seem to get all the general pocket carry.

Main decision is whether to go for whatever the thinnest option with inline phillips and scissors is, or .... no actually I just need to find out what that is :D

Here you go.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Nomad)

I was on a search for all the Wengers with universal wrench (which is on the opposite side of the phillips) so I've done quite a bit of reading about these things. I picked up a Cyclist a week ago and am most likely going to do a mod with it (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33447.msg544018.html#msg544018).

Cheers mate  :tu: I'll keep my eyes peeled

Maybe you should get a wenger champ  :rofl:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sergemaster on December 11, 2011, 10:52:02 PM
Amici,
Although I own and use both, I find myself after a long EDC of various vics but usually the Swisschamp, I find myself also returning to Wenger as still my preffered SAK.

Recently I purchased an Evowood S557 which I simply love for various reasons that I have posted throughout the forum whenever this topic is mentioned although originally I wasn't really feeling it bu no more.

One thing puzzles me and that's the layout betwwen the Evowood S557 and its counterpart the Evo  S585 with red scales and that is the layout of the scissors. To me, Wenger got it right with the S557 and goofed with the S585 since they're located right behind the lock release and can be quite a hassle to access compared to the S557 which swapped out the pliers for this position which makes better sense and looks better aesthetically IMHO.

I'll post pics of the two later once I return to the Eagles nest to illustrate my talking point more clearly to those not familair with either model.

Cheers,
Serge

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: legtu on December 19, 2011, 04:26:22 AM
i own and use both but prefer the wenger for most tasks. for edc, i do tend to carry the vic more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Adam Clark on December 19, 2011, 07:32:14 PM
Where I live, Victorinox is what the store shelves are packed with. Don't know why...... but because of it, I've never owned a Wenger SAK.... nothing against them..... just not able to find a store  :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on December 20, 2011, 10:59:59 PM
:oops:

Just ordered a couple more off the Catman - wrong time of year for me to be looking at looking at EDCSource  :-[ Deluxe stainless "coffin" cigar cutter with leather inlay and brushed stainless traveller soon to be mine :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D :D :D

For some reason I keep being drawn towards Victorinox for the normal (standard celidor) stuff and Wenger for the oddbods. Wenger just do oddbods so well  ;) I've also got a nice little assortment of 84mm Vics now for the smaller pocket carry, so I can afford to go for the more unusual and charismatic Wengers  :tu:

The "Weddings and celebrations" SAK, and EDC Wenger pocket carry bases are now covered  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D :D :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 23, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
Owner's guide from 1975 for Wenger 85mm.  I forgot to scan this the last time I came across it.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2104)

Hi that was a nice one, this put most of the dates i had in an ok timerange, nice.. i was wondering when the fishshellscraper got on, until now i have only tryed to date the lineguide...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: 5hif7y on December 23, 2011, 08:17:39 PM
i dont own a any wenger tools yet but i cant wait to get one. i luv the look of the purple scout tool, it looks great.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ashley on December 24, 2011, 02:20:47 AM
The scout(purple)is cool but I really don't like the locking blade. That lock digs into my hand bad.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: 5hif7y on December 24, 2011, 02:34:36 AM
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.

what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on December 24, 2011, 02:41:12 AM
I'm a big fan of my Evo17.  As it happens I've got a Commander in my pocket right now, Evo10 would be it's modern equivalent. :)
Title: Re: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 24, 2011, 02:49:10 AM
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.

what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?

If you like the tool setup of it, there are non locking versions of it availably too, also with classic scales. Just not in that colour.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 24, 2011, 06:21:22 AM
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.

what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?

Non-locking versions with that blade configuration include the plain-handled Handyman, and the Evo and EvoGrip 18. If you're looking for something a bit different the EvoGrip is also available in yellow and black. My EDC for a number of years has been a Wenger Traveler; basically drop the saw and change the phillips for a corkscrew. I think the 85mm knives ride better in the pocket than the 91mms, and the 84mm Vics don't currently offer a scissors.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on December 24, 2011, 10:27:08 PM
i didnt realise it had a locking blade. in that case i wont be getting one of those seeing as its not uk legal.

what would you recommend as a non locking wenger?

EvoGrip 16 or 18,any of the EvoWoods!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Adam Clark on December 25, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
I want a SwissGrip!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ashley on December 25, 2011, 08:28:37 PM
I recommend the evo grip 18. I just received one as a Christmas gift yesterday but can't seem to put it down.  :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 27, 2011, 06:08:46 PM
I'd recommed grabbing an EvoWood before they are no longer available.  Then you can look at the other evo grips.

This is an older Viking with Toothpick and Tweezers (not sure if it had a special name, since the Viking didn't include the T&T in standard configuration).

It's scratched up a bit more than the photos show (electronic polish applied), but it up off ebay just because it is branded with the crest of the Swiss military Mountain Infantry 12th Brigade.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MirrorEdge on December 27, 2011, 07:06:01 PM
This is an older Viking with Toothpick and Tweezers (not sure if it had a special name, since the Viking didn't include the T&T in standard configuration).
I think it's wenger commander
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 27, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
This is an older Viking with Toothpick and Tweezers (not sure if it had a special name, since the Viking didn't include the T&T in standard configuration).
I think it's wenger commander
No the Commander has a nailfile/cleaner instead of the small blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 27, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
There's a version of the Viking with t&t that was sold in Europe as the Classic 101 (1.10.19). Also had a key ring rather than the short chain found on most Vikings. Neat looking logo by the way.  :tu:

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on January 13, 2012, 11:47:46 PM
In the past two weeks, I've discovered Wengers other than the SI. I picked up an Evogrip S18 on a whim on New Years' Day, and promptly fell in love with it. What a great knife! My only Wenger on December 31st was an '01 dated SI. I now have 4- I've also picked up an Evowood 18 and an Evo16 lately. The ONLY issue with any of them was that the nail file on the 16 dragged a bit on opening, wouldn't close all the way. A bit of mineral oil fixed that quickly, it's fine now. The Evo16 was in my pocket all day, and I've used every tool on it except for the can opener through the course of the day. I even used the nail file to turn a small screw that the Phillips couldn't get to, worked like a charm. The Evowood18 will be in my pocket tonight in a semi-formal situation. Ahhhh! A new direction for my sickness! Hi, my name's Tom, and I'm DEFINITELY a SAKaholic.......
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kmanct3 on January 14, 2012, 04:01:06 AM
I am loving my new Original Matterhorn i won on ebay !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ashley on January 14, 2012, 04:18:55 AM
Hi, my name's Tom, and I'm DEFINITELY a SAKaholic.......

Hi Tom! My name is Ash and I suffer the same problem.

Sent from my Ash forum mobile
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on January 14, 2012, 05:40:37 AM
I am loving my new Original Matterhorn i won on ebay !
Come on! Photos already. We need photos! please.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jojotlc on January 14, 2012, 07:29:57 AM
let me upturn my small tool box, if there Wenger in it..pics when im back home
i recalled' there is Supergrip, RangerAlinghi,MikeHorn small'...arghhhh ..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 10, 2012, 07:34:25 PM
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2210)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on March 10, 2012, 07:42:13 PM
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2210)
That is cool! Is it a pin or what?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 11, 2012, 12:00:38 AM
<image (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2210)>
That is cool! Is it a pin or what?
This is an older, somewhat larger, lapel or hat pin; it measures roughly 28.25mm x 22.5mm.  The bronze background is not part of it, just a convient holder.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 12, 2012, 02:52:05 PM

nice pin!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on March 12, 2012, 05:01:49 PM
My S557 arrived today, and I must say-I think I'm in love  :). F&F are great, I like the pliers better than those on my Deluxe Tinker, and the wrench is a nice addition.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cb51 on March 12, 2012, 11:35:05 PM
Lots of love here for Wenger.

One of my favorite sak's is a Wenger SI, and sometimes in dress up clothes I carry a Wenger patriot. The patriot is an ideal pen knife, with a ring that can be attached to a watch chain.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2012, 04:38:06 PM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=32697;image)   like this and love wenger

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dodge_911 on March 14, 2012, 01:21:40 AM
Last night, while digging around in a box that came from my parent's attic, I found my 2nd SAK ever... A Wenger... but what's it called again?
(http://cl.ly/2E2Y2C0e1I0I1Y1i2Q1A/whatwenger02.JPG)
(http://cl.ly/2b081S2x3W2E1K1J0c1u/whatwenger01.JPG)
This being the Wenger thread and this being my only Wenger (not counting my Hybrid Bantam), I thought this was the place to ask...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 14, 2012, 01:38:17 AM
It's the Matterhorn plus.

Here's more info.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn+Plus
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dodge_911 on March 14, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
It's the Matterhorn plus.

Here's more info.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn+Plus (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn+Plus)
Thanks dude!
Along with a SwissChamp coing from Reinier, I got my two first SAK's back, albeit that the SwissChamp is a replecement. My first one got confisquated in boarding school :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 19, 2012, 04:07:35 AM
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2222)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: badwolf on March 19, 2012, 05:40:04 AM
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2222)
I do like these Wenger's with the fold out pliers, although, as yet, not had a play with one. This 90 ticks a lots of boxes for me :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 19, 2012, 09:22:05 PM
I like this one, is this the special order Russian one from that thread a year or so ago? What was the price on it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 19, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.
<image -see above>
I like this one, is this the special order Russian one from that thread a year or so ago? What was the price on it?

Nope, this is the new 2012 model we've been talking about in the other thread on the NewRanger 90.  Price was around 125, but I'm hoping felinevet will be able to do much better when he gets them in.  I was too, lazy to wait to find out.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 19, 2012, 11:47:49 PM
New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.
<image -see above>
I like this one, is this the special order Russian one from that thread a year or so ago? What was the price on it?

Nope, this is the new 2012 model we've been talking about in the other thread on the NewRanger 90.  Price was around 125, but I'm hoping felinevet will be able to do much better when he gets them in.  I was too, lazy to wait to find out.

Ah, yes, I found the original thread, the Russian one had a longer file and no pliers.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23026.0;attach=24992;image)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html)

Are there any other models that include this long metal file?

Edit: to answer my own question :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Frankctz on March 22, 2012, 09:21:37 PM
These 2 wengers are the best knives for me, i know the Wenger RangerGrip 90 can be buy directly from Wenger web page or ebay and probably in other stores, but there is a way or site I could buy the Russian version (the one with long file), or is no available for US?
Thanks.


New for 2012, the Wenger RangerGrip 90.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2222)



Ah, yes, I found the original thread, the Russian one had a longer file and no pliers.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23026.0;attach=24992;image)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,23026.0.html)

Are there any other models that include this long metal file?

Edit: to answer my own question :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerGrip+88+Rescue)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Grateful on March 22, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
 That Ranger Grip 90 is Bad @$$ . That would make a sweet stand alone edc folder .
Jim
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 24, 2012, 01:50:06 AM
As far as I know Ranger-East was very limited, it would be hard to obtain.  The RangerGrip-88 though is a little more available, but not easy from North America.

I'd love to get my hands on the Ranger-East and RangerGrip 88.  If anyone can help me out please send me a PM.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on May 03, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Current lack of funds aside  :( I'm starting to think that there's nothing in Wengers current offerings that grabs me. I still like the older 85's ... really like them ... but after a lot of thought I've come to the conclusion that their recent trends are just really not for me:


I know I've said this elsewhere before but I REALLY like the Wenger brand, and I'm going to keep carrying and using the Wengers I have for many many years ... but I can't see me buying ANY of their newer items, save maybe the NewRanger 90 if I have another drunken midnight spending spree
:facepalm:

Sorry Wenger, it was nice while it lasted - but unless things change I think we're done  :-[
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 03, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
I share your thoughts on the evo scales. They looked interesting on the pictures but when I first got one, it took me one second to realise they were not for me. I don't have a problem with the locking blades but the offering of the in line phillips on more current models would be great. Did you see the new-ish wenger classic 132, it has an in line 2D phillips instaid of the nail file, classic scales and a non locking blade. I would like it better if the saw would be replaced by scissors, to make a traveler with an in line phillips, but that's an easy mod.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Smaug on May 03, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
@ 50 ft trad: Are you objecting in theory or in practice?

Why don't you like the locking blade on their 85mm models? I think it's pretty brilliant. The lock release does protrude a bit, so it is not as smooth in the pocket as an 84 mm Victorinox. The lock release looks like it'd be in the way of a good grip, or like it would be tripped by accident. But that is not the case in practice.

I quite like the Evo and EvoGrip scales. They do make the knife thicker, but they feel good to me. I also like that they curve to fit into the palm of the hand.

They're made out of a softer plastic than Victorinox's Cellidor, so I think they're less likely to chip and crack. I haven't dropped one yet, so I don't know for sure. I did notice yesterday that it is possible to dent them with a hard push of a thumbnail, but again, this is a problem only for people who analyze things too much.

There are lots of 85 mm models without locking blades. Take a good look on wenger's website. The trend is toward locking blades, but there are still lots of models available without them. One of my favorites is the EvoGrip S16. But they also make an EvoGrip 16 (no 'S' = no lock) and an Evo 16. (no 'grip' = no rubber inserts.) I bet they make something equivalent in the traditional series too.

Their scissors are brilliant; much heavier duty than Victorinox's. The little slip-joint pliers too, which utilize the backspring instead of having the relatively fragile leaf spring of Victorinox.

I was considering an RangerGrip 90, but I too was turned off by the $130 price tag. I also realize that I would rarely need a pliers and a saw in the same knife, especially such a huge one. So I bought a 78 and a 73 for the same or less money.

I like that Wenger's tools and designs are generally more innovative. (Victorinox's driver layer in the CyberTools being the lone exception) For instance, automatic locking screwdrivers, the small wrench, serrated scissors for cutting heavier things.

I guess in the end, they have their pros and cons, and you just don't care for their pros, so you're more of a Victorinox guy.

Most of my collection is Victorinox too, but I acquired most of them before I gave Wenger an open-minded chance.

Now I have 4 Wengers and probably more on the horizon. Maybe a Pocket Toolchest?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on May 03, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
I've only got the one Wenger (minigrip) and I'm really impressed with some of the differences with Victorinox.

The locking screwdriver is just pure brilliance and I'm really shocked Vic haven't utilized it already.

They approach things more inventively and are willing to take risks. Maybe a good or a bad thing depending on the result?

The knife blade is thinner, but what real difference does that make if you're using the blade as a blade?

I like the woodsaw on the minigrip - not sure if this is a Wenger wide thing but the etched ruler scale is a lovely touch that I wish Vic would incorporate.

The awl is a let down, being an important tool, and I don't like the toothpick that much.

The locking blade is only an issue in places like the UK where it immediately renders an knife illegal. I wouldn't hesitate to only carry knives which lock otherwise.

All in all though, my (albeit very little) experience with Wenger makes me want to seek out more of them to try out.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on May 03, 2012, 02:59:01 PM
I share your thoughts on the evo scales. They looked interesting on the pictures but when I first got one, it took me one second to realise they were not for me. I don't have a problem with the locking blades but the offering of the in line phillips on more current models would be great. Did you see the new-ish wenger classic 132, it has an in line 2D phillips instaid of the nail file, classic scales and a non locking blade. I would like it better if the saw would be replaced by scissors, to make a traveler with an in line phillips, but that's an easy mod.

The old Travellers are probably my favourite Wengers, and an inline Phillips would be great ... not too fussed about 2D though. I'll probably continue to grab the occasional "old" Wenger or two from Tim and other members here when funds permit, and maybe one day I will eventually get round to doing a SAK modification of my own.

@ 50 ft trad: Are you objecting in theory or in practice?

Why don't you like the locking blade on their 85mm models? I think it's pretty brilliant. The lock release does protrude a bit, so it is not as smooth in the pocket as an 84 mm Victorinox. The lock release looks like it'd be in the way of a good grip, or like it would be tripped by accident. But that is not the case in practice.

I quite like the Evo and EvoGrip scales. They do make the knife thicker, but they feel good to me. I also like that they curve to fit into the palm of the hand.

They're made out of a softer plastic than Victorinox's Cellidor, so I think they're less likely to chip and crack. I haven't dropped one yet, so I don't know for sure. I did notice yesterday that it is possible to dent them with a hard push of a thumbnail, but again, this is a problem only for people who analyze things too much.

There are lots of 85 mm models without locking blades. Take a good look on wenger's website. The trend is toward locking blades, but there are still lots of models available without them. One of my favorites is the EvoGrip S16. But they also make an EvoGrip 16 (no 'S' = no lock) and an Evo 16. (no 'grip' = no rubber inserts.) I bet they make something equivalent in the traditional series too.

Their scissors are brilliant; much heavier duty than Victorinox's. The little slip-joint pliers too, which utilize the backspring instead of having the relatively fragile leaf spring of Victorinox.

I was considering an RangerGrip 90, but I too was turned off by the $130 price tag. I also realize that I would rarely need a pliers and a saw in the same knife, especially such a huge one. So I bought a 78 and a 73 for the same or less money.

I like that Wenger's tools and designs are generally more innovative. (Victorinox's driver layer in the CyberTools being the lone exception) For instance, automatic locking screwdrivers, the small wrench, serrated scissors for cutting heavier things.

I guess in the end, they have their pros and cons, and you just don't care for their pros, so you're more of a Victorinox guy.

Most of my collection is Victorinox too, but I acquired most of them before I gave Wenger an open-minded chance.

Now I have 4 Wengers and probably more on the horizon. Maybe a Pocket Toolchest?

I'll try to keep this brief (wish me luck)  :rofl:

I dislike locking blades in general, and think they're LESS safe than slippies. If a slippie isn't up to a particular job then I want a fixed blade. Locks just annoy me, slow me up, and cause more nicks and cuts than they avoid. I've had far more injuries from using lockers than slippies.

I enquired a while back with the UK importer about Classic scaled Wengers with non-locking blades an inline phillips drivers, and was told that would only happen as a special run with a minimum quantity of whatever it was.

The Evo scales for me are just plain uncomfortable. I bought an Evo equivalent to the Traveller (I forget the number offhand), and I gave it away as I found it an awful knife/tool to use.

I love their Classic tools, the locking drivers, the scissors, the pliers, the can opener, the 85mm frame ... that said the Pocket Tool Chest is also one of my favourites. Mine (brushed stainless scales) is currently missing and I hope it turns up soon  :(  For me Wenger was great, and the answer to everything that was missing from the Vic 84mm line, till they added locks and Evo scales  :-\

The innovation is still there, the quality is still there, they're just .... moving away from what I personally want from them, and I'd just like to see their scales and knife blades go back to the way they were ... or at least be able to freely get hold of Classic versions of everything. Hopefully they'll start offering more classic non-locking comprehensive 85's (especially with inline 3D phillips) in the future ... but I think I might be clutching at straws there.

Many people seem to feel unsafe with a non-locking blade these days, and oddbod traditionalists like me are the minority. I just hope Victorinox doesn't go the same route.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 03, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
The old Travellers are probably my favourite Wengers, and an inline Phillips would be great ... not too fussed about 2D though. I'll probably continue to grab the occasional "old" Wenger or two from Tim and other members here when funds permit, and maybe one day I will eventually get round to doing a SAK modification of my own.

 :pok:   :D


(http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr294/nickpong/P4040041.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on May 03, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
I know, I know  :twak:

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

:D

(I'd have to keep the opener layer though - far too useful for me to leave out)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 05, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
Here is an image of 3 Wenger Esquire models in Stainless steel.  The polished one is polished so well it's like a mirror and one might take it quite easily for polished Sterling.  I think for the most part these are still available.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=34434;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sergemaster on May 05, 2012, 04:35:04 AM
Very nice, nothing better than SS scales on any SAK, congrats!

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 05, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
Wenger S18 Juinor Special Edition for the movie "Dolphin Tale", which in Germany is titled (translated) "My Friend the Dolphin".

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=34452;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 06, 2012, 01:59:19 AM
Posted this to another thread, but should put it here as well for the future.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=34408;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 06, 2012, 03:22:55 AM
Wenger S18 Juinor Special Edition for the movie "Dolphin Tale", which in Germany is titled (translated) "My Friend the Dolphin".


I love the blue colour on that one, but shouldn't that be S17?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 06, 2012, 04:02:40 AM
Wenger S18 Juinor Special Edition for the movie "Dolphin Tale", which in Germany is titled (translated) "My Friend the Dolphin".


I love the blue colour on that one, but shouldn't that be S17?

Ooops... your right... S17
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: JAfromMn on May 06, 2012, 05:23:18 AM
I love my wengers

I got a zermatt in my pocket today.

I like all the odd tool combos they make.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cannonball on May 06, 2012, 06:46:30 PM
I have 17 SI's. I guess that is love.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sergemaster on May 06, 2012, 08:09:47 PM
Amici,

You gotta love Wenger!

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 06, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
I have 17 SI's. I guess that is love.

True love starts only from the 18th   ;)  So hurry up to get it....  :D

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Smaug on May 07, 2012, 03:14:47 AM
Truth be told, I feel a little guilty that I was such a stubborn Victorinox fanboy for all those years before finally really opening my mind to Wenger. If there were fewer people like me, and more open-minded folks, maybe they could have stayed independent.  :(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on May 07, 2012, 04:43:27 AM
Truth be told, I feel a little guilty that I was such a stubborn Victorinox fanboy for all those years before finally really opening my mind to Wenger. If there were fewer people like me, and more open-minded folks, maybe they could have stayed independent.  :(

I was the same way for quite a while, and not only with SAKs.  I had the opinion that Wenger and Gerber were both cheap knockoff companies, not worthy of any thought.  Boy has that changed - my standard loadout for a while now has been my MP450 and Evo 16.......
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 07, 2012, 11:55:58 AM
While I collect both Wenger and Victorinox knives, to be honest I prefer Wenger's.
I think that sometimes the tools included by Wenger (i.e. metal magnifying glass,  wrench, scissors) are worth alone the price of the full SAK....
... and not considering some funny ones, too
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 07, 2012, 07:10:18 PM
Truth be told, I feel a little guilty that I was such a stubborn Victorinox fanboy for all those years before finally really opening my mind to Wenger. If there were fewer people like me, and more open-minded folks, maybe they could have stayed independent.  :(

I was the same way for quite a while, and not only with SAKs.  I had the opinion that Wenger and Gerber were both cheap knockoff companies, not worthy of any thought.  Boy has that changed - my standard loadout for a while now has been my MP450 and Evo 16.......
Same story here.  In my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten; it fulfilled all the negative stereotypes people talk about.  Put me right off them for ages. :-\  Then I got a Commander from Neil and absolutely loved it and happily got a few more.

My story with Gerber is similar in that I picked up a Suspension in a store, thought it was rubbish and wrote off the whole Gerber line. ::)  Happily I decided to give them a second chance and asked for a MP600 a couple of Christmases ago.  Happily sliding pliers ever since. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Smaug on May 07, 2012, 08:56:59 PM
My story with Gerber is similar in that I picked up a Suspension in a store, thought it was rubbish and wrote off the whole Gerber line. ::)  Happily I decided to give them a second chance and asked for a MP600 a couple of Christmases ago.  Happily sliding pliers ever since. :D

Gareth, do you ever find the Gerber can pinch the hell out of you if the pliers suddenly lose traction while gripping them hard? I got a blood blister on the palm of my hand in the 80s with the Gerbers first came out that I'll never forget, and wrote off the whole series. If this problem has been solved, do you know how?

Also, the original Multi-Plier didn't have the tip of the pliers protrude through the end of the tool. (which tends to eat sheaths) Have they solved this problem yet?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 07, 2012, 09:35:13 PM
My story with Gerber is similar in that I picked up a Suspension in a store, thought it was rubbish and wrote off the whole Gerber line. ::)  Happily I decided to give them a second chance and asked for a MP600 a couple of Christmases ago.  Happily sliding pliers ever since. :D

Gareth, do you ever find the Gerber can pinch the hell out of you if the pliers suddenly lose traction while gripping them hard? I got a blood blister on the palm of my hand in the 80s with the Gerbers first came out that I'll never forget, and wrote off the whole series. If this problem has been solved, do you know how?

Also, the original Multi-Plier didn't have the tip of the pliers protrude through the end of the tool. (which tends to eat sheaths) Have they solved this problem yet?

Well the tips do stick out on the MP400 and MP600 but I've not had one poke through a sheath yet.

As to the palm pinching; I've played with the old Multi-Plier and can well imagine the potential damage. :-\  Happily this has never been a problem with the MP600/MP400 or Octane in my experience.  When the pliers are deployed the gap between the handles is lage enough that I've never felt in danger.

On the other hand I did manage to pinch my hand with my LM Wave earlier today. ::)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Donald on May 08, 2012, 04:07:09 AM
I love that hammered stainless in the Esquire.

Gareth, ironically my first SAK was a Wenger 1 17 01 which I have retired in favor of an Evo S17. My next knife was a Gerber, the Gerber Paul Knife.

It was actually the predecessor Paul knife to the one in the below picture. The Gerber is second from the top.


(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4852/handfulofpocketknivesu2paulmed.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Donald on May 08, 2012, 04:37:14 AM
I love Wenger and Victorinox! :D
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1630/redrinaldisaksoutriders.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: borgwarrior on May 08, 2012, 08:43:51 AM
First, I was Vic only. Than I got a Realtree 55 as a present, and I fell in love with Wenger ever since. :)

(http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/5/8/ov5j85deu8l87t3yp1w0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2012, 09:31:31 AM
I do remember that when I first got into SAKs and SOSAK back in 2008 Wenger's name was pretty much mud with a lot of members.  It is very pleasing to hear so many people have become fans. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on May 08, 2012, 10:48:23 AM
Quote
In my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten

What model was it out of interest?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2012, 11:12:54 AM
Quote
In my defence the first Wenger I got as an adult was second hand and was rotten

What model was it out of interest?
IIRC it was a Wenger Forrester.  Funnily enough I found out that my first ever SAK was a Forrester as well, though that one was lost a long time ago when I was still a kid.  Now I have an Evo17 and love it.  Can we see a trend? :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on May 08, 2012, 11:24:49 AM
So is the Forester a Huntsman equivilent? What made it rotten?

Seems to me that what folk like about Wenger is the little improvements they make over the Vic standard (locking SD, metal mag glass, scaled ruler) and other innovations. Would that sound right?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 08, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
So is the Forester a Huntsman equivilent? What made it rotten?

Seems to me that what folk like about Wenger is the little improvements they make over the Vic standard (locking SD, metal mag glass, scaled ruler) and other innovations. Would that sound right?
well on that particular one the springs were very flabby, the corkscrew was bent as was the blade. Turns out one of the liners was cracked. :\  I now don't think it was Wengers fault but just that it had had a hard life.  at the time though it just confirmed all the bad things I had been told to expect.

Oh and yes the Forrester is nearly the same as the Vic Huntsman except the small blade is replaced with a nail file on the Forrester. :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on May 08, 2012, 01:37:58 PM
Kinda late to this party but I really dig Wenger knives, the Adirondack is one of my fave's.  I plan on picking up another from Felinevet soon.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on May 08, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
Despite my earlier rant, I'm still a fan of the old stuff and a Traveller is back in my pocket again today
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on May 08, 2012, 01:57:23 PM
Despite my earlier rant, I'm still a fan of the old stuff and a Traveller is back in my pocket again today

The traveler is another oldie but goodie.  I had one a while back that I donated to a friend in need.  Awesome SAK, it's another on my MT bucket list.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Smaug on May 08, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
I tried to open a coffee can with my Wenger EvoGrip S16 this morning, and it was an epic FAIL. If that were a can of beans and I were stuck in the wilderness with nothing else to eat, I wouldn't have starved. But I would have sliced my fingers up, gotten infected, and died from gangrene.

It left sharp, jagged edges on both the outside AND inside of the cut lid, and I was only able to cut about 2" before it couldn't get purchase on the rim any more.

That said, I suppose this can opener was designed for smaller food cans, like 20 oz. and under, and for that, I recall it working just fine.

Wenger should beg and plead with Victorinox to "share" the can opener technology, or they should just leave the tool off altogether on any knife that is not aimed at campers. Replace it with a sturdy flat phillips and just admit that the common man doesn't need it any more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 08, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
It's not nearly that bad, it just depends on wat can opener you're used to. I am faster with a Wenger and get a cleaner cut with it too. I'm proficient with the Vic can opener too now, but when I first started using it, it was terrible.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 08, 2012, 11:08:36 PM
I grew up with an Imperial Boy Scout knife; and the opener on the Wenger is very similar in design. For me it is faster and easier to use than the one on the Victorinox. All depends on what you're used to.

My old Imperial; my current EDC Wenger Traveler; and an old Victorinox economy Spartan that was my EDC for a number of years back in the 80s.

Karl

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on May 09, 2012, 01:32:49 AM
I've actually had better luck with the Wenger opener, less jagged edges with it.  I feel that it's a bit easier to use left handed.  I've opened large coffee cans and such with it with no problem. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on May 09, 2012, 07:37:32 AM
I tried to open a coffee can with my Wenger EvoGrip S16 this morning, and it was an epic FAIL. If that were a can of beans and I were stuck in the wilderness with nothing else to eat, I wouldn't have starved. But I would have sliced my fingers up, gotten infected, and died from gangrene.

It left sharp, jagged edges on both the outside AND inside of the cut lid, and I was only able to cut about 2" before it couldn't get purchase on the rim any more.

That said, I suppose this can opener was designed for smaller food cans, like 20 oz. and under, and for that, I recall it working just fine.

Wenger should beg and plead with Victorinox to "share" the can opener technology, or they should just leave the tool off altogether on any knife that is not aimed at campers. Replace it with a sturdy flat phillips and just admit that the common man doesn't need it any more.

(Wenger is owned by Vic)  ::)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Smaug on May 09, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
(Wenger is owned by Vic)  ::)
Yes, I know. What is your point? It doesn't necessarily mean they allow spill-over of technology between the brands.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on May 09, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
(Wenger is owned by Vic)  ::)
Yes, I know. What is your point? It doesn't necessarily mean they allow spill-over of technology between the brands.

And I've seen nothing saying they won't.  Point is, Wenger is it's own brand within the brand, and maybe Vic wants to keep Wenger knives the way the are for posterity, who knows?  Just saying.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: borgwarrior on May 10, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
I have a new "do want" Wenger...

Blackout 10.x (http://www.wenger.ch/blackout-10-x-1-010-209-828-x) :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Frankctz on May 10, 2012, 04:02:34 PM
Its nice, where did you get it...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: borgwarrior on May 10, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
Don't have it yet, it's only on the wanted list...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 22, 2012, 11:40:41 PM
Old 91mm Wenger.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=35986;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on June 22, 2012, 11:55:54 PM
I was them many years ago and liked but for myself I only recently discovered the small Wengers as well... A bit earlier had a Ranger 55 (still have) but that was it. My discovery was when they introduced the EvoWood scales, I got one, then a second then a third just for the scales... A few pics here. However there are other older classic (not evo) scaled Wengers that I like more: Serrated Master and Tradesman (my favorite for the Philips making it even more rounder and especially for the small clip point blade). I also have a SI for the sake of it. A small island of Wenger SAKs in a (not sea, not that big) pond of Vic SAKs I have :D

Pics of my EvoWoods follow in two posts due to my images limit per post.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on June 23, 2012, 12:00:35 AM
A few more:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 23, 2012, 12:38:20 AM
Old 91mm Wenger.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=35986;image)
Oooh, that's a lovely old knife.  When would you say it was made?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on June 23, 2012, 01:23:55 AM
Old 91mm Wenger.

Yummy. Do you have a pic showing how thick the tools are on this old one? Thanks
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 23, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
Old 91mm Wenger.

<closed-image> (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=35986;image)
Oooh, that's a lovely old knife.  When would you say it was made?

Sorry I could not say right now other than I think it's before 1950.  Need to research dates, it could be much earlier.  You, Jazz, and James C. would likely be the best to say.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=36032;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 23, 2012, 04:27:08 PM
My guess is the 1920's.  Wenger used this same shield on their carbon-steel knives that had fiber handles, which would be before 1921 or so and the new stainless steel with a metal shield with crossbow and caplifter with scraper - as shown by photo in the sequence on page 43 of the SAK Owner's Manual.  The Wenger history is always a bit mysterious.
It is interesting that Wenger had a caplifter on their screwdriver in the carbon steel days (yours appears stainless) - long before Victorinox had a caplifter on their 'driver.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 23, 2012, 09:18:48 PM
My guess is the 1920's.  Wenger used this same shield on their carbon-steel knives that had fiber handles, which would be before 1921 or so and the new stainless steel with a metal shield with crossbow and caplifter with scraper - as shown by photo in the sequence on page 43 of the SAK Owner's Manual.  The Wenger history is always a bit mysterious.
It is interesting that Wenger had a caplifter on their screwdriver in the carbon steel days (yours appears stainless) - long before Victorinox had a caplifter on their 'driver.
I was thinking it was maybe a bit newer than that given the rivet style, high polish, and great condition.  It might be fairly early in the life of the Tahara brand as I have to think the red enamel sheild (I think it's enamel) is quite fancy and they wanted to show this as a premium model.  I'm not sure if when they started the Tahara brand for SAKs if they were still making the Tahara polishing machines or if that was history.  It would be good to know when Tahara really got started as a SAK brand.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 23, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Could be the Tahara name on SAKs came before the Tahara machines for the tumble-polishing of silverware which were sold to cruise lines in the 1920s and '30s - "the last machine sold to the Hotel Schweitzerhof in Bern in 1942."  Lisa Wenger suggested the name in 1910.  But when did Tahara actually first appear on the tang of a knife; and when did Wenger stop using this tang stamp?
An ad from around 1950 describes their Staff Officer’s Knife (2 blades, 2 openers, scissors, saw, reamer, corkscrew, toothpick & tweezers, bail) of “finest Swedish Tahara Stainless
Steel” priced at $13.50.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 23, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
Could be the Tahara name on SAKs came before the Tahara machines for the tumble-polishing of silverware which were sold to cruise lines in the 1920s and '30s - "the last machine sold to the Hotel Schweitzerhof in Bern in 1942."  ....
Yes, it could be, and seems like it probably was.  I just checked information published by Wenger and the name was trademarked in 1910, and as you say the last machine was sold in Bern in 1942.  It would seem that it would have appeared on a pocket knife before the polishers based on the trademark date, or at least before the sales of the polishers were completed. It was probably used on tableware first given the trademark date.  I'm not sure, but I think Wenger is saying the Red Crossbow w/SUISSE logo is only preceeded by the very similar crossbow logo without SUISSE (and of course no logo on the scales), and then followed by the metal variations. 

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 15, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
This Wenger was sold by L.L.Bean as the Swiss Outdoorsman around 1991 it looks like.  Anyone have any more information on it, like another name or Wenger identifier?

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=36948;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 15, 2012, 08:45:48 PM
Wenger Computer Wiz (#16952), with T-10 Torx screwdriver.

Came across this while trying to come up with some info on the Swiss Outdoorsman (no other info, but nice find  :tu:), and figured I'd throw it in.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 15, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
Wow, I love this one, was it a special run for somebody? I wish it was a T8 though. Great find :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 15, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
Wow, I love this one, was it a special run for somebody? I wish it was a T8 though. Great find :salute:

It was listed in their standard catalog back in the 1990s, but apparently didn't stay around long.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 15, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
Wenger Computer Wiz (#16952), with T-10 Torx screwdriver.

Came across this while trying to come up with some info on the Swiss Outdoorsman (no other info, but nice find  :tu:), and figured I'd throw it in.
Nice!  I've been hoping to find one of those.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kmanct3 on July 18, 2012, 04:28:58 AM
Always been partial to Vic, just cant get myself to have a SAK without a small blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 22, 2012, 08:09:03 PM
We don't see as many Wenger customs as we do Victorinox so I though I'd show this standard Wenger Backpacker (nailfile/corkscrew) with custom deer antler scales.  Pretty nice job here, the material used was very good, the builder missed a little with one of the cout outs for a nail nick, but it works just fine.  Really nice color and feel to these handles.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on August 01, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Any idea on how old this is or the model?
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger001.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger002.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger003.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger004.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger005.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger006.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/OldWenger007.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 01, 2012, 10:01:49 PM
That's one of my favourite models of the Wengerinox. I'd say about mid '50s.

Edit: they seem to have used the crossbow logo throughout the '40s :think:

Quote
1940s Logo crossbow

1949 Geneva convention : to copy a Swiss Cross is forbidden.

1950 A patent application seem to contain Wengerinox in crossbow symbol

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=37957.0 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=37957.0)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 11, 2012, 06:34:07 PM
Wenger Passports

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=38142;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 29, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
Here is a model you don't usually see very often.
A Wenger Left Hand Skier!  8)
Model is n. 1 34 103

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5970/11740496.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/11740496.jpg/)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4521/67372122.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/67372122.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 29, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Wow, that is a pretty rare bird.  Do you happen to be left handed?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 29, 2012, 11:23:20 PM
Left-hand Cyclist.

Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on August 30, 2012, 12:14:25 AM
Even the corkscrew goes the other direction.    :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on August 30, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
Does Wenger still make any of these lefty models?  I gotta get my hands on one!  :gimme:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 30, 2012, 01:47:03 AM
Left-hand Cyclist.

Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.

Is that technically still a Cyclist? :think: I mean that one has a small blade instaid of the nail file.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 30, 2012, 01:55:20 AM
Left-hand Cyclist.

Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.

Is that technically still a Cyclist? :think: I mean that one has a small blade instaid of the nail file.

Yeah, but the main blade has a REALLY big nail file on the other side ...  :facepalm:

Southpaws ...  ::)






 :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 30, 2012, 02:08:24 AM
Left-hand Cyclist.

Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.

Is that technically still a Cyclist? :think: I mean that one has a small blade instaid of the nail file.

That's what the catalog calls it. Here's a page with most of the left-handed models; doesn't include the Skier. Also no guarantee there aren't others.

http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Wenger_Left-handed_Models.pdf (http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Wenger_Left-handed_Models.pdf)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 30, 2012, 03:02:11 AM
The 1992-1995 Wenger French catalog on SAKwiki also has info; page 2, the last two sheets.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=97&offset=60 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=97&offset=60)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: JNieporte on August 30, 2012, 03:37:21 AM
I like Wenger SAKs. The bottle opener / screwdriver has a detent that makes the tool unable to close when under pressure. That's great. I also prefer the Wenger can opener to the Victorinox, although it does give up the small screwdriver. I prefer the Wenger Standard Issue to the Victorinox Soldier.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 30, 2012, 09:49:20 AM
Wow, that is a pretty rare bird.  Do you happen to be left handed?
Thanks!
No, I'm not left handed, but I love this set (the one from the 90's period) and I think it is too unique to pass by.
At the moment I have 4 of the 6 models made.
Hopefully I should be able to post a picture of the complete set soon.

Left-hand Cyclist.

Wenger did a series of a half-dozen Left-handed (Main Gauche) knives. Not only were the notches on the blades reversed; the entire blade sequence was reversed.

Yes, but with a great exception for the wax scraper tool in the skier model, which is not reversed (I compared it myself with a standard model I have).

Does Wenger still make any of these lefty models?  I gotta get my hands on one!  :gimme:

I believe the left hand models are not made anymore.
I found that Wenger later changed the design of the "left hand man" on the scales, as seen on the following picture (pointed line around the figure)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2283/98406108.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/98406108.jpg/)

Some of the later models can still be found.
Have a look here
http://www.anythinglefthanded.co.uk/acatalog/pocket_knives.html (http://www.anythinglefthanded.co.uk/acatalog/pocket_knives.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 30, 2012, 01:54:40 PM
ooh i just bought this, Handyman

woodsaw, metalfile and plier,bits and much more :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 30, 2012, 02:38:41 PM
I got one of those too. What's your thoughts on it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 30, 2012, 02:52:38 PM

i really like this, it is a great multitool, i also really enjoy to study the mechanisms
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 30, 2012, 03:41:41 PM
Agreed. It's probably not one for the "plierphiles"  :P who need the biggest possible pliers at all times. As a knife-centric tool though, it's an impressive bit of kit for the right person/scenario.

I do wish those scales were a little slimmer though  :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: crackout on August 30, 2012, 09:19:12 PM
Back to my old S18, still waiting for parts of my Vic mods. :-\

(http://localhostr.com/file/nP2Zh9321WFG/s18.jpg)

Love it!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 31, 2012, 12:37:11 PM
Agreed. It's probably not one for the "plierphiles"  :P who need the biggest possible pliers at all times. As a knife-centric tool though, it's an impressive bit of kit for the right person/scenario.

I do wish those scales were a little slimmer though  :-\
some thoughts:
yes it is on the larger side, also the "plierphiles" looking for the biggest plier is true, however Wenger 120mm or more correct 130mm got so many larger size functions is handy, many multitools today got ok size on the functions too but many also got so small functions that it would make them difficult to use, the saw on the Rangers is enough to cut thick wood, with the bits one get great momentum and one can custom make your tool for many tasks, the plier is in my opinion medium size and enough for much, knifeblade is there very good also, i feel the Wenger multitools fills a gap that many do not have and it is like you say people looking for the best plier and the multitool become much like just a plier many times.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 31, 2012, 01:26:42 PM
Agreed. It's probably not one for the "plierphiles"  :P who need the biggest possible pliers at all times. As a knife-centric tool though, it's an impressive bit of kit for the right person/scenario.

I do wish those scales were a little slimmer though  :-\
some thoughts:
yes it is on the larger side, also the "plierphiles" looking for the biggest plier is true, however Wenger 120mm or more correct 130mm got so many larger size functions is handy, many multitools today got ok size on the functions too but many also got so small functions that it would make them difficult to use, the saw on the Rangers is enough to cut thick wood, with the bits one get great momentum and one can custom make your tool for many tasks, the plier is in my opinion medium size and enough for much, knifeblade is there very good also, i feel the Wenger multitools fills a gap that many do not have and it is like you say people looking for the best plier and the multitool become much like just a plier many times.....

I'd agree with that. I got the tool for outdoors use (hiking/camping) and intend leaving the driver bits at home. That gives me a knife and saw which is far more suitable for the hills and woods than what is available on anything else, but also gives me a medium duty plier and file which would be perfectly adequate for that environment in my mind. It also gives me a can opener but no bottle opener which again is the right set up for that role.

Personally I feel a handyman (person) will find the drivers handy (assuming  but would probably need a stronger pliers. The knife and saw may actually be overkill for that guy .... for an outdoors role thought it suits quite nicely. He's also probably more likely to want a beer at the end of the day than a tin of soup  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 31, 2012, 03:54:10 PM
yes maybe a bigger plier, i would also say that the plier shape and the arm is such one can remove hooks sitting deep in fish since one can operate the arm with a finger,

Also the opening for bits gives possibillities for many things/uses,....

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=38813;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 03, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
Top photo is of a Wenger Traveler with cleated metal handles. Done for the Mercedes-Benz Unimog all-terrain truck.

The second is a Wenger reed-scraping knife, for preparing reeds for musical instruments. A special run for Oboe, a Swiss music supply company.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on September 03, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
Figured I'd post a pic of my current Wenger lineup. 

(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/Jerseydevil379/DSCF0944.jpg)

At top are a Toolchest and an Eddie Bauer marked Adventurer.  Middle row are a Tradesman and my Evo16, and at the bottom is a Backpacker II.  I've owned a number of other Wengers, and have liked them all.  Out of the knives pictured, the Tradesman and Evo16 are my most carried.  The Evo16 actually is probably my favorite SAK.  The watch on the left was a regular of mine for many years, but has sadly stopped working.  :(  I'll have to figure out where to send it and get it fixed.  The watch on the right was gotten in a trade, and wow do I like it.  I don't often wear a watch, but when I do it's that one.  Oh, and my everyday bag is a Wenger City Pack backpack......  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 04, 2012, 12:15:56 AM
Does Wenger still make any of these lefty models?  I gotta get my hands on one!  :gimme:

Here's a U S source for the left-handed Wenger Traveler.

https://www.leftyslefthanded.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=wenger&Search.x=12&Search.y=11 (https://www.leftyslefthanded.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=wenger&Search.x=12&Search.y=11)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 15, 2012, 04:08:48 PM
Three new arrivals for me today (actually two but I added a SAK for comparison).
All from local shops!

The first one is the "Pecheur" 1 45 03 know as Troller in the US market.
I had been looking for this baby for a long time!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img689/4498/19321435.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/19321435.jpg/)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img99/8435/12945323.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/12945323.jpg/)

The last two are very similar by each other and also compared to the US model "Survivor" (which has very minor differences).

On top is model 1 68 02 from the "Bardane" series and on bottom model 1 92 73 from the "Signal" series.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img341/1907/62674894.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/62674894.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on September 15, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
I'd not seen the Wenger diamond file before, great find. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 15, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
Three new arrivals for me today (actually two but I added a SAK for comparison).
All from local shops!

The first one is the "Pecheur" 1 45 03 know as Troller in the US market.
I had been looking for this baby for a long time!

...

The last two are very similar by each other and also compared to the US model "Survivor" (which has very minor differences).

On top is model 1 68 02 from the "Bardane" series and on bottom model 1 92 73 from the "Signal" series.

....

Great Finds!! I think you live in a great place for locating older Wenger models.   :cheers:

I'm sure you are a very happy camper today!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 15, 2012, 09:01:57 PM
I have lots of Wenger Love today... Alox Traveler.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=39114;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 15, 2012, 09:08:52 PM
:ahhh


Nice one, so the set is now complete :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 15, 2012, 11:21:20 PM
:ahhh


Nice one, so the set is now complete :D
No not quite; I still need the Commander from the series.  The group pictues posted to the wiki were from ColoSwiss, he has all the 85mm models, can't remember if he has the Esquire without ring.  I'm not too worried though, I'm just very happy to get this model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 16, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
Congratulations for the Alox Europa!
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kkokkolis on September 17, 2012, 07:19:48 AM
I like them both but I find the 91mm Victorinox more usable. From Wenger I like the pliers, the springs of pliers/ scissors, the wrench, locking blade, "locking" screwdriver. Victorinox could implement all these since they own Wenger but it seems they want to keep Wenger alive. I had a Tool Chest Plus and although I liked a lot the tools mentioned I hated the ruler/ compass (one could have 6 tools in it's place) the lack of tools on the back and missed the Victorinox hook, scissors, can opener (watchmaker's knife for me), small blade and mini screwdriver (although you can put one on Wenger). I also needed some more blades and the bits, so I could only find them on Vic XLT. This is my EDC now.
Mike Horn's Ranger seems great with no rival from Vic. I would get that for outdoors and a Swisschamp would complement it for all the tools it lacks.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 17, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
I like them both but I find the 91mm Victorinox more usable. From Wenger I like the pliers, the springs of pliers/ scissors, the wrench, locking blade, "locking" screwdriver. Victorinox could implement all these since they own Wenger but it seems they want to keep Wenger alive. I had a Tool Chest Plus and although I liked a lot the tools mentioned I hated the ruler/ compass (one could have 6 tools in it's place) the lack of tools on the back and missed the Victorinox hook, scissors, can opener (watchmaker's knife for me), small blade and mini screwdriver (although you can put one on Wenger). I also needed some more blades and the bits, so I could only find them on Vic XLT. This is my EDC now.
Mike Horn's Ranger seems great with no rival from Vic. I would get that for outdoors and a Swisschamp would complement it for all the tools it lacks.
I completely agree about the ruler/compass.
That tool is just too big and prone to break, so I usually try to avoid all the models equipped with it.
About the small blade (which I prefer over the nail file) Wenger had a lot of models equipped with it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syph007 on September 17, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
I've been wanting a few of the odder Wengers and finally ordered myself a Wenger mini grip (pocketgrip?) new old stock.  :D  Its just different enough that I need one.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=5)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: crackout on September 17, 2012, 04:42:59 PM
Backside bit holder for sure is something else. :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on September 17, 2012, 06:21:13 PM
After visiting the wenger dealer I got one of these. Nearly got the bigger model..

Wenger - EKA collaboration

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_1915.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_1912.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 17, 2012, 06:23:50 PM
Those screws are just for show, right? I think I remember that one from somewhere.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on September 17, 2012, 06:26:28 PM
Those screws are just for show, right? I think I remember that one from somewhere.

I have no idea!  :D

It just looked different, compared to the evowood models everywhere.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on September 17, 2012, 06:36:40 PM
Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models?  I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out.  The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 22, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 22, 2012, 12:20:40 AM
Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models?  I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out.  The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.

I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on September 22, 2012, 12:43:02 AM
Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models?  I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out.  The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.

I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Thanks for the info.  They look like nice SAKs, but they're pricey for what they are.  If the handle is just covered, and not that durable, seems like it'd just be a waste of money, unless it was for shelf-queenage.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 22, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
Anyone have one of the S14 Soft Touch models?  I've been very interested in one, but have never seen one in a store to check out.  The tool compliment seems just right for day to day EDC.

I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Thanks for the info.  They look like nice SAKs, but they're pricey for what they are.  If the handle is just covered, and not that durable, seems like it'd just be a waste of money, unless it was for shelf-queenage.

They should have made them out out solid neoprene with a stiffening insert, like the various pistol grips. That would have been a winner.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 22, 2012, 08:45:54 AM
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Nice! I just got the 3 layer traveler with clip point it has metallic blue shadow grass scale; essentially I think it is the same as your grey one, but in blue.

What's the equivalent Wenger model with the standard blade compared to your 8 blade one?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.

Are they readily available?  I had thought all the left-handed Wengers were discontinued long ago.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GNandGS on September 22, 2012, 09:49:32 AM
I saw sparks fly, from the corner of my eye
And when I turned, it was love at first sight
I said please excuse me, I didn't catch your na-

Oh, wait.  Wenger. Not Winger.   :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on September 22, 2012, 10:01:13 AM
I saw sparks fly, from the corner of my eye
And when I turned, it was love at first sight
I said please excuse me, I didn't catch your na-

Oh, wait.  Wenger. Not Winger.   :whistle:
:doh:

 :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on September 22, 2012, 10:02:22 PM
I saw sparks fly, from the corner of my eye
And when I turned, it was love at first sight
I said please excuse me, I didn't catch your na-

Oh, wait.  Wenger. Not Winger.   :whistle:
:doh:

 :D



Someones showing their age...

Mind you,your not wrong
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 23, 2012, 12:41:25 AM
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.

Nice one!  Soon to be a Wiki Picture  :).  I picked up a Left-Handed Forester a couple weeks back, but I'm way behind on pictures... the shorter days means now I don't even have natural light for photos.  I'll need set up an artificial setup again soon.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on September 23, 2012, 01:39:30 AM
I had developed quite a crush on the S14 soft touch, but after what Karl said about the handle covering, I'm not so enthusiastic about possibly getting one after all.

I love my PER Ranger 179 though... I really wish it had a pair of those nice big scissors that Wenger makes for the one, and only one, Ranger model that has them.   :rant:

My 179 and my new Juice CS4 I got in a trade with the Captain live on my adventure pack; there is some tool redundancy between them, but for what I use that pack for, I think having the saw and awl on the CS4 will be nice as back-up for the same tools on the 179.

The RangerGrip 90 is also a darn  :drool: worthy piece of kit, as is the Mike Horn model, but I can't honestly see myself carrying something that big, even if I could afford it!   :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 23, 2012, 02:12:56 AM
Just in. Wenger Left Hand Evo 14.

Are they readily available?  I had thought all the left-handed Wengers were discontinued long ago.

It's available from 'Lefty's', a left-hand supply store in San Francisco.

https://www.leftyslefthanded.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=wenger&Search.x=10&Search.y=11 (https://www.leftyslefthanded.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=wenger&Search.x=10&Search.y=11)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 23, 2012, 02:19:41 AM
I have two of the Tactiles; a 7-blade blue-grey version, and an 8-blade black version. Both have a main clip blade like the ones on the SwissBucks. The actual handle material appears to be a very thin neoprene layer applied to a standard red plastic handle, which is visible on the underside where it overlaps. I doubt it would hold up very well.
Nice! I just got the 3 layer traveler with clip point it has metallic blue shadow grass scale; essentially I think it is the same as your grey one, but in blue.

What's the equivalent Wenger model with the standard blade compared to your 8 blade one?

It's a 'Handyman / Classic 18', with saw, scissors, phillips and nail file.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 23, 2012, 02:23:46 AM
I had developed quite a crush on the S14 soft touch, but after what Karl said about the handle covering, I'm not so enthusiastic about possibly getting one after all.


The knife is basically a Traveler. If you're looking for something with a clip blade, you might keep an eye out for a SwissBuck Swiss Advantage.

Failing that, pick up an S14 soft touch and let us know how it holds up.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on September 23, 2012, 05:18:26 AM
I had developed quite a crush on the S14 soft touch, but after what Karl said about the handle covering, I'm not so enthusiastic about possibly getting one after all.


The knife is basically a Traveler. If you're looking for something with a clip blade, you might keep an eye out for a SwissBuck Swiss Advantage.

Failing that, pick up an S14 soft touch and let us know how it holds up.  :D
Thanks for the info!   :tu:  The clip point is a big part of the appeal of the knife for me; never had such a beastie before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 23, 2012, 08:57:05 PM
The clip blade was originally developed for the SwissBuck line ( #1) that Wenger made for Buck some years back. Wenger apparently has some left over as they show up on Wengers from time to time. In addition to the the Tactiles (#2), there was a special model made for the Alpine Club of Switzerland that included a clip blade (#3).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syph007 on September 23, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
I REALLY want the Minathor... but I'm having a hard time justifying it.  It's just so 'different' I'd love one to play with, just not sure it I want to spend $130 to have a toy.  But it looks cool though! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 23, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
I REALLY want the Minathor... but I'm having a hard time justifying it.  It's just so 'different' I'd love one to play with, just not sure it I want to spend $130 to have a toy.  But it looks cool though! :D

Keep an eye on ebay. The one I had TattooSteve customize was picked up for around $80.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 28, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
Had this over on the Wenger thread where it went largely unnoticed.

A special model for the Alpine Club of Switzerland.

Karl,
that is a superb SAK, it was not unnoticed.
I usually collect only Wenger's from the 90-95 time period, but I like it!
In fact, after reading your post, I ordered one for myself from Edelweiss! ;)
Edit: just got an email: out of stock  :cry:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 29, 2012, 06:38:07 PM
I agree the Alpine SAK is awesome!  That's a real special one!  :cheers: 

I've just been way too busy and under the weather this last week to be on the forum much.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=39333;image)
Title: An odd Fly Fisherman?
Post by: basilio on October 02, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
Hello,
does anybody know something about this knife?
As you can see it has the very same configuration of the Fly Fisherman, but with the Backpacker figure on the scales.
I searched every catalog available, but I couldn't fing anything.
Interesting to note is that I was not able to find any model with the Backpacker figure on the scales without the slot for the tweezers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 02, 2012, 03:51:45 PM
Ap Blaze 57, nice one in my collection, hope you like the picture  :)interesting with evolution scales and the camo with realtree......

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=39698;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jamie_M on October 02, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Ap Blaze 57, nice one in my collection, hope you like the picture  :)interesting with evolution scales and the camo with realtree......

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=39698;image)
I absolutely love that :drool:
Title: Re: An odd Fly Fisherman?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 02, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
Hello,
does anybody know something about this knife?
As you can see it has the very same configuration of the Fly Fisherman, but with the Backpacker figure on the scales.
I searched every catalog available, but I couldn't fing anything.
Interesting to note is that I was not able to find any model with the Backpacker figure on the scales without the slot for the tweezers

I have pictures of the Fly Fisherman (also Fisherman and Fisherman 19) with plain handles, a fishing fly, a trout, and a stylized fish. None with a backpacker. However some were sold without tweezers and toothpick, and some only with the tweezers. Your's may be for a specific market, or ordered by a certain retailer.
Title: Re: An odd Fly Fisherman?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Hello,
does anybody know something about this knife?
As you can see it has the very same configuration of the Fly Fisherman, but with the Backpacker figure on the scales.
I searched every catalog available, but I couldn't fing anything.
Interesting to note is that I was not able to find any model with the Backpacker figure on the scales without the slot for the tweezers

hi
i do not have 100% info on this, i know this usually got a fish on the scale, both the older type logo/icon or the pad print type, however i have seen the backpacker icon on many models and without the slot, so far as i know "if not a person that have changed the scale i would say a variation",....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2012, 10:07:12 AM
further

in the 1991 catalogue you see the fly fisherman with fly hook icon, this can also have the fish trout icon and also the old type and pad print like mine, mine have tweezer and not toothpick :)with euro number 1 19 25 fisherman , so this model got variations, and i have seen like i mentioned many backpacker Wengers....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 03, 2012, 10:52:36 AM
further

in the 1991 catalogue you see the fly fisherman with fly hook icon, this can also have the fish trout icon and also the old type and pad print like mine, mine have tweezer and not toothpick :)with euro number 1 19 25 fisherman , so this model got variations, and i have seen like i mentioned many backpacker Wengers....
Hello!
Thanks for the pictures.
I have exactly the same model as yours (with the trout), mine also has only the tweezers and not the toothpic.
I believe that in Europe it was probably the only variation of the "fly fisherman" sold , as I couldn't find any reference about the fly hook icon.
I do have, also, in my collection the variation with the fly hook icon (bought from the USA), and it is an old model, as the icon is embossed and not print on the scales, plus the fish scaler does not have the "oval line guide".
I will try to post a picture as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
hi

a pleasure  :) please post,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 03, 2012, 02:06:03 PM
Ok,
nice to see that there are more Wenger fans! :cheers:
Attached are two pictures.
On the top is the Fly Fisherman (old model). Forgot to mention in my previous post that is has also the old corkscrew (with more "turns") and is missing the patent pend. inscription on the cap lifter.
I added to the bottom a very similar model, 1 19 03. It is basically the US Master Fisherman but with the corkscrew instead of the Phillips. Just noticed that this one, also, is missing the "oval line guide" on the fish scaler.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2012, 04:21:03 PM
looks really good :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2012, 04:27:12 PM

from research and my knives it seemes the embossed icon with silvery color was done from late 70s and to early mid 80s, after this they started with pad print style plus minus some years maybe....
Title: 1990 Left handed set
Post by: basilio on October 11, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
With the help by forum member Reinier  :cheers:, today I was finally able to complete the Left handed set from the 1990-1995 time period.  :D
Was missing the Matterhorn Plus.
I am attaching a picture.
From top to bottom, left to right:
1 10 103 Viking       1 34 103 Skier
1 14 103 Traveler    1 17 103 Forester
1 35 111 Cyclist      1 31 103 Matterhorn Plus
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 11, 2012, 06:41:45 PM
With the help by forum member Reinier  :cheers:, today I was finally able to complete the Left handed set from the 1990-1995 time period.  :D
Was missing the Matterhorn Plus.
I am attaching a picture.
From top to bottom, left to right:
1 10 103 Viking       1 34 103 Skier
1 14 103 Traveler    1 17 103 Forester
1 35 111 Cyclist      1 31 103 Matterhorn Plus

:tu: :tu:

Will you upload the pics to SakWIKI too? I think we're missing this series in the Wenger pages.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on October 11, 2012, 08:15:25 PM
That's a nice set! I'm glad the big one arrived safely :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 12, 2012, 04:58:32 PM

:tu: :tu:

Will you upload the pics to SakWIKI too? I think we're missing this series in the Wenger pages.

Yes, sure.
I uploaded the pictures on the SAKWiki Gallery.
I think they are just too big, as I forgot to resize them.
I can't find a way to delete and re-upload the pictures.
I will ask ICanFixThat.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on October 13, 2012, 05:28:37 PM

:tu: :tu:

Will you upload the pics to SakWIKI too? I think we're missing this series in the Wenger pages.

Yes, sure.
I uploaded the pictures on the SAKWiki Gallery.
I think they are just too big, as I forgot to resize them.
I can't find a way to delete and re-upload the pictures.
I will ask ICanFixThat.

I think they are OK since 3 per image; just prevents them from being included on a particular detail page.  I think under special editions though I put a place holder for a left-handed models page.  These images could for the basis of that.  Ya, I think we need a page dedicated to the left handers.  I'll try to get a picture of my recent one since I'm playing with my dSLR right now making it second nature to me like a trusty SAK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 14, 2012, 11:51:15 PM
Getting to the point.

Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 15, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Nice!
I have both the Manager and Director, but I never saw the small knife before!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: BIG-TARGET on October 15, 2012, 03:52:48 PM
Due to my continuing foot issue, making the odds of my hacking an airstrip out of the jungle less likely. :cry:  I have been carrying the Yellow Evogrip18 instead of my leathermans.  It has the "tools' I need/use, and is much lighter to carry :sak:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 19, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Had a look at a few Wenger shops the past few days.

Bought a couple and took a picture of the display of the shop. Good selection.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kkokkolis on October 19, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
Some more Wengers from Geneva.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on October 20, 2012, 02:10:18 PM
Nice shots gents. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 20, 2012, 08:06:50 PM
repost...
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=40163;image)

will post some more of the shops tomorrow
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 23, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
from shops:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on October 24, 2012, 06:56:05 AM
Getting to the point.

Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
Is that a telescoping pointer I see in those?   :o 

That would be worth giving up my laser pointer for when giving lectures!!!  Uber-retro-cool!!!   :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 25, 2012, 12:38:04 AM
Getting to the point.

Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.
Is that a telescoping pointer I see in those?   :o 

That would be worth giving up my laser pointer for when giving lectures!!!  Uber-retro-cool!!!   :drool:

Yes it is, and the weight of the knife makes it very well balanced. Unfortunately long out of production.
Title: An odd Skier
Post by: basilio on November 06, 2012, 09:13:51 AM
Any idea about this odd SAK?
Seems like an interesting Skier variant.
I can't understand the reason to have two can/bottle openeres on the same knife ???
I wasn't able to find any information.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 06, 2012, 07:11:02 PM
Looks like a special run for L.L. Bean. Swapped a combo tool for the nail file on the Mountain / Ski (#1.34.03). Like you said, doesn't make a lot of sense, but it gives them a unique model they can put their name on. Bean's done that several times.

Nice find. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2012, 10:31:08 AM
Thanks Karl!
I will try to open two bottles of beer at the same time.... :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 19, 2012, 04:03:26 PM
Wenger Passports

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=38142;image)

I visited a shop during the weekend, and I found this old set by Wenger.
The Esquire is the same as the one shown above  by ICanFixThat, plus a Traveler is also included.
Given the name "Elle&Lui - Lui&Elle", it makes more sense to sell the knives in pairs.
Don't know why the Esquire was sold alone (I saw it for sale many times on ebay, but always without the Traveler).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 19, 2012, 11:17:45 PM
Knew Victorinox had done a pair of Elle & Lui knives, but hadn't seen the Wenger Traveler version before. Interesting.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tap78 on November 21, 2012, 09:30:56 PM
My new old Wenger Standard Issue 81 :) I love the rough finish on the blade and tools...

(http://www.tap.pl/_img/knives/soldier/wenger-sstandard-issue-alox-1.jpg)
(http://www.tap.pl/_img/knives/soldier/wenger-sstandard-issue-alox-2.jpg)
(http://www.tap.pl/_img/knives/soldier/victorinox-soldier-alox-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 22, 2012, 09:53:22 AM
Nice one  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 24, 2012, 08:52:57 PM
.....
I visited a shop during the weekend, and I found this old set by Wenger.
The Esquire is the same as the one shown above  by ICanFixThat, plus a Traveler is also included.
Given the name "Elle&Lui - Lui&Elle", it makes more sense to sell the knives in pairs.
Don't know why the Esquire was sold alone (I saw it for sale many times on ebay, but always without the Traveler).
...
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=40878;image)
...
That's a super find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on November 30, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
I swapped my Vic Soldier for a Wenger SI which I received today - and I'm much more impressed with the SI; The bail is a great improvement for me and the extra belly of the blade is good too.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/100_0269.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Northern Geek on November 30, 2012, 11:42:11 PM
I swapped my Vic Soldier for a Wenger SI which I received today - and I'm much more impressed with the SI; The bail is a great improvement for me and the extra belly of the blade is good too.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/100_0269.jpg)

Really?

Is it really even noticable?

Not knocking your decision here or anything.. I've just never been able to even tell them apart myself. :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on December 01, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
It is noticable - almost definately doesn't make any difference whatsoever but I'm glad it's there.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on December 02, 2012, 07:00:28 AM
I never noticed any difference either. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 02, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
It's there, but you need a machinists eye to spot it.

The blade on my Farmer measures 14mm at the widest point, the blade on my SI is 14.3mm. (both with unused factory edge)

Side by side you can see there is more curve on the Wenger blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2012, 12:12:03 AM
Repost from Latest SAKs thread:

Just in; the blue American version (to go with the red European version) of the Wenger SGT Shortex-Plus capillary tube cutter for gas chromatographic chemical analysis. The gold-plated wheels contain a spring-loaded diamond glass cutter, with the magnifying glass to examine the cut. Also other tools for working on lab equipment.

The blue one was at one time imported by Hewlitt-Packard. They are now imported by Agilent Technologies. If you really want one you can get it here - only $395.   :D

http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent) (http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent))

And from the UK.

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo)

And a different Wenger Tool:

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MARIOS7319 on December 04, 2012, 12:33:45 AM
This is a old Wenger knife that i have bought it two months ago from ebay.
I really like this sak, it's the kind of old sak's that you want to carry with you all the time. :D
Does anyone know in what era was made.  ???
From the tools i guess 1940-1950, but i am not sure.
Thanks in advance.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/1zowxug.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/muj59l.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/dxg2n4.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/1io1w1.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2qswk1l.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2012, 01:05:27 AM
Wenger appearently changed from brown fiber to red plastic handles on their standard models some time in the mid 1930s. Also changed the screwdriver/bottle opener about that time. There are several different types of shield on the fiber handles. Models without shield also show up from time to time, but whether they predate the shields or were simply a variation (lower cost?) is unknown (at least to me).

In any event a very nice find.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2012, 06:06:33 AM
Another Wenger/SGT tool I have never seen:

http://rusknife.com/uploads/monthly_06_2011/post-457-0-98828400-1307612611_thumb.jpg (http://rusknife.com/uploads/monthly_06_2011/post-457-0-98828400-1307612611_thumb.jpg)

And a better shot of the Wenger/SGT Fix-it:

http://rusknife.com/uploads/monthly_03_2011/post-457-0-45628700-1301470445_thumb.jpg (http://rusknife.com/uploads/monthly_03_2011/post-457-0-45628700-1301470445_thumb.jpg)

Plus more info on the SGT Shortix-Plus from an earlier thread:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=17215.0 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=17215.0)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 04, 2012, 11:15:25 AM
Repost from Latest SAKs thread:

Just in; the blue American version (to go with the red European version) of the Wenger SGT Shortex-Plus capillary tube cutter for gas chromatographic chemical analysis. The gold-plated wheels contain a spring-loaded diamond glass cutter, with the magnifying glass to examine the cut. Also other tools for working on lab equipment.

The blue one was at one time imported by Hewlitt-Packard. They are now imported by Agilent Technologies. If you really want one you can get it here - only $395.   :D

http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent) (http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent))

And from the UK.

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo)

And a different Wenger Tool:

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw)

I had those Stratlab links saved on my pc for ages, always waiting for a price reduction.
But I don't have much hope.
As long as they are considered lab tools, I don't think we will see them sold for a "normal" price, i.e. a SAK price.
Karl, as I told you in the other topic, you got a great find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on December 04, 2012, 06:07:16 PM
It's there, but you need a machinists eye to spot it.

The blade on my Farmer measures 14mm at the widest point, the blade on my SI is 14.3mm. (both with unused factory edge)

Side by side you can see there is more curve on the Wenger blade.

A machinists eye is something I definitely have, but I never did a side by side comparison with both models. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on December 04, 2012, 06:27:48 PM
It's there, but you need a machinists eye to spot it.

The blade on my Farmer measures 14mm at the widest point, the blade on my SI is 14.3mm. (both with unused factory edge)

Side by side you can see there is more curve on the Wenger blade.

Don't compare it to a Farmer blade - they are practically the same; compare it to a Vic Soldier blade - the difference is clear. I'm not saying there's any difference in the abilities of either brands, but the Wenger definately has a deeper and curvier shape to it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 04, 2012, 08:13:04 PM
I recently saw a post on here where another member became so frustrated at not being able to source what he was looking for and so contacted Wenger direct with positive results. I've tried to find the post again as I now wish to contact them myself out of frustration.

Does anyone have the contact details for Wenger direct i.e their customer services email address? I've had a quick look online for the details but the Wenger site just directs me to the UK distributor, which for the other member got no results.

Time to grab the bull by it's horns!!

Can anybody help??

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on December 04, 2012, 08:21:27 PM
If it's the Whitby company you mean (from the UK Wenger site, I can highly recommend them. I emailed them about a repair on a Minigrip, they sent me a form out to send back with the minigrip and within 6 weeks I had a repaired minigrip with new scales.

Give them a try.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Repost from Latest SAKs thread:

Just in; the blue American version (to go with the red European version) of the Wenger SGT Shortex-Plus capillary tube cutter for gas chromatographic chemical analysis. The gold-plated wheels contain a spring-loaded diamond glass cutter, with the magnifying glass to examine the cut. Also other tools for working on lab equipment.

The blue one was at one time imported by Hewlitt-Packard. They are now imported by Agilent Technologies. If you really want one you can get it here - only $395.   :D

http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent) (http://www.chem.agilent.com/store/ProductDetail.aspx?productID=5182-9765(Agilent))

And from the UK.

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/ItemDesc.asp?IC=S0040#.UL0ZWiD5mSo)

And a different Wenger Tool:

http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw (http://www.stratlab.co.uk/stratlab/value/Itemdesc.asp?ic=S0050&eq=&Tp=#.UL1TRaX3DJw)

I had those Stratlab links saved on my pc for ages, always waiting for a price reduction.
But I don't have much hope.
As long as they are considered lab tools, I don't think we will see them sold for a "normal" price, i.e. a SAK price.
Karl, as I told you in the other topic, you got a great find!

Carlo, in addition to my two copies, I've seen two or three other Shortix-Plus for sale on ebay. So there is hope for that one. However I've never seen the Fix-it knife or (the one I really want) the version of the MiniGrip.

So many neat things I can't get my hot little hands on! :gimme:
Title: Longines Saint-Imier
Post by: basilio on December 05, 2012, 02:08:44 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 05, 2012, 02:41:07 PM
the extra belly of the blade is good too.

I do not see any extra belly on my Wenger SI compared with 93 mm Vic alox (Soldier, Farmer, Solo, etc). What is different for the main blade as I see is that the SI has as cons a thinner tang and uglier finished spine and as pros a thicher blade spine towards the middle and tip (especially compared to the current non-Solo Vic blade, which are thinner there).
Title: Re: Longines Saint-Imier
Post by: Marius on December 05, 2012, 02:43:52 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.

Superb!  :drool: Now if it only it had the small clip point blade there...  good that it doesn't so I won't  :drool: more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 05, 2012, 03:12:57 PM
the extra belly of the blade is good too.

I do not see any extra belly on my Wenger SI compared with 93 mm Vic alox (Soldier, Farmer, Solo, etc). What is different for the main blade as I see is that the SI has as cons a thinner tang and uglier finished spine and as pros a thicher blade spine towards the middle and tip (especially compared to the current non-Solo Vic blade, which are thinner there).

Vic '91 on top, Vic' 03 in middle, current Wenger SI bottom:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 05, 2012, 03:14:34 PM
One more, this time reversed: Wenger SI top, Vic '03 middle, Vic '91 bottom:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 05, 2012, 03:17:05 PM
Oh, and the rivet ends are nicer on the SI. But that's it. For me the top choice between there 3 shown is the older '91 Vic, no contest there at all.

Maybe the older (and true, i.e. from series issued to the army) S.I.s were better? Don't know since this is my only one.
Title: Re: Longines Saint-Imier
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 05, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.

Neat! I also did some digging and came up blank.

Wouldn't mind having one, but given the price of Longines watches, I suspect its out of my price range.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on December 06, 2012, 07:36:22 AM
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=41331;image)

That really is an interesting piece!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 06, 2012, 11:24:55 AM


Neat! I also did some digging and came up blank.

Wouldn't mind having one, but given the price of Longines watches, I suspect its out of my price range.



That really is an interesting piece!

Thanks both of you!
This knife showed up on ebay Italy few weeks ago.
The seller never mentioned the word "Wenger" or "Swiss Army Knife", but listed it as a commemorative Longines knife (in italian).
I came across the auction by pure luck.
However, there was a lot of competition, and I suspect the other bidders were Longines stuff (rather than SAK) collectors.
By the way, the scales are blue color.
Title: Re: Longines Saint-Imier
Post by: MARIOS7319 on December 07, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
I'm not a big fan of the Evo scales, but when I saw this I decided to buy as it has an unusual configuration.
I think that the only other "big" Wenger with the watch case opener tool is the Minathor.
I searched the web but haven't found any information about tis knife. Seems like a special run made for Longines.

Great knife !  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2012, 03:46:56 AM
Here's a matrix showing the basic breakdown of 7-blade Wengers.

If someone can get it to show up better, please do so.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 12, 2012, 04:32:39 AM
Here's a matrix showing the basic breakdown of 7-blade Wengers.

If someone can get it to show up better, please do so.
Maybe not better that the Doc, but saves downloading the doc and if you don't have Word.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=41640;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2012, 05:43:00 AM
Looks great, thanks!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
Some additional notes on the Wenger 7-blade matrix:

The various tools mentioned below the matrix were left off because their models are fairly straight forward, and trying to include them would overly complicate things.

- with pliers, also phillips and small clip blade, either a Journeyman or Serrated Journeyman
- with scaler and lock, also phillips and small clip, its a Bass. Without the lock its a Trout.
- with the flat phillips and the saw and plain Wenger scales its a Mountain.
- with the flat phillips and scissors and L.L. Bean scales, one of several Bean variants.
- the Fussballer/Soccer, Highlander with Choke Tube, and Deluxe Golf Pro are uniques.

The matrix doesn't include most European data (for lack of), Evos and EvoGrips, and the fact that some of these knives have different handles that result in different names. In the case of the Traveler these probably amount to well over a dozen.




Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 12, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
A little nicer version.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=41644;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 12, 2012, 03:39:49 PM
Thanks for the informations!
-------------
As I promised in the "latest SAK" topic, I am attaching few pictures of what I believe is an interesting Teton variant, with corkscrew and a partially serrated main blade.
The knife came with a box which has the catalog number 16484, the same as the 100% Serrated Teton (with phillips).
Of course, we can't know for sure if this was the original box for this knife, but I believe there is a high chance of it.
I'm calling this a Teton variant, but could be as well be an Adventurer's one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Hi Carlo,

I'd go with 'Teton' since it has the pen blade. I don't have that version of the Teton, but do have the 'Duck'. Both it and the two photos I have all show non-serrated blades.

I have a number of Wengers with full-serrated blades, but the only two with partially serrated blades are a Highlander and Serrated Cascade (which a catalog photo shows as half-serrated). So while uncommon that blade is not unique.

Nice find!  :tu:

Duck and  Serrated Cascade (below).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2012, 11:26:14 PM
ICFT,

Thanks for cleaning things up.  :tu:

If anyone can provide additional information please do so.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 14, 2012, 04:16:57 AM
Reworked the Wenger 7-blade matrix to include more information. Also incorporated ICFT's ideas.

Have no clue how to get rid of the red and green lines, but they don't show up when I print.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 20, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Reworked the Wenger 7-blade matrix to include more information. Also incorporated ICFT's ideas.
...
Cosmetic Adjustments and converted to image. (image quality does not appear as good in IE as on my original, FireFox is better, but still not the same, downloading may allow better viewing).

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=41955;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SwissArmy Zippo on December 20, 2012, 03:13:36 AM
I love the wenger evo 16. I made a YT edc vid of it.

http://youtu.be/Xa2Bcr8GMvE
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 20, 2012, 05:56:18 AM
ICFT,

Thanks again for cleaning up and posting the matrix.   :tu:

However.... I came up with some more info. If you can add it in, Great! If not, people can write it in on their printed copies.

The scissors/phillips and nail file (1.16.03) is a 'Classic 16'.

The saw/phillips and nail file is a 'Classic 15'.

Both European models and both on the way (along with some other goodies) from Swiss-Knife in Lausanne. My birthday's in January so "Happy Birthday to Me!"   :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 28, 2012, 01:57:37 PM
I'll add the information to the Matrix in the near future.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 28, 2012, 01:59:09 PM
I had to open a sealed package to get a nice picture of this SwissBuck keychain pouch.  I think the SwissBuck scales were one of the best designs that were produced by Wenger.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2566)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on December 28, 2012, 02:14:12 PM
Really nice, especially the fancy pouch!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 05, 2013, 08:28:00 PM
This was posted in another thread, but posting it here for future reference.

Red Alox Traveler

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=38383.0;attach=36148;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on January 05, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
Very classy knife. Looks to be in lovely condition too :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 06, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
I might have to pick up one of the swissbucks with scissors.  How do you feel about the handles?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 06, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Porsche Design - Edition-1

This P'3700 is maybe the ultimate version of the Wenger Traveler.  I feel I got one of my holy-grail SAKs with this one.  This has been the most difficult knife to photograph, I'm still not happy with the photos, but I've spent so much time on them I need a rest until I can set up some better lighting.  While all the tools are black powder coated, they still can have quite a reflection and they have some amount of defraction as well at the right angles.

A real Beauty!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42627;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42629;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42631;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42633;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 06, 2013, 09:26:40 PM
Porsche Design - Edition 1 -- P'3700   ...continued from previous post

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42635;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42637;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42639;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on January 06, 2013, 09:41:14 PM
I don't even know if I like the Porsche Design ones or not, but I know I want one :D

Lovely pics :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 06, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Again very :drool:

You get the nicest toys. :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 07, 2013, 12:31:17 AM
How would you compare it to the metal 50?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 07, 2013, 03:59:32 AM
How would you compare it to the metal 50?
Really totally different knives, but the Metal 50 is nice to.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jojotlc on January 07, 2013, 04:55:40 AM
Ditto,,,
i think there are a few of the Porsche Design(ed)  Wenger... all are were nicely done. :drool:


I don't even know if I like the Porsche Design ones or not, but I know I want one :D

Lovely pics :tu:

on the subject.. got a few Wenger's on/off own listings; the keeper's are 2 Swisgrip (original pat. pend version & pat.), a 157 Alinghi (nice tools and handles), a mini grip (needle nosed-traded)... nothing else :think:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 07, 2013, 08:35:41 AM
How to unscrew a smallish phillips with the Traveler or corkscrew model?  That is a question I have been pondering.  When I was younger I think I always had Teton based models so the question never came up, but I have been using an SI lately and I rather like the can opener/driver.

Cheers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 07, 2013, 12:17:33 PM
Porsche Design - Edition-1


I'm not a big fan of the Porsche models, but congratulations for your great (and rare) find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on January 07, 2013, 03:58:03 PM
Porsche Design - Edition 1 -- P'3700   ...continued from previous post

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42635;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42637;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=42639;image)

I must say, that is one sexy looking piece :drool: :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on January 08, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
How to unscrew a smallish phillips with the Traveler or corkscrew model?  That is a question I have been pondering.  When I was younger I think I always had Teton based models so the question never came up, but I have been using an SI lately and I rather like the can opener/driver.

Cheers

Tip of the nail-file does a reasonable job of they aren't to big and tight. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 09, 2013, 05:58:54 AM
Just picked this bad boy up for $32:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1127)


I look forward to getting it.  Ranger with heavy duty clippers/scissors, o yeah!  Not super crazy about the main blade, it would be groovier with a OHO NS blade, but it it will do the job just fine.  Ranger 172 plus an SI would make a great Bushwhacking combo!  Add a Becker BK2 and you would have all your bases covered with some overlap too.

Deal info (get it while its hot);

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41962.0.html
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: drrobinson on January 09, 2013, 06:55:14 AM
Does anyone know if it is possible to swap Wenger Evo 85 red scales onto a S16 Evo (Patagonia Expedition Race) model? I love the selection of tools on the S16, but could never find one except the yellow with the locking blade I like ( hence the "S" designation).

What about S18 Evo red scales, or Evo 16 ( non locking)?

I'm totally new to Wenger but really like the locking blade, Evolution scales, locking flat blade screw driver, and interior facing tweezers and toothpick.

I've had Vic's since I was a kid ( I have no idea why I was partial to them). Super Tinker has always been an EDC favorite, until this Wenger S16 Evo which is just right - except the color!

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 09, 2013, 07:33:17 AM
Looks like a red s16 is available, also consider the teton and traveller but those are not locking nor do they have the evo grips. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Landrew on January 09, 2013, 10:42:25 AM
Wenger appearently changed from brown fiber to red plastic handles on their standard models some time in the mid 1930s. Also changed the screwdriver/bottle opener about that time. There are several different types of shield on the fiber handles. Models without shield also show up from time to time, but whether they predate the shields or were simply a variation (lower cost?) is unknown (at least to me).

In any event a very nice find.  :tu:
I remember hearing that plastics eventually disintegrate after 60-80 years; some of the earliest plastics in museums have liquified. It would be interesting to know if some of the early plastic handles are still intact.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on January 09, 2013, 11:11:37 AM
Plastics can be damaged by the sun, temperature etc.. If you leave, here, a plastic container it deteriorates in a year after the summer UV rays and heat get it.

Regarding the scales on SAKs, some of the earlier types used will crack, or in the case of celluloid?, even catch fire.

In the SAK owners manual book there were a few examples of various types and their problems, as well as some experiments with lighting them, from what I remember.

I am sure someone  ;)  will post a bit about it soon.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: drrobinson on January 10, 2013, 06:09:48 AM
Looks like a red s16 is available, also consider the teton and traveller but those are not locking nor do they have the evo grips.

I haven't been able to find a source for a Red S16 in the USA. Does anyone have a source or an answer to my question about changing scales?


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on January 10, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
I don't see one in the USA either, it could be that Felinevet could get it for your?  Or an oversees member could get one for you?  I see a red one online over here for about $40.  I will be coming stateside, I might be able to pick it up for you.

Cheers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sir_mike on January 10, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
I used to have a Teton with the main blade being serrated.  I wish I still had that one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Landrew on January 10, 2013, 05:26:04 PM
I see a lot of flack over the hybrid serrated/straight blade, but if I only have room for one blade, I'd rather have that one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sir_mike on January 10, 2013, 07:31:31 PM
I used to have a Teton with the main blade being serrated.  I wish I still had that one!

This one also had a smaller blade that was a plain edge.  Best of both worlds! :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 24, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Well, I was hoping to show here what I grabbed on ebay last November.
Next Saturday will be exactly two months since it was shipped.
I had much hope for this baby (that I had been looking for ages), but I guess it is now time to face the fact that it was probably lost and that I would never get it.
I am attaching a picture from the auction.
Goodbye Serrated Tool Chest 16406 :bnghd:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 24, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 25, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
I can't quite make my mind up as to who I prefer Victorinox or Wenger...
Isn't it a bit like being asked to choose between your kids. You love both, each has a different character, one may be easier to live with - but you love them both the same non-the-less.

I'm not too giddy about most of the common Vic's - simply because they are just that "Common" - so I see absolutely no reason to buy. Most of their lines have been out for sooooo long - the market seems awash.  It seems they almost never bring anything radically new out - BUT, the build quality is simply sublime...no other word for it.

Wenger...WOW!! - love the different speSmurfpillst tools. S557, The Evo range, Mountain bike, Roller Skating, Matterhornm, Teton, Plus the Platinum versions etc etc..
Then as we go up the ladder we see the new generation of Ranger grips, go slightly higher and note the Mike Horn special, higher still and the 90 greets you before you come to the mighty Rescue 88  :drool:

I think it's almost universally accepted here that Wenger are the most innovative of the two at present. But Vic's undisputed king...The Spirit, still has room for improvement, OHO, Bit changing, Blunt nosed design, reduction to juice proportions  :drool: etc etc.

Make no mistake, the mighty Vic' could still show wenger a thing or two....but if only it could be bothered :pok:


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 25, 2013, 10:12:26 AM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!!  :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 25, 2013, 03:33:15 PM
Pictures and box label.
I bought the knife from ebay.com for around $ 55.
I think that the auction was probably not noticed, as I was expecting much more competition.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on January 25, 2013, 03:47:03 PM
Hurray! What a relief for you! Patience wins the day  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: colt 1911 on January 25, 2013, 03:54:02 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/25/e3usezys.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on January 25, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!!  :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Wow!  I know I'd have given up all hope of it showing after two months.  Very glad you got it in the end. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 25, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!!  :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.
Wow!  I know I'd have given up all hope of it showing after two months.  Very glad you got it in the end. :tu:

+1 and a nice one it is. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 25, 2013, 08:35:53 PM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!!  :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.

A few years back the Regional Mail Handling Facility in northern Virginia rented a bunch of semi trailers to hold the overflow during the Christmas rush. Next summer some supervisor started wondering why they were still taking up space in the parking lot. You guessed it; they were still full of undelivered Christmas cards and packages.

Glad you finally got your knife. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on January 25, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
Sorry to hear its lost. A rare item that I've never seen before.
Well, believe me or not, just got a call from my secretary that a package arrived.
The knife is here!!!!!!!  :woohoo:
This set a new record for me:
Priority Mail package sent from the USA on 27 November 2012
Italian Customs charged the duties on 19 January 2013
Arrived on 25 January 2013
Almost 2 months!!!!!!
Anyway, never loose hope.
Will post some pictures later.

A few years back the Regional Mail Handling Facility in northern Virginia rented a bunch of semi trailers to hold the overflow during the Christmas rush. Next summer some supervisor started wondering why they were still taking up space in the parking lot. You guessed it; they were still full of undelivered Christmas cards and packages.

Glad you finally got your knife. :tu:

Wow, some heads better have rolled for that mega-blunder :viking:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 25, 2013, 10:11:55 PM


Wow, some heads better have rolled for that mega-blunder :viking:

Not likely. If anyone was punished it would have been some poor SOB well down the chain-of-command. Probably the only reason the stuff didn't end up in a land fill was because the press got wind of it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 02, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
I think now is a goot time to make a tribute to Wenger, so I'm going to put some Wenger images at higher priority than some Vic ones for a while.

Wenger SAK Memories

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44230;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 02, 2013, 07:28:04 PM
Wenger Memories   :salute:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44232;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on February 02, 2013, 11:33:19 PM
 :drool: all over my keyboard
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 03, 2013, 04:12:29 AM
A lasting heritage.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44252;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on February 03, 2013, 01:11:04 PM
 :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 03, 2013, 01:49:23 PM
Wow, that's a nice one. :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on February 03, 2013, 03:26:10 PM
Wow... love the carbon fibre! :tu:

What model is that?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 03, 2013, 05:28:59 PM
Wenger Memories   :salute:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44232;image)

artwork for sure...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on February 03, 2013, 06:14:53 PM
Love the Wenger Iron Grip  8)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3)

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=299&Itemid=35

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=19581.0
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on February 03, 2013, 06:49:49 PM
Iron Grip sounds like a name for an Autobot. 8)  Also looks fantastic as a multitool though. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on February 03, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
 :gimme:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/wpg6.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/wpg4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/wpg8.jpg)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=934.0
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 03, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
I managed to sneak away earlier and get out all my wengers.
The good news is there's room for more :D

It struck me just how radical wenger is when compared to victorinox. Much is often said about the soft back spring on wengers as opposed to vic's. But lets not beat about the bush here, Vic's as nice as they are are pretty bland when compared to some of the outrageous themed  SAK's that have been offered by wenger...Rollerskating Tool !! Personally I think the FF on wengers is also higher than vics.

As for the Rangergrips?? - I think they're stunning, further more I don't think the idea has being exhausted, not by a long way. I'd like to have seen the plier based ranger grip offered as a blunt nose variant  with maybe an inline philips driver, or maybe containing scissors too (not the garden version).

It's just occured to me now how radical wenger would have become had it teamed up with say the likes of CRKT...Jeez!! can you imagine some of the concepts that would be unleashed - I actually can't. But it would have been great to have seen it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on February 04, 2013, 07:50:21 AM
Wow, Wenger has some pretty cool looking SAKs :tu:  Don't have any Wengers as I hadn't gotten around to this brand yet, but had planned on it at some point.  Sadly, it may be too late by the time I can afford to get any :(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 04, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
This may be of interest to some:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260820558198?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I got one a while back but there are still some left.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 04, 2013, 01:35:12 PM
A picture...
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44332;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 04, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
some time ago i used the saw to cut a small board along the drawn line,. Everybody know
it can cut big planks, branches and more, must say it was very easy with the Ranger saw,.
I would love if Wenger could follow its own line and be more independent again, but i guess the Ranger saw will live on :)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44346;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 05, 2013, 01:43:53 AM
Wow... love the carbon fibre! :tu:

What model is that?
Sorry for the confusion, the image file-name was incorrect, this model is a Commander like the other Jorg Hysek editions.  I think putting 'Traveler' in the file name was wishful thinking on my part. 

A picture...
<image (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44332;image)>
Really Nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on February 05, 2013, 02:05:54 AM
Awww... I got all excited :(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 05, 2013, 02:10:42 AM
Awww... I got all excited :(

No doubt...  it should have been a Traveler

... This was one mistake Wenger made.  But luckily I don't mind carrying more than one pocket tool ... and frankly Victorinox scissors just work better for me on 98% of tasks.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 05, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Wow... love the carbon fibre! :tu:

What model is that?
Sorry for the confusion, the image file-name was incorrect, this model is a Commander like the other Jorg Hysek editions.  I think putting 'Traveler' in the file name was wishful thinking on my part. 

A picture...
<image (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44332;image)>
Really Nice!

anyhow the name, congratulations on such a find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 05, 2013, 10:36:20 AM
Yes, nice pictures in the last pages!
I myself have few interesting knives to show, will post some pictures in the next days.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on February 05, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
I think i´m a bit OT here, but the question is too little to get it´s own thread.

I have a black scaled 85 mm Wenger with the toolset of the "Forester", i.e opener layer, saw, scissors, blade layer, corkscrew and awl on the back -  except that it has no nailfile but a small clip point blade beside the standard big one. What model is this? (Basically it´s equipped like a vic Huntsman)

I´ll add some pics soon, i promise.

It has neither tweezer nor corkscrew and has teh older standard scales, teh printed Logo is just white, not white/red.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 06, 2013, 12:31:40 AM
I think i´m a bit OT here, but the question is too little to get it´s own thread.

I have a black scaled 85 mm Wenger with the toolset of the "Forester", i.e opener layer, saw, scissors, blade layer, corkscrew and awl on the back -  except that it has no nailfile but a small clip point blade beside the standard big one. What model is this? (Basically it´s equipped like a vic Huntsman)

I´ll add some pics soon, i promise.

It has neither tweezer nor corkscrew and has teh older standard scales, teh printed Logo is just white, not white/red.

Sounds like a European variant of the Forester. Possible model number is 1 17 13. Wenger at one time time offered a 'Basic' series in Europe, most of which were without t&t. The all-white printed logo was also used on some of the 'Basics' and other low-end models. All the ones I have or have pictures of are red or translucent, so your black version is a bit unusual. Nice find.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on February 06, 2013, 09:49:15 AM
Thank you for the information on the knife!

I have done a quick cleaning of the old, hardened oil and pocket lint and will do some pics as soon as time (or my Girl...) allows.

I must say - although this comes quite late, given Wengers fate - that i find the 85 mm less obstrusive for pocket carry, even with 3 or 4 layers than a 91 vic.

If it wasn`t for the small screwdriver, I´d exchange my Spartan for a Wenger.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 07, 2013, 12:29:55 PM

from the heart is wish for the future:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44528;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 08, 2013, 11:28:26 PM
Small image, no good light right now as there is a Blizzard outside.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44626;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 08, 2013, 11:51:45 PM
Nice Camo Wenger Teton.  The grey coating on the tools, can't remember what it's called, is nice and great to have on the scissors.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44630;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 12:34:17 AM
Wenger Champ (I think) Model 1.28.03.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44632;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 09, 2013, 01:03:22 AM
Nice Camo Wenger Teton.  The grey coating on the tools, can't remember what it's called, is nice and great to have on the scissors.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44630;image)

An interesting point about the camouflage Wengers is that the American versions had matte blades, while the European versions had bright polished blades. I'm not a big fan of camo knives (too easy to lose), but if you're going to have one you probably should have the blade also camouflaged.

 :tu: on the Champ, also sold as Classic 28.  A trio of nice finds.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 01:52:44 AM
Always good to have a backup Tuxedo.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44650;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 02:09:09 AM
Wenger Buffalo Horn is quite nice.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44652;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 02:27:27 AM
Wenger SpotLite

Quick and dirty pics... but maybe better than nothing.  I'll have better ones for the Wiki at some point.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44654;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 09, 2013, 04:29:24 AM
Wenger Champ (I think) Model 1.28.03.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44632;image)

WOW, that looks interestin'

Any chance of a picture with the Tools fanned out.....please
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marcel.reijerse on February 09, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
Those Champs are nice! I've got two of them, one with a Turkish flag instead of the Swiss cross, and a later version with slightly different tools, and the standard Swiss cross.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 09, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Wenger SpotLite

Quick and dirty pics... but maybe better than nothing.  I'll have better ones for the Wiki at some point.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44654;image)

some great knives shown people, how is the construction and feel of the spotLite Wenger` quality?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 09, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
Wow, Francis! You've been busy. :ahhh

Those are some really :drool: worthy additions. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 09, 2013, 09:48:20 PM
Wenger SpotLite

Quick and dirty pics... but maybe better than nothing.  I'll have better ones for the Wiki at some point.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44654;image)

Congratulations for your finds!
I do have both variations of the Spot Light, with scissor and without.
Do you need pictures of the model without scissors for the Wiki?

how is the construction and feel of the spotLite Wenger` quality?

In my opinion, only good for collection.
Apart from the fast that this model uses AAAA batteries (like the laser pointer) which are difficult to find, the light is very weak, only good to find a key hole.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 09, 2013, 09:55:04 PM

yep, good for the collection then,  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 09, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
My latest aquisitions

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5388_zps9eff0a73.jpg)

Family photo

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5426_zps8c19aeb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 11:22:32 PM
Wenger  Switzerland 700yr Anniversary Commorative V.I.P. model

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44704;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 09, 2013, 11:24:52 PM
My latest aquisitions
Family photo


....going down that road you though you would never go......
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on February 09, 2013, 11:45:41 PM
That long and winding road...
Time for the founding of a Wenger SAK Collector's Society !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 09, 2013, 11:47:35 PM
My latest aquisitions
Family photo


....going down that road you though you would never go......

 :D Well ...

One is being kept till a kid is old enough
Four are mod fodder
Three will be going up for sale
Three are new, to be explored/considered
One was a gift and is a user
Four are bought users

Nothing's changed  ;)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 09, 2013, 11:55:08 PM
My latest aquisitions
Family photo


....going down that road you though you would never go......

 :D Well ...

One is being kept till a kid is old enough
Four are mod fodder
Three will be going up for sale
Three are new, to be explored/considered
One was a gift and is a user
Four are bought users

Nothing's changed  ;)




  :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
Congratulations for your finds!
I do have both variations of the Spot Light, with scissor and without.
Do you need pictures of the model without scissors for the Wiki?
....
A picture of the Spot Light without the scissors would be great on the wiki. 

Did you happen to notice your pictures deployed on the special Left-Handed page?  I did end up in resizing and cleaning them for that page because the large ones took too long to load from the SAKwiki server, they have links to the larger full sized ones though.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 10, 2013, 12:00:49 AM
My latest aquisitions
Family photo


....going down that road you though you would never go......

 :D Well ...

One is being kept till a kid is old enough
Four are mod fodder
Three will be going up for sale
Three are new, to be explored/considered
One was a gift and is a user
Four are bought users

Nothing's changed  ;)




  :whistle:

... I'm pacing myself  :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2013, 05:10:34 PM
Wenger Colonel or Oberst.  An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 10, 2013, 05:19:36 PM
Congratulations for your finds!
I do have both variations of the Spot Light, with scissor and without.
Do you need pictures of the model without scissors for the Wiki?
....
A picture of the Spot Light without the scissors would be great on the wiki. 

Did you happen to notice your pictures deployed on the special Left-Handed page?  I did end up in resizing and cleaning them for that page because the large ones took too long to load from the SAKwiki server, they have links to the larger full sized ones though.

Yes, I did notice, thanks!
The pictures are much better now.
Feel free to resize the original ones as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 10, 2013, 05:22:42 PM
Wenger Colonel or Oberst.  An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)

Nice!
I do have a similar model, shown in the other topic.
There is also an additional similar model with the main blade (locking) marked Backpacker/Precise, backpacker figure on the scale and only tweezers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
Here is an intersting SI/Soldat.  Typically you would never have advertising on a Soldier, or at least Swiss only advertising if the knife has the federal shield, but here you have US advertising and the Swiss Shield.  The knife is undated, and I presume they decided to do this after the 93mm was replaced as standard issue, but I don't know for sure.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44741;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 06:29:08 PM

interesting, i like , looks really well, lovely picture ....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2013, 06:59:11 PM
Family Life.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44743;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
One more quick one.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44747;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
nice! it is the same material on the scales like the Dynasty models?,i got a Dynasty Ivanhoe and just incredible made handles for sure
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
Nice Camo Wenger Teton.  The grey coating on the tools, can't remember what it's called, is nice and great to have on the scissors.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44630;image)

An interesting point about the camouflage Wengers is that the American versions had matte blades, while the European versions had bright polished blades. I'm not a big fan of camo knives (too easy to lose), but if you're going to have one you probably should have the blade also camouflaged.

 :tu: on the Champ, also sold as Classic 28.  A trio of nice finds.

interesting, i agree the matte or the layer would be best on camo, however i have noticed all the different scale patterns and how Wenger really have had this in their philosophy for many years, today we see the AP Blaze and if you look on them they vary in the decoration, the AP Blaze  and the realtree is really a revolutionary camo system, just see the http://www.realtree.com/camo/realtree-camo-patterns/realtree-ap-blaze-orange-camo
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Grathr on February 10, 2013, 07:49:46 PM
One more quick one.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44747;image)

That is a beautiful knife!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 10, 2013, 08:52:36 PM
My latest aquisitions
Family photo


....going down that road you though you would never go......

+1  :facepalm: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2013, 09:45:39 PM
nice! it is the same material on the scales like the Dynasty models?,i got a Dynasty Ivanhoe and just incredible made handles for sure
No I don't think so, the Dynasty series is something different.  I've seen some documentation that it was enamel, which would seem to make sense, as it's very dark, and Wenger worked with enameled scales on the Tuxedo, and Macao products.

The Life series is maybe just color anodizing, though they have very subtle shadings for the colors and the dark black images, so I'm thinking they may be painted rather than anodized.

They are beautiful, just wish they had scissors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 10:07:05 PM

yep, it seems alot materials been used by the Brand, anyhow beautiful knives
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on February 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
I found really great offer to buy Wenger S557, but I'm worried about one thing:
On one side is regular Evo red scale and on the other side is EvoGrip red & black?
On the Evo scale there is writing-Exclusivities and also on the box.
Number on the box is 1 557 59 399.
Is this real deal?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on February 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM
For anyone who hasn't tried this endangered breed,or wants another one,I've a giveaway running elsewhere in the Swiss sub-board
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 10:21:38 PM
I found really great offer to buy Wenger S557, but I'm worried about one thing:
On one side is regular Evo red scale and on the other side is EvoGrip red & black?
On the Evo scale there is writing-Exclusivities and also on the box.
Number on the box is 1 557 59 399.
Is this real deal?

yes if i remember it is what Wenger called like the writing exclusivities knife, it is collectable yes :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 10, 2013, 10:41:38 PM
here is a video 5-6 minutes into this video you will see the modified S557 exclusivities knife,. Wenger Swiss Army Knife 2010 Overview (Video 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9oScIV-Vs#) ps one side translucent but i would expect your into the same area, maybe others can tell more,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 10, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
Here is an intersting SI/Soldat.  Typically you would never have advertising on a Soldier, or at least Swiss only advertising if the knife has the federal shield, but here you have US advertising and the Swiss Shield.  The knife is undated, and I presume they decided to do this after the 93mm was replaced as standard issue, but I don't know for sure.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44741;image)

Here's a Victorinox Soldier with the federal shield and advertising. Its a tie-in to the movie "Armageddon", which came out in 1998. The blade is dated '97' and the other side is marked 'Touchstone Pictures' and a four-digit serial number.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 10, 2013, 10:50:09 PM
Wenger Colonel or Oberst.  An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)

Verrry Interesting. What is the blade combination on the 'Oberst'? I've never seen that name before, and am wondering if its a new model or only a different name.

Thanks
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 10, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
Wenger Colonel or Oberst.  An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)

Verrry Interesting. What is the blade combination on the 'Oberst'? I've never seen that name before, and am wondering if its a new model or only a different name.

Thanks

Take a look here:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on February 10, 2013, 10:56:38 PM
Thanks for the info North Man!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 10, 2013, 11:12:04 PM
Wenger Colonel or Oberst.  An old-time SAK with more traditional tools including the small-blade vs. the more common nail-file on later Wenger models.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44727;image)

Verrry Interesting. What is the blade combination on the 'Oberst'? I've never seen that name before, and am wondering if its a new model or only a different name.

Thanks

Take a look here:

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953

Thanks.  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 11, 2013, 01:03:18 AM
Francis,

Looks like you've hit the Wenger jackpot! A lot of great stuff there.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 11, 2013, 01:05:16 AM
here is a video 5-6 minutes into this video you will see the modified S557 exclusivities knife,. Wenger Swiss Army Knife 2010 Overview (Video 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9oScIV-Vs#) ps one side translucent but i would expect your into the same area, maybe others can tell more,

Nice vid - thanks for posting  :salute:
I'm not sure I was aware of the Clipper AT before ... or maybe I just forgot  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on February 11, 2013, 01:09:59 AM
I'm very satisfied with my Wenger Clipper AT, brilliant sak and also TSA compliant.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 12, 2013, 03:12:20 PM
While taking pictures of the Spot Light for the wiki, I got a couple of additional shots.
This is what I bought some time ago on ebay.
I believe this is a Master Tool 13.
The wiki shows a picture of a model with red Evo scales.
Mine has standard green scales with the Orvis logo.
I think the Master Tool 13 is quite a rare variation
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 12, 2013, 03:14:08 PM
This is a knife I bought on ebay as well.
Basically a Cyclist (with the small blade instead of the nail file, as usually shown in the models sold in Europe), but with a strange horse logo embossed on the front scales.
 :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 12, 2013, 03:28:02 PM
Ok, uploaded on the wiki pictures of:
Spot Light without scissors
Laser Pointer with and without scissors
Master Tool 13
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 12, 2013, 05:12:30 PM
This is a knife I bought on ebay as well.
Basically a Cyclist (with the small blade instead of the nail file, as usually shown in the models sold in Europe), but with a strange horse logo embossed on the front scales.
 :think:

interesting, i have never seen a horse icon on the scale, it reminds me about icons or symbols to remind or fit once hobby or interest,. it is in the correct place maybe, but it is or look to be made by a private person or so, first Wenger did use the embossed or what looks like a hot stamp type with color like you know, then the pad print, i have seen one time one or two SAKs that private people or owners have made engravings on them, hmm.. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 12, 2013, 05:54:16 PM
While taking pictures of the Spot Light for the wiki, I got a couple of additional shots.
This is what I bought some time ago on ebay.
I believe this is a Master Tool 13.
The wiki shows a picture of a model with red Evo scales.
Mine has standard green scales with the Orvis logo.
I think the Master Tool 13 is quite a rare variation
nice find, thanks for pictures :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 12, 2013, 05:57:21 PM

interesting, i have never seen a horse icon on the scale, it reminds me about icons or symbols to remind or fit once hobby or interest,. it is in the correct place maybe, but it is or look to be made by a private person or so, first Wenger did use the embossed or what looks like a hot stamp type with color like you know, then the pad print, i have seen one time one or two SAKs that private people or owners have made engravings on them, hmm.. :tu:

North Man you made very good points.
I remember, however, a similar knife I saw on ebay, just after my purchase.
After much looking through the ebay "completed" auction search menu, I was able to find the auction
Auction is: 140898555927
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiss-Arm-Knives-Lot-/140898555927?
Seems to me the horse was made by the factory.
Hope Karl will know something.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 12, 2013, 06:47:09 PM

hi
thanks! new to me, it is probarbly genuine then, a new one to looks for maybe, on the auction one i could see the shade or color seems genuine, i was alittle puzzled by why its been angeled different, not kicking backwards into the air, but the whole icon is on another angle. the ground is under the backlegs , nice, hopefully it is seems the box is old and the functions, could this be a 70s knife??the auction one got extra loop on corkscrew aswell, in 1977 i found articles mentioning personalized and sportsman presentation, i did wonder if the universal wrench is from around 1975??
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 12, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
see , here is the angle one usually see the icon, the skier got some angle but not like yours and the auction horse knife, the skier is a 1976 knife and from late 70s i have a few different icon knives with the old embossed or not sure what to call it hot stamped with color kind, later the pad print, if one see today the evolution knives got icon aswell, many of them have been changed, for example the best known backpacker is today a boot print

ps, the backpacker and the cyclist is angeled like your and the auction knife, so this mean your knife got the horse correct, so it seems to me your knife is genuine, hopefully others may tell..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 13, 2013, 12:18:41 AM
The Orvis was sold as the 'Orvis 13 Special Edition', and had a unique blade combination that only they offered at the time. Their stock number was 89R60000. Don't have the red handled version.

I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.

The 6-blade Spotlight without scissors was listed in one ad as the 'Executive Spotlight'. Its model number is 1 97 20.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 13, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
Francis,

Looks like you've hit the Wenger jackpot! A lot of great stuff there.  :tu:
Well not really; many of these are from before the announcement, just never got around to taking their picture because there are just too many pictures that need to be taken.  However I decided to concentrate on Wenger pictures for a while, and just do some cheap snap shots quickly.  A couple I've known about for years, but never bought... but the announcement made me buy them.  A couple were also very recent ebay buys, like the nice 700yr commemorative, had only seen pictures of that in the past.

....
I believe this is a Master Tool 13.
The wiki shows a picture of a model with red Evo scales.
Mine has standard green scales with the Orvis logo.
I think the Master Tool 13 is quite a rare variation

The Orvis was sold as the 'Orvis 13 Special Edition', and had a unique blade combination that only they offered at the time. Their stock number was 89R60000. Don't have the red handled version.....

I believe, unless I was negligent, that the Master Tool 13 does not have a serrated blade, so the Orvis one would have a tool variation also.  I'll try to double check this as I look at my Wengers for pictures. 

Thanks for posting the Orvis knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 13, 2013, 09:34:36 AM
Attached is the only other picture (apart from the one on sakwiki) about the Master Tool 13 that I could find on the web.
I'm waiting for Francis to check with his model.
However, should the two knives had the very same tool configuration, could we consider the Orvis just a variation of the Master Tool 13?
If not, Francis please edit the caption of the pictures I uploaded on the wiki, as I don't know how to do it.

The Orvis was sold as the 'Orvis 13 Special Edition', and had a unique blade combination that only they offered at the time. Their stock number was 89R60000. Don't have the red handled version.

I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.

The 6-blade Spotlight without scissors was listed in one ad as the 'Executive Spotlight'. Its model number is 1 97 20.

Thanks for the informations!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 13, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
see , here is the angle one usually see the icon, the skier got some angle but not like yours and the auction horse knife, the skier is a 1976 knife and from late 70s i have a few different icon knives with the old embossed or not sure what to call it hot stamped with color kind, later the pad print, if one see today the evolution knives got icon aswell, many of them have been changed, for example the best known backpacker is today a boot print

ps, the backpacker and the cyclist is angeled like your and the auction knife, so this mean your knife got the horse correct, so it seems to me your knife is genuine, hopefully others may tell..

Nice Seafarer there!
Have a look at this picture from Stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
There were other old models made with animals
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 13, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
The Orvis version probably precedes the Master Tool 13, given its older style of handles. However it would probably be better to list the knife under the more generic MT 13 name, with a note about the Orvis. Orvis at one time offered a wide range of Wenger knives, but currently carries only an EvoWood S557.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 13, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
see , here is the angle one usually see the icon, the skier got some angle but not like yours and the auction horse knife, the skier is a 1976 knife and from late 70s i have a few different icon knives with the old embossed or not sure what to call it hot stamped with color kind, later the pad print, if one see today the evolution knives got icon aswell, many of them have been changed, for example the best known backpacker is today a boot print

ps, the backpacker and the cyclist is angeled like your and the auction knife, so this mean your knife got the horse correct, so it seems to me your knife is genuine, hopefully others may tell..

Nice Seafarer there!
Have a look at this picture from Stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
There were other old models made with animals

thank you, i love to get information on these, animals or other imprinted ones, i have with fish on but pad print type, would be ok if we could find some information regarding them, we know Wenger started with the personalized and sportsman presentation, to relate to a persons hobby/interest, Victorinox have used icons for a long time, usually they had inlays...i took a picture of a few i got with imprinted icons, these are years 1980-1986 i would believe, from our research it seems Wenger have done this from the 70s aswell, that i suspected since i found some in adds, and the VIP from 1976 around like we know, you can see on the picture that the backpacker emblem/icon is alittle different, one got the patented screwdriver and the other not, the imprinter is not completely the same, they vary some..
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44904;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 13, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
Wenger presented the skier around 1976..The VIP also, this got two constructions and often found or presented with a coin for luck...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 13, 2013, 12:55:26 PM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44904;image)
Nice collection!  :tu:
Is the Skier with or without the metal file?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 13, 2013, 01:40:28 PM
thanks,

yes the one on picture is without metalfile, i got one with metalfile and the skier imprint aswell, it is in more rough shape , it got an extra loop on the corkscrew and functions that to me would suggest an early edition, i am not sure if the metalfile skier was first or they are from same time, anyhow the old i have is or suggest 1976-1979,  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 13, 2013, 04:07:28 PM
....
I believe, unless I was negligent, that the Master Tool 13 does not have a serrated blade, so the Orvis one would have a tool variation also.  I'll try to double check this as I look at my Wengers for pictures. 
...
My fault; I failed to note the 60% serrated blade on the Master Tool 13.  I updated the wiki page. I added the Orvis as a variation, but noted it was likely the first model with this tool configuration.  I should have bought more of these when I had the chance.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 13, 2013, 05:44:01 PM
Motivated solely my news of Wenger's demise, I've ordered the following (all used ... NTSA seizures) this past week.

1990 Standard Issue
Golf Pro (I love how weird this one is)
Viking (so listed .... might be an Adirondack, I think)
Esquire
Tradesman


I'd like to get an Evowood as well, but bargain used copies just aren't around, it seems.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Doctor.Skipper on February 13, 2013, 06:35:16 PM
My little contribution for today ...  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captivatedroid on February 14, 2013, 02:12:44 AM
well my opinion is if wenger was always shown on Macgyver i think it would have the reputation vic has. Wenger wasnt really used that much in the series.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2013, 03:19:11 AM
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints. Most of these are unique to a certain model. However note the two different models using the duck in photo 1. The fishing lure has been used a number of times. The ones in the bottom shot are modern stylized versions mainly found on the Evos.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 14, 2013, 10:28:31 AM
hi

lovely collection!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 14, 2013, 10:40:16 AM
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints. Most of these are unique to a certain model. However note the two different models using the duck in photo 1. The fishing lure has been used a number of times. The ones in the bottom shot are modern stylized versions mainly found on the Evos.

Very nice Karl!
I also have the two Duck variations.
Do you have any reference about the bigger Duck?
I bought it from Felinevet a while back, but was not able to find any reference or catalog number for it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 14, 2013, 10:45:30 AM
My little contribution for today ...  ;)
Nice pictures!
Love the black and white one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 14, 2013, 02:12:57 PM
special VIP with coin, Ivanhoe Dynasty
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44970;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 14, 2013, 05:50:09 PM
Does anybody share my fascination with the Wenger sports models (Skier, Soccer, Snowboard, Shredder, Mountain Bike, Biker, Pocket Mountain Bike, Rollerblader, etc)?

So many specialty tools. Some of them aren't that practical. But for a gadget freak ... pretty cool. I want a Shredder and a Mountain Bike or Evo Biker 37. You never find reviews of these, however. These models may, in fact, be evidence of Wenger's over specialization here. I guess.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wndrstrck on February 14, 2013, 05:58:04 PM
I couldn't agree with you more on every point. I think that is part of the appeal for me, the uniqueness of the toolset that each one provides. I recently aquired a Shredder and am looking forward to seeing if it would be a great tool to include in my bow case :))

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 14, 2013, 08:34:34 PM
Does anybody share my fascination with the Wenger sports models (Skier, Soccer, Snowboard, Shredder, Mountain Bike, Biker, Pocket Mountain Bike, Rollerblader, etc)?

So many specialty tools. Some of them aren't that practical. But for a gadget freak ... pretty cool. I want a Shredder and a Mountain Bike or Evo Biker 37. You never find reviews of these, however. These models may, in fact, be evidence of Wenger's over specialization here. I guess.

interesting question, i have not come across them yet or one or two models would have been in the collection.  :) this a part i fear will dissapear in the future, it is understandable since they have to make business, they will probarbly see more into the future a collectable status , can not say for sure,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 14, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
i got the Skier model, with metalfile and without, imprints or pad print, it is part of my favorite knife, the ski wax tool is interesting...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints. Most of these are unique to a certain model. However note the two different models using the duck in photo 1. The fishing lure has been used a number of times. The ones in the bottom shot are modern stylized versions mainly found on the Evos.


Very nice Karl!
I also have the two Duck variations.
Do you have any reference about the bigger Duck?
I bought it from Felinevet a while back, but was not able to find any reference or catalog number for it.

Carlo,

The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?

Thanks,
Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on February 14, 2013, 09:03:03 PM
I've fallen for my new S14; great little SAK!

I've got four more on my want list now, an S557, S52, and some flavor of an S16 and S17.

I just can't decide which I should get first!   :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 14, 2013, 09:08:32 PM

Carlo,

The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?

Thanks,
Karl

Karl,
many thanks for the information!
My small Duck has the same configuration as the one shown on this picture from stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
the small Duck is called "Duck" model number 16991
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 14, 2013, 09:17:47 PM

Carlo,

The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?

Thanks,
Karl

Karl,
many thanks for the information!
My small Duck has the same configuration as the one shown on this picture from stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
the small Duck is called "Duck" model number 16991

yes, all my imprinted models have no packlock, i have looked for still no luck, in time :)i do have however a knife with packlock that i suspect must be around 1980 so +- 1979/1980 could be a early one,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2013, 10:01:26 PM

Carlo,

The larger Duck has a US model number of 16957. On the other hand I don't have any info on the small Duck. Do you know its correct name and number?

Thanks,
Karl

Karl,
many thanks for the information!
My small Duck has the same configuration as the one shown on this picture from stressmaster5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2aiKbfQtU-EHO7zjIVtj3NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
the small Duck is called "Duck" model number 16991

Thanks, had the info from that catalog page, but didn't have it in my spreadsheet. Too much paperwork.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2013, 11:09:47 PM
Here's an unusual Wenger, labeled 'Ski Tour'. Somewhat similar to a 'Nomad', but a pliers instead of a scissors, nail file instead of a pen blade, and no lock. Came in a box for another model, so no other info on it. Looks like a pretty useful combination.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 15, 2013, 09:09:11 AM

After much looking through the ebay "completed" auction search menu, I was able to find the auction
Auction is: 140898555927
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiss-Arm-Knives-Lot-/140898555927?
Seems to me the horse was made by the factory.
Hope Karl will know something.


I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.



Hey,
I was looking again at the picture from the ebay auction I linked above, and I guess we have the name and catalog number for the "horse"!!!!!
On the box is written "Mustang" catalog number 16952, if I did read correctly.
Sorry, I didn't notice this before!

Following is the box from the auction's image cropped and rotated
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8681/clipboard01iw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/clipboard01iw.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 15, 2013, 09:17:09 AM
Here's an unusual Wenger, labeled 'Ski Tour'. Somewhat similar to a 'Nomad', but a pliers instead of a scissors, nail file instead of a pen blade, and no lock. Came in a box for another model, so no other info on it. Looks like a pretty useful combination.
Interesting, nice find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 15, 2013, 09:32:38 AM


Hey,
I was looking again at the picture from the ebay auction I linked above, and I guess we have the name and catalog number for the "horse"!!!!!
On the box is written "Mustang" catalog number 16952, if I did read correctly.
Sorry, I didn't notice this before!

Following is the box from the auction's image cropped and rotated
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8681/clipboard01iw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/clipboard01iw.jpg/)
[/quote]
yep i noticed aswell, good observation and thanks for the auction link again, we need info
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 15, 2013, 06:28:57 PM

After much looking through the ebay "completed" auction search menu, I was able to find the auction
Auction is: 140898555927
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiss-Arm-Knives-Lot-/140898555927?
Seems to me the horse was made by the factory.
Hope Karl will know something.


I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.



Hey,
I was looking again at the picture from the ebay auction I linked above, and I guess we have the name and catalog number for the "horse"!!!!!
On the box is written "Mustang" catalog number 16952, if I did read correctly.
Sorry, I didn't notice this before!

Following is the box from the auction's image cropped and rotated
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8681/clipboard01iw.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/clipboard01iw.jpg/)

Great info and sharp eyes.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 16, 2013, 12:06:11 AM
My little contribution for today ...  ;)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44928;image)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=44930;image)

Very nice pictures.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 16, 2013, 02:05:07 AM
For years I've owned exactly one Wenger, an Esquire (Realtree camo) that was given to me. This week I've bought five Wengers, as follows: SI, Tradesman, Viking, Golf Pro, and another Esquire. Today the latter four came (a couple lots of NTSA seizures cheap on eBay). This was my first experience with 85mm Wengers.

First, the good. The Tradesman is a really interesting alternative to my Deluxe Tinker, with (IMHO) better pliers, an interesting scissors spring alternative, and an easier to carry size.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/mudshrimpmoe/Knives/CAM000851_zpse6eebb7b.jpg)(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/mudshrimpmoe/Knives/CAM000861_zpse0e6a0d1.jpg)

I also like how the keychain ring has a little chain.

I was less impressed with the Viking and Golf Pro. Both had loose pivots on the side with the cap lifter/flat screwdriver. I took off the scales and pinged the pivot rod ends with a small hammer.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/mudshrimpmoe/Knives/CAM000821_zps21da88e1.jpg)

I knew both knives were pretty heavily used and everything. Yet I've bought many Victorinox's in similar used condition and have never had to tighten the pivot rods like that. The Viking needed the same treatment. Fixing both of them was no big effort. But it's a little disconcerting. I also found the main blade on the Viking tends to hit the small blade when it's closed. Seems to be a little design issue. Also, no toothpick or tweezers on the Viking ..... seems a bit cheap.

The Golf Pro is an interesting piece of kit. I have the Vic Golfer as well. The Golf Pro is less useful (no scissors or screwdriver, and no "Plus" tools) but kind of fun. I don't even play golf, btw.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/mudshrimpmoe/Knives/CAM000841_zps7b4ba472.jpg)

I have to say that overall, these 85mm Wengers don't impress me as matching Victorinox quality. I have not tried the Evo series yet, which represents more contemporary Wenger. I thought the SI was equal to Victorinox quality. So perhaps the newer models are as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on February 16, 2013, 02:17:49 AM
The Tradesman is one of my favorite SAKs.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on February 16, 2013, 02:23:43 AM
Excellent review.  I too prefer Vic quality over most Wengers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on February 16, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
I tried the Wenger scissors and pliers for the first time. Springs are a little weaker then Vic.
The reverse movement takes getting used to. Looks like a strong construction.
But I like the Vic better in action/performance then Wenger.
It's nice you can adjust the Wenger pliers, but for finer tasks like pulling a splinter it is really ackward.
The small Vic pliers still rule for me, better gripping, preciser to operate.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 16, 2013, 02:18:33 PM
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I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.


ColoSwiss, Thanks for the image of the great condition Mustang.  I used this image for the SAKwiki page on this knife.  Boy whoever won that auction on the 23rd got one heck of a deal.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on February 16, 2013, 08:31:12 PM
The Tradesman is one of my favorite SAKs.  :tu:

Mine too now! Adds to wish list....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 17, 2013, 12:14:04 AM
---
I have a 'Horse' in near-mint condition, but have no info on it. Don't know if that's its name, or what its model number is.



ColoSwiss, Thanks for the image of the great condition Mustang.  I used this image for the SAKwiki page on this knife.  Boy whoever won that auction on the 23rd got one heck of a deal.

Glad it was of use. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MARIOS7319 on February 17, 2013, 11:50:17 AM
Guys check this rare Wenger knife that is for sell in Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Wood-Jr-Swiss-Army-Knife-Complete-in-box-w-papers-Discontinued-Model-New-/130851625636?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item1e775d5aa4

I have never seeing it before.
From the tools i can see (and the box), is a genuine Wenger knife.
Too bad the seller doesn't send to Europe. >:(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on February 17, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
Guys check this rare Wenger knife that is for sell in Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Wood-Jr-Swiss-Army-Knife-Complete-in-box-w-papers-Discontinued-Model-New-/130851625636?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item1e775d5aa4

I have never seeing it before.
From the tools i can see (and the box), is a genuine Wenger knife.
Too bad the seller doesn't send to Europe. >:(

Taken from SAKwiki (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Esquire):

Quote
The Wood 01 was a 2009 collaboration with EKA of Sweden who supplied wooden scales, and these scales used large brass fittings for mounting that also replaced the typical rivets used to assemble the knives (the brass fittings appear structural, but could be for decoration). This variation does not include the Toothpick or Tweezers.

Cool looking little Wenger I'd say. 8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 17, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
Let us hope that one day ebay will allow us Brits to bid/buy on MT's & SAK's.

It really does get my goat that they take the high view on SAK's & MT's etc which aren't actually illegal, yet then turn a blind eye to all sorts of openly obvious knocked off gear to be sold thus allowing a sales platform for criminal activity.

Pretty disgraceful really.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MARIOS7319 on February 17, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
Thanks for the info, i don't know much about Wenger knives as i know for Victorinox knives.
But always be surprised with some Swiss knife that show up and i didn't know about it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on February 17, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
Guys check this rare Wenger knife that is for sell in Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Wood-Jr-Swiss-Army-Knife-Complete-in-box-w-papers-Discontinued-Model-New-/130851625636?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item1e775d5aa4

I have never seeing it before.
From the tools i can see (and the box), is a genuine Wenger knife.
Too bad the seller doesn't send to Europe. >:(

EKA knife. Check this thread for more info:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43061.0.html
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 17, 2013, 07:36:06 PM
Here is the catalog page for the EKA
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2426&scalesize=o
Title: Ranger Spearfishing Knife
Post by: basilio on February 19, 2013, 03:33:17 PM
Hello,
I'm attaching pictures of what I believe is a great find!
When I first saw the knife, I thought it was probably a special order made for some company, as I never saw, in the Ranger line, the marlinspike tool equipped in a no-Alinghi knife.
The orange color, as seen on some european-only Wenger Ranger, was interesting too.
Well, after researching a bit, I found some interesting information.
From the Wenger site
http://www.wenger.ch/spearfishing-world-championship
it appears to be a special run made by Wenger to commemorate the 27th Spearfishing World Championship which was held in Croatia on 2010.
According to the link above the knife was given to all participants to use in the competition.
According, also, to the first document found on the bottom of this page
http://www.cmas.org/spearfishing/114-29019-php
there were in total 63 competitors.
I think there were probably more knives made, but not too many.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 19, 2013, 03:37:46 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 19, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
Quote from: basilio
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45262;image)


Wow, very nice find. :tu: Never seen this one. If you find any more info or need something on it translated from Croatian, let me know. I'd be happy to help. :salute:
Title: Re: Ranger Spearfishing Knife
Post by: North Man on February 19, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
Hello,
I'm attaching pictures of what I believe is a great find!
When I first saw the knife, I thought it was probably a special order made for some company, as I never saw, in the Ranger line, the marlinspike tool equipped in a no-Alinghi knife.
The orange color, as seen on some european-only Wenger Ranger, was interesting too.
Well, after researching a bit, I found some interesting information.
From the Wenger site
http://www.wenger.ch/spearfishing-world-championship
it appears to be a special run made by Wenger to commemorate the 27th Spearfishing World Championship which was held in Croatia on 2010.
According to the link above the knife was given to all participants to use in the competition.
According, also, to the first document found on the bottom of this page
http://www.cmas.org/spearfishing/114-29019-php
there were in total 63 competitors.
I think there were probably more knives made, but not too many.

yes this fit my info, i have read some on this knife, i do not have one but i would say a great find!
Title: Re: Ranger Spearfishing Knife
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 19, 2013, 10:06:57 PM
Hello,
I'm attaching pictures of what I believe is a great find!
When I first saw the knife, I thought it was probably a special order made for some company, as I never saw, in the Ranger line, the marlinspike tool equipped in a no-Alinghi knife.
The orange color, as seen on some european-only Wenger Ranger, was interesting too.
Well, after researching a bit, I found some interesting information.
From the Wenger site
http://www.wenger.ch/spearfishing-world-championship
it appears to be a special run made by Wenger to commemorate the 27th Spearfishing World Championship which was held in Croatia on 2010.
According to the link above the knife was given to all participants to use in the competition.
According, also, to the first document found on the bottom of this page
http://www.cmas.org/spearfishing/114-29019-php
there were in total 63 competitors.
I think there were probably more knives made, but not too many.

Interesting knife. Thanks for the info.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 19, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

Its a 'Blue Marble' Macao, with lacquered handles.

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1810

(the photo is of my collection.  :D)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 19, 2013, 10:20:50 PM
Wenger SI without cross...

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 19, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
Wenger SI without cross...

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345

Don't think I've ever seen one like that. Great find!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 19, 2013, 10:28:36 PM
Wenger SI without cross...

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.msg694345.html#msg694345)

What, when, how,...? :ahhh Is this new stock or a a factory mishap?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 19, 2013, 10:59:13 PM
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales  :)

On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01  and was made 07/2012

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 19, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales  :)

On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01  and was made 07/2012



So an added .01 to the standard. More likely they aren't allowed to use the official shield anymore as they are no longer under the government contract, so they are using up their back scales. 

BTW. was there any follow up on the story about the government suing Victorinox and Wenger for using the federate shield on their non army knives, bags, watches, ... ? I haven't been following the story for some time now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on February 19, 2013, 11:05:57 PM
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales  :)

On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01  and was made 07/2012



So an added .01 to the standard. More likely they aren't allowed to use the official shield anymore as they are no longer under the government contract, so they are using up their back scales.
that would be my guess as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 19, 2013, 11:35:24 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

Its a 'Blue Marble' Macao, with lacquered handles.

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1810

(the photo is of my collection.  :D)

Nice collection!
So it is possible to have a Macao with the ceramic nail file, like on mine example?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 19, 2013, 11:36:40 PM
Seems to be a regular item. Perhaps Wenger run out of frontscales  :)

On the box it is described as "Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01  and was made 07/2012
Never saw this variation before!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 19, 2013, 11:51:19 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

Its a 'Blue Marble' Macao, with lacquered handles.

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1810

(the photo is of my collection.  :D)

Nice collection!
So it is possible to have a Macao with the ceramic nail file, like on mine example?

All my Macaos have the regular steel nail file. Forgot the Lithos had the ceramic files. Was so busy looking at the handle I didn't pay attention to the blades. Went through my other fancy Esquires and only the Lithos have them. Nice find!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on February 20, 2013, 03:10:43 AM
Alox traveller with the locking blade, very nice.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 20, 2013, 10:05:18 AM

Wow, very nice find. :tu: Never seen this one. If you find any more info or need something on it translated from Croatian, let me know. I'd be happy to help. :salute:

Sorry, I forgot to answer.
Thank you for your offer to help! I did find all the informations in english, so it was not a problem.
Should I find more material that will need to be translated, I will let you know!  ;)


All my Macaos have the regular steel nail file. Forgot the Lithos had the ceramic files. Was so busy looking at the handle I didn't pay attention to the blades. Went through my other fancy Esquires and only the Lithos have them. Nice find!  :tu:

I'm wondering if it was a factory error, then  :think:

Alox traveller with the locking blade, very nice.

 :worthless:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 21, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45270;image)
Great Find!  Has to be pretty unique!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45262;image)
Very Nice!

"Swiss Army 70 sans croix" and it has a number AF.1.070.001.000.01  and was made 07/2012
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45278;image)

Very interesting find.  Maybe you can ask Wenger the story behind that one.

Looks like several people are turning up some really great Wenger models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on February 21, 2013, 12:17:52 AM
I think that the alox machine is delemont must be on fritz and they are using up old stock. That wod be the only reason to make it in that manner IMO. It might end up being very rare!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 21, 2013, 03:25:42 PM
I've had my first three Wenger 85mm's for about a week now and have to say I'm underwhelmed. Two needed pins to be hammered tighter to prevent atrocious side to side play. The third had a scissors screw go from tight to literally falling out with just a few uses. I was able to put it back in, but I'll have to be vigilant about tightening that screw often. All three have weak springs relative to Victorinox. I think the step down in quality would be obvious to most knife users.

These three were all used models, probably more than ten years old, and, hence, may only be a reflection of 1990's or early 2000's Wenger quality. But I've bought quite a few used Victorinox knives of similar age and condition and have never had problems like these. My sample is admittedly small and non-scientific. But I'll shop for Wengers with caution in the future.

I would like to try an newer Evo model, however, as I've heard Wenger quality rose after the Victorinox acquisition.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 21, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
It also depends how hard a life it's had before. If the previous owner has been working the tools hard and sprained the pins, it could account for at least some of the issues you're finding. Whilst many of my Wengers don't shout as loud on the snap on opening and closing, it's certainly not affected the functionality of them in use. Not sure what you mean by screwdriver screw though  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 21, 2013, 03:39:28 PM

Sorry, meant to say "scissors screw" and misspoke. And, yes, the current condition of these Wengers may well be a reflection of past use and abuse. But the same would be true of used Victorinox knives I've bought as well. It could be just chance that these Wengers were used harder. But it seems unlikely.

I don't wish to convey that I don't like the Wengers or regret my purchases, all of which were at pretty bargain prices. For the money paid, these Wengers are fun and functional. But their construction seems a bit delicate compared to similar Victorinox models. These will be users, so I'll see how well they hold up to hard use (but not abuse).

I also bought a 1990 SI a couple weeks ago (had a thread about restoring a snapped tip). I find the quality on it to be equal to the Victorinox alox models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 21, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Ah, ok - I'd suggest taking the screw out and putting a bit of threadlock or something gummy on the thread before putting it back. Threads wear, and temperature changes for such small threads can make a difference too sometimes  :tu: Oh - and don't over tighten the screw either, there is meant to be some play on the Wengers for them to work properly. The underside of the scissor arm has a chamfer, and a corresponding chamfer on the top of the spring lever. This is to kind of push the arms apart, which  in turn pushes the blades together  ;) Nip the screw up too tight and it will have an adverse effect  :salute:

I'd say 85mm Wengers aren't quite as robust as 91mm Vics, but a bit more robust than 84mm Vics. In some ways they are a little more robust with having the locking drivers, but that might lead people to work them a bit too hard ... which might have happened to yours  :)

I'd definitely give one of their newer models a try if you can to remove the "past abuse" issue. You'll still find the springs to be a little softer, but should eliminate all your other issues
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 21, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Understood. I had already planned to pick up some Lock-Tite this weekend and give the Tradesman some attention. Lock-Tite is good stuff to have around anyway.

I was lucky I didn't lose the screw altogether. What a pain that would have been to replace .... probably easier and possibly cheaper just to buy another used knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 21, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
Understood. I had already planned to pick up some Lock-Tite this weekend and give the Tradesman some attention. Lock-Tite is good stuff to have around anyway.

I was lucky I didn't lose the screw altogether. What a pain that would have been to replace .... probably easier and possibly cheaper just to buy another used knife.

Absolutely  :ahhh Good luck with it all, and don't forget to post how you get on  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 21, 2013, 06:44:25 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

i like it, interesting nailfile :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz on February 22, 2013, 12:08:23 AM
I've had my first three Wenger 85mm's for about a week now and have to say I'm underwhelmed...

These three were all used models, ...
As has already been mentioned... "There's your problem!"   :whistle:

My new Evo S14 is a great little SAK!  It's been my primary pocket carry SAK from the day I got it.  F & F are just as good as Vic's IMHO and there are some things I like about the Evo better than the comparable Vics.

I've got an S16, S52, and S557 all on my wish list now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Northern Geek on February 22, 2013, 08:32:59 AM
As has already been mentioned... "There's your problem!"   :whistle:

My new Evo S14 is a great little SAK!  It's been my primary pocket carry SAK from the day I got it.  F & F are just as good as Vic's IMHO and there are some things I like about the Evo better than the comparable Vics.

I've got an S16, S52, and S557 all on my wish list now.

You prefer the evo scales over the classic scales then?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on February 22, 2013, 09:30:50 AM
My first encouter with a Wenger was just as negative.  I picked up a used Forrester on ebay and it was awful; bent blade, loose spring action, bent saw etc.  Finally I had to pull the whole thing appart and I rebuilt it as a Traveller, much better knife now.  I have had no such issues when buying a new Wenger though. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on February 22, 2013, 09:59:30 AM
I definately give folks the warning light on picking up too many Wengers online at once unless the seller has a good rep for honesty and good descriptions.  After handling several from ye old auction site, the conditions have been all over the place.  Of special note is the scissors, scissors pivot can be very squirelly (I suppose that could be true for Vics as well).  Luckily my key Wengers- a Metal 50, Master, and Galahad Lock have been pretty good.  The MB spring in the Master seems to be extra soft though, so it might be going in to the shop.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 22, 2013, 03:28:38 PM
Absolutely  :ahhh Good luck with it all, and don't forget to post how you get on  :salute:


Well, I bought some Lock-Tite last night and redid the scissors screw. The Lock-Tite is less viscous (i.e. more watery) than I had expected and, consequently, I'm not sure how much of it is actually on the the threads. It's more than a bit fiddly to align the scissor blades and get that tiny screw threaded and screwed in with only two hands and a Vic mini screwdriver. But I'm sure at least a tiny amount of Lock-Tite is in there now and am hoping for the best.

If this doesn't hold well, I may try unscrewing it slightly and applying the Lock-Tite from the bottom and then retightening (but not over tightening) the screw. I put the drop of Lock-Tite in the hole before putting in the screw, which is a delicate operation as described above.

Anyway, a boring story for you ... but you asked!  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 22, 2013, 06:03:19 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_4325.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_4326.jpg)

Fly fisherman catch, new.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 22, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
Absolutely  :ahhh Good luck with it all, and don't forget to post how you get on  :salute:


Well, I bought some Lock-Tite last night and redid the scissors screw. The Lock-Tite is less viscous (i.e. more watery) than I had expected and, consequently, I'm not sure how much of it is actually on the the threads. It's more than a bit fiddly to align the scissor blades and get that tiny screw threaded and screwed in with only two hands and a Vic mini screwdriver. But I'm sure at least a tiny amount of Lock-Tite is in there now and am hoping for the best.

If this doesn't hold well, I may try unscrewing it slightly and applying the Lock-Tite from the bottom and then retightening (but not over tightening) the screw. I put the drop of Lock-Tite in the hole before putting in the screw, which is a delicate operation as described above.

Anyway, a boring story for you ... but you asked!  ;)

Nice one  :tu: I'd allow it twice the cure time it says on the packaging then try it with a screwdriver. At least that way you can have another crack at it by backfilling the hole as you said  :salute:

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_4325.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_4326.jpg)

Fly fisherman catch, new.

Nice one - never seen those before  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 22, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
Nice one  :tu: I'd allow it twice the cure time it says on the packaging then try it with a screwdriver. At least that way you can have another crack at it by backfilling the hole as you said  :salute:




Yep.

The packaging says it sets in 10 min and fully cures in 24 hours. I put it away for about 90 minutes and gently tested it by working the scissors a couple times (couldn't quite resist ... plus I wondered if any Lock-Tite got between the scissor blades and might be a problem). Then I put it up and am not carrying it today. I'll test it with a screwdriver. I don't expect it to feel super-glued in there, but hope it's firm. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 22, 2013, 06:34:27 PM
 :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 22, 2013, 07:01:15 PM

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)

Fly fisherman catch, new.
Very nice, congratulations!
I think it is the model also known as Catch and Release.
Too bad that someone used too much the ceramic file.
Nice find  :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 22, 2013, 07:10:45 PM

Too bad that someone used too much the ceramic file.

The Wenger is new.
The file came like that and does not look used.
I assumed it was like that on the side to allow sharpening of hooks etc.
If you think it was used then I may need to discuss it with the seller
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rickinFL on February 22, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s625/mikey_likey1/DSC_2661_zps924f8539.jpg)
Portrait Session with my 557
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 22, 2013, 09:18:22 PM

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)

Fly fisherman catch, new.
Very nice, congratulations!
I think it is the model also known as Catch and Release.
Too bad that someone used too much the ceramic file.
Nice find  :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

Yes, we have a sakwiki entry for it as Catch and Release. http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Catch+and+Release

dks, do you have a model number on the box too. maybe a European identifier number we can add to the wiki? 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 22, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s625/mikey_likey1/DSC_2661_zps924f8539.jpg)
Portrait Session with my 557

Very cool photo Rick, did you use a mirror as surface for this one?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rickinFL on February 22, 2013, 09:22:09 PM
polished granite.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 22, 2013, 09:22:27 PM


The Wenger is new.
The file came like that and does not look used.
I assumed it was like that on the side to allow sharpening of hooks etc.
If you think it was used then I may need to discuss it with the seller
I suggest you to discuss, then.
here is a good picture by ICanFixThat, where you can see how the ceramic tool is supposed to be on both sides
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=File+-+Ceramic+Diamond+Coated
Perhaps I'm wrong, but that white part from your picture at the end of the file seems to me a sign of use.
I do have a mint "Troller" and I can confirm you that my ceramic tool is exactly the same as the one shown in the link above
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 22, 2013, 09:43:52 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_4325.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/7-IMG_4331.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_4326.jpg)

Fly fisherman catch, new.

That really is a great find, I've been looking for one of those for a little while. 

While I think the file may not be 100% correct, it looks more like a factory error, or possibly something they did on purpose at one time.  It does not look like usage to me from what I can see in the photo.

If you're unhappy, I'll happily accept it as I'm not likely to use that file.

I think the computer system had the name of the knife as "Fly Fisherman Catch & Release", but that was simply too long to print on the label.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 22, 2013, 09:58:48 PM
Enci, the knife was bought from a US seller.
The number given by him was 16956.
Here is the picture of the file given by the seller.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-SWISS-ARMY-FLY-FISHERMAN-CATCH-BY-WENGER-RARELY-SEEN-85mm-MODEL-NIB-/00/s/MTAyMFgxMzYw/$(KGrHqZ,!jgFB9U1tOzYBQvoCZbRO!~~60_57.JPG)

The seller describes the notch as a Fly-tying groove and it was made in 1996.
"Description: This discontinued model was listed in the 1998 Wenger catalogue as the "CATCH AND RELEASE".  It has 19 functions including a unique, diamond coated fish hook sharpener with a fly-tying groove..."

Maybe a fly fisherman will know.

As I said it looks like an intentional cut in the file rather than a mistake/damage.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 22, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
I like it... definetly looks intentional.  Was that an ebay buy-it-now deal I missed?

You scored!  :cheers:

....found it... great deal...  looks like I missed it twice
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 22, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
I was panic buying some weird wenger knives and was searching for some fishing style ones. The file looked unusual so I got it.
I wish it had a fish graphic on the scales like the other normal ones.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 22, 2013, 10:35:24 PM
I like it... definetly looks intentional.  Was that an ebay buy-it-now deal I missed?

You scored!  :cheers:

....found it... great deal...  looks like I missed it twice

Same seller both times. Maybe try contacting him, he might have another one he hasn't listed yet.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 22, 2013, 10:52:56 PM
My Orvis Catch and Release (left) has the bright polished notch at the end. The standard Catch and Release has the notch coated with abrasive. The Troller and Angler (right) simply have the hook sharpening groove. So it looks like your uncoated notch isn't a flaw. However I have no idea what its used for.

About half the fishing knives I have have a fly lure on the handle, about half are plain.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on February 22, 2013, 11:29:42 PM
  There are numerous fishing & fly tying knots (http://www.scientificanglers.com/plan-your-trip/fly-fishing-instruction/knot-tying-basics) that require sliding through various loops and the groove helps getting past and through the loops. I used a pair of slightly curved forceps cause am such a noob at knots. There are a few basic knots for tying lures, swivels, and line splicing that the groove really helps.

  Preferred forceps as could also cheat and hold the fly body with the eye up and open. Gave a bit more room for the larger loop-throughs. Could lay a backing line down in the forceps too, then wrap a leader around that. The groove was of immerse help.

  Back in my fly fishing days, or prior, we didn't have the internet.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 23, 2013, 10:34:32 AM
Many thanks!

Here are some better pictures of the file for your reference.

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/3-IMG_4344.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/2-IMG_4340.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/1-IMG_4332.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 23, 2013, 11:24:57 AM
Nice pics.  Would you like to upload those last 2 to the Wiki's 85mm Wenger Tool gallery, but trim the white space down on the close up, make it narrow like the last one and then it can be included full size on the detail page for this file. 

If you like I will trim and upload them for you.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 23, 2013, 11:48:42 AM
I have never put anything on Sakwiki so I will be happy if you do it.

I am attaching 4 pictures without watermarks for your use. There is a blue W on the box after the Wenger name and the cross which I assume was used at the time or denotes a fishing model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 23, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
Thanks!  I'm pretty sure the blue W on the Wenger logo was just their regular box logo at the time and didn't denote any special model or series.  Wenger has used the blue W on several different packagings. It is possible the Cross+blue W is a European logo rather than a US Logo.  Maybe Karl who likely has more Wenger boxes as an idea.  I have a Troller in original box without the blue logo.

It would have been OK to retain your small watermark. I'd just note in the description "used with permission".  People steal photos off the wiki all the time for their photogalleries or auction photos. I hate it when ebay dealers do it, because ebay makes it a pain in the butt to prove it's your photo now.

I also think the box may not date the same as the knife, there is a good chance they just used the box they had when they shipped it out of inventory.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 23, 2013, 01:00:15 PM
Thanks ColoSwiss for the pictures and clarification.
Double congratulations to dks for his find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 23, 2013, 04:42:22 PM
Here is a comparison of the groove, coated and uncoated based on Karl's image.  It's  a bit small after being cut down to the essentials.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45474;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 23, 2013, 11:16:42 PM
Here's a better shot of the three file variations.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 24, 2013, 01:39:10 AM
Here's a better shot of the three file variations.
Oh man if only you had posted it a bit sooner... OK I could not help it... my OCD kicked in and I spent a couple hours taking it apart and putting it back together.  Luckily I do learn something from these exercises.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 24, 2013, 02:03:25 AM
Here's a better shot of the three file variations.
Oh man if only you had posted it a bit sooner... OK I could not help it... my OCD kicked in and I spent a couple hours taking it apart and putting it back together.  Luckily I do learn something from these exercises.

Admit it, you're having fun!  :D

When I fool around with the computer I generally learn I should have left well enough alone.  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 24, 2013, 08:54:49 PM
I don't know if I noticed this before, but maybe that's why I buy the same knives again just to rediscover them.  Here these old Wenger Scissors happen to have a maker's stamp which I thought was pretty cool.  On this knife the smal blade, which Wenger marks some times, does not have a stamp.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45558;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 24, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
I don't know if I noticed this before, but maybe that's why I buy the same knives again just to rediscover them.  Here these old Wenger Scissors happen to have a maker's stamp which I thought was pretty cool.  On this knife the smal blade, which Wenger marks some times, does not have a stamp.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45558;image)

Interesting. None of my old Wenger scissors have any markings on them. Nice find and great eyes. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 25, 2013, 12:24:37 AM
I'm happy, because the knife is great in everyway except the tip of the small blade is broken about 1cm off so it's hard to fix in a nice way.  Still the knife looked good so I thought I better give it a home with friends, this stamp was a nice surprise.  Came with a really good quality long chain too, they just don't make them like the use to.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 25, 2013, 01:40:54 AM
A couple slightly different Wengers.  A Grafter/Budding knife with a different logo, and a more teal-green Patriot with no logos.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 25, 2013, 02:23:04 AM
A Wenger Motorist.  I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file.  It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 25, 2013, 04:00:48 AM
A couple slightly different Wengers.  A Grafter/Budding knife with a different logo, and a more teal-green Patriot with no logos.

Was told by a jewelry store clerk that the Patriots and Secretaries without logos were sold to jewelry stores for engraving.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 25, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
I don't know if I noticed this before, but maybe that's why I buy the same knives again just to rediscover them.  Here these old Wenger Scissors happen to have a maker's stamp which I thought was pretty cool.  On this knife the smal blade, which Wenger marks some times, does not have a stamp.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45558;image)

interesting markings!
like the Grafting model :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 25, 2013, 05:39:12 PM
A Wenger Motorist.  I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file.  It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.
I agree, love this model.
Untill now I was able to find three different sub-variants:
1) without the old car logo;
2) with the old car logo embossed/hot stamped (like in the picture above);
3) with the old car logo printed (more recent)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 25, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
Sorry if it was discussed before (made a search but was not able to find anything).
From the Wenger North America website there are four Realtree Camo Ap Snow listed coming on March 2013
http://www.wengerna.com/realtree-camo
The snow camo pattern looks really nice, in my opinion.
I will probably grab one or two.
Was it old news?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 25, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
4 models was new to me,  i saw the snow camo scales on facebook just recent, really cool :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 25, 2013, 11:27:07 PM
A Wenger Motorist.  I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file.  It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.
I agree, love this model.
Untill now I was able to find three different sub-variants:
1) without the old car logo;
2) with the old car logo embossed/hot stamped (like in the picture above);
3) with the old car logo printed (more recent)

Carlo,

Here are three of the Motorist, two of them with St. Christopher (with and without bail).

Thanks for the heads-up on the Realtree Snow; hadn't seen that before.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on February 26, 2013, 12:00:49 AM
  Don't suppose Wenger had used diamond files on theirs?

  Metal files do not seem to stand up over time, least for me. Though the crosscut files do. :think:
  Not had a file on a knife/SAK before, but I prefer the diamond/crosscut on Leatherman tools. Those with metal files I never found much use for.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 26, 2013, 12:55:40 AM
Nice Snow Camo, I think we saw these in the SHot Show 2013 coverage.  Good to see that they will make it to the market, I will have to get one of the rangers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 26, 2013, 03:23:41 AM
A Wenger Motorist.  I'd really like this model more if it had the small blade rather than the nail file.  It has a nice general tool collection though for a medium+ SAK.
I agree, love this model.
Untill now I was able to find three different sub-variants:
1) without the old car logo;
2) with the old car logo embossed/hot stamped (like in the picture above);
3) with the old car logo printed (more recent)

Carlo,

Here are three of the Motorist, two of them with St. Christopher (with and without bail).

Thanks for the heads-up on the Realtree Snow; hadn't seen that before.

Karl

It would help if I learned to read. You're talking about WENGER Motorist; I'm showing VICTORINOX Motorist. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Echo on February 26, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
I have a little love for Wenger SI  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 26, 2013, 03:53:32 PM
I have a little love for Wenger SI  :tu:
Nice picture!


It would help if I learned to read. You're talking about WENGER Motorist; I'm showing VICTORINOX Motorist. :facepalm:
No problems, since the Wenger/Victorinox models share the same name they are easy to confuse...plus your pictures are great anyway!

Getting to the point.

Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.

I just found myself this little variant, with red scales and a "CIBA" logo on the back (see attachments).
On the Sakwiki we have an entry for this model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pointer
with the name "Pointer": is that name somehow confirmed?
I think that otherwise we could edit it, as this creates confusion with a completely different knife, but with the very same name.
I'm referring to the model with the "dog" image on the front scales, called "Pointer", catalog 16995.
Karl showed a picture of this model few pages back, and exactly here
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Echo on February 26, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
Cheers  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 26, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
I have a little love for Wenger SI  :tu:
Nice picture!


It would help if I learned to read. You're talking about WENGER Motorist; I'm showing VICTORINOX Motorist. :facepalm:
No problems, since the Wenger/Victorinox models share the same name they are easy to confuse...plus your pictures are great anyway!

Getting to the point.

Wenger Director with phillips and Manager with corkscrew. Also a small 4-blade model I don't have a name for.

I just found myself this little variant, with red scales and a "CIBA" logo on the back (see attachments).
On the Sakwiki we have an entry for this model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pointer
with the name "Pointer": is that name somehow confirmed?
I think that otherwise we could edit it, as this creates confusion with a completely different knife, but with the very same name.
I'm referring to the model with the "dog" image on the front scales, called "Pointer", catalog 16995.
Karl showed a picture of this model few pages back, and exactly here
Here's a selection of Wenger imprints.

The large knife with a dog is definitely a 'Pointer' (though the dog looks more like a setter).

The small knife is listed in SAKwiki as a 'Pointer', but no model number or other info is given. Wouldn't be the first time Wenger's recycled a name. I'd say go with it until we have different information. I have a black-handled version from 'Mont Terri', a Swiss mineralogy lab.

Maybe should add the 'doggy' Pointer to the wiki. If a better photo is needed let me know.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on February 26, 2013, 10:53:04 PM
I have a little love for Wenger SI  :tu:

That's a really big lanyard!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 26, 2013, 11:22:51 PM
Figure while I had the knife out I'd take a couple of photos.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Echo on February 26, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
I have a little love for Wenger SI  :tu:

That's a really big lanyard!

That's how much love I have for Wenger - never want to lose it!!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 27, 2013, 12:41:13 PM
Figure while I had the knife out I'd take a couple of photos.
Nice!
I have one as well that I bought on ebay few months ago.
Mine example was in very good condition apart from the missing magnifying glass.
After some time, I found in a shop some odd replacements parts including a replacement lens which seems made of plastic.
I had to sand it a little on the borders, but was not difficult to install it back on the knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 27, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Hi, i like the Pointer knife with the dog icon :)

I am glad i have been part of this topic, its the best. I do live with an brain injury for real,  Victorinox and Wenger is the greatest joy to share and talk about..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 27, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
works on fruits

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45740;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Echo on February 27, 2013, 11:08:56 PM
I really do like that orange Wenger!! Beautiful  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 28, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
I already had the smaller Mike Horn model so I decided to get the proper one too:

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4378.jpg)

Strangley, the serrated blade locks but the main one, does not  ???

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4377.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4376.jpg)

The pliers feel as strong/solid as the LM Juice ones. Not heavy duty.

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4379.jpg)

I like the file

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4381.jpg)

Unusual reamer (and solitary).

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4382.jpg)

One of the bits went a bit  ;) further in the sheath and it was a pain to get out. Definitely not easy to get out quickly.

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4384.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_4386.jpg)

For more: http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Mike+Horn+Ranger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on February 28, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Nice Wenger!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on February 28, 2013, 08:43:18 PM
Great stuff. Lovely pics as usual :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on February 28, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Now lets wait a few years for its value to go up...    :o


 :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: space cowboy on February 28, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
Wenger sucks compared to victorinox. IMO
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 28, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
Wenger sucks compared to victorinox. IMO

Which Wenger did you carry and use that caused you to think so?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mud Shrimp Moe on February 28, 2013, 09:22:21 PM
I'm not speaking for Space Cowboy, but I will say that one disappointing thing about Wenger models is that any time I find one that I think I'll like, I quickly find a complimentary Victorinox model that is much cheaper in price.

Today it was the Evowood models. I've been curious about those. I found a couple at what I thought were great prices (relative to what I've been seeing on eBay). Well, then I found a hardwood scaled Victorinox Huntsman that had more tools and was >25% less than the comparable Evowood that had a toolset like a Spartan.

I'm sorry to see the Wenger brand go, but if one of the two SAK brands had to go, I'm sure glad it was NOT Victorinox. Victorinox products are generally superior in overall F&F in my experience. And the great majority of the time they are cheaper to boot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 01, 2013, 02:23:47 AM
Great stuff. Lovely pics as usual :tu:
+1 Very nice Pics, and a very interesting model from Wenger. I'm looking for a second one, but I'm waiting for a really good price.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: space cowboy on March 01, 2013, 02:30:48 AM
I'm not speaking for Space Cowboy, but I will say that one disappointing thing about Wenger models is that any time I find one that I think I'll like, I quickly find a complimentary Victorinox model that is much cheaper in price.

Today it was the Evowood models. I've been curious about those. I found a couple at what I thought were great prices (relative to what I've been seeing on eBay). Well, then I found a hardwood scaled Victorinox Huntsman that had more tools and was >25% less than the comparable Evowood that had a toolset like a Spartan.

I'm sorry to see the Wenger brand go, but if one of the two SAK brands had to go, I'm sure glad it was NOT Victorinox. Victorinox products are generally superior in overall F&F in my experience. And the great majority of the time they are cheaper to boot.
Exactly what Moe said!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 01, 2013, 12:14:29 PM
I'm not speaking for Space Cowboy, but I will say that one disappointing thing about Wenger models is that any time I find one that I think I'll like, I quickly find a complimentary Victorinox model that is much cheaper in price.

Today it was the Evowood models. I've been curious about those. I found a couple at what I thought were great prices (relative to what I've been seeing on eBay). Well, then I found a hardwood scaled Victorinox Huntsman that had more tools and was >25% less than the comparable Evowood that had a toolset like a Spartan.

I'm sorry to see the Wenger brand go, but if one of the two SAK brands had to go, I'm sure glad it was NOT Victorinox. Victorinox products are generally superior in overall F&F in my experience. And the great majority of the time they are cheaper to boot.
Exactly what Moe said!

I have a small brochure from Wenger printed around 1992-1995.
After a brief description of some of the most innovative patented tools (which Victorinox probably never think about), the brochure says (in italian)
"Benvenuti nella cerchia degli intenditori!", which translate into something like
"Welcome to the circle of connoisseurs!".
Everyone knows about Victorinox.
You find them everywhere.
Only few owns a Wenger  8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Singh on March 02, 2013, 06:49:11 PM
I just got my first Wenger, a brushed stainless traveler. The scissors bob up and down when you use them, so they are not really good for fine work. People complain about the dull Wenger awl, but the can opener can be pressed into service as a pokey thing.  A solid little knife.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/brushedtravlr032013a_zpsb3f45685.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 03, 2013, 03:48:08 AM
I just got my first Wenger, a brushed stainless traveler. The scissors bob up and down when you use them, so they are not really good for fine work. People complain about the dull Wenger awl, but the can opener can be pressed into service as a pokey thing.  A solid little knife.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/brushedtravlr032013a_zpsb3f45685.jpg)

Welcome to the club.  :tu:

I've EDC's a standard Traveler for years.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 03, 2013, 10:21:09 AM
The universal wrench is interesting and got many variations.
I wonder if it was introduced in the early 70s?, on my picture i got models from 1980-1990s. All of them are different with small variations and one of the most important variations is the cutouts/notches to grab the bolts.
Other variations is the symbolic drawing that shows the use of it, easy to see if you look on your knives. You will also see the shape of this tool got different shapes over the years.
The reason for my impression it was introduced in the early 70s : - from other knives and a manual showing this tool early on.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45960;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 03, 2013, 10:49:29 AM
  What are the two models on the far right, S557? They would appear to have more 'bite' than the others.
 :think:   Hmm...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 03, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
hi

the two to the far right is the Cyclist from i would say 1990-1994 or so, or around there.
More bite yes. Only very small differences between the two but its there.
ps by bite i mean the cutouts or notches is better to grab, the width/jaw is about the same on all
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 03, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
  Gave in, couldn't take the 557 teasing any longer. Ordered one from eBay, Time Eclectic out of Raleigh, North Carolina. Never done business with them, but they had free shipping with an ETA of the 7th.

  Had looked closer at their photos and it showed the better shoulders on the wrench. Would have hesitated if they were like the micro shoulders on the ones in your photo - far left.



  Noticed that they have a damacus Vic SAK, and this monster: Wenger 16391-SET Minathor 50 EvoWood Swiss Army Knife + 98831 Set + 89839 Pouch (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-16391-SET-Minathor-50-EvoWood-Swiss-Army-Knife-98831-Set-89839-Pouch/251208876906?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=015&category=75235&cmd=ViewItem). Never seen one of those in EvoWood. Spendy too, $275 US.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Wenger-16391-SET-Minathor-50-EvoWood-Swiss-Army-Knife-98831-Set-89839-Pouch-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNTE1/$%28KGrHqJ,!qIFDRl,sRyKBQ5gw%29!BRQ~~60_35.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 03, 2013, 01:13:13 PM

yes, tempting knife.
Take a pic when you get it, would be interesting to see the wrench
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twiliter on March 03, 2013, 01:47:45 PM
Time Eclectic is a good outfit, got both of mine through them but on Amazon. Took a photo with my marginal iPad camera, hopefully good enough to see the wrench teeth...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 03, 2013, 02:36:45 PM

nice :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 04, 2013, 10:02:15 AM
The universal wrench is interesting and got many variations.
I wonder if it was introduced in the early 70s?, on my picture i got models from 1980-1990s. All of them are different with small variations and one of the most important variations is the cutouts/notches to grab the bolts.
Other variations is the symbolic drawing that shows the use of it, easy to see if you look on your knives. You will also see the shape of this tool got different shapes over the years.
The reason for my impression it was introduced in the early 70s : - from other knives and a manual showing this tool early on.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45960;image)
Thanks, interesting comparison!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 04, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
Very interesting. :tu: I knew there were at least two, with fine and rough teeth, but never knew about the different tool shapes.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 04, 2013, 02:19:19 PM
That is a good wrench comparison. You don't mind if I steal that for the Wiki do you?

According to the Wenger Timeline on the wiki the wrench was released in 1977, this date appears to be based on product advertisements.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 04, 2013, 05:20:21 PM
That is a good wrench comparison. You don't mind if I steal that for the Wiki do you?

According to the Wenger Timeline on the wiki the wrench was released in 1977, this date appears to be based on product advertisements.

thanks, yes you can use it on the SakWiki  :)
1977 is interesting
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 04, 2013, 10:46:22 PM
That is a good wrench comparison. You don't mind if I steal that for the Wiki do you?

According to the Wenger Timeline on the wiki the wrench was released in 1977, this date appears to be based on product advertisements.

thanks, yes you can use it on the SakWiki  :)
1977 is interesting

  Amazing. Was a sophomore in high school back then.  :rofl:   :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 05, 2013, 12:21:52 PM

 i did not get it, sophomore? :) :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 05, 2013, 01:20:37 PM

 i did not get it, sophomore? :) :tu:

  High school ranks: 1st year is Freshman, 2nd year is Sophomore, 3rd year is Junior, 4th and final year for graduation is Senior. Least here in the US.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on March 05, 2013, 01:20:54 PM
Just got it today:
Wenger Classic 62
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2qn00gn.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/14v2wir.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 05, 2013, 01:49:40 PM

 i did not get it, sophomore? :) :tu:

  High school ranks: 1st year is Freshman, 2nd year is Sophomore, 3rd year is Junior, 4th and final year for graduation is Senior. Least here in the US.
yes now i see, lol  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 05, 2013, 02:11:44 PM
My Orvis Catch and Release (left) has the bright polished notch at the end. The standard Catch and Release has the notch coated with abrasive. The Troller and Angler (right) simply have the hook sharpening groove. So it looks like your uncoated notch isn't a flaw. However I have no idea what its used for.

About half the fishing knives I have have a fly lure on the handle, about half are plain.

Karl,
could you post a picture of your "Angler" with the tools opened?
I'm not sure if the model I have (see attachments) is or not an Angler.
The box has the same catalog number as the "Troller"(1 45 03), but I found it listed as "Angler".
In fact my knife has exactly the same configuration as the Troller, not considering the fly lure on the front scale.
Is there any reference about the so called "Angler"?
I was not able to find any information about it.
To my surprise the cermic file of my knife has the notch discussed above.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 05, 2013, 09:45:53 PM
Time Eclectic is a good outfit, got both of mine through them but on Amazon. Took a photo with my marginal iPad camera, hopefully good enough to see the wrench teeth...

  Just a side note: Has anyone else noticed that 'Time Eclectic' uses a unique coding on their replies?
  <extended ASCII code snipped> Googling that brings up (https://www.google.com/search?q=%E1%9A%9B%E1%9A%88%E1%9A%94%E1%9A%8B%E1%9A%93%E1%9A%93%E1%9A%89%E1%9A%82%E1%9A%93%E1%9A%89%E1%9A%88%E1%9A%94%E1%9A%89%E1%9A%9C&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) something interesting.  ;)

  Noticed that the other day. Gives them a unique time code presence on search engines.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twiliter on March 05, 2013, 11:17:12 PM
  Amazing. Was a sophomore in high school back then.  :rofl:   :D

+1  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 05, 2013, 11:49:45 PM
My Orvis Catch and Release (left) has the bright polished notch at the end. The standard Catch and Release has the notch coated with abrasive. The Troller and Angler (right) simply have the hook sharpening groove. So it looks like your uncoated notch isn't a flaw. However I have no idea what its used for.

About half the fishing knives I have have a fly lure on the handle, about half are plain.

Karl,
could you post a picture of your "Angler" with the tools opened?
I'm not sure if the model I have (see attachments) is or not an Angler.
The box has the same catalog number as the "Troller"(1 45 03), but I found it listed as "Angler".
In fact my knife has exactly the same configuration as the Troller, not considering the fly lure on the front scale.
Is there any reference about the so called "Angler"?
I was not able to find any information about it.
To my surprise the cermic file of my knife has the notch discussed above.

Hi Carlo,

More fun-and-games with Wenger. The Troller (1.45.03 / 16962)(what you show above) was sold in at least one market as the Angler. The other Angler (1.44.03 / ? ) that I have is basically a Troller without the scissors. It was also sold as the Pecheur. I have versions both with a fly lure on the handle and plain.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 04:39:00 AM
Just got me one Swiss Army 70 sans croix as well and I like it (removed the bail first thing though).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 04:42:37 AM
Also just in a few thin alox (including a Watchmaker 85 thanks to Tim)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 04:45:18 AM
... and few new 85s from MEC, for sake of buying a few more Wenger SAKs brand new from a local store before they will dissapear:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 05:00:54 AM
And thanks to Rick, for FVEAP (:hatsoff:) a super cool old Ranger.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43259.new.html#new

The scales color is a dark kaki sort of green, not black. The emblem is on aluminium. Side lock. I like this SAK a lot. Here it is along with a new EvoWood Ranger:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 05:04:32 AM
And few Wenger Profis (Professionals). The '87 one is an extra from Rick received with the old 2001 Jura Ranger: 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 05:05:52 AM
Two more

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 06, 2013, 05:48:30 AM
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 06, 2013, 05:50:32 AM
  I likes them wood handled Rangers.  Some year maybe... way over budget at present.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Donald on March 06, 2013, 06:00:55 AM
Some wonderful Wengers in this thread!  :tool: :D

Seeing the brilliant blaze orange camo model made me wonder, is that an applied finish that might wear off like on the Vics, or is it molded in?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 06, 2013, 10:23:46 AM

Hi Carlo,

More fun-and-games with Wenger. The Troller (1.45.03 / 16962)(what you show above) was sold in at least one market as the Angler. The other Angler (1.44.03 / ? ) that I have is basically a Troller without the scissors. It was also sold as the Pecheur. I have versions both with a fly lure on the handle and plain.

Thank you Karl,
exactly the informations I was looking for!
By the way, my "Angler/Troller" came from the UK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 06, 2013, 10:26:14 AM
Just got me one Swiss Army 70 sans croix as well and I like it (removed the bail first thing though).

Nice one and congratulations also for the "Professional" series!
Is there a source in Europe for the "sans croix" variant?


Seeing the brilliant blaze orange camo model made me wonder, is that an applied finish that might wear off like on the Vics, or is it molded in?
I don't have the AP blaze, but if they are made like the Hardwoods serie (camo), the finish is just printed, so it will wear off with use.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 11:08:20 AM
two scouts, really well made knives :)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46173;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
some candy :)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46181;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 06, 2013, 12:29:34 PM
some candy :)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46181;image)

Very cool additions. I wish the 65mm line had more models/tools to offer.

And those scouts. :drool: Does the Sécurité 17/Forester have a locking bottle opener/screwdriver?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on March 06, 2013, 12:56:27 PM
Looks like you broke a tooth off trying to eat that candy  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 01:01:34 PM
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so  since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
Looks like you broke a tooth off trying to eat that candy  :)

yes its a shark tooth i got, not sure from what type. Sharp like the knife almost :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:

Thanks  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 02:35:09 PM
Just got me one Swiss Army 70 sans croix as well and I like it (removed the bail first thing though).

Nice one and congratulations also for the "Professional" series!
Is there a source in Europe for the "sans croix" variant?


Seeing the brilliant blaze orange camo model made me wonder, is that an applied finish that might wear off like on the Vics, or is it molded in?
I don't have the AP blaze, but if they are made like the Hardwoods serie (camo), the finish is just printed, so it will wear off with use.

The sans croix SIs I think (I may be wrong) they are available new only in Europe and that there may be a limited series, last alox SIs produced ever with the last parts available, less the front scale. I found mine at a seller from Germany and they had at least another at the time. They are not advertised as being special in any way and this may make them harder to spot.

The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 02:38:18 PM
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:

Thanks  :salute:

same from me Marius, that Ranger is amazing looking!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 02:47:03 PM
  I likes them wood handled Rangers.  Some year maybe... way over budget at present.

The wood is walnut, same as the rest of EvoWoods. I think that this is the only Ranger model done in EvoWood, called "RangerWood 55", basically a Ranger 55 in thick and solid walnut scales. Unfortunately yes, same as most smaller EvoWoods, they tend more expensive compared with the plastic handled variants.

A few more pics of this one:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 02:49:13 PM
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:

Thanks  :salute:

same from me Marius, that Ranger is amazing looking!

Thanks! It's a superb SAK, very functional too, not just good looking. I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 06, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
  I likes them wood handled Rangers.  Some year maybe... way over budget at present.

The wood is walnut, same as the rest of EvoWoods. I think that this is the only Ranger model done in EvoWood, called "RangerWood 55", basically a Ranger 55 in thick and solid walnut scales. Unfortunately yes, same as most smaller EvoWoods, they tend more expensive compared with the plastic handled variants.

A few more pics of this one:

 :cheers:

  Never really cared for that style of knife till I saw it in the walnut wood scales. That is one sexy knife!  :drool:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46191;image)


  Peeked over at Wenger's site (http://www.wengerna.com/rangerwood-55-16379) and ironically they actually have an awl with a sewing eye on that model. The knives, if am not mistaken, do not have the sewing eye. Wonder how this one got it and the knives didn't?  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
Looks like you hit the jackpot big time. That old Ranger is definitely neat. Multiple :tu:

Thanks  :salute:

same from me Marius, that Ranger is amazing looking!

Thanks! It's a superb SAK, very functional too, not just good looking. I like it a lot.
you are welcome :tu:
These Rangers are really well made

i did mention i have an interest for ergonomics, just a few weeks ago i got a Swibo         2 21 16. It must the best developed handle i have seen so far. The safety ergonomics and comfort in the hand is the best. The blade is straight from the handle aswell and the sharpness is outstanding.
 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46195;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
  Peeked over at Wenger's site (http://www.wengerna.com/rangerwood-55-16379) and ironically they actually have an awl with a sewing eye on that model. The knives, if am not mistaken, do not have the sewing eye. Wonder how this one got it and the knives didn't?  :think:

I just checked and this RangerWood 55 of mine indeed has the sewing hole on the awl. Same as the older Jura Ranger also has. From a quick look around on the Web it seems that all Rangers (with the awl) have it. So I think the missing eyelet is only for the smaller Wengers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 06, 2013, 03:40:41 PM
i did mention i have an interest for ergonomics, just a few weeks ago i got a Swibo         2 21 16. It must the best developed handle i have seen so far. The safety ergonomics and comfort in the hand is the best. The blade is straight from the handle aswell and the sharpness is outstanding.

Very interesting :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 06, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Wow, great pictures!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 03:51:51 PM
i did mention i have an interest for ergonomics, just a few weeks ago i got a Swibo         2 21 16. It must the best developed handle i have seen so far. The safety ergonomics and comfort in the hand is the best. The blade is straight from the handle aswell and the sharpness is outstanding.

Very interesting :cheers:

yes :cheers:

I see the Swibo got different handles also, must check up on them more. It is the best i have seen so far among all kinds of knife brand handles. I wonder who is the mind behind it. Probarbly a result of the long history -still i can not find any bad to say. Only thing is two places got a small notch from the molding, that is on the finger guard part in front. also a small notch on the back protector part. This can be dehorned easy with a SAK blade if one want. There are many combinations to a knife handle, this i like alot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
  I likes them wood handled Rangers.  Some year maybe... way over budget at present.

The wood is walnut, same as the rest of EvoWoods. I think that this is the only Ranger model done in EvoWood, called "RangerWood 55", basically a Ranger 55 in thick and solid walnut scales. Unfortunately yes, same as most smaller EvoWoods, they tend more expensive compared with the plastic handled variants.

A few more pics of this one:

 :cheers:

  Never really cared for that style of knife till I saw it in the walnut wood scales. That is one sexy knife!  :drool:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46191;image)


  Peeked over at Wenger's site (http://www.wengerna.com/rangerwood-55-16379) and ironically they actually have an awl with a sewing eye on that model. The knives, if am not mistaken, do not have the sewing eye. Wonder how this one got it and the knives didn't?  :think:

I like this knife - so far i have only tried the RangerWood 55 in hand, i do not own one.
The ergonomics was great and the fit very good. Surface also very well done.

I have not seen many knives today at such a price/cost with so high quality. I am a fan of the old Ranger style , however i feel the new Rangers with evolution is really nice aswell. It is very difficult to make a good ergonomic handle for a one blade knife. On a multiple function knife is a completely different task. It is very hard to do.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 06, 2013, 06:38:43 PM

ps people!
i have still not been able to confirm the patent for pressfit scales, i know it was mentioned by Wenger they allowed Vic to use their patent for hidden rivets. Was it the type today with the pressfit over the rivet/bushings? Or just the fact it is "hidden" ?
I can see Wenger have used different methods for attaching the scales over the years that is hidden,? anybody
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 07, 2013, 11:53:16 AM

The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.

 :cheers:

Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 07, 2013, 12:00:23 PM

ps people!
i have still not been able to confirm the patent for pressfit scales, i know it was mentioned by Wenger they allowed Vic to use their patent for hidden rivets. Was it the type today with the pressfit over the rivet/bushings? Or just the fact it is "hidden" ?
I can see Wenger have used different methods for attaching the scales over the years that is hidden,? anybody

This is what I have on Wenger scales and rivets. I don't know if wenger allowed Vic to use them or had a patent on it. This is the first time I hear about it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3...le_Attachment_Methods.pdf (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30550284/Wenger_History_Hidden_Rivet_Scale_Attachment_Methods.pdf)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 07, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so  since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..

The reason I ask is cause I have the same model without the scouts logo with a locking blade but without the locking fl. screwdriver.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 07, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so  since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..

The reason I ask is cause I have the same model without the scouts logo with a locking blade but without the locking fl. screwdriver.

hi
thanks alot for the scale info, hopefully we will get info on this one day. Even if its just because of the 10 year patent mentioned one place.

interesting you got one without locking on the screwdriver , probarbly its been produced some time and maybe before the locking arrived, or it is because of production reasons :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 07, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
thanks
yes it does have locking fl.screwdriver. I believe these are mid 90s knives, also the scales are attached like today. Pressed over the rivits/bushings, probarby so  since i can not see any other way?
Wenger have used this from time to time since its their invention..

The reason I ask is cause I have the same model without the scouts logo with a locking blade but without the locking fl. screwdriver.

ps it could just be a variation on the Forester you got, not sure. Since without the emblem(scouts logo)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 07, 2013, 02:34:58 PM

The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.

 :cheers:

Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[

Oops.

Can you tell what color were the uncovered scale parts? Gray, or the base color on the camouflage pattern? Glossy or matte (same texture as the painted surfaces)?

Never had one of these camo Wengers myself (and to get a taste of the blaze I decided to get just this small one). It could also happen that the large 130 mm and the small 85 mm scales are finished in a different manner, given that first are hollow and the later solid (true, false? - never removed one but anyway they don't feel hollow).

 :cheers:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 07, 2013, 02:48:35 PM

Oops.

Can you tell what color were the uncovered scale parts? Gray, or the base color on the camouflage pattern? Glossy or matte (same texture as the painted surfaces)?

Never had one of these camo Wengers myself (and to get a taste of the blaze I decided to get just this small one). It could also happen that the large 130 mm and the small 85 mm scales are finished in a different manner, given that first are hollow and the later solid (true, false? - never removed one but anyway they don't feel hollow).

 :cheers:

Not sure, I just took two pictures from my "replacement".
The color seems matt gray.
It is probably the "base" color on which the camo pattern is printed
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 07, 2013, 02:55:38 PM

The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.

 :cheers:

Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[

Oops.

Can you tell what color were the uncovered scale parts? Gray, or the base color on the camouflage pattern? Glossy or matte (same texture as the painted surfaces)?

Never had one of these camo Wengers myself (and to get a taste of the blaze I decided to get just this small one). It could also happen that the large 130 mm and the small 85 mm scales are finished in a different manner, given that first are hollow and the later solid (true, false? - never removed one but anyway they don't feel hollow).

 :cheers:

i noticed on my Ap Blaze 10 on the inside - see picture
It is coarse on the surface inside this area, and the camo is very thin or almost not there. Also on the edge of the scale it is so. Not sure if is applied in the same way the two camo patterns.
I checked up on another AP Blaze 10 and it is almost perfect. I have the one on picture as EDC  in my pocket to see the wear resistance, so far so good. back to your question it may be variations from batch to batch i am not sure??
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46243;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 07, 2013, 02:59:22 PM
I see some texture pattern on that gray surface, apparently that may continue the full camo pattern. Could it be that this is what is painted there and not that there is paint peeled off or not painted at all? Especially that you saw the same thing on two different Rangers. Anyway even if paint is indeed completely missing from that area then it looks it was missed from being applied at the factory, not that it was worn out in use.

Ignore it and use the SAK without fear of wearing out the remaining scale paint?  :) What I would do.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 07, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
i noticed on my Ap Blaze 10 on the inside - see picture
It is coarse on the surface inside this area, and the camo is very thin or almost not there. Also on the edge of the scale it is so. Not sure if is applied in the same way the two camo patterns.
I checked up on another AP Blaze 10 and it is almost perfect. I have the one on picture as EDC  in my pocket to see the wear resistance, so far so good. back to your question it may be variations from batch to batch i am not sure??

This blaze shows it even more clear. So probably they apply that hard coating in the factory primarily on the exterior scale sides and the interior gets only some and not always full coating spray.

I'm lucky then - my little blaze is 100% purrfect all around. The coating on the visible parts of the scale backsides looks exactly the same as on the front - very well done.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 07, 2013, 11:58:02 PM
  Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?

  Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 08, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
  Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?

  Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.

good question, i also wonder alittle on this. It was mentioned by SwissBianco some time ago on the EvoWood  - scales are attached by a double sided 3m tape. This to avoid the problem with glue and so on.
Must be a really strong tape if so :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 08, 2013, 08:58:05 PM
  Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?

  Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.

good question, i also wonder alittle on this. It was mentioned by SwissBianco some time ago on the EvoWood  - scales are attached by a double sided 3m tape. This to avoid the problem with glue and so on.
Must be a really strong tape if so :tu:

If it's the 3M VHB tape, then yes, very strong tape.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 09, 2013, 02:16:12 AM
  Does anyone know how the walnut wood scales are attached to the EvoWood & RangerWood knives?

  Or pictures of what the scales & liners looked like when taken apart? Merely curious, and don't want anyone taking theirs apart. The S557 looks like it was inset into the wood by half a liner's thickness. Am guessing the walnut wood scales were epoxied near full surface to surface.

good question, i also wonder alittle on this. It was mentioned by SwissBianco some time ago on the EvoWood  - scales are attached by a double sided 3m tape. This to avoid the problem with glue and so on.
Must be a really strong tape if so :tu:

If it's the 3M VHB tape, then yes, very strong tape.
That's interesting, I don't think I had heard that these were using, or possibly using, 3M tape.  I do really like Evowood although I'm not a fan of the other 85mm evo scales, and so so on it for the 130mm line as they make the knives so big... but they are big knives and they do allow for a good grip and the larger knives.  I Really like the pushbutton lock release.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 09, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
  Wonder if it is worth trying to get a Wenger Ranger? Are they overly big? Anyone have a photo of one in their had so as to get a visual? Are they about the size of a Leatherman Wave?

   Don't think will go for the walnut handles though, since they are not riveted on or held in a secure fashion. Wouldn't want the tape to come apart if I put it in the car's cubby.

    Then to decide if worth getting a new one, or a user from eBay or something.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2013, 02:02:49 PM
  Wonder if it is worth trying to get a Wenger Ranger? Are they overly big? Anyone have a photo of one in their had so as to get a visual? Are they about the size of a Leatherman Wave?

   Don't think will go for the walnut handles though, since they are not riveted on or held in a secure fashion. Wouldn't want the tape to come apart if I put it in the car's cubby.

    Then to decide if worth getting a new one, or a user from eBay or something.

here is the RangerGrip model Handyman 90.822 - this is on the to thick side, or the handle to is to bulky, still you get large functions that is very handy. The hex/bit opening is what makes it much extra , besides the medium use plier one get a multitude of use. I took some pictures, some of the tools/bits on the table is to much for normal use. Just examples on how one can do in an emergency. Or just if one what to custom build a pack with bits. I did not picture the two bits that follow the tool in the sheath.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2013, 02:04:17 PM

there must be many more combinations and handy gadgets to be used in the hex opening...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
i can just aswell picture the sheath. These are for me a better generation of sheaths and good.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46390;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 09, 2013, 05:04:24 PM
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor.  Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang. 

Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate.  of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK.  I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.

The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.

Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.

Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2013, 05:30:52 PM
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor.  Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang. 

Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate.  of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK.  I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.

The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.

Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.

Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.

this is good news!
could you take some fast pics of this catalogue(Wenger) and post?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on March 09, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
  Wonder if it is worth trying to get a Wenger Ranger? Are they overly big? Anyone have a photo of one in their had so as to get a visual? Are they about the size of a Leatherman Wave?

   Don't think will go for the walnut handles though, since they are not riveted on or held in a secure fashion. Wouldn't want the tape to come apart if I put it in the car's cubby.

    Then to decide if worth getting a new one, or a user from eBay or something.

here is the RangerGrip model Handyman 90.822 - this is on the to thick side, or the handle to is to bulky, still you get large functions that is very handy. The hex/bit opening is what makes it much extra , besides the medium use plier one get a multitude of use. I took some pictures, some of the tools/bits on the table is to much for normal use. Just examples on how one can do in an emergency. Or just if one what to custom build a pack with bits. I did not picture the two bits that follow the tool in the sheath.

I'd agree with Northman, the RangerGrip 90 is too thick, but it's all the fault of the "ergonomic" scales  ::)

Across the widest part of the scales the tool is 34mm (nearly 1.3/8"), but inside the scales the width of the tool layers is 19mm (3/4"). This puts the scale thickness at nearly half the thickness of the entire tool! If we compare this to the Ranger 14 which has the same number of tool layers, although with the shears which are much slimmer than the RG90's plers, the overall thickness is just under 26mm (1"), and the thickness inside the scales is 17mm (11/16"). The Ranger 14's scales only adds 9mm to the tool thickness but the RangerGrip 90's scales adds 15mm.

If the RG90 had the old scales, it would be about 1/4" slimmer !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2013, 07:34:18 PM
i really like the evolution alot, best on the 85mm(big fan). For comfort it is 85mm Evolution and EvoGrip that works best for me. Evolution 16 and EvoGrip S17 is really comfortable and safe. Maybe the S Security lock "button" would be the only small part that could be in the way sometimes. The 85mm in these sizes up to EvoGrip S17 is absolute best. By this i mean comfort safety and ergonomics for all the functions.
The EvoGrip works on wider models and up to S557. It is ok and the grip material or rubber inlay works well. Here i feel the Grip S557 is best.

On the 130mm Rangers. Here i would say up to Rangergrip 79.821 (standard functions + a wood saw) It is well and comfortable, safe and ergonomic. -Not so ergonomic as the 85mm. The RangerGrip 79.821 worked very well in both dry and wet conditions. Every function could be used, i got no blisters or cuts or hurt in the hand. The ergonomics on 130mm will not work well in a thicker model.

The RangerWood is so far the absolute best i have had in hand.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 09, 2013, 07:41:55 PM
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor.  Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang. 

Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate.  of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK.  I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.

The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.

Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.

Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.

That catalog sounds very interesting. Only seen one 'Sailfish', with no name; and never heard of an 'Eagle'. Looking forward to seeing it.

The old Aitors were almost clones of Victorinox. Some of them even had the long manicure blade. One minor difference was their t&t, which were more like Wengers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 10, 2013, 05:07:24 AM
....
this is good news!
could you take some fast pics of this catalogue(Wenger) and post?

Well I'm so far behind on SAK pictures I try not to waste my time with quick pics.... because I might as well be spending the time doing not so quick pics or eating ice cream. 

The good news is I scanned the 7 pages processed them and sized them for the Wiki... go take a look some interesting stuff in these small number of pages.

....

Not shown on the Wiki but the next 2 pages of the catalog showed a number of Swiss Fillet/Fishing knives.  They use the name Swissflex to describe the flexible blades (available with different flexibility), but the handles are molded colored similair to current Swibo knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 10, 2013, 09:36:34 AM
....
this is good news!
could you take some fast pics of this catalogue(Wenger) and post?

Well I'm so far behind on SAK pictures I try not to waste my time with quick pics.... because I might as well be spending the time doing not so quick pics or eating ice cream. 

The good news is I scanned the 7 pages processed them and sized them for the Wiki... go take a look some interesting stuff in these small number of pages.

....

Not shown on the Wiki but the next 2 pages of the catalog showed a number of Swiss Fillet/Fishing knives.  They use the name Swissflex to describe the flexible blades (available with different flexibility), but the handles are molded colored similair to current Swibo knives.

yes :tu:
interesting you mentioned the SwissFlex and flexible knives. Just the other day i checked out two of the Swibo fillet knives - i would say very good for fish work. They had very thin and flexible blades. The handle was alittle different from the one i did show here. Very nice handle aswell.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 10, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
by the way - discussing comfort and ergonomic. I got medium size hands so it may vary for people. However this Evolution S111 is not talked so much about. Maybe a more minimalistic type - it got interesting tools. One lockblade, small blade, can opener, cap opener with flat screwdriver. It also got awl and Phillips screwdriver.

I hear talk about whittling, for less experienced people whittling without lockblade is more demanding. So the lock is helpful. I have also used this for fishing gear.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46416;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 11, 2013, 08:19:37 AM
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery?  A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model.  I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery. 

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on March 11, 2013, 11:34:50 AM
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery?  A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model.  I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.

I would suspect that they were either only assembled by Frost or just sold by them.

I do not see the point of them actually making them.

Right?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stax on March 11, 2013, 02:40:39 PM
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery?  A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model.  I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.

Nice find
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 13, 2013, 03:00:49 AM
Does anyone know more about Wenger's collaboration with Frost Cutlery?  A few of these showed up on ebay recently, I only grabbed the Traveler model.  I'm not sure if I'll carefully slice the package open, but I was surprised to see these manufactored for Frost Cutlery.

I would suspect that they were either only assembled by Frost or just sold by them.

I do not see the point of them actually making them.

Right?
Right; I'm thinking they were probably completely made in Switzerland and just sold by Frost, not too different than the Buck deal.  I am interested if it would have any Frost stamp or engraving on it, but have not wanted to open the package just yet. 

By the way this knife is from 1995.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 13, 2013, 03:13:04 AM
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 08:47:58 AM
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?

i am not sure?

I took a picture of the old style and the more new style compass. Sadly the old is broken, still i like it alot for history.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46589;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 09:31:18 AM


I took a picture of the old style and the more new style compass. Sadly the old is broken, still i like it alot for history.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46589;image)

I basically saw four different compass variations:
1) very old style, with metal border;
2) old style (as seen in the 1995 European catalog);
3) old style similar to the one above but with a orange plastic "ring" on the border;
4) newer style (like pictured above on the right).
A local shop here has still few of them, which were sold as replacement.
Is your compass broken? Or it is just not attached to the ruler?
If it was the compass, I think I should be able to find you a replacement.
Edit: found a picture of the above 1) compass from Stressmaster (scroll down to almost the end of the page)
https://plus.google.com/photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977#photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977/5628595530229768242
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 01:46:49 PM


I took a picture of the old style and the more new style compass. Sadly the old is broken, still i like it alot for history.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46589;image)

I basically saw four different compass variations:
1) very old style, with metal border;
2) old style (as seen in the 1995 European catalog);
3) old style similar to the one above but with a orange plastic "ring" on the border;
4) newer style (like pictured above on the right).
A local shop here has still few of them, which were sold as replacement.
Is your compass broken? Or it is just not attached to the ruler?
If it was the compass, I think I should be able to find you a replacement.
Edit: found a picture of the above 1) compass from Stressmaster (scroll down to almost the end of the page)
https://plus.google.com/photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977#photos/113972130751178685410/albums/5184824931801034977/5628595530229768242

hi
thanks for info, the right model on my picture is the older of the two. Atleast i think so - no wheel turning.
I can see it got liquid in it. It has kind of jumped out of the place.
The knife is one i really like :) Never been used, maybe i have showed it before. I estimate it to be a knife 1985-1990 - not 100% sure. The compass seems original.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46611;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 01:52:19 PM

i believe the model is the Matterhorn plus :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
hi
thanks for info, the right model on my picture is the older of the two. Atleast i think so - no wheel turning.
I can see it got liquid in it. It has kind of jumped out of the place.
The knife is one i really like :) Never been used, maybe i have showed it before. I estimate it to be a knife 1985-1990 - not 100% sure. The compass seems original.



Hi,
the liquid is normal...it is supposed to be there.
Unfortunately the replacements I saw where for the model on the left of your picture.... will see if I find the correct compass for you
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 02:20:26 PM
Recently found few interesting Wenger's.
The first one is not a mod!
His official name is EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300) and was made for (and only sold in) the Czech Republic.
Interesting is, as you see, the small gutting blade, similar (or is the same?) to the one found in the Victorinox Hunter.
I don't remember Wenger using this tool in any other knife.
You can also see that inside the liners was put a metal circular "part" (sorry I'm not able to describe it in english) for the gutting blade to rest.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
label from previous post
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
An additional interesting knife.
I think this is the smallest model equipped with the ceramic sharpener.
It is model 1 03 05 and has no back tools.
The 1995 catalog shows this model (without the flying lure) under the Pecheur section
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2395&scalesize=o
Don't know why the nail file was not implemented...there seems to be space for it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 02:27:20 PM
The last is model 1 38 61.
Nothing special, but you don't see them very often.
It is basically a "Deer" without he "Deer" emblem on the front scale.
Can be seen on the catalog under the "Securitè/2" section.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2386&scalesize=o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 02:49:47 PM

nice finds!  ;)i like them

about the compass liquid: - yes i know it is supposed to be there  :) not sure it is well to drink, still i have heard about compasses suddenly being out of liquids :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 03:04:31 PM
Recently found few interesting Wenger's.
The first one is not a mod!
His official name is EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300) and was made for (and only sold in) the Czech Republic.
Interesting is, as you see, the small gutting blade, similar (or is the same?) to the one found in the Victorinox Hunter.
I don't remember Wenger using this tool in any other knife.
You can also see that inside the liners was put a metal circular "part" (sorry I'm not able to describe it in english) for the gutting blade to rest.

the metal part protecting the rivit is interesting :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 03:24:41 PM


about the compass liquid: - yes i know it is supposed to be there  :) not sure it is well to drink, still i have heard about compasses suddenly being out of liquids :think:

Not sure either..... :D
I honestly consider this tool the worst one ever designed by Wenger.... it takes the space for two/three layers and the compass is even not very precise.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 13, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
yes the compass could be better and it takes space. Anyhow it will be helpful if needed and give a basic direction. it is more in the Gadget feel for me
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 13, 2013, 06:14:53 PM
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?
Their patent is dated 1975 and a European patent is good for 20 years so I figure it expired in 1994.
Wenger used this design beginning 1973 - companies often get the product on the market before the patent process is complete.  When the 17 years of a US patent expired the scissors said EP Patent (European Patent) for a while. This also appeared on Wenger's self-locking screwdrivers.
Young's SAK Owner's Manual has a good chronology for both Victorinox and Wenger tool development.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 13, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
Btw, does anyone know when the Wenger scissors patent ran out? Was it possibly '96?
Their patent is dated 1975 and a European patent is good for 20 years so I figure it expired in 1994.
Wenger used this design beginning 1973 - companies often get the product on the market before the patent process is complete.  When the 17 years of a US patent expired the scissors said EP Patent (European Patent) for a while. This also appeared on Wenger's self-locking screwdrivers.
Young's SAK Owner's Manual has a good chronology for both Victorinox and Wenger tool development.

Thank you. :salute: This confirms my suspicion about when and why one other manufacturer started using their design.  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2013, 07:17:46 PM
EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300) and was made for (and only sold in) the Czech Republic.
Small edit: while I'm pretty much sure about the Czech R. market, I can't confirm it at 100%.
Should someone have any additional information about this knife please post here!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 13, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
Carlo,

Some great finds. Never seen that EvoHunter before.  :tu:

I have two name for the 1.03.05 - Fisherman's Sharpener (possibly a dealer's name) and Angler (again).

The three references to Deer that I have are all numbered 16994, while the plain unnamed version is 1 38 61. It may be the Deer with logo was a US only item, while the plain version was for Europe.

The 1979 catalog that ICFT recently downloaded has a Deer with different logo and number ( 16956 ) and no lock.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 13, 2013, 11:00:54 PM
Wow very nice finds. Love the EvoHunter 505 (catalog 1 505 59 300), it looks like they used a Victorinox blade from their 111mm hunter.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 09:37:02 AM
yes very nice indeed :tu:

i took forward the Matterhorn plus again, i believe it is the correct name. Have in mind  that these are observations.
The older one i estimate to be 1985-1988/90 based on my knowledge. The newer around 1990-1994.
I took some pictures showing the interesting changes/variations on them, we have some info from before that did mention the compass or orienting tool is from around 1986. The functions i will show here is some of the other since its shown already :) The older got the patented locking on the flat screwdriver aswell as the new.
Also interesting is the backside tang stamp : 3 blade W that i found to be from around 1988, again just observations. The Phillips on the old is without the locking.. enjoy
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 09:38:17 AM

i will do some more research later on
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
by the way, not sure i have mentioned this before?
We discussed before the scales on the EvoWood and the special 3M tape.

I had in 2010 a question to Wenger on the silver embossed icons - Backpacker , Windjammer and many more. I soon got a reply on this:
- It was a marking tape, and we have stopped marking this knives with tape in the 80's. Afterwards, we have marked them with a normal ink pad printing in silver
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 14, 2013, 01:59:26 PM
Very nice comparison shots North Man!!!!!
You were right and I apologize for my error about the compass.
I just checked myself with an old Matterhorn plus I have (which has, apart from some unusual blue scales, the main blade without the logo, fishscaler without the seying eye etc...) and it has indeed the black compass.
So that one was older.
------------------------
I'm attaching few shots that I didn't have time to upload yesterday.
They are from model 1 23 13 that was mentioned in the "Major/Oberst" topic
Basically it has the same configuration as model 1 23 03 (listed as "Major" in the wiki) but with the small blade instead of nail file
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2373&scalesize=0
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 02:20:30 PM
Very nice comparison shots North Man!!!!!
You were right and I apologize for my error about the compass.
I just checked myself with an old Matterhorn plus I have (which has, apart from some unusual blue scales, the main blade without the logo, fishscaler without the seying eye etc...) and it has indeed the black compass.
So that one was older.
------------------------
I'm attaching few shots that I didn't have time to upload yesterday.
They are from model 1 23 13 that was mentioned in the "Major/Oberst" topic
Basically it has the same configuration as model 1 23 03 (listed as "Major" in the wiki) but with the small blade instead of nail file
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=97&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2373&scalesize=0

you are welcome :) thanks for info

nice find!
So we can say 1 23 03 with nailfile and 1 23 13 with small blade

Wenger got variations everywhere
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46714;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 14, 2013, 03:23:19 PM
UPDATE ON THE EVOHUNTER 505

Since I wanted to investigate a little more about the markets were this knife was sold, I sent an email to Wenger.
As usual, after few hours I got an answer, written in perfect italian by the Wenger Sales Assistant.
Here is part of the email, transated by me:

"Congratulations for this rare acquisition.
In fact, of that knife were produced only 500 pieces.
Initially, the knife was produced for the Czech Republic (300 units). Then, 200 additional units were produced, which were sold in different countries: Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Hong Kong and Venezuela
."

I was suspecting Italy, as I saw the cover picture of an italian blade magazine mentioning the knife (see attachment).
I have back-ordered the magazine...once received I will write a small article about this interesting knife.
So I was not completely wrong about the sale in the Czech Republic. My knife was made in 2009 (as indicated by the box label) so, at the time, the knife was probably made only for that market.
The italian magazine is from January 2012, so probably around the time the knife was available here and possibly in the other markets mentioned in the email.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 03:44:56 PM

new to me :tu:
excellent knife and excellent research Basilio!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 14, 2013, 04:26:00 PM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46714;image)

Interesting picture....reminds me Michelangelo ;)

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1597/95025529.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/95025529.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 05:02:08 PM

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 14, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
I just got back from the post office and in the mail was an older 1979 Wenger Catalog from US distributor.  Mostly pictures and/or names, but on the sportsman series with all the different imprints, like we were discussing a few pages back, I see a Sailfish and Eagle, which don't show up often, and of course the Mustang. 

Interesting it lists the main name for the 'Pointer' correctly as the Setter, with 'Pointer' as an alternate.  of particular note is that it states that it is the worlds largest SAK.  I guess I need one of those in my collection one day.

The catalog also seems to confirm what we had already determined; it states that Wenger 'were the first Swiss Army Knives with a lifetime warranty'.

Well I won't spoil all the fun, but it's a catalog from a distributor so it only has a few pages for Wenger, but it helps date a couple knives.

Sidenote: The catalog is shows quite a few different series made by Aitor which are very close copies of some of the swiss knives, they are much closer that those that they offer today.

Hi
Once again - excellent catalogue

Not sure i have mentioned before, this catalogue is 1979. Just to remind about my information some time ago, that the embossed icons is older than 1979. Many know this. I did much research before on them.
In backpacker December 1977 it is mentioned :
Presenting two new series - Personalized and Sportsman presentation with characters on the scales to more easy identify with your interests.

I do not like to guess but i have a feeling that the numbers of characters grew? And the 1979 show more embossed models. I did suspect that the Skier from 1975 had the embossed icon, i can not say for sure yet?
Very glad about the new wiki catalogue!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 15, 2013, 02:43:28 AM
A Violet Ranger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 15, 2013, 04:55:56 AM
World Scouting went to that ugly purple color a few years back for various PC reasons. Most national Scouting programs stayed with red, with the occasional blue, green or black.

Swiss (top), Hungarian, Irish, Dutch, British, Canadian, Australian.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 15, 2013, 01:30:55 PM

nice collection :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 15, 2013, 01:34:13 PM
another universal wrench picture. All different with minor or larger difference.
-random order

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=46821;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 15, 2013, 02:00:01 PM
World Scouting went to that ugly purple color a few years back for various PC reasons.

PC reasons? Can you elaborate for us non connoisseurs a bit?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg/200px-World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg.png)

Interesting about purple being perceived as ugly (personal taste, the color of this SAK does not appear ugly to me).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple

"In the ancient world, purple was the color worn by Roman Emperors and magistrates, and later by Roman Catholic bishops. Since that time, purple has been commonly associated with royalty and piety."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on March 15, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
I happen to like purple...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 15, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
World Scouting went to that ugly purple color a few years back for various PC reasons.

PC reasons? Can you elaborate for us non connoisseurs a bit?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg/200px-World_Scout_Emblem_inverse.svg.png)

Interesting about purple being perceived as ugly (personal taste, the color of this SAK does not appear ugly to me).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple

"In the ancient world, purple was the color worn by Roman Emperors and magistrates, and later by Roman Catholic bishops. Since that time, purple has been commonly associated with royalty and piety."

Hi Marius,
My understanding is they went with a color not used by any country or group in order not to offend anyone. Most countries continue to get along just fine with the traditional Swiss Army red. Tastes obviously differ; I think its ugly. My personal feeling is they should have gone with international orange or florescent yellow. No political connotations, and makes the knife easy to find if dropped in the weeds.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on March 15, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
I happen to like purple...

Me too, combined with Toxic Green  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 15, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
I happen to like purple...

Me too, combined with Toxic Green  :D

Back in the 1970s there was a pop pyschology test called the Luscher Color Test, that was supposed to provide a quick assessment of peoples' personalities. My two favorite colors were blue and white; the two I hated most were green and purple.  :D

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 15, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
I happen to like purple...

Me too, combined with Toxic Green  :D

Back in the 1970s there was a pop pyschology test called the Luscher Color Test, that was supposed to provide a quick assessment of peoples' personalities. My two favorite colors were blue and white; the two I hated most were green and purple.  :D

 :cheers:

You did not write that you personally do not like purple (which is completely fine), you wrote, quote: "that ugly purple color" :D

That test it is still available today.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on March 16, 2013, 07:54:32 AM
I happen to like purple...

Me too, combined with Toxic Green  :D

Back in the 1970s there was a pop pyschology test called the Luscher Color Test, that was supposed to provide a quick assessment of peoples' personalities. My two favorite colors were blue and white; the two I hated most were green and purple.  :D

 :cheers:

I drove a green Kawasaki Z1000R Eddie Lawson Replica, that beast on wheels made me feel like Evil Knievel.
After that a purple Kawasaki ZRX1100 that I crashed as well.  :D
http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/kawasaki-kz1000r-eddie-lawson-replica.aspx

:cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on March 16, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
Finally I got the last knife from Wenger's Swiss Evo serie.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q-TIRJnCxck/UUScUGNhusI/AAAAAAAAGmg/qKnm5atocrQ/s800/EvoSwiss_box.jpg)

More info and pictures at swissknives.info (http://swissknives.info/wenger-swissevo-serie/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 16, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
Man those all look sweet; not just the chocolate one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 16, 2013, 06:46:02 PM

I agree, real eye catchers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 17, 2013, 12:46:33 PM
I noticed on two older Rangers - the 1991 knife got a different cut
Not the best picture still easy to see. On the bottom one you see the more modern and also more developed, by this i mean it is thinner towards the backside. Closer to the tang it is thinner and at the point thicker. The top one does not have this(atleast much less), it is sharp and will cut.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: JAfromMn on March 18, 2013, 12:29:25 AM
Wenger ti 2 (http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/JAfromMn/temporary_zps14e8d858.jpg)

victorinox would never build a knife this ugly or this cool.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: armèe-suisse on March 18, 2013, 02:17:50 AM
Wenger ti 2 (http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/JAfromMn/temporary_zps14e8d858.jpg)

victorinox would never build a knife this ugly or this cool.



Nice pic Joel! :tu:, glad to hear it arrived safe and sound. IMO it's one of the cool looking SAK by Wenger and for its Titanium scales. :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 18, 2013, 03:37:30 PM
"victorinox would never build a knife this ugly or this cool."
Exactly.  We will miss the Wenger je ne sait quoit under the new Vic alignment.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 18, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
I do wish Wengers product development and new ideas will continue separate. This i have doubts, researching both Brands one get a greater understanding of the two philosphies. And the more correct history. The gentleman agreement made an impression, i do understand many can not distinguish the two Brands product. Both got a Swiss product.

It is easy to respect both Brands and i do not know what is best, maybe we will see some fantastic products in the years to come. So far i have not heard so much news, only that 2/3s will be made after 2014 with new stamp.

I like both and they have been very helpful and true with me, still questions can be difficult to get answers for since it is alot of work.

If i should say how i feel - they are very different knives, really can not be called the same,  but two different SAKs
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 20, 2013, 05:28:34 PM


here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 20, 2013, 06:39:36 PM


here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false

Nice find!
Have you seen this article?
http://books.google.it/books?id=QOQDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA209&dq=wenger%20precise&hl=it&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q=wenger%20precise&f=false
It seems to confirm that the orienting tool was introduced on 1986.
Oh, and the Dynasty on the cover is a King Arthur  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on March 20, 2013, 06:59:12 PM


here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false

Nice find!
Have you seen this article?
http://books.google.it/books?id=QOQDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA209&dq=wenger%20precise&hl=it&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q=wenger%20precise&f=false
It seems to confirm that the orienting tool was introduced on 1986.
Oh, and the Dynasty on the cover is a King Arthur  ;)
That is one of the online articles I found that had those dates I mentioned on this (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,14099.0.html) thread about Wengers back in 2009.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 20, 2013, 07:18:20 PM


here is some interesting Wenger fish related knives, with the embossed icons i believe.
Boys life 1977 April :
http://books.google.no/books?id=x-VsTf_TlWQC&pg=PA87&dq=wenger+precise+scouts&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MuJJUZmBEMSPO4aUgdgC&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=wenger%20&f=false



Nice find!
Have you seen this article?
http://books.google.it/books?id=QOQDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA209&dq=wenger%20precise&hl=it&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q=wenger%20precise&f=false
It seems to confirm that the orienting tool was introduced on 1986.
Oh, and the Dynasty on the cover is a King Arthur  ;)

yes i have Basilio, have searched this archive for maybe two years. I searched every article in the news archive, before it was put down. It seems the news archive database for the scanned newspapers caused trouble  :-\ :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 20, 2013, 11:49:50 PM
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 21, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhh
You're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge?  if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 21, 2013, 01:09:31 AM
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhh
You're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge?  if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.

Thanks, appreciate it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 21, 2013, 01:58:39 AM
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhh
You're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge?  if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.

Thanks, appreciate it.
Sent  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 21, 2013, 02:20:42 AM
Has anyone figured out how to print out that article? I'm once again defeated by modern technology. :ahhh
You're interested in the 4 pages from PM 1986, The Cutting Edge?  if so I can send them to you as good images. you'll have to handle the printing.

Thanks, appreciate it.
Sent  :cheers:

Got it.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 21, 2013, 03:16:30 AM
Here's a Wenger Everest for the Geneva Fire and Rescue Department.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 21, 2013, 03:26:03 PM
An interesting Cutting Edge article but many incorrectnesses, not least of which is "Karl Elsner".   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 21, 2013, 05:15:14 PM
 
Yes, there are some mistakes here. Still interesting :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 21, 2013, 05:35:19 PM

PS have i posted this link before?

http://books.google.no/books?id=i-_nR43-FIUC&pg=RA1-PA133&dq=wenger+steel+knife&hl=no&sa=X&ei=UTZLUai2IMXesgbBxICgAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=wenger%20steel%20knife&f=false
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 21, 2013, 11:14:26 PM

PS have i posted this link before?

http://books.google.no/books?id=i-_nR43-FIUC&pg=RA1-PA133&dq=wenger+steel+knife&hl=no&sa=X&ei=UTZLUai2IMXesgbBxICgAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=wenger%20steel%20knife&f=false
for the advert?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 22, 2013, 12:01:44 AM
I have a nice old new Wenger with a PIC tag -- I see from the old ad that PIC stands for Precise International Corporation, the Wenger US importer for many years.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 22, 2013, 02:29:41 AM
Has anyone heard any more about the Wenger RealTree 'Snow' knives? They're supposed to be out now. Hope they didn't get canceled in Wenger's subsumption into Victorinox.

http://www.wengerna.com/realtree-ap-snow-50-16850
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 22, 2013, 09:34:56 AM
Has anyone heard any more about the Wenger RealTree 'Snow' knives? They're supposed to be out now. Hope they didn't get canceled in Wenger's subsumption into Victorinox.

http://www.wengerna.com/realtree-ap-snow-50-16850

Was wondering myself.
I searched a little but at the moment the new snow camo appears only on the Wenger USA website
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 09:59:57 AM

PS have i posted this link before?

http://books.google.no/books?id=i-_nR43-FIUC&pg=RA1-PA133&dq=wenger+steel+knife&hl=no&sa=X&ei=UTZLUai2IMXesgbBxICgAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=wenger%20steel%20knife&f=false
for the advert?

yes for the advert

It is interesting to see, since it is just a drawing sort advert. If one see the scanned magazines during 1972 and up. If one see the Backpacker magazine in the 1976-1980. There are alot of articles and nice pictures on the Wenger knives. Precise and Wenger really put on some show here. I have mentioned rather much on this period, in example the much text and info i had before. Still it is a nice piece  of history.
I found some information on the Backpacker magazine 1973 and up - how the backpacking boom happened. Interesting is the late 70s with the embossed models and the new categories we discussed(embossed models). It is a category started from the 1975 approx(not sure yet)?

Also interesting is the Backpacker name on the Wenger knives  :) In the Backpacker magazine :) maybe a coincidence.
Like you know camping/backpacking waves happened in different waves around the world, at different times. Still it is my understanding that the Backpacker magazine got its fame in the 70s because of the wave. Not because of knives but the waves.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 10:11:44 AM
here it is mentioned in 1979 - how the Backpacker knives developed for the Americans
http://books.google.no/books?id=buADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=wenger+backpacker+developed&hl=no&sa=X&ei=jR9MUca_CemE4ATag4HoBQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=backpacker&f=false

I however careful with making this a 100% info, that these knives was just developed for this.

PS. It seems the 70s is at a time where Wenger is going more heavy into the American marked.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 22, 2013, 10:56:06 AM
here it is mentioned in 1979 - how the Backpacker knives developed for the Americans
http://books.google.no/books?id=buADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=wenger+backpacker+developed&hl=no&sa=X&ei=jR9MUca_CemE4ATag4HoBQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=backpacker&f=false

I however careful with making this a 100% info, that these knives was just developed for this.

PS. It seems the 70s is at a time where Wenger is going more heavy into the American marked.

  Interesting. Wonder why I has never seen a SAK in my 70's, or even 80's. Seen a Leatherman in a Marlboro catalog that my parents had gotten. Later found a palm-pinching Gerber. Don't recall what era I ever saw a SAK...  :think:

  Same ugly awl too. Don't know how anyone could use that type of awl stand-alone. Say, where does one find them short-tailed chain rings? Only seen photos of them on various SAK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
here it is mentioned in 1979 - how the Backpacker knives developed for the Americans
http://books.google.no/books?id=buADAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA2&dq=wenger+backpacker+developed&hl=no&sa=X&ei=jR9MUca_CemE4ATag4HoBQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=backpacker&f=false

I however careful with making this a 100% info, that these knives was just developed for this.

PS. It seems the 70s is at a time where Wenger is going more heavy into the American marked.

  Interesting. Wonder why I has never seen a SAK in my 70's, or even 80's. Seen a Leatherman in a Marlboro catalog that my parents had gotten. Later found a palm-pinching Gerber. Don't recall what era I ever saw a SAK...  :think:

  Same ugly awl too. Don't know how anyone could use that type of awl stand-alone. Say, where does one find them short-tailed chain rings? Only seen photos of them on various SAK.

Just stop me if i am raving on :)

In the 70 one also got Boys life mag. From 1980-1990 one see more magazines with articles/pictures. No doubt the adverts can vary, if just a black and white picture or bad scan. Some looks like a drawing aswell(70s)

We must not forget that Wenger got popular in Japan, with a outdoor wave 1970 and up(hopefully there are some info here for me?)

It was to bad they shut down the scanned newspaper project, atleast all the good stuff is gone. I read a every article i could find. It was a great way to check magazines and newspapers up against eachother.
Combination with looking in catalogues-magazines-newspapers-knives-collectors-pictures-other research-contact with factory. This way i could find or learn more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 11:06:48 AM

It was in this kind of research i learned more on the fashion waves aswell. How the smaller knives with new colors was developed for woman and fashion industry, again just time windows and interesting to know about. we may never know for sure :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 22, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
Say, where does one find them short-tailed chain rings? Only seen photos of them on various SAK.

Wenger used them for older models.
I did try to search for them, but it seems that they were not an official replacement part (at least, I was not able to find them as replacement through shops)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 22, 2013, 11:47:24 AM

Just stop me if i am raving on :)


Please don't stop!
You made a very good research during these years  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on March 22, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
  Lot of reading material in libraries went on microfiche, but where it went from there I wouldn't know. Would of figured they would of gotten scanned and put in some archive format?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 02:07:30 PM


I am sure many newspapers must be scanned. The Google one had a whole database of american newspapers. Could be possible to search individual papers aswell, maybe one would need to pay or get permits.

However today we read about Wenger markeds, according to a paper in 1988 wenger had 10% of its marked in the USA. In 1992 35% this is impressive. The counter part say the figures is to high, anyhow well done.

And interesting: In 1989 it was talk on new knives and more colors - called pastells (must be the 65mm)
Then in 1990 there was talk on on the knives for woman. In the newspapers i often found that there was a competition about markeds in America, again just time windows. In 1991 The bulletin 14th March mention the Pastells. Precise mention by these to hit the woman or female marked. sales went noticeably up. It was not cheap, it did cost much to get new colors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 02:49:56 PM


Also some info here i have been into:
in 2003 Victorinox takes over Wenger NA, also the the Swiss Army Fragrances,



I got information that Victorinox and Wenger have been in competition on the knives, this during from 2005-2010/12. It seems it was a surprice for many this, including me. Maybe i had gotten som impulses that something was going on. I had the impression that Wenger did well and had/have been very innovative. And i did wonder if it would be a self business again, atleast in knives.
It is today already news that the small knives will be legal in the air, strange this since we know Wenger have seen much trouble in history with the economy. So it is worth having in mind, after the tragic Sep 11 Wenger could not recover. Talk about outside countries wanting to buy the company. Victorinox did a great move to keep it in Swiss hand, and also other reasons.

Sadly maybe we would have seen Wenger products getting a boom again, this because if air legal.
I do not want to get in trouble but i got information some time ago. Victorinox and its contract with NATO We own this marked, hence wenger was out. They do not have permits selling to Nato.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
Again remember my information as time Window and talk points,.The Nato info is regarding knives.

Information suggest that Victorinox and Wenger watches are made side by side in the Porrentruy factory.
I wish not to take sides since i love both Brands. Still i remember when Peter Hug mentioned - we are going back to our roots. Or where we belong, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-06/swiss-army-knives-shift-focus-to-boardroom-from-battlefield.html

No more Wenger Classic knives, these are maybe part of the knives people would not distinguish.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 22, 2013, 06:17:01 PM


Also some info here i have been into:
in 2003 Victorinox takes over Wenger NA, also the the Swiss Army Fragrances,
...

I think you mean 2013 here right?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 06:27:07 PM

it was mentioned in a Victorinox Swiss army watches catalogue, premium selection 2009-2010


2003
-Victorinox takes over the US-american company Wenger NA, including the fragrance label "Swiss Army Fragrance"

By this it should mean if coorect that Vic took over this before the takeover in 2005 on the Swiss Based Wenger.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 06:38:52 PM
also 2005

- Victorinox takes over the traditional Swiss cutlery and watch manufacturer Wenger SA in Delemont in the Swiss Jura.

2006

- Victorinox Swiss Army moves to its new watch production facility in Porrentruy, in the Swiss Jura, to meet the increasing demand and to ensure high-quality timepieces.

2007

-Victorinox sets up Victorinox Swiss Army Fragrance AG based at its head office. The former Wenger fragrance line is repositioned in the marked and is branded with Victorinox emblem.


some of my research:
2009 wenger starts a global reposition campaign
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 22, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
OK that is correct.  Victorinox did take control of Wenger NA in 2003. I see what you were saying.

Since you seem to be studding there watches also do you know anything about Swiss Military line by private label maker Chrono? Seems like Wenger and Chrono both sell the "SWISS MILITARY" brand, but I wnder if these are really made by Chrono and not in their other factory?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 22, 2013, 07:02:16 PM
Hi

Pm sent

about the watches itself i have little info, there are differences in them. Both got high quality, i can not say for sure on your question.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 22, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
Growing up in the US Midwest in the 1950s and 1960s I never saw a SAK. Don't believe they were carried by Herter's, the Cabela's of the period. First encountered them in the mid-1960s when my family moved to Boulder. Some of the high-end mountaineering shops were carrying them. They cost 5-10 times as much as the Schrades and K-Bars I was buying at the local hardware store, so out of my price range. It was the early 1970s when they starred showing up in chain discount stores at an affordable price.  That was about the same time Wenger dropped the old 'dog-leg' can opener, and started broadening their product line.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 23, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
Any one know of a name or model number for a Nomad configuration with a Nail-File rather than the Small blade?  I searched and saw some time back someone asked about this configuration, but their knife didn't have a locking blade as the Nomad.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 23, 2013, 05:04:01 PM
Wenger 1967 Professional Series.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47213;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 23, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
Any one know of a name or model number for a Nomad configuration with a Nail-File rather than the Small blade?  I searched and saw some time back someone asked about this configuration, but their knife didn't have a locking blade as the Nomad.

I think it was me asking about that combination but I haven't seen another one like it since. Have you found one? Any pictures?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 24, 2013, 03:32:22 AM
Any one know of a name or model number for a Nomad configuration with a Nail-File rather than the Small blade?  I searched and saw some time back someone asked about this configuration, but their knife didn't have a locking blade as the Nomad.

I think it was me asking about that combination but I haven't seen another one like it since. Have you found one? Any pictures?

L.L. Bean had a locking Nomad with nail file. The picture I have shows their name on the handle, but no info on model name or number.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 24, 2013, 09:12:34 AM

L.L. Bean had a locking Nomad with nail file. The picture I have shows their name on the handle, but no info on model name or number.

Yes, have the same knife myself (unfortunately it is not a mint model)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 24, 2013, 10:07:29 AM


I like it, really nice   :tu:

LL Bean is a big name with Wenger knives. Alot of history there.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 24, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
Here is two important Villmarksliv magazines. In number 10 2011 there was a big test of multitools. Different Brands, good test.

Wenger did really well and MikeHorn got top score, the RangerGrip 74.821.X did also very well.

In Villmarksliv number 7 2012 the RangerGrip 90 was tested, very well scores. On the thicker side mentioned.

The number 10 2011 was also mentioned at Wenger.ch

Then i got a nice poster of the Wenger Mike Horn with Villmarksliv "test"
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 24, 2013, 02:01:41 PM

L.L. Bean had a locking Nomad with nail file. The picture I have shows their name on the handle, but no info on model name or number.

Yes, have the same knife myself (unfortunately it is not a mint model)

Yes, the one I asked about was also made for/sold by L.L. Bean. It was in rough shape but you can still read part of the Bean on the scales. No lock on that one.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,38962.msg625039.html#msg625039
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 24, 2013, 11:08:48 PM
L.L. Bean has done a lot with both Victorinox and Wenger. To the best of my knowledge, all the Vics are standard models. Some of the Wengers are standard models, but many are specials for Bean.

(Minor error, stuck the Wenger Soldier in with the Vics)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 25, 2013, 08:47:26 AM

nice collection :tu:
Title: Snowboard
Post by: basilio on March 26, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
Moving some knives around the house and took some pictures.
Here is my set of the Snowboard themed Wenger.
On the left, top to bottom, Shredder/Swissrider black and Shredder Yellow (unknown catalog number).
On the right, top to bottom, 1 40 03 02 (unknown US catalog number, if it was ever imported) and "Snowboard".
I'm not aware of any others models, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 26, 2013, 05:38:05 PM

cool :tu:
Title: Re: Snowboard
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 26, 2013, 11:21:41 PM
Moving some knives around the house and took some pictures.
Here is my set of the Snowboard themed Wenger.
On the left, top to bottom, Shredder/Swissrider black and Shredder Yellow (unknown catalog number).
On the right, top to bottom, 1 40 03 02 (unknown US catalog number, if it was ever imported) and "Snowboard".
I'm not aware of any others models, but I'm not sure.

The yellow Shredder was apparently done for some mail-order gift company (don't remember who). Their number for it is 123295.

The top right one was sold in the US as 'Snowboarder' (# 16954) and in Europe as 'SwissRider'.

The small red 'Snowboard' was also sold as 'Snowboarder', though that may be a dealer's name. (# 17929)

Nice set!
Title: Re: Snowboard
Post by: basilio on March 26, 2013, 11:27:50 PM

The yellow Shredder was apparently done for some mail-order gift company (don't remember who). Their number for it is 123295.

The top right one was sold in the US as 'Snowboarder' (# 16954) and in Europe as 'SwissRider'.

The small red 'Snowboard' was also sold as 'Snowboarder', though that may be a dealer's name. (# 17929)

Nice set!

Thanks for the informations!
I would say that the model with the keychain is the more elusive one, haven't seen many of them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 26, 2013, 11:38:16 PM
Maybe the yellow ones are more common in Europe, but they are rare here in the US. Outside of the one I got from the mail-order company, I only recall a few showing up on ebay. Jazzbass may have more data.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 27, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Maybe the yellow ones are more common in Europe, but they are rare here in the US. Outside of the one I got from the mail-order company, I only recall a few showing up on ebay. Jazzbass may have more data.

Karl,
I personally never saw the yellow shredder for sale here (which doesn't mean anything).
In fact I bought mine from ebay USA some time ago, thinking it was an US only version.
On the other hand, I don't recall ever seeing the model with the keychain for sale.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 27, 2013, 10:32:42 PM
Maybe the yellow ones are more common in Europe, but they are rare here in the US. Outside of the one I got from the mail-order company, I only recall a few showing up on ebay. Jazzbass may have more data.

Karl,
I personally never saw the yellow shredder for sale here (which doesn't mean anything).
In fact I bought mine from ebay USA some time ago, thinking it was an US only version.
On the other hand, I don't recall ever seeing the model with the keychain for sale.

Carlo,
I have the same four you have, including the black 8-blade Snowboarder with short chain. Mine has the European number 1.40.03.02. The US number I have listed in my notes, 16954, is also used for the SwissGrip multitool, so it may not have been imported for long.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 28, 2013, 01:30:13 AM
Two more SIs sans croix for me. Too nice (and soon to be rare) to pass the occasion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on March 28, 2013, 01:33:19 AM
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 28, 2013, 02:10:59 AM
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)

Green!? Bah, Humbug! I absolutely refuse to have a green knife.  :D

Some nice knives from France and Denmark!  :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on March 28, 2013, 03:58:53 AM
Seen as we currently have the guru's all hovering round this thread  :D did anyone ever get to the bottom of the Ruthenium fiasco on the Porsche knives? A run on the search function revealed that Wenger officially declared these were zinc which was coated with a titanium colour (to look like Ruthenium), but Wenger's web site still says this ...

Quote
Ruthenium:

All Porsche Design Knives feature handles made of Ruthenium, an extremely strong, durable and highly rust-resistant metal in the Platinum group of elements. Ruthenium, a hard silvery-white metal provides outstanding corrosion resistance because it does not tarnish at room temperature, nor is it attacked by hot or cold acids. Ruthenium's excellent resistance is the reason for its major use as a hardener in conjunction with various other metals. Alloys of ruthenium and platinum or palladium are used for wear-resistant electrical contacts.

So Wenger's website says "made of Ruthenium" but official correspondence from Wenger's tech division says they are coated Zinc

They can't both be right .... :shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 28, 2013, 08:40:45 AM
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)

Very nice

I have noticed a detail, not sure others have any info on this?

The steel used on old Ranger and new, the new is more easy to sharpen and seems to get a even sharper edge. It bites better in woods aswell, it may be a difference in them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 28, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
the Ruthenium fiasco on the Porsche knives

That's exactly the reason why I'm not planning to buy any model from the Porsche line, which is overpriced (in my opinion).

Nice pictures Marius!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 28, 2013, 10:00:49 AM

The AP blaze feels very good in hand, great feel. The finish seems to be some thick hard plastic paint, matte. No idea how it is applied. Cannot see any spot where is missing, inside of the scales for example. Very well done. Time will tell how it will wear.

 :cheers:

Unfortunately I did not have the same good experience with the camo paint from a Ranger 57.
Please excuse the very bad quality of the pictures, but I took them with my mobile phone to show the problem to Amazon (where I bought it).
In my model the camo paint was missing inside one of the scales.
I returned the knife and received another one...... which has exactly the same problem :-[

After much thought, I returned to Amazon my second Ranger for a full refund.
I really like this model, but I will not buy it without first checking for missing camo paint.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marktwichtel on March 28, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

Hi, this is my first post - nice to be here  :tu:

I like the blue macao/lithos-mix - i have something like this too ...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 28, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Any idea of what it is?
I don't have big knowledge on the 65mm models, but it seems almost an hybrid between a Macao and a Lithos.
Right now I'm calling this a Mac-ithos  :D

Hi, this is my first post - nice to be here  :tu:

I like the blue macao/lithos-mix - i have something like this too ...

Hi Mark,

Glad to have you aboard. Agree with you, the Macaos and Lithos are great.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marktwichtel on March 28, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
... and here some alox  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 29, 2013, 08:49:50 AM

Welcome to forum, very nice knives  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 29, 2013, 09:42:48 AM
I second North Man,
welcome marktwichtel and congratulations for your Wenger's!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on March 29, 2013, 06:51:20 PM
I second North Man,
welcome marktwichtel and congratulations for your Wenger's!

+1  :tu: :tu: :tu:  :D

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on March 29, 2013, 07:26:41 PM
I was hoping to see more pictures of the Wenger Standard Issue in this thread...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 29, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
I was hoping to see more pictures of the Wenger Standard Issue in this thread...

How about these?

- Wenger SI official issue - 1964, 1973, 1980

- SI commercial knives, with and without shields

- Assorted Wenger SI commemorative knives

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on March 29, 2013, 09:45:22 PM
Those are nice, thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 30, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
And an older Ranger from our friend Per in Denmark (sorry, Karl, no purple but there is still some green in here :D)

Very nice

I have noticed a detail, not sure others have any info on this?

The steel used on old Ranger and new, the new is more easy to sharpen and seems to get a even sharper edge. It bites better in woods aswell, it may be a difference in them.
I thought it was just the change in the design of the blades... but maybe a change in the steel also?  :think:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 30, 2013, 06:28:49 PM
Does any one know anything about this piece of Wenger History?  This Hunting knife appears to be quite old as it's using Aluminum handle with riveted Fiber grips like the older soldiers.  First I've seen like this.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47745;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 30, 2013, 08:41:05 PM

Nice find!

Part of the handle actually reminds me of a Swiss bayonet i saw one time, only without the attachings, it looks to be a almost full tang construction?
I would just have to guess, aluminium was used on knives here in 60 and 70s but also more early and later. Maybe they used this more early there. The knife looks like a solid knife for hunting or heavy work on animals.

O.Dobler Appenzell sounds like a name or a Place? Is it stainless steel? if Carbon steel it should have some more patina or maybe someone polished it.

By the looks of the sheath it could be a 60s knife, but i am just guessing. I found some info one time about Wenger knives made elsewhere, i can not find it since the scanned newspapers are gone. It could have been just some other brand. This looks to have a Genuine Wenger type symbol, but i am not sure. Interesting find, hopefully others got info?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 30, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
Does any one know anything about this piece of Wenger History?  This Hunting knife appears to be quite old as it's using Aluminum handle with riveted Fiber grips like the older soldiers.  First I've seen like this.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47745;image)

I have a similar knife from Wenger, with black handles, saw teeth along the spine, and marked Wengerinox. The knife handle is similar to the traditional German boy scout knife. I recall reading that the knife was made for Wenger by another company, but can't document it.


http://youlistit.cgmauctions.com/uploaded/2013-3-7/fdf991692Db1442D4ca62D83b42D8c4c76b36420scoute.jpg
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 30, 2013, 11:08:32 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 30, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.

repeating your info - ignore.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 30, 2013, 11:58:44 PM
Comparing the Wenger to an old Western I bought in high school back in the 1960s.

The Western has better workmanship, is more solid, and feels better in the hand. I like Wenger pocket knives, but am not impressed with this Wenger hunting knife.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 12:14:06 AM
Figure while I had the knife out I'd take a couple of photos.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=45694;image)
So let's just see if everyone agrees; this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife.  Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.

So I think it is safe to say that when the American marketing of the Wenger knives began they just renamed this knife to fit their new series they created for marketing purposes?

If no one has alternate versions of the 'pointer' then I'll update the Wiki to reflect this information.

Kirk listed some other model number for the 'pointer', but this number appears to be an error, or the number was different because it was a marketing version.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 31, 2013, 04:25:55 AM
Under the name 'Setter (Pointer)' I have the number 16958. Under plain 'Pointer' I have two references for number 16995. Different importer? Slight difference in that the first has a key ring, the second has the short chain.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 12:47:03 PM

Interesting info all this,
I found some info in Boys life Dec 1981 Pointer with number 16995 but with small clip point blade + chain. In the same mag there is a Pointer with key ring and nailfile. Also Precise International.
the variation nailfile and clip blade is very common from Wenger.
In the 1979 catalogue -a Pointer 16958 is there with keyring and nailfile.

In 1977 the Sportsman presentation and personalized is mentioned, i believe this category started in 1975 and got more models, resulting in this new series. Then again not sure. There must be many variations and maybe they took the Wenger Champ and renamed it, not sure. But for marketing purposes it seems plausible.
 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 02:27:24 PM

In Popular mechanics in January 1977, the skier is mentioned. Mentioned as imported by precise international and one of the 28 latest Wenger knives. Sadly no pic here.

The Ski wax scraper was introduced in 1975, with or without the embossed i do not know? 1 or 2 years from 1975/76-77 is close. The skier also fit the interest that fit aswell. So the question is the icon Skier later? 77 or 79 or even early.

In Boys life April 1977 - three of the Fish related (seems like "embossed") are shown. With Chain. Small clip blade and one with the fl.ph.

In Backpacker Dec 1977 The new lines Sportsman Presentation and Personalized Models with embossed characters are mentioned, also mentioned as two new series. Wenger/Precise mention 40 models Original SAK available, by this they mean over all SAK i should believe.

Probarbly the series got developed into more models. And just that things are mentioned in 1977 should mean it took one or two years to manufacture, this is why i believe it was around 1975.

Icons on the scale of a Swiss army knife is not new in history and had this long before these dates. Just this particular series interest me alot. Wenger did also mentioned they used a marking tape in the embossed ones.

I remember there was some interesting info in the scanned newspapers aswell. atleast it would not be a surprise if it started with some models and it grew into more. Enough to make two series.

In Backpacker June 1976 the new improved chain shackle is put on the 1976 models.

So another part, it seems it is mentioned Precise and Wenger, it seems these got sold in europe aswell so this i why i believe many variations must excist.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 02:34:13 PM
Interesting

The Wenger Champ with a small-blade would be the original Matterhorn.

In the 1977 "boy's toys" advert the Setter has the nail file.

In the 1981 "Talking Swiss Army Knife" advert it has a small Clip Point and the number 16995.

Maybe it 'evolved'?

My copy with the Setter imprint has the nail file.

Does any one have the Setter imprint and the Small Blade?

Just to clarify; When I asked about 'versions' of the pointer I meant different tool configurations, rather than evolutionary variations.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 02:49:21 PM
Interesting

The Wenger Champ with a nail-file would be the original Matterhorn.

In the 1977 "boy's toys" advert the Setter has the nail file.

In the 1981 "Talking Swiss Army Knife" advert it has a small Clip Point and the number 16995.

Maybe it 'evolved'?

My copy with the Setter imprint has the nail file.

Does any one have the Setter imprint and the Small Blade?

Just to clarify; When I asked about 'versions' of the pointer I meant different tool configurations, rather than evolutionary variations.

I agree very interesting!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 02:53:46 PM
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 03:57:31 PM
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman series
It seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer.  Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter.  Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer"  :D arguably the "better" bird dog. 

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 31, 2013, 04:08:58 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 04:11:48 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual:
Looks like it has the same sheath with the Swiss Shield as Karl's example.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 04:14:19 PM
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman series
It seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer.  Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter.  Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer"  :D arguably the "better" bird dog.

yes :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 04:15:23 PM
Interesting

The Wenger Champ with a nail-file  would be the original Matterhorn.

In the 1977 "boy's toys" advert the Setter has the nail file.

In the 1981 "Talking Swiss Army Knife" advert it has a small Clip Point and the number 16995.

Maybe it 'evolved'?

My copy with the Setter imprint has the nail file.

Does any one have the Setter imprint and the Small Blade?

Just to clarify; When I asked about 'versions' of the pointer I meant different tool configurations, rather than evolutionary variations.

I agree very interesting!
Error: "The Wenger Champ with a nail-file  would be the original Matterhorn."
Correction: "The Wenger Champ with a small-blade would be the original Matterhorn."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 04:17:49 PM

yes, i just checked a catalogue so it is so
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 04:18:34 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:


excellent :tu:


By the way, what was it with Wenger and their plastic handles again, the dates? Since i have the info that Wenger has/had used the plastic tenite butyrate marketed by eastman since 1956.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 31, 2013, 04:59:05 PM

This is the info i have :

1951  Grilon scales used on Soldier Knife.

1955  Wenger reinvents the butcher knife for the commercial market with the SWIBO brand, featuring unique blade designs of French influence, highly polished stainless steel blades, and yellow high brightness synthetic molded handles. The handles were made from Grilon, and set new hygienic and safety standards. These knives became very popular and set many of the hygienic and safety standards that are now law in North America. PS Today the plastic is mentioned as Polyamide 6.

1956 Wenger has/had used the plastic tenite butyrate marketed by Eastman since 1956.

1976  Handle scales info Tenite Butyrate bonded under 2000 pounds pressure.(Told in the special 1976 article)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on March 31, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
This from the SAK Owner's Manual:  "In a brochure from the 1960s Wenger says that theirs was the first company to make a plastic handle on a folding knife - a claim also made by the American cutlery company PAL."   
The book also has a brief history of plastics - including the odd fact that in the days of nitro-cellulose knife handles (early 1900s) the Camillus cutlery factory in New York had a hinged roof so the roof could blow off and not destroy the building in the event of an explosion of this very volatile plastic.  Both Wenger and Victorinox switched from the somewhat safer cellulose acetate of the 1930s to cellulose acetate butyrate - later called Cellidor.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 11:17:57 PM
Messing around with some new scales I just got.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47837;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 31, 2013, 11:24:00 PM
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman series
It seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer.  Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter.  Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer"  :D arguably the "better" bird dog.

I think it was called 'Pointer' longer than it was called 'Setter', though that appears to be the original name. Maybe in the list of models you need to include Pointer with a 'see Setter' note.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 31, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Nice!  very similar, and amazing the sheath is almost the same as well, except yours has the nice Swiss Shield stamp as well.

On mine I presume "O.Dobler" was the owner of a shop in Appenzell Switzerland.  The blade on mine I'm sure is Stainless steel also.
A similar hunting knife by Wenger, with stag grips, is shown in The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual, with bayonets, and Swiss army blanket as background:

Those 'stag' handles appear to be imitation stag.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 31, 2013, 11:36:31 PM
this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife.  Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.

So I think it is safe to say that when the American marketing of the Wenger knives began they just renamed this knife to fit their new series they created for marketing purposes?



Humm, as far as I remember the "Champ" was never equipped with a locking main blade (as the "Pointer/Setter"), so i don't think the "Setter/Pointer" was just a different name used for the "Champ" sold in the US market.
It is interesting to note that the 1979 catalog posted is using the same claim "World's largest Swiss Army Knife" also for the Matterhorn  :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=99&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2665&scalesize=o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 31, 2013, 11:46:19 PM
PS in March 1979 (Popular science)there is just in writing that the "Setter" is the worlds largest SAK and part of the new Sportsman series
It seems we can correct one thing; it's the Setter, and forget from this point onward that some people started calling it a Pointer.  Maybe someone wished it was a Pointer, but no it was a Setter.  Maybe they didn't want Victorinox to use the name "Pointer"  :D arguably the "better" bird dog.

I think it was called 'Pointer' longer than it was called 'Setter', though that appears to be the original name. Maybe in the list of models you need to include Pointer with a 'see Setter' note.
Absolutely; of course we would still mention the use of the name 'Pointer' in connection with this knife.

Humm, as far as I remember the "Champ" was never equipped with a locking main blade (as the "Pointer/Setter"), so i don't think the "Setter/Pointer" was just a different name used for the "Champ" sold in the US market.
....

That's a very good point to consider.  I must have been sleeping to miss the locking blade difference.  However; I can't beleive this configuration would go nameless outside of the US, so if not the Champ, then what name was it given in Switzerland?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 01, 2013, 09:26:26 AM
This from the SAK Owner's Manual:  "In a brochure from the 1960s Wenger says that theirs was the first company to make a plastic handle on a folding knife - a claim also made by the American cutlery company PAL."   
The book also has a brief history of plastics - including the odd fact that in the days of nitro-cellulose knife handles (early 1900s) the Camillus cutlery factory in New York had a hinged roof so the roof could blow off and not destroy the building in the event of an explosion of this very volatile plastic.  Both Wenger and Victorinox switched from the somewhat safer cellulose acetate of the 1930s to cellulose acetate butyrate - later called Cellidor.

thank you, yes this is interesting.
Victorinox history i got also mention 1930s. I did do some research aswell that the formula got changed over the years. The last years information from Victorinox mention organic cellulose acetat,
from the manual: Cellidor is a trade name for organic cellulose ester, which is a modified natural product.
 Also from the manual (evolution on the 91mm) -1937 Handles made from cellidor replace fiber
handles.
I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 01, 2013, 09:49:26 AM
this large knife with the image of the Setter (US model 16958), but often called a Pointer, has the same tool configuration as the Wenger Champ (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Champ), and based on the description in the '79 catalog it would be because they claim it's the largest Swiss Army Knife.  Karl's picture shows the same tool configuration also.

So I think it is safe to say that when the American marketing of the Wenger knives began they just renamed this knife to fit their new series they created for marketing purposes?



Humm, as far as I remember the "Champ" was never equipped with a locking main blade (as the "Pointer/Setter"), so i don't think the "Setter/Pointer" was just a different name used for the "Champ" sold in the US market.
It is interesting to note that the 1979 catalog posted is using the same claim "World's largest Swiss Army Knife" also for the Matterhorn  :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=99&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=2665&scalesize=o

Yes this i so :)
For marketing to have the "largest" knife is important. So this knife regardless of variation Clip Blade/nailfile keyring/chain Lockblade/regular.

It seems to me the most important factor is the numbers on knives, the names get confused.
The new 1979 catalogue is very interesting and nice. Shows many interesting knives.
PS have in mind folks that the locking feature is late 70s and we do not know all the facts on when the Setter/pointer arrived, since these series are mentioned in 1977, i guess variations up to yin yang :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 01, 2013, 11:06:31 AM
Forgive me for all the text :D

Here is what would be very important for us to know, regarding many factors:

We really need to find out whats been going on between 1975-1979. We need to know about the Universal Wrench/Phillips if 1977 or more early. Atleast the type we know.

The Skier or Ski wax tool 1975 or?

Sportsman Presentation and Personalized 1977 or more early.

The Packlock(if it got modifications back then, and or if it is even more early than 1978)

The Chain 1976 or more early?

The embossed imprints( when they first was used and why) or different made

It seems to me this period 1975 and up is very important just to be sure on the Champ/Matterhorn`s /Pointer or Setter and more. Without these we will never know
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on April 01, 2013, 02:39:30 PM
Messing around with some new scales I just got.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=47837;image)

Very nice this black - orange combination  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 01, 2013, 02:42:42 PM

i agree  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on April 01, 2013, 07:54:58 PM
"I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure."

North Man - more from the SAK Owner's Manual - "A new type of celluloid, cellulose acetate, was introduced by Camille and Henri Dreyfus of Basel, Switzerland in 1904, and proved be more stable than cellulose nitrate. In 1929 the Tennessee Eastman Corporation added propionate and called it Tenite. In 1938 they made cellulose acetate with butyrate to make Tenite II. In 1952 the plastic called Cellite made from surplus stocks of WWII plastic aircraft windows was renamed Cellidor; chemically this was also cellulose acetate butyrate (CAB).  Cellidor has proved to both stable and very tough (see Test results)."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wootz on April 01, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Get THE book of knowledge, guys  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 01, 2013, 09:28:40 PM
"I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure."

North Man - more from the SAK Owner's Manual - "A new type of celluloid, cellulose acetate, was introduced by Camille and Henri Dreyfus of Basel, Switzerland in 1904, and proved be more stable than cellulose nitrate. In 1929 the Tennessee Eastman Corporation added propionate and called it Tenite. In 1938 they made cellulose acetate with butyrate to make Tenite II. In 1952 the plastic called Cellite made from surplus stocks of WWII plastic aircraft windows was renamed Cellidor; chemically this was also cellulose acetate butyrate (CAB).  Cellidor has proved to both stable and very tough (see Test results)."

thanks, this made sence. I will note these interesting informations. I will have in mind the Eastman or Tennessee Eastman Corporation, so maybe the 1956 date is to have in mind. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on April 02, 2013, 01:29:50 AM
Hello everybody!

I am French, collector of Swiss knives and administrator of ' www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch) '. I invite you to show it (french version), you will find lot of informations about Soldier knives between 1890 to 2012 (Wenger, Victorinox and other marks).

By reading your different posts, I see that some body have catalogs, newspapers or  about Wenger knives. Could you please scan these documents, especially those prior to 1991? You can contact me by 'PM' to have my e-mail address. Thanks !

Jean-Claude
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on April 02, 2013, 01:45:55 AM
This from the SAK Owner's Manual:  "In a brochure from the 1960s Wenger says that theirs was the first company to make a plastic handle on a folding knife - a claim also made by the American cutlery company PAL."   
The book also has a brief history of plastics - including the odd fact that in the days of nitro-cellulose knife handles (early 1900s) the Camillus cutlery factory in New York had a hinged roof so the roof could blow off and not destroy the building in the event of an explosion of this very volatile plastic.  Both Wenger and Victorinox switched from the somewhat safer cellulose acetate of the 1930s to cellulose acetate butyrate - later called Cellidor.

thank you, yes this is interesting.
Victorinox history i got also mention 1930s. I did do some research aswell that the formula got changed over the years. The last years information from Victorinox mention organic cellulose acetat,
from the manual: Cellidor is a trade name for organic cellulose ester, which is a modified natural product.
 Also from the manual (evolution on the 91mm) -1937 Handles made from cellidor replace fiber
handles.
I to had information that Wenger did use plastics very early but i can not confirm, and about the Eastman. This is just some information that i found researching, i do not know the full info since is just a small remark in Google books. If Eastman is the supplier or other at this time of history, not sure.

Hello,

I confirm, Wenger did use plastics early (since 1951 on soldiers knives) with a red thermo-plastic named "Grilon".
Grilon is always used by Victorinox and Wender, Now this plastic is made (for Victorinox and Wenger) by the society "EMS" (ESSE international group).
You can read more informations here : http://www.esse-international.fr/doc/grilon.pdf
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 02, 2013, 02:26:10 AM
Hello everybody!

I am French, collector of Swiss knives and administrator of ' www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch) '. I invite you to show it (french version), you will find lot of informations about Soldier knives between 1890 to 2012 (Wenger, Victorinox and other marks).

By reading your different posts, I see that some body have catalogs, newspapers or  about Wenger knives. Could you please scan these documents, especially those prior to 1991? You can contact me by 'PM' to have my e-mail address. Thanks !

Jean-Claude

Hello Jean-Claude,

Welcome to Multitool.

Check out SAKwiki. It has a lot of scanned catalogs for both Victorinox and Wenger, as well as links to other useful sites such as SOSAK. A lot of other good info there also.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on April 02, 2013, 02:53:47 AM
Just remember to give credit to the source, SAKwiki
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 02, 2013, 06:43:08 AM
...
We really need to find out whats been going on between 1975-1979.
...
Yes, hopefully we'll find this information soon.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 02, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
I had had a burning desire to pick up the Ranger 78 for the past few months.  I really need to pull the trigger as it may become extinct soon.  The Amazon $44 price tag is psychologically holding me back...

Grr
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 02, 2013, 06:34:39 PM

Another top score for Wenger in Villmarksliv, only one that works perfekt after water test, dipped under water. Not so large test like on the multitools but well test anyhow. The people there know their stuff :)

 I got a Clava red and black, it is the same type as the tested one. A licensed product made in China.

Another thing, the modern braided fishing lines are mean, the older mono lines could very easy be cut with scissors or the nail clipper. Not sure i have mentioned this before. Anyhow here the serrated scissors works best. This is a 65mm..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 03, 2013, 01:25:48 AM
Excerpt from 1972 Information Sheet included with knives at the time.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2714)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 03, 2013, 01:47:40 AM
Looks interesting. Awaiting its posting on the wiki.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 03, 2013, 02:02:00 AM
Looks interesting. Awaiting its posting on the wiki.  :tu:
That's all there is; the other side of this is a reminder to fill out the warranty information "neatly", the form itself, and notes to oil and clean your knife.  Not too exciting, I thought I had posted this earlier, but it must have got bumped off the scanner for something more exciting at the time.  Since there was talk of the scales composition earlier I thought I'd post this, the choice of the knife they display says something I think.

Now I do have something that looks interesting from that original company... Ever hear of the Presidential Series?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 03, 2013, 02:12:40 AM
Thought that was going to detain all 26 models and versions.  :-[

There's a series of Classics with presidential signatures on them - Johnson, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.

The Wenger two-blade Crusader/Executive without a keyring was sold as the President. There was also a money clip version.

If its something else I don't have any info.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 03, 2013, 02:22:47 AM
Thought that was going to detain all 26 models and versions.  :-[
Ya I wish... it will happen one day... someone out there has the info...

There's a series of Classics with presidential signatures on them - Johnson, Reagan, Bush, Clinton.

The Wenger two-blade Crusader/Executive without a keyring was sold as the President. There was also a money clip version.

If its something else I don't have any info.
Something else... but just so you don't get too excited it's more of a name-game than anything new so it might take me a while to find time for it.   Maybe after I watch the movie Lincoln I'll be inspired, he's a top dog in the this series as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 09:32:02 AM
Excerpt from 1972 Information Sheet included with knives at the time.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2714)

Hi
I nice quality piece for the SakWiki, part i have seen before in the Oct Field and Stream 1972. Here mentioned PIC Precise imports Cor. And not Precise International, mentioned subsidiary of Esquire inc. Is this a detail worth any?

Some of my thoughts:

Alittle info here and there is helpful, also interesting is the adverts since they show at the time details, and also how a SAK is presented outwards.
If we have in mind the backpacking boom of the 70s and that Wenger entered atleast from my info, the US marked is 1967.

The Backpacker magazine is 1973 and up, and from alot of the articles we see much of the different knives, the development of the modern SAK.  Also that Wenger Precise adverts mentioning they are the originator of how the SAK look today(1976).

Like we know the adverts 1977-1979 show much of interesting series and knives + functions.
It fit my belief that to enter a marked better, one need to show new models and things that are special.


The time, 1975 and up is therefore very interesting, on the changes/functions and more. We know from research that Wenger is early. In the early 70s Wenger was not large in the US marked, maybe the 70s had a good effect here. And in 1988, newspapers mentioning 10% of Wenger marked is in the US.
We know from history that Wenger in many cases or philosophy have had to come up with new ideas and functions to survive. The possibility to a larger knife is there when a universal wrench in combo with the phillips. Now a new series of knives can be made, when did these two new functions come?
Just that it is shown in 1977 means it must have been on the drawing board early. I hardly believe they are in adverts if not made yet, delay in production may happen but not is this case.
A manual part from 1975(if certain) show a universal wrench and phillips. I know from searching patents that not all are correct on the date of manufacture.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 03, 2013, 09:37:06 AM
Excerpt from 1972 Information Sheet included with knives at the time.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on April 03, 2013, 04:20:08 PM
"Just that it is shown in 1977 means it must have been on the drawing board early. I hardly believe they are in adverts if not made yet, delay in production may happen but not is this case."
 
North Man, Can you show us a photo of the advert of 1977 showing the wrench and phillips?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 03, 2013, 04:46:01 PM
Waiting for North Man, I can post this link
http://www.multi-tool.org/advertisements
Scroll down and under the "Wenger" section there is an old advertisement with the Pointer/Setter showing both the wrench and phillips.
The above image has this file name "Backpacker Dec. 1977".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 05:36:14 PM

Hi
I wonder if it was this,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 05:53:54 PM

here is the backpacker magazine

http://books.google.no/books?id=8OMDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=backpacker+dec+1977&hl=no&sa=X&ei=MlBcUZ_HK4Sk4ATNioCQCQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=wenger&f=false
I had more info, they shut down the news archive of scanned papers, :(

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 06:04:30 PM
here is the one from 1975 from the SAKWIKI, i am not sure on the date, if 75? I believe it was ICanFixThats, very grateful for his work!

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?imageId=2104
Anyhow i have a strong feeling from research, during the 2 years time i searched every scanned paper and article. Wenger is early, we may have to find new dates? Any help would be nice
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on April 03, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
The "Man's two best friends" ad, when clicked on Properties, does indeed show a tag date of Dec. 1977.  The photo shows the universal wrench and ski-wax scraper, and no line guide on the fish-scaler.  Also the transfer-bar scissors patented in 1975.  Not the locking drivers, introduced in 1982.

An email I got from Wenger in 2010 says that the line guide was added to the fish-scaler in 1960 (which can't be so), and (surely a typo) that the reamer/leather punch went from the old quarter-round type to rectangular in 1995.
Wenger had a bad factory fire in 1986, destroying many company. 
The 1970s are as North Man has said an important time in the development of Wenger, and this period remains just as mysterious as so much of the Wenger story -- the early Boechat years (3-face tang stamp?), their absence in America during the World Wars...
Hopefully "one of us" with Wenger SAKs in boxes with dated papers can determine a more accurate timeline of the introduction of the Wenger tools.  These old ads are good data.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 06:17:46 PM

Hi  :)

Yes, these are my views aswell.

I know Wenger do their best always to give best informations. It is very difficult to find sometimes..
Very grateful for them.

It is very strange that the 70s should have so much difficulties for us?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 03, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
I would recommend SAKWIKI. Just look at this 1960s early Sportsman series

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2229

SAKs are Sportsmen knives, and in the 1977-1979 embossed icons to more easy identify with your interest are shown.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 04, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
From what I see there seems to be a big change, at least in their marketing matereals, between the 1972 and 1975 knive-insert examples.  I'm pretty sure also that the 1975 Insert matches exactly the 1978 insert which would indicate to me that between 72 and 75 are probbaly the tool changes we are looking for in the 70s.

It is curious though that in 72 they say 26 models to choose from, and that same number of models it reported until much later.  That could be one of these 'ops' things in their printed materials or the importer decided that was the maximum number they wanted to handle.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 08:31:03 AM

Yes, interesting :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on April 04, 2013, 08:31:27 AM
Hello,

On SAKWiki, we can find this catalog : http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=98 indicated as "1963 Dealer's Circular from Distributor".

I think the fist page could be from a 1963 catalog, but the second page is probably from a 1972 or 1975 catalog : between the 2 pages we can see 2 generations of can openers...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 08:50:40 AM
Hi

Welcome to forum

Here is an interesting Max Oertli patent application, filed 1962 http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=CH&NR=377213A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19640430&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 09:06:06 AM

Another company in the late 70s is REI (Recreational Equipment Inc) Knives by Precise/Wenger
No wrench here so far.

Adverts in Popular Science Oct 77
                Field and Stream Sep 78
                Field and Stream Nov 79 (Backpacker II with lockblade)

I wonder if there are some more early info to be found on them? Adverts, catalogues or other.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 09:29:17 AM

I did find long time ago the Windjammer, wrench and phillips in the Backpacker Oct-Nov 1979

And the REI company in late 70 had REI CO-OP designation , in the Backpacker Oct-Nov 79 it is a company CO-OP Wilderness Supply, again if there could be some infor to be found from them?

Most early on the embossed icons i found was 1977 like i have shown in this topic. Along with everything else 1975 is a key year.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on April 04, 2013, 05:35:41 PM

Here is an interesting Max Oertli patent application, filed 1962 http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=CH&NR=377213A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19640430&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

The story of Kaspar and Max Oertli (not to mention daughter Lisette and the dashing General Saucy), the invention and re-invention of Wenger's "dog-leg" can-opener, the company exchanging French for German after World War II --these are covered in Young's book about the Swiss Army Knife.
Here is a photo of Eichenberger's 1963 opener and Oertli's 1964:
 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 07:26:24 PM

Yes absolutely, this is why the catalogue date may be correct, also one can read on them or translate some on espacenet patents,


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 04, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
ICanFixThat did mention and like we did research some time ago, we found the scissor from Wenger around 1972, this means we can confirm this date, and even take precautions 1971-1973.
So now we have a important clue on early 70s development. ICanFixThat mention changes in early 70s.
Also is it correct what we found some time ago on the nailfile, the modern early 70s and i found an interesting patent application from or filed 1971. From the little German i know and the translator, it is mentioned a new production means for nailfiles, for pocket knives, here again is some info on steel, this is/did find elsewhere aswell. Will look for this in english.
As tempered steel 0.3 to 0.4 carbon, and 13 to 14% chromium, is the RC hardness of about 53 to 57.
all of this info is old for us, but it fit in the early 70s changes, maybe we can get closer to the 1975 key year :) Hopefully we could learn more on the scales here aswell.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on April 04, 2013, 11:43:33 PM
Are you maybe referring to Wenger's patent granted in 1973 for the spark-erosion method for making the filing surface on the nail-file?  No more parallel lines, just a harshly-stippled surface.  Like the nail-files on Wenger and Victorinox knives now except the Executive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on April 05, 2013, 12:33:18 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)

Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)

Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)

The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 05, 2013, 12:35:31 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)

Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)

Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)

The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade

Pictures are always good!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 05, 2013, 02:48:22 AM
I I have been wanting to pick up a swissbuck traveler for a bit. Are the scales the same material as standard?  Are they more grippy in design and materials that the smooth faced wengers?

Cheers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on April 05, 2013, 02:58:55 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:


I am  :drool: after some of these bug time... Nice set!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 05, 2013, 02:59:50 AM
I I have been wanting to pick up a swissbuck traveler for a bit. Are the scales the same material as standard?  Are they more grippy in design and materials that the smooth faced wengers?

Cheers

The SwissBuck handles have a matte surface and grooves. I think they're nylon but the one ad I have doesn't say anything. They're slightly more slip resistant. The big difference is the clip- rather than spear-point main blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on April 05, 2013, 03:03:26 AM
I I have been wanting to pick up a swissbuck traveler for a bit. Are the scales the same material as standard?  Are they more grippy in design and materials that the smooth faced wengers?

Cheers

Slightly more grippy, very slightly ... but negligable.

The Soft Touch 14 has the same clip blade but not the chain and is currently available (so prob easier to find and cheaper), and has the best traction of the three. That said, in my hands the Evowood 14 feels even less liable to slip

Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:


I am  :drool: after some of these bug time... Nice set!  :cheers:

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on April 05, 2013, 06:17:36 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)

Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)

Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)

The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D
Amen to that!  :salute: :salute:

Great photos. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 05, 2013, 08:47:54 AM
Are you maybe referring to Wenger's patent granted in 1973 for the spark-erosion method for making the filing surface on the nail-file?  No more parallel lines, just a harshly-stippled surface.  Like the nail-files on Wenger and Victorinox knives now except the Executive.

Hi, yes absolutely. Its the one

The more modern can opener(different size) is shown on the 77 tool set. Already in knife picture adverts elsewehere aswell in 77. Probarbly you have some info on the invention of this can opener?, i would be surprised if it was not more early than 77 :)
Atleast for me this era of SAK is the modern SAK (1975).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 05, 2013, 08:48:46 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5466_zps0e4a4d50.jpg)

Top Row L-R:
(Victorinox) Climber Small
Alinghi Souvenir
Soft Touch 14
Classic Traveller
Part-Serrated Traveller (No T&T)

Btm Row L-R
Wood 03
Evowood 14
SwissBuck Sidekick
Metal 50
Brushed Stainless Traveller

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5468_zps582a8a7f.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5469_zpse963eb72.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5470_zps7410ae93.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx122/50ft-trad/IMG_5472_zpseaa8b656.jpg)

The SwissBuck Sidekick and Soft Touch 14 share the same clip blade

lovely sets :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 05, 2013, 09:48:59 AM
 :D
I will let this matter rest after this for awhile.
Old research i had on the changing of the sides, can opener/fl.scr.dr is around 1977. It means again to me it fit more into the 1975 modern SAK. Not 100% here on the side change, hopefully we could have 1975 soon.

Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)

Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on April 05, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)

What? I was only joking, you know. We rely on you guys for all this great info  :pok: :D  :salute:

I was just adding a light hearted interval and a few piccies for the clueless fools like me :P
Thanks for the kind comments BTW  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 05, 2013, 10:47:12 AM

keep posting lovely SAKs  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 05, 2013, 10:57:15 AM
Too much talking ... not enough piccies  :pok: :pok:

 :P  :D :D

Here's some piccies of the Traveller variants that I've been meaning to take for a while  :tu:


Nice set and I'm glad to see you finally found the Wood03!



Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture



Nice one!
Is it the model with the can opener/cap lifter?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on April 05, 2013, 10:59:15 AM
Thank you  :salute: I'm glad I got it too. I think it'll be getting some pocket time this weekend   :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 05, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
Just picked up a Ranger 78 and boy is it awesome!

The only thing I find odd about it is the caplifter makes a strange sound when it is opened.  The sound is kind of like how a rubber o ring sounds when it is getting worn down.  Is this a lemon?  Or is the sound standard?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 05, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
I believe this is a "Swiss Outdoorsman" with standard red scales.
Any information about the catalog number?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 05, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
Now for this one, does anybody have an idea about a possible name or catalog number?
Unless I missed something I wasn't able to find any information.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 05, 2013, 10:53:03 PM
The only info I have on the top knife is a couple of photos of red and green L.L. Bean versions and the note that they called it the ' Swiss Outdoorsman'.

The second knife I don't even have a photo of. Closest I can find is the Classic 23/Major, which adds a saw.

A couple of great finds!  :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 02:02:26 AM
....
Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)

I'm waiting to get some white scales for a black knife.  I do like these scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 06, 2013, 03:21:44 AM
:D
I will let this matter rest after this for awhile.
Old research i had on the changing of the sides, can opener/fl.scr.dr is around 1977. It means again to me it fit more into the 1975 modern SAK. Not 100% here on the side change, hopefully we could have 1975 soon.

Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)

Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)

Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 04:03:48 AM
....
Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo.  :tu:

They have been out for a little while now, a few shops have them listed now as in stock.  I ordered mine on the 2nd, maybe I'll have them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 06, 2013, 09:12:29 AM
:D
I will let this matter rest after this for awhile.
Old research i had on the changing of the sides, can opener/fl.scr.dr is around 1977. It means again to me it fit more into the 1975 modern SAK. Not 100% here on the side change, hopefully we could have 1975 soon.

Hope you folks forgive me for all the text :)

Here is a nice picture, latest Wenger. It is a shame i just fish, hope you like the picture

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48037;image)

Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo.  :tu:

Yes it is my knife and picture :)
These scales look really nice, model Snow 50 do not have fl.sc.driver or can opener. Just the tools on picture. Corkscrew but not reamer.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48091;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 06, 2013, 09:32:17 AM
Another picture, i feel Wenger did a smart evolution with the last years scales.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48093;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on April 06, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
 Those a rubberized scale, or solid, Mr. North man?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 06, 2013, 09:45:46 AM
Hi

It is a coating applied on the scales, one can see them on different camo pattern knives. I guess we can not expect the same durability like on the standard scales. I have a Ap Blaze 10 that i have used for some time every day. So far it only looks better :)

PS it is not slippery

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 01:18:41 PM
Beautiful pictures Northman!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 06, 2013, 01:21:38 PM

Thanks alot :tu:

 I wonder on the coating on the Realtree camo, what kind of coating or what the materials + how it is applied?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on April 06, 2013, 07:05:30 PM
Lithos - Blue Bahia
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HdPWcrQ-Gxg/UWBTHxGCogI/AAAAAAAAGxE/lvNJ8JpjgNs/s800/DSCN2161_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tM56zPw3KMQ/UWBTHFhc1GI/AAAAAAAAGuI/MPd3FxAyiuk/s800/DSCN2146_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eDyOknVvtKs/UWBTHHxyDUI/AAAAAAAAGw8/bHWFyTvENIg/s800/DSCN2148_r.jpg)


Lithos Landscape Jasper
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_kfHHkbPPkQ/UWBTJxNJH_I/AAAAAAAAGvQ/ptaOxJoR6r0/s800/DSCN2205_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JHyoZ42RbHU/UWBTJHMLwLI/AAAAAAAAGu0/i33s7UquAbc/s800/DSCN2195_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SUJZ_GK8bQY/UWBTJRbkfkI/AAAAAAAAGu8/hICZFXnFt24/s800/DSCN2197_r.jpg)


 See more pics...
 (https://picasaweb.google.com/114771380811023687526/DiverseWenger?authuser=0&feat=directlink)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on April 06, 2013, 07:15:56 PM
Lithos ...

Delicious! :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on April 06, 2013, 07:25:13 PM
Is that your knife? If so glad to see they're out. Regardless, a great photo.  :tu:

Did you get yours yet, Karl? Saw them appearing in US, nothing in Canada so far  :-[
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 07:46:22 PM
Lithos - Blue Bahia
.....

Lithos Landscape Jasper
....

Beauties!!  I don't know why these and the Maccao are not more popular. Sterling seems to get much more of a following... even ugly ones.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 06, 2013, 09:11:55 PM
Lithos - Blue Bahia
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HdPWcrQ-Gxg/UWBTHxGCogI/AAAAAAAAGxE/lvNJ8JpjgNs/s800/DSCN2161_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tM56zPw3KMQ/UWBTHFhc1GI/AAAAAAAAGuI/MPd3FxAyiuk/s800/DSCN2146_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eDyOknVvtKs/UWBTHHxyDUI/AAAAAAAAGw8/bHWFyTvENIg/s800/DSCN2148_r.jpg)


Lithos Landscape Jasper
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_kfHHkbPPkQ/UWBTJxNJH_I/AAAAAAAAGvQ/ptaOxJoR6r0/s800/DSCN2205_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JHyoZ42RbHU/UWBTJHMLwLI/AAAAAAAAGu0/i33s7UquAbc/s800/DSCN2195_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SUJZ_GK8bQY/UWBTJRbkfkI/AAAAAAAAGu8/hICZFXnFt24/s800/DSCN2197_r.jpg)


 See more pics...
 (https://picasaweb.google.com/114771380811023687526/DiverseWenger?authuser=0&feat=directlink)

Beautiful shots of beautiful knives! The gold looks pretty nice too.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 11:11:18 PM
More AP Snow, but a crappy picture compared to Northman's pictures.

One thing I noticed is these two Wenger came with what appears to be higher quality split-rings, and they look to be a nickle-silver alloy.  Anyone else notice a change in split-rings recently?  I hope Victorinox switches to these rings.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on April 06, 2013, 11:45:10 PM
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 06, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?
Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 07, 2013, 09:14:26 AM
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?
Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
  • Ranger 50
  • Ranger 79
  • Evo 13
  • Evo 10

Nice pictures from you aswell :tu:

I just looked at the split-rings in light and yes there is a difference, also on 85mm. Got no info on this yet. Interesting observation.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on April 07, 2013, 01:53:08 PM
Do the snow scales come on other models as well?
Currently wenger is offering it on 4 models in North America:
  • Ranger 50
  • Ranger 79
  • Evo 13
  • Evo 10

Nice, thanks. :tu:

Might pick up a 79 in a few months. I see one on German eBay but I'll wait till I don't have to pay customs taxes anymore. :D

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on April 07, 2013, 02:20:26 PM
More AP Snow, but a crappy picture compared to Northman's pictures.

One thing I noticed is these two Wenger came with what appears to be higher quality split-rings, and they look to be a nickle-silver alloy.  Anyone else notice a change in split-rings recently?  I hope Victorinox switches to these rings.

The Snow looks very nice. Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot...  ;)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 07, 2013, 02:57:50 PM
Nice pictures above!
Interesting that the same Ranger model from North Man and ICFT has different camo patterns.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 07, 2013, 04:22:55 PM
....
Interesting that the same Ranger model from North Man and ICFT has different camo patterns.
That's the nature of the Realtree Camo process, you'll find that with any of their camo series.  I think they have a unique pattern of 'n' size, then they make large sheets of 'm' size ('m' might equal 'n') then the sheet is cut into 'x' number of sections and each section is applied to the item.  I'm not sure of the application process, but I think it's similar to how large advertising is done these days when it envelopes something like a buss or other irregular shape. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 07, 2013, 05:00:30 PM
....
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot...  ;)
OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?

[Updated pic a 2nd time... now I'm done.]

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 07, 2013, 07:26:17 PM
Wenger and Victorinox have both over the years been increasing their cross marketing of their different product lines, and both have expanded their watch lines greatly over the past few years.  So putting a watch  and Swiss Army Knife in the same box would be quite natural, and they have both been doing it.  I've been wondering what Wenger will be doing after they are no longer puting their own brand on SAKs.

Here is a recent example by Wenger; they package together one of their Terragraph model watches with an EvoWood S557 SAK.  I was surprised to find out that the EvoWood scales on this knife are a really light tan color, quite different from the normal EvoWood scales.

The box for the package is also quite nice.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on April 07, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
....
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot...  ;)
OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?

[Updated pic a 2nd time... now I'm done.]

 :tu: Yes. Thanks for this nice shot.  :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 07, 2013, 09:21:19 PM
....
Can you take a picture from a black Ranger and an AP blaze and an AP snow together to compare? This would be a nice shot...  ;)
OK here is a very quick snap; is this what you had in mind?

[Updated pic a 2nd time... now I'm done.]

Lovely picture :)

And yes it is also my observations that the patterns are different on the same series. For example the AP Blaze. So far all i have seen are different.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 07, 2013, 09:33:37 PM
Wenger and Victorinox have both over the years been increasing their cross marketing of their different product lines, and both have expanded their watch lines greatly over the past few years.  So putting a watch  and Swiss Army Knife in the same box would be quite natural, and they have both been doing it.  I've been wondering what Wenger will be doing after they are no longer puting their own brand on SAKs.

Here is a recent example by Wenger; they package together one of their Terragraph model watches with an EvoWood S557 SAK.  I was surprised to find out that the EvoWood scales on this knife are a really light tan color, quite different from the normal EvoWood scales.

The box for the package is also quite nice.

I must say it looks nice :tu:

On the Kon-Tiki Evowood the scales are light in color like on yours. I also wonder on this, then again the same wood may have very different colors if one can say. All i know is that it was mentioned that Wenger match up the scales, both scales should look the same.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 08, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Hi
My last wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 08, 2013, 12:27:15 PM
Wenger SGT Shortix-Plus instruction
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 08, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
Nice Gim!  I'm still looking for one of those.  That's a great one with the instructions Disc and all.

  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 08, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
It Wenger SGT Fix-It was bought a year ago.
There was a usual instruction of Wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 08, 2013, 01:41:01 PM
It Wenger SGT Fix-It was bought a year ago.
There was a usual instruction of Wenger

Very Nice!  Can you tell me if your new one came with one slot for a removable tool empty?

Thanks!

[Update:]
Just to clarify; I mean one layer empty... I think I can see from the photograph that there is an empty layer on your knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 08, 2013, 01:51:37 PM
more foto
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 08, 2013, 02:07:51 PM
At Wenger SGT Fix-It  a septum hook, a ferrule remover and a round file twists in the removed tool
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 08, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Very nice pictures, congratulations!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 12, 2013, 10:13:32 AM
more foto

Very nice!


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 12, 2013, 10:16:10 AM

How is it with Wenger sheaths?

I just got another of these, seems like they must have been made for many years. Could be better but nice for light duty i guess.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48467;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on April 12, 2013, 11:12:25 AM
  Really missing my S557. Wenger better fix it for making me wait this long. :twak:

  Was out looking for an EKA Wenger and not finding anything tangible for purchasing. Might end up going by Kmart and checking out what they had there for SAK again. If they had something in yellow, maybe. Not sure what the fascination is with red scales. Wood is so much more natural.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 12, 2013, 11:05:12 PM
Have a look at this auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/swiss-army-knife-wenger-delemont-switzerland-/171023197445?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item27d1c6e505
The knife is a camo Highlander and is seems that the camo paint is just applied over the standard red scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 12, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
Crazy price on that SAK.  "All the blades are in good condition..." talk about being blind.  Reminds me of a recent Soldier auction where the sheild was badly damaged and the seller said the was in excellent near mint condition.   His sense of distance was obviously not the same as mine.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 13, 2013, 10:25:13 AM

Must have seen hard use that knife.

I have had for EDC a Ap Blaze 10 since February, had in jeans or jacket pocket. I used it for small things for hobbies or just a stroll. The point was only to see wear resistance of the "coating" on them.
Even sometimes the rubbing against keys or mobilephone, this will scratch even the normal scales.

For me it seems the "coating" is strong against wear/abrasion on fabrics. I can not see much change, maybe just some more smooth.

I did do a sin. I scratched a part to see how thick it is, it got some thickness to it( can not measure it :D). Under it is white.

I should have worked better on these two pictures, just to get the correct color or shade of the orange. It will at least show the surface some. The camo is intact, just some small scratches that is not deep enough to go through the "coat"
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 14, 2013, 07:32:21 AM
A NIB sharper image King Arthur just went for $227.  Pretty crazy, that knife seems to be quite rare:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281089326223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 14, 2013, 09:23:03 AM


Interesting with the Dynasty and Star - America and Europe. Already some info on SAKWIKI

Here is some on Diplomat + some info https://www.wengerna.com/diplomat
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 14, 2013, 09:34:03 AM
They were sold as the Diplomat series in Europe and the Dynasty series in North America.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Dynasty+Series

Two different version of the fancy pattern, on the Lancelot (L) and King Arthur (R).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 14, 2013, 09:50:22 AM

Looks good :)

Yes it is my info aswell that they were sold as Diplomat here in Europe, and Dynasty in North America. Somehow i like the Dynasty and the name of the knights best. Not sure the Ivanhoe name been used in Europe for example??

The Star designation: this is used on many different knife categories, if one look in the 1992-1995 EU French catalogue on Sakwiki one see this.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 14, 2013, 01:56:38 PM
A NIB sharper image King Arthur just went for $227.  Pretty crazy, that knife seems to be quite rare:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281089326223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Yes, too high in my opinion.
I bought one some time ago for much less.
My model has some wear on the scales, but I'm going to replace them since they are the same as the smaller variants.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 14, 2013, 01:59:02 PM


Two different version of the fancy pattern, on the Lancelot (L) and King Arthur (R).

Karl,
so is there a Lancelot variation with the corkscrew?
I bought one from Felinvet with standard phillips, and my model has the same scales as the other from the series.
http://www.edcsource.com/113558,auction_id,auction_details
I have seen an other example like mine here on the forum
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 14, 2013, 03:06:59 PM
I read somewhere that the first King Arthur was an exclusive thru the Sharper Image catalog in the mid 80s. The SI catalog ones predate the Dynasty series. Is this correct?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 15, 2013, 12:57:45 AM


Two different version of the fancy pattern, on the Lancelot (L) and King Arthur (R).

Karl,
so is there a Lancelot variation with the corkscrew?
I bought one from Felinvet with standard phillips, and my model has the same scales as the other from the series.
http://www.edcsource.com/113558,auction_id,auction_details
I have seen an other example like mine here on the forum

Carlo,

I can't keep my left and right straight, particularly at two in the morning. Should be Lancelot (R) and King Arthur (L).

Fancy and plain King Arthurs, and fancy and plain Lancelots.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 15, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
Carlo,

I can't keep my left and right straight, particularly at two in the morning. Should be Lancelot (R) and King Arthur (L).

Fancy and plain King Arthurs, and fancy and plain Lancelots.

No problems, thanks for the pictures!!!!
I didn't know that both the King Arthur and the Lancelot had the two type scale variant.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on April 15, 2013, 03:43:42 PM
Any ideas why there were 2 variants? Perhaps the difference between the European and N.A. models? Anyone have a Diplomat brochure?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 15, 2013, 06:39:35 PM
Any ideas why there were 2 variants? Perhaps the difference between the European and N.A. models? Anyone have a Diplomat brochure?
To be honest I'm not even sure there were other variants sold in Europe apart from the "Ivanhoe" (1 58 00) and "Gawain" (1 59 00).
At least, I have never seen them for sale here.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aloha on April 15, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
These are my Wengers,  the Evolution S10 goes with me everyday.  I really like the locking blade tho I like a similar one with scissors.  I use a reflective cord on it cause i have dropped it at night and couldnt locate it quickly enuf.   
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 15, 2013, 10:12:08 PM
Any ideas why there were 2 variants? Perhaps the difference between the European and N.A. models? Anyone have a Diplomat brochure?
To be honest I'm not even sure there were other variants sold in Europe apart from the "Ivanhoe" (1 58 00) and "Gawain" (1 59 00).
At least, I have never seen them for sale here.

Those are the only two I have European listing for in my notes. I hadn't heard that the fancy King Arthur was a special run for Sharper Image. The fancy Lancelot is what is listed in the catalogs; maybe the plain version was also a special order for some company.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 17, 2013, 09:24:59 AM
Hi

Just a knife picture for you

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=48794;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on April 17, 2013, 10:04:35 AM
  That an Elk or Caribou tooth as a fob? Don't see that style past the mountain folk. First time seeing one suspended via paracord, but only makes sense - leather does become brittle over the many seasons.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 17, 2013, 10:39:10 AM
  That an Elk or Caribou tooth as a fob? Don't see that style past the mountain folk. First time seeing one suspended via paracord, but only makes sense - leather does become brittle over the many seasons.

Hi :)

I just put it on the picture, maybe i will have it on a keychain. Just as a charm.
It is just the tip of a large whale tooth, i am against whaling :) I respect the huge animal but i am not sure what whale? The tooth complete 15cm long.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 17, 2013, 10:47:54 AM

PS maybe off topic with whaling:

It is part of the environment and the history behind it is brutal. Better today but there is not much whaling left here in this country. It seems there are more animals and many whales further north.

There is a fine line with the sea, man need fish to eat. The whales eat the fish aswell, maybe people in the future may have to harvest or kill whales to have enough fish to eat.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 17, 2013, 12:19:12 PM
Nice picture North Man!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 17, 2013, 02:49:19 PM

thank you :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 22, 2013, 03:43:55 PM
Some interesting knives I bought from Japan.
Not 100% sure about the black Motorist, but for the others I suspect they were only sold in Japan.
Top view pictures on the wiki.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on April 22, 2013, 04:43:36 PM
Very nice pictures and SAKs. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 22, 2013, 05:30:30 PM
Playing around with my 78.  Such a perfect knife.  Get one before they are gone!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 22, 2013, 09:01:00 PM
Some interesting knives I bought from Japan.
Not 100% sure about the black Motorist, but for the others I suspect they were only sold in Japan.
Top view pictures on the wiki.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801)

Some great looking stuff there!  :tu:

How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 23, 2013, 09:06:09 AM

Some great looking stuff there!  :tu:

How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.

Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 23, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
Super knifes.
my congratulations
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 23, 2013, 09:40:28 PM

Some great looking stuff there!  :tu:

How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.

Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)

Made another attempt. Set up an account with Amazon Japan. Ordered two Wengers and three Vics. Went to pay for them and all had a message saying they could not be shipped to my area. Probably the fourth time I've tried a Japanese dealer, and all with the same negative results.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 24, 2013, 01:38:57 AM

Some great looking stuff there!  :tu:

How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.

Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)

Has anyone actually dealt with Tenso?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 25, 2013, 12:33:41 AM
Some interesting knives I bought from Japan.
Not 100% sure about the black Motorist, but for the others I suspect they were only sold in Japan.
Top view pictures on the wiki.

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2796)

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2798)

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2800)

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801 (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2801)

Those are fabulous!    LOVE the black scales with the imprints.  :drool:   Congradulatons on some great knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on April 25, 2013, 12:58:41 AM
It Wenger SGT Fix-It was bought a year ago.
There was a usual instruction of Wenger

 :D @ Fix-It

Now, seriously, very nice SAK!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 25, 2013, 02:34:44 AM

Some great looking stuff there!  :tu:

How did you get knives out of Japan? Every time I've tried I've been told they can't ship because of a) Japanese regulations, b) US regulations, and/or c) Victorinox regulations.

Thanks!
I honestly did not have any problems, and I'm pretty sure that japanese regulations do allow export of knives.
For shops not willing to ship internationally there is this service, which seems to be quite popular
http://http://www.tenso.com/en/
I registered there, but had no need to use it (so can't really give an opinion)

Has anyone actually dealt with Tenso?

Went to register with Tenso, and their agreement said they could share my data with anyone for any reason. Pass on that. Guess I won't be getting any knives from Japan in the near future.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on April 26, 2013, 08:17:31 AM
Any members in Japan?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 26, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
With much surprise, I found the original image patterns used for the hardwoods, ap balze and snow camo models.
As you can see, the new snow pattern is exactly the same as the orange "ap blaze", with just different colors.  :D :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 27, 2013, 09:37:19 AM
Still using my AP Blaze 10 for EDC. Not easy to see on picture, however it hold just fine. Just some smoother surface. See the different pattern or different part of it.
The bottom one is the EDC one  :)

Also another on my knives, by luck i found an older Mora Carbon blade, 70s or 80s they are 3,5mm to almost 3,8mm thick at the tip..

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=49423;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 27, 2013, 02:48:30 PM
Good combination of knives, SAKs do work so well outdoors in combination with a good fixed-blade.

My latest treasure is an 82mm 2-layer Wenger.  Whoever was in charge at the time they made this knife seems to know their stuff as it is top quality.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 28, 2013, 09:37:14 AM
Good combination of knives, SAKs do work so well outdoors in combination with a good fixed-blade.

My latest treasure is an 82mm 2-layer Wenger.  Whoever was in charge at the time they made this knife seems to know their stuff as it is top quality.

lovely find :tu:
Absolutely they knew/know their stuff :),
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 28, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
Nice pictures and knives!



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 29, 2013, 11:32:46 AM
I found two interesting old brochures.
One is for the Lithos written in german.
The other is titled "Argyros" and is about the Sterling and Imperial models.
@ Francis: I would upload them directly to the wiki, but I can't see the option.
In fact, I am only allowed to upload pictures to the knives gallery, but not to the catalog section.
I also don't see any option to make small edits.
Anyway, here are the pictures
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 29, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
more Lithos
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 29, 2013, 11:34:28 AM
Argyros
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 29, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
I found two interesting old brochures.
One is for the Lithos written in german.
The other is titled "Argyros" and is about the Sterling and Imperial models.
@ Francis: I would upload them directly to the wiki, but I can't see the option.
In fact, I am only allowed to upload pictures to the knives gallery, but not to the catalog section.
I also don't see any option to make small edits.
Anyway, here are the pictures

very nice Basilio :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on April 29, 2013, 12:24:58 PM
Good combination of knives, SAKs do work so well outdoors in combination with a good fixed-blade.

My latest treasure is an 82mm 2-layer Wenger.  Whoever was in charge at the time they made this knife seems to know their stuff as it is top quality.

Yes i also feel a fixed blade and a SAK go hand in hand, actually the handle i made on the 70s or 80s Mora is inspired some from a SAK aswell. Different layers of wood is not new, however a SAK is a layer design. So it did fit my idea. Every part is glued to eachother and to the tang. I used a bolt in the back to tighten and to peen some aswell. And one can use the SAK in the making of a handle aswell if one want.
I also got some inspirations from the Argyros today, i will see if i can put on some metal on the next knife. It will be in a few months since fishing is for this summer.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 30, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
I found two interesting old brochures.
One is for the Lithos written in german.
The other is titled "Argyros" and is about the Sterling and Imperial models.
@ Francis: I would upload them directly to the wiki, but I can't see the option.
In fact, I am only allowed to upload pictures to the knives gallery, but not to the catalog section.
I also don't see any option to make small edits.
Anyway, here are the pictures
That's a great find.   :tu:   :salute:

You should be able to upload them to the wenger catalog gallery (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70) just as you would to any othe open gallery.  If not I'll put them somewhere, need to reorganize that gallery a bit; maybe consolidate the single pages into a sub-gallery.  Were you trying to put them somewhere else?

What do you mean by small edits? to you mean to image names and descriptions?  That might be restricted, but you should be able to edit the pages.

if you have higher resolution images it would be great if you emailed them to me.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 30, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
That's a great find.   :tu:   :salute:

You should be able to upload them to the wenger catalog gallery (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70) just as you would to any othe open gallery.  If not I'll put them somewhere, need to reorganize that gallery a bit; maybe consolidate the single pages into a sub-gallery.  Were you trying to put them somewhere else?

What do you mean by small edits? to you mean to image names and descriptions?  That might be restricted, but you should be able to edit the pages.

if you have higher resolution images it would be great if you emailed them to me.

Francis,
I read in the Wiki FAQ that
"How do I edit pages?
You need to login to the wiki. Look for the edit icon on the top right of each page, or the "edit" button on the bottom left of each page".
My problem is that I don't see the "edit icon" or the "edit button" on the pages.
Also, is there a way to upload more than 6 images at once?
Anyway, here are the hi-res pictures, but you will need to crop them

Lithos

https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Lithos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCOe-md7CvuOAFQ&feat=directlink

Argyros

https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Argyros?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLXv2IO42rPhYg&feat=directlink
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: hugh_h on April 30, 2013, 11:48:29 AM
I have a Wenger Ranger that I received as a Christmas present. I love the look and feel of the black rubberized grips. The knife blade flips open easily and smoothly, and the knife feels good in your hand. This is the knife I carry when I know I'm going to need to use a knife that day or to use the bottle opener. There are many days that I have some activity at the kids' school, so I don't use this knife for EDC, because the letter of the law is that knives aren't allowed at schools. This is large enough to attract attention from people who have a hard time distinguishing a "tool" from a "weapon."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 30, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
That's a great find.   :tu:   :salute:

You should be able to upload them to the wenger catalog gallery (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70) just as you would to any othe open gallery.  If not I'll put them somewhere, need to reorganize that gallery a bit; maybe consolidate the single pages into a sub-gallery.  Were you trying to put them somewhere else?

What do you mean by small edits? to you mean to image names and descriptions?  That might be restricted, but you should be able to edit the pages.

if you have higher resolution images it would be great if you emailed them to me.

Francis,
I read in the Wiki FAQ that
"How do I edit pages?
You need to login to the wiki. Look for the edit icon on the top right of each page, or the "edit" button on the bottom left of each page".
My problem is that I don't see the "edit icon" or the "edit button" on the pages.
Also, is there a way to upload more than 6 images at once?
Anyway, here are the hi-res pictures, but you will need to crop them

Lithos

https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Lithos?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCOe-md7CvuOAFQ&feat=directlink

Argyros

https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Argyros?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLXv2IO42rPhYg&feat=directlink
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself.   If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on. 

I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 30, 2013, 12:47:23 PM
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself.   If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on. 

I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
Francis,
you can upload the images directly to the wiki.
I was only asking as a way to help you.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 30, 2013, 01:15:27 PM
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself.   If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on. 

I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
Francis,
you can upload the images directly to the wiki.
I was only asking as a way to help you.
You should be all set for edits.  If I send them to you though then your contribution is noted better than in the image desc, not that you'll get famous or anything  :).   I can always move them around later as I often do.

As per your question about uploading more than 6 images at a time, I have not found a browser that will do a batch upload although it is implied in the wiki upload that it is possible.  It's probbaly a bad idea anyway incase there was a mistake.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 30, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
Let me check your account status, at one point anyone who had edited a page was given edit permissions, but the default changed to no edit for security reasons. There is some info in the wiki thread, but I'll update the info on the wiki itself.   If you have never edited a page before that is likely the reason, and I'll fix you up the next time I'm on. 

I processed the small pictures anD they benefit a lot so I would not upload the set of images shown here. I'll look at the larger size, but will like just email you back the processed smaller images for upload.
Francis,
you can upload the images directly to the wiki.
I was only asking as a way to help you.
You should be all set for edits.  If I send them to you though then your contribution is noted better than in the image desc, not that you'll get famous or anything  :).   I can always move them around later as I often do.

As per your question about uploading more than 6 images at a time, I have not found a browser that will do a batch upload although it is implied in the wiki upload that it is possible.  It's probbaly a bad idea anyway incase there was a mistake.

Thanks, but I couldn't care less about people noting my contribution! :D
The only important thing is that the images are on the wiki
About the images uploading: how, for example, did you upload all the 1995 catalog images in a single "folder"?
What I did notice, for example, when uploading pictures of knives, is that you have to "invert" the order. Just say you want to upload 5 pictures in this order: 1-2-3-4-5; you will have to start from picture 5 to picture 1, so 5-4-3-2-1.
Sorry for the small off-topic about the wiki! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 01, 2013, 03:33:34 AM
OK I'll talk to you about Wiki stuff in PM to keep it out of this thread.  I'm going to be uploading The Lithos Series Brochure in a few minutes.  I reprocessed the large files.

Update: German Lithos Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=103)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 01, 2013, 10:51:19 AM
OK I'll talk to you about Wiki stuff in PM to keep it out of this thread.  I'm going to be uploading The Lithos Series Brochure in a few minutes.  I reprocessed the large files.

Update: German Lithos Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=103)

Thanks!

UPDATE ON THE EVOHUNTER 505

Since I wanted to investigate a little more about the markets were this knife was sold, I sent an email to Wenger.
As usual, after few hours I got an answer, written in perfect italian by the Wenger Sales Assistant.
Here is part of the email, transated by me:

"Congratulations for this rare acquisition.
In fact, of that knife were produced only 500 pieces.
Initially, the knife was produced for the Czech Republic (300 units). Then, 200 additional units were produced, which were sold in different countries: Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Hong Kong and Venezuela
."


I think that the above informations only refer to the model with the standard red scales, because I saw the same knife with the new snow camo pattern for sale in the Czech Republic (catalog 1.505.059.806).

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/649/evohuntersnow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/evohuntersnow.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 01, 2013, 12:19:46 PM

I like it  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 01, 2013, 09:45:23 PM
OK I'll talk to you about Wiki stuff in PM to keep it out of this thread.  I'm going to be uploading The Lithos Series Brochure in a few minutes.  I reprocessed the large files.

Update: German Lithos Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=103)

Thanks!

UPDATE ON THE EVOHUNTER 505

Since I wanted to investigate a little more about the markets were this knife was sold, I sent an email to Wenger.
As usual, after few hours I got an answer, written in perfect italian by the Wenger Sales Assistant.
Here is part of the email, transated by me:

"Congratulations for this rare acquisition.
In fact, of that knife were produced only 500 pieces.
Initially, the knife was produced for the Czech Republic (300 units). Then, 200 additional units were produced, which were sold in different countries: Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Hong Kong and Venezuela
."


I think that the above informations only refer to the model with the standard red scales, because I saw the same knife with the new snow camo pattern for sale in the Czech Republic (catalog 1.505.059.806).

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/649/evohuntersnow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/evohuntersnow.jpg/)

Got a plain-Jane red when I could have gotten that!  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 02, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
Wenger Sterling Series Brochure (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=104)  (based on initial low-res cropped pages as they seemed good enough)

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 02, 2013, 07:33:50 PM

Quote

I think that the above informations only refer to the model with the standard red scales, because I saw the same knife with the new snow camo pattern for sale in the Czech Republic (catalog 1.505.059.806).

(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/649/evohuntersnow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/evohuntersnow.jpg/)

Did someone see this knife in real? To me it looks photoshoped  :whistle:   :D

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 02, 2013, 09:41:30 PM


Did someone see this knife in real? To me it looks photoshoped  :whistle:   :D

I think the image could be.
The knife, however, is listed on the czech wenger website
http://www.wengercz.cz/
as "made for the Czech Republic "
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on May 03, 2013, 02:36:03 AM
Heads up to everyone, I am giving away a nib SI over on the break room forum as my 500th post swag.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 04, 2013, 07:15:53 PM
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ULk-UvICos/UYU-OajASAI/AAAAAAAAHDQ/foleVwxpa3M/s640/DSCN2690_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iN5-KTUQRUs/UYU-OevI1HI/AAAAAAAAHDc/cdIK_354sBI/s800/DSCN2668_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 04, 2013, 11:25:27 PM
Here's another Swiss Alpine Club model, basically an EvoWood Cyclist.

http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvZXZvLXdvb2QtbWVzc2VyLW1pdC1zYWMtbG9nby5odG1s

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 05, 2013, 11:05:46 PM
Very nice pictures!
I had not been a great fan of the wood scales (just because of personal taste), but I have always loved the contrast between the red shield and the wood around it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 05, 2013, 11:07:54 PM
Nice photos of the SAC Ranger, I've been thinking about getting the new SAC knives, just trying to fit them into an order.

I recently got a pretty nice vintage Vic Cracked Ice scaled knife, and then a Wenger one pops up.

Again this older Wenger 82mm is very good quality.  Still tight and great snap, solid thick nickel-silver liners and spacer, and it looks to have a forged and hand worked corkscrew that is only partially polished on the outer edges, but lots of machining marks. Small clippoint is also stamped Wenger Tahara, but the scales unfortunately have started to warp in a few places which is typical for this material.  Love the crossbow shield which we've seen on a few older wengers, it is well inlayed on this example.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on May 06, 2013, 03:10:44 AM
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC

 :drool:

Great SAK!!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on May 06, 2013, 02:58:09 PM
Hello
My last SAK
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 06, 2013, 03:41:18 PM


I recently got a pretty nice vintage Vic Cracked Ice scaled knife, and then a Wenger one pops up.


The inlayed shield is beautiful!

Hello
My last SAK

Good catch on the Evohunter and the oboes  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 06, 2013, 11:33:19 PM
Hello
My last SAK

Great  :tu:

The Oboe is cool  :)  never seen this one before. Thanks for showing.

Also available in red  ;)
http://www.oboes.ch/index.php/en/swiss-knives-2
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on May 10, 2013, 08:57:00 PM
Hello
My last SAK
Nice!  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 11, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
A Wengerinox older style Fondue fork.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=50254;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 16, 2013, 06:33:09 PM
Excellent. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 16, 2013, 11:59:52 PM
A Wengerinox older style Fondue fork.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=50254;image)

Enjoy your meal! ... I mean Enjoy your Fondue :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 18, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
Nice finds!

My latest Wenger is the Evolution 18, also i sad it would be some months until the next fixed knife :) Been much fishing but i had fun again making a handle.

This handle took time, i had picked some wood in the nature. Its been dried, i had a Martiinii blade from the 80s( i guess). This blade was in rough shape, the metal bolster part may be as much as 80 years old and made by a special People. I used a part from a very damaged knife, so now it is a sturdy camping knife. Did fit wood inside the bolster.

Had the wood to rest some before the final sanding and Danish oil.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=50629;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 18, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
 Ranger 38-38

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5RBmHW44KaE/UZeXFMJs8tI/AAAAAAAAHVE/7vM8RYP5pnI/s800/DSCN3154_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3q9iyzx0gM/UZeVMykWhnI/AAAAAAAAHTs/ZEfcHfRCue8/s800/DSCN3125_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 18, 2013, 08:43:27 PM
Northman; Super job on that handle and restoring the old knife andf retaining the special bolser.  It looks really nice. 

Vic7K, that's a great find, looks like they are using up some left over pieces withe that blade from the Alinghi and that marine driver.  Looks like Wenger is starting to run out of some parts already, or at least no more for production, don't know if they plan to save some for repairs.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 25, 2013, 10:20:39 AM
Missed these last posts.
Very nice pictures and knives!
---------
Does anybody have an idea about the catalog number of this Golfer sold by Eddie Bauer?
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2854)
I would need the information for the wiki
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on May 25, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
Ranger 38-38

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5RBmHW44KaE/UZeXFMJs8tI/AAAAAAAAHVE/7vM8RYP5pnI/s800/DSCN3154_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r3q9iyzx0gM/UZeVMykWhnI/AAAAAAAAHTs/ZEfcHfRCue8/s800/DSCN3125_r.jpg)

This looks like a crossbreed of teh 120 and 130 mm Wengers.
Did you buy this knife recently as a new one or has it maybe been made in teh transition phase between old and new Rangers?

And, does this knife hint us taht old and new Ranger parts are mixable?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on May 25, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
Ranger 38-38


This looks like a crossbreed of teh 120 and 130 mm Wengers.
Did you buy this knife recently as a new one or has it maybe been made in teh transition phase between old and new Rangers?

And, does this knife hint us taht old and new Ranger parts are mixable?

I bought it recently new, but on the box it says 03/2011, so I think it was produced in March 2011.
I suppose it was made to use up old Ranger parts and to reduce the stock of some older parts.  :think:



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 26, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Wenger likes orange!  Maybe that's why we don't see too many Vics in orange.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51074;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 26, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
...and Pink?

 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51076;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on May 26, 2013, 11:54:49 PM
That really is a contrary looking tool! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 27, 2013, 10:55:05 AM
Wenger likes orange!  Maybe that's why we don't see too many Vics in orange.


Nice pictures!
Yes Wenger likes orange, but unfortunately only few models are available in this color (and only in Europe, as far as I can tell).
I really like this color and I prefer it over the Yellow in the RangerGrip configuration.
Is your RangerGrip the model 79 (with saw) or 61 (without)?
As for the pink...well, it would be interesting to know at which consumer market they were aiming, as I don't see the possibility of many ladies using such a big knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 27, 2013, 04:32:44 PM

Nice knives :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cowsmilk on May 27, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/27/a4y7upad.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 27, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.

How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman  (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors.  :-\


(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cowsmilk on May 27, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.

How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman  (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors.  :-\


(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg)
my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)

And yes, the lock partially blocks scissors access.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 27, 2013, 05:19:10 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.

How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman  (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors.  :-\


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg

my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)

And yes, the lock partially blocks scissors access.


Let me introduce you to PTRSAK. :P
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41486.msg662232.html#msg662232

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20121220_204802_zps956df845.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cowsmilk on May 27, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.
I also have the S18 for my daily carry. The locking blade feature works well.

How do you like the Evo scales? The 17/18 Wenger are one of my favorite SAKs but I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales of the Forester (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester)/Handyman  (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Handyman)better. Also while it's nice to have the lock, it kind of hinders the access to the scissors.  :-\


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg (http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/PC100015.jpg)

my only complaint on the scales is that they are not made of carbon fiber.;-)

And yes, the lock partially blocks scissors access.


Let me introduce you to PTRSAK. :P
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41486.msg662232.html#msg662232 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41486.msg662232.html#msg662232)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20121220_204802_zps956df845.jpg)
Wow! Thanks for that link.:))
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 28, 2013, 09:11:11 AM
I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales

Couldn't agree more.
Have you see my "classic" S557?
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43595.msg718695.html#msg718695
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 28, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
I never could get on with the Evo scales. I prefer the classic slim scales

Couldn't agree more.
Have you see my "classic" S557?
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43595.msg718695.html#msg718695

Yes, I have. :D I've been following that thread since the beginning. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on May 29, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
My latest Wenger:

(http://i41.tinypic.com/14ioooz.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 29, 2013, 09:47:31 PM
Is that an EKA Esquire? Nice. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vladimir on May 29, 2013, 09:57:50 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 30, 2013, 12:04:59 AM
Someone did a pretty decent job of putting rosewood grips on a Wenger Pointer; then proceded to use it fairly extensively. Cleaned up nicely.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 30, 2013, 01:22:54 AM
Wenger likes orange!  Maybe that's why we don't see too many Vics in orange.


Nice pictures!
Yes Wenger likes orange, but unfortunately only few models are available in this color (and only in Europe, as far as I can tell).
I really like this color and I prefer it over the Yellow in the RangerGrip configuration.
Is your RangerGrip the model 79 (with saw) or 61 (without)?
As for the pink...well, it would be interesting to know at which consumer market they were aiming, as I don't see the possibility of many ladies using such a big knife.
I prefer the orange to the yellow as well.  Must have been the result of some flawed market survey on color, or they really wanted to reserve the orange or the special edition one in the Squadron set.

The Orange Ranger is a 61, I don't think I have a 79 version yet.  I bought it to transplant the scales actually.  I probably won't get the 79 in Orange, but I have another 61 to keep stock.

I think the Pink was a pretty good move for Wenger, I think a lot of Women hikers would really like the pink one and folded it's not that big of a knife if your into outdoor camping.  ... maybe you guessed I'll be transplanting the scales to increase the general contrast of the knife even more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 30, 2013, 05:04:21 PM
My latest Wenger:
Nice!

Someone did a pretty decent job of putting rosewood grips on a Wenger Pointer; then proceded to use it fairly extensively. Cleaned up nicely.

Looks nice!
Love the worn feel of the handles.

I bought it to transplant the scales actually ................ I'll be transplanting the scales to increase the general contrast of the knife even more.
Remember to show us the results!
I think it is just too bad that Wenger never used the orange EvoGrip scales on the smaller 85mm knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Theron on May 31, 2013, 01:01:08 PM
After spending some time with both, I prefer the Wenger Rangers over anything Victorinox makes.
Victorinox SwissTools are great, but I prefer Wenger SAKs.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on May 31, 2013, 03:23:39 PM
My latest Wenger:

These are  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 01, 2013, 12:42:44 AM
.....
I bought it to transplant the scales actually ................ I'll be transplanting the scales to increase the general contrast of the knife even more.
Remember to show us the results!
I think it is just too bad that Wenger never used the orange EvoGrip scales on the smaller 85mm knives.

Yes, it is too bad no 85mm models yet... but there is still time... cross your fingers.... if they're willing to do pink in 85mm you would think they just need a little encouragement to do orange.   :D
 
It will be awhile before my transplants are shown, they are part of a bigger set I'm assembling, but eventually hopefully all SAKs get some time in front of the camera.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 01, 2013, 08:14:08 PM
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.

I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 01, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
I'm pretty sure they're Wengers. The imitation pearl is only marked 'inoxidable', while the imitation horn is marked 'Wenger / Tahara'.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 02, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.

I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)

Very nice set!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 02, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.

I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)
Love the shield on these!  :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 02, 2013, 10:51:52 PM


Very nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kahyja on June 03, 2013, 08:11:53 AM

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)

Very nice, I like to see a ''Group'' shot like this  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Outback in Idaho on June 04, 2013, 07:19:08 PM
  Received a reply from an older email that I had forgotten about.

Quote from: Robert Elsener
Thank you very much for your e-mail and participation on Baselworld 2013. I am sorry not to have replied earlier, which I greatly regret.

We will certainly keep the more unique Wenger tools. However, I am sorry that I cannot give you any information on new product lines at the moment. We will keep our customers informed via the media on time. Thank you very much for your understanding and patience.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 05, 2013, 04:11:58 AM
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.

A little cross-post here.  With some Wenger history that seems forgotten.  More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC.  Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price  :)). 

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43126.0;attach=51537;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 05, 2013, 05:41:35 AM
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.

A little cross-post here.  With some Wenger history that seems forgotten.  More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC.  Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price  :)). 

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43126.0;attach=51537;image)

Outstanding score! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 05, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.

A little cross-post here.  With some Wenger history that seems forgotten.  More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC.  Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price  :)). 


Really an unusual find, congratulations!  :tu:
I saw the auction: too bad that the blade was abused so much.
Because of this, I was not expecting this knife to be sold as such a premium price.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on June 05, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p2kj23xT3ko/Ua9wnGyddSI/AAAAAAAAHgQ/2nerQPBUxkk/s800/DSCN3600_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dhuDLIZWluo/Ua9wnG2BBsI/AAAAAAAAHgU/fW1cPPKQjFw/s800/DSCN3607_r.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on June 06, 2013, 01:12:52 AM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:

Excellent!  :cheers:

Now I need to go and look for these myself :) That small blade, orange and snow camo...  :drool: Just why not EvoWood too.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 06, 2013, 01:15:56 AM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:

Excellent!  :cheers:

Now I need to go and look for these myself :) That small blade, orange and snow camo...  :drool: Just why not EvoWood too.
+1  :cheers:   I love this configuration.  EvoWood would have been killer.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 06, 2013, 01:22:02 AM
Very interested to see how this merging of the Swiss Knives turns out.

A little cross-post here.  With some Wenger history that seems forgotten.  More pics at a leter date after it gets some TLC.  Wenger 3-Layers Hobo style (one of the previous owners of this knife treated it very badly, I know they paid a price  :)). 


Really an unusual find, congratulations!  :tu:
I saw the auction: too bad that the blade was abused so much.
Because of this, I was not expecting this knife to be sold as such a premium price.
Ya looks like only 3 people thought it was really worth something, and one of them was the seller.

I had to ignore the blade, because I've never heard of this moldel before and I think few others have as well. The rest of the tool is in excellent condition.  Seems like a modder or Wenger might be able to replace the blade, especially if I can find the same one in a knife and remove it.  Even if I never do that though I'm happy with the deal (yes because I'm SAK crazy).  Something interesting to explore.

Of course if a batch of these turn up now that people know what to look for, this one won't be worth much, but I'll be able to buy another nicer one and still be happy.

This will be a fun project, perfect for expanding my sharpening experience and testing my new shapening jig mods.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 06, 2013, 09:50:47 AM
Ya looks like only 3 people thought it was really worth something, and one of them was the seller.

I had to ignore the blade, because I've never heard of this moldel before and I think few others have as well. The rest of the tool is in excellent condition.  Seems like a modder or Wenger might be able to replace the blade, especially if I can find the same one in a knife and remove it.  Even if I never do that though I'm happy with the deal (yes because I'm SAK crazy).  Something interesting to explore.

Of course if a batch of these turn up now that people know what to look for, this one won't be worth much, but I'll be able to buy another nicer one and still be happy.

This will be a fun project, perfect for expanding my sharpening experience and testing my new shapening jig mods.

I think that the possibility of more of this kind of knife to show up is quite small, so you made a great purchase in my opinion.
Sometime is just better to buy what you really like than to spend weeks regretting why you didn't.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 06, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p2kj23xT3ko/Ua9wnGyddSI/AAAAAAAAHgQ/2nerQPBUxkk/s800/DSCN3600_r.jpg)


So you see now that the EvoHunter Snow is a real knife..... :D
Great score there, congratulations! :tu:
Never heard about the ap blaze version.
Now, for the "wiki" part.
Would you mind uploading this picture to the wiki gallery, or let me upload it with proper credits?
Could you also check for the catalog numbers (on the box labels) of both the snow and ap blaze?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on June 06, 2013, 02:44:15 PM
Very nice stuff all :tu:

Because I am being lazy, can someone tell me what that evil looking blade in the Evohunter is designed for?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 06, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Hi, yep much interesting Pictures and knives shown.

My latest Wenger is 1 62 41 , not opened since the factory. The Ap Blaze is still EDC and the scales are high quality!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51604;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on June 06, 2013, 05:06:33 PM
Cool Wenger Hobo, ColoSwiss.  When do you figure it was made?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on June 06, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:


So you see now that the EvoHunter Snow is a real knife..... :D
Great score there, congratulations! :tu:
Never heard about the ap blaze version.
Now, for the "wiki" part.
Would you mind uploading this picture to the wiki gallery, or let me upload it with proper credits?
Could you also check for the catalog numbers (on the box labels) of both the snow and ap blaze?

Yes. Now I believe you. This was the only reason for me to order this snow, to be sure it really exists. :D

Please feel free to upload the pic to wiki. The numbers are:
red: 1.505.059.300
Blaze: 1.505.059.804
Snow: 1.505.059.806

If someone wants to know my French source for these three, just send me a PM.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 06, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
Very nice stuff all :tu:

Because I am being lazy, can someone tell me what that evil looking blade in the Evohunter is designed for?
It is a small "gutting blade", according to the wiki used to "to cut open the stomach cavity of any animal brought down by a hunter in the field"... something we all do everyday.... :D
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Knife+Blade#Small_Gutting_Blade

My latest Wenger is 1 62 41 , not opened since the factory. The Ap Blaze is still EDC and the scales are high quality!
Nice!
I saw few of these very same blisters in a shop last year while I was on holiday in the Alps, but the price was too high.


Yes. Now I believe you. This was the only reason for me to order this snow, to be sure it really exists. :D

Please feel free to upload the pic to wiki. The numbers are:
red: 1.505.059.300
Blaze: 1.505.059.804
Snow: 1.505.059.806

If someone wants to know my French source for these three, just send me a PM.
hehe.... :D
Thanks for the informations.
I think the EvoHunter wiki page is really in need of an edit
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 07, 2013, 12:22:45 AM
Evo Hunters ....   :mail:


So you see now that the EvoHunter Snow is a real knife..... :D
Great score there, congratulations! :tu:
Never heard about the ap blaze version.
Now, for the "wiki" part.
Would you mind uploading this picture to the wiki gallery, or let me upload it with proper credits?
Could you also check for the catalog numbers (on the box labels) of both the snow and ap blaze?

Yes. Now I believe you. This was the only reason for me to order this snow, to be sure it really exists. :D

Please feel free to upload the pic to wiki. The numbers are:
red: 1.505.059.300
Blaze: 1.505.059.804
Snow: 1.505.059.806

If someone wants to know my French source for these three, just send me a PM.
I'm guessing they did not sell all of the ones they made, and they just put new scales on some, rather than making an addtional run.  Maybe Wenger can confirm, it would be great to know. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 07, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
hehe.... :D
Thanks for the informations.
I think the EvoHunter wiki page is really in need of an edit

You are more than welcome to edit the pages on sakwiki. You are more than qualified and very knowledgeable in SAKs and I'm sure Francis would welcome a bit of help especially on the Wenger pages. There are lots of pages that still need to be written and we can't expect Francis to do all the work. It's not that hard to make a page or edit it and there are also templates to make the job easier. :salute:

EDIT: I see you've been quite busy helping out already. :D Very nice. :cheers: I as a Wenger fan appreciate it a lot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 07, 2013, 12:28:42 AM
Cool Wenger Hobo, ColoSwiss.  When do you figure it was made?

ICFT is the lucky owner, not me.  That's about the third or fourth I've seen; pretty rare.  It's so different from anything else Wenger has done that I wonder if they actually made it, or if it was made for them by some other company. It's marked 'Abercromby & Fitch'; when were they importing Wengers?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 07, 2013, 07:52:41 AM
Posted this over in a Picnic sets thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44848.msg736492.html#msg736492) but it should get some well deserved time here in the Wenger thread too. This appears to be some issued kit to soldiers. It is an interlocking spoon and fork with Wengerinox and "58" on he back of the spoon handle.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CKxqLC4BvCs/UbFzAN80rHI/AAAAAAAAerg/byq74FC5gd8/s800/Wengerinox%2520Spoon%2520and%2520Fork-06.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F2_98T2zT3k/UbFy_GBls6I/AAAAAAAAerI/VwQd9goan7M/s800/Wengerinox%2520Spoon%2520and%2520Fork-03.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1mK8IkbgEBU/UbFy-eUSmRI/AAAAAAAAeq8/UpeSxnX5RXw/s800/Wengerinox%2520Spoon%2520and%2520Fork-01.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 07, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
I'm guessing they did not sell all of the ones they made, and they just put new scales on some, rather than making an addtional run.  Maybe Wenger can confirm, it would be great to know.

I think the same and will try to get the information.


You are more than welcome to edit the pages on sakwiki. You are more than qualified and very knowledgeable in SAKs and I'm sure Francis would welcome a bit of help especially on the Wenger pages. There are lots of pages that still need to be written and we can't expect Francis to do all the work. It's not that hard to make a page or edit it and there are also templates to make the job easier. :salute:

EDIT: I see you've been quite busy helping out already. :D Very nice. :cheers: I as a Wenger fan appreciate it a lot.
Thanks, but most of my knowledge (which is very limited to only what I really like to collect) came from reading other member messages here.
Francis is basically my "wiki mentor" and was so kind to explain me how the software (which is not all that user friendly) works.
Still, I did only made very small edits.

Posted this over in a Picnic sets thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44848.msg736492.html#msg736492) but it should get some well deserved time here in the Wenger thread too. This appears to be some issued kit to soldiers. It is an interlocking spoon and fork with Wengerinox and "58" on he back of the spoon handle.

Interesting!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 07, 2013, 05:38:36 PM
I was discussing with Francis about how to implement the wiki with the Tactile models, 811 and 812.
Now, while searching a found a link to an old EDC Source auction closed back in 2010.
Here is a link
http://www.edcsource.com/auction_details.php?name=Drop%20Point%20%20Swiss%20Auction&auction_id=105158
Now look closely at the third picture
The catalog page (with a very similar design to the 1992-1995 one), shows a third (65mm size) knife in the Tactile line, with a catalog 1.81.11.813 and with (I suppose) red neoprene scales.
The knife name could be Tactile 813.
Any idea?
Does anybody know the EDC seller? Perhaps he still has the catalog picture in a bigger size.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 07, 2013, 06:09:30 PM
...
Does anybody know the EDC seller? Perhaps he still has the catalog picture in a bigger size.

Here's his profile: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=43
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 07, 2013, 11:15:46 PM
...
Does anybody know the EDC seller? Perhaps he still has the catalog picture in a bigger size.

Here's his profile: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=43

Thanks!
I sent him a PM.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 08, 2013, 12:27:09 AM
Wenger Tactile 813 (with standard red Esquire). The Tactile has a matte red neoprene handle. Tried to take an indoor shot, but the color didn't really show properly.

Catalog number is: 1.81.11.813. Sold by Swissknife (Heidi Shop) for 19.80 SF / $15.84. Don't have a date.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 08, 2013, 01:01:12 AM
Posted this over in a Picnic sets thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44848.msg736492.html#msg736492) but it should get some well deserved time here in the Wenger thread too. This appears to be some issued kit to soldiers. It is an interlocking spoon and fork with Wengerinox and "58" on he back of the spoon handle.

Interesting!
+1  58 might not represent the year, but if it does that would make if very interesting.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 08, 2013, 01:02:05 AM
Wenger Tactile 813 (with standard red Esquire). The Tactile has a matte red neoprene handle. Tried to take an indoor shot, but the color didn't really show properly.

Catalog number is: 1.81.11.813. Sold by Swissknife (Heidi Shop) for 19.80 SF / $15.84. Don't have a date.
That looks really nice.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 08, 2013, 01:10:25 AM
Wenger Tactiles (more or less).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 08, 2013, 06:09:19 PM
Wenger Tactile 813 (with standard red Esquire). The Tactile has a matte red neoprene handle. Tried to take an indoor shot, but the color didn't really show properly.

Catalog number is: 1.81.11.813. Sold by Swissknife (Heidi Shop) for 19.80 SF / $15.84. Don't have a date.

Thanks!
I was pretty close.... :D
I made a visit  to a local shop today, and the 2005 dealer's catalog (which I sadly don't own) shows all the three Tactiles.
The shop owner is going to make a copy of this page for me.
Will post when available.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 08, 2013, 08:49:52 PM
Just playing with some Swiss Stuff.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51746;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on June 09, 2013, 12:05:56 AM
 Nice toys  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 09, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
Very nice Francis!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nuphoria on June 09, 2013, 08:36:35 PM
Thanks for the gutting hook info basilio... couldn't remember the purpose of them at all!

Now I know, I'm going to panic if I catch my cat hiding one :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 15, 2013, 03:49:45 PM
Hello,
today I found a Evo 63 Blackout SoftTouch in a local shop.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2876)
Is (or was) this model really exclusive to the Australian market?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree
The shop owner told me he had three (this was the last one) and that he came across them way before the Blackout models (with EvoGrip scales) were available.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 15, 2013, 04:08:57 PM
And this is an additional find, for quite a good price (approximately € 30/knife).
"The Life" set Vallotton-Saugy.
The set was unfortunately missing all the certificates.
With the help of a very kind forum member, I was able to create some very nice facsimiles to put in the box.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: charlie fox on June 15, 2013, 04:37:47 PM
I've only owned one; a Nomad. I found it well made and liked the locking blade, but I could never really warm up to it. I gifted it on a mission trip to one of our translators. I'm sure its getting much mord use now thank would have given it.

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on June 15, 2013, 07:39:53 PM
Any info about this knife?
It's a commander with metal scales with print similar to the ones from the serie "The Life". It's also numbered.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wXbGrt06EW0/UbylxaugSLI/AAAAAAAAHmo/eVLnteSR9Mw/s800/DSCN3669_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AEw88OSm6vw/Ubylxj77uuI/AAAAAAAAHmw/iY8FnvE-B5M/s800/DSCN3670_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mZZbO-A9uqE/Ubylx-04z-I/AAAAAAAAHm0/Elgyy_YNhAQ/s800/DSCN3671_r.jpg)

https://picasaweb.google.com/114771380811023687526/DiverseWenger?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 15, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
Nice! Never seen that one before.  :tu:

Comparing it with the ones in the 'Life' series, the level of detail (trees, grass, etc.) appears slightly less and its not signed by the artist. Some other artist?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 15, 2013, 11:26:49 PM
Looks really nice.  I think it might have been a little test, a precursor to the series.

Lots of good new stuff.  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 16, 2013, 09:34:20 AM
Any info about this knife?
It's a commander with metal scales with print similar to the ones from the serie "The Life". It's also numbered.

Really interesting!
Never saw this variant before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jojotlc on June 16, 2013, 03:21:39 PM
Hello,
today I found a Evo 63 Blackout SoftTouch in a local shop.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2876)
Is (or was) this model really exclusive to the Australian market?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree
The shop owner told me he had three (this was the last one) and that he came across them way before the Blackout models (with EvoGrip scales) were available.
Basilio..that will feel good grip. .and nice bo implements. Matt bo is always got my  :tu:
Patiently waiting for my wenger BO evo10 and wenger PR. ;)
Jo
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 12:59:01 AM
1st Wenger Dynasty series knife I have in its luxury box. This knife is new old stock I guess. It has some old oil here and there but the case is not stained with it inside. This is the Ivanhoe model.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F5NIRPwzGig/Ub4_lY9aSBI/AAAAAAAAfZU/8mnSzXK6iVo/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-02.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lHsEzONULxE/Ub4_m9ABjcI/AAAAAAAAfgM/uI_2ENeDvj0/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-04.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YCfTP-5f1PU/Ub4_t1bzfPI/AAAAAAAAfaU/d_a1EC2BQx8/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-10.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o5f7c4tXmiM/Ub4_pHly0zI/AAAAAAAAfZ0/cef8hR4p3t4/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-06.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P5spwhkSmf4/Ub4_qa_gZKI/AAAAAAAAfZ8/PE9XOMifiTg/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-07.JPG)







Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 17, 2013, 01:43:41 AM
Dynasty Question; the last 3 Merlins that have appeared on ebay all had hot-stamped silvered emblems, but the one SM5K showed here and uploaded to SAKwiki appears to have a white printed emblem.  Does anyone have any information on this, or confirmation?  I have one of the hot-stamped ones, I will photograph as soon as i can.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 17, 2013, 06:49:38 AM
I think this is confusion that being brought by Wenger themselves, for example I saw knives that supposed to be King Arthurs, but they had tools set which is completely the same as Lancelot (King Arthur must have wrench). Also some guy here posted Galahad with stag engraved on the bottom, which was never mentioned in any of Wenger's catalog. Probably you were dealing with cheaper model of Merlin, or with specific model for a different market area.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 17, 2013, 06:54:09 AM
Stressmaster, where did you get this baby? I'm checking ebay all the time to catch knives from Dynasty Series but the only luck i've catched 2 days ago is Lancelot in perfect (near mint) condition, but without (!!) box. Recently missed Galahad for just $20 (!), hate myself for this. It was in not that good condition though. But dissapoint still remains  :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 07:08:56 AM
As you said I too check eBay frequently. This one seems to have been missed by most although I did not get it cheap. It is hard to find NIB items that do not attract tons of collector interest. I am posting a blog post about it with more photos for tomorrow so check it sometime Monday.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 17, 2013, 07:50:37 AM
I think this is confusion that being brought by Wenger themselves, for example I saw knives that supposed to be King Arthurs, but they had tools set which is completely the same as Lancelot (King Arthur must have wrench). Also some guy here posted Galahad with stag engraved on the bottom, which was never mentioned in any of Wenger's catalog. Probably you were dealing with cheaper model of Merlin, or with specific model for a different market area.

This? It has the same blade configuration as the Galahad, but to the best of my knowledge in not part of the Dynasty series. The logo looks like the one for Hartford Insurance. The Britannia has the same blades as the Gawain.

There is a fancy version of the Lancelot that shows up in catalogs (right). There is also a fancy version of the King Arthur (left) that was reportedly a special run for Sharper Image.

I have a blue version of the Gawain, and ICFT has a red version of one of the models.

Never have managed to pick up a Merlin, so can't comment on that.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 17, 2013, 11:45:02 AM
As you said I too check eBay frequently. This one seems to have been missed by most although I did not get it cheap. It is hard to find NIB items that do not attract tons of collector interest. I am posting a blog post about it with more photos for tomorrow so check it sometime Monday.

I check ebay everyday, can't realize how I could miss it. If it's not too much of secret - how much did you get it for?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 17, 2013, 11:49:41 AM

There is a fancy version of the Lancelot that shows up in catalogs (right). There is also a fancy version of the King Arthur (left) that was reportedly a special run for Sharper Image.
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Which photos are you reffering to? Those one with complicated engraving on the scales?
The only difference betwen Gawain and Galahad is that Galahad locks the blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 17, 2013, 11:51:51 AM
Blue one looks pretty interesting by the way, but not that luxury as black ones do :) Nice knife.
Saw red one just ones somewhere on russian knives forum, but never met it on ebay. Must be pretty rare...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on June 17, 2013, 12:24:48 PM
Wenger Champ, quite interesting as my fattest Wenger yet and picked up for not much coin.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Wenger_Champ_zps9ab84bb3.jpg) (http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Thorpe/media/Wenger_Champ_zps9ab84bb3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 17, 2013, 01:07:55 PM
I think this is confusion that being brought by Wenger themselves, for example I saw knives that supposed to be King Arthurs, but they had tools set which is completely the same as Lancelot (King Arthur must have wrench). Also some guy here posted Galahad with stag engraved on the bottom, which was never mentioned in any of Wenger's catalog. Probably you were dealing with cheaper model of Merlin, or with specific model for a different market area.

This? It has the same blade configuration as the Galahad, but to the best of my knowledge in not part of the Dynasty series. The logo looks like the one for Hartford Insurance. The Britannia has the same blades as the Gawain. photo #1 The Stag has a lock; the Britannia does not.

There is a fancy version of the Lancelot that shows up in catalogs (right). There is also a fancy version of the King Arthur (left) that was reportedly a special run for Sharper Image. photo #2

I have a blue version of the Gawain, and ICFT has a red version of one of the models.photo #3

Never have managed to pick up a Merlin, so can't comment on that.

Fancy and plain versions of King Arthur (left), and fancy and plain versions of Lancelot (right).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 17, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
Dynasty Question; the last 3 Merlins that have appeared on ebay all had hot-stamped silvered emblems, but the one SM5K showed here and uploaded to SAKwiki appears to have a white printed emblem.  Does anyone have any information on this, or confirmation?  I have one of the hot-stamped ones, I will photograph as soon as i can.

I checked mine and the emblem is hot stamped (see attachments).
It was, however, very niclely done, and I had to touch it with my finger to check.
I had a look at the pictures by stressmaster, and I believe (my opinion) his model has probably the emblem hot stamped as well and not printed.
I also did look back at the last ebay auction you probably mentioned.
The emblem looks a little different (it seems to have little less details, for example on the helmet above the cross), but it is not easy to see from the auction image.
Perhaps Wenger changed over time the way the emblem was stamped.  ???

Edit: added a comparison image between the Merlin emblem I saw on ebay (left) and mine (right). Sorry for the poor quality but I had to use a lot of zoom.
There is clearly a difference in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 17, 2013, 04:40:15 PM

I made a visit  to a local shop today, and the 2005 dealer's catalog (which I sadly don't own) shows all the three Tactiles.
The shop owner is going to make a copy of this page for me.
Will post when available.

I uploaded on the wiki two single catalog pages.
The first one is from a 2005 European dealers catalog
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2880)
It shows the all three Tacticle models along with some other interesting stuff like the "Camo" line, which were basically the precursors of the Hardwood series (will update later the wiki with them).

The second page is from a 2006 European dealers catalog
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2879)
Only the Tacticle 811 is displayed (along with its catalog number).
Since they are not showing up, I think the Tacticles 813 and 812 were probably discontinued from this year.

Edit: Now just when I thought the research on the Tacticles was complete, I realized the Tacticle 812 shown above has the corckscrew instead of the phillips driver..... :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
1st Wenger Dynasty series knife I have in its luxury box. This knife is new old stock I guess. It has some old oil here and there but the case is not stained with it inside. This is the Ivanhoe model.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F5NIRPwzGig/Ub4_lY9aSBI/AAAAAAAAfZU/8mnSzXK6iVo/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-02.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lHsEzONULxE/Ub4_m9ABjcI/AAAAAAAAfgM/uI_2ENeDvj0/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-04.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YCfTP-5f1PU/Ub4_t1bzfPI/AAAAAAAAfaU/d_a1EC2BQx8/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-10.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o5f7c4tXmiM/Ub4_pHly0zI/AAAAAAAAfZ0/cef8hR4p3t4/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-06.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P5spwhkSmf4/Ub4_qa_gZKI/AAAAAAAAfZ8/PE9XOMifiTg/s800/Wenger%2520Ivanhoe-07.JPG)

Blog post write up for this knife. (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/06/wenger-dynasty-series-ivanhoe.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 10:46:29 PM

I made a visit  to a local shop today, and the 2005 dealer's catalog (which I sadly don't own) shows all the three Tactiles.
The shop owner is going to make a copy of this page for me.
Will post when available.

I uploaded on the wiki two single catalog pages.
The first one is from a 2005 European dealers catalog
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2880)
It shows the all three Tacticle models along with some other interesting stuff like the "Camo" line, which were basically the precursors of the Hardwood series (will update later the wiki with them).

The second page is from a 2006 European dealers catalog
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2879)
Only the Tacticle 811 is displayed (along with its catalog number).
Since they are not showing up, I think the Tacticles 813 and 812 were probably discontinued from this year.

Edit: Now just when I thought the research on the Tacticles was complete, I realized the Tacticle 812 shown above has the corckscrew instead of the phillips driver..... :ahhh
Thanks for sharing these.  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 10:49:54 PM
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SY6AfdELEoY/Ub90K85GR4I/AAAAAAAAfko/izxea97kknU/s800/Wenger%2520Display-3.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OQEBsmULv9k/Ub90KXG9qFI/AAAAAAAAfkg/_7bG8IMQHz4/s800/Wenger%2520Display-2.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JVON2MI932I/Ub90JjVzMvI/AAAAAAAAfkY/rqtAHrawkcE/s800/Wenger%2520Display-1.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 18, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
Dynasty Question; the last 3 Merlins that have appeared on ebay all had hot-stamped silvered emblems, but the one SM5K showed here and uploaded to SAKwiki appears to have a white printed emblem.  Does anyone have any information on this, or confirmation?  I have one of the hot-stamped ones, I will photograph as soon as i can.

I checked mine and the emblem is hot stamped (see attachments).
It was, however, very niclely done, and I had to touch it with my finger to check.
I had a look at the pictures by stressmaster, and I believe (my opinion) his model has probably the emblem hot stamped as well and not printed.
I also did look back at the last ebay auction you probably mentioned.
The emblem looks a little different (it seems to have little less details, for example on the helmet above the cross), but it is not easy to see from the auction image.
Perhaps Wenger changed over time the way the emblem was stamped.  ???

Edit: added a comparison image between the Merlin emblem I saw on ebay (left) and mine (right). Sorry for the poor quality but I had to use a lot of zoom.
There is clearly a difference in my opinion.

Nice! Thanks for the pics.

I took a photo of mine with artificial light.  I saw a couple others on ebay that appeared to look similar.  It does appear as if the detail is not as sharp.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 18, 2013, 03:21:49 AM
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SY6AfdELEoY/Ub90K85GR4I/AAAAAAAAfko/izxea97kknU/s800/Wenger%2520Display-3.JPG)
...

That's a good example of Wenger Colors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 20, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.
Very interesting!


Fancy and plain versions of King Arthur (left), and fancy and plain versions of Lancelot (right).

Looking at ebay completed auctions I just saw that a King Arthur with that elaborate design was recently sold, for quite an high price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/400497833588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3f87f674&nma=true&si=XqNfY1fu1jzRAhGVfn65g7T071s%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Because of the seller shipping restrictions, I could not even see the auction when it was going on and missed also the Lancelot that was recently sold as well (many thanks to ebay for this "great" feature).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 21, 2013, 04:26:15 AM
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.
Very interesting!


Fancy and plain versions of King Arthur (left), and fancy and plain versions of Lancelot (right).

Looking at ebay completed auctions I just saw that a King Arthur with that elaborate design was recently sold, for quite an high price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/400497833588?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3f87f674&nma=true&si=XqNfY1fu1jzRAhGVfn65g7T071s%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Because of the seller shipping restrictions, I could not even see the auction when it was going on and missed also the Lancelot that was recently sold as well (many thanks to ebay for this "great" feature).

What restrictions are you talking about?

Which lancelot?
This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/251289113693?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=15JOxjWljRE5zAeBpIGC17svhPk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 21, 2013, 05:47:29 AM


Edit: Now just when I thought the research on the Tacticles was complete, I realized the Tacticle 812 shown above has the corckscrew instead of the phillips driver..... :ahhh

I have a picture of the Tactile 812 with a corkscrew and the number 1.177.09.812. Also have a picture of the phillips version, but no number. The one I have has the phillips. Wonder if it was a difference between Europe and North America?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 21, 2013, 05:48:25 AM
I had a hard time getting any kind of decent photos of this Wenger Esquire color display. It measures 11 inches x 11 inches and is made of shiny black plastic. The scales are mounted with double sided tape I think.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SY6AfdELEoY/Ub90K85GR4I/AAAAAAAAfko/izxea97kknU/s800/Wenger%2520Display-3.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OQEBsmULv9k/Ub90KXG9qFI/AAAAAAAAfkg/_7bG8IMQHz4/s800/Wenger%2520Display-2.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JVON2MI932I/Ub90JjVzMvI/AAAAAAAAfkY/rqtAHrawkcE/s800/Wenger%2520Display-1.JPG)

Nice display!  :tu: Unfortunately half those colors are no longer offered
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 21, 2013, 09:19:53 AM

What restrictions are you talking about?

Which lancelot?
This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/251289113693?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=15JOxjWljRE5zAeBpIGC17svhPk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Yes, that was the Lancelot.
With much disappointment I discovered this: if a seller apply a shipping restriction to his auction (let's say, USA only) and if he set an ebay option to not allow bidders from outside USA to place a bid, well that auction will not be displayed on pc's located outside USA.
I suspect this is something related at IP level.
Funny thing is that 98% of the time I ask seller permission to bid, they are always more than happy to ship to my country. But I can't ask if I don't see the auction.
I did find myself a way to "cheat" a little the system (using a different internet browser where I never logged into ebay), but it works only to display auctions from specific sellers, not for general searches.

I have a picture of the Tactile 812 with a corkscrew and the number 1.177.09.812. Also have a picture of the phillips version, but no number. The one I have has the phillips. Wonder if it was a difference between Europe and North America?
I also have the 812 with phillips, but never saw the corckscrew version.
Interesting thing is that the other european catalog page posted on that old EDC auction
http://www.edcsource.com/auction_details.php?name=Drop%20Point%20%20Swiss%20Auction&auction_id=105158
shows the 812 with phillips.
I'm not even sure if the Tactiles were ever imported in North America
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 21, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
Hi

Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52458;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 21, 2013, 04:32:37 PM

What restrictions are you talking about?

Which lancelot?
This one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Delemont-13-Tool-Swiss-Army-Knife-Stainless-Black-w-White-Animal-Design-/251289113693?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=15JOxjWljRE5zAeBpIGC17svhPk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Yes, that was the Lancelot.
With much disappointment I discovered this: if a seller apply a shipping restriction to his auction (let's say, USA only) and if he set an ebay option to not allow bidders from outside USA to place a bid, well that auction will not be displayed on pc's located outside USA.
I suspect this is something related at IP level.
Funny thing is that 98% of the time I ask seller permission to bid, they are always more than happy to ship to my country. But I can't ask if I don't see the auction.
I did find myself a way to "cheat" a little the system (using a different internet browser where I never logged into ebay), but it works only to display auctions from specific sellers, not for general searches.

I have a picture of the Tactile 812 with a corkscrew and the number 1.177.09.812. Also have a picture of the phillips version, but no number. The one I have has the phillips. Wonder if it was a difference between Europe and North America?
I also have the 812 with phillips, but never saw the corckscrew version.
Interesting thing is that the other european catalog page posted on that old EDC auction
http://www.edcsource.com/auction_details.php?name=Drop%20Point%20%20Swiss%20Auction&auction_id=105158
shows the 812 with phillips.
I'm not even sure if the Tactiles were ever imported in North America


It was me, I bought that Lancelot. Sorry, mate :)
But to my knowledge particulary this seller doesn't have any restrictions. More than this, I'm located in Ukraine, country which sellers don't like much harder then Italy, so how come you didn't see this auction while I did? I think to avoid restrictions you should use proxy server. And by the way, how do you explore listings that have ended?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 21, 2013, 04:40:37 PM
To see listings that have ended on eBay go to advanced search (far right next to the search field and click it. Then type your search words, go down a bit and check the completed listings box, go to the bottom of the page and click search.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Theron on June 21, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: North Man link=topic=32456.msgures on Amazon 741261#msg741261 date=1371816849
Hi

Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52458;image)

That wood scale is pretty.   Most other Wenger wood scales I've seen were butt ugly.

Did you refinish it by chance?  All the pictures on Amazon look ugly like all I have seen, too.

You hit the jackpot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 21, 2013, 07:43:48 PM

Hi
It is all original factory Walnut finish, they vary alot dark to light from what i have seen, usually they look much better in the real.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 21, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
Hi

Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52458;image)

That really is a very nice looking wood scaled Ranger!  :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 21, 2013, 08:47:02 PM


Thanks all :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rshives on June 21, 2013, 09:11:53 PM
Are the hunters no longer being sold anywhere?  I haven't been able to find them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 21, 2013, 09:26:12 PM
Are the hunters no longer being sold anywhere?  I haven't been able to find them.

Search ebay for Wenger 57.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rshives on June 21, 2013, 09:28:04 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 21, 2013, 09:56:32 PM
Hi

Latest Wenger is the Rangerwood 55, i have had this in my hand before and it is a high class knife. Feels really well.



Nice duo!
I know that the interest is all for the Rangerwood, but I really LOVE the camo pattern of that Hardwood in the background!
Did you find it by chance, or were you able to choose it from a few?



It was me, I bought that Lancelot. Sorry, mate :)
But to my knowledge particulary this seller doesn't have any restrictions. More than this, I'm located in Ukraine, country which sellers don't like much harder then Italy, so how come you didn't see this auction while I did? I think to avoid restrictions you should use proxy server. And by the way, how do you explore listings that have ended?
Hey, I'm just glad it went into good hands!
I don't have much experience with proxy servers (and internet settings in general), so I wouldn't know what to do.
But be sure that those Lancelot auction was not showing up for me (luckily for you  :D).
I discovered this on this board.
Few members were discussing about a closed auction (without posting the auction's number or a link), and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't see it
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 21, 2013, 10:21:52 PM
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ULk-UvICos/UYU-OajASAI/AAAAAAAAHDQ/foleVwxpa3M/s640/DSCN2690_r.jpg)


I decided to "pull the trigger" on the Rangerwood SAC, basically because it is the only Rangerwood model with the one hand opening blade (which I love).
Bought mine here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
There are basically two different versions of this knife.
The one I received is exactly as shown in the above link.
The SAC logo is on the front scale, and the balde does not have any markings.
The box is also very similar to the one shown by Martin, has the SAC logo but not the 150 years one.
So apparently there are two SAC versions: one for the 150 years, and one "standard".
Sorry if it was old news, but I just realized this today.
Will post pictures of my Rangerwood 161 soon.
Box label on mine example reads: AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS, date 11 2012
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on June 21, 2013, 10:44:19 PM
Ranger 55 Wood, 150 Years SAC

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3ULk-UvICos/UYU-OajASAI/AAAAAAAAHDQ/foleVwxpa3M/s640/DSCN2690_r.jpg)


I decided to "pull the trigger" on the Rangerwood SAC, basically because it is the only Rangerwood model with the one hand opening blade (which I love).
Bought mine here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
There are basically two different versions of this knife.
The one I received is exactly as shown in the above link.
The SAC logo is on the front scale, and the balde does not have any markings.
The box is also very similar to the one shown by Martin, has the SAC logo but not the 150 years one.
So apparently there are two SAC versions: one for the 150 years, and one "standard".
Sorry if it was old news, but I just realized this today.
Will post pictures of my Rangerwood 161 soon.
Box label on mine example reads: AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS, date 11 2012

very nice :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 21, 2013, 11:26:54 PM
Ordered mine direct from SAC (had problems with Weber and no longer deal with them). The handle logo is on the back side, and the blade has the etched logo. The number is AF.1.077.161.830.C. The box has the 150th anniversary logo.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 22, 2013, 12:40:43 AM
Variations of Wenger Major :

On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :

- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)

But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...

Does anyone know this model ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 22, 2013, 01:16:05 AM
Variations of Wenger Major :

On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :

- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)

But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...

Does anyone know this model ?

Look at the catalog pages 92-95, I think you're talking about model 1.24.03. In North America good chance it was in the backpacker series if the imported that model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 22, 2013, 01:17:58 AM
Variations of Wenger Major :

On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :

- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)

But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...

Does anyone know this model ?

Its model number is 1.24.03 (short chain?) or 1.24.02 (key ring?). Don't have any other info on it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 22, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
 :ahhh I bought another Traveler...

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52525;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 22, 2013, 06:08:11 PM
A nice solid vintage Wenger.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52529;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 22, 2013, 06:43:58 PM
A nice solid vintage Wenger.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52529;image)

Uuu, that's a nice dressy knife. What size is it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 22, 2013, 11:14:20 PM
Older version of the Wenger Handwerker, with matte nylon scales. Dated '65'. (top)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 23, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
Variations of Wenger Major :

On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :

- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)

But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...

Does anyone know this model ?

Look at the catalog pages 92-95, I think you're talking about model 1.24.03. In North America good chance it was in the backpacker series if the imported that model.

Thanks a lot, it exactly this model (1.24.03) with key chain.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 23, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
Variations of Wenger Major :

On SakWiki, 2 Wenger Major are referenced :

- 1.23.03 Wenger Major (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Major)
- 1.23.13 Wenger (Major) with small blade instead of nail file (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)

But another Major Wenger was discovered by one of my friends : this model is like 1.23.03 Wenger Major but with a Phillips Screwdriver instead of the Corkscrew...

Does anyone know this model ?

Its model number is 1.24.03 (short chain?) or 1.24.02 (key ring?). Don't have any other info on it.

Thanks, it's the model 1.24.03 with key chain
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 24, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
Ordered mine direct from SAC (had problems with Weber and no longer deal with them). The handle logo is on the back side, and the blade has the etched logo. The number is AF.1.077.161.830.C. The box has the 150th anniversary logo.

Nice set!
Is there any date printed on the Ranger's box label?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 24, 2013, 12:06:38 PM
:ahhh I bought another Traveler...

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=52525;image)

Interesting.
Nice to see Wenger promoting itself...... :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 24, 2013, 05:45:58 PM

I decided to "pull the trigger" on the Rangerwood SAC, basically because it is the only Rangerwood model with the one hand opening blade (which I love).
Bought mine here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
There are basically two different versions of this knife.
The one I received is exactly as shown in the above link.
The SAC logo is on the front scale, and the balde does not have any markings.
The box is also very similar to the one shown by Martin, has the SAC logo but not the 150 years one.
So apparently there are two SAC versions: one for the 150 years, and one "standard".
Sorry if it was old news, but I just realized this today.
Will post pictures of my Rangerwood 161 soon.
Box label on mine example reads: AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS, date 11 2012

Here is a picture of my model
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2881)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 24, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
[LINK REMOVED]
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 24, 2013, 06:59:18 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 24, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:

OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied

Bye
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 24, 2013, 07:25:23 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:

OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied

Bye

You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 24, 2013, 07:43:38 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:

OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied

Bye

You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:

OK, It means I can post any links to EDC Source, Multitool.org, Multitool Gallery, Multitool Encyclopedia, SAKWiki, Swiss Army Knights but nothing else...

Sorry, but it is neither open nor very democratic, without being disrespectful to anyone.

I note once again that Americans and Europeans are culturally very differents.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 24, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:

OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied

Bye

You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:

OK, It means I can post any links to EDC Source, Multitool.org, Multitool Gallery, Multitool Encyclopedia, SAKWiki, Swiss Army Knights but nothing else...

Sorry, but it is neither open nor very democratic, without being disrespectful to anyone.

I note once again that Americans and Europeans are culturally very differents.




If you spent more time here you'd realise that you can post links here to pretty much anywhere. We even have a special forum to post links to good deals we find on other sites, be it eBay or some other store.


From your 12 posts so far 5 of them have been to your site and store and two were complaining why you can't post links to your store and some of them were reported as SPAM by the members. I'd call that advertising. As for the different cultures between Europe and America, well ... I'm European. ;)


So let's please get back to the topic here and discuss our love for the Wenger Swiss Army knives and if you wish to discuss this topic further please send me a PM (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3042).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 24, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
Jean Claude, you've been told before if you want to advertise here to contact Grant Lamontagne (http://forum.multitool.or...php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2) for any further informations and options how to do it.


Please don't post any more links to your website and store until you do so. :salute:

OK, no problem I will never post anything here and so you will be satisfied

Bye

You can post and talk about SAKs all you like and we encourage that. After all that's what this forum is for. But this is a privately owned and funded forum, which costs money, and is sponsored by members and sellers who pay for the privilege to advertise here. Allowing you to advertise here for free and post links to your store/boutique or however you want to call it would be disrespectful towards the people who actually pay for this service. :salute:

OK, It means I can post any links to EDC Source, Multitool.org, Multitool Gallery, Multitool Encyclopedia, SAKWiki, Swiss Army Knights but nothing else...

Sorry, but it is neither open nor very democratic, without being disrespectful to anyone.

I note once again that Americans and Europeans are culturally very differents.




If you spent more time here you'd realise that you can post links here to pretty much anywhere. We even have a special forum to post links to good deals we find on other sites, be it eBay or some other store.


From your 12 posts so far 5 of them have been to your site and store and two were complaining why you can't post links to your store and some of them were reported as SPAM by the members. I'd call that advertising. As for the different cultures between Europe and America, well ... I'm European. ;)


So let's please get back to the topic here and discuss our love for the Wenger Swiss Army knives and if you wish to discuss this topic further please send me a PM (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3042).

 ;)

 :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:
 :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:


Oh, I forgot. Here is a nice Wenger knife to look at.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ILHxbCgARxE/S6gmVsP6phI/AAAAAAAAN7I/JRvN99_nYGQ/s800/Blue%2520Alox%2520Wenger-02.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 24, 2013, 09:42:29 PM
Wow!!! What a beauty! Ivanhoe? What does "K2D2" mean?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 24, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 24, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
Wow!!! What a beauty! Ivanhoe? What does "K2D2" mean?
Don't know what it means or stands for. Thought maybe that little droid from Star Wars ordered a custom SAK and they got his id name wrong.  :P  :rofl:

The knife is of the likeness of a Dynasty series knife. The main blade has etching from Davos.
More details here. (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2010/03/wenger-traveler-blue-alox.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 24, 2013, 10:09:16 PM
Wow!!! What a beauty! Ivanhoe? What does "K2D2" mean?
Don't know what it means or stands for. Thought maybe that little droid from Star Wars ordered a custom SAK and they got his id name wrong.  :P  :rofl:

The knife is of the likeness of a Dynasty series knife. The main blade has etching from Davos.
More details here. (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2010/03/wenger-traveler-blue-alox.html)


As for Dynasty Series, actually it looks exactly like Gawain from that series, but Dynasty Series has always been introdused as black colored, so I'm not sure. They had european run called "Diplomat", perhaps this is one of them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 24, 2013, 10:22:33 PM
I just paid for my first 130mm. A 55 with black scales. All this 55 Evowood posts lately pushed me over the edge. I have a thing for black scales though. ;)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 25, 2013, 12:30:49 AM
Ordered mine direct from SAC (had problems with Weber and no longer deal with them). The handle logo is on the back side, and the blade has the etched logo. The number is AF.1.077.161.830.C. The box has the 150th anniversary logo.

Nice set!
Is there any date printed on the Ranger's box label?

Both of the SAC knives have what appears to be a date - 11 2012.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 25, 2013, 03:54:28 AM
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.

I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 25, 2013, 04:22:51 AM
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.

I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:

Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew  ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 25, 2013, 11:49:53 AM

Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew  ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.

I think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.
The Bernina is also still available online from many sources, at least here in Italy.
I didn't have problems buying one, some months ago.
Many Wenger knives, even if officially discontinued, are still available in large stocks.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 25, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
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I think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.

Number of SAKs is not that huge, it's not thousands or even hundreds of models, so I think sakwiki can be easily updated in time.

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The Bernina is also still available online from many sources, at least here in Italy.

Any links? ALIVE links.  I tried dozens of internet shops stating "Available", but they all were useless, because last update was somewhere in 19th century.


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The Bernina is also still available online from many sources, at least here in Italy.

I think Italy is quite closer to Switzerland, am I mistaken?  ::)

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Many Wenger knives, even if officially discontinued, are still available in large stocks

Bernina is not a regular knife, it can't be as common as any wenger knife. This is "by default", i.e. 100%.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 25, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
Quote
I think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.

Number of SAKs is not that huge, it's not thousands or even hundreds of models, so I think sakwiki can be easily updated in time.

The SAKwiki currently has cca 640 pages, most of them have multiple SAK variations listed and that are only major changes with different model numbers. If we would be counting all the limited runs and different color variations too the number would be :ahhh There are still lots of models that were discussed here on the forum but still haven't been added to the wiki cause information are still being gathered about them. So yes, there are literally thousands of different SAK models and variations. And the site is maintained by members here, volunteers who do it for the love of the Swiss Army knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 25, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
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limited runs and different color variations

I meant basic models actually... :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 25, 2013, 09:47:21 PM
Quote
I think it could be a little difficult to have the sakwiki updated daily with the availability of every single knife listed.

Number of SAKs is not that huge, it's not thousands or even hundreds of models, so I think sakwiki can be easily updated in time.

The SAKwiki currently has cca 640 pages, most of them have multiple SAK variations listed and that are only major changes with different model numbers. If we would be counting all the limited runs and different color variations too the number would be :ahhh There are still lots of models that were discussed here on the forum but still haven't been added to the wiki cause information are still being gathered about them. So yes, there are literally thousands of different SAK models and variations. And the site is maintained by members here, volunteers who do it for the love of the Swiss Army knife.

Most of the knives shown in the SAKwiki are from the 1960s or newer. There are a very large number of older models that may be shown in some of the older catalogs, but are otherwise unlisted.

Jazzbass is planning a book that may cover some of the info you're looking for.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 25, 2013, 11:47:41 PM
What I'm talking about, guys, is that it's not such a problem to know what models are being produced at the moment. So even if to say that over 70 000 differen models has been produced since 1960's, the number of actual models is much much lower (let's say 300 for Victorinox, for example), so it's easy to realize that the rest 69700 are discontinued. Please don't start talking about different scales colors, bla-bla-bla, I mean just MODELS. Hope now it's clear. Even for "witty" cowboys from over the ocean.
P.S. Book is great idea.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 26, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
Hi
Again I photographed my "Wenger Giant" + with new various scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 26, 2013, 11:33:38 AM


Nice set!
Is there any date printed on the Ranger's box label?

Both of the SAC knives have what appears to be a date - 11 2012.

Thank you Karl.
Sorry I missed your answer
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 26, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
Hi
Again I photographed my "Wenger Giant" + with new various scales.
Nice collection Igor!
I updated yesterday the wiki with the Camo 07 and 08 (your fifth knife from the right on the bottom line)
They can be found (along with the Hardwoods 13 and 10) under the Commander and Backpacker sections.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J-sews on June 26, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Very nice collection you have there Gim! :tu:

And thanks to you and everyone else who has helped out with Sakwiki basilio :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 26, 2013, 05:13:52 PM
Hi
Again I photographed my "Wenger Giant" + with new various scales.

Interesting Patroulle Des Glasier knife, never seen modern version before. Is it's blade etched as well? I have older one with red scales and brass plate, IMO older models look more neat. Nice collection anyways.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 26, 2013, 05:37:25 PM

And thanks to you and everyone else who has helped out with Sakwiki basilio :salute:

Oh thanks, but I just added few pictures and made small edits.
All the hard work had already been done (most by Francis).


Interesting Patroulle Des Glasier knife, never seen modern version before. Is it's blade etched as well? I have older one with red scales and brass plate, IMO older models look more neat. Nice collection anyways.
It is listed in the current catalog
http://www.wenger.ch/evolution-14-pdg-1-014-009-302-pdg
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 27, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.

I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:

Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew  ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.

But I have to ask. Why do you use other peoples pictures of SAKs? We'd appreciate it much more if you posted the ones you bought. It doesn't matter if they are shot with a cellphone or a high quality camera. :D Some people might get offended for using their pictures. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 27, 2013, 12:50:12 AM
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But I have to ask. Why do you use other peoples pictures of SAKs? We'd appreciate it much more if you posted the ones you bought. It doesn't matter if they are shot with a cellphone or a high quality camera.  Some people might get offended for using their pictures.

LoL : ) Will you find anything more if I make a picture of the same knife? I just was too lazy to spend my time on taking new pics with good camera. If low quality pics of the same knife made by me with cell phone will make you happy, I'll do it, no problem  ;) By the way, author of that photo doesn't mind me to use it  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 27, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
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But I have to ask. Why do you use other peoples pictures of SAKs? We'd appreciate it much more if you posted the ones you bought. It doesn't matter if they are shot with a cellphone or a high quality camera.  Some people might get offended for using their pictures.

LoL : ) Will you find anything more if I make a picture of the same knife? I just was too lazy to spend my time on taking new pics with good camera. If low quality pics of the same knife made by me with cell phone will make you happy, I'll do it, no problem  ;) By the way, author of that photo doesn't mind me to use it  :P

Condition means a lot in the SAK collecting community and that varies from SAK to SAK. So while Gim's Wenger Bernina is nice (and I see by his collection he still has it ;) ) pictures of your own SAK would be nicer. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: povarvor on June 27, 2013, 01:11:37 AM
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Condition means a lot in the SAK collecting community and that varies from SAK to SAK. So while Gim's Wenger Bernina is nice (and I see by his collection he still has it  ) pictures of your own SAK would be nicer.

Condition doesn't vary from SAK to SAK when both SAKs are new in box.
If condition of my Bernina wasn't just the same, I'd never use his pic. All I did is used picture of new knife to tell about MY new knife, that's it. And I explained why I acted like this. If you can't live without my bernina's pics, you'll get it. But tomorrow, cuz now it's time to sleep.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Leandro Bla on June 29, 2013, 01:44:22 AM
I have 3 Wengers SAK, old models, a Ranger Mountaineer, a Handyman and a Esquire. I prefer Wenger on Victorinox. Here they are:

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4892/qg4k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/qg4k.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 29, 2013, 06:11:18 AM
I have 3 Wengers SAK, old models, a Ranger Mountaineer, a Handyman and a Esquire. I prefer Wenger on Victorinox. Here they are:

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4892/qg4k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/qg4k.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

Hi Leandro,

Nice variety there. Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Leandro Bla on June 29, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
Thank you very much ColoSwiss   :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on June 30, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Here are two Wengers, an 85 and a 65, i bought recently:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg.html)

Nice variants with SS scales. I did not find the model numbers or names in the WIKI.

But I found out that the scales are glued on and that the glue will be dissolved by Swiss Army Weapon Cleaning Oil....
It does a good job of cleaning debris and gummed oil, too btw.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg.html)

I would like to know the model names and what kind of glue you would use to reattach the scales.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: space cowboy on June 30, 2013, 11:39:48 PM
One is an Esquire. The one with blade,nail file & scissors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on June 30, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Thanks - I knew the "standard" scaled version had this name but did believe this Version might have a special name.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on June 30, 2013, 11:47:25 PM
I would never have believed that the Swiss would use........GLUE!!  :facepalm:
NEVER, say it aint so :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 30, 2013, 11:50:32 PM
Here are two Wengers, an 85 and a 65, i bought recently:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss855_zps018c1ed0.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss854_zps4ba2547e.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss652_zpscc42bbe4.jpg.html)

Nice variants with SS scales. I did not find the model numbers or names in the WIKI.

But I found out that the scales are glued on and that the glue will be dissolved by Swiss Army Weapon Cleaning Oil....
It does a good job of cleaning debris and gummed oil, too btw.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss851_zps215526a6.jpg.html)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/mattschwarz/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/mattschwarz/media/tools/ss651_zps632caf85.jpg.html)

I would like to know the model names and what kind of glue you would use to reattach the scales.

The 85mm is a Stainless Traveler. There's also a Stainless Serrated Traveler. Both were sold in the U.S. with the same number, 16632. Don't have the European numbers in my notes.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on June 30, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
I was pretty surprised, too.
You learn something new everyday...

I´m thinking about non-acidic Silicone to reattach the scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on June 30, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
Thanks, Guys!

Would it be heresy to put the scales on another Wenger of my liking? (Say my new Minathor, for example) or are the Stainless ones common enough that collectors won´t  :twak: me when I do so?

Edit:
Or maybe a Blackout would look hot with those scales, too... :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 01, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
Thanks, Guys!

Would it be heresy to put the scales on another Wenger of my liking? (Say my new Minathor, for example) or are the Stainless ones common enough that collectors won´t  :twak: me when I do so?

Edit:
Or maybe a Blackout would look hot with those scales, too... :think:

There are one or two purist collectors (not me) who would accuse you of forging a fake, but all the modders here would say go for it. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on July 01, 2013, 12:32:46 AM
I have no bad feelings modding my stuff. I only hold myself back when I know the item is a rare or collectors item and I can do my mod another way, too.
For example, I´d not tear apart a perfectly fine old clip point / 5 winds corkscrewdriver SAK just to harvest a scissor layer without a backtool.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 01, 2013, 06:00:03 AM
I have no bad feelings modding my stuff. I only hold myself back when I know the item is a rare or collectors item and I can do my mod another way, too.
For example, I´d not tear apart a perfectly fine old clip point / 5 winds corkscrewdriver SAK just to harvest a scissor layer without a backtool.

The silver colored stainless handles are a fairly recent standard production item that showed up on a half-dozen models. Some of the fancy versions with cigar cutter might be rare, but I doubt the Traveler is.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 01, 2013, 10:04:46 AM
I have a brushed stainless Traveller and a brushed stainless Pocket Tool Chest, and the adhesive has held just fine on those and they've had a good amount of pocket carry and use. The fact they use adhesive doesn't surprise me, as it would be difficult to secure a pressed shell like that another way. Might be worth tracking down some of that 3M tape that the nite ize pocket clips are attached with .... although I think you only get one shot at lining it up with that stuff  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 01, 2013, 11:58:09 AM
According to this topic
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,43091.0.html
the Dynasty/Diplomate serie has the scales glued as well.
I have a King Arthur just coming back from Delémont which should have the scales (provided by me) replaced (by Wenger).
Will post pictures when I'll get it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on July 01, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
I have nothing to complain about - The glue held just fine until i immersed the knives in the cleaning oil.
I think teh outer liners of the knives are formed difefrent than on plsatic scaled models, right? Or is this just a newer/older version of the Liners?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 01, 2013, 02:51:34 PM
The liners on Wenger have changed quite a lot over the years (there is a thread about it somewhere), which might explain them looking different
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 01, 2013, 04:37:47 PM
Have a look here
http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Wenger_History_Hidden_Rivet_Scale_Attachment_Methods.pdf
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 02, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
My first 130mm Wenger. This thing is a beast. :ahhh I'm glad I didn't go with the Ranger 79 though. I think the hump on the OHO would be to uncomfortable when using the saw.

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/P7020024_zps9a6bd177.jpg) (http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/enki_ck/media/SAK/P7020024_zps9a6bd177.jpg.html)

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/P7020026_zpsc1b8ded2.jpg) (http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/enki_ck/media/SAK/P7020026_zpsc1b8ded2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 02, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
My first 130mm Wenger. This thing is a beast. :ahhh I'm glad I didn't go with the Ranger 79 though. I think the hump on the OHO would be to uncomfortable when using the saw.

Nice!
I happen to love the one hand opening blade, but that's just for aesthetics
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on July 03, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
My new wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 03, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
My new wenger

Nice one!
I don't understand why Weber insist on putting that ugly sticker over the Wenger one. It is not even possible to remove it without damaging the Wenger box label.
-------
I recently received from Delémont few knives I sent for repairs.
One of this was an Automobilist (1.53.03)/"Tool Chest original model", with the old car image hot stamped.
Since I happen to have a newer model of the same knife (with the old car logo printed), with much surprise I noticed that the tools configuration is different.
See attached pictures (image of the old car hot stamped on top, printed on bottom).
I have saved on my pc a picture of the Tool Chest with the old car image hot printed, and the tool configuration is exactly as in my knife. So, my knife was not a custom order.
If you look closely at the catalog pictures (1991 North America and 1995 Europe), you will notice this difference, expecially looking at the pliers position.
However, the older catalog (1991) seems to have the same tool configuration as my newer knife (the pliers seems closer to the main blade).... :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 06, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
....
Oh, I forgot. Here is a nice Wenger knife to look at.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ILHxbCgARxE/S6gmVsP6phI/AAAAAAAAN7I/JRvN99_nYGQ/s800/Blue%2520Alox%2520Wenger-02.JPG)

Yes, that's a NICE knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on July 06, 2013, 05:24:48 PM
Here is was...checking this thread as usual to see what's new and it finally really sunk in for me.  WTF?!?  No more Wenger?!?  And although quite a delayed reaction, I still can't believe there will soon be no more Wenger knives.  I'm just glad to have been able to stash a few away in the recent months for my collection.  What else can I say... no...more...Wenger... :cry:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 06, 2013, 05:28:01 PM

Nice knives shown :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 09, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
Any idea about the name or the catalog number of this knife?
Unless I missed something (very possible  :P), I searched every catalog available, but could not find the model.
A lot of similarities with the "Cascade" and, somehow, with the Alpine Backpacker
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 09, 2013, 02:12:57 PM
Wenger 16483 aka Serrated Cascade.

One was sold recently: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321149316081
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 09, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
Wenger 16483 aka Serrated Cascade.

One was sold recently: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321149316081

Thanks!!!!!!!!
Editing the wiki now.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 09, 2013, 03:38:45 PM
Two new Wengers received today:

Wenger Backpacker is what it says on the tin, but it's actually a Pathfinder with the flat Phillips bit on the knife layer :D Classic scales, but with raised "Wenger" text like on Evo scales, and with a bootprint imprinted on the scale

Also, a purple wenger nailclipper
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 09, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
Two new Wengers received today:

Wenger Backpacker is what it says on the tin, but it's actually a Pathfinder with the flat Phillips bit on the knife layer :D Classic scales, but with raised "Wenger" text like on Evo scales, and with a bootprint imprinted on the scale

Also, a purple wenger nailclipper

Sounds interesting. :D Got any pics. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 09, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
Two new Wengers received today:

Wenger Backpacker is what it says on the tin, but it's actually a Pathfinder with the flat Phillips bit on the knife layer :D Classic scales, but with raised "Wenger" text like on Evo scales, and with a bootprint imprinted on the scale

Also, a purple wenger nailclipper

Sounds interesting. :D Got any pics. ;)

Yes, I also want to see pictures!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 09, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Will try later this evening :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 09, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
While searching for the Cascade (see above) through the various Wenger catalogs I have saved on my pc, I came across this page from the 2008 North America catalog.

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9508/bra6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/bra6.jpg/)

Soft Touch 14 with locking blade???????
Was this model ever produced?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 09, 2013, 04:15:08 PM
Will try later this evening :tu:

Great. :tu: We might also have to update the wiki then if it's back into production. :D Well for now at least until the merger is complete. ::)

Also the Backpacker 12 model http://www.wenger.ch/backpacker-12-1-012-029-300
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 09, 2013, 04:23:11 PM
Will try later this evening :tu:

Great. :tu: We might also have to update the wiki then if it's back into production. :D Well for now at least until the merger is complete. ::)

Also the Backpacker 12 model http://www.wenger.ch/backpacker-12-1-012-029-300

So what's the difference between the Backpacker 12 and the Pathfinder?  :think: The Backpacker and Backpacker II were totally different. What happened to Backpacker 3 through to 11?  :P SAK names can be so confusing at times. Mine is identical with the same boot tread imprint, but on the smooth scales (except for the raised Wenger text)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 09, 2013, 05:07:56 PM

So what's the difference between the Backpacker 12 and the Pathfinder?  :think: The Backpacker and Backpacker II were totally different. What happened to Backpacker 3 through to 11?  :P SAK names can be so confusing at times. Mine is identical with the same boot tread imprint, but on the smooth scales (except for the raised Wenger text)

Same knife, different names.
Looking at the catalogs, the last reference I found of the Backpacker/Pathfinder with plain scales is from 2008 (top knife in the following picture).
Fisrt reference of the model with the Evo scales is from a 2009 catalog (bottom knife in picture).
Note the small difference (the "3") in the catalog number

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6638/cbme.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/cbme.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 09, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
Thanks Basilio  :salute:

I would have given you guys the knife number, but it's been transferred onto a store label that wasn't quite big enough  :P so I only have the first 4 digits (1644....?)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 14, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
A vintage Wenger Tahara with solid Stainless steel scales(83.5 mm).  A two blade knife, but the small one has been snapped off.  just a quick pic, as I'm about a year behind in pictures.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=53866;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Sazabi on July 15, 2013, 08:03:08 PM
A vintage Wenger Tahara with solid Stainless steel scales(83.5 mm).  A two blade knife, but the small one has been snapped off.  just a quick pic, as I'm about a year behind in pictures.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=53866;image)

Kinda reminds me of the Monroe Hardware penknives Camillus made for untold number of years; I like it. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on July 15, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
I have a few.  I realy like the handyman and its set of tools.  I also like my tradesman and my snife.  Same quality as vic but slight differences.  I like the toothpick and tweezers better on a vic anf I like the added feature of the screwdriver on the vic can opener but do this experiment....

Next time you need a couple of cans open ask someone to open a s fast as they can with the vic then the wenger canopener. Time them with a stopwatch. The wenger wins every time :tool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 15, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
A vintage Wenger Tahara with solid Stainless steel scales(83.5 mm).  A two blade knife, but the small one has been snapped off.  just a quick pic, as I'm about a year behind in pictures.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=53866;image)

Interesting knife!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 15, 2013, 11:33:21 PM
I have a few.  I realy like the handyman and its set of tools.  I also like my tradesman and my snife.  Same quality as vic but slight differences.  I like the toothpick and tweezers better on a vic anf I like the added feature of the screwdriver on the vic can opener but do this experiment....

Next time you need a couple of cans open ask someone to open a s fast as they can with the vic then the wenger canopener. Time them with a stopwatch. The wenger wins every time :tool:

Yes the Wenger can opener works really well  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 16, 2013, 12:27:31 AM
The most iconic Wenger to me oddly enough...the Swiss Business Tool. These came in 4 models, starting with the Swiss Business Tool 45, 50, 55, and 60. I managed to get all 4, but it did take some hard searching on my part, and I only got lucky once I started my search on the European Continent.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1286small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1286small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1285small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1285small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1283small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1283small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1281small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1281small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1278small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1278small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1276small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1276small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1279small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1279small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 16, 2013, 01:54:50 AM
These are a an intersting part of Wenger History, but the term iconic does not apply to the Business Tool since few would recognize it as representing Wenger, let alone the best of Wenger, in Swiss knives or any other area.

While it's an interesting tool that shows Wenger's innovation and willingness to branch out of it's comfort zone, it just can't be termed iconic.

When they liquidated their inventory a sort while back they were fairly easy to come by for a time. I went for all the colors of the top model and some packaging variations.  I can't remember how many of the other models I picked up.  I grabbed a few extra red ones for possible sale in the future, since they represent something quite different, and with mobile offices expanding these day they were maybe just a bit ahead of their time.  However I have a portable stapler from the 90s that folds flatter than a single layer Ranger is black and way cool from some European manufacturer, so Wenger was by no means the first to consifer this segment, but they did add many interesting tools to the mix.  However; it's always better to have a separate knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 16, 2013, 04:46:17 AM
When I think of Wenger, I think of these...so to me...they are iconic. Going to have to disagree with you.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on July 16, 2013, 04:53:55 AM
When I think of Wenger, I think of these...so to me...they are iconic. Going to have to disagree with you.
It's such a genius tool I wish they were still available today as I would still use it.  I still can't get over the dissolution of Wenger ... I have to pinch myself daily  ::)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sir_mike on July 16, 2013, 05:02:03 AM
I havent owned many Wenger's but the one I carried and liked was the Teton with full serrated main blade.  I really wish that they still made that one cause I dont have mine anymore! :(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 16, 2013, 07:41:46 AM
The most iconic Wenger to me oddly enough...the Swiss Business Tool. These came in 4 models, starting with the Swiss Business Tool 45, 50, 55, and 60. I managed to get all 4, but it did take some hard searching on my part, and I only got lucky once I started my search on the European Continent.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1286small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1286small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1285small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1285small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1283small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1283small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1281small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1281small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1278small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1278small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1276small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1276small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1279small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1279small.jpg.html)

Nice selection of Swiss BusinessTools!  :tu:

A dealer in Switzerland claimed that the BusinessTool is what wrecked Wenger. Apparently the company spent millions developing and tooling up for it, only to have it bomb. He noted he could walk down the street and buy a decent stapler in an office supply store for a few SwissFrancs, and everyone else did.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 16, 2013, 10:36:59 AM
To just agree with both Francis and Chako, I would consider it an iconic failure.  :)
While you all probably know how much I'm in love with the Wenger brand, I must admit that they failed really hard on this.
Don't really know what they were thinking while developing this tool.
Chances that a businessman would need a mutitool on his desk are close to none, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 16, 2013, 10:46:18 AM
I have a Business Tool and do actually use it. I wouldn't personally say it was iconic either (just personal opinion), but it certainly embodies the adventurous nature of the company.

It doesn't function better than standard office equipment, nor offer any significant benefit over having a separate stapler, scissors, extractor etc etc ... but it's quirky, fun, very clever, and very well made
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 16, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
It's such a genius tool I wish they were still available today as I would still use it.  I still can't get over the dissolution of Wenger ... I have to pinch myself daily  ::)
I just checked ebay and all models were still available.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 17, 2013, 01:40:09 AM
I just checked eBay.ca...and yes, all models are now listed. 2 sellers now have them up for sale. That is just great actually. When I looked for them a while back, they were impossible to find on this side of the ditch.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 17, 2013, 04:13:11 AM
I had the black knife in this set for a while, but could not really find out much information on it, I was not even sure who made it, I think it was sold as a Victorinox, but of course it looked for close to some of the previous Wengers we've seen with the imitation tortoise-shell and what appears to be an imitation-horn.

I picked up the extra one last week and one of them has the Tahara stamp like the previous similar ones, so I'm pretty sure these are all infact Wenger knives, or they were made by another cutler and sold by more than one company.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=51400;image)

Adding one more to the group.  This one is in nice shape, but has no emblem on the scales, both sides are clean.  Blade is stamped Wenger Tahara, and one side of the main blade (the reverse) has some pretty visible machining marks left even after the high polish.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46068.0;attach=53980;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 17, 2013, 04:48:06 PM

Adding one more to the group.  This one is in nice shape, but has no emblem on the scales, both sides are clean.  Blade is stamped Wenger Tahara, and one side of the main blade (the reverse) has some pretty visible machining marks left even after the high polish.



Nice set you have there!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 18, 2013, 12:01:12 AM
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 18, 2013, 10:28:17 AM
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.

Very nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 18, 2013, 12:40:51 PM
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.

Very nice!

+1 That is a nice group. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 18, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
Finally managed to pick up a Wenger Porsche Cigar Cutter; to round out my set of Wenger Porsches.

Very nice!

+1 That is a nice group. :tu:
Yes very nice and you found a black one.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Peter_Muller on July 18, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
I love the evowood Collection. They have a very nice wood handle.

Did you know, that there will be an Collectors Edition available end of this year ?

It is call United Woods 2013 Limited Edition.

see:
http://www.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 18, 2013, 03:33:20 PM
I love the evowood Collection. They have a very nice wood handle.

Did you know, that there will be an Collectors Edition available end of this year ?

It is call United Woods 2013 Limited Edition.

see:
http://www.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993

I heard about this set some months ago....
The following informations need to be confirmed.
However, price around € 80/knife (there are six knives in the set).
Total units made: 2013
Shipment appr. November 2013
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 18, 2013, 08:58:41 PM
Great looking set. But over $600? That's going to take some serious thought. :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on July 18, 2013, 11:14:35 PM
Special Wenger Commander with inserts and 700 year anniversary markings.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/07/wenger-commander-700-year-anniversary.html
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvjOl-66Qbk/UehKtzw5qqI/AAAAAAAAhno/M-5qZTYD8sc/s800/Wenger%252520700%252520Year%252520Anniversary-03.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 18, 2013, 11:58:29 PM
Special Wenger Commander with inserts and 700 year anniversary markings.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/07/wenger-commander-700-year-anniversary.html
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvjOl-66Qbk/UehKtzw5qqI/AAAAAAAAhno/M-5qZTYD8sc/s800/Wenger%252520700%252520Year%252520Anniversary-03.JPG)

Interesting. Seen the metal version of that several times before, but never the plastic version. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 19, 2013, 12:29:39 AM
A snipit of 1970 catalog information from a "Preview Brochure" by Pricise.  Some of you must have seen it before because it was the most expensive two pages I ever bought.  Of corse there is always those forum lurkers as well.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2896)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2897)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 19, 2013, 02:59:39 AM
A snipit of 1970 catalog information from a "Preview Brochure" by Pricise.  Some of you must have seen it before because it was the most expensive two pages I ever bought.  Of corse there is always those forum lurkers as well.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2896)

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2897)

Thanks for posting that. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: colt 1911 on July 19, 2013, 06:08:55 AM
Picked up the Major

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/19/gyhy7uga.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sir_mike on July 19, 2013, 06:29:46 AM
I like the Teton with the full serrated main blade.  I had one or two and traded them away.  I wish I still had them.

If anyone ever comes across one, please let me know! :D

Thx.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 19, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
A snipit of 1970 catalog information from a "Preview Brochure" by Pricise.  Some of you must have seen it before because it was the most expensive two pages I ever bought.  Of corse there is always those forum lurkers as well.


Thanks for the pictures!
I was the first bidder.
Since the auction was ending at like 4 o'clock in the morning here, I placed earlier a crazy bid of around $ 45 and went to bed, thinking that I was going to win.
I was also assuming that the Precise catalog had more pages on Wenger, not only two.
Anyway, next day, was really surprised to see that I didn't win.
So Francis, I understand it hurts a little, but even not considering the second higher bidder (don't know who is he), this catalog were not going to be sold only for few dollars.
The seller was smart enough to use the words "swiss army knife" in the auction's title, that I think was the reason the auction was noticed.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 19, 2013, 10:06:21 AM
Picked up the Major

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/19/gyhy7uga.jpg)

Nice, perhaps you could try to polish a little the main blade.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: colt 1911 on July 19, 2013, 02:02:22 PM
Picked up the Major



Nice, perhaps you could try to polish a little the main blade.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.

Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 19, 2013, 03:37:36 PM
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.

Ok, model 1.23.03.02 added to the wiki.
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2898)

Just keep in mind that the name "Major" (along with "Colonel"), while useful for reference, is not official, but only given by a specific distributor. At least, this is what I think.
To show this, I have uploaded on the wiki a 2 pages italian brochure from the 1990-1995 time period.
You can find it in this gallery
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=70
You can see that many models had a name applied (sometimes similar to the english counterpart, sometimes completely different), but this was done only for the italian market.
P.S. Funny thing is about the name of the Tool Chest Plus
"Superdotato" could mean, italian, both talented (so the reference to the Supertalent), but also has a very explicit sexual reference  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 19, 2013, 03:41:20 PM

Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
I had few Wenger blades re-polished, by I had the work done professionaly by a shop.
Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to do these kind of jobs, but I'm sure there are here on this forum people who knows how to do it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: colt 1911 on July 19, 2013, 03:58:34 PM

Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.
I had few Wenger blades re-polished, by I had the work done professionaly by a shop.
Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to do these kind of jobs, but I'm sure there are here on this forum people who knows how to do it.

 Thanks for the info, appreciate it !! Your black one is real nice.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 20, 2013, 04:13:26 PM
Latest Wenger is a Ranger Ap Blaze 50, i already got this in Snow Camo but i could not resist this in Ap Blaze. This is an excellent size (thickness). I can live With that the cutout in the scale for the missing awl. Very well put together!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=54236;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on July 20, 2013, 08:18:36 PM
Wenger EVO Grip 10 Blackout model. This one is used and bought that way so now you can see what wears on these things. So far it looks like only the scales and some around the backside liners area where the key chain was.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/07/wenger-evogrip-10-blackout.html
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2PAx4O_wLOQ/UeBe2kC-z3I/AAAAAAAAhYI/ZG9mlvOvZhs/s800/DSCN0816.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 22, 2013, 10:46:34 AM
Latest Wenger is a Ranger Ap Blaze 50, i already got this in Snow Camo but i could not resist this in Ap Blaze. This is an excellent size (thickness). I can live With that the cutout in the scale for the missing awl. Very well put together!


North Man, could you post a picture of the back side?
I would like to see myself the cutout and missing awl.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 22, 2013, 11:58:18 PM

No daylight so picture is not well, this model do not have a awl but they used the handle scale with the cutout(this is on the 50 models). It is absolutely no problem , the knife is really well put together and the quality just really high.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 23, 2013, 10:20:08 AM

No daylight so picture is not well, this model do not have a awl but they used the handle scale with the cutout(this is on the 50 models). It is absolutely no problem , the knife is really well put together and the quality just really high.
Thanks.
Yes, agree that it is not a big issue.
It would probably had been too expensive to design a special back scale only for the few models without the awl.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on July 24, 2013, 09:52:01 AM
Hi
my Mike Horn and Wenger 120-mm
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bmot on July 24, 2013, 10:13:10 AM
Just giving my giveaway a bit of notice here, I'm giving away a Wenger Ranger right here in the Swiss Forum, go and join in on the fun!  :pok: :pok: :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on July 24, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Picked up the Major



Nice, perhaps you could try to polish a little the main blade.
I think I need to upload on the wiki a picture of model 1.23.03.02 which was basically the black color version of this knife.

Yeah it's pretty scratched, have any tricks or thoughts on how to remove them.

I used a small block of wood. First I wrap it with 400 grit, then 600, then 800, then 1000, all wet-and-dry paper, use water. Finish with some 1500 grit Crocus paper, no water this time. Finally some simichrome.
It'll look like new then.
Trouble is, the buffing may become addictive with your other knives.
Same technique works well with plastic scales too. The whole knife gets that burnished, well-loved look.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on July 24, 2013, 05:01:31 PM
I have a few here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/108996412471234378688/albums/5904196218915819729/5904196218389116626?authkey=CK6Wk6r61_StLg
Got a few more Pocket ToolChests upstairs too.
I really like the compactness of the 85mm versions, ideally with the Evogrip 18/Vic Hunstsman tool layout.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 24, 2013, 05:21:33 PM
Hi
my Mike Horn and Wenger 120-mm

Very nice!
I bought myself the red Mike Horn, thanks to the link you provided.
It is a nice looking knife....and would be nicer with the standard no-Evo scales  >:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Bruce909 on July 26, 2013, 02:04:07 AM
I sure am going to miss Wegner
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: pfrsantos on July 26, 2013, 02:09:23 PM
You can still find some Wenger around. I have some recently bought but am keeping them as collection items. Someday they'll make me rich!!!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 27, 2013, 02:34:15 PM
I love the evowood Collection. They have a very nice wood handle.

Did you know, that there will be an Collectors Edition available end of this year ?

It is call United Woods 2013 Limited Edition.

see:
http://www.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993

Looks like this was an early leak (intended maybe), but the Wenger page is no longer accessible. 

I think this looks GREAT!   :drool: :drool: :drool:

It will be another great Christmas if they get this set put together, what a great idea to celebrate their history in Swiss Army Knives.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 28, 2013, 10:55:29 PM
Cache page of the "United Wood" set
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gUmFM9REU4QJ:fr.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993+wenger.ch+United+Woods+2013+Limited+Edition+Collectors'+Set+Swiss+Army+Knives&cd=2&hl=it&ct=clnk&gl=it
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on July 28, 2013, 11:43:12 PM
I just checked & found that their North American site is indeed down but their Swiss site is still in operation. I wonder for how long?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 29, 2013, 12:39:45 AM
Thanks I could not get the google.com cached page, when I tried it would just give me 404, but I managed to get a nice clean cached page from Bing.

What I was not able to get was any of the cached pages for any of the detail pages; can you get those?  Maybe I'll try again for those from the French google site.

Update: never mind; it is working today.   :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 29, 2013, 01:56:19 PM
Since it looks like Wenger is not ready to publish all this, I'll just post a teazer.  Looks like the blades will have a special etching for the series.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=54690;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 29, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
I honestly don't understand the reason Wenger wanted to include a standard S557 in the set.
OK, it will have the engraving on the blade and it is a kind of flagship for the company, but it is the only model without the wood handles.
A single cellidor knife inside a box with others five wood models, doesn't match the whole idea of "United Wood" so well, in my opinion.
Plus, the cost could had been, without the S557, somehow lower.
I'm attaching an image of the set, for those who missed it
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3466/66tp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/66tp.jpg/)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on July 30, 2013, 03:59:10 PM
The S557 tho, according to CEO Peter Hug, is their trimmest model that has every Wenger "exclusivity": Packlock, self-locking drivers, "universal" wrench, adjustable pliers, and "springless" scissors.  But yeah, why not wood grips?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 30, 2013, 05:19:23 PM
This United Woods with the different continent Wood handles looks very interesting! I would like to have a set depending on the cost. It would also be a good idea i feel to be able to buy a knife separate, but this i do not know if possible? The set is just  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 30, 2013, 05:55:05 PM
According to the informations I had, price should be around CHF 590 for the set, but it needs to be confirmed.
That would make around 80 euros/knife.
I wish too that the knives could be available separately, but I doubt.
It would be probably better to wait and see if the prices will drop after some time, like it happened with the Heritage.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on July 30, 2013, 07:56:51 PM

Yes we must wait and see, 590 CHF (SwissFrancs) = 477 Euro or 633 USD for the whole set sounds plausible.

I see this set as very collectable and a statement from Wenger on wood handle knives, i would expect the different woods to have different difficulties making them, would be interesting to hear what if they say.

I also doubt individual or separate knives sold, still i believe the Evo or Ranger got much more potential that just only Walnut, i do like them and the "woodgrain" the Swiss love.  Masur Birch would be stunning  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on July 30, 2013, 09:47:52 PM

Yes we must wait and see, 590 CHF (SwissFrancs) = 477 Euro or 633 USD for the whole set sounds plausible.

 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

I'll pass on that I reckon

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on July 30, 2013, 09:52:19 PM
You have a good point on the Red handles, they could have done the Swiss Walnut EvoWood for that one.

I guess though this is a celebration of their Swiss Army Knife heritage/legacy so while the wooden handle ones are for their history on 5 different continents I can see it sort of makes sense to include 1 red handled model as well, it's like the base of the tree which grew fruit.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on July 30, 2013, 10:55:07 PM
You have a good point on the Red handles, they could have done the Swiss Walnut EvoWood for that one.

I guess though this is a celebration of their Swiss Army Knife heritage/legacy so while the wooden handle ones are for their history on 5 different continents I can see it sort of makes sense to include 1 red handled model as well, it's like the base of the tree which grew fruit.

Yeah that's a cool way to put it. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vemo on August 02, 2013, 09:54:38 AM
Cache page of the "United Wood" set
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gUmFM9REU4QJ:fr.wenger.ch/united-woods-16993+wenger.ch+United+Woods+2013+Limited+Edition+Collectors'+Set+Swiss+Army+Knives&cd=2&hl=it&ct=clnk&gl=it

Just found
http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Not cheap!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 02, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
Thanks! Snagged the large set image and made it better.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 02, 2013, 02:05:29 PM
Yes thanks for info, expencive set and to much for now. I know some wood material may be very expencive and also difficult to make/shape. Just a thought :think:

Anyhow my latest Ranger is a 55 with black scales, it is esthetic and very well put together.


(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=54961;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 02, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
Yes thanks for info, expencive set and to much for now. I know some wood material may be very expencive and also difficult to make/shape. Just a thought :think:

Anyhow my latest Ranger is a 55 with black scales, it is esthetic and very well put together.


And the backsprings on them are very strong. The saw spring also has a bump that "locks" the saw in place when open and makes it much harder to close accidentally on you while using it. :tu: Very good feature.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 02, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Yes thanks for info, expencive set and to much for now. I know some wood material may be very expencive and also difficult to make/shape. Just a thought :think:

Anyhow my latest Ranger is a 55 with black scales, it is esthetic and very well put together.


And the backsprings on them are very strong. The saw spring also has a bump that "locks" the saw in place when open and makes it much harder to close accidentally on you while using it. :tu: Very good feature.

Yes, they are very developed tools :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 02, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
A Picture of the blade opened, razor sharp
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 07, 2013, 09:47:05 AM
Any idea about this knife?
Seems like a Cyclist (without the imprint on the front scale), but has the main blade locking and fully serrated.
Did I miss something?
 ???

Edit: with much surprise I found a reference on the web about this knife
http://www.mindspring.com/~schooob/stpatrick.htm
Scroll down to the middle of the page and you will see a catalog picture.
The knife is called "Serrated Cyclist".
Unless someone has additional informations, I guess we have probably a new Cyclist variation here!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on August 07, 2013, 02:56:24 PM
I now have love for Wenger due to the sweet little gem I recently purchased, the EvoGrip 16 :D  Wonderful urban SAK that has all the basics that I really like to have in a SAK :tu: 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 07, 2013, 08:25:38 PM
OK, Wenger lovers need a bit of info.

When did the Wenger corkscrew change?

The older ones were a bit thicker and the turns were different too.

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/SAK/P8070015_zps47b3d2ce.jpg)


Discussion on it started here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,46561
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 08, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
OK, Wenger lovers need a bit of info.

When did the Wenger corkscrew change?

The older ones were a bit thicker and the turns were different too.


Sorry, I don't know when the change was made.
Perhaps North Man could answer.
By the way, I just wished they never replaced the old type "5 turns" corkscrew. It was smaller in diameter, and fitted much better the knife, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 08, 2013, 04:50:18 PM
OK, Wenger lovers need a bit of info.

When did the Wenger corkscrew change?

The older ones were a bit thicker and the turns were different too.


Sorry, I don't know when the change was made.
Perhaps North Man could answer.
By the way, I just wished they never replaced the old type "5 turns" corkscrew. It was smaller in diameter, and fitted much better the knife, in my opinion.

Hi
i am sure this date may have variations, so far i have 1979-1980 on the corkscrew change
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 08, 2013, 05:01:01 PM
Thanks, North Man. :cheers: I knew I could count on you guys. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 08, 2013, 05:28:34 PM

you are welcome :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 08, 2013, 06:22:10 PM

Hi
i am sure this date may have variations, so far i have 1979-1980 on the corkscrew change

I was sure you knew  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on August 09, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
... Yes ...       (the question to my answer is the subject  ;)  )

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F1Itlbg0qCw/UgTgn4OEgaI/AAAAAAAAH5o/mAGLjFTSwmo/s800/DSCN4308_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-INSslJ7rmdU/UgTgn0XsZZI/AAAAAAAAH5k/QKlyIxeEWUk/s800/DSCN4290_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: RamoN on August 09, 2013, 05:49:18 PM
Hey wenger lovers, i am a big wenger fan by the way, has anyone seen this variation of the alinghi before? I couldnt find it in the wiki by the alinghi name at least.

http://www.swissmade.com/en/shop/image_popup.php?id=5943

It says it was developed for the alpine club but it looks like it would be one early alinghi prototype because of the new ranger blade, scales and safety lock but with the old ranger pliers and small inline phillips and the old alinghi small flat screwdriver. It has a cool engraving on the blade too.

You can get it here (for a pretty high price) http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 10, 2013, 12:36:56 AM
Hey wenger lovers, i am a big wenger fan by the way, has anyone seen this variation of the alinghi before? I couldnt find it in the wiki by the alinghi name at least.

http://www.swissmade.com/en/shop/image_popup.php?id=5943

It says it was developed for the alpine club but it looks like it would be one early alinghi prototype because of the new ranger blade, scales and safety lock but with the old ranger pliers and small inline phillips and the old alinghi small flat screwdriver. It has a cool engraving on the blade too.

You can get it here (for a pretty high price) http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife

It's one of a number of special knives Wenger has done for the Swiss Alpine Club (SAC) and the Alpine Club of Switzerland.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: RamoN on August 10, 2013, 12:51:46 AM
Hey wenger lovers, i am a big wenger fan by the way, has anyone seen this variation of the alinghi before? I couldnt find it in the wiki by the alinghi name at least.

http://www.swissmade.com/en/shop/image_popup.php?id=5943

It says it was developed for the alpine club but it looks like it would be one early alinghi prototype because of the new ranger blade, scales and safety lock but with the old ranger pliers and small inline phillips and the old alinghi small flat screwdriver. It has a cool engraving on the blade too.

You can get it here (for a pretty high price) http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife

It's one of a number of special knives Wenger has done for the Swiss Alpine Club (SAC) and the Alpine Club of Switzerland.

Thanks, its strange they decided to keep the small pliers for that alinghi version.

That alpine club set is very beatiful  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 10, 2013, 03:15:58 AM
Love it! Some more great pictures there Martin and Karl.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 10, 2013, 04:17:25 PM
Here is a small display case which is the second piece in the "forbidden word" series.  I'm guessing this display was put together by the US importer Precise because the knife in the top right is from Japan and has their imprint advertising on the blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 14, 2013, 09:29:13 AM
I got some info from Wenger on the United Woods set:

They will not be sold separate but only as a set, much work put into them!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=55645;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 14, 2013, 09:35:11 AM

Woods:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Storky on August 14, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 14, 2013, 01:23:32 PM
The owner of that shop was the one that posted the first picture of it here in this thread. He hasn't logged in since though. :shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rberlin on August 14, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
Here is a small display case which is the second piece in the "forbidden word" series.  I'm guessing this display was put together by the US importer Precise because the knife in the top right is from Japan and has their imprint advertising on the blade.
That University of Michigan scale is pretty sweet.  You should find a knife for it, unless it's broken.
I'm very jealous. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 14, 2013, 05:04:34 PM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus
I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:

2013 is a very special year for the WENGER brand.
For a start, we are celebrating our 120th birthday.
It is also the last year in which WENGER knives are
being produced. To mark this occasion, we
decided to design a very special and exclusive 2013
sets limited collection that highlights and
impressively demonstrates the innovation and
globality of the WENGER brand.


probarbly it is 2013 pieces made, not sure. My info say they will be available in October.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 14, 2013, 05:10:53 PM

I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:
...

:cheers:     and      :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 15, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus
I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:

2013 is a very special year for the WENGER brand.
For a start, we are celebrating our 120th birthday.
It is also the last year in which WENGER knives are
being produced. To mark this occasion, we
decided to design a very special and exclusive 2013
sets limited collection that highlights and
impressively demonstrates the innovation and
globality of the WENGER brand.


probarbly it is 2013 pieces made, not sure. My info say they will be available in October.

Very nice set :tu: but too expensive :rant: !

I think we should find the same (but cheaper) on other websites store in Germany or in Switzerland.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 15, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus
I hope it is ok i post this info :tu:

2013 is a very special year for the WENGER brand.
For a start, we are celebrating our 120th birthday.
It is also the last year in which WENGER knives are
being produced. To mark this occasion, we
decided to design a very special and exclusive 2013
sets limited collection that highlights and
impressively demonstrates the innovation and
globality of the WENGER brand.


probarbly it is 2013 pieces made, not sure. My info say they will be available in October.

Very nice set :tu: but too expensive :rant: !

I think we should find the same (but cheaper) on other websites store in Germany or in Switzerland.

Yes it is on the expensive side,  probably the collectable value on these will be very high in the near future.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 17, 2013, 03:04:22 AM
I think this will be a very nice set.  The information I have says there are 2013 sets.   I'd sure LOVE to have number 13 or number 1  :ahhh.  The marketing images looks pretty good and the box looks really nice as well. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 17, 2013, 02:07:34 PM
I love old Wengers...


1920's or before... This one is broken and it's waiting to be repared...
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2070.JPG)

1930's to 1950's
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2069.JPG)

1950's
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2067.JPG)

1950's
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2066.JPG)

1960's
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2064.JPG)

1970's
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/_DSC2063.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on August 17, 2013, 05:59:20 PM
Old wengers are really 8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 17, 2013, 09:04:20 PM
Those are VERY nice.  There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 17, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
Those are VERY nice.  There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order.  What do you think?

With informations I have (from Wenger, catalogs and others sources) I think it's the good order, but... Nobody can be absolutly sure.

Lot of Wenger timeline we can find on the web and some time in books are wrong so we have to read it carfully...

But if you have more informations about this period I would be pleased to know them.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on August 17, 2013, 10:35:36 PM
Loads of love for this Wenger!¡!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/18/mypubezu.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on August 17, 2013, 11:17:12 PM
That's one cool Wenger Terry :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on August 20, 2013, 02:40:05 AM
Those are VERY nice.  There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order.  What do you think?
If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43:  the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.   
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 20, 2013, 03:25:06 AM
Those are VERY nice.  There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order.  What do you think?
If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43:  the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.
Yes that's the picture I was referring to. I think I have that shield on a knife with carbon blades, black fiber handles, and a very old tool (threaded drill bit), but let me check again as I've been too busy to pay close attention to my SAKs.  What is the length of the knife in the picture?

Does anyone know the name of the tool that looks like a course threaded drill bit? It's quite common on very old pocket knives from other manufacturers, but I don't have a name for it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 20, 2013, 11:40:59 AM
Those are VERY nice.  There is a picture of some old Wengers in the SAK-OM book, but I think the timeline one has at least the first two knives on the left in the wrong order.  What do you think?
If you mean the Evolution of Wengers on page 43:  the second one with the weird plastic shield has stainless steel blades so it is likely that the first one, with carbon steel, is older. But yeah, Wenger history, what with the devastating factory fire of 1986, records lost, is hazy at best.
Yes that's the picture I was referring to. I think I have that shield on a knife with carbon blades, black fiber handles, and a very old tool (threaded drill bit), but let me check again as I've been too busy to pay close attention to my SAKs.  What is the length of the knife in the picture?

Does anyone know the name of the tool that looks like a course threaded drill bit? It's quite common on very old pocket knives from other manufacturers, but I don't have a name for it.

@ICanFixThat & J Mackrel Jones

Hello gentlemen,

The length of the first knife is 90 or 91 mm and length of the second knife is 80 mm.

I have the same doubts as you for these 2 knives and I have also read the page 43 of the book "The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual" by Michael Young witch is a very good book.
So I can only bring more informations :
- For these 2 knives, blades are in stainless steel (not carbon steel)
- It seems, but it is not sure, that Wenger has used stainless steel as early perhaps in 1915 or 1919 so before Victorinox (1921 or 1923 according to speSmurfpillsts) 
- In a catalog "Wenger & Co" dating from 1908 to 1922, we can already see the logo of the first knife handle, but not the logo of the 2nd  knife. (I'm sorry I can't post pictures on this forum because of a copyright)
- The first knive is stamped "Wenger Tahara" with the 3 faces triangle logo of "Coutellerie Suisse", the second is only stamped "Wenger Tahara".
For these reasons I have assumed that the first knife would be a bit older than the second.

I have also an old "Coutellerie Suisse" with carbon steel blades and only a 3 faces triangle stamp on the blade but without logo on handles, I guess we can estimate its dating between 1910 and 1920 :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

With Wenger it is difficult to locate only with carbon steel or stainless steel, because it seems that the use of these two steels continued into the 1950s for some other knives as the third and fourth knife pictures, whitch year is identified by the stamp : 1951.

I suppose also that the logos on handles of the 2 first knives were produced over a same period of overlap, it can be 5 or 10 years, but I am pretty sure that the origin of the 1st logo is prior to the 2nd, because of the catalog "Wenger & Co".

   

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 20, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
Thanks for the information.  I don't think there can be any copyright left on a published work over 100 years old, let alone a catalog from that date.  If it is a more recent reprint of the catalog contained in another publication what is the name of that publication?

My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 20, 2013, 02:11:58 PM
Thanks for the information.  I don't think there can be any copyright left on a published work over 100 years old, let alone a catalog from that date.  If it is a more recent reprint of the catalog contained in another publication what is the name of that publication?

....


These are photos of a guenine Wenger & Co catalog and the source is verified and true. But these photos are copyrighted by a french forum and contains links to stores website.
I promised to Grant Lamontagne I will not post direct link nor photos with links. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on August 20, 2013, 04:25:51 PM
Mr Young says that the first knife in the page 43 photo is without doubt carbon steel with carbon steel liners and divider, and the second one stainless with nickle-silver liners and divider, and that the first one (tang stamp Wenger Delemont) measures just over 92 mm, the second one (tang stamp Wenger Tahara) 82 mm.
Wenger has said they made a model 112 with stainless steel starting in 1919.  Is there any documentation of an earlier date for stainless steel by Wenger (or  by Victorinox)?  Victorinox has given their date as both 1921 and 1923. 
Would love to see the "insect in an oval" Wenger tang stamp !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 20, 2013, 05:07:16 PM
Mr Young says that the first knife in the page 43 photo is without doubt carbon steel with carbon steel liners and divider, and the second one stainless with nickle-silver liners and divider, and that the first one (tang stamp Wenger Delemont) measures just over 92 mm, the second one (tang stamp Wenger Tahara) 82 mm.
Wenger has said they made a model 112 with stainless steel starting in 1919.  Is there any documentation of an earlier date for stainless steel by Wenger (or  by Victorinox)?  Victorinox has given their date as both 1921 and 1923. 
Would love to see the "insect in an oval" Wenger tang stamp !

Yes, I saw that, but mine (like the first on page 43) is stainless steel with nickel-silver liners without doubt too !
And I have another (is actually in repair so I have no photo) with stainless steel blades, carbon steel liners and a bail.

My first knife on photos (like the second one of page 43) is also stainless steel with stainless steel with nickel-silver liners.

So I think differents logos were produced over a same period of overlap and Wenger used both carbon steel and stainless steel for several knives on a same period.

I have no more information on the beginning of the use of stainless steel in Wenger brand and I think that the year 1919 mentioned in the book of M Young is probably true. 

I will visit the Wenger factory in few days, I hope I will have more informations...

I would like to see the "insect in an oval" too and also the old tool (threaded drill bit) ! Could you post photos ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 20, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
...... Would love to see the "insect in an oval" Wenger tang stamp !
I think you misread my post. The tang on mine "has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades".

The 'insect in an oval' is just an imprint stamped into the bottom scale.

Pictures coming when I can.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on August 21, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
Ah yes, you did say Bottom scale.
Wenger (make that Boechat) had some zany tang stamps and I got excited.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on August 21, 2013, 06:15:16 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mr. Whippy on August 21, 2013, 11:20:55 PM
To just agree with both Francis and Chako, I would consider it an iconic failure.  :)
While you all probably know how much I'm in love with the Wenger brand, I must admit that they failed really hard on this.
Don't really know what they were thinking while developing this tool.
Chances that a businessman would need a mutitool on his desk are close to none, in my opinion.

I use my Wenger BT nearly every day!  It's actually quite functional! :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Tyler_ on August 23, 2013, 03:07:07 AM
Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but does anyone if Wenger will do a final run of the Standard Issue knife?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 23, 2013, 09:20:48 AM
Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but does anyone if Wenger will do a final run of the Standard Issue knife?

I think no : the last run was in 2012 with a model without swiss cross shield (a copy of the first model 1961 of soldier knife but without "waffenkontrole"). It was a "bye bye" serie.

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/swiss_army_70.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/wenger_standard_issue_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 23, 2013, 09:23:17 AM
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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on August 23, 2013, 04:26:40 PM
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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 24, 2013, 10:48:30 PM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 24, 2013, 11:50:49 PM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)

Surprised your pants aren't down around your knees.  :o

At least you've proven the Giant IS pocketable.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on August 25, 2013, 12:24:30 AM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)
:D :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 25, 2013, 12:51:43 AM
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42565.0;attach=56191;image)

Surprised your pants aren't down around your knees.  :o

At least you've proven the Giant IS pocketable.  :tu:

:rolf:

Are you wearing suspenders too? :D

Glad it arrived safely. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rmagralha on August 25, 2013, 02:02:31 AM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus

Cant read German, anyone knows if they ship internationally? Overseas?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 25, 2013, 02:17:06 AM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus

Cant read German, anyone knows if they ship internationally? Overseas?

Only to EU countries, but you could ask them. The owner joined here 2 months ago to tell us about them so he must speak English too. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rmagralha on August 25, 2013, 04:01:56 AM
Wenger limited Woods.

Available aprox at Nov 2013. Number of sets unknown (pic says 0001/2013)?

http://www.mein-taschenmesser.de/wenger/evowood/wenger-united-woods-2013-limited-edition-collectors-set/a-822291/

Greetz

Markus

Cant read German, anyone knows if they ship internationally? Overseas?

Only to EU countries, but you could ask them. The owner joined here 2 months ago to tell us about them so he must speak English too. ;)

Thank you!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 25, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 25, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.

Yes it is interesting, seen some use and is a nice find! Congratulations on the Giant knife :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 25, 2013, 07:49:30 PM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.

Waoooooooo ! Very Nice !

For the "threaded drill bit", I don't know the english word but in french it's a "vrille", it was used to  make a small hole in the very hard wood before putting a screw, to facilitate the wiring accession.

Are the handles in black fibers ?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 25, 2013, 08:53:39 PM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56211;image)


Really cool acquisition at a nice price too. I had it in my watched list. Thought it might go higher. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on August 25, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Sweet score Enki^-^

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 25, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
Sweet score Enki^-^

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2



You mean. ICFT. ;) I just quoted Francis, it's his SAK. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 25, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.

Waoooooooo ! Very Nice !

For the "threaded drill bit", I don't know the english word but in french it's a "vrille", it was used to  make a small hole in the very hard wood before putting a screw, to facilitate the wiring accession.

Are the handles in black fibers ?

Thanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.

Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber. 

After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound.  The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales.  None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing.  Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syph007 on August 25, 2013, 10:25:33 PM
Oops, posted here by accident :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on August 25, 2013, 10:25:51 PM
Sweet score Enki^-^

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk 2



You mean. ICFT. ;) I just quoted Francis, it's his SAK. :D

Oops, sorry:-[  nice score ICFT:))

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on August 25, 2013, 11:24:10 PM
Waoooooooo ! Very Nice !

For the "threaded drill bit", I don't know the english word but in french it's a "vrille", it was used to  make a small hole in the very hard wood before putting a screw, to facilitate the wiring accession.

Are the handles in black fibers ?



I ran vrille through Google translate and it came up with spin.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 25, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
Quote
Thanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.

Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.

After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound.  The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales.  None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing.  Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.

When I find an old knife like yours, I send it in a small workshop near the Swiss border, there is a craftsman who fully dismounts it, exchange broken parts, put new handles, etc.
At the end, the knife is like a new one with genine parts or redo parts as guenine.

For example, he repaired me an old Victorinox 234k model  (1942's) and he gaves me all photos step by step (here only 3 photos, just to see what he's able to do) :

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/110.jpg)

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/310.jpg)

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/610.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on August 26, 2013, 12:43:22 AM
@JC - WOW!! THAT is IMPRESSIVE!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 26, 2013, 12:45:12 AM
...
My knife,carbon steel, with the red shield/white cross inlay has WENGER DELMONT with 3 faces logo on both the small and large blades which are in separate layers; both pivot at the top of the knife.  It has an interesting imprint on the bottom scale of some insect in an oval, hard to see now.

It's interesting that Wenger's 100 year anniversary book does not mention this shield.

Pictures when I have more time. 

Three quick pictures of this interesting knife.  I'm guessing this model would fall into their early Farmer/Peasant line.

Outstanding score!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 26, 2013, 12:46:42 AM
Quote
Thanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.

Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.

After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound.  The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales.  None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing.  Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.

When I find an old knife like yours, I send it in a small workshop near the Swiss border, there is a craftsman who fully dismounts it, exchange broken parts, put new handles, etc.
At the end, the knife is like a new one with genine parts or redo parts as guenine.

For example, he repaired me an old Victorinox 234k model  (1942's) and he gaves me all photos step by step (here only 3 photos, just to see what he's able to do) :

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/110.jpg)

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/310.jpg)

(http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/610.jpg)

That is a beautiful piece of restoration.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 26, 2013, 02:22:13 AM
Quote
Thanks, that makes sense; the English word would be Auger, and explains why on some old knives it's designed more like a drill-bit than a course screw thread.

Yes the handles applear to be a black fiber.

After the heavy use this knife has seen the saw layer still snaps shut with a nice sound.  The other layers need some cleaning, but I want to be careful because of the old scales.  None of the tools are broken which I think is amazing.  Take a look at the size of that nail nick on the main blade.

When I find an old knife like yours, I send it in a small workshop near the Swiss border, there is a craftsman who fully dismounts it, exchange broken parts, put new handles, etc.
At the end, the knife is like a new one with genine parts or redo parts as guenine.

For example, he repaired me an old Victorinox 234k model  (1942's) and he gaves me all photos step by step (here only 3 photos, just to see what he's able to do) :

<Image-2> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/110.jpg)

<image-2> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/310.jpg)

<Image-3> (http://i79.servimg.com/u/f79/17/57/54/47/610.jpg)

That is a beautiful piece of restoration.  :tu:

+1   :tu:  :tu:  :salute:

I wish we had a local expert restorer.  I've seen a few super restorations done by different people; there are some real masters out there.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on August 26, 2013, 05:13:40 AM
The auger is cool! Although with vic's current reamer there is no need for one. (At least not on vic knives on wengers it could be useful)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on August 28, 2013, 10:46:12 PM
An aggressively looking blade ...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPxkFGiT9lo/Uh5gnwSxvvI/AAAAAAAAIFM/B4A0s9584EE/s800/DSCN4277_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 29, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Some of the latest SAKs:

Si with bail from 1980 and a 1987 Professional line + a nice embossed in silver - a Trout from the sportsman presentation most likely. This is from the early 80s. I had this before with pad print.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 29, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
PS it is not called a Trout but it is a variation of the Fly Fisherman, this i have with a trout embossed got the European number 1 19 25  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on August 29, 2013, 08:21:33 PM
Just got a '90 100 Years Anniversary Wenger Soldat that came without the special box for this model, but in a beat up generic Wenger Swiss Soldiers Knife box with a curious model # on the flap:

16521

At SakWiki (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Soldat+1961+-+Standard+Issue) closest listed is:

16520 Wenger US: retail market

Anyone know what's model number 16521 and if it matches this 100 Years Anniversary model?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 29, 2013, 09:16:48 PM

Looks great Marius :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on August 29, 2013, 10:01:11 PM
Thanks :cheers:

If anyone knows if the box and model number can match this 100 Years Anniversary '90 SI, please let me know.

With it I got a '81 Soldat which upon closest inspection appears unused :) 

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56468;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56470;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 30, 2013, 03:30:45 PM
Thanks :cheers:

If anyone knows if the box and model number can match this 100 Years Anniversary '90 SI, please let me know.

With it I got a '81 Soldat which upon closest inspection appears unused :) 

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56468;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=56470;image)

Nice!

Today i got this Pathfinder with embossed icon(most likely from the mid 80s), the Compass is broken, that is the only negative. I got the Pathfinder with pad print also and it is interesting, there isnt so many Wenger`s with a compass. Just a few i have seen until now.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on August 31, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Good Scores everyone!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 02, 2013, 03:32:26 PM
Hello!
Here is my latest one: a Wenger "Whistle" sold by Eddie Bauer.
I'm also including a picture of the standard 1 92 71 model.
The only differences between the two are the Eddie Bauer logo on the front scale and the "Whistle" inscription on the main blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on September 03, 2013, 04:03:59 PM
Nice knives basilio :tu:

Here is a Sporty Wenger with the shoe spike tool, European number 1 92 30.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56692;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 03, 2013, 05:29:03 PM

Here is a Sporty Wenger with the shoe spike tool, European number 1 92 30.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56692;image)

Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on September 03, 2013, 06:14:02 PM

Thanks, there is also a model with the combination tool:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Soccer
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aloha on September 05, 2013, 02:52:42 AM
gotta love wenger when a co-worked brings soup but no one has an opener.  Soft Touch to the rescue and lunch is served!  the picture is my friends Wenger Soft Touch and funny thing is this is only the second time she has used it.  GO WENGER
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on September 05, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
Gotta love that Soft Touch.  The Wenger I mean.    :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 08, 2013, 12:41:53 PM

Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.

Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on September 08, 2013, 01:18:15 PM
One of Wenger knives I prefer : the soldier 1951 model...

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-1.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-2.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-3.jpg) (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on September 08, 2013, 01:45:15 PM
I just won a Wenger Showroom cabinet on eBay... :facepalm:
How do i tell my wife?
What do I do with it?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 08, 2013, 02:00:35 PM

Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.

Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image)

Very nice set. :tu: Will you be adding separate pages or combining them all under the Soccer page listed as different models? Do they have different names or are they all sold as Soccer but with different model numbers?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Blade runner on September 08, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
One of Wenger knives I prefer : the soldier 1951 model...

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-1.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-2.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-3.jpg) (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r1239-4.jpg)
This one is in my wish list. Nice one. Congrats
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 08, 2013, 06:23:03 PM

Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.

Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image)

Very nice set. :tu: Will you be adding separate pages or combining them all under the Soccer page listed as different models? Do they have different names or are they all sold as Soccer but with different model numbers?

Nice collection.  Separate pages on the wiki.  We'll have to distinguish them with their model number I think for now.  We have a similar issue with the Shredder, and the Biker as well, so maybe this is very common for the entire sports series.   Maybe use the last segment of the model number for disambiguation like Wenger started doing in recent years (E.g. Soccer 30, Soccer 31 etc.).

I'll check later if you've uploaded them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 08, 2013, 07:48:34 PM

Nice, they don't show up so often!
There is also a model which adds the scissors (1 92 31), will try to post a picture.

Sorry for the delay.
here is, I think, the complete set "Footballeur/Soccer"
First picture is model 1 92 32
Second is model 1 92 30 (same model as shown by North Man)
Last picture is model 1 92 31 (which adds scissors)
I was planning to add them to the wiki anyway.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56940;image

Very nice set. :tu: Will you be adding separate pages or combining them all under the Soccer page listed as different models? Do they have different names or are they all sold as Soccer but with different model numbers?

Nice collection.  Separate pages on the wiki.  We'll have to distinguish them with their model number I think for now.  We have a similar issue with the Shredder, and the Biker as well, so maybe this is very common for the entire sports series.   Maybe use the last segment of the model number for disambiguation like Wenger started doing in recent years (E.g. Soccer 30, Soccer 31 etc.).

I'll check later if you've uploaded them.

Hm, :think: maybe the best would be to list them in the index as Soccer Series, Shredder Series, ...  as we have with the Evo and Juniors, and then "Model" 32, "Model" 31, ... based on the identifiers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on September 08, 2013, 11:24:14 PM
Great looking set.  :tu:

Listing them under 'Soccer' in the SAKwiki is probably the way to go. Also need to do something similar with the whistles (Survivor/Signal) and compass (North Cape/Bardane)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 09, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
Yes, I think too that it would be better to list them in the index, but have them all displayed under the "soccer" page.
Perhaps adding the "Footballer" name near the word "soccer", as the "soccer" word is really used only in the USA.
This is something I had been thinking about.
Despite, for example, the time I spent creating the 1.23.13 page
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13
I think it would also be better to show this variant only in the "Major" page.
If we were going to create single pages for all the Wenger models which, for example, replace the nail file with a small blade or corkscrew with phillips, there would probably be too many pages, and the wiki could be too confusing.
What do you think?

P.S. Uploading the pictures in the wiki now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 09, 2013, 02:10:56 PM
Yes, I think too that it would be better to list them in the index, but have them all displayed under the "soccer" page.
Perhaps adding the "Footballer" name near the word "soccer", as the "soccer" word is really used only in the USA.
This is something I had been thinking about.
Despite, for example, the time I spent creating the 1.23.13 page
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...x.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.23.13)
I think it would also be better to show this variant only in the "Major" page.
If we were going to create single pages for all the Wenger models which, for example, replace the nail file with a small blade or corkscrew with phillips, there would probably be too many pages, and the wiki could be too confusing.
What do you think?

P.S. Uploading the pictures in the wiki now.


I think all models with different number of layers should have their own page. I was thinking along these lines.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=56976;image)

Just click the ? if when creating the page, the linking to the specific tool layer number pages is easy after we have the page created. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 09, 2013, 02:54:29 PM
And linking them under Related knives to other Soccer models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 09, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 09, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).

They were at least sold in Japan, as I get a lot of hits on Japanese sites and Amazon.co.jp if I google "wenger 19230". I agree we should come to a consensus of how to call them before creating the pages. Footballeur sounds good to me, maybe with a side reference "also known as Soccer"

We'd need to change the existing Soccer page title then too to Footballeur 32.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2399&scalesize=o)


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 09, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
Looks either good to me enki!
However, I would be careful about using the word "soccer" as the original name for the serie was "footballeur", at least for the 1 92 30 and 1 92 31 models (and I'm not sure if these models were ever sold outside Europe).

They were at least sold in Japan, as I get a lot of hits on Japanese sites and Amazon.co.jp if I google "wenger 19230". I agree we should come to a consensus of how to call them before creating the pages. Footballeur sounds good to me, maybe with a side reference "also known as Soccer"

We'd need to change the existing Soccer page title then too to Footballeur 32.

I have the impression the smaller model ( 1 92 32) was probably the only one sold in North America, so the name "soccer" could be correct (and even "official") for that one.
However, should be confirmed the two other models were never imported in North America, the footballer (or in french "footballeur") name could have much more sense.
I don't see the reason Wenger wanted to use the word "soccer" for a knife sold in a market outside USA.
So yes, perhaps the best solution could be to use both words, like "Soccer/Footballer" or "Soccer /Footballeur".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 09, 2013, 10:12:57 PM
I like using the footballer name, and soccer can be a see reference and a note in the main description about Canada and Usa naming.

Separate pages; these are very different and taking about knives when more than on configure on a page is very confusing.  It's easy to link the pages and it can be done in more than 1 place if needed like right in the main description with some text. We can look at it again in the future when we have it more complete as it will no longer be expanding.

Can't use soccer series or footballer series as these are not official they have sports series Swiss rider series and other official ones. Can word the descption and just say a series of knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 09, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
I like using the footballer name, and soccer can be a see reference and a note in the main description about Canada and Usa naming.

Separate pages; these are very different and taking about knives when more than on configure on a page is very confusing.  It's easy to link the pages and it can be done in more than 1 place if needed like right in the main description with some text. We can look at it again in the future when we have it more complete as it will no longer be expanding.

Agreed. :cheers:

Can't use soccer series or footballer series as these are not official they have sports series Swiss rider series and other official ones. Can word the descption and just say a series of knives.

:think:

It says Footballeur série (Footballer series) right there on the page I posted from the 1992-1995 dealer information, page 31. :shrug:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 09, 2013, 11:09:45 PM
OK I read that differently.  I'll investigate more.

It's easier to have something concreate to refer to so I modified the 85mm alpha listing and renamed the Soccer page. 

UPDATE: Went with the English spelling

Take a Look (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Footballer+32), that's the general idea. 

UPDATE: Used a Series Heading although, not crazy about it for 3 basic knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 10, 2013, 12:36:58 PM
Francis, looks good.
--------
To help everyone understand the different Product Lines and each series for a single product line,
I'm sharing few pages that I use for myself.
In each page the name on top near the Wenger logo is the product line. The single names listed below with the numbers are the series.
These pages were part of the original 1995 catalog I posted a while back, but I came in possesion of them later.
They are basically the catalog index, and were supposed to be replaced by the dealers as soon as more products were added.
Sorry, but some of them have the names added by me.
Also since some pages are missing, some had been "created" by me for self reference.
I double checked all my edits and they seems correct.
However, if you find any error just let me know.
I'm in the process of re-uploading the whole catalog as the pages order is not correct, plus I found few more pages.
Also some series which came out later are missing, like the "Max" and probably others.
Images link
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Wenger_catalog_index?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIWj1YCY2_t4&feat=directlink

Preview of a page attached
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 10, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Looks good i think this does help show the big picture.  The manual entries can be edited out of the images and replaced with new type font ones maybe in a different color to show they are additions.

I think though an interactive page like this that links to the catalog pages would be nice.

I have a new NA 92-95 catalog i will try to scan and send you. Maybe you can help pin point the date better, but us releases don't always correspond with swiss releases, although with wenger they seem much closer than with vic.

If existing dates i have are accurate then it would be 92/93, but could be later.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 10, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
Looks good i think this does help show the big picture.  The manual entries can be edited out of the images and replaced with new type font ones maybe in a different color to show they are additions.

I think though an interactive page like this that links to the catalog pages would be nice.

I have a new NA 92-95 catalog i will try to scan and send you. Maybe you can help pin point the date better, but us releases don't always correspond with swiss releases, although with wenger they seem much closer than with vic.

If existing dates i have are accurate then it would be 92/93, but could be later.

Yes, sure would love to see your catalog.
I don't have the skills to edit the fonts of the index.
I have, however, a copy of the pages without my notes, should someone wanted to try.
Unfortunately, I can't do anything about the quality of the scans, as they were given to me in this condition.


I double checked all my edits and they seems correct.


Found an error, already.  :ahhh
Completely forgot about the catalog page I saw on EDCSource about the Tactile series.
So, the Product Line 1.5 "Fantaisie" should go on with:
1.5.6  unknown
1.5.7  unknown
1.5.8  Tactile
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 10, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
Added a SwissGrip catalog page  (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2970) to the wiki.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2969)
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2970)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on September 11, 2013, 08:39:27 AM
Nice! Thanks. Made me dig out my Swissgrip.
I never had the Bit adaptor - any chance anybody has a spare?!  ::)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 11, 2013, 09:44:39 AM
Added a SwissGrip catalog page  (http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2970) to the wiki.

Interesting, thanks!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on September 12, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
My black Wenger terrain belt came today! I'm allergic to nickel which is in most belt buckles but this buckle is stainless steel. I think it is a great belt and will wear it for years.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on September 16, 2013, 12:57:02 AM
New wood scales for an EVO 14 limited edition designed with more of the French side of Swiss Army knives. Cool Wenger Shield design inside of the "O". The small letters are Suisse inside of the bar at top of knife.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/wenger-wood-evo-14-jura-loriginal.html
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f44A9CUjRm0/UjNySI1ecuI/AAAAAAAAi8Q/hwcJcszIXH0/s800/Wenger%252520Jura%252520Traveler-03.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on September 16, 2013, 02:45:47 AM
Wenger certainly received some love from me today. I carried a Wenger mountaineer, had a Wenger wallet on me, wore a Wenger belt, and ordered a Wenger water bottle. I just can't pass up anything that says Wenger. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on September 16, 2013, 06:16:19 AM
Wenger certainly received some love from me today. I carried a Wenger mountaineer, had a Wenger wallet on me, wore a Wenger belt, and ordered a Wenger water bottle. I just can't pass up anything that says Wenger. :D

I bet you had the Giant hidden in there somewhere :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 16, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
New wood scales for an EVO 14 limited edition designed with more of the French side of Swiss Army knives. Cool Wenger Shield design inside of the "O". The small letters are Suisse inside of the bar at top of knife.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/wenger-wood-evo-14-jura-loriginal.html
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f44A9CUjRm0/UjNySI1ecuI/AAAAAAAAi8Q/hwcJcszIXH0/s800/Wenger%252520Jura%252520Traveler-03.JPG)

Nice!
I believe, however, that the shield designed inside the "O" is not the Wenger logo.
It is just the logo of "Jura l'original suisse", which basically promotes many brands from the Jura canton.
http://www.jura.ch/Carrousel/Jura-l-original-suisse.html
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 19, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
SM5000, I like that 14  :tu:

Carrying a Metal 50 and Evo 88 today  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on September 19, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Wenger's United Woods Serie flyer.... in german

http://swissknives.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/United-Woods.pdf
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: 396988 on September 19, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
United Woods Series looks amazing but £400 is out of my budget. Will they sell singles?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: microbe on September 22, 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Why is a Wenger Minathor 702 so expensive? Anyone owns one?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on September 22, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
I don´t know which version and or price you have in mind, but:

The Minathor is a collaboration of Wenger an Bergeon, one of teh best renowned Watch-Tool making companies in switzerland.

Their tools are not cheap and they packed a bunch of tehm into this Wenger - apart from that, there are some Wenger tools only used on taht knife, so they are produced in small numbers and add to the price.

The Minathor is quite a capable watchmaking tool.
I bought one as a present to myself, as I like to tinker with watches, too and it merges the 2 Hobbies nicely.

I guess there are more expensive Multis with less real funcionality.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on September 22, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Wenger's United Woods Serie flyer.... in german

http://swissknives.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/United-Woods.pdf
The last paragraph of the flyer is a touching epigraph for Wenger.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on September 22, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Why is a Wenger Minathor 702 so expensive? Anyone owns one?
The 700 series (Club Series) comes with octagonal scales of steel with leather inserts, leather pouch, & presentation box.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 24, 2013, 03:31:37 PM
I just spotted this on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-1-77-86-822-RangerGrip-Series-Knives-Swiss-Army-Folding-Knife-/281161619184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417689d6f0
The RangerGrip 86 is extremely difficult (I would say impossible) to find outside Russia
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on September 24, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
I just spotted this on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-1-77-86-822-RangerGrip-Series-Knives-Swiss-Army-Folding-Knife-/281161619184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417689d6f0
The RangerGrip 86 is extremely difficult (I would say impossible) to find outside Russia
That is sweet!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on September 26, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
I just got an evogrip s18
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/6uvy5esy.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/usa5ary7.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/yvadevyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/4edetegu.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/uty7yju7.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/duze3ehe.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/e5avepa8.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/27/7umyzady.jpg)


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on September 27, 2013, 05:25:08 AM
I just got an evogrip s18


I've been looking at that one for a while. I just read your comments about the locking mechanism in another thread. It's making me think twice about getting one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on September 27, 2013, 05:36:59 AM
Yeah, I see that the lock button does stick out even when the knife is closed.  I'm not sure I'd like it sticking out like that.  It seems like it could get caught on something or get in the way somehow :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: JAfromMn on September 27, 2013, 05:48:23 AM
I just traded off my red evo 18. I am going to try replace it with a evo s16 .

I like the lock.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on September 27, 2013, 12:03:19 PM

I just traded off my red evo 18. I am going to try replace it with a evo s16 .

I like the lock.
The lock is in the way a little bit but if you want the lock I think it is worth it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 28, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
Attention Wenger collectors!
I listed for sale on EDC Source all of my Wenger duplicates (around 15) plus few Victorinox.
All the Wenger's are discontinued, and some are very difficult to find.
You can see a gallery of all my duplicates here
https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Sell_duplicates?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJyg9I6g0JqoKA&feat=directlink
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 28, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
Attention Wenger collectors!
I listed for sale on EDC Source all of my Wenger duplicates (around 15) plus few Victorinox.
All the Wenger's are discontinued, and some are very difficult to find.
You can see a gallery of all my duplicates here
https://picasaweb.google....JqoKA&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/carlomoreschi/Sell_duplicates?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJyg9I6g0JqoKA&feat=directlink)

Some very nice SAKs for sale. :drool:  http://www.edcsource.com/101037,owner_id,other_items

This one isn't the smallest one with a magnifying glass (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-unknown-model-smallest-equipped-with-magnifying-glass,name,116589,auction_id,auction_details) if you're thinking the number of layers.
(http://www.edcsource.com/thumbnail.php?pic=uplimg/img_A_116589_1d474a9bbf29acc2beeca197d9bed00b.jpg&w=500&sq=Y&b=Y)

There's the still unidentified Junior model I need to add to the wiki.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=57889;image)
Picture by ColoSwiss.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 28, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.


(http://www.edcsource.com/thumbnail.php?pic=uplimg/img_A_116588_adbca038d5b1932067672e61c1a37046.jpg&w=500&sq=Y&b=Y)


Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 28, 2013, 06:46:07 PM
This one isn't the smallest one with a magnifying glass[/url] if you're thinking the number of layers.


Yes, you are correct.
Sometimes I just forget to include the Junior series... because of their blade they just don't seem to fit in the same category as other models.
The correct wording could be "This one is the smallest Wenger, with a real blade, equipped with a magnifying glass"... :D

I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.

Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
However the blade is the old style, marked only on one side.
Will check with the other example I have.
As for the name, I believe the Security 17 or Securité 17 name could had been added later, along with the S 17 designation.
I will check with the catalogs I have, but the name you are referring to could be for the newest versions, with the WENGER name embossed on the scale.
Not sure, however.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 28, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
...

I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.

Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
However the blade is the old style, marked only on one side.
Will check with the other example I have.
As for the name, I believe the Security 17 or Securité 17 name could had been added later, along with the S 17 designation.
I will check with the catalogs I have, but the name you are referring to could be for the newest versions, with the WENGER name embossed on the scale.
Not sure, however.

Mine's definitely an old one, '84 I think. The tang is stamped one side only with Wenger (crossbow)/Delémont/Switzerland/Stainless, and the nail file is facing inside. The reamer and corkscrew backsprings aren't flush, but the scissors and saw backsprings are. I got the name from an old SOSAK article.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on September 29, 2013, 02:51:48 AM
When I got my evogrip s18 I said the lock was really uncomfortable and in the way. I changed my mind now. I just had to adjust to holding the knife where my fingers do not touch the lock. I am still really glad I got the locking version.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on September 29, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
When I got my evogrip s18 I said the lock was really uncomfortable and in the way. I changed my mind now. I just had to adjust to holding the knife where my fingers do not touch the lock. I am still really glad I got the locking version.

That's cool John, I'm glad you are happy with it :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 30, 2013, 10:54:58 AM
...

I've been calling this one (http://www.edcsource.com/Wenger-model-11753-Forester-variation,name,116588,auction_id,auction_details) Securité 17 but maybe I'm wrong here on the naming. :shrug: It was what I found when searching for it a few years ago.

Mine doesn't have a locking bottle opener. Is it the same on yours?
The duplicate I have for sale does have the locking bottle opener.
However the blade is the old style, marked only on one side.
Will check with the other example I have.
As for the name, I believe the Security 17 or Securité 17 name could had been added later, along with the S 17 designation.
I will check with the catalogs I have, but the name you are referring to could be for the newest versions, with the WENGER name embossed on the scale.
Not sure, however.

Mine's definitely an old one, '84 I think. The tang is stamped one side only with Wenger (crossbow)/Delémont/Switzerland/Stainless, and the nail file is facing inside. The reamer and corkscrew backsprings aren't flush, but the scissors and saw backsprings are. I got the name from an old SOSAK article.

OK, I did some research, and the results are as follows:
The knife we are talking about has two different catalog numbers:
Older version has catalog 1 17 53 an no name (first attachment from the 1995 catalog).
Newer version has a different catalog number (1 17 59) and name Security 17 (second attachment from a 2006 catalog).
So considering that my model has the older key chain, I think that the name Security 17 could apply only to the newer version, and listing my duplicate on EDC Source as "Forester variation" was probably correct.
I will edit the wiki's "Forester" page, to reflect the newer name and catalog.
So thanks enki for pointing this out, as I didn't notice this difference before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 30, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
That would mean there are at least 3 variations of the locking Forester as mine is a pre 1984. As per info provided by North Man in the Wenger Time Windows and much text thread  (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37957.msg609810.html#msg609810)

Quote
1979 Packlock, worlds first SAK with locking blade

1980 Precise mention new model with Packlock and now 6 models available with this feature.

1981 Viceroy model and interlock system or locking is mentioned, may be older

1982 Earliest Patent application I have found on flat screwdriver with cap opener and the push locking system, inventor Theubet Michel, so 1984 may be correct.

So as the locking bottle opener was introduced around 1983-84 and mine doesn't have it, it must be an earlier model than the one in the 1995 catalog. North Man said in another thread that it would probably be 1984 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953.msg689857.html#msg689857). Not sure if it would have a different model number or what it is as I bought it used without box from Reinier a few years ago.

EDIT:
I just found the paypal info and he named it Wenger Security 17 in his auction.

Also, Wenger Security 17 is the name North Man uses for his Scouts model (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,18801.msg355594.html#msg355594) number 1 17 91 and also refers to the same SOSAK page I mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 30, 2013, 03:29:40 PM
That would mean there are at least 3 variations of the locking Forester as mine is a pre 1984. As per info provided by North Man in the Wenger Time Windows and much text thread  (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37957.msg609810.html#msg609810)

Quote
1979 Packlock, worlds first SAK with locking blade

1980 Precise mention new model with Packlock and now 6 models available with this feature.

1981 Viceroy model and interlock system or locking is mentioned, may be older

1982 Earliest Patent application I have found on flat screwdriver with cap opener and the push locking system, inventor Theubet Michel, so 1984 may be correct.

So as the locking bottle opener was introduced around 1983-84 and mine doesn't have it, it must be an earlier model than the one in the 1995 catalog. North Man said in another thread that it would probably be 1984 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,42953.msg689857.html#msg689857). Not sure if it would have a different model number or what it is as I bought it used without box from Reinier a few years ago.

EDIT:
I just found the paypal info and he named it Wenger Security 17 in his auction.

Also, Wenger Security 17 is the name North Man uses for his Scouts model (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,18801.msg355594.html#msg355594) number 1 17 91 and also refers to the same SOSAK page I mentioned earlier.

Enki:
I don't think that there was an additional third variation, but the tools just changed a little.
Thanks for the link you provided!
North Man, very correctly, does not call the scout example he has as Security 17, but probably says that the knife shown in that SOSAK article looks almost the same (i.e. same tools configuration, minus the scout emblem on the front scale and the blade etchings).
If you look at the italian brochure I posted a while back
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=70&sort_mode=name_asc&imageId=2900&scalesize=o
you can see that the model 1 17 53 was called "Sicurezza", which translates to "Security", but the same name was used for other models as well.
So my opinion is that Wenger later just used the word "Security" with part of the catalog number "17", as did with many other models.
In other words: "Security 17" is just the new name given by Wenger to an old model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 30, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
Not really a SAK, but just received this today with the very kind help by Reinier  :cheers:
It is a display advertisement in german, showing an old "Champ".
Probably from the 80's
Funny thing is that the knife shown is "embossed" on the panel. You can see this on the second picture attached.
The first picture has a 557 on the top to give an idea of the panel size.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on September 30, 2013, 03:49:48 PM
I'm glad it arrived safely!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on October 01, 2013, 03:46:12 AM
$10
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger004_zpsd70f7665.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger004_zpsd70f7665.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 01, 2013, 04:07:47 AM
:ahhh

I'll give you $30 for it. :D

This is kind of spooky actually. :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: detron on October 01, 2013, 04:23:28 AM
that is nice!  I like that!
I need to get a SAK with a bail,  not sure why, but I feel I need one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on October 01, 2013, 11:53:42 AM
I thought it was the same as this one, but the tools are different and one says delmont.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger001_zps279a60ff.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger001_zps279a60ff.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 01, 2013, 03:17:16 PM
Nice find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on October 02, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
Those 130 mm wengers rangers and others are very sturdy looking knives.  I want one
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: metsfan on October 02, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
I love my Wenger soldat, so far its the only sak that's withstood the test of time for me.  04 blade stamp and tip's been rounded through years of use, bail is missing...sucks they aren't available anymore.  Oh well, glad I have a duplicate in storage :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on October 04, 2013, 05:23:06 AM
Wenger Zino Platinum from ColoSwiss

Loving Wenger right now!¡!


Sent from Endor via an Ewok
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 04, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
Wenger Zino Platinum from ColoSwiss

Loving Wenger right now!¡!


Sent from Endor via an Ewok

Very nice!
Some months ago a seller on ebay was offering a bunch of them and I bought one too.
The metal scales are beautiful!
I think I also have a cigar Wenger with the "Zino" markings on the tools, but standard black scales.
Will try to post a picture.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on October 04, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Very nice!
Some months ago a seller on ebay was offering a bunch of them and I bought one too.
[/b]The metal scales are beautiful![/b]
I think I also have a cigar Wenger with the "Zino" markings on the tools, but standard black scales.
Will try to post a picture.

I don't think the scales are metal :think: At least not mine. Did you get THIS ONE (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=31&imageId=475)?

Also, I couldn't find mine in the SAK Wiki :think: Anyone know why?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 04, 2013, 09:33:52 AM


I don't think the scales are metal :think: At least not mine. Did you get THIS ONE (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=31&imageId=475)?

Also, I couldn't find mine in the SAK Wiki :think: Anyone know why?

Nope, I have the exact same model as yours.
I am at work now and will check later.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I remember the scales to be made in metal.
Will check later.
This model is not yet on the wiki.
Unfortunately I don't have much informations about it. Perhaps other members know more
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 04, 2013, 01:59:28 PM


I don't think the scales are metal :think: At least not mine. Did you get THIS ONE (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=31&imageId=475)?

Also, I couldn't find mine in the SAK Wiki :think: Anyone know why?

Nope, I have the exact same model as yours.
I am at work now and will check later.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I remember the scales to be made in metal.
Will check later.
This model is not yet on the wiki.
Unfortunately I don't have much informations about it. Perhaps other members know more

OK, just checked.
You were right and I was wrong, sorry.
Yes, unfortunately the scales of the silver model are made of plastic...to be sure I compared the weight of the two models I have (which have the same tool's configuration) and it is exactly the same.
I took the opportunity to save some pictures for the wiki.
The model with the black scales has a different logo on the main blade (it adds the words "Scepter Series") and is missing the Zino emblem on the back scale (however, this could be just worn off, as my model is used)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sticktodrum on October 04, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
I got the 7th Ann. MTO Wenger piece in yesterday. It's actually a really nice tool. I'll get some photos up of it over the weekend.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on October 05, 2013, 02:15:03 AM
I guess one shouldn't drink while editing a church video :think: :facepalm: :rofl:


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 11, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Could someone with some "internet skills" help me with a search?
Some months ago I bought the Rangerwood 161 (100 years edition) directly from the Swiss Alpine Club.
I'm quite sure I saw on the shop web page a note saying that it was a limited edition of 200 (if I remember correctly) pieces.
Unfortuantely I forgot to save a picture of the web page.
This knife seems out of stock now.
I think this was the direct link to the Rangerwood page
http://www.sac-cas.ch/fr/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D

Using Google cache I was able to find this page
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.sac-cas.ch/de/shop.html?
but I can't go further.
I'm quite sure the Ranger was listed on the "Club-Shop" menu on the left.
Could someone try to get the cache page of the Rangerwood, as I would need to have the production number confirmed?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on October 11, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
It seems as the website is currently not available...I can't access the website www.sac-cas.ch (http://www.sac-cas.ch) at all.  :rant:  Try later...  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on October 11, 2013, 04:57:43 PM
A Heidi Evo wood...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iOuAn3g38_4/UlgPmXTgqhI/AAAAAAAAIaM/okyGBXmFt-Q/s800/DSCN5177_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-thvQU6y2qg4/UlgRxqj1ZSI/AAAAAAAAIa0/utRnsEXzD7g/s800/DSCN5166_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 11, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
It seems as the website is currently not available...I can't access the website www.sac-cas.ch (http://www.sac-cas.ch) at all.  :rant:  Try later...  ;)

Ok, thanks Martin and congratulations for the Heidi Evowood!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 11, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
It's back up but the link to the 161 isn't working anymore. They do appear to have a wood scaled version of the Cyclist for 50 Francs.

http://www.sac-cas.ch/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D

Anyone seen this one before or is it a SAC exclusive?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 11, 2013, 11:39:42 PM
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: metsfan on October 12, 2013, 03:18:32 AM
(http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a455/metsfan521/20131008_110251_zps0f140745.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vemo on October 12, 2013, 10:03:58 AM
Weber's World have both SAC woods
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
however the Rangerwood does NOT have the engraving on the blade, for some reason that was only available from the SAC website.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 12, 2013, 02:40:09 PM
Weber's World have both SAC woods
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html
however the Rangerwood does NOT have the engraving on the blade, for some reason that was only available from the SAC website.

Yes, I have both models of the Rangerwood 161.
The "standard" one has, also, a different box without the 150th years logo.
The wood engraving is also on the front scale.
I uploaded a picture of it on the wiki some time ago.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2881)
Seems that the only limited run was for the 150th years anniversary model.
I remember 200 units from the SAC website, but I'm not 100% sure.
What I'm sure is that the production number of the limited series was actually written somewhere on the SAC website.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vemo on October 13, 2013, 07:44:30 AM
Yes I think you are correct, the 150 anniversary production run was for 200.
(I didn't notice the engraving was on the other side for the "standard" model - interesting)
Anyway I think the 150 Rangerwood 161 is a beautiful knife!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 13, 2013, 11:00:33 AM

It looks great :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 14, 2013, 06:12:32 PM
Went ahead and contacted directly the Schweizer Alpen-Club SAC.
They just confirmed me that there were 200 Rangerwood 161 knives made with the 150 years logo.
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?
I think I could then start working to add the two models.


It looks great :tu:
Thanks!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: detron on October 14, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
Went ahead and contacted directly the Schweizer Alpen-Club SAC.
They just confirmed me that there were 200 Rangerwood 161 knives made with the 150 years logo.
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?
I think I could then start working to add the two models.


It looks great :tu:
Thanks!


YAY   more data!!    :ahhh    :ahhh

always good to see people sharing knowledge
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 14, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?

I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161

BTW, I'm not an administrator on the wiki, just a regular user. Any user can create/edit wiki pages, but only an administrator can move or rename them. I usually start from the index page for that size, add the model and save the page. Then you get a ? mark next to the page name. If you click it, it will lead you to the blank page for that model and you can start making an entry. I usually copy the content of a similar SAK and edit out or add the necessary info.

Glad to see you back, North Man. :cheers: I was getting worried. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 14, 2013, 09:15:55 PM
Could a wiki administrator (enki???) please add a new page under the "Wenger 130mm" menu, in the "RangerWood Models" section, with the name "RangerWood 161"?

I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161

BTW, I'm not an administrator on the wiki, just a regular user. Any user can create/edit wiki pages, but only an administrator can move or rename them. I usually start from the index page for that size, add the model and save the page. Then you get a ? mark next to the page name. If you click it, it will lead you to the blank page for that model and you can start making an entry. I usually copy the content of a similar SAK and edit out or add the necessary info.


Thank you!
Yes, I do know the procedure from the question mark. I used it few times to create new pages.
I thought, however, that only administrators were allowed to edit the index.
Good to know!
Thanks again!  :cheers:
I will take pictures of the 150 years model and expand the page soon.



Glad to see you back, North Man. :cheers: I was getting worried. :D

Yes, I'm glad too.
Any new Wenger in your collection?  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 15, 2013, 06:05:01 PM

I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161


I uploaded some pictures and made small edits to the page.
Now it should be (hopefully) very easy to see all the differences between the RangerWood 161 and the RangerWood 161.P1.CAS
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 15, 2013, 08:30:02 PM

I created the requested page and linked it in the alphabetical and 2 layer index. I also added some basic info and the picture from below as placeholders so you can edit the page easier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161


I uploaded some pictures and made small edits to the page.
Now it should be (hopefully) very easy to see all the differences between the RangerWood 161 and the RangerWood 161.P1.CAS

Looks great. :salute: And very nice detail on the scale emblem. :tu:

BTW, if you'll be adding new pages yourself, make sure to add them to both the alphabetical and the layer index. The layer index is formatted a bit differently but I'm sure you'll figure it out easily. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 17, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Does anybody have an idea if the Wenger "Urban Survivor" was sold with this name anywhere else outside Canada?
The only reference I saw was in the catalog on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=72
where is mentioned here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1283&scalesize=0
and here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1290&scalesize=o
The "Urban Survivor" is actually the "Matterhorn" (same catalog number)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn
I think we could just leave the name on the wiki 85mm index and link it to the Matterhorn page.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 17, 2013, 06:10:08 PM
Seems that the only limited run was for the 150th years anniversary model.
I remember 200 units from the SAC website, but I'm not 100% sure.
What I'm sure is that the production number of the limited series was actually written somewhere on the SAC website.

Ahaha,
seems that the RangerWood 161 is back in stock
http://www.sac-cas.ch/fr/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D
This time I saved the webpage! :D
Interesting that the Ranger image shown has the SAC logo on the front scale.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 17, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
Does anybody have an idea if the Wenger "Urban Survivor" was sold with this name anywhere else outside Canada?
The only reference I saw was in the catalog on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=72
where is mentioned here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1283&scalesize=0
and here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1290&scalesize=o
The "Urban Survivor" is actually the "Matterhorn" (same catalog number)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn
I think we could just leave the name on the wiki 85mm index and link it to the Matterhorn page.

Nice find on the Urban Survivor catalog reference. :cheers: So it's actually just a canadian name for the Matterhorn. I actually PM-d Francis about it about a month ago as he created that page.

Quote
Urban Survivor ? Are you sure that exists? I can only find the record of it on smartknives, and he lists it with description and identifier of a Matterhorn, and lists a Matterhorn as the same but with pliers  and #16694 which I think is the identifier of a Business Tool Model 55 Black.

So it does exist. :D Just that the smartknives page is wrong about it.

I think we could just do as you suggest, leave the name but not link it to that empty page. Instead add a "see Matterhorn" and add it under Variations as a Canadian model name with a link to the catalog page.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 18, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Another with Backpacker icon (pad print type) This is a euro 1 13 23 and could be a 1990 knife. Toothpick and tweezer. In the French catalogue this is under Sports. I love the Wengers with icons on.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=62142;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 18, 2013, 03:56:05 PM
Another with Backpacker icon (pad print type) This is a euro 1 13 23 and could be a 1990 knife. Toothpick and tweezer. In the French catalogue this is under Sports. I love the Wengers with icons on.


Very nice!!!!
It is listed on the Wiki as Classic 132
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+132
... and I just realized that in 2006 this knife had the different name Classic 13
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 18, 2013, 06:27:19 PM

thanks  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 18, 2013, 07:27:32 PM
Humm, what a confusion!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
The name Classic 13 was later used for a different knife!
I'm attaching a scan of a 2008 european catalog.
You can see in the same page the classic 13 and classic 132 and that the catalog number 1.13.29 was used for the model 132.
For the moment I have added to the wiki index the old catalog number next to the Classic 13 name
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 18, 2013, 11:46:17 PM
Does anybody have an idea if the Wenger "Urban Survivor" was sold with this name anywhere else outside Canada?
The only reference I saw was in the catalog on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=72
where is mentioned here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1283&scalesize=0
and here
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=72&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=1290&scalesize=o
The "Urban Survivor" is actually the "Matterhorn" (same catalog number)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Matterhorn
I think we could just leave the name on the wiki 85mm index and link it to the Matterhorn page.

Nice find on the Urban Survivor catalog reference. :cheers: So it's actually just a canadian name for the Matterhorn. I actually PM-d Francis about it about a month ago as he created that page.

Quote
Urban Survivor ? Are you sure that exists? I can only find the record of it on smartknives, and he lists it with description and identifier of a Matterhorn, and lists a Matterhorn as the same but with pliers  and #16694 which I think is the identifier of a Business Tool Model 55 Black.

So it does exist. :D Just that the smartknives page is wrong about it.

I think we could just do as you suggest, leave the name but not link it to that empty page. Instead add a "see Matterhorn" and add it under Variations as a Canadian model name with a link to the catalog page.

Here's another Urban Survivor, basically a Spartan with aftermarket camouflage handles.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on October 19, 2013, 04:15:25 PM
Just a few pictures from my Wenger Woodies  ;)

EvoWood 35 and Rangerwood 161 SAC
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HnKOS_iSdGM/UmKSTXJ1CvI/AAAAAAAAIcY/cg2gwVoqC3U/s800/DSCN5245_r.jpg)

EvoWood18, EvoWood 10, EvoWood 35

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9I31ot0jiok/UmKS2kKfvtI/AAAAAAAAIco/JK_0VghVmNg/s800/DSCN5237_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 22, 2013, 09:29:32 AM
Beautiful set!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcs0001 on October 22, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
I recently located this knife.  I believe it is an older viking model.  It has the usual can opener, bottle opener, awl and corkscrew along with a locking main blade, clip point small blade and chain.  It's in very usable condition - the blades are perfect however some use marks.

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa327/jcs0001/viking1.jpg) (http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/jcs0001/media/viking1.jpg.html)

I'd never seen that kind of lock and the clip point was interesting.

John.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 22, 2013, 06:57:31 PM
I recently located this knife.  I believe it is an older viking model.  It has the usual can opener, bottle opener, awl and corkscrew along with a locking main blade, clip point small blade and chain.  It's in very usable condition - the blades are perfect however some use marks.


I'd never seen that kind of lock and the clip point was interesting.

John.

From your description this could be the model 1.10.65 (which had only the tweezers).
However I see the toothpic in your picture.
So your model could be a later version of the "Adirondack", according to the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Viking
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcs0001 on October 22, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
Thanks Basilio.  I forgot to mention it has tweezers and a toothpick.

John.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 24, 2013, 11:48:54 PM

So what's the difference between the Backpacker 12 and the Pathfinder?  :think: The Backpacker and Backpacker II were totally different. What happened to Backpacker 3 through to 11?  :P SAK names can be so confusing at times. Mine is identical with the same boot tread imprint, but on the smooth scales (except for the raised Wenger text)

Same knife, different names.
Looking at the catalogs, the last reference I found of the Backpacker/Pathfinder with plain scales is from 2008 (top knife in the following picture).
Fisrt reference of the model with the Evo scales is from a 2009 catalog (bottom knife in picture).
Note the small difference (the "3") in the catalog number

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6638/cbme.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/cbme.jpg/)

Found that this knife was also listed as Classic 12 in 2006  :ahhh :ahhh
So we basically have three different names and four major variations for the same knife:
1) Pathfinder (with backpacker image);
2) Classic 12 (standard scales, no image);
3) Backpacker 12 (standard scales, boot print image);
4) Backpacker 12 (Evo scales, boot print image).
Confusing, isn't it?  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on October 24, 2013, 11:55:02 PM
Anyone know why Evowood 16 is not available in Europe? It seems nuts that to get a knife made one country away I have to ship it at great expense from the other side of the Atlantic.
(I noticed none of the Philips head Evowoods are available here. As if us Europeans are so busy drinking wine we're incapable of screwing.)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on October 25, 2013, 12:00:49 AM
Anyone know why Evowood 16 is not available in Europe? It seems nuts that to get a knife made one country away I have to ship it at great expense from the other side of the Atlantic.
(I noticed none of the Philips head Evowoods are available here. As if us Europeans are so busy drinking wine we're incapable of screwing.)

Too much wine can have that effect.....  ::)  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on October 25, 2013, 01:08:39 PM
My last wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 25, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 25, 2013, 07:07:21 PM
Yes, nice knives!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on October 25, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
My last wenger

Very nice!

If I may comment, to me especially the SS coffin-style and the Snow camo ones. Too bad they have the nailfile instead of the secondary small blade ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: pfrsantos on October 25, 2013, 08:10:17 PM
Like the 1st one.

 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 29, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
Reading the forum, I came across this picture by derekmac that I missed before

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w472/derekmachfx/Knives/null_zps167a5ea3.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/derekmachfx/media/Knives/null_zps167a5ea3.jpg.html)

Wenger knife on top left.
Interesting the Wenger website logo on the front scale.
It is usually the same found on the back scale of the S557 Exclusivities model
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2844)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on October 29, 2013, 03:57:26 PM
Hmmm. I just did a Google image search and I didn't see any other ones like mine. I'll admit I don't know too much about Wenger, so hopefully someone here will be able to add some more info.


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on October 29, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
A few more pics of it:

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w472/derekmachfx/Knives/null_zps26f4cb04.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/derekmachfx/media/Knives/null_zps26f4cb04.jpg.html)

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w472/derekmachfx/Knives/null_zps5764e382.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/derekmachfx/media/Knives/null_zps5764e382.jpg.html)

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w472/derekmachfx/Knives/null_zpsb636a80e.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/derekmachfx/media/Knives/null_zpsb636a80e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on October 31, 2013, 01:24:10 PM
Anyone else have any info on this? I can't seem to find anything


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 31, 2013, 06:00:57 PM
Sorry, nothing comes to mind. I know I've seen it before but am not sure if it was the reverse side of the Exclusivities model basilio mentioned or somewhere else. I know Vlada got one of the Exclusivities so maybe it's that. :shrug: I'm sure though if it has been mentioned here on the forum, it's in this thread. ;) So who's gonna go through all the 1389 replies to find out? :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 31, 2013, 07:19:38 PM
I don't remember either..... for sure the company website logo on the front scale is not common.
Perhaps other members will know more.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on November 01, 2013, 01:20:07 AM
Hmmm, going through all the posts might give me something to do tomorrow at work. :think: :D

I can say that I wish I had of bought an EvoGrip sooner though. This is a really nice knife, so I might just have to start trying to get the other versions now!


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: burnside on November 01, 2013, 02:38:30 AM
My new and first Wengers as an adult (I'm 99% sure I had a wenger SI when I was a kid because I distinctly remember closing the knife on the bail more than one time).

One is hiding out in it's box while the other is just chilling with my new Spirit RT..

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3687/10581511623_660a8359d6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 04, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
This is something interesting I found.
A version of model 1.30.03 with the older style compass.
I had one from the 1990 time period, but with the standard "third generation compass", as I call it.
A later version of this knife is listed on the wiki as Classic 30
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+30
Since I had two similar models to compare, I realized something I didn't know.
Not only the old compass is different, but the whole plastic orienteering tool is much thinner.
You can see the difference in the pictures attached.
Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures, but the light was terrible.
I will take more for the wiki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 04, 2013, 06:33:10 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 04, 2013, 06:49:13 PM
This is something interesting I found.
A version of model 1.30.03 with the older style compass.
I had one from the 1990 time period, but with the standard "third generation compass", as I call it.
A later version of this knife is listed on the wiki as Classic 30
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+30
Since I had two similar models to compare, I realized something I didn't know.
Not only the old compass is different, but the whole plastic orienteering tool is much thinner.
You can see the difference in the pictures attached.
Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures, but the light was terrible.
I will take more for the wiki.

Interesting!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 05, 2013, 05:44:57 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?

Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 05, 2013, 06:15:55 PM

It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 05, 2013, 06:30:03 PM

It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.

Thanks North Man.
I'm sure the compass is genuine, as I saw it (only the compass) in a shop with other Wenger replacement parts and the shop owner remembered about these old models.
There is also a picture of the same knife (but with longer key chain) in the stressmaster5000 blog.
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2011/08/wenger-swiss-army-knife-european-north.html

Do you agree with me that the compass with the black background as shown in your images of the Pathfinder model here

was introduced at a later time? Does the timeframe match?
Edit: I'm attaching two close up pictures of the older compass, so it can be seen better
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Singh on November 05, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
I do appreciate Wenger’s focus on the great outdoors. Victorinox is focusing right now on fashion luggage and handbags.  :td:

I understand that Wenger and Vic are taking separate marketing approaches so as to appeal to a wider audience (and not step on each other’s toes), but hopefully we’ll see a more well-rounded approach as Vic takes in Wenger. And maybe we'll see a blending of their sak philosophies. We could get the best of both worlds.

To add to the Wenger love, Wenger had exactly what I needed for my kid’s first sak. 


(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/009_zpsb81fed26.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 05, 2013, 11:48:10 PM

It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.

Thanks North Man.
I'm sure the compass is genuine, as I saw it (only the compass) in a shop with other Wenger replacement parts and the shop owner remembered about these old models.
There is also a picture of the same knife (but with longer key chain) in the stressmaster5000 blog.
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2011/08/wenger-swiss-army-knife-european-north.html

Do you agree with me that the compass with the black background as shown in your images of the Pathfinder model here

was introduced at a later time? Does the timeframe match?
Edit: I'm attaching two close up pictures of the older compass, so it can be seen better

Sure it is a genuine Compass, and should be before the one on the Pathfinder :)  I can only say based on the general shape all together into a 5 year period. I did find a key date 1988 on some changes that is important before, but i can not say for sure.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 05, 2013, 11:53:29 PM
I do appreciate Wenger’s focus on the great outdoors. Victorinox is focusing right now on fashion luggage and handbags.  :td:

I understand that Wenger and Vic are taking separate marketing approaches so as to appeal to a wider audience (and not step on each other’s toes), but hopefully we’ll see a more well-rounded approach as Vic takes in Wenger. And maybe we'll see a blending of their sak philosophies. We could get the best of both worlds.

To add to the Wenger love, Wenger had exactly what I needed for my kid’s first sak. 


(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/009_zpsb81fed26.jpg)

Nice knife :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 06, 2013, 04:58:57 PM

I wonder if others here have done more research on the tang stamps from late 70s until early 90s?

Not much difference on the front tang stamp here, on the picture you see the crossbow, this is easy to find. I have looked over many knives.
 I put in a picture of some Swiss first day issue letters and stamps, just in random order.

Another question, to put the Swiss Army Knife and Swiss stamps, letters and symbolic Swiss motives into a setting. Must be many topics that could be made. Anyone?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 06, 2013, 10:13:29 PM
Nice pictures!
unfortunately I don't collect models from before the 80's and have only one or two from the 70's, I suppose.
Will check the markings on the blade tangs, but I think they are pretty much the same as posted above.
As for the pictures composition, I remember Francis using a lot of "swiss stuff" on the background of his images.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 06, 2013, 11:24:07 PM
Thanks!

There are some differences in the tang stamps if one use a magnifying glass. Most of them are just how deep the words look  and width of the lines if one can say. Just interesting to see, did not get any smarter by it :) Then there are the blade shape.

About the stamps and letters i will see later, i must collect more of them.
Many ideas in the head, it would be fun one day to use Wenger knives related to Mountains and Sport, then put in pictures of postcards of these mountains + sports. And also some letters With stamps and so on. The SAK and tourism and the list goes on :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 07, 2013, 06:20:34 AM

It does not look like it got the W stamping on the blade(backside) and it looks like the short can opener, if so i would believe it to be a early Compass, at first i did wonder if the Compass is genuine. But since it also got a totaly different orienting tool all together, it should be genuine. I can not remember having seen this before. Not 100% on time frame , if short can opener and no W it may be mid 80s.

Thanks North Man.
I'm sure the compass is genuine, as I saw it (only the compass) in a shop with other Wenger replacement parts and the shop owner remembered about these old models.
There is also a picture of the same knife (but with longer key chain) in the stressmaster5000 blog.
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2011/08/wenger-swiss-army-knife-european-north.html

Do you agree with me that the compass with the black background as shown in your images of the Pathfinder model here

was introduced at a later time? Does the timeframe match?
Edit: I'm attaching two close up pictures of the older compass, so it can be seen better

Sure it is a genuine Compass, and should be before the one on the Pathfinder :)  I can only say based on the general shape all together into a 5 year period. I did find a key date 1988 on some changes that is important before, but i can not say for sure.

I agree it is a genuine Compass and I have the same in a Matterhorn Plus.
In Popular Mechanics catalog of may 1986, a compass (orienteering tool) was mentioned for the first time, but I guess that it was the black plasic compass (see http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=201&u=12247557 at the end of 2nd column on the first page).
This aluminium compass was certainly the first version of Wenger compass (not precise, not solid, seems manufactured quickly) and I guess it dates from late 1985 (for Christmas) or early 1986 (for new year), that would explain a manufacturing emergency. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 07, 2013, 06:31:51 AM
Does any body know where I could buy scales for Wenger 130mm (Rangers) and 85mm (classic and Evo) ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 10:28:59 AM
Does any body know where I could buy scales for Wenger 130mm (Rangers) and 85mm (classic and Evo) ?

Here they sell a few for 85mm and Rangers (but only the older models)
http://www.swiss-knife.com/en/swiss-army-knives/handles-sides.html?p=2
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 01:57:17 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?

Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?

Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
Thanks!

There are some differences in the tang stamps if one use a magnifying glass. Most of them are just how deep the words look  and width of the lines if one can say. Just interesting to see, did not get any smarter by it :) Then there are the blade shape.

About the stamps and letters i will see later, i must collect more of them.
Many ideas in the head, it would be fun one day to use Wenger knives related to Mountains and Sport, then put in pictures of postcards of these mountains + sports. And also some letters With stamps and so on. The SAK and tourism and the list goes on :tu:

North Man,
here are the only two old models I have.
I took pictures of the tang markings, so you could try to compare.
I think this model is basically the 1.25.03
Too bad that the main blade was sharpened too much!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 02:10:41 PM
And this is basically model 1.23.03.
It is interesting because the keyring is attached directly to the liner.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on November 07, 2013, 03:11:44 PM
I don't remember either..... for sure the company website logo on the front scale is not common.
Perhaps other members will know more.
I've done more searching, and have come up with nothing.  To me, that makes my $3 Evogrip a little more special.

Oh, if anyone wants to buy it, I'll start the bidding at $1,000,000.  :D :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 07, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?

Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?

Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86228;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86230;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86232;image)


Very interesting !

I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2013, 04:51:54 PM

Could be around these dates yes :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Thanks!

There are some differences in the tang stamps if one use a magnifying glass. Most of them are just how deep the words look  and width of the lines if one can say. Just interesting to see, did not get any smarter by it :) Then there are the blade shape.

About the stamps and letters i will see later, i must collect more of them.
Many ideas in the head, it would be fun one day to use Wenger knives related to Mountains and Sport, then put in pictures of postcards of these mountains + sports. And also some letters With stamps and so on. The SAK and tourism and the list goes on :tu:

North Man,
here are the only two old models I have.
I took pictures of the tang markings, so you could try to compare.
I think this model is basically the 1.25.03
Too bad that the main blade was sharpened too much!!!!

It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 05:07:27 PM

Very interesting !

I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !


Could be around these dates yes :tu:

Thanks!
If we all agree about the sequence, how about calling the orienteering tool/compass First, Second, Third and Fourth generation?
It would make much easier instead of referring to the compass with the words "black background", "metal compass" etc...
What do you think?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 07, 2013, 05:09:16 PM

It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?

Will take a look this evening, as I'm not home at the moment.
Would I need to put off the scales, or could a picture from the inside of the knife be fine?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 07, 2013, 05:13:05 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?

Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?

Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)


Very interesting !

I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !


Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2013, 07:29:34 PM

It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?

Will take a look this evening, as I'm not home at the moment.
Would I need to put off the scales, or could a picture from the inside of the knife be fine?

No, do not take of the scales, just see inside the aluminium liner inside the body of the knife
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Interesting find, so a layer with the liner in the middle of it. :o Do you have a time frame for that model?

Yes, I think the layer with the middle liner is pretty standard...I have seen this configuration for all the orienteering tools, apart from the older ones with the "first generation" compass, like the one shown above.
As for the time frame, I don't know.
North Man?

Enki,
need to apologize, I was wrong!
The latest version of the orienteering tool does not have the middle liner!
I created a set of pictures to show the orienteering tool/compass evolution.
In every picture from left (older) to right (newer)


Very interesting !

I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !


Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)

Good work everyone! And big thanks to Basilio :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 08, 2013, 01:08:05 AM
Great piece of work on the compass!  :salute: all around.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 08, 2013, 03:51:45 AM
I love also old Wengers !

Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...

And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505".  I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.

Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)

Beautifull isn't it ?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 08, 2013, 02:04:38 PM
I love also old Wengers !

I don't collect Wenger's so old, but it is really nice!


It had to be a model with the magnifying glass :) The 64 can opener is in patents. Please how are the scales attached?

Will take a look this evening, as I'm not home at the moment.
Would I need to put off the scales, or could a picture from the inside of the knife be fine?

No, do not take of the scales, just see inside the aluminium liner inside the body of the knife

Hey North Man, attached are the pictures you requested.
The first two are from the model with the bail.
The other are from the model with the keyring attached to the scales.
Hope they are clear enough.



Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)

Sure, I'll do later
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2013, 04:40:46 PM

Excellent Pictures!
Yes the one with bail reminds or look very close to what i have seen from the late 60s and early 70s. Based on all functions and construction. Wenger did use more than one type of scale attaching in history.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2013, 04:43:38 PM
I love also old Wengers !

Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...

And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505".  I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.

Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)

Beautifull isn't it ?
Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 08, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
I love also old Wengers !

Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...

And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505".  I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.

Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)

Beautifull isn't it ?
Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:

Next time I will show you a Wenger Tahara 1920's with cross shield (red and yellow-white) on scales and the 3 faces stamp on blade when its restoration will be finished !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 08, 2013, 05:17:18 PM


Very interesting !

I think :
- The 1st is late 1985 or early 1986
- The 2nd is 1896
- The 3rd, is between 1987 and 1991
- The 4th, is since 1992
This is based on various observations and cross made from catalogs, advertisements, books, personal supositions and knives of my collection. But of course it lacks precision and formal proofs !


Good pictures. Would be best to update the Orienteering Tool page with them. :salute: I'll let you have the honors. :D

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...hp?page=Orienteering+Tool (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Orienteering+Tool)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...galleryId=66&offset=0 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=66&offset=0)

Edited a little the wiki page.
What do you think?
I had a look at the 1992-1995 European catalog, and there are pages printed in 1993 that show the "third generation" compass.
So I included the 1993 year for the "third generation".
If someone wanted to edit more the wiki page (and perhaps my english) that would be great

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
Well done Basilio, i know it is much work to Research. It is an ok date for now, it could be 1991, this is the most close i can get to the 3rd type. Then the 4th that one can swirl is later in the 90s maybe 1996-1998 and up. This have the middle liner. Then the last is almost the same only with no middle liner. I must also mention to be aware of Wenger variations, since they are famous for this.
The first is 1985 and up, the second type is close, maybe 1986-87. Then again it could be different.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 08, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
Well done Basilio, i know it is much work to Research. It is an ok date for now, it could be 1991, this is the most close i can get to the 3rd type. Then the 4th that one can swirl is later in the 90s maybe 1996-1998 and up. This have the middle liner. Then the last is almost the same only with no middle liner. I must also mention to be aware of Wenger variations, since they are famous for this.
The first is 1985 and up, the second type is close, maybe 1986-87. Then again it could be different.

As you say Wenger is famous for lot of variations ! And we can find lot of small differents details even on same knives of same year.

A friend just show me a 4th generation compas on a 3rd generation ruler... It's strange, but no body can say the compas was changed by the owner or it was manufactured like that, in that case we can guess this knife was manufactured just at the begining of the 4th generation and Wenger wanted to exhaust old stock ok rulers... 
See this picture from "The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces 2002" :
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/12/24/75/57/the_il10.jpg)
Is it a new generation ?

I see we are OK for the 1st and the 2nd generation dates.
For the 3rd generation, I made a mistake : it was 1992 as you can see on Wenger catalog 1992/1995 for Europ.
So, the 4th generation is probably late 1990's (after 1995).


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2013, 08:40:40 PM
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 08, 2013, 08:58:15 PM
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.

I think the more important is to define "big generations" (4 or 5) with years and to know it can exists variations and interim model between 2 generations...
Be carfull with the Giant knife, this knife is just there to show all wenger tools, not variations and it is manufactured manually, lot of tools are adjusted to work !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 08, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
[See this picture from "The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces 2002" :
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/12/24/75/57/the_il10.jpg)
Is it a new generation ?

I see we are OK for the 1st and the 2nd generation dates.
For the 3rd generation, I made a mistake : it was 1992 as you can see on Wenger catalog 1992/1995 for Europ.
So, the 4th generation is probably late 1990's (after 1995).

WOW!
Thank you so much for the picture!

I think we can consider the wiki page just an interim solution untill we found more informations.
I'll update it if we'll discover more.
On thing interesting to notice is that all the pictures from the 1992-1995 europ. catalog are showing the compass with the front side facing the reader (i.e. the same side of the wenger shield on the scale).
I think this was probably done only to show the compass.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 09, 2013, 09:47:45 AM
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.

I think the more important is to define "big generations" (4 or 5) with years and to know it can exists variations and interim model between 2 generations...
Be carfull with the Giant knife, this knife is just there to show all wenger tools, not variations and it is manufactured manually, lot of tools are adjusted to work !

Yes i know, thats why i double checked and searched. Always :tu: Absolutely we must use the main types into a 4 or 5 model types. I put in a Picture on the 1 31 03 i have showed before. Atleast this should be from the late 90s or maybe. This type Compass i have seen around. With the middle liner. I did search to try and find a fully date for when this was introduced, swirl and so on. I looked on knives and all material i could find. again good work by you and everyone!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 09, 2013, 10:12:44 AM
Here is the same Compass, With the Arrow. This one is also rather accurate.

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=86812;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 09, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
Here is a picture with a good Compass to the left (swirl to North). Not easy to see ho accurate from a picture, i have also tested this Wenger against a military type Compass. This Wenger on my knife is very good and can be used. Atleast to get a direction. Then i have the Wenger type two. Have seen this broken on atleast two knives. This then may have a fault. It will jump out of place.

PS the Picture is just to show them, if to be used one must not have them near each other + the key ring/chain is magnetic and so on. You know :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 09, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
Good info, i can see on the new knives and the Giant knife that the last Compass is without the middle liner. So the one on this Super-Talent is probably not the fully New or last. I believe we should be ok with Basilio`s Picture and info since it would be even more variations and types. There are probably variations and interim models.

I think the more important is to define "big generations" (4 or 5) with years and to know it can exists variations and interim model between 2 generations...
Be carfull with the Giant knife, this knife is just there to show all wenger tools, not variations and it is manufactured manually, lot of tools are adjusted to work !

Yes i know, thats why i double checked and searched. Always :tu: Absolutely we must use the main types into a 4 or 5 model types. I put in a Picture on the 1 31 03 i have showed before. Atleast this should be from the late 90s or maybe. This type Compass i have seen around. With the middle liner. I did search to try and find a fully date for when this was introduced, swirl and so on. I looked on knives and all material i could find. again good work by you and everyone!

Last night, after many and many searches, I found 6 generations of orienting tools...

- 1° generation : End 1985 or begining of 1986
- 2° generation : 1986
- 3° generation : 1991 (in Wenger catalog 1991 and in next catalog 1992/1995)
- 4° generation : after 1995 (1996 ? 1997 ? 1998? or more ?)
- 5° generation : around 2002 (in Wenger catalog 2002/2003 and in "The Illustrated Directory of Special Forces 2002")
- 6° generation : around 2007 (exists on the first 2007 Giant knife and on a 2007 Evo S54 of a friend... But in Wenger catalog 2007 and next catalogs I'm pretty sure there show old photos of the compas...)


For 1° generation to 4° generation, refere to previous photos...

For 5° generation: the ruler use 2 layers and it's separated by liner
(http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/12/24/75/57/the_il10.jpg)


For 6° generation: the ruler is hollow, it use 3 layers, it's not separated by liner and the compass is a bit different.
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/compas10.jpg)
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/compas11.jpg)
(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/compas12.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 09, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 09, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?

No probem tu use photos, but please add "http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com" on each photos (respect for the author).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 09, 2013, 03:37:06 PM
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?

No probem tu use photos, but please add "http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com" on each photos (respect for the author).

:tu:

Quite a lot of progress on dating the development of this tool in a short time. Great work Basilio, jcfiguet and North Man. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 09, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
Good find!
Didn't have any idea about an hollow ruler!
Since it appears that North Man has a 5th generation and jcfiguet the 6th, would you mind if I use your pictures for the wiki?
I'll give full credits, of course
---
North Man what do you mean when you talk about an "Arrow" in the compass?

No probem tu use photos, but please add "http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com" on each photos (respect for the author).

:tu:

Quite a lot of progress on dating the development of this tool in a short time. Great work Basilio, jcfiguet and North Man. :hatsoff:

Thanks for the compliment, but there is still so much work to restore a Wenger 'time-line' as the well known Victorinox 'time-line' !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 09, 2013, 05:22:17 PM

Well done! I believe we need to focus on these for now. Wenger did not make it easy for us collectors, but i do love their producs.
 I remember we discussed the start of the more modern Swiss Army Knife from the early 70s, since then they have produced more novelties and special range, sportsman knives and gadget knives than anyone. They did some amazing moves from the early 70s, from the 80s and until the merging today.
This is why it is very fun to collect them, one will always get a product not only for use but also a for a variation collector. They are almost like a postage stamp, one never know when a treasure appears!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 09, 2013, 05:25:30 PM

Well done! I believe we need to focus on these for now. Wenger did not make it easy for us collectors, but i do love their producs.
 I remember we discussed the start of the more modern Swiss Army Knife from the early 70s, since then they have produced more novelties and special range, sportsman knives and gadget knives than anyone. They did some amazing moves from the early 70s, from the 80s and until the merging today.
This is why it is very fun to collect them, one will always get a product not only for use but also a for a variation collector. They are almost like a postage stamp, one never know when a treasure appears!

Ho yes, I agree !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 09, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Can someone here help me with the shortix? What is the back layer tool on it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 09, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
Here is a picture with a good Compass to the left (swirl to North). Not easy to see ho accurate from a picture, i have also tested this Wenger against a military type Compass. This Wenger on my knife is very good and can be used. Atleast to get a direction. Then i have the Wenger type two. Have seen this broken on atleast two knives. This then may have a fault. It will jump out of place.

PS the Picture is just to show them, if to be used one must not have them near each other + the key ring/chain is magnetic and so on. You know :)

Yes, you can use the Wenger compas, but it's very difficult because it's too small to be very accurate.

The Recta (Swiss made) is one of the best night and day compas I never use as boy scout or backpaker...

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Recta/Recta 1.jpg)

Rotating capsule with dial (as you wish: degrees, ranks or thousandth of circle) and you can adjust Declination with the little screwdriver
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Recta/Recta 2.jpg)

Removable mirror for sighting and side scale
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Recta/Recta 3.jpg)

Sighting with the mirror
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Recta/Recta 4.jpg)

Sighting without the mirror (closed)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Recta/Recta 5.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 09, 2013, 10:25:38 PM

Interesting :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on November 10, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Finally  :mail: 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nBTgaxhcYQk/Un6GkYj0xAI/AAAAAAAAIts/kRFF7LeUV2A/s800/2_DSCN5817_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xUtgSu6CXKk/Un6GwC3s_aI/AAAAAAAAIt8/Dx4wZ_mJ0yg/s800/15%2520UnitedWoods%2520Box.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F5Eta66JE5E/Un6HKSN117I/AAAAAAAAIxE/ksWMJd3KOG8/s800/7%2520UW%2520Oceania.jpg)

For more pictures and info, see my blog (http://swissknives.info/wenger-united-woods/)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on November 11, 2013, 12:27:34 AM
Wow those are nice!!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Monrogue on November 11, 2013, 02:59:46 AM
Nice set Victor:)

Sent from my XT901 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on November 11, 2013, 03:17:22 AM
Cool! I get it now, there is no South American knife because the maple knife counts for both North and South America.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on November 11, 2013, 04:19:38 AM
Yeah, that wood set :drool: I'm guessing the placement on the map designates where the wood came from :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 11, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
Nice set, Martin!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 11, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
Finally  :mail: 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nBTgaxhcYQk/Un6GkYj0xAI/AAAAAAAAIts/kRFF7LeUV2A/s800/2_DSCN5817_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xUtgSu6CXKk/Un6GwC3s_aI/AAAAAAAAIt8/Dx4wZ_mJ0yg/s800/15%2520UnitedWoods%2520Box.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F5Eta66JE5E/Un6HKSN117I/AAAAAAAAIxE/ksWMJd3KOG8/s800/7%2520UW%2520Oceania.jpg)

For more pictures and info, see my blog (http://swissknives.info/wenger-united-woods/)

Congratulations! Wow
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on November 11, 2013, 02:19:03 PM
Ok, it's time to respond with something.
Wenger Bernina. It was a crazy quest to find it. Bought last one, luckily it sat forgotten behind show window in russian accesories store for over a year.

I was just looking at that model yesterday in an old thread. :D Very nice find. :tu:

Yeah, and it's also a great gift for a woman that likes to sew  ;) My second half was unbelievebly happy when I brought this baby to her. I was surprised myself by number of unique implements inside of it. Never thought it would be so hard to find it. They are discontinued long time ago, although sakwiki keeps silence about this.
I just stumbled over this

Its listed as "in stock" on couteau-suisse.biz (http://www.couteau-suisse.biz/fantasy/147-bernina-504.html), the also have the Swiss Business Tool 60 listed as "in stock".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK on November 11, 2013, 03:39:21 PM
I think I expressed my feeling about differences between Wenger and Vic here few years ago, but I don't remember well. I'm not an expert about steel quality, from a practical point of view, I always prefered Wenger for some reasons. First of all, the ancient soldier knife is simply superior to the Vic because of the large ring, much more solid. Then, the scissors are superior in my opinion because of the almost unbreakable spring but the autosharp blades can be of a disadvantage is you want to quickly cut a piece of paper, for example.
Generally, Wenger was always more innovative and adventurous (does this word exist ?) and Vic more conservative. For example, even knives with unusual shape, ergonomic evo series, cobranding even with porsche, and so on. Vic also have unusual knives like cigar one, but it's not exactly the same spirit.
If somebody knows if there's any difference in steel quality between Vic and Wenger, I would be interested to know.

Yeah, that wood set :drool: I'm guessing the placement on the map designates where the wood came from :think:
Yes, I think so. Not sure about the asian one, but the others, yes.

In the official document, they say it's a tribute to the worldwide support.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 12, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
Here is the Picture of the attachings Basilio  :tu:

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=87310;image)

Ps this is the second type , Next Picture you wanted is coming in a few seconds :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 12, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
Here is the one you requested Basilio, i found it best to show both i had.

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=87312;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 12, 2013, 10:56:57 AM
Many thanks North Man!
I sent you a PM because I need to know from which of the knives you showed here
http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/1425/
your last pictures came from.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 12, 2013, 11:35:16 AM
Hi

The last picture is on the 1 31 03, please see pictures. It is probarbly late 90s and probably a 5th generation.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 12, 2013, 11:53:31 AM
Hi
PM sent, sorry for misunderstanding, hope it explains :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 12, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Humm,
I'm having few problems crating images for all the compass variations.
I think we have basically four options:
a) create a total of three pictures for the wiki (front, back, scale attachment), each one showing the six variations.
Unfortuantely since the pictures were taken by different people, with different sizes etc., they best I could do is the preview image attached...not the best solution, to be honest;
b) we could have in the wiki page a total of 9 pictures: 3 for the first 4 generations (my pictures), 3 for the 5th generation (North Man) and 3 for the 6th generation (jcfiguet )...perhaps too many pictures for a single wiki page;
c) we could agree on a same size, background, camera angle and try to achieve a better result on option a) keeping the total to 3 pictures, each one showing the 6 different compasses;
d) remove all the pictures from the wiki page, edit the variations and just link the images to the gallery
 :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 12, 2013, 01:58:54 PM
Humm,
I'm having few problems crating images for all the compass variations.
I think we have basically four options:
a) create a total of three pictures for the wiki (front, back, scale attachment), each one showing the six variations.
Unfortuantely since the pictures were taken by different people, with different sizes etc., they best I could do is the preview image attached...not the best solution, to be honest;
b) we could have in the wiki page a total of 9 pictures: 3 for the first 4 generations (my pictures), 3 for the 5th generation (North Man) and 3 for the 6th generation (jcfiguet )...perhaps too many pictures for a single wiki page;
c) we could agree on a same size, background, camera angle and try to achieve a better result on option a) keeping the total to 3 pictures, each one showing the 6 different compasses;
d) remove all the pictures from the wiki page, edit the variations and just link the images to the gallery
 :think:

A new picture of the 6 generation :

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/compas10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 12, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
WOW!!!!
Jean-Claude thank you so much!!!!!!
Will upload the picture (credits will be given in the image description) and edit the wiki page.
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 12, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
WOW!!!!
Jean-Claude thank you so much!!!!!!
Will upload the picture (credits will be given in the image description) and edit the wiki page.
Thanks again!

You're Welcome !!!

We have the same problem of dates with the metal logo, upon last investigations we found 3 periods but dates are not accurate...


(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Logo_Wenger/Logo3.jpg)

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Logo_Wenger/Logos1.jpg)



And since 2004 it's the logo is injected into the scale...

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Logo_Wenger/Logo2.jpg)


For olders logo before 1960's it's not accurate at all !


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 12, 2013, 06:37:31 PM
That's interesting!
I whish they were still making the logo in metal, and not in plastic.
The printed one is the worst looking, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 12, 2013, 08:33:16 PM
That's interesting!
I whish they were still making the logo in metal, and not in plastic.
The printed one is the worst looking, in my opinion.

On my photo (2004 and after) it's not a printed one but an injection process, I'm sorry but the photo is bad.

Printed logos are ugly, we have the same opinion, generaly this process was reserved for economy series (like Victorinox) and it exists on all periods between 1950 and today.

2004 is accurate for plastic logos with injection process because of a dated patent, but I'm not sure about accuracy of other dates...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 13, 2013, 10:27:11 AM
Is any body knows these knives

Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/K4sAAOxyXDhSfriO/$_12.JPG)


Monarch with lock blade ?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/o0wAAOxyRNJSgVN5/$_12.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YTwAAMXQUmFSgl0G/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 13, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
Hi

I am glad about this work by all of you!
I got some input on the emblems, on the Picture you can see emblem types on knives during the 80s
and up. There is a difference on Budget or "economy" models, like you mention that Victorinox also got. On a Budget type in the 80s i found the type With hot stamp and silver Paint or also the silvery marking tape that Wenger did use on the icons in the scales. Then they did pad print on both emblem. The models With icons in the scales are not Budget models, still just interesting what is used in the emblem on the Budget.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 13, 2013, 02:00:31 PM


Not sure i have showed this before, from the left is the hot stamped emblem with silver color. This like i did mention could have been used even before 1980, perhaps you could tell me?. Anyhow one can find the hot stamped during the 90s also. Wenger did mention they went over to pad printing in the 80s, most likely late 80s. We have the same here with the variations and interim knives. During around 1988 Wenger went over to the longer can opener, and also from this date we see the W on the backside of the tang.

With advertising knives it depends on the buyer, what he wants, normal or Budget, i have found variations.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 13, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
Is any body knows these knives

Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?

Monarch with lock blade ?

Humm, I don't have a name for the first one.
The closest are the Master (1.52.53), but it adds the wood saw and the main blade is locking, or the Tradesman (1.51.13), but it replaces the nail file with a small blade and the corkscrew with phillips.
As for the locking Monarch (which is basically a "Lancelot" with cellidor scales), I see a lot of them for sale, but don't have an idea of the model name or catalog number.
I have one coming from the USA with the help of a forum member which adds a strange image imprinted that I never saw before.
Will post picture when I'll get it.
-------
Good job with the emblems!
Edit: what a coincidence!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Tradesman-Swiss-Army-Knife-/370941428153?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item565dd501b9
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 13, 2013, 03:59:48 PM
Is any body knows these knives

Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/K4sAAOxyXDhSfriO/$_12.JPG)


Monarch with lock blade ?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/o0wAAOxyRNJSgVN5/$_12.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YTwAAMXQUmFSgl0G/$_12.JPG)

Interesting knife - it seems to have the same Tools like the Lancelot? http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Lancelot It seems to have the short can opener, is the W or 3 knife logo on the back(tang) It looks at first for me as a 1980-1986 type of knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 13, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
Is any body knows these knives

Forester with pliers instead of wood saw?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/K4sAAOxyXDhSfriO/$_12.JPG)


Monarch with lock blade ?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/o0wAAOxyRNJSgVN5/$_12.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/YTwAAMXQUmFSgl0G/$_12.JPG)
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.

It is a Company philosophy on products that they used and use. You probably know this, a part we collectors like. Thank you for posting it! It may happen that one will find a private mod, but this is for me another confirmation on Wenger philosophy. We need to find a name :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 13, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
OK, I just realized that all the above pictures are from current ebay auctions  :P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Unknown-rare-model-Swiss-Army-Knife-similar-Forester-w-pliers-no-saw-/200985727350
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Swiss-Army-knife-Monarch-model-red-7-layer-/301014560393
As for the locking Monarch (or cellidor Lancelot, if you prefer) there is an additional one I saw (USA only)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-3-Swiss-Knives-Victorinox-and-Wenger-/131042036379
Since there was the box, I already asked the seller about a model name or number written on it, but he just answered me saying that there is no name/number written (brobably because the box is missing the top cover)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 13, 2013, 06:29:30 PM
OK, I just realized that all the above pictures are from current ebay auctions  :P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Unknown-rare-model-Swiss-Army-Knife-similar-Forester-w-pliers-no-saw-/200985727350
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-Swiss-Army-knife-Monarch-model-red-7-layer-/301014560393
As for the locking Monarch (or cellidor Lancelot, if you prefer) there is an additional one I saw (USA only)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-3-Swiss-Knives-Victorinox-and-Wenger-/131042036379
Since there was the box, I already asked the seller about a model name or number written on it, but he just answered me saying that there is no name/number written (brobably because the box is missing the top cover)



About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.

It is a Company philosophy on products that they used and use. You probably know this, a part we collectors like. Thank you for posting it! It may happen that one will find a private mod, but this is for me another confirmation on Wenger philosophy. We need to find a name :tu:

Thanks basilio and North Man !

Yes these photos are from current ebay auctions, I sent messages to sellers but they have no more information about name or number...

Yes it's the "Wenger philosophy" and we need to find name for these knives and to add them on http://www.sakwiki.com !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 13, 2013, 06:54:56 PM
Found it! 8)
The first knife is a Classic 50
First reference is from a 2006 european catalog (first attachment)
catalog 1.50.09
Second reference is from a 2008 european catalog (second picture)
catalog 1.050.009.000
Probably discontinued in 2008, as I saw no reference on the 2009 european catalog
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.
I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 13, 2013, 07:29:46 PM

Excellent work!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 13, 2013, 07:56:48 PM


Not sure i have showed this before, from the left is the hot stamped emblem with silver color. This like i did mention could have been used even before 1980, perhaps you could tell me?. Anyhow one can find the hot stamped during the 90s also. Wenger did mention they went over to pad printing in the 80s, most likely late 80s. We have the same here with the variations and interim knives. During around 1988 Wenger went over to the longer can opener, and also from this date we see the W on the backside of the tang.

With advertising knives it depends on the buyer, what he wants, normal or Budget, i have found variations.

I have no information about Wenger knives with hot stamped emblem nor serigraphy emblem, because I don't collect them. I only collect knives with hot stamped icons in the scales (like Backpaker) or inlayd icons or advertising (like LL Bean or Eddie Bauer), but always with aluminium emblem, plastic emblem, or more olders emblem (maillechort, celluloïd, etc) on olders scales.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 13, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
Found it! 8)
The first knife is a Classic 50
First reference is from a 2006 european catalog (first attachment)
catalog 1.50.09
Second reference is from a 2008 european catalog (second picture)
catalog 1.050.009.000
Probably discontinued in 2008, as I saw no reference on the 2009 european catalog
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.
I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51

Wonderfull ! Thanks a lot !
This model is not referenced yet on http://www.sakwiki.com...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 13, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
Found it! 8)
The first knife is a Classic 50
First reference is from a 2006 european catalog (first attachment)
catalog 1.50.09
Second reference is from a 2008 european catalog (second picture)
catalog 1.050.009.000
Probably discontinued in 2008, as I saw no reference on the 2009 european catalog
About the first knife - not sure on the number or any name, anyhow it is the typical Wenger variation on the corkscrew/ phillips and the small blade/nailfile on the knives made and the combination of them. Some may be special orders, but i believe it is a Wenger mechanism on variations.
I thought the same and it is actually very correct, as the Tradesman (small blade+phillips) was later called Classic 51

Wonderfull ! Thanks a lot !
This model is not referenced yet on http://www.sakwiki.com...

There are a few SAKs that are missing there but we are trying to fill in the gaps as we kind info on the missing ones. :salute: A number of pages were created based on the information gathered in this thread. I am working together with a few members who send me info to be added to the wiki and if you see something that's missing, post it here and we will add it. With help of Coloswiss I've added the whole line of Wenger Juniors this summer and a few other SAKs and basilio also helps a lot in updating the wiki with information posted here so you can forward it to him too. I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.

P.S.

We've been discussing a project of turning the SAKwiki into a multilingual wiki, with translations of the pages into other languages to make it easier for people that are not so versed in English. Maybe French, Italian, German, Spanish for starters, but other languages could be added later. That would be a very big project though as the wiki is several hundred pages big, so best we start it after the wiki images have been collected. Of course if we find enough people interested in the project. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 13, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
...
P.S.

We've been discussing a project of turning the SAKwiki into a multilingual wiki, with translations of the pages into other languages to make it easier for people that are not so versed in English. Maybe French, Italian, German, Spanish for starters, but other languages could be added later. That would be a very big project though as the wiki is several hundred pages big, so best we start it after the wiki images have been collected. Of course if we find enough people interested in the project. Any thoughts?

It will be great, but for french people we have no problem of translation with "google translation".
So I think it  would be a big job for little use. I can't speak for other languages.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bmot on November 13, 2013, 11:15:19 PM

...
P.S.

We've been discussing a project of turning the SAKwiki into a multilingual wiki, with translations of the pages into other languages to make it easier for people that are not so versed in English. Maybe French, Italian, German, Spanish for starters, but other languages could be added later. That would be a very big project though as the wiki is several hundred pages big, so best we start it after the wiki images have been collected. Of course if we find enough people interested in the project. Any thoughts?

I wouldn't mind helping translating to Dutch, though I can't promise quickness  :whistle:

Not sure if it would be -that- useful for Dutch, though, as a -lot- of people here speak English, too...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 14, 2013, 12:55:33 PM
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.


Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it!  :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 16, 2013, 12:31:18 PM
received today, Scout S18. It is beautiful!

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=87901;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 16, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
Phillips

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 16, 2013, 11:45:54 PM
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.


Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it!  :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures

Carlo,

If you would like a personal rather than catalog photo of the Classic 50 for the wiki, let me know. I'll see if I can find my copy.

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 17, 2013, 10:30:50 AM
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.


Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it!  :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures

Carlo,

If you would like a personal rather than catalog photo of the Classic 50 for the wiki, let me know. I'll see if I can find my copy.

Karl

Karl,
yes that would be great!
I'm almost done with the classic series, but please take a look and let me know if you find any errors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 18, 2013, 09:26:43 AM
I think it would be better if Carlo created this page as he did all the information gathering but I'll help out if needed.


Sure, I was already planning to do so.
Will do that later.
P.S. Yesterday evening, looking in my collection, I realized I already have the locking Monarch.
Completely forgot about it!  :facepalm:
Will post few pictures.
Edit: added pictures

Carlo,

If you would like a personal rather than catalog photo of the Classic 50 for the wiki, let me know. I'll see if I can find my copy.

Karl

Karl,
yes that would be great!
I'm almost done with the classic series, but please take a look and let me know if you find any errors.

Carlo,

Started going through my notes page by page, and there's an overwhelming amount of info to be added.

To start with:

Classic 66 has a version, Basic 66 without toothpick & tweezers., no. 1.66.41

Also didn't see a listing for the toilet paper knife, a five-blade Wenger with a special key for opening toilet paper dispensers. 400-500 done for a European company called Hygolet.  :D (Don't have one)

Karl

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 18, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Carlo,

Started going through my notes page by page, and there's an overwhelming amount of info to be added.

To start with:

Classic 66 has a version, Basic 66 without toothpick & tweezers., no. 1.66.41

Also didn't see a listing for the toilet paper knife, a five-blade Wenger with a special key for opening toilet paper dispensers. 400-500 done for a European company called Hygolet.  :D (Don't have one)

Karl

Hi Karl,
thanks for the informations.
I'm now focusing on the Classic series, and still need to check/edit from the Classic 62 to Classic 141.
My next step would be to improve the "Basic series" section (and I agree that there are few models missing, like the Basic 66), then to create the "Security/Sécurité" one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 19, 2013, 03:29:55 AM
Carlo,

Here's a shot of the Wenger Classic 50.

I was thinking of taking my Wenger 85mm notebook, which is ordered by blade number, and starting on the first page. However if that's likely to prove confusing to you and Nikola when you're working on Classics, I'll try and help you out on those.

Karl

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 19, 2013, 07:49:45 AM
Some info:

Classic 101 is an early or European version of the Viking. #1.10.19


Classic 11 - need to link Trailblazer as well as Highlander. Trailblazer (# 1693102) has T&T; Highlander lacks both T&T.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 19, 2013, 08:18:14 AM
Here's where stuff gets messy.

According to my info the Classic 141 (#1.14.19) is the non-locking version of the Teton, which is the locking version. This refers to the corkscrew models.

In addition to the Serrated Teton, I have catalog info for a non-serrated non-locking version referred to simply as Teton (#16984). The photo shows a phillips model. However the number is the same as the locking corkscrew model. Don't know if its an error, or an earlier version or what.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 19, 2013, 08:30:00 AM
Classic 30 was also sold as North Cape and Cap Nord.

Classic 13 was also sold as Mountain.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 20, 2013, 02:25:42 AM
Already sent this to Nikola and Carlo, but a fair amount of work so I'll also post it here.  :D

The Wenger SwissMemory series is a set of knives that feature pictures of Swiss scenery. The original group consisted of two lots, three Esquires and three Commanders, each with a shot of a distinct location. The second group consisted of another three Commanders, with the scenes each being a composite photo of four Swiss locations.

Esquire SwissMemory (photo 1)

SwissMemory 950   Bernese Oberland       1.95.00.950
SwissMemory 951   Matterhorn                1.95.00.951
SwissMemory 952   Thunersee                 1.95.00.952 (not shown)

Commander SwissMemory (group 1)(photo 2)

SwissMemory 900   Lake Geneva/Lac Leman          1.94.00.900
SwissMemory 901   Furclasee                              1.94.00901
SwissMemory 902   Santis                                   1.94.00.902

Commander SwissMemory (group 2)(photo 3)

SwissMemory 903   composite of Chillon castle, Geneva fountain, Matterhorn, Luzern bridge                 1.94.00.903

SwissMemory 904   composite of Chillon castle, Matterhorn, Geneva fountain, Bern clock tower  1.94.00.904

SwissMemory 905   composite of Rhine falls, Luzern bridge, alpine meadow, lake steamer            1.94.00.905



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 20, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Thanks for all the informations Karl.
At the moment I'm busy with the Classic line.
Will update these last knives later.
There is a picture of the missing Esquire 952 in the 1995 catalog, so we could use it.
Could you post a picture of the back side of the knives?
I always wondered how they were printed on the back.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 20, 2013, 04:25:06 PM
Classic 30 was also sold as North Cape and Cap Nord.

Classic 13 was also sold as Mountain.

Are these official names?  :think:
As far as I know, the Classic 30 was first listed under the North Cape (Cap Nord) series, with the catalog number 1.30.03, but I'm not aware of an official name apart from that one.
There are actually two different Classic 13 I found.
I listed them both on the wiki.
The model you are probably referring to is the 1.12.23, which was later called Classic 13 (in 2006) and again later it changed name to Classic 132.
The model 1.23.23 was listed under the Montagne series in the 1995 catalog, but I'm not aware of a Montagne/Mountain name for it.
If you look at the italian borchure I posted on the wiki
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=70&sort_mode=name_asc&imageId=2900&scalesize=o
and this
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=70&sort_mode=name_asc&imageId=2899&scalesize=o
you can actually see that both knives were called with the names North Cape (used for three different knives) and Mountain.
However, I don't consider these official names, as they were given by the local distributor (like the Major or Oberst found in the brochure that North Man posted).
So, I'm not sure if it would be correct to use these names.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 20, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
On the SwissMemory knives the first group have a plain pale blue back; the second group have a plain dark blue back.

Info I have is:

Two Classic 13s:

Classic 13 (1) - 1 13 03 is the Backpacker (with nail file) Suggest we stay with Backpacker.

Classic 13 (2) - 1 13 29 (with flat phillips) Have two separate listings as Mountain. However from your info that appears to be a series name. Suggest list as Classic 13, with note that Mountain is a series name that is sometimes applied to it.

1.12.23 is the Classic 12 or Pathfinder. I also have it listed as Mountain and Montagne, and North Cape Basic. As with the Classic 13 (2) suggest a note that those are series name.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 20, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
On the SwissMemory knives the first group have a plain pale blue back; the second group have a plain dark blue back.

Info I have is:

Two Classic 13s:

Classic 13 (1) - 1 13 03 is the Backpacker (with nail file) Suggest we stay with Backpacker.

Classic 13 (2) - 1 13 29 (with flat phillips) Have two separate listings as Mountain. However from your info that appears to be a series name. Suggest list as Classic 13, with note that Mountain is a series name that is sometimes applied to it.

1.12.23 is the Classic 12 or Pathfinder. I also have it listed as Mountain and Montagne, and North Cape Basic. As with the Classic 13 (2) suggest a note that those are series name.

Karl,
thanks, it seems we have almost the same informations, so the wiki should be quite correct.
I think I made a mistake with the Classic 11 and that I linked it to the wrong knife.
Will try to correct this, as long as implement your suggestions.
Do you have any other Classic to add to the wiki?
I need to make few edits, but the list seems pretty much complete to me.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 21, 2013, 03:00:04 AM
Carlo,

Think Classic 11 needs to be linked to both Trailblazer and Highlander if possible. Also need to cross-reference the two as they're basically the same knife, plus or minus toothpick and tweezers.

Went through my notes looking for more Classics and didn't find any. Which means I'll probably find several that I missed next week. Doing the best we can. As always I appreciate the work you and Nikola are doing.  :salute:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 21, 2013, 10:49:13 AM
Karl,
sorry to ask again, but need your help here, as I'm more "specialized" on european models.
At the moment, the Highlander wiki page
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Highlander
mentions a variation with toothpic and tweezers.
It also mentions the Dayhiker, which has a locking bade.?????
So I listed there the old model 1.11.13 and the Classic 11.
If I understand correctly there were no variations of the Highlander with T&T.
Is this correct?
If so, not only the the old 1.11.13 and the Classic 11 must be mentioned only in the Trailblazer page,
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Trailblazer
but I should also edit the Highlander page, removing all reference of models with T&T.
And what about the Dayhiker?
Is it a variation of the Highlander or, since it has T&T, of the Trailblazer?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 22, 2013, 04:38:15 AM
I'm thinking maybe we need to eliminate either the Highlander or Trailblazer page, and group everything under the same heading. Could make the Highlander a version of the Trailblazer, the same way we've made other 'basic' (no t&t) knives versions of their respective knives. Or go with Highlander as the main page since there are more numbered variations. Opinions?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Trailblazer/Classic 11 - (red) 16931/1.11.03/1.011.009.000 (with T&T)
Trailblazer (black) - 1693102

Highlander (red) - 16979 (no T&T)
Highlander Fire Red (translucent) - 16150
Highlander Everglade Green - 16151
Highlander Smoke Grey - 16152
Highlander Glacier Blue - 16153
Highlander Mandarin Orange - 16154
Highlander Advantage Timber (camo) - 16170
Highlander Realtrees Hardwood (camo) - 16172

Serrated Highlander (red) - 16479

Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(red)- with lock (with T&T) - ?
Oak Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(oak handles) - with lock (no T&T) - ?
World Scout (same as Day Hiker)(red)(with lock and T&T) - 1.11.91.100

Related knives - EVO 11, EVO S11, EVOGrip 11, Scout Junior S11 (purple)


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 23, 2013, 07:01:44 PM
Does anybody have an idea about a 75mm Wenger with the same configuration as the "Crusader"?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Crusader
Just found it in a shop and I could not find any reference.
Will post pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 23, 2013, 09:32:05 PM
75mm Wenger? As in standard scales or stainless/horn/MOP/...? Looking forward to the pictures.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 23, 2013, 10:23:31 PM
I have a couple of old 80mms with two blades, but no info on a 75mm with two blades. Nice catch! :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 24, 2013, 02:57:57 AM
Here's the info I have on Wenger Basics, low cost versions without toothpick and tweezers.

The wiki lists three:

Basic 5 - Entree
Basic 11 - Forester
Basic 62 - Picnic

My info:

Basic 63 - another name for Entree  (#1.63.41)
Basic 65 - Apprentice  (# 16949 / 1.65.01)
Basic 66 - Classic 66   (#1.66.41)
Basic 7 - Commander  (#? )
Basic 8 - Backpacker   (#1.08.01)
Basic 9 - another name for Forester (#?)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 24, 2013, 03:24:45 AM
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!!   :salute: :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 24, 2013, 03:31:17 AM
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!!   :salute: :salute: :salute:

Thanks, but mainly just going through my notes.

Welcome back! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 24, 2013, 03:34:52 AM
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!!   :salute: :salute: :salute:

Thanks, but mainly just going through my notes.

Welcome back! :salute:
Thanks.

By recently I mean all the way back a couple of months including the Compass stuff and lots of variations on models.  Picked up a couple catalogs recently so they might help some, I'll try to get them scanned; have a big back log of SAK stuff to catch up on.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 24, 2013, 03:39:32 AM
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!!   :salute: :salute: :salute:

Thanks, but mainly just going through my notes.

Welcome back! :salute:
Thanks.

By recently I mean all the way back a couple of months including the Compass stuff and lots of variations on models.  Picked up a couple catalogs recently so they might help some, I'll try to get them scanned; have a big back log of SAK stuff to catch up on.

There's been a lot of good work by a lot of people. Nikola and Carlo have made it a major project to update the wiki. Looking forward to your input also.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 24, 2013, 03:52:35 AM
Having the Wenger section updated will be a nice way to honor the Wenger SAK legacy/heritage.  It's great to see many people getting involved in this now. 

Just grabbed the United Woods set thanks to Martin letting me know they were out in the wild.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 24, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
Does anybody have an idea about a 75mm Wenger with the same configuration as the "Crusader"?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Crusader
Just found it in a shop and I could not find any reference.
Will post pictures tomorrow.

Here are the pictures, with an Esquire 65mm for size comparison
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 24, 2013, 09:58:08 AM
Wow a lot of great investigative work recently!!   :salute: :salute: :salute:

Nice to see you back, Francis!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 25, 2013, 03:12:38 AM
Does anybody have an idea about a 75mm Wenger with the same configuration as the "Crusader"?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Crusader
Just found it in a shop and I could not find any reference.
Will post pictures tomorrow.



Here are the pictures, with an Esquire 65mm for size comparison

Haven't seen that before. Nice find!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 25, 2013, 04:59:31 AM
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past.  Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on November 25, 2013, 05:58:09 AM
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past.  Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.

Sorry but the only 75mm knife I have seen is the VIP.  :-\
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 25, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past.  Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.

Sorry but the only 75mm knife I have seen is the VIP.  :-\

Now you got me thinking I saw one too. :ahhh

 :D

As for the 75mm VIP, there's a pic of it in Chakos 65/75mm thread about half way down (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/wenger-6575mm-knives/msg500380/#msg500380).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on November 25, 2013, 04:53:47 PM
I did a quick check and can't find a reference for a 75mm Crusader, but I seem to remember seeing one in the past.  Maybe Stressmaster will have something on it.

Sorry but the only 75mm knife I have seen is the VIP.  :-\

Now you got me thinking I saw one too. :ahhh

 :D

As for the 75mm VIP, there's a pic of it in Chakos 65/75mm thread about half way down (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/wenger-6575mm-knives/msg500380/#msg500380).
There are some good shots of the VIP on the SAKWicki as well. Both models with and without keyring. I realize I probably should have used something for size reference in that shot. :pok:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+VIP
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=325&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sticktodrum on November 25, 2013, 06:11:42 PM
Two more Soldats are showing up today, and one more Swiss Army 70 is headed to my neck of the woods fairly soon.

Muahahaha! I will preserve the history in my own closet!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 25, 2013, 10:10:12 PM
I'm thinking maybe we need to eliminate either the Highlander or Trailblazer page, and group everything under the same heading. Could make the Highlander a version of the Trailblazer, the same way we've made other 'basic' (no t&t) knives versions of their respective knives. Or go with Highlander as the main page since there are more numbered variations. Opinions?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Trailblazer/Classic 11 - (red) 16931/1.11.03/1.011.009.000 (with T&T)
Trailblazer (black) - 1693102

Highlander (red) - 16979 (no T&T)
Highlander Fire Red (translucent) - 16150
Highlander Everglade Green - 16151
Highlander Smoke Grey - 16152
Highlander Glacier Blue - 16153
Highlander Mandarin Orange - 16154
Highlander Advantage Timber (camo) - 16170
Highlander Realtrees Hardwood (camo) - 16172

Serrated Highlander (red) - 16479

Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(red)- with lock (with T&T) - ?
Oak Day Hiker (Eddie Bauer)(oak handles) - with lock (no T&T) - ?
World Scout (same as Day Hiker)(red)(with lock and T&T) - 1.11.91.100

Related knives - EVO 11, EVO S11, EVOGrip 11, Scout Junior S11 (purple)

Photo 1:
Highlanders - Red, Fire Red, Mandarin Orange, Everglade Green, Glacier Blue.

Photo 2: Eddie Bauer Oak Day Hiker

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ausjulius on November 26, 2013, 04:27:45 AM
i think the wenger vs victorinox thing  has some valid points on either sides,
for me ive always found wengers are cheaper to buy, atleast in europe and asia/paciic...

thats one point .. i can buy a wenger two bladed evo or standard keychain knife in australian for about 10$ ...
vic is about 17 for the same style ect..

i think wenger makes more interesting cool designs with more facinating tools.

but their fit and finish is pooere than victorinox.
still compared to other production knives.. theyer fine products.. compare.. say case or schrade   ect slip joints.. and from a box of 100 youll have quite a few rejects  but wenger not so,


for me the locking wenger ranger knives the old ones with the clip point blade were a really good design and very well made, so was their multitool,



generally they have always produced more very specific tools and more options,
like black blades more different handle materials , and more strange speciality tools , like a skiing tool or a bike tool ect...

 the mini grip multitool was very neat too,



their knife blade shape is superior to vics and their small knife blade is superior in shape as well,

 their inbult backspring/spring is better than the vic spring  on the pliers and scissors,

their scissors are not for cutting nails though they are inferior to the vic product , suited to thread or other matierls much better..

which is silly as they should really market 2 different scissors.. unless you want serrated finger nails haha,


their plier is a neat design on their knives (small plier) but its not very strong compared to the vic


their polishing is also inferior and ofver the last decade i have noticed that they are over polishing their products producing to rounded edges,
 this can be seen with many wengers lacking a pointed tip,


also their sharpening on the blades is poor. most a blunt when you get them , (easy fix its true but its the first thing you see)

the vics are all shaving sharp and finly sharpened, the wengers are doune on a much rougher grit and burred or dont meet in the edge..

even on the old ranger lock blades they were blunt out of the box..


hit and miss with their sharpening,,



their can opener is inferiro to the vic can opener..


their awl is also inferior.


their knife blade and tools and typically thinner..

 it seems like this have lots of good ideas but dont stick with them long vic sticks with one  and runs with if for a long time.. a good idea in that lne of business.


for me id take tiher.. and i own about 150-200 of each . so what can i say..



i find wenger more interesting and more facinating creative tools.
i finde vic just better profile polished.. machined.. ect..
but then vic is a much bigger more "hightech" factory.

id say buy them both they both work well , youll be happy with either...........



both beat anything else on the market/..

eg only other multiblade maker like vic and wenger is  mikov :) not the worst knives.. but you can see how the "competition" stacks up.......

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 27, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
Here's the info I have on Wenger Basics, low cost versions without toothpick and tweezers.

The wiki lists three:

Basic 5 - Entree
Basic 11 - Forester
Basic 62 - Picnic

My info:

Basic 63 - another name for Entree  (#1.63.41)
Basic 65 - Apprentice  (# 16949 / 1.65.01)
Basic 66 - Classic 66   (#1.66.41)
Basic 7 - Commander  (#? )
Basic 8 - Backpacker   (#1.08.01)
Basic 9 - another name for Forester (#?)

OK, I did some research and I have quite different informations on the Basic line.
I was able to find a total of 7 models.
07
08
09
62
63
65
66
There are matching catalog numbers and pictures for all the models in both the european 1995 catalog and in the european 2006 catalog.
The european 2005 catalog shows only four models (07, 62, 63 and 65).
I couldn't find any reference for the "Basic 5" and "Basic 11", as are now listed on the wiki.
According to my catalogs, the Basic 5 is actually the Basic 63 and the Basic 11 is actually the Basic 09.
Karl could you please check again.
I need someone who can confirm the existance of the "Basic 5" and "Basic 11" names (North America market? I did check the few NA catalogs I have, and I didn't find any reference to the Basic series).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 12:04:50 AM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 28, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 12:09:46 PM
The number for the Sailfish is 16955. The plain-handled version is 1 19 13. Also includes screw driver, can opener, and reamer.

The Sailfish is a rather rare piece. Shows up in Wenger's 1979 North American catalog (page 5; see wiki).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 28, 2013, 12:33:36 PM
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=88706;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 28, 2013, 12:42:11 PM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name.  The numbering sceme transitioned too.  If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list.  Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 28, 2013, 12:45:45 PM
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.

....
Love that one!   I am going to miss the Evowood.  I hope Victorinox continues to use this Walnut, but uses more material than they used on the 111mm Damascus scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on November 28, 2013, 01:19:48 PM
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.

....
Love that one!   I am going to miss the Evowood.  I hope Victorinox continues to use this Walnut, but a more material than they used on the 111mm Damascus.

Thanks :tu:, i do not have 100% info on the EvoWoods, some say it will be made with Victorinox stamp.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on November 28, 2013, 01:40:56 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013
Looks great!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on November 28, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
The number for the Sailfish is 16955. The plain-handled version is 1 19 13. Also includes screw driver, can opener, and reamer.

The Sailfish is a rather rare piece. Shows up in Wenger's 1979 North American catalog (page 5; see wiki).

Hmmm, I just picked up an older Sailfish then, I was trying to figure out what model it is.
Mine has a bail replacing the more modern keyring, and the older dogleg can opener. Standard red scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 28, 2013, 02:53:05 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 28, 2013, 03:03:37 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 28, 2013, 08:08:22 PM
Wenger United Woods

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=88730;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 09:05:05 PM
Some lovely knives show folks :tu: i jump in with my lastest Wenger, - EvoWood 10 with the Association and Alltid Beredt (be prepared) on it. This is a Norwegian scout knife, laser engraved here. It is beautiful.

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=88706;image)

Great looking knife.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 28, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 09:13:25 PM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name.  The numbering sceme transitioned too.  If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list.  Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.

The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them? In the meantime keeping them along with a note about their uncertain status is probably the way to go.

Can anyone else help? :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on November 28, 2013, 09:25:59 PM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name.  The numbering sceme transitioned too.  If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list.  Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.

The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?

Can anyone else help? :think:

My guess is from the misinterpretation of the German listings.

You can find it listed on Smartknives (http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Basic-5-Knife.htm) as Basic 5 and for instance this Australian site list (http://www.travelgear.com.au/wenger-basic-5-swiss-army-knife/) is as such too. Most German sites (http://www.mctrek.de/Licht,+Messer,+Tools/Klappmesser/Wenger+Basic+5+teilig+Schweizer+Messer_4021823) I find don't actually name the SAKs with their actual model name but rather count its functions so somewhere along the way this: "Wenger Basic 5 teilig Schweizer Messer" (Wenger Basic 5 piece/tool Swiss knife = blade/combo/corkscrew/toothpick/tweezers) got named Wenger Basic 5 on other sites.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 28, 2013, 09:34:18 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.

Thanks !

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on November 28, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.

Thanks !


I would dearly love to get one of these.
Can anyone help me?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
PHEASANTS:

There are two Wengers with pheasants on the handle. The first (shown) is a three-blade version with packlock. It's number is 16987. The same knife was sold as the Cumberland (16981) with a hiker on the handle. The Cumberland is part of a Backpacker series, and has that name on the main blade. Don't know of a plain handle version

The second Pheasant (no photo) is a larger eight-blade version (16954). It's blades included: Main blade, small clip blade, saw, scissors, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver; and on the back phillips s.d. and awl. See page 4 of the 1979 Wenger catalog in the wiki. It's plain handled version is 1 18 13.





Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 28, 2013, 10:29:03 PM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name.  The numbering sceme transitioned too.  If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list.  Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.

The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?

Can anyone else help? :think:

My guess is from the misinterpretation of the German listings.

You can find it listed on Smartknives (http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Basic-5-Knife.htm) as Basic 5 and for instance this Australian site list (http://www.travelgear.com.au/wenger-basic-5-swiss-army-knife/) is as such too. Most German sites (http://www.mctrek.de/Licht,+Messer,+Tools/Klappmesser/Wenger+Basic+5+teilig+Schweizer+Messer_4021823) I find don't actually name the SAKs with their actual model name but rather count its functions so somewhere along the way this: "Wenger Basic 5 teilig Schweizer Messer" (Wenger Basic 5 piece/tool Swiss knife = blade/combo/corkscrew/toothpick/tweezers) got named Wenger Basic 5 on other sites.
I can't say where they came from right now, only that they likely came from a good source.  However even catalogs and catalog images can be wrong, and things get mixed up at different vendors all the time so I'm not saying they are correct.

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 10:29:19 PM
DUCKS

The are two Wengers with ducks on the handle. The first is a seven-blade version with packlock (16991). Basically it's a version of the locking Teton (16984) with a different handle.

The second is a large eleven-blade model (16957)(page 4 of the Wenger 1979 catalog). Don't know of a plain-handled version. It's tools include:  main blade, nail file, top-side phillips, wrench, scissors, saw, magnifying glass, can opener, bottle opener/screwdriver; and the back  corkscrew and awl.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 10:31:29 PM
Carlo,

The only info I have for the Basic 5 and 11 is what is currently in the wiki. My notebook data agrees with yours that the Basic 63 is the Classic 63/Entree, and the Basic 9 is the Forester. Also that the Basic 62 is the Classic 62/Picnic (missed that earlier). So it looks like our info's in agreement. Unless someone else comes up with other info I'd say drop the 5 & 11 and go with what we have.

Looking good!  :tu:

Karl

Yes, agree.
Will wait few days, than I'll edit the wiki entries for the 5 and 11 and hopefully add the missing ones.
I would not be in a big hurry to edit the Wiki for Basic 5 and Basic 11, the marketing name Basic and Classic are like almost the same just Wenger's transition from the Standard name.  The numbering sceme transitioned too.  If you really feel they are wrong, I'd put an 'Under Review' or something next to the names in the 85mm list.  Something these things take a while to shake out and we've been pretty careful before listing new names.

The info on the Basic 5 and 11 came from somewhere, but neither Carlo nor I can document it. Do you have any more info on them?

Can anyone else help? :think:

My guess is from the misinterpretation of the German listings.

You can find it listed on Smartknives (http://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Knives/Wenger-Basic-5-Knife.htm) as Basic 5 and for instance this Australian site list (http://www.travelgear.com.au/wenger-basic-5-swiss-army-knife/) is as such too. Most German sites (http://www.mctrek.de/Licht,+Messer,+Tools/Klappmesser/Wenger+Basic+5+teilig+Schweizer+Messer_4021823) I find don't actually name the SAKs with their actual model name but rather count its functions so somewhere along the way this: "Wenger Basic 5 teilig Schweizer Messer" (Wenger Basic 5 piece/tool Swiss knife = blade/combo/corkscrew/toothpick/tweezers) got named Wenger Basic 5 on other sites.
I can't say where they came from right now, only that they likely came from a good source.  However even catalogs and catalog images can be wrong, and things get mixed up at different vendors all the time so I'm not saying they are correct.

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.

Which is why my hair is grey and thinning.  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CanadianLMfan on November 28, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
Wenger Esquire is on sale at Sail Canada now. If you are close to one, get it now!

https://www.sail.ca/en/catalogue/orientation/multi-tools/8138/esquire-brushed-stainless/
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
EAGLE

The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 28, 2013, 11:18:12 PM

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.

Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 28, 2013, 11:21:08 PM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.

Thanks !


I would dearly love to get one of these.
Can anyone help me?

Go again on the previous FCS link and read carefully... All is explained in English and in French !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 28, 2013, 11:34:26 PM

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.

Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!

The info I have is:

Basic 63 (no t&t) - 1.63.41
Classic 63 (with t&t) - 1.063.049.000

Obviously from two different eras, but essentially the same.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 29, 2013, 04:12:36 AM

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.

Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
I know; I trust your research, but I just want to be careful as you well know new information appears all the time and we have to make corrections.

Classic 63 was just one example, don't worry too much about the examples I gave for that one because this is just part of the basic naming of that series, there is nothing really special about the Classic 63 example.  I could have used Classic 62, Classic 66 or others in my example.  I was just showing the nature of these naming conventions that use a name and number in that they are not precise.  The same is true for the Evo system today especially between S versions and non-S version that retain the same number but may change tools as well as having the lock or not.

I think someone had a bad idea to call the traditional knives the Basic Series, but before it got too far someone put a stop to it and they started using the Classic naming.  Or it was a particular region did have a good translation and somehow we ended up with Basic for a while before it was caught.  However since Wenger has changed numbering at some times that may account for some of the number changes as well for the same model.

Update: Just to be clear I do agree that Basic 5 and Basic 11 seem to be incorrect, but I'm wondering why that is; either there was a change in some Wenger numbering, something like Enki suggests and there was a more basic translation issue between some region sites, or just simply someplace had it wrong. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 29, 2013, 05:06:19 AM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.

Thanks !

It seems the inscription would have been better as "Adieu Wenger" or "Au revoir Wenger".

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 29, 2013, 09:07:51 AM
FCS is offering a very nice Bye Bye Wenger limited edition: http://www.fans-du-coutea...-le-couteau-du-forum-2013 (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013)
Looks great!
Nice!  I'd like one of those.   :drool:

And it's the last limited and numbered serie of Wenger !

You chose wisely. :hatsoff: Great color and a very good model to represent the Wenger SAKs. One of my favorites too.

Thanks !

It seems the inscription would have been better as "Adieu Wenger" or "Au revoir Wenger".

"Bye Bye Wenger" is more friendly, less sad than "Adieu" or "Au revoir", it's as if talking to a friend and it's international, everyone can understand...

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/byebye10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 09:24:32 AM
Very nice knife jcfiguet!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 29, 2013, 09:34:21 AM
Very nice knife jcfiguet!

It's just a drawing of the Wenger Factory!

I hope on a photo it will be more beautiful !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 09:43:22 AM

I will note though that in Europe the names like "Classic 63" can represent more than one model, so it's possible (or even likely) the same is true for the Basic series.  As an example 1.63.49 and 1.63.41 have been listed as "Classic 63".  This may not be a great example, since the only difference is the inclusion, or not, of the Toothpick and Tweezers, but it demonstrates the short comings of this naming convention, and similarily Basic, and even Evo.  It seems like the "Basic" naming convention was used only for a very short time or in regions where it had a better translation.

So I'm just saying better to play it safe, as we all know the naming of SAKs has been anything but precise.  I'll keep an eye open for references to the Basic Series.

Francis,
let me check tomorrow morning why the Entree page has these two identifiers:
1.63.41 Wenger AN: standard configuration
1.063.049.000 Wenger AN: standard configuration (Classic 63)
as I have all my catalogs at work.
It could be very possibly because of an error, and I apologize in advance if it was the case.
However, it took me almost two weeks for just for editing the classic menu, because I was cross-checking data and catalog numbers using 5 european catalogs and 2 North American ones.
So the edits were made only after some serious research and I totally agree that a "slow" approach is the way to go!
I know; I trust your research, but I just want to be careful as you well know new information appears all the time and we have to make corrections.

Classic 63 was just one example, don't worry too much about the examples I gave for that one because this is just part of the basic naming of that series, there is nothing really special about the Classic 63 example.  I could have used Classic 62, Classic 66 or others in my example.  I was just showing the nature of these naming conventions that use a name and number in that they are not precise.  The same is true for the Evo system today especially between S versions and non-S version that retain the same number but may change tools as well as having the lock or not.

I think someone had a bad idea to call the traditional knives the Basic Series, but before it got too far someone put a stop to it and they started using the Classic naming.  Or it was a particular region did have a good translation and somehow we ended up with Basic for a while before it was caught.  However since Wenger has changed numbering at some times that may account for some of the number changes as well for the same model.

Update: Just to be clear I do agree that Basic 5 and Basic 11 seem to be incorrect, but I'm wondering why that is; either there was a change in some Wenger numbering, something like Enki suggests and there was a more basic translation issue between some region sites, or just simply someplace had it wrong.

No worries, it is always nice to discuss about Wengers.  :tu:
I checked again, and I think that at the moment the wiki page is 100% correct (apart from the Basic "5" dilemma).
Anyway, at the moment the Entrée page list both the Basic ("5" for the wiki, "63" according to my data) and the Classic 63.
The identifier 1.63.41 is the correct one for the Basic 63 (or "5" following the wiki name).
This identifier does not refer to the Classic 63

(http://i.imgur.com/EqTA9lc.jpg)

As for the Classic 63, my information matches the ones that Karl provided.
All the references I found show the Classic 63 with toothpick and tweezers

(http://i.imgur.com/G1bWNGJ.jpg)

I think that the identifier shown in the wiki is the correct one for the Classic 63
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 09:53:16 AM
As for the Basic line discussion, I honestly think that Enki was very correct about the possible reason of the names Basic 5 and Basic 11.
As for my data.
European 1995 catalog (already in the wiki)
(http://i.imgur.com/2nRIRTJ.jpg)

European 2006 catalog
(http://i.imgur.com/sL5NFUQ.jpg)

As you can see all the catalog numbers do match.

As I stated in my previous message, the european 2005 catalog only mention few models. Interesting enough the 2005 catalog show only the knife name, but not the catalog numbers.
Will try to upload it and the 2006 one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 29, 2013, 01:09:34 PM
....

Anyway, at the moment the Entrée page list both the Basic ("5" for the wiki, "63" according to my data) and the Classic 63.
The identifier 1.63.41 is the correct one for the Basic 63 (or "5" following the wiki name).
This identifier does not refer to the Classic 63

(http://i.imgur.com/EqTA9lc.jpg)

As for the Classic 63, my information matches the ones that Karl provided.
All the references I found show the Classic 63 with toothpick and tweezers

(http://i.imgur.com/G1bWNGJ.jpg)

I think that the identifier shown in the wiki is the correct one for the Classic 63

Here is an example from the Eastern Europe Distributor catalog for the Classic 63.  I didn't see this catalog on the Wiki, so I'll try to track it down and post it.  I'm not sure of the date, but I think a member here, SOSAK, or guns.ru said it was 2008 some time back when we were using it as a reference for the origional Ranger Series.  It could be it was just converted in 2008, I can remember off the top of my head.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 29, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
 :salute:

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=88800;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 03:24:59 PM


Here is an example from the Eastern Europe Distributor catalog for the Classic 63.  I didn't see this catalog on the Wiki, so I'll try to track it down and post it.  I'm not sure of the date, but I think a member here, SOSAK, or guns.ru said it was 2008 some time back when we were using it as a reference for the origional Ranger Series.  It could be it was just converted in 2008, I can remember off the top of my head.

Ah, now I understand why you were referring to two different Classic 63 models, with and without toothpick and tweezers!
Seems like they are using the catalog numbers of both the Basic and the Classic line, but they are listing the knife just as Classic 63

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
EAGLE

The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?

The only image I ever saw is in the catalog that Francis posted.
I think it is also interesting the Deer, which has a different imprint as the one usually seen.
-------
I have this knife coming from the USA.
Do you think the image is a company logo or a Wenger imprint?
The knife is the "locking Monarch" we have been discussing few pages back.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 29, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
That's an interesting one.  I think it looks like a Wenger-Imprint.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 29, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
That's an interesting one.  I think it looks like a Wenger-Imprint.
I think the same, but need to have the knife in my hands first.
I will post pictures when I'll get it.
I saw the auction (USA only) by pure luck, using my "ebay cheat" and had tatoosteven buying it for me.
I think the seller is the same of the Sailfish that Karl bought.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 30, 2013, 01:50:34 AM
EAGLE

The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?

The only image I ever saw is in the catalog that Francis posted.
I think it is also interesting the Deer, which has a different imprint as the one usually seen.
-------
I have this knife coming from the USA.
Do you think the image is a company logo or a Wenger imprint?
The knife is the "locking Monarch" we have been discussing few pages back.

Very nice! Never seen that logo before. Agree with Francis that it looks like Wenger did it. Wonder if it's a rare standard model? Could be a special run for some outdoor equipment company, but all the ones I have (Eddie Bauer, Cabela's, Orvis, etc.)  have the company name prominently on the knife.

I bought the Sailfish from winddance.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 30, 2013, 03:14:00 AM
EAGLE

The Wenger 1979 catalog also list an Eagle (16951), basically a Viking/Classic 101 with an eagle on the handle. I don't have one; does anyone here have a decent photo?

The only image I ever saw is in the catalog that Francis posted.
I think it is also interesting the Deer, which has a different imprint as the one usually seen.
-------
I have this knife coming from the USA.
Do you think the image is a company logo or a Wenger imprint?
The knife is the "locking Monarch" we have been discussing few pages back.

Very nice! Never seen that logo before. Agree with Francis that it looks like Wenger did it. Wonder if it's a rare standard model? Could be a special run for some outdoor equipment company, but all the ones I have (Eddie Bauer, Cabela's, Orvis, etc.)  have the company name prominently on the knife.

I bought the Sailfish from winddance.
It will be interesting to find out about the Canoe. It does look like the type of image Eddie Bauer or some other Outfitter would do, but either way it's a nice one.

I just looked at an 83 Wenger catalog, has some new stuff on the Dynasty series, stuff we've seen on knives in terms of different engravings.  Should have it scanned this weeked.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 30, 2013, 08:32:37 PM
A little summary for English-speaking readers :

http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t750-le-couteau-du-forum-2013#9007

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/byebye10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 30, 2013, 11:33:02 PM
Since my French is nil, I doubt I'll spend much time on FCS; but glad to have you here!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 30, 2013, 11:36:39 PM
Since my French is nil, I doubt I'll spend much time on FCS; but glad to have you here!  :cheers:

Thanks, but you know my English is nil too ! I use google translate !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 30, 2013, 11:45:36 PM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 30, 2013, 11:53:48 PM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:

Waouuuuuuuuuuu ! So interesting ! Step by step I suppose you will find all Wenger catalogs !!! :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 01:04:18 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:

Waouuuuuuuuuuu ! So interesting ! Step by step I suppose you will find all Wenger catalogs !!! :drink:
I wish, but I don't think that will happen.  In the mean time we have 1999 to look forward to soon, but we have a lot of information from around that time and i don't have much time right now and i have a bigger sak project that needs doing so it will have to wait a little while.   :drink:

 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 01:34:00 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 01:59:07 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.

If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on  screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 02:10:45 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.

If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on  screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...

See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 02:42:40 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.

If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on  screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...

See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.

I'm trying to get the original research on the date, but I am presuming on the positive side that it was valid.

We know it's later than 79, since we have the 79 catalog from the same distributor. It's almost certain they did not release one in 1980, so that would narrow the possible range to 1981 at the earliest.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 01, 2013, 03:08:56 AM
As far as I remember the locking bottle opener was announced in 1982 and first seen in 1984 so 1983 would probably be correct but I'll wait for North Man for confirmation on the Wenger dating.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 03:38:12 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.

If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on  screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...

See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.

I'm trying to get the original research on the date, but I am presuming on the positive side that it was valid.

We know it's later than 79, since we have the 79 catalog from the same distributor. It's almost certain they did not release one in 1980, so that would narrow the possible range to 1981 at the earliest.

Yes, you are true it's later than 79.

I have no information of no editing a 80 catalogue...

But I'm not sure that U.S. importers are late behind Switzerland (70% of Wenger production is sold in North America) and generally Wenger catalogs or advertisements in magazines match with deposit dates of patents for new tools. So I think that 83 would be too late for this catalog.

Another detail of little importance : page 6, the alox "Standard Issue" shown is a old 1961 soldier knife model (variant 2) which was not used in the Swiss army after 1978 (see : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-2), so I guess Wenger continued to sell its old stock to civilian production LOL !

Finally this catalog is very important because we can identify many knives with printed handles that have not been distributed in Europe !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 08:37:43 AM

Wenger 1983 US Catalog posted to SAKwiki. (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=107)

It's interesting with several small pieces of new information.

 :cheers:
I should mention I have not yet been able to confirm the date of 1983, so let me know if you have any ideas on this.

If you have no indication of printed date it will be dificult to confirm 1983.
In this catalog we have indications about the "locking blade" but nothing about the security lock on  screwdriver patented in 1982. So I suppose the date is between 1979 and 1981...

See page 9 : it's the old screwdriver without security !
Actually that would probably support 1983, since US importers generally lag Switzerland, sometimes by a few years, but less so with Wenger than with Victorinox.

I'm trying to get the original research on the date, but I am presuming on the positive side that it was valid.

We know it's later than 79, since we have the 79 catalog from the same distributor. It's almost certain they did not release one in 1980, so that would narrow the possible range to 1981 at the earliest.

Yes, you are true it's later than 79.

I have no information of no editing a 80 catalogue...

But I'm not sure that U.S. importers are late behind Switzerland (70% of Wenger production is sold in North America) and generally Wenger catalogs or advertisements in magazines match with deposit dates of patents for new tools. So I think that 83 would be too late for this catalog.

Another detail of little importance : page 6, the alox "Standard Issue" shown is a old 1961 soldier knife model (variant 2) which was not used in the Swiss army after 1978 (see : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-2), so I guess Wenger continued to sell its old stock to civilian production LOL !

Finally this catalog is very important because we can identify many knives with printed handles that have not been distributed in Europe !
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 01, 2013, 12:52:07 PM

Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com

hope you like the Pictures!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 12:52:21 PM
...
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.

Yes I know the problem of re-using old pictures on catalogs, but when Wenger adds a new invention as the "packlock" for the blade they are advertising on the new tool or the new invention, it is also well known.

Another indication : the first patent date known for the security on the screwdriver is from august 82 (if I don't make a mistake) and usually Wenger makes catalogs between february and april.
 
So, if both arguments are true, then this could be a catalog of 82
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 01:35:00 PM

Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com

hope you like the Pictures!

Hello North Man,

Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !

Very good work around Wenger brand !

I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!

I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 01, 2013, 03:29:40 PM

Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com

hope you like the Pictures!

Hello North Man,

Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !

Very good work around Wenger brand !

I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!

I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.

 :cheers:

Yes, North Man, congratulations!
I just had a look at your blog, and it is really well written with a lot of nice pictures!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 04:18:41 PM
...
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.

Yes I know the problem of re-using old pictures on catalogs, but when Wenger adds a new invention as the "packlock" for the blade they are advertising on the new tool or the new invention, it is also well known.

Another indication : the first patent date known for the security on the screwdriver is from august 82 (if I don't make a mistake) and usually Wenger makes catalogs between february and april.
 
So, if both arguments are true, then this could be a catalog of 82
Yes my comment was related to the image of the Standard Issue, obviously they would have a picture of any new feature and we can agree that this catalog pre-dates the introduction of the Paclock for the screwdriver in the US.  Now we just have to find out when that was.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 04:20:06 PM

Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com

hope you like the Pictures!

Hello North Man,

Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !

Very good work around Wenger brand !

I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!

I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.

 :cheers:

Yes, North Man, congratulations!
I just had a look at your blog, and it is really well written with a lot of nice pictures!
Nice Northman, glad to see you have a website again.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 01, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
...
Remember often in the older catalogs older pictures were used to save production costs where it was not too important to have the latest picture.

Yes I know the problem of re-using old pictures on catalogs, but when Wenger adds a new invention as the "packlock" for the blade they are advertising on the new tool or the new invention, it is also well known.

Another indication : the first patent date known for the security on the screwdriver is from august 82 (if I don't make a mistake) and usually Wenger makes catalogs between february and april.
 
So, if both arguments are true, then this could be a catalog of 82
Yes my comment was related to the image of the Standard Issue, obviously they would have a picture of any new feature and we can agree that this catalog pre-dates the introduction of the Paclock for the screwdriver in the US.  Now we just have to find out when that was.
Also note we have the US print advertisement(s) from Precise in late 1983 that mention locking-main-blades, but nothing about the screwdriver and pictures show the old one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 01, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
Any love for Wenger??

lol - At this moment...none!! :facepalm:

TBH I'll be glad when its all over and done with, pretty sick now of spending good money each month on yet more Wenger's, simply because if I don't and decide later I'd like one I'll have to pay whatever the going rate will be. Providing of course its available. I've seriously had a real gutful these last few months.

Roll on 2014  :whistle: back to normality :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 01, 2013, 07:44:40 PM

Great work People!, just did not have time to be here to much. I feel you all are very good. By the way, my new webpage http://www.sakhome.com

hope you like the Pictures!

Hello North Man,

Congratulation for your website http://www.sakhome.com !

Very good work around Wenger brand !

I don't speak Norvegian but with google translate it's easier to understand !!!

I made a little advertising post of your website on FCS (http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t756-nouveau-site-de-northman-consacre-a-wenger#9027) for our french speaking readers.

 :cheers:

Yes, North Man, congratulations!
I just had a look at your blog, and it is really well written with a lot of nice pictures!
Nice Northman, glad to see you have a website again.  :cheers:
Thanks to everyone! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on December 01, 2013, 08:13:56 PM
Any love for Wenger??

lol - At this moment...none!! :facepalm:

TBH I'll be glad when its all over and done with, pretty sick now of spending good money each month on yet more Wenger's, simply because if I don't and decide later I'd like one I'll have to pay whatever the going rate will be. Providing of course its available. I've seriously had a real gutful these last few months.

Roll on 2014  :whistle: back to normality :ahhh
The more I think about it... it feels an awful lot like extortion. I too have stocked up on certain Wengers because of their upcoming demise, and that ties up resources I could otherwise be putting into other hobbies/brands etc...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 01, 2013, 08:53:30 PM
Any love for Wenger??

lol - At this moment...none!! :facepalm:

TBH I'll be glad when its all over and done with, pretty sick now of spending good money each month on yet more Wenger's, simply because if I don't and decide later I'd like one I'll have to pay whatever the going rate will be. Providing of course its available. I've seriously had a real gutful these last few months.

Roll on 2014  :whistle: back to normality :ahhh
The more I think about it... it feels an awful lot like extortion. I too have stocked up on certain Wengers because of their upcoming demise, and that ties up resources I could otherwise be putting into other hobbies/brands etc...

....and even bills too  :facepalm:

I have developed a seriously warped sense of value. Funnily enough it began with Wenger's announcement not but a year ago  :whistle:

Very sly marketing tactics, wouldn't  you agree  :twak:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on December 01, 2013, 09:00:36 PM
You bet. They know exactly what they're doing  :rant:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 01, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
You bet. They know exactly what they're doing  :rant:

I'm sure they do.

But...... I think its cured me!!
Wenger is no more...gone!!!
Victorinox have basically kept the same lines running for what?? Must be going on close to a decade, if not longer  :think:
Next year they will no doubt unveil new lines, and no doubt those new lines will run and run and run.... No need to buy, they'll be there next month, next year etc etc. Victorinox isn't going anywhere!!!
Basically what I'm saying is I think I'm more or less done!! None of this modern stuff actually appeals to me. Its all very much,  a much of a muchness as they say.

I think I will struggle to keep my enthusiasm up in 2014 (I'll certainly struggle to find anything worth buying that's for sure). Wenger's plight is what's hooked me for the past 12 months.

None of the big 4 seem that interested anymore, its all becoming rather stale or maybe I'm becoming rather bored of it. I can't decide. :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 01, 2013, 09:51:50 PM
Already sent this to Nikola and Carlo, but a fair amount of work so I'll also post it here.  :D

The Wenger SwissMemory series is a set of knives that feature pictures of Swiss scenery. The original group consisted of two lots, three Esquires and three Commanders, each with a shot of a distinct location. The second group consisted of another three Commanders, with the scenes each being a composite photo of four Swiss locations.

Esquire SwissMemory (photo 1)

SwissMemory 950   Bernese Oberland       1.95.00.950
SwissMemory 951   Matterhorn                1.95.00.951
SwissMemory 952   Thunersee                 1.95.00.952 (not shown)

Commander SwissMemory (group 1)(photo 2)

SwissMemory 900   Lake Geneva/Lac Leman          1.94.00.900
SwissMemory 901   Furclasee                              1.94.00901
SwissMemory 902   Santis                                   1.94.00.902

Commander SwissMemory (group 2)(photo 3)

SwissMemory 903   composite of Chillon castle, Geneva fountain, Matterhorn, Luzern bridge                 1.94.00.903

SwissMemory 904   composite of Chillon castle, Matterhorn, Geneva fountain, Bern clock tower  1.94.00.904

SwissMemory 905   composite of Rhine falls, Luzern bridge, alpine meadow, lake steamer            1.94.00.905


Running late as usual but here it finally is. If changes are necessary, let me know.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2013, 10:45:57 PM
@tosh and @sawman

I went to Delemont last month to visit the Wenger factory...

It was rather sad: in the store, they sell the last stocks of Wenger knives and in the factory, the blades are already stamped Victorinox, not Wenger, and some "pillars" like Mr. Peter Hug left the company.
Wenger Staff still does not understand the decision of Mr. Elserner junior to stop making Wenger knives. It seems that Mr. Elsener senior (died recently) did not want this strategy...

There is no clear communication regarding the future : no one can say if a part of the Wenger poduction will continue to be distributed under the Victorinox brand nor for how long.

So I'm not sure we will able to find Wenger knives in 2 or 3 years, when distributors stocks will be exhausted.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 01, 2013, 11:43:18 PM
@tosh and @sawman

I went to Delemont last month to visit the Wenger factory...

It was rather sad: in the store, they sell the last stocks of Wenger knives and in the factory, the blades are already stamped Victorinox, not Wenger, and some "pillars" like Mr. Peter Hug left the company.
Wenger Staff still does not understand the decision of Mr. Elserner junior to stop making Wenger knives. It seems that Mr. Elsener senior (died recently) did not want this strategy...

There is no clear communication regarding the future : no one can say if a part of the Wenger poduction will continue to be distributed under the Victorinox brand nor for how long.

So I'm not sure we will able to find Wenger knives in 2 or 3 years, when distributors stocks will be exhausted.

Thanks for the reply J-C.
Yes, I bet it was very moving seeing wenger disappearing. To be perfectly honest, I'm actually stunned that I've allowed what is basically a knife maker to have made such an impact on my day to day thoughts. Its quite absurd that 2yrs ago I wouldn't have cared a monkeys - yet I'm actually touched by what's happening.

It makes me incredibly angry with regards to our eastern friends who seemingly flood the markets with counterfeit copies simply because they lack the intrinuity to create their own iconic first. And still be allowed to get away with it
It's simply betrayal that a global brand name can be allowed to disappear after surviving for almost 120yrs.

What a world we live in.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 02, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
PHEASANTS:

There are two Wengers with pheasants on the handle. The first (shown) is a three-blade version with packlock. It's number is 16987. The same knife was sold as the Cumberland (16981) with a hiker on the handle. The Cumberland is part of a Backpacker series, and has that name on the main blade. Don't know of a plain handle version

The second Pheasant (no photo) is a larger eight-blade version (16954). It's blades included: Main blade, small clip blade, saw, scissors, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver; and on the back phillips s.d. and awl. See page 4 of the 1979 Wenger catalog in the wiki. It's plain handled version is 1 18 13.

Added.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti....php?page=Wenger+Pheasant (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pheasant)
http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...Wenger+Pheasant+4+layered (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pheasant+4+layered)

Not sure on the naming of the one layered one. Is the single layered version also called the Pheasant? Are we OK on calling them the 1 and 4 layered Pheasant?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 02, 2013, 12:16:23 AM
Already sent this to Nikola and Carlo, but a fair amount of work so I'll also post it here.  :D

The Wenger SwissMemory series is a set of knives that feature pictures of Swiss scenery. The original group consisted of two lots, three Esquires and three Commanders, each with a shot of a distinct location. The second group consisted of another three Commanders, with the scenes each being a composite photo of four Swiss locations.

Esquire SwissMemory (photo 1)

SwissMemory 950   Bernese Oberland       1.95.00.950
SwissMemory 951   Matterhorn                1.95.00.951
SwissMemory 952   Thunersee                 1.95.00.952 (not shown)

Commander SwissMemory (group 1)(photo 2)

SwissMemory 900   Lake Geneva/Lac Leman          1.94.00.900
SwissMemory 901   Furclasee                              1.94.00901
SwissMemory 902   Santis                                   1.94.00.902

Commander SwissMemory (group 2)(photo 3)

SwissMemory 903   composite of Chillon castle, Geneva fountain, Matterhorn, Luzern bridge                 1.94.00.903

SwissMemory 904   composite of Chillon castle, Matterhorn, Geneva fountain, Bern clock tower  1.94.00.904

SwissMemory 905   composite of Rhine falls, Luzern bridge, alpine meadow, lake steamer            1.94.00.905


Running late as usual but here it finally is. If changes are necessary, let me know.

Forgot the link

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 02, 2013, 02:32:44 AM
Thanks for the reply J-C.
Yes, I bet it was very moving seeing wenger disappearing. To be perfectly honest, I'm actually stunned that I've allowed what is basically a knife maker to have made such an impact on my day to day thoughts. Its quite absurd that 2yrs ago I wouldn't have cared a monkeys - yet I'm actually touched by what's happening.

It makes me incredibly angry with regards to our eastern friends who seemingly flood the markets with counterfeit copies simply because they lack the intrinuity to create their own iconic first. And still be allowed to get away with it
It's simply betrayal that a global brand name can be allowed to disappear after surviving for almost 120yrs.

What a world we live in.

I was already a collector of French knives for a long time, I knew Victorinox, as lots of people, but not Wenger. Ten years ago, while I was working in Switzerland, a colleague made me discover this brand and Wenger has become my favorite brand of Swiss army knives mainly due to the ingenuity of its tools and its length 85mm. So you can imagine how sad I learned the scheduled end of Wenger...

I understand that you're angry against Asian copies, but I think that it is a cultural problem. Having the chance to travel a lot in my youth (I have 52 years), I understood that we needed to know and appreciate peoples in what they know to do at the best. Each people has a specialty and in some parts of Asia, as in China, it's the copy. The copy can sometimes be very good and very well done, it's often the case for electronic products, but unfortunately rarely for knives ! I do not want to apologize for counterfeiting because I condemn this practice, but I think this concept is not really understood by Oriental peoples, as Khadafi has never understood the meaning of the word "democracy" ! LOL.

What a world we live in ? I often ask myself this question, but I have not yet found the answer!   


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sticktodrum on December 02, 2013, 02:54:24 AM
I've ended up getting rid of a chunk of my knife collection for the sake of hoarding Wenger SIs and Soldats. I actually moved over from carrying a Vic Soldier to a Wenger SI with a Vic lanyard fob. It's a bit more special, and my small pile of these knives actually mean a lot to me now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 02, 2013, 05:39:19 AM
Nikola,

The Pheasants, SwissMemories, and Tactiles are looking great!  :cheers: The single layered Pheasant is also called a Pheasant.

Now if someone would just come up with a group shot of the Soft Touches for inclusion with the Tactiles. :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 02, 2013, 10:23:05 AM

Forgot the link

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series

Well done!
------
I would be ready to edit the Basic line section.
What about the Basic 5 and 11 reference?
It would be simplier to just edit them, as I need to use the correct names for the knives linked, like the Entrée and so on.
Eventually we could always edit again the pages, since they are mostly links to other knives
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 02, 2013, 12:57:31 PM

Forgot the link

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series

Well done!
------
I would be ready to edit the Basic line section.
What about the Basic 5 and 11 reference?
It would be simplier to just edit them, as I need to use the correct names for the knives linked, like the Entrée and so on.
Eventually we could always edit again the pages, since they are mostly links to other knives

I would remove them from the index and add under the confirmed model names that they may be known in some areas as the Basic 5/Basic 11 but that informations has yet to be confirmed, so we're covered in both cases. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 02, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
I love this joke :

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts

Could you add photo of this knife ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 02, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
I love this joke :

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts

Could you add photo of this knife ?

:rofl:

I hear it's hard to take a picture of it due to it's magical properties. ;) The author hasn't been online in years and the pictures he uploaded are no longer on that server. If you find one feel free to post it in the latest SAK thread. I don't think it's a Wenger though, more a Victorinox limited edition being 93mm and having a pruner blade. Wonder if you can chose the wand materials too, or if the First Mage chooses you? :think:

:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 02, 2013, 03:32:30 PM
I love this joke :

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts

Could you add photo of this knife ?

Ahaha, I missed that one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 02, 2013, 10:20:31 PM
Well, that's it for me!!

I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month  :facepalm:

BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history  :sak:

 :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 02, 2013, 10:28:49 PM
Well, that's it for me!!

I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month  :facepalm:

BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history  :sak:

 :drink:

And you have photo ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 02, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
Well, that's it for me!!

I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month  :facepalm:

BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history  :sak:

 :drink:

And you have photo ?

Hi J-C


Yeah, photo's will follow when they all arrive.
TBH, without sounding melodramatic I actually feel physically ill having spent so much money over the past few months. It depresses me no end!! :facepalm:
Yet, deep down I'm quietly confident that I've made the right purchases. I've had to do an enormous amount of research to try and work out what "I" think will be good investsments. Still, it doesn't remove the guilt trip when I stop to think what all that money could have been used for.

I'm absolutely determined to curb my spending habits in 2014. And, I actually believe I will.

I'll post pics once everything's arrived.
Don't want to tempt fate and say what's coming, you'll all have to wait and see ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 02, 2013, 11:42:52 PM

Forgot the link

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissMemory+series

Well done!
------
I would be ready to edit the Basic line section.
What about the Basic 5 and 11 reference?
It would be simplier to just edit them, as I need to use the correct names for the knives linked, like the Entrée and so on.
Eventually we could always edit again the pages, since they are mostly links to other knives

I would remove them from the index and add under the confirmed model names that they may be known in some areas as the Basic 5/Basic 11 but that informations has yet to be confirmed, so we're covered in both cases. :salute:

Sounds good to me. :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 03, 2013, 12:17:20 AM
Some better shots of a couple of items from the 1983 catalog.

Lady Executive w/interlock (#16913)

Penn State (style 5 / Viking)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 03, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
...
Hi J-C


Yeah, photo's will follow when they all arrive.
TBH, without sounding melodramatic I actually feel physically ill having spent so much money over the past few months. It depresses me no end!! :facepalm:
Yet, deep down I'm quietly confident that I've made the right purchases. I've had to do an enormous amount of research to try and work out what "I" think will be good investsments. Still, it doesn't remove the guilt trip when I stop to think what all that money could have been used for.

I'm absolutely determined to curb my spending habits in 2014. And, I actually believe I will.

I'll post pics once everything's arrived.
Don't want to tempt fate and say what's coming, you'll all have to wait and see ;)

AhAhAh !

In French we have a proverb: 'Plaie d'argent n'est pas mortelle' it means you will not die after you spent your money !
If you purchased Wengers it will be always good investsments... Even recents knives.
I have 4 or 5 'Coutellerie Suisse' (the name before Wenger & Co) of 100 year old and 1 'Forge de Vallorbe' dated around 1890... Their values grow from 20 to $100 per year, for me it's a good investsment, but I collect knives mostly for fun, not for money.
I suppose my son will sell all my knives when I will die, but it's not important, it will make the happiness of other collectors... So goes life!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 03, 2013, 04:10:28 AM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.






Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on December 03, 2013, 04:19:03 AM
It makes me sad how little the amount of Wengers that make it over here to the US are. I'm not saying they're rare here, but the nearest store to me with them is an hour away.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 03, 2013, 09:56:19 AM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

Nice collection Karl!
I too have the complete set, but didn't know about the additional knife.
Have a look at the pictures in this topic for the coolest Minathor on earth!
http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t78503-couteau-horloger-wenger-minathor-50
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 03, 2013, 10:03:11 AM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

Oh yes, nice collection ! I'm waiting for a "Wood Collection 03" it seems difficult to find...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 03, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
Seems like Wenger has an overstock of yellow RangerGrip scales.... :D
Don't know if it is an old news, but I just found listed some models for, as far as I understand, the Eastern market.
Had a quick look, but they seem just regular version, with the different scales.

Wenger RangerGrip 71.822 Gardener
1.077.071.822
(http://i.imgur.com/VJx9MZl.jpg)

Wenger RangerGrip 73.822 Electrician
1.077.073.822
(http://i.imgur.com/A3JkcBi.jpg)

Wenger RangerGrip 74.822 Handyman Basic
1.077.074.822
(http://i.imgur.com/GvWZlS2.jpg)

Wenger RangerGrip 174.822 Handyman Pro
1.077.174.822
(http://i.imgur.com/UiIueEh.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 03, 2013, 06:04:40 PM
Seems like Wenger has an overstock of yellow RangerGrip scales.... :D
Don't know if it is an old news, but I just found listed some models for, as far as I understand, the Eastern market.
Had a quick look, but they seem just regular version, with the different scales.


The Wenger Gardener is no longer manufactured, even with other scales, I think it's from an old stock...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 03, 2013, 10:52:00 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

Nice collection Karl!
I too have the complete set, but didn't know about the additional knife.
Have a look at the pictures in this topic for the coolest Minathor on earth!
http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t78503-couteau-horloger-wenger-minathor-50

That EKA-handled Minathor is  :drool: Makes these look plebeian.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Watchmaker-Pocket-Knife-CUSTOM-VERSIONS-/160659860657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item256812ecb1

Think I got the Executive Major from a US dealer who specialized in importing Scandinavian knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 03, 2013, 11:03:03 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

Nice collection Karl!
I too have the complete set, but didn't know about the additional knife.
Have a look at the pictures in this topic for the coolest Minathor on earth!
http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/t78503-couteau-horloger-wenger-minathor-50

That EKA-handled Minathor is  :drool: Makes these look plebeian.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Watchmaker-Pocket-Knife-CUSTOM-VERSIONS-/160659860657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item256812ecb1

Think I got the Executive Major from a US dealer who specialized in importing Scandinavian knives.
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 03, 2013, 11:11:51 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)

Done. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 03, 2013, 11:21:58 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)

Done. :salute:

Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits.  I like to have the series pages look a little different.  Not sure about included the knife from a different series.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 03, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)

Done. :salute:

Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits.  I like to have the series pages look a little different.  Not sure about included the knife from a different series.

No problem with changes. As for the other knife it's a Wenger/EKA combination, so probably fits better here than anywhere else.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 03, 2013, 11:33:44 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)

Done. :salute:

Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits.  I like to have the series pages look a little different.  Not sure about included the knife from a different series.


Stomped? :think: Stomped what changes? There was just an empty page with this.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3173)


Please leave it as is until we have a discussion on the edits.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 03, 2013, 11:38:51 PM
Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 03, 2013, 11:57:03 PM
(For the Wood Collection under the Wenger series in SAKwiki)


The Wood Collection is one of Wenger's premium Star lines, and was produced in conjunction with the Swedish cutler EKA. Each company offered three knifes, which had similar curved bubinga wood handles made by EKA, and which were marketed jointly. The three Wenger versions are shown below. The EKA versions are shown in the Wenger 1992 (?) French catalog in the SAKwiki (pp 58-59).

The Wengers are:

Wood Collection 01 (Esquire) - 1 78 01
Wood Collection 02 (Commander) - 1 78 02
Wood Collection 03 (Traveler) - 1 78 03

In addition to the three Wood Collection Wengers, Wenger and EKA collaborated on another wood handled knife based on the Traveler. This is the Executive Major (EM-1), and features a more conventional straight wood handle without brass screws. It is shown on the right in photos 2 & 3.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+and+EKA+-+Wood+Collection)

Done. :salute:

Looks good, but you stomped on my change, so expect a few edits.  I like to have the series pages look a little different.  Not sure about included the knife from a different series.


Stomped? :think: Stomped what changes? There was just an empty page with this.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3173)


Please leave it as is until we have a discussion on the edits.

You must have been editing while the change was made, view the history.  Your version of the page is still in the page history so it can always be restored. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 04, 2013, 12:02:04 AM
Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?

I think we'd need to find a new image of it since that one is watermarked.  Also it looks like it is  not really part of the Wood Collection (but it could be because of the handle design), it could be another EKA collaboration.   The page could certainly contain a reference to it like the EM-1.

It is one fantastic knife.  Have to be a Top Wenger model for sure.  The Minathor is already at the top in my books.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 04, 2013, 12:16:14 AM
I think we need a group PM on how we're going to be doing these edits. PM on the way. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2013, 02:35:44 AM
(Another batch for the Wenger Series in the wiki)

The Europa or Europe series is one of Wenger's Star line of premium knives. The set consists of four knives with blue handles which are decorated with a circle of twelve gold stars, representing the countries of the European Union. Three of the handles are plastic, and one is anodized aluminum.

The different knives don't have names, but are designated only by their numbers.

1 92 15 - Esquire with blue plastic handles

1 92 13 - Commander with blue plastic handles

1 92 14 - Traveler with blue plastic handle and short key chain

1 92 16 - Traveler with blue alox handles

In addition to the Wenger Europas, Victorinox produced at least two European Union knives, shown in photo 3.  They are a Spartan and a Huntsman. Their numbers are not currently known.

(Not sure the last part should go in the Wenger section, but threw it in for general info)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 04, 2013, 05:55:01 AM
Here's a photo of the Wenger Nature Series. It's listed in the wiki under 'Others - VIP'. 75mm long. Might want to add it to the Wenger sets; definitely need a photo. One source I have says stainless steel handles; the other says pewter. Not sure if they're cast or stamped. Anyone else have any info?

1.83.49 Wenger AN: Metal scales, straight ribbing.
1.83.50 Wenger AN: Nature Series; Metal scales, straight ribbing with Snow Leopard on bottom scale.
1.83.51 Wenger AN: Nature Series; Metal scales, straight ribbing with Eurasian Otter on bottom scale.
1.83.52 Wenger AN: Nature Series; Metal scales, straight ribbing with Polar Bear on bottom scale.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 04, 2013, 10:08:20 AM
Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?

I think we'd need to find a new image of it since that one is watermarked.  Also it looks like it is  not really part of the Wood Collection (but it could be because of the handle design), it could be another EKA collaboration.   The page could certainly contain a reference to it like the EM-1.

It is one fantastic knife.  Have to be a Top Wenger model for sure.  The Minathor is already at the top in my books.
I can't find it now, but I first saw this knife for sale on ebay.de few months ago.
So I started researching and found the topic I linked.
Here is an additional one
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f425/fs-blancpain-bergeon-wenger-watchmakers-swiss-knife-multitoo-loupe-wood-case-839788.html
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Nice pictures Karl!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 04, 2013, 11:48:31 AM
Any way we can add that EKA-handled Minathor to the page?

I think we'd need to find a new image of it since that one is watermarked.  Also it looks like it is  not really part of the Wood Collection (but it could be because of the handle design), it could be another EKA collaboration.   The page could certainly contain a reference to it like the EM-1.

It is one fantastic knife.  Have to be a Top Wenger model for sure.  The Minathor is already at the top in my books.
I can't find it now, but I first saw this knife for sale on ebay.de few months ago.
So I started researching and found the topic I linked.
Here is an additional one
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f425/fs-blancpain-bergeon-wenger-watchmakers-swiss-knife-multitoo-loupe-wood-case-839788.html
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Nice pictures Karl!

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 04, 2013, 12:42:00 PM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 04, 2013, 01:56:56 PM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 04, 2013, 02:00:29 PM
I love this joke :

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts

Could you add photo of this knife ?

:rofl:

I hear it's hard to take a picture of it due to it's magical properties. ;) The author hasn't been online in years and the pictures he uploaded are no longer on that server. If you find one feel free to post it in the latest SAK thread. I don't think it's a Wenger though, more a Victorinox limited edition being 93mm and having a pruner blade. Wonder if you can chose the wand materials too, or if the First Mage chooses you? :think:

:D

I found a photo but it's one of possible magical configuration !

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/Joke.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 04, 2013, 06:32:36 PM
I love this joke :

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=First+Mage+Hogwarts

Could you add photo of this knife ?

:rofl:

I hear it's hard to take a picture of it due to it's magical properties. ;) The author hasn't been online in years and the pictures he uploaded are no longer on that server. If you find one feel free to post it in the latest SAK thread. I don't think it's a Wenger though, more a Victorinox limited edition being 93mm and having a pruner blade. Wonder if you can chose the wand materials too, or if the First Mage chooses you? :think:

:D

I found a photo but it's one of possible magical configuration !

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/Joke.jpg)
That would look good next to the Vic with hair-comb.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 04, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
(Another batch for the Wenger Series in the wiki)

The Europa or Europe series is one of Wenger's Star line of premium knives. The set consists of four knives with blue handles which are decorated with a circle of twelve gold stars, representing the countries of the European Union. Three of the handles are plastic, and one is anodized aluminum.

The different knives don't have names, but are designated only by their numbers.

1 92 15 - Esquire with blue plastic handles

1 92 13 - Commander with blue plastic handles

1 92 14 - Traveler with blue plastic handle and short key chain

1 92 16 - Traveler with blue alox handles

In addition to the Wenger Europas, Victorinox produced at least two European Union knives, shown in photo 3.  They are a Spartan and a Huntsman. Their numbers are not currently known.

(Not sure the last part should go in the Wenger section, but threw it in for general info)



Very nice Europe and Nature series. :cheers: I'll add both of those to my Wiki To Do list

BTW if anyone is after the Europe Commander one, I see one on eBay.de, new with box, papers and worldwide shipping. :whistle:  Some bidding but bad naming so it might go low.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 05, 2013, 01:09:04 AM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I found that auction  right after you mentioned it was an ebay item.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I would have bid  a lot more for it.

I was mistaking about the water marks those were on the regular Minathor images (Oasis I think) that I saw when I followed your original like and then some further link.  Someone might be able to contact the ebay seller of that knife and as if we can use those pictures. 

The nice thing is I have a new Special Wenger to watch for, I might die before I find it, but it's good to have something to look for.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 05, 2013, 04:13:29 AM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I found that auction  right after you mentioned it was an ebay item.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I would have bid  a lot more for it.

I was mistaking about the water marks those were on the regular Minathor images (Oasis I think) that I saw when I followed your original like and then some further link.  Someone might be able to contact the ebay seller of that knife and as if we can use those pictures. 

The nice thing is I have a new Special Wenger to watch for, I might die before I find it, but it's good to have something to look for.

It seems the seller is German and I don't speak German...

If you are looking for these kinds of Wenger, see : http://www.fr.ricardo.ch/acheter/collections-et-raretes/agriculture/petits-appareils/sackmesser/v/an724160188/
(http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_724160188_Big/agriculture/sackmesser.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 05, 2013, 09:07:31 AM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

Yes it is ! In fact I wanted to bid 150€ 30 second before the end, but my PC rebooted at this moment because of a Microsoft update ! I was bummed!
I found that auction  right after you mentioned it was an ebay item.  I'm sorry I missed it.  I would have bid  a lot more for it.

I was mistaking about the water marks those were on the regular Minathor images (Oasis I think) that I saw when I followed your original like and then some further link.  Someone might be able to contact the ebay seller of that knife and as if we can use those pictures. 

The nice thing is I have a new Special Wenger to watch for, I might die before I find it, but it's good to have something to look for.
ATTENTION!
I just realized it now.
The above ebay auction was for a Blancpain Minathor with standard Evowood scales, not the EKA version.
This is probably why I didn't bid, because after researching I found images of the EKA version.
So there were at least two versions of the BlancPain Minathor:
1) EvoWood;
2) EKA.
So, Francis and Jean Claude, I wouldn't be too sorry about missing the auction.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 05, 2013, 04:24:54 PM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 05, 2013, 06:23:54 PM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)

That's one of my favorite pictures of the set so far. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 05, 2013, 07:27:57 PM

Thank you :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 05, 2013, 08:26:56 PM
Well, that's it for me!!

I made my last Wenger purchase 10 mins ago - now just need to work out how the hell I'm gonna pay the bill when it pops through the letterbox next month  :facepalm:

BUT... I'll take comfort knowing I own a serious slice of Swiss history  :sak:

 :drink:



ahh.  :ahhh :ahhh  :facepalm:

Just received the email stating my order is no longer available :cry:

Who knows, maybe one day online retailers will update their stock levels  :whistle:

And, to make matters worse, out of the total number of items I'd ordered, it just had to be the one item that drew me to their site in the first instance.

Yeah, I'm too beginning to think this selling strategy is done on purpose :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 06, 2013, 12:22:17 AM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)

I Love it Too!!    :drool:  I think they did a fantasic job on this set, I'm very impressed.  I also think it's a very fair price, I'm impressed also that they kept the price as low as they did for this special set.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 06, 2013, 06:14:02 AM
(For the Wenger Left-Handed Set, also EVO14)

A more recent addition to the Wenger Left-Handed series:

EVO 14 Left-Handed , # 1.14.109.300


--------------------------------------------

Great looking shot of the United Woods set!  :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 06, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)

I Love it Too!!    :drool:  I think they did a fantasic job on this set, I'm very impressed.  I also think it's a very fair price, I'm impressed also that they kept the price as low as they did for this special set.
Hi   :salute:
I agree, i just had to buy this set, it is the most incredible SAKs i have seen :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 06, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)

I Love it Too!!    :drool:  I think they did a fantasic job on this set, I'm very impressed.  I also think it's a very fair price, I'm impressed also that they kept the price as low as they did for this special set.
Hi   :salute:
I agree, i just had to buy this set, it is the most incredible SAKs i have seen :ahhh

Nice purchase, congratulations North Man!
I don't see how Wenger could charge more for the set.
It may be "fair" considering the number of knives included, but the price is not really "cheap".
I think there is a price point after which collectors simply would not buy, no matter how many knives are included.




ahh.  :ahhh :ahhh  :facepalm:

Just received the email stating my order is no longer available :cry:

Who knows, maybe one day online retailers will update their stock levels  :whistle:

And, to make matters worse, out of the total number of items I'd ordered, it just had to be the one item that drew me to their site in the first instance.

Yeah, I'm too beginning to think this selling strategy is done on purpose :think:

Perhaps I could help, but will need to know which model you were looking for.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 06, 2013, 02:25:23 PM
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment  :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images +  seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 06, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment  :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images +  seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.

Thank you :tu:
Nice find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 06, 2013, 05:11:35 PM
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment  :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images +  seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.

Oh Yes ! Very good deal !!! It was on Ebay ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 06, 2013, 06:23:41 PM
Thanks, yes it was ebay.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 06, 2013, 09:18:11 PM
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment  :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images +  seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.

Great score!  Never even seen one of those offered for sale.  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 07, 2013, 04:43:29 AM
A couple of pieces of Wenger clean-up data:

Under the Skier, the version without the metal file has a number of 1.34.03. Names I have for it include: Mountain/Ski, Mountain, and Skiloper (from the 1980s Norwegian catalog).

Under Survivor, there's a version that has a small nailfile in place of the small clip blade. It has a number of 1.68.02.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 07, 2013, 05:48:04 AM
Wenger Angler - 3 layer

1.03.05

With large blade, hook sharpener, scissors, short key chain.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 07, 2013, 05:53:09 AM
Wenger Angler - 4 layers

1.44.03

top side - large blade, can opener, scaler, hook sharpener, nail file, screw driver/bottle opener.

bottom side - phillips screwdriver, reamer, short key chain.

Versions with and w/o fishing fly on handle.

In some markets sold as 'Pecheur'.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 07, 2013, 11:51:22 AM
Best 2013 deal for me.....€28,10 + shipment  :D
Ok shipping was €17, but still pretty cheap.
Only the micro tools show minimal wear.
It was basically a combination of: bad wording/description + bad images +  seller didn't know what he had.
Sometimes you get lucky, but unfortunately it happens only few times a year.
That's a very fine catch.  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 08, 2013, 02:55:09 AM
Another set that needs a listing in the Wenger sets is the Porsches. However it deserves better photos that I can take. Do we have some already, or can some one provide them?  :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 08, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
Traveler stainless steel variations:

Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2013, 12:23:16 AM
Traveler stainless steel variations:

Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400

the second is for the 200 th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (swiss)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 12:34:07 AM
Traveler stainless steel variations:

Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400

the second is for the 200 th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (swiss)

Actually 700th anniversary, in 1991. Its labeled 'Anniversary' in a catalog page I have copied. Unfortunately it doesn't list a model number. One of a half-dozen knives Wenger did for that occasion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2013, 12:59:33 AM
Traveler stainless steel variations:

Metal 50 - 1.92.50
Anniversary - ?
Swiss Millenium (with gold inlays) - 153400

the second is for the 200 th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (swiss)

Actually 700th anniversary, in 1991. Its labeled 'Anniversary' in a catalog page I have copied. Unfortunately it doesn't list a model number. One of a half-dozen knives Wenger did for that occasion.

Sorry it's the 700th anniversary of the Helvetic Confederation (Rütli oath) and not 200th  :oops:

see Wikipedia :

...After the establishment of the federal state, the Rütli oath became associated with the Swiss Federal Charter, a document dated to 1291...

...Switzerland comprises four main linguistic and cultural regions: German, French, Italian and the Romansh-speaking valleys. Therefore the Swiss, although predominantly German-speaking, do not form a nation in the sense of a common ethnic or linguistic identity; rather, the strong sense of identity and community is founded on a common historical background, shared values such as federalism and direct democracy,[12] and Alpine symbolism.[13] The establishment of the Swiss Confederation is traditionally dated to 1 August 1291, which is celebrated annually as Swiss National Day...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 01:02:34 AM
An assortment of Wenger knives done for the 700th anniversary.

No problem on the date  :cheers:


The gold-trimmed version with William Tell is the 'Jubilee'

Down loaded the following info, but no other photos:

"The Regency, Royale, Imperiale, and Jubilee are 24 kt gold plated with special imprints."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2013, 01:54:16 AM
An assortment of Wenger knives done for the 700th anniversary.

No problem on the date  :cheers:


The gold-trimmed version with William Tell is the 'Jubilee'

Down loaded the following info, but no other photos:

"The Regency, Royale, Imperiale, and Jubilee are 24 kt gold plated with special imprints."

And I have this one : 100th Anniversary of Wenger (1993) !
you can get the photo if you want !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/travel15.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 04:17:11 AM
An assortment of Wenger knives done for the 700th anniversary.

No problem on the date  :cheers:


The gold-trimmed version with William Tell is the 'Jubilee'

Down loaded the following info, but no other photos:

"The Regency, Royale, Imperiale, and Jubilee are 24 kt gold plated with special imprints."

And I have this one : 100th Anniversary of Wenger (1993) !
you can get the photo if you want !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/travel15.jpg)

Interesting!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 09, 2013, 09:49:46 AM
A couple of pieces of Wenger clean-up data:

Under the Skier, the version without the metal file has a number of 1.34.03. Names I have for it include: Mountain/Ski, Mountain, and Skiloper (from the 1980s Norwegian catalog).

Under Survivor, there's a version that has a small nailfile in place of the small clip blade. It has a number of 1.68.02.

Karl,
there are more differences for the Survivor.
Model 1.68.02 has nail file (as you said), but also plain, no locking, main blade, metal file instead of the wood saw, no key ring.
Also model 1.92.73 is very similar to 1.68.02, but has long keychain and replaces the carabiner clip with the universal wrench.
I was planning to add those two to the Survivor page, but I think I'm still at letter "M" or so on the list.
Here are a couple of pictures I took for my EDCsource listings
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 09:14:12 PM
A couple of pieces of Wenger clean-up data:

Under the Skier, the version without the metal file has a number of 1.34.03. Names I have for it include: Mountain/Ski, Mountain, and Skiloper (from the 1980s Norwegian catalog).

Under Survivor, there's a version that has a small nailfile in place of the small clip blade. It has a number of 1.68.02.

Karl,
there are more differences for the Survivor.
Model 1.68.02 has nail file (as you said), but also plain, no locking, main blade, metal file instead of the wood saw, no key ring.
Also model 1.92.73 is very similar to 1.68.02, but has long keychain and replaces the carabiner clip with the universal wrench.
I was planning to add those two to the Survivor page, but I think I'm still at letter "M" or so on the list.
Here are a couple of pictures I took for my EDCsource listings

The Survivors are a real mess.  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Here are some special editions/ special dealer runs/ oddballs.
--------------------------------------------------------

Wenger Special Edition (actual name)- # 156.34.567

Limited to 500 pieces, numbered *** / 500 on main blade.

Stainless steel handles with inlaid black caribou leather.

Top blades : Main blade with packlock, nail file, scissors, pliers, magnifying glass, saw, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver.

Bottom blades : corkscrew, awl.

With toothpick and tweezers; no key ring.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 10:57:22 PM
Maybe put this with the 'Highlander with Choke Tube Tool'.

----------------------------

Cabela's with Choke Tube Tool (actual name and model number unknown).

A special model for Cabela's. It basically adds a pliers to the standard Highlander with Choke Tube Tool. It also differs from that model in having bright polished rather than matte blades; and solid green handles with Cabela's name on them, rather than camouflage handles.

Top blades : Main blade, small clip blade, choke tube tool, pliers, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver.

Bottom blades : Phillips screwdriver, awl.

No toothpick or tweezers; no key ring.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
Skitour. No information is known about this model other that the name on the handle. It may have been a special run for an outdoors outfitter or ski club. Does have a very useful combination of tools.

Top blades : Main blade, nail file, universal wrench, short phillips screwdriver, pliers, can opener, bottle opener/screwdriver.

Bottom blades : Corkscrew, awl.

Has toothpick and tweezers; no key ring.






Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 09, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
Alpine Club Switzerland is a Swiss maker and retailer of outdoor clothing and equipment. It is not to be confused with the Swiss Alpine Club (SAC-CAS), which is a Swiss mountaineering club that operates a series of mountain huts.

This knife is a special model done for Alpine Club Switzerland, and has a unique set of tools. The knife has black Evo handles that feature the company logo. The company web site did not list any special name for this model. Its catalog number is #116109302BTS.

Top blades: Main clip blade (similar to SwissBucks), nail file, scissors, saw, swing-out compass w/ruler, snap shackle, short phillips screw driver, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver.

Bottom blades :Corkscrew, awl.

Has toothpick and tweezers, key ring.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 10, 2013, 09:34:40 AM
Very nice knives that I've never seen before you have there Karl!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 11, 2013, 12:37:38 AM
Very nice knives that I've never seen before you have there Karl!

You regularly come up with stuff I've never seen. Just trying to keep up.  :D   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 11, 2013, 08:56:05 PM
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)


Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 11, 2013, 09:53:50 PM
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)


Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).

The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 11, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
http://forum.multitool.or...attach;attach=58597;image (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)


Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).

The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)

Yes, I know what they are. :D

The Ranger is the RangerWood 161 and the 85mm is an SAC Evowood Cyclist. I'm searching for the numbers/identifiers these go by. ;)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...?page=Cyclist#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Cyclist#Identifiers)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 11, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
I have both the SAC EvoWoods. Pretty sure they're exclusive to SAC, but have no info on numbers. Thought I'd saved a printout for the files, but can't find it.
http://forum.multitool.or...attach;attach=58597;image (http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=58597;image)


Sorry to dig this one up but I was just checking the wiki for the SAC Evowood Cyclist and notised it isn't referenced there at all. Could someone who has one provide the model number/identifier for it so we can add it to the variations? Thanks. :cheers:
These are special edition for the Swiss Alpine Club (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en.html).

The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)

Yes, I know what they are. :D

The Ranger is the RangerWood 161 and the 85mm is an SAC Evowood Cyclist. I'm searching for the numbers/identifiers these go by. ;)

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...?page=Cyclist#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Cyclist#Identifiers)
I don't know how Wenger handels this, but these two models you can only order from the SAC.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 11, 2013, 11:48:02 PM
Dig some more digging:

RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830

EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 12, 2013, 12:21:54 AM
Dig some more digging:

RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830

EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830

Thanks, added. :salute:

The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:

AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on December 12, 2013, 12:54:27 AM
Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D

Those Wengers I got have instilled some appreciation into me. They are not as I remembered them. I might even get me a user. Hmm. :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 12, 2013, 10:19:18 AM
Dig some more digging:

RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830

EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830

Thanks, added. :salute:

The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:

AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)

Yes,
I checked again, just to be sure, and the identifiers of the Ranger 161 do match (see attachment).
Karl have a look at the label of your Cyclist.
Does it say 1.035.009.830
or
1.035.009.830.P1.CAS?
I just saw this reference looking at the Weber's World page (see link below)


The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)

You can buy the Ranger 161.P1.CAS (see the wiki for the differences) and the special Cyclist also here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D


Let us know if you find more information.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on December 12, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
Went by the shop, still no info on Tactile 812 with corkscrew. The man said he should know by next Monday or Tuesday. I think he was being honest. Let's hope for the best.

 

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 12, 2013, 10:18:08 PM
Dig some more digging:

RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830

EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830

Thanks, added. :salute:

The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:

AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)

Yes,
I checked again, just to be sure, and the identifiers of the Ranger 161 do match (see attachment).
Karl have a look at the label of your Cyclist.
Does it say 1.035.009.830
or
1.035.009.830.P1.CAS?
I just saw this reference looking at the Weber's World page (see link below)


The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)

You can buy the Ranger 161.P1.CAS (see the wiki for the differences) and the special Cyclist also here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D


Let us know if you find more information.

The box is buried away some place. I'm going by the data in my spreadsheet. If you have other info, use it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 12, 2013, 10:22:12 PM
Dig some more digging:

RangerWood 161 Swiss Alpine Club 150th Anniversary - 1.077.161.830

EvoWood 35 Swiss Alpine Club - 1.035.009.830

Thanks, added. :salute:

The numbers Carlo provided for the 161 are:

AF.1.077.161.830.C (RangerWood 161)
AF.1.077.161.830.P1.CAS (RangerWood 161.P1.CAS) without blade etching.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...angerWood+161#Identifiers (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+RangerWood+161#Identifiers)

Yes,
I checked again, just to be sure, and the identifiers of the Ranger 161 do match (see attachment).
Karl have a look at the label of your Cyclist.
Does it say 1.035.009.830
or
1.035.009.830.P1.CAS?
I just saw this reference looking at the Weber's World page (see link below)


The shop unfortunately is only in German:
Ranger (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL3Jhbmdlci1tZXNzZXItbWl0LXNhYy1sb2dvLmh0bWw%3D)
And the small one (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D), sorry I have no clue about Wenger models ;)

You can buy the Ranger 161.P1.CAS (see the wiki for the differences) and the special Cyclist also here
http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p531_RangerWood-161-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

http://www.webers-world.com/product_info.php?info=p530_EvoWood-35-SAC.html&XTCsid=mormn2a27b6hf2issb2pc141n6

Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D


Let us know if you find more information.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 12, 2013, 10:56:48 PM

WOW, the right picture just at the right time  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 13, 2013, 08:31:53 AM

WOW, the right picture just at the right time  :)
Coincidence? I think not... Was in Delemont yesterday :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on December 13, 2013, 03:36:54 PM
Lovely knives shown  :tu:

Two knives: EvoWood 14 Walnut and Africa Evolution 14 wih Thuya

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89697;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 13, 2013, 04:03:29 PM

Lovely knives shown  :tu:

Two knives: EvoWood 14 Walnut and Africa Evolution 14 wih Thuya

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89697;image)
Love the look of that Thuya. I think I said it before but the Ranger 55 with those scales would have been awesome. :dd:



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 13, 2013, 04:04:22 PM

WOW, the right picture just at the right time  :)
Coincidence? I think not... Was in Delemont yesterday :D

Thank you very much for the clarification, and a nice pic too. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on December 13, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
Just picked these up for $22 shipped.  They look to be in great shape:


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Wenger-Swiss-Army-Knife-Combo-Stainless-Steel-TC3-symbol-on-scale-UBS-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/plAAAOxyNo9So7GE/$_57.JPG?rt=nc)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on December 13, 2013, 05:13:07 PM
Alox?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HUSKY-WENGER-DELEMONT-SWITZERLAND-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-GENTLY-USED-CONDITION-/00/s/NzY0WDE2MDA=/z/klAAAMXQlgtSqLSi/$_57.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HUSKY-WENGER-DELEMONT-SWITZERLAND-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-GENTLY-USED-CONDITION-/00/s/NzEwWDE2MDA=/z/WB0AAMXQVT9SqLR2/$_57.JPG?rt=nc)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 13, 2013, 05:18:44 PM
Seems like Wenger has an overstock of yellow RangerGrip scales.... :D
Don't know if it is an old news, but I just found listed some models for, as far as I understand, the Eastern market.
Had a quick look, but they seem just regular version, with the different scales.

Wenger RangerGrip 71.822 Gardener
1.077.071.822
(http://i.imgur.com/VJx9MZl.jpg)

The Wenger Gardener is no longer manufactured, even with other scales, I think it's from an old stock...

Since I didn't have any new Ranger with the folding scissors, I went ahead and bought one of these Ranger 71.822 from the Czech Republic.
Well, it is for science, isn't it? :D
The shop had the great idea to put their paper label over the Wenger one, so it took me almost an hour to try to remove it and check the identifiers.  :twak:
I can tell you that the name and catalog number are correct (so probably also the other RangerGrip knives I listed in my above message have correct names/identifiers).
The label shows a production date of 04/2013.
Will post pictures of the knife tomorrow, with daylight.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 13, 2013, 05:19:50 PM
Lovely knives shown  :tu:

Two knives: EvoWood 14 Walnut and Africa Evolution 14 wih Thuya


Beautiful picture NorthMan!
Also, nice knives papercut
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 14, 2013, 12:32:10 PM
Here are few shots of the RangerGrip 71.
Nothing really special about it, as it is just a Ranger 71 with Evogrip scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 14, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
Here are few shots of the RangerGrip 71.
Nothing really special about it, as it is just a Ranger 71 with Evogrip scales.

How do you like the shears on it? I've been thinking of getting one of those for the same reason. Don't have any Rangers with shears. :D

I'm much more drawn to this one. Not a big fan of yellow.

http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=3827
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 16, 2013, 10:35:25 AM
Here are few shots of the RangerGrip 71.
Nothing really special about it, as it is just a Ranger 71 with Evogrip scales.

How do you like the shears on it? I've been thinking of getting one of those for the same reason. Don't have any Rangers with shears. :D

I'm much more drawn to this one. Not a big fan of yellow.

http://www.swissmade.com/en/web/index.php?id=3827

I actually didn't have the opportunity to try them, but if you loved the folding pliers idea, the shears are pretty much the same.
I just wished that the main blade was an one hand opening type, as I prefer it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 16, 2013, 12:39:55 PM
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !

Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on December 16, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !

Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)
I like that green colour very much. The tool load is very cool. A nice initiative you guys took :tu: (I think I've posted exactly the same thing before ? Maybe I should have got one too ?  :ahhh  :D  :cheers: )
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 16, 2013, 01:49:53 PM
... Maybe I should have got one too ?  :ahhh  :D  :cheers:

It's too late !!! All were sold in only 2 weeks and before manufacturing... Perhaps you will find one on ebay later if somebody needs money...

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on December 16, 2013, 01:55:21 PM
... Maybe I should have got one too ?  :ahhh  :D  :cheers:

It's too late !!! All were sold in only 2 weeks and before manufacturing... Perhaps you will find one on ebay later if somebody needs money...

Oh, I know they're gone. I was just teasing myself ::) Good looking knife, honestly.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on December 16, 2013, 03:05:38 PM
8 views of 2 different Soldat boxes:

(http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n450/papercut54321/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0930.jpg) (http://s339.photobucket.com/user/papercut54321/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0930.jpg.html)

these are the international boxes I believe.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 17, 2013, 02:11:11 PM
I finally received today the "Canoe".
The imprint is hot stamped and looks definately made by Wenger.
The knife configuration is a "locking Monarch" or "cellidor Lancelot" if you prefer.
We should really try to find some informations about the Monarch with locking balde, as I saw plenty of them for sale.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 17, 2013, 08:40:26 PM
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.

Nice find though. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 18, 2013, 02:49:07 AM
Sweet!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 18, 2013, 04:47:40 AM
Was working on the SAK Boy Scout knives and came across an odd Wenger variation that I don't have a name for. Basically its a early Evo S111 with classic (flat) grips. Alternately its a Canyon with lock, or a World Scout/Day Hiker with a small clip blade instead of the nail file. It was done for the U.S. Boy Scouts. Wenger did a series for them from 1982 to 2000. However the numbers are totally different from Wenger's normal numbers and I've never been able to definitively figure out what is what.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: burnside on December 18, 2013, 06:13:25 AM
That BSA is nice!  :tu:

I've got my eye on a few Wenger SAKs now. Won't be long before I pull the trigger on my first. I've never actually owned a wenger in all my years of owning various Voctorinox SAKs ever since the late 70s. I really like idea of getting an 84mm model like their Traveler.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sticktodrum on December 18, 2013, 06:26:56 AM
That BSA is nice!  :tu:

I've got my eye on a few Wenger SAKs now. Won't be long before I pull the trigger on my first. I've never actually owned a wenger in all my years of owning various Voctorinox SAKs ever since the late 70s. I really like idea of getting an 84mm model like their Traveler.

Didn't I buy SI's off of you? O.o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 18, 2013, 09:06:38 AM
I love also old Wengers !

Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...

And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505".  I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.

Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)

Beautifull isn't it ?
Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:

Next time I will show you a Wenger Tahara 1920's with cross shield (red and yellow-white) on scales and the 3 faces stamp on blade when its restoration will be finished !

As promised, probably a "model 509 +" if I compare with photos from 1910's catalog...

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger26.jpg)

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger27.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on December 18, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.

Nice find though. :D

Fill the bite marks with clear epoxy, wait overnight for it to set hard, then flatten with wet and dry, finally polish smooth, and you'll hardly see the marks. I do this all the time with chips on knives I find and rejuvenate.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 18, 2013, 03:05:58 PM
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.

Nice find though. :D

Fill the bite marks with clear epoxy, wait overnight for it to set hard, then flatten with wet and dry, finally polish smooth, and you'll hardly see the marks. I do this all the time with chips on knives I find and rejuvenate.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try to see if I'll be able to fix the marks.
The above "Canoe" is a classic example of a "must buy", in any given condition.
However, I'm quite happy as the knife seems used very little, and all the tools are almost in mint condition.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on December 18, 2013, 04:42:48 PM
Poor Canoe. :cry: Looks like someone took a bite at it.

Nice find though. :D

Fill the bite marks with clear epoxy, wait overnight for it to set hard, then flatten with wet and dry, finally polish smooth, and you'll hardly see the marks. I do this all the time with chips on knives I find and rejuvenate.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try to see if I'll be able to fix the marks.
The above "Canoe" is a classic example of a "must buy", in any given condition.
However, I'm quite happy as the knife seems used very little, and all the tools are almost in mint condition.

I always use lots of water with the wet and dry paper. Water really helps the removed material "disappear" rather than get ground back in to the scale surface.
With care, a mirror polish can be achieved.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 19, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
I think I found the reason about the Basic line we had been discussing.
http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/html/wenger.html
Have a look at the document in the middle of the page titled "Older Wenger Flyer"
(http://i.imgur.com/i6c4N7B.jpg)
I never saw the catalog numbers used there.
After a bit of searching I found this australian website
http://www.eliteofficesupplies.com.au/catalog2004/
with matching numbers.
My guess is that the Flyer above was used years back for the wiki.
That's the reason why either myself nor Karl could find any reference to those names.
Note also that the Classic line does not match with the Wenger's catalogs.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 19, 2013, 11:41:19 PM
Interesting find!  :tu:

I once came across an Australia ad for some Vics. Every name was different. For instance an economy Camper was a Picknicker. Guess that's how advertising people justify their pay.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 19, 2013, 11:43:51 PM
I love also old Wengers !

Before 1908, Wenger company name was "Coutellerie Suisse" with a 3 faces stamp on the tang of the blade...

And I found one (Carbon steel blades)...
On the 1908 "Wenger & Co" catalog this is a "model 505".  I guess it dates between 1895 (new 3 faces stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse") and 1919 (begining of stainless steel).
It seems that Wenger has used this stamp on few knives until 1942.

Before restoration :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/CoutSuisse2.jpg)

After a very important restoration :
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel13.jpg)
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/coutel15.jpg)

Beautifull isn't it ?
Its a beauty for sure, love the tang stamp Wenger used during this period :tu:

Next time I will show you a Wenger Tahara 1920's with cross shield (red and yellow-white) on scales and the 3 faces stamp on blade when its restoration will be finished !

As promised, probably a "model 509 +" if I compare with photos from 1910's catalog...

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger26.jpg)

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger27.jpg)

Some interesting old knives! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 20, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
I think I found the reason about the Basic line we had been discussing.
http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/html/wenger.html
Have a look at the document in the middle of the page titled "Older Wenger Flyer"
(http://i.imgur.com/i6c4N7B.jpg)
I never saw the catalog numbers used there.
After a bit of searching I found this australian website
http://www.eliteofficesupplies.com.au/catalog2004/
with matching numbers.
My guess is that the Flyer above was used years back for the wiki.
That's the reason why either myself nor Karl could find any reference to those names.
Note also that the Classic line does not match with the Wenger's catalogs.


So I was correct in the assumption that the name came from counting the tools on the SAKs. Anyone know where James got that flyer from, Australia maybe? Never seen such numbers before. Possibly the AU distributor used their own names and numbers. :shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 20, 2013, 11:35:07 AM

So I was correct in the assumption that the name came from counting the tools on the SAKs. Anyone know where James got that flyer from, Australia maybe? Never seen such numbers before. Possibly the AU distributor used their own names and numbers. :shrug:

Yes Nikola, you were very correct.
Since it seems these names and catalog numbers were used only for a specific market, I don't see the reason to edit the wiki, as I already kept the odd Basic names in the knives descriptions.
Not sure about the Classic line.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 20, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Lucky to find a NIB Teton recently retail for an old price. I like this SAK configuration and this Wenger's variant is almost perfection:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on December 20, 2013, 09:04:56 PM
Couple more of the same Teton. What a nice little SAK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on December 21, 2013, 04:25:02 PM
Any model name on this? Is this from the 50's or 60's? A Wenger Delmont that snaps like a 91mm Victorinox.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg.html)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 21, 2013, 05:36:27 PM
Any model name on this? Is this from the 50's or 60's? A Wenger Delmont that snaps like a 91mm Victorinox.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger001_zps130f21f2.jpg.html)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/wenger002_zps94b12c02.jpg.html)

I suppose it's a model 712...

see : http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=98
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Spatha on December 22, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
Snagged myself a Blackout 63.  To my mind this series is much more attractive than the Victorinox black ice range.  I love the stealth toothpick.   8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on December 23, 2013, 10:49:08 PM
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HrD63GZXls/UrcGL3n1T3I/AAAAAAAAI8w/ebuv-IzxaVs/s800/DSCN6511_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 24, 2013, 12:01:01 AM
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HrD63GZXls/UrcGL3n1T3I/AAAAAAAAI8w/ebuv-IzxaVs/s800/DSCN6511_r.jpg)

I don't have any info on it, so its obviously a fake. You can send it to me for proper disposal.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 24, 2013, 02:25:33 AM
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3HrD63GZXls/UrcGL3n1T3I/AAAAAAAAI8w/ebuv-IzxaVs/s800/DSCN6511_r.jpg)

I'm sorry, I have no information on this knife but I think it's an old one (1916's to 1919's?) because of the bail and the stamp...

I have 2 knives very similar with carbon steel blades and Tenite handle, probably from the 1950s based on the stamp, but no more information about them...

(http://i75.servimg.com/u/f75/12/24/75/57/inconn10.jpg)

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/wenger28.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 24, 2013, 02:49:09 AM
Probably a 507 model (1916-1919), carbon steel blade, like new !

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/modele10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on December 24, 2013, 04:16:57 AM
Probably a 507 model (1916-1919), carbon steel blade, like new !

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/modele10.jpg)

Huh, humped scissors on a legitimate SAK.  I'll be damned......  That is a lovely piece.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 24, 2013, 05:54:07 AM
Probably a 507 model (1916-1919), carbon steel blade, like new !

(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/24/75/57/modele10.jpg)

Beautiful!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: burnside on December 24, 2013, 08:44:22 AM
That BSA is nice!  :tu:

I've got my eye on a few Wenger SAKs now. Won't be long before I pull the trigger on my first. I've never actually owned a wenger in all my years of owning various Voctorinox SAKs ever since the late 70s. I really like idea of getting an 84mm model like their Traveler.

Didn't I buy SI's off of you? O.o

You sure did! I guess I did own those two Wenger SIs for about a week before I sold them to you. They lived in their boxes for that week.

 I can't remember ever owning one of their celidor models, although I'm sure there is a chance that I might have as a kid and did not realize it was Wenger. I always assumed Wenger was the 'cheaper' version of Victorinox when I was a kid. I'm now thinking about picking up a few different models mostly because of this thread.

I suppose I should have said I have never used (or remember using) a Wenger SAK.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sticktodrum on December 24, 2013, 02:06:42 PM
Well, Alexei (+B Canada) still has some Wenger SI's for a fairly decent price. :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on December 24, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
Has anybody an idea about the number of this knife? Some old Wenger catalogs etc.?
It's about 97mm long (closed)

I'm sorry, I have no information on this knife but I think it's an old one (1916's to 1919's?) because of the bail and the stamp...

I have 2 knives very similar with carbon steel blades and Tenite handle, probably from the 1950s based on the stamp, but no more information about them...


@jcfiguet
Many thanks for these interesting info. :salute:

@Carl
before jcfiguet's answer, I was about to send it to you  :P

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 26, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
OK, clearing the backlog a bit. :ahhh


The Ducks, Europa Star Series, Wenger Nature Series (needs some more info), Wenger Angler (3 and 4 layer models) created.


Identifier for left handed EVO14 added to both pages, added identifier and names to the Skier without file and Survivor with nail file. (I stopped here as I ran into the Survivors mess, we'll need more info here, maybe even split them up ? - Carlo, if you wanna take over that part, it's all yours. ;) )

As always, if you notice any errors or have further info, let me know.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 26, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
I got this one a while ago but just opened it today:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 27, 2013, 04:51:03 AM
Nikola,

Your new additions to the wiki are looking good.  :salute:

Did notice a couple of minor problems:

- In the Europas, when you click on the third photo (with the Victorinox), it enlarges the second photo.

- Angler (4 layer) The Related Knives write-up is a mix of the 3 and 4-layer Anglers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 27, 2013, 12:17:43 PM
OK, clearing the backlog a bit. :ahhh


The Ducks, Europa Star Series, Wenger Nature Series (needs some more info), Wenger Angler (3 and 4 layer models) created.


Identifier for left handed EVO14 added to both pages, added identifier and names to the Skier without file and Survivor with nail file. (I stopped here as I ran into the Survivors mess, we'll need more info here, maybe even split them up ? - Carlo, if you wanna take over that part, it's all yours. ;) )

As always, if you notice any errors or have further info, let me know.

No problems, I can edit the Survivor page.
I'm not quite sure about the use of the name "Angler" for the two knives listed, as this same name was also used for the "Troller" in same markets (UK for sure).
I actually have one "Troller" bought from the UK (with the fly lure imprint on the front scale) and the box clearly says "Angler".
I also think that the "Pecheur"/Fisherman name has more to do with the series name, rather than with single knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 27, 2013, 01:01:21 PM
Karl, I corrected the errors. :cheers: If you have a better suggestion for the related knives, let me know. :salute:

OK, clearing the backlog a bit. :ahhh


The Ducks, Europa Star Series, Wenger Nature Series (needs some more info), Wenger Angler (3 and 4 layer models) created.


Identifier for left handed EVO14 added to both pages, added identifier and names to the Skier without file and Survivor with nail file. (I stopped here as I ran into the Survivors mess, we'll need more info here, maybe even split them up ? - Carlo, if you wanna take over that part, it's all yours. ;) )

As always, if you notice any errors or have further info, let me know.

No problems, I can edit the Survivor page.
I'm not quite sure about the use of the name "Angler" for the two knives listed, as this same name was also used for the "Troller" in same markets (UK for sure).
I actually have one "Troller" bought from the UK (with the fly lure imprint on the front scale) and the box clearly says "Angler".
I also think that the "Pecheur"/Fisherman name has more to do with the series name, rather than with single knives.

Does the Angler named Troller have the same identifiers as the ones listed in the wiki or a new one? Maybe add it under variations as "Troller with fly lure imprint was also sold as the Angler in some markets." with a picture of it next to it. :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 28, 2013, 12:50:31 AM
Under Related Knives for the Anglers and other similar knives maybe add:

The fish hook sharpening file was a feature on a number of Wenger fishing-related knives, including:

- Angler (3 layer) (scissors)
- Angler (4 layer) (scaler)
- Catch and Release (scissors & pliers)
- Troller (scissors & scaler)

-----

Carlo, Angler may be a series name, but until we can come up with better names for the Angler (3- & 4-layers), those names will work to identify the knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 28, 2013, 12:57:28 AM
For the Nature Series might add:

The Nature Series use the same blades and tools as the 75mm knives, but are actually 69mm in length. The standard 75mm knives have a more rounded end with overlapping plastic handles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 28, 2013, 10:51:48 AM
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !

Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)

Mine arrived  just now.
Wow  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Its great!! I feel very very fortunate.
Many thanks JC
 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 28, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
The knife " Bye Bye Wenger " will arrive soon !

Do not forget : it's the last series manufactured by Wenger...

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)

Mine arrived  just now.
Wow  :drool: :drool: :drool:

Its great!! I feel very very fortunate.
Many thanks JC
 :tu:

I am very happy for you!

I hope that other shipments will arrive soon!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 28, 2013, 02:47:12 PM

Does the Angler named Troller have the same identifiers as the ones listed in the wiki or a new one? Maybe add it under variations as "Troller with fly lure imprint was also sold as the Angler in some markets." with a picture of it next to it. :think:

The catalog number is the same.
The "Angler" name is just on a sticker applied on the box.
I think Heinnie Haynes was also selling a while back this knife (Troller with fly lure image) using the name "Angler".

Under Related Knives for the Anglers and other similar knives maybe add:

The fish hook sharpening file was a feature on a number of Wenger fishing-related knives, including:

- Angler (3 layer) (scissors)
- Angler (4 layer) (scaler)
- Catch and Release (scissors & pliers)
- Troller (scissors & scaler)

-----

Carlo, Angler may be a series name, but until we can come up with better names for the Angler (3- & 4-layers), those names will work to identify the knives.

Karl, agree about the utility to use the "Angler" name.
However, the official series name was "Pecheur" which translates into Fisherman.
I uploaded a while back on the wiki a picture of the model 1.03.05 with the fly lure.
I have two in my collection, one with the imprint and one without.
 
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2679) 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 29, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
Lucky to find a NIB Teton recently retail for an old price. I like this SAK configuration and this Wenger's variant is almost perfection:
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=90106;image)

Marius, can I use this picture for the wiki page?

We don't have a picture of the basic model. The one we're currently using is a stock picture hotlinked to the wengerNA site.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Teton
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MWDP on December 29, 2013, 01:00:37 PM
I love it

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=89146;image)

What a beautiful pic right here  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 31, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
A very strange logo on a Sierra...

I'm not sure it's a guenine one...


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/dsMAAOxy4dNSvJMt/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 31, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
I was already bidding on that one  >:D
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore  :-\
It is a "Young Fisherman" (16993) and can be seen on the latest Wenger catalog that Francis posted.
The only difference with the Sierra (old version) is (not considering the Backpacker inscription on the blade) that the old Sierra had only tweezers.
Young Fisherman, instead, has both T&T.
However, newer versions of the Sierra (with the imprint just "printed", not hot stamped) had plain balde (no inscriptions) and both toothpick and tweezers.
I'm planning to update the wiki with all these informations.
Just waiting an answer from forum member meanx, who has an old Sierra and uploaded a picture of it on the wiki gallery a while back.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 31, 2013, 09:45:26 AM
...
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore  :-\
...
ho sorry !
I delete the link !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on January 03, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
Just opened the mail to get a used rangergrip 79.  What a big bulking thing.  This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I think
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 03, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
...
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore  :-\
...
ho sorry !
I delete the link !

No problems, I was able to secure the knife anyway!
A little bit of competition with a forum member, but I have to admit that this was an interesting knife.

This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I think
Ouch!  :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 03, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Just opened the mail to get a used rangergrip 79.  What a big bulking thing.  This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I think

The risk of buying used. :-\ I hope it cleans up ok and that all the implements are in good shape. :cheers:

I just noticed I didn't answer your question (;) not yours, WWW's, but still) in the other thread. :oops: Time to bump it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 03, 2014, 07:17:46 PM
...
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore  :-\
...
ho sorry !
I delete the link !

No problems, I was able to secure the knife anyway!
A little bit of competition with a forum member, but I have to admit that this was an interesting knife.


Looking forward to the pics of it. I only saw it briefly on my phone before Jean-Claude pulled the link. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 03, 2014, 07:29:13 PM
I think I might know that competition.

----

On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office.  Thank you very much!!   :cheers:

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=108579;image)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 03, 2014, 07:41:32 PM
I think I might know that competition.

----

On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office.  Thank you very much!!   :cheers:

...

I hope you will love it !  :climber:

And consider us as friends of the Swiss army knives, not as competitors    :surrender:  :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 03, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
I think I might know that competition.

----

On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office.  Thank you very much!!   :cheers:

...

I hope you will love it !  :climber:

And consider us as friends of the Swiss army knives, not as competitors    :surrender:  :drink:
You're a very good friend to me!   :drink: 

What a super job you did on this knife.  I'm still not crazy about the inscription, but I've accepted it as a cultural thing and I love everything else about the knife.  I'm very happy it has the non-Evo scales, not that Evo would have been bad, but I just like it this way more.

This knife is like the UnitedWoods Collection to me in saying good by to Wenger.   :salute:


Somewhere in the mail I have a gift for Wenger SAK fans I think... right now though I'm backed up with stuff, snowed in, and I'm late on my Victorinox presents...  but all in good time.  This year I've adopted the lunar calendar so I have an extra month in 2013.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 03, 2014, 08:04:14 PM
I think I might know that competition.

----

On the good side, the Snow storm is clearing and I made it to the post office.  Thank you very much!!   :cheers:

...

I hope you will love it !  :climber:

And consider us as friends of the Swiss army knives, not as competitors    :surrender:  :drink:
You're a very good friend to me!   :drink: 

What a super job you did on this knife.  I'm still not crazy about the inscription, but I've accepted it as a cultural thing and I love everything else about the knife.  I'm very happy it has the non-Evo scales, not that Evo would have been bad, but I just like it this way more.

This knife is like the UnitedWoods Collection to me in saying good by to Wenger.   :salute:


Somewhere in the mail I have a gift for Wenger SAK fans I think... right now though I'm backed up with stuff, snowed in, and I'm late on my Victorinox presents...  but all in good time.  This year I've adopted the lunar calendar so I have an extra month in 2013.

Thanks a lot !
These compliments go straight to my heart !

For lunar calendar, don't  forget that the months are shorter (28 days) LOL !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on January 03, 2014, 09:59:21 PM
It looked dirty in the pics and it was.  Bits of brown and red.  I washed it in hot soapy water and gave it a good rinse. All impliments work as they should.  Lots of snap.

These Rangergrip 79s are great.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 03, 2014, 11:18:08 PM
...
So I guess that now the auction won't go unnoticed anymore  :-\
...
ho sorry !
I delete the link !

No problems, I was able to secure the knife anyway!
A little bit of competition with a forum member, but I have to admit that this was an interesting knife.

This thing came dirty. Dried bits of animal parts I think
Ouch!  :o

Congrats! Post a better shot of the logo when you get it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on January 04, 2014, 06:07:26 AM
Lucky to find a NIB Teton recently retail for an old price. I like this SAK configuration and this Wenger's variant is almost perfection:
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/any-love-for-wenger/?action=dlattach;attach=90106;image)

Marius, can I use this picture for the wiki page?

We don't have a picture of the basic model. The one we're currently using is a stock picture hotlinked to the wengerNA site.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Teton

Yes, please go ahead. I was away for a while and was about to miss this one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 04, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 04, 2014, 01:28:44 PM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?

2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 04, 2014, 02:21:37 PM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?

2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!

Thanks!

I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23    :tu:   it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it.   :)

Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox?    :think:

 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 04, 2014, 05:41:23 PM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?

2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!

Thanks!

I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23    :tu:   it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it.   :)

Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox?    :think:

 

I don't know what the strength of the wenger magnifier is - but I don't actually like it that much to use, its very small. I much prefer the victorinox.
As for scissors, each to their own. But for me I prefer wenger. But be warned they are serrated, so if you're considering using for nails you'll need a file too - found on Wenger's not on many victorinox's.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 04, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Thanks, tosh!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 04, 2014, 09:19:57 PM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?

2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!

Thanks!

I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23    :tu:   it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it.   :)

Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox?    :think:

 

I don't know what the strength of the wenger magnifier is - but I don't actually like it that much to use, its very small. I much prefer the victorinox.
As for scissors, each to their own. But for me I prefer wenger. But be warned they are serrated, so if you're considering using for nails you'll need a file too - found on Wenger's not on many victorinox's.


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details because this magnifier is too small.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger (rarely on Victorinox). This nail file is often necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the "philosophical differences of use" between the two brands...

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 04, 2014, 09:36:09 PM


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...

Hi JC

Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 04, 2014, 10:13:24 PM
Thank you for the clarification jcfiguet!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 04, 2014, 10:18:16 PM


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...

Hi JC

Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.

Well, I'm not sure it's official line from Wenger, this is just based on logical findings and also on the use of Wenger knives :
During lot of years Wenger shifted to camping, scouting, etc. And the company has made numerous advertising and commercial communications in newspapers such as 'Boy's life', 'Backpacker', etc... For me it's therefore legitimate to ask the question "why a magnifying glass on a camping knife or survival knife?" or "why scissors on a fisherman knife?". Wenger also made very special tools such as the 'Swiss Business Tool' with scissors made to cut paper but not for nails !
I think Wenger tried to adapt tools to specific uses, as Victorinox tried to make standard and universal  tools. It's just a personal idea !

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 04, 2014, 10:31:18 PM


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...

Hi JC

Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.

Well, I'm not sure it's official line from Wenger, this is just based on logical findings and also on the use of Wenger knives :
During lot of years Wenger shifted to camping, scouting, etc. And the company has made numerous advertising and commercial communications in newspapers such as 'Boy's life', 'Backpacker', etc... For me it's therefore legitimate to ask the question "why a magnifying glass on a camping knife or survival knife?" or "why scissors on a fisherman knife?". Wenger also made very special tools such as the 'Swiss Business Tool' with scissors made to cut paper but not for nails !
  I think Wenger tried to adapt tools to specific uses, as Victorinox tried to make standard and universal  tools. It's just a personal idea !

At last, I have an Allie  :ahhh :ahhh

It looks as though it's just the 2 of us JC.  :salute:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 04, 2014, 10:34:52 PM


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger, whitch is necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the philosophical differences of use between the two brands...

Hi JC

Is that the official line from Wenger?? I have never heard or read that before. I'm not doubting what you say is true , like I previously mentioned its horrible to look through.
How fantastic that wenger actually produced a proper survival tool.
Fabulous.

Well, I'm not sure it's official line from Wenger, this is just based on logical findings and also on the use of Wenger knives :
During lot of years Wenger shifted to camping, scouting, etc. And the company has made numerous advertising and commercial communications in newspapers such as 'Boy's life', 'Backpacker', etc... For me it's therefore legitimate to ask the question "why a magnifying glass on a camping knife or survival knife?" or "why scissors on a fisherman knife?". Wenger also made very special tools such as the 'Swiss Business Tool' with scissors made to cut paper but not for nails !
  I think Wenger tried to adapt tools to specific uses, as Victorinox tried to make standard and universal  tools. It's just a personal idea !

At last, I have an Allie  :ahhh :ahhh

It looks as though it's just the 2 of us JC.  :salute:

I think we are not alone ! Lot of guys have the same idea.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 06, 2014, 10:22:48 PM
So what do you call a Monarch with a locking blade?



So you really want to know?



I'm afraid it's not very exciting....





Wait for it...........









Regal


ya pretty boring..... but better than "Monarch with Packlock"


....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"


One more mystery solved for North America.  Anti-climatic, but satisfying. 

More SAK naming mysteries revealed at a later date.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 06, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
So what do you call a Monarch with a locking blade?



So you really want to know?



I'm afraid it's not very exciting....





Wait for it...........









Regal


ya pretty boring..... but better than "Monarch with Packlock"


....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"


One more mystery solved for North America.  Anti-climatic, but satisfying. 

More SAK naming mysteries revealed at a later date.

 :cheers:

Where did you find these names ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 07, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
So what do you call a Monarch with a locking blade?



So you really want to know?



I'm afraid it's not very exciting....





Wait for it...........









Regal


ya pretty boring..... but better than "Monarch with Packlock"


....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"


One more mystery solved for North America.  Anti-climatic, but satisfying. 

More SAK naming mysteries revealed at a later date.

 :cheers:

Where did you find these names ?

Yes, thanks for the informations.
I would love to see the source as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 07, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
This is my latest purchase (quite cheap).
The knife is just a Ranger 05 (so nothing special).
However, I think you don't see this kind of package so often, so I took few pictures.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 07, 2014, 03:14:57 PM
@basilio

Do Wenger knives come with a 5 year warranty only, because that's what I read on the package?     :o

Victorinox on the other hand comes with a lifelong warranty!    :tu:

What's the story on this?    :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 07, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
@basilio

Do Wenger knives come with a 5 year warranty only, because that's what I read on the package?     :o

Victorinox on the other hand comes with a lifelong warranty!    :tu:

What's the story on this?    :think:

Good observation!
This package is quite old, from the 90's and at that time the warranty was apparently only 5 years.
This changed over time, as now is for lifetime.
http://www.wenger.ch/warranty-swiss-army-knives.
This was for Europe.
In North America all the papers from the 70-80 show a lifetime warranty.
However, I'm not sure if this warranty was given by Wenger or (more probably) by Precise International (the distributor).
I had a look at my catalogs to see when the change happened, but there is no mention in there about warranty.
Will have a look at the warranty papers that usually come inside the knife boxes to see if I'll find the information there.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 07, 2014, 03:43:26 PM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

I forgot to mention that I just received an answer from the german seller.
He very kindly gave us permission to use the auction pictures for the wiki.
He also told me that unfortuantely he was not able to find the original pictures anymore.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: colt 1911 on January 07, 2014, 04:12:10 PM
I don't know anything about Wenger, but I could be interested if there is still a model around with the metal framed magnifier. From what I see in the pictures, the scissors seem to be better than those on the Victorinox.

Any suggestions?

2 that spring to mind apart from the fully loaded 54 are the J574 and 23.
I have both Vic and wenger models that sport the mag layer. I find the wenger version more difficult in use. But I agree it does look better, plus the end doubles as a micro screwdriver!!

Thanks!

I did some searching on the net and the Wenger 23    :tu:   it will probably be as soon as I can spend the money on it.   :)

Do you happen to know how powerful the magnifier on the Wenger actually is? Is it similar to the Victorinox Explorer? And what do you think of the scissors compared to those of the Victorinox?    :think:

 

I don't know what the strength of the wenger magnifier is - but I don't actually like it that much to use, its very small. I much prefer the victorinox.
As for scissors, each to their own. But for me I prefer wenger. But be warned they are serrated, so if you're considering using for nails you'll need a file too - found on Wenger's not on many victorinox's.


Just to clarify, the magnifier of Wenger is primarily intended to start a fire (lile fire of scout camp) and the length of this tool has also allowed to add small flat screwdriver, so it's difficult to use the magnifier to enlarge details because this magnifier is too small.
Wenger scissors are primarily made to cut nails, cotton thread, nylon thread or fishing thread. That is why there is also often a nail file on Wenger (rarely on Victorinox). This nail file is often necessary to use after cutting his nails with serrated scissors. You can also cut papers, but in this case the Victorinox scissors are easier to use.
This is part of the "philosophical differences of use" between the two brands...

That makes total sense on the mag glass, it is almost impossible it use as a magnifier. Thanks for that bit of info makes me look at the wenger glass in a whole new light.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on January 07, 2014, 04:58:30 PM
This is my latest purchase (quite cheap).
The knife is just a Ranger 05 (so nothing special).
However, I think you don't see this kind of package so often, so I took few pictures.


Nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 07, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
@basilio

Thanks for clarifying on the warranty issue.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 09, 2014, 05:50:54 PM

I missed one on ebay there is a month or two ...

And I'm still sick for that !

I think I found it!
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-/251333869469?pt=DE_Sport_Camping_Outdoor_Campingmesser_werkzeug&hash=item3a84aa7f9d&nma=true&si=OUid3iqkEprDmePKdUEdmqxZHro%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Jean Claude was the same auction you saw?

I forgot to mention that I just received an answer from the german seller.
He very kindly gave us permission to use the auction pictures for the wiki.
He also told me that unfortuantely he was not able to find the original pictures anymore.

Thanks for asking. :salute: No problem on the quality of the pictures. The collage he posted in that auction is a high resolution one.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Blancpain-WENGER-BERGEON-MINATHOR-Uhrmacher-Taschenmesser-watchmaker-knife-
/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/Id4AAOxy015SKJu8/$T2eC16J,!)4FIY)hJ5ycBSKJu7g(1Q~~60_57.JPG

I'd much more like permission for use of pictures of the EKA Minathor. Anyone here on Watchuseek?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 11, 2014, 12:07:03 AM
.....
Regal
.....

....If you put black scales on it then apparantly it's not a Regal anymore but a "Valiant with Packlock"
.....

Where did you find these names ?
They are from a US Catalog I have not posted yet.  After the large Vic catalog I'm all scanned out for a while.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 11, 2014, 12:17:49 AM
QVC related by any chance? It's the only seller/site I can find a reference to it. :shrug: No hurry though with the scanning. The Vic catalog was a great contribution already. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 21, 2014, 02:38:51 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on January 21, 2014, 02:44:37 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Wow, love that blade shape

I don't think the skier is upside down, he is actually correct on this one. That is how I always see up/down, left/right because its the way you hold it in front of yourself (if you are right-handed).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on January 21, 2014, 02:52:37 PM
Addendum:
The stamp has this orientation on many Wenger
Duck / Deer / Cyclist / Fly Fisherman etc.

They probably changed orientation at one point so it looks better in a display case :P. Though by that definition the edge is facing upwards :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 21, 2014, 03:20:38 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Wow, love that blade shape

I don't think the skier is upside down, he is actually correct on this one. That is how I always see up/down, left/right because its the way you hold it in front of yourself (if you are right-handed).

Yes, agree.
I used the word upside-down because I was comparing directly to the newer imprint.
I agree with you that the old style imprint is much more suggestive in this position, than the newer one.
(sorry for the poor quality, but this was the only picture I had handy)
(http://i.imgur.com/t4xv767.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on January 21, 2014, 03:27:38 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!
Wow, love that blade shape

I don't think the skier is upside down, he is actually correct on this one. That is how I always see up/down, left/right because its the way you hold it in front of yourself (if you are right-handed).

Yes, agree.
I used the word upside-down because I was comparing directly to the newer imprint.
I agree with you that the old style imprint is much more suggestive in this position, than the newer one.
(sorry for the poor quality, but this was the only picture I had handy)
Yup, that is how I understood you. I was referring to the older implying that the newer is "wrong".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 21, 2014, 03:28:08 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!

My personal estimation : 1975/1976 !

Very nice knife !

And wonderfull "spear blade"
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 21, 2014, 04:35:07 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!


I really like that knife!    :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: daverobson on January 21, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
As for the topic title "Any love for Wenger", I'd love to be able to find an affordable Wenger Soldier!

In the UK I've found many website's advertising them, trouble is when I click to buy I find out that they are "out of stock".  :ahhh
http://www.uttings.co.uk/p104910-wenger-soldier-pocket-knife-soldier/
http://www.shop4wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knives_soldier.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wenger-Solidier-Swiss-Army-Knife/dp/B000AR7AOW
http://www.questhardware.co.uk/wenger-soldier-knife.html
http://www.outdoor365.co.uk/swiss-army-knives-c44/wenger-soldier-swiss-army-knife-p268
http://www.surplusplus.co.uk/acatalog/info_SOLDIER.html

The only one's I've found available are for pick up only & the closest one to me is a 210 mile round trip.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/leatherman-soldier-equipment-p138928
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on January 21, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!

It is beautiful! Wow! and i believe it to be from 1975-76 the year it was introduced  :) The year 1975 is special with Wenger. It was the year the knives was changed on many of the tools and design.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on January 21, 2014, 08:23:33 PM
This knife also tell me that it was introduced with the scraper tool and embossed icon from the beginning. It looks so. After 1976 the can opener and flat screwdriver started to change side. We get the chain and new emblem + more. It looked very different after 1976/78.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 21, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
This knife also tell me that it was introduced with the scraper tool and embossed icon from the beginning. It looks so. After 1976 the can opener and flat screwdriver started to change side. We get the chain and new emblem + more. It looked very different after 1976/78.

I'm not sure but I think in 1975 the large blade changed from "spear blade" to "drop point blade"...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on January 21, 2014, 11:03:50 PM
As for the topic title "Any love for Wenger", I'd love to be able to find an affordable Wenger Soldier!

In the UK I've found many website's advertising them, trouble is when I click to buy I find out that they are "out of stock".  :ahhh
http://www.uttings.co.uk/p104910-wenger-soldier-pocket-knife-soldier/
http://www.shop4wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knives_soldier.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wenger-Solidier-Swiss-Army-Knife/dp/B000AR7AOW
http://www.questhardware.co.uk/wenger-soldier-knife.html
http://www.outdoor365.co.uk/swiss-army-knives-c44/wenger-soldier-swiss-army-knife-p268
http://www.surplusplus.co.uk/acatalog/info_SOLDIER.html

The only one's I've found available are for pick up only & the closest one to me is a 210 mile round trip.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/leatherman-soldier-equipment-p138928

On ebay +B Canada has some ....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on January 21, 2014, 11:41:05 PM
As for the topic title "Any love for Wenger", I'd love to be able to find an affordable Wenger Soldier!

In the UK I've found many website's advertising them, trouble is when I click to buy I find out that they are "out of stock".  :ahhh
http://www.uttings.co.uk/p104910-wenger-soldier-pocket-knife-soldier/
http://www.shop4wenger.co.uk/swiss_army_knives_soldier.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wenger-Solidier-Swiss-Army-Knife/dp/B000AR7AOW
http://www.questhardware.co.uk/wenger-soldier-knife.html
http://www.outdoor365.co.uk/swiss-army-knives-c44/wenger-soldier-swiss-army-knife-p268
http://www.surplusplus.co.uk/acatalog/info_SOLDIER.html

The only one's I've found available are for pick up only & the closest one to me is a 210 mile round trip.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/leatherman-soldier-equipment-p138928

This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 22, 2014, 12:53:10 AM
Here is an interesting find (in my opinion).
It is the oldest skier I have ever seen.
Note: old type Wenger shield on the blade, old profile main blade, old type can opener, 5 turns corkscrew and (very interesting) the skier imprint is upside down.
I think this knife is from before 1977, but I ask North Man to give a better date estimate.
Oh...almost forgot, won the auction for $ 4 and something plus shipment!

It is beautiful! Wow! and i believe it to be from 1975-76 the year it was introduced  :) The year 1975 is special with Wenger. It was the year the knives was changed on many of the tools and design.
That one is a real beauty of a Wenger.  :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on January 22, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
This knife also tell me that it was introduced with the scraper tool and embossed icon from the beginning. It looks so. After 1976 the can opener and flat screwdriver started to change side. We get the chain and new emblem + more. It looked very different after 1976/78.

I'm not sure but I think in 1975 the large blade changed from "spear blade" to "drop point blade"...

Hi
i am working on the 1975 time period and i could see a change in the blade from 1976 so maybe 1975 could be. So far there are so many changes from 1974-1976 that it is difficult to be sure. It looks like Wenger could have used some functions and shape/designs side by side for some time during the changes. The Skier from Basilio 1975/76 is very interesting! Here is some of the timeline i am working on
http://www.sakhome.com/305357088
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 22, 2014, 10:51:18 AM
Thanks everyone for helping to find a date for this knife.
North Man I have your blog page bookmarked now!
I used to look at the topic you made here with the Wenger time period, but your blog seems more up to date.
I will implement the old skier picture on the wiki page, as I think it will be handy for future reference.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 22, 2014, 11:03:36 AM
...
 Here is some of the timeline i am working on
http://www.sakhome.com/305357088

Hello North Man, I love your blog even I'm not sure about all Wenger dates !
It's a colossal work !

As you can see I put a link on FCS : http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t830-le-blog-de-north-man#10135
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: daverobson on January 22, 2014, 01:39:41 PM
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.



I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."

After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling  ???



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 22, 2014, 03:17:59 PM
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.



I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."

After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling  ???

For your information : This is the last "Standard Issue" made by Wenger in 2012... Without Cross shield...
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/swiss_army_70.jpg)

And the previous (less 2012):
(http://www.bz1-img.com/images_customers/09/40/6820401_58124_full.jpg)

Standard price is around 20.00 or 25.00 € on ebay for a new one.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 22, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.



I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."

After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling  ???

Eventually drop me a PM.
I think I can find one from a shop here, but if I remembered correctly the asking price was between € 30 and € 40, so you would better look for cheaper options.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 22, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.



I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."

After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling  ???

Eventually drop me a PM.
I think I can find one from a shop here, but if I remembered correctly the asking price was between € 30 and € 40, so you would better look for cheaper options.

For a guenine soldier's knife, I can understand the price, even more ! Depending on the rarity of vintages, but for a civilian "soldier knife", 30 € is too expensive!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 22, 2014, 07:00:30 PM

For a guenine soldier's knife, I can understand the price, even more ! Depending on the rarity of vintages, but for a civilian "soldier knife", 30 € is too expensive!

Yes, I think the same.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 22, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.



I've just had an email from Silvermans.
"I have been advised that it doesnt have the hollow rivet but does have a
lanyard loop at one end, we will update the photograph on the website as it
is an old picture."

After that I'm not sure what it is they're selling  ???

For your information : This is the last "Standard Issue" made by Wenger in 2012... Without Cross shield...
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/swiss_army_70.jpg)

...

You can find one here : http://www.fr.ricardo.ch/acheter/collections-et-raretes/armee-suisse/equipement-et-pcs-de-rechange/wenger-delemont-army-70-ohne-kreuz/v/an727320482/?IsAutoCompletSearch=1

I mention that I am not the seller even it's the same photos !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 23, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
I was browsing around the german Bay and stumbled upon this Porsche Design Traveler

http://www.ebay.de/itm/390751098973

Really shows the layers of the "Ruthenium" scales.

Thought some might find it interesting as there was talk about these scales in the past.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=115934;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: daverobson on January 24, 2014, 09:13:05 PM

This one perhaps? http://www.silvermans.co.uk/tabid/64/Default.aspx?Search=wenger

no prior experience with them etc etc.


Thanks Gareth.  :tu:
I ordered a Wenger SI from there on Wednesday afternoon & it arrived this morning!
Brand new in box!

I was told by email to ignore the photo on their website as it's an old one & needs updating.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 25, 2014, 05:28:48 PM
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.

King Arthur
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on January 25, 2014, 11:28:28 PM
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.

King Arthur


It's a beaut though :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 25, 2014, 11:48:47 PM
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.

King Arthur

Great looking knife!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 26, 2014, 01:59:56 AM
I was weak; this beauty made me over pay.

King Arthur

So beautifull and rare !

Very difficult to find in good condition...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 26, 2014, 03:30:16 AM
One more shot/crop.  Wenger had a good idea with this series.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 26, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
Very nice score, congratulations!
I don't quite understand the decision that Wenger made, back in those days, to sell this line (apart from the two basic models) only in North America.
 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on January 27, 2014, 10:39:08 AM
My new knifes
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 27, 2014, 11:59:59 AM
My new knifes

Nice "patrouille des glaciers 2000" and "computeur wiz" (rare) !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 27, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Nice knives!
There were few "computer wiz(zes)" that showed up in new condition on ebay, not long ago.
All were USA-only auctions, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on January 27, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
Yes, I bought these knifes on ebay were on sale only for the USA. I keep in contact with the relative, he lives in NY he helped me.
I looked for and tried to buy computer wiz about two years.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on January 27, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
Very nice additions, Gim. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Wilfried on January 27, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
I especially like the second one, Gim!    :tu:


 :gimme:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 27, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
The second is a Junior model with EvoWood scales, named JuniorWood 11.
The catalog is interesting because it has also the three Ranger models with orange scales.
I'll try to scan it all.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on January 27, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
You can get an Evowood in Europe with a Phillips screwdriver. As long as you don't mind having a blunt blade made for 6 year olds.
How daft is that? Decisions like that make me think Wenger deserved to go down the pan.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Spatha on January 27, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
@Gim, I love the handle inlay on the patrouille des glaciers 2000.   :drool:

Got myself a Wenger SI today, thanks to the link Gareth provided.   :cheers:

Here it is with its identical twin (my well used Vic '05).  I can pretty much only tell them apart by the bail.

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae267/Spatha22/DSCF0580_zpsbd73a1ba.jpg)


There is just the tiniest bit of difference in the caplifter.  As far as I can tell, the awl and can opener are identical.

(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae267/Spatha22/DSCF0581_zpsa0c921a9.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 28, 2014, 01:25:16 AM
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
The second is a Junior model with EvoWood scales, named JuniorWood 11.
The catalog is interesting because it has also the three Ranger models with orange scales.
I'll try to scan it all.
That looks very interesting!

My new knifes
Ya that Computer Wiz is definetly a bit hard to come by. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 28, 2014, 02:18:56 AM
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).
The second is a Junior model with EvoWood scales, named JuniorWood 11.
The catalog is interesting because it has also the three Ranger models with orange scales.
I'll try to scan it all.

Interesting find! Is the pear wood model actually available?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 28, 2014, 09:17:32 AM


Interesting find! Is the pear wood model actually available?

Yes, it is.
Make a search on amazon websites in Europe.
The "key" here, is to search for "Wenger Evo [space] Wood 14".
If you searched for "EvoWood 14", without the space, only the walnut model shows up.
What is the logic behind it I don't know.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 29, 2014, 03:23:47 AM
This got me thinking.  I wonder if some of those really light colored EvoWood knives we've seen are not Walnut also. 

The new Carl Elsener Explorer is a wood very similar to Oak in some ways, but does use a Swiss wood variety.  Maybe they expanded beyond the Walnut as supply dictated, or just for variety.  Naming wood is like naming fish, once they process it they feel they can call it anything as there are so many varieties, it's rare consumers get the real DNA accurate name for wood products.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 29, 2014, 06:05:26 AM
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 29, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
....  Naming wood is like naming fish, once they process it they feel they can call it anything as there are so many varieties ....

Absolutely beautiful !
I love this way to summarize this and you're right...

Generaly, Victorinox use wood called "bois de rose", but I can't imagine using rose wood to make scales ! In fact this wood is named Dalbergia (see http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalbergia)

Walnut wood is very common and not expensive in Europe. It is a pretty wood, strong enough, fairly lightweight, easy to work and tinting, so often used in cutlery (Germany, France, UK, Switzerland, North of Italia, etc.).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on January 29, 2014, 01:48:55 PM
I found a 2013 catalog from the Germany company Herbertz, a knife company from Solingen which also distributes other knives brands.
Wenger is one of those.
I found in their 2013 catalog two interesting models I was not aware.
The first is a Evowood 14 with the scales not in walnut but pear (if I translates correctly Birnenholz).

Pear wood! Very cool! Unless they made a one letter typo and wanted to say birch. In any way a very interesting variation from the regular walnut models!

+1 on what others said.

 :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 30, 2014, 12:51:03 AM
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.
From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example.  There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show.  The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 30, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.
From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example.  There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show.  The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.

I should be getting the pear model very soon.
I don't have any 85mm walnut to compare, but I do have the RangerWood SAC, so that should be enough.
I think that it is not only a matter of different color.
If the woods were different, you should be able to check by inspection.
And, of course, the catalog numbers are different, if your came in a box
Edit: have now the knife in my hands.
Will try to post later few pictures.
The label reads: EvoWood Poirier 14, with identifier 1.14.09.833
production date is: 11 2011
Over it there is an additional label with the identifier 114093299 we already saw in the german catalog.
At quick inspection, I can tell you that my model does not have the "wood lip missing below the corkscrew" as shown by Marius in the first picture here
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=21658.msg788402;topicseen#msg788402
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on January 30, 2014, 01:32:56 PM
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.
Looks like the top knife scales are cut from the heart wood, and the bottom knife scales are cut from the sap wood.  In some cuts you can see both the heart wood and the sap wood, it almost looks like two seperate pieces of wood glued together the contrast is so great! See my walnut opinel here one post from the bottom.  Good that you've got one of each, Walnut is a great wood!
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=30307.msg836707#msg836707
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 30, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
Here are a total of six shots.
The wood is completely different also by touch: walnut feels very "smooth", while pear is a little more "rugged".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 30, 2014, 01:54:16 PM
Last two
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on January 30, 2014, 02:43:35 PM
Last two

Very nice, Basilio! Thanks for these. Incoming PM  :)

:cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on January 30, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
It was on Amazon France but it's gone now....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 30, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
My EvoWood 14 (bottom) is so light colored I was wondering if it might be poplar or birch.. Maybe I got one of the pear woods by mistake.
From the look of that picture I'd say there is like a 90% chance that you have the a Pear wood example.  There are some though that are lighter/whiter that than one you show.  The one you have though looks pretty much identical to the one in the catalog photo in terms of tone once accounting for the light.

I should be getting the pear model very soon.
I don't have any 85mm walnut to compare, but I do have the RangerWood SAC, so that should be enough.
I think that it is not only a matter of different color.
If the woods were different, you should be able to check by inspection.
And, of course, the catalog numbers are different, if your came in a box
Edit: have now the knife in my hands.
Will try to post later few pictures.
The label reads: EvoWood Poirier 14, with identifier 1.14.09.833
production date is: 11 2011
Over it there is an additional label with the identifier 114093299 we already saw in the german catalog.
At quick inspection, I can tell you that my model does not have the "wood lip missing below the corkscrew" as shown by Marius in the first picture here
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=21658.msg788402;topicseen#msg788402

The number on mine is: 1014009830. From my spread sheet; the box is buried away.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on January 31, 2014, 03:46:32 AM
I think there is a Wenger Hunter 58 in my PO Box
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on January 31, 2014, 04:41:03 AM
.....
The number on mine is: 1014009830. From my spread sheet; the box is buried away.
That number applies to the Walnut scales, but from the picture it looks miss numbered or miss recorded.  Definetly check the wood grain with another EvoWood.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 31, 2014, 07:55:17 AM
.....
The number on mine is: 1014009830. From my spread sheet; the box is buried away.
That number applies to the Walnut scales, but from the picture it looks miss numbered or miss recorded.  Definetly check the wood grain with another EvoWood.

It's the lightest colored of any of my EvoWoods. Also has the plainest grain. I think it might have gotten in the wrong box.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 31, 2014, 02:29:09 PM
Karl,
for sure it looks different, compared to the others.
If it was pear or not is almost impossible to tell from a picture.
I took my images with natural light at different angles.
Try to compare your model using those picture.
I can tell you that I could really feel the difference by touching the pear scales and comparing to the walnut from the RangerWood.
Don't know, since I don't have any, if the EvoWood 85mm's had a different finish.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 31, 2014, 02:38:42 PM
Remember it's sure that wood scales are not directly manufactured by Wenger : all wood scales are subcontracted.

So it is possible that there are several subcontractors using Woods from several places, which could explain the differences of color and touch.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on January 31, 2014, 03:37:13 PM
Karl, if you got a pear EvoWood by mistake, great! The pear S14s seem so much rarer than the regular walnut ones. Can you take some photos in daylight and post larger versions of the pear suspect? I got some walnut EvoWoods myself that are very light tone but they won't be mistaken for pear wood. 

Here is one such lighter finished EvoWood of mine:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=61736;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on January 31, 2014, 05:59:21 PM
Karl, if you got a pear EvoWood by mistake, great! The pear S14s seem so much rarer than the regular walnut ones. Can you take some photos in daylight and post larger versions of the pear suspect? I got some walnut EvoWoods myself that are very light tone but they won't be mistaken for pear wood. 

Here is one such lighter finished EvoWood of mine:

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=61736;image)
Nice yellow craftsman :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 31, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
Have a look at this ebay auction.
http://www.ebay.at/itm/Jagdmesser-Gurtelmesser-Wenger-EVOWOOD-14-Nussbaum-Bogensport-Sammlermesser-Jagd-/261387503300?pt=Jagen&hash=item3cdbe8c6c4
Very light color, but definately walnut according to the catalog number from the box label.
But also the artificial light could have a great influence.
(http://cdn01.trixum.de/upload2/D/c/DckYNvaz6wKr136086565242P6224.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on January 31, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
Sap wood, heart wood. Same tree, big contrast in colour and grain!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on January 31, 2014, 09:33:04 PM
The vendor calls this walnut but describes it as "dunkel."

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Jagdmesser-Gurtelmesser-Wenger-EVOWOOD-14-Nussbaum-Bogensport-Sammlermesser-Jagd-/261387503300?pt=Jagen&hash=item3cdbe8c6c4#ht_5920wt_979

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 31, 2014, 10:20:23 PM
My understanding is that the EvoWood scales are made from scrape lumber. Prior to the info on the pear wood version showing up I was thinking that some scrape birch had accidentally gotten mixed in with the walnut. Since pear is being used to some extent I'm going to list it as 'pear(?)(light colored)' in my spread sheet. May not be correct, but at least it's descriptive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on February 01, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
Nice yellow craftsman :cheers:

 :cheers: I like it too. The Plus versions of these scales, with the shield on front and the pen slot, are even better.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 05, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
The Young Fisherman arrived.
I'll implement it later on the Sierra wiki page (which is really in need of an update).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 05, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
OH Very nice!!  :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 05, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Ho Yes, the little boy is so funny !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 05, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
Ho Yes, the little boy is so funny !

 :cheers:

Agreed, reminds me of a comic book. :D

Nice one. :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 05, 2014, 11:03:56 PM
Nice Young Fisherman! First I've seen.   :salute:

Has anyone come up with the Young Hunter?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 06, 2014, 01:40:52 AM
Thanks to the heads up by Basilio. I got my Evo 14 Pear Wood today and it's labeled essentially the same as Basilio shows in this image.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=116491;image)

While the main label does list 1 14 09 833, it has the description "EvoWood Poirier 14" which means EvoWood Pear Tree 14.  On the 1 side my box has the same sticker as shown with the German AN on it.

This wood looks very good.  Very high quality, but the contrast between the general surface and the engraved lettering really stands out, and makes it really sharp looking.  Maybe the Delemont group will help Vic make some really nice wood scales in the future.

These don't appear in the Wenger 2013 catalog from Switzerland, must have been a special run for the German distributor.  However, since the manufacture date on the boxes lists these as 2011 models, we might need to look at earlier catalogs.

Update: added a cell phone couch shot.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 06, 2014, 09:40:53 AM

These don't appear in the Wenger 2013 catalog from Switzerland, must have been a special run for the German distributor.  However, since the manufacture date on the boxes lists these as 2011 models, we might need to look at earlier catalogs.



I already did some researches on the knife.
It is not listed in the 2010 and 2012 european (from Switzerland) catalogs.
I don't have the 2011 one, so I can't tell for sure.
However, since the production date is from November 2011, I doubt that there could be any reference on the above 2011 catalog.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on February 06, 2014, 06:37:53 PM
Well, I'd say that some love did exist ... :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on February 06, 2014, 11:36:49 PM
Nice Young Fisherman! First I've seen.   :salute:

Has anyone come up with the Young Hunter?

Absolutely! Roger Remund w/the 108mm Jung Jaeger a few years ago.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 07, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
Nice Young Fisherman! First I've seen.   :salute:

Has anyone come up with the Young Hunter?

Absolutely! Roger Remund w/the 108mm Jung Jaeger a few years ago.

Hi,

Actually what I was talking about is an 85mm knife with packlock and a cartoon hunter similar to the fisherman shown above by Carlo. The Young Hunter shows up on page 3 of the 1983 Wenger catalog in the wiki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaydar on February 07, 2014, 02:33:29 PM
An oldie but I like it :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)

Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 07, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
An oldie but I like it :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)

Got picked it up so not cleaned yet

Ho very nice ! With the logo of "Coutellerie Suisse" and carbon steel blade (before 1919) !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sawman on February 07, 2014, 05:53:45 PM
An oldie but I like it :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)

Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
That's a beautiful specimen you have there  :drool:  It's in pretty great shape for its age.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 07, 2014, 07:08:41 PM
An oldie but I like it :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)

Got picked it up so not cleaned yet
That's a beautiful specimen you have there  :drool:  It's in pretty great shape for its age.

You know, you could restore it like a new one ! But it's not mandatory, lot of people prefer to keep them in the original condition.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 08, 2014, 08:40:32 AM
An oldie but I like it :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sSnllZdSh4M/UvTfSPRZz6I/AAAAAAAAGG4/Bp06R9yKfQI/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_120.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Da6kyT0yQFs/UvTfS3ZIcAI/AAAAAAAAGHE/pFxCUVV_MNc/w1313-h985-no/IMAGE_121.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LDw3Q0nOwHk6dzFbf0rShfDWkSwM4cLHL2k6uwiv6tw=w1313-h985-no)

Got picked it up so not cleaned yet

Interesting old knife. The handles look in great shape for their age.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 08, 2014, 09:59:46 AM
Nice one!
(not quoting again all the pictures  :P)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 08, 2014, 12:10:25 PM
Two Ranger with pruning blade. Ranger 73 Electrcian and Ranger 69

The Ranger 69 seems to be uncommon  ??? at least to me  ::)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvMxgnMm6Po/UvYO9BVORJI/AAAAAAAAJI0/EYtxbC3uVpc/s800/DSCN7408_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gz25jFx3KU0/UvYPA_aHpkI/AAAAAAAAJJI/P9_pXbHbCgw/s800/DSCN7380_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 08, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
:D

I guess this answers my question from the New SAK thread. ;) Yes, looks to be quite uncommon. Don't remember seeing it before.   :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 08, 2014, 03:26:03 PM
Nice find!
I think it is a new model for me, also.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 08, 2014, 08:11:53 PM
An oldie but I like it :)
Nice one!
(not quoting again all the pictures  :P)
+1 VERY nice one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 08, 2014, 08:13:25 PM
I really like that Ranger 69.   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2014, 06:55:19 PM
The Junior 06 (EvoGrip S18 with rounded tip blade) is available in Germany.  I only saw it there a couple of weeks ago, so I'm not sure if it's available directly in other markets.

 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 09, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
That's a new one to me. :think:

Identifier seems to be 15639311.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2014, 07:54:19 PM
That's a new one to me. :think:

Identifier seems to be 15639311.
I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Not new, but I'm happy to finally get a set, after collecting almost all the models individually.  The box has some wear, and the number is nothing special, but nice to have the set even if I had to over pay for it.

I don't see too many pictures of this one, so I took a quick shot.

"The Life" Series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 09, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
Quite tempted to get an evowood s557, any one care to give me a  :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on February 09, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
Quite tempted to get an evowood s557, any one care to give me a  :pok:

Here you go.   :pok:  :pok:  :pok: Go for it!  I have a standard S557, and it's a great SAK.  You won't de disappointed!  And if you are, it's Kirky's fault.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 09, 2014, 08:31:35 PM
They look really good, quite chunky but compact at the same time.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on February 09, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
They look really good, quite chunky but compact at the same time.

The 85mm frame does help with that.  I pocket carry mine, and have had no problems at all.  Very useful tool set too.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 09, 2014, 08:37:15 PM
That's a new one to me. :think:

Identifier seems to be 15639311.
I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.

Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 09, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
That's a new one to me. :think:

Identifier seems to be 15639311.
I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.

Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
I think it would be better if Junior series had 1 page, and the knives just linked to their non Junior versions, seems a waste and more complicated to make a whole page just because they rounded the tip of the blade.  That's really a variation as it does not add or remove any tools.  I like trying to simplify all these 'models'.  Of course if there is a Junior without a counterpart then it would get it's own page.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 09, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
That's a new one to me. :think:

Identifier seems to be 15639311.
I posted identifier on the wiki, off the top of my head that seems right.

Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:
I think it would be better if Junior series had 1 page, and the knives just linked to their non Junior versions, seems a waste and more complicated to make a whole page just because they rounded the tip of the blade.  That's really a variation as it does not add or remove any tools.  I like trying to simplify all these 'models'.  Of course if there is a Junior without a counterpart then it would get it's own page.

True for the simple models, but on something like the 18 it gets more complicated. We already have 7 versions there (12 variations ) on the evo alone, not counting Classic, Basic, Handyman, ... Just adding more to the same page gets confusing, hard to find and contraproductive. If you're new to SAKs and google search for a Wenger Junior 06 and get a link to some Evo 18, you won't even consider it. I think it's better to have more pages and link the similar ones than to overcrowd a single one. It's not like we have a lack of storage space in the wiki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on February 09, 2014, 11:35:47 PM
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2014, 01:22:30 AM
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
That's a good question.  Since they cover various frame sizes it's a bit more challenging, but you can see there is already a disagreement on Series so this could get tricky.

We could just extend, the Vic frame-sizes, or make them almost like a new brand.  Whatever we do might need to change over time as Vic changes how they classify these models.  I would start slow with a Delemont Series listing page, and see where Vic is going to take this line. 

Hopefully there will be a public catalog soon with a bit more precise information.  I notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the existing pages notes that digital manipulation is involved.  I'm just surprised what they showed at SHOT is not in the catalog, and the huge mistake on the Ranger reamers, the overlap in the blade and caplifter incorrect so they could show the stamp... obviously this was very rushed.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 10, 2014, 03:11:57 AM
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?

The Delemonts are basically an amalgamation of Wenger and Victorinox features. I'm planning to list them separately under that name in my spread sheet, to avoid confusion with the other two sets of knives, and to better keep track of which ones I have. Maybe we should do something similar in the wiki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 10, 2014, 10:37:53 AM
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?

The Delemonts are basically an amalgamation of Wenger and Victorinox features. I'm planning to list them separately under that name in my spread sheet, to avoid confusion with the other two sets of knives, and to better keep track of which ones I have. Maybe we should do something similar in the wiki.

Yes, I was discussing with Nikola about this, and I think that keeping the Delémont series separated would be the best solution.


Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:

I think that also the JuniorWood 11 should be added (it was shown on the Herbertz catalog posted few pages back).

True for the simple models, but on something like the 18 it gets more complicated. We already have 7 versions there (12 variations ) on the evo alone, not counting Classic, Basic, Handyman, ... Just adding more to the same page gets confusing, hard to find and contraproductive. If you're new to SAKs and google search for a Wenger Junior 06 and get a link to some Evo 18, you won't even consider it. I think it's better to have more pages and link the similar ones than to overcrowd a single one. It's not like we have a lack of storage space in the wiki.

I also think that the current wiki 85mm index layout is fine and that having different pages for specific series would be easier for the reader.
For sure it took a lot of work by quite few people to implement all the series (Junior, Classic, Basic, Security) and it would be a pity if they were removed.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 10, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
:cheers:

Yes, I'm for the separate index table for the Delémonts also. :salute: But maybe wait with till they start appearing so we have the real SAKs to base the pages on, the stock pictures are a bit ::) , too many mistakes.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 10, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Two Ranger with pruning blade. Ranger 73 Electrcian and Ranger 69

The Ranger 69 seems to be uncommon  ??? at least to me  ::)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HvMxgnMm6Po/UvYO9BVORJI/AAAAAAAAJI0/EYtxbC3uVpc/s800/DSCN7408_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gz25jFx3KU0/UvYPA_aHpkI/AAAAAAAAJJI/P9_pXbHbCgw/s800/DSCN7380_r.jpg)

Nice!!

I'm guessing the 69 is basically just the 73 without the plier layer.

May I ask where you got it from?

I emailed a Wenger shop, they have never heard of it - but I'm assuming it is indeed  a genuine factory model.

You're a lucky guy :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 10, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Two Ranger with pruning blade. Ranger 73 Electrcian and Ranger 69

The Ranger 69 seems to be uncommon  ??? at least to me  ::)



Nice!!

I'm guessing the 69 is basically just the 73 without the plier layer.

May I ask where you got it from?

I emailed a Wenger shop, they have never heard of it - but I'm assuming it is indeed  a genuine factory model.

You're a lucky guy :tu:

Thanks! See PM.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 10, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?
That's a good question.  Since they cover various frame sizes it's a bit more challenging, but you can see there is already a disagreement on Series so this could get tricky.

We could just extend, the Vic frame-sizes, or make them almost like a new brand.  Whatever we do might need to change over time as Vic changes how they classify these models.  I would start slow with a Delemont Series listing page, and see where Vic is going to take this line. 

Hopefully there will be a public catalog soon with a bit more precise information.  I notice the disclaimer on the bottom of the existing pages notes that digital manipulation is involved.  I'm just surprised what they showed at SHOT is not in the catalog, and the huge mistake on the Ranger reamers, the overlap in the blade and caplifter incorrect so they could show the stamp... obviously this was very rushed.

How should the Wiki handle the Delemont Collection? As a series under the Vic's?

The Delemonts are basically an amalgamation of Wenger and Victorinox features. I'm planning to list them separately under that name in my spread sheet, to avoid confusion with the other two sets of knives, and to better keep track of which ones I have. Maybe we should do something similar in the wiki.

Yes, I was discussing with Nikola about this, and I think that keeping the Delémont series separated would be the best solution.


Yes, that's it. We'll need a Page for it in the Junior series. I'll make one if no one beats me to it. :salute:

I think that also the JuniorWood 11 should be added (it was shown on the Herbertz catalog posted few pages back).

True for the simple models, but on something like the 18 it gets more complicated. We already have 7 versions there (12 variations ) on the evo alone, not counting Classic, Basic, Handyman, ... Just adding more to the same page gets confusing, hard to find and contraproductive. If you're new to SAKs and google search for a Wenger Junior 06 and get a link to some Evo 18, you won't even consider it. I think it's better to have more pages and link the similar ones than to overcrowd a single one. It's not like we have a lack of storage space in the wiki.

I also think that the current wiki 85mm index layout is fine and that having different pages for specific series would be easier for the reader.
For sure it took a lot of work by quite few people to implement all the series (Junior, Classic, Basic, Security) and it would be a pity if they were removed.
I have added a place holder in the Victorinox Menu on the right which I think reflects what most people think should be the initial organization, keeping the Delemont Collection as a special line.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 11, 2014, 10:25:16 AM
I have added a place holder in the Victorinox Menu on the right which I think reflects what most people think should be the initial organization, keeping the Delemont Collection as a special line.

I think it was a good idea.
Note that, while not used much on this forum, the Delémont name has the accent (') on the "e".
I think we should probably keep it on the wiki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 11, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Carlo/basilio sent me 7 Wenger catalogs in PDF (2005,2006,2007,2009,2010,2012 and Herbertz 2013) and they have now been uploaded and available on the Wenger catalogs page. ICFT also added some a few weeks ago. Lots of new info there now. Thanks, guys. :cheers:

They should be available for download for all registered wiki users. (There was a problem with permissions before) If you still don't have an account at the wiki this is a good reason to get one. ;) The security key is available per PM from either ICanFixThat, me or any of the moderators, we prefer not to post it in the open to avoid spammers. :salute:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Army+Knife+Catalogs
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 11, 2014, 09:38:32 PM
Nice I just added 2008 from Europe to the list
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 12, 2014, 02:24:38 AM
Thanks to everyone involved for posting the new catalogs. Lots of interesting data there!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 12, 2014, 11:00:30 AM
Nice I just added 2008 from Europe to the list

Yes, thanks.
I had the 2008 catalog, but I downloaded it from the mulitool-museum website, and it has watermarks on every page, so I couldn't upload it.
There is still a big "gap" on european catalogs from the mid 90's to 2004. Hope I will be able to find more of them in the future.
..... now if we could see your Precise 1990 catalog ..... :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 12, 2014, 12:55:47 PM
Evowood s557 arrived today. Here it is next to my older 10.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 12, 2014, 01:22:15 PM
Nice I just added 2008 from Europe to the list

Yes, thanks.
I had the 2008 catalog, but I downloaded it from the mulitool-museum website, and it has watermarks on every page, so I couldn't upload it.
There is still a big "gap" on european catalogs from the mid 90's to 2004. Hope I will be able to find more of them in the future.
..... now if we could see your Precise 1990 catalog ..... :whistle:
:salute:

It's coming; I have little time for SAKs right now and I have several Vic catalogs waiting also.  For Wenger I have 1990 and 1999 from NA in print that need scanning.  I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on February 13, 2014, 03:04:41 PM
Got mine yesterday. Very nicely done.

The pear wood is distinctly different from walnut, not just in grain but also in color and definitely cannot pass as a lighter tone walnut.

Photos spread over few posts due to the limit for the number of image attachments per post. Click on the thumbnails for the full size photos.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on February 13, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 13, 2014, 04:53:45 PM
Glad you like the pear model and congratulations for your wood(s) collection.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 13, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
Nice collection! :drool: really like the evowood, glad that Victorinox are keeping it going!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 13, 2014, 07:20:27 PM
Very, VERY nice comparison. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 13, 2014, 08:50:38 PM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.


Marius, I'm guessing 2 of those are from the united woods set??

Great line up  :tu:

EDIT

Doh, of course they are, you've stated that quite clearly!!  :facepalm:  :twak: :twak: tosh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 13, 2014, 09:46:30 PM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.

What's the model four in from the left? Three layers, middle layer inline Philips and wrench.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 13, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.

What's the model four in from the left? Three layers, middle layer inline Philips and wrench.

SAC Cyclist/EvoWood 35, a Swiss Alpine Club exclusive.

LINK TO SHOP (http://www.sac-cas.ch/en/shop.html?q=aHR0cDovL2ZqMTA1cDA0LnRyZW5kaG9zdGluZy5jaC9pbmRleC5waHAvY2x1Yi1zaG9wL2V2by13b29kLW1lc3Nlci1taXQtc2FjLWxvZ28uaHRtbA%3D%3D)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 13, 2014, 10:10:22 PM
  :tu: didn't think I'd seen it before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on February 13, 2014, 10:40:18 PM
Yes, that's the one. There is also a RangerWood 161 in series with the same SAC crest and also the 150 years anniversary logo.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 13, 2014, 10:48:06 PM
Great collection of Evowoods!  :tu:

My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 13, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Great collection of Evowoods!  :tu:

My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)
Looks like olive wood.  My evowood 10 is very dark, the s557 is very light, I think that they stopped staining the wood, the s557 also had a rough finish. This is the early sales description:
The handles for each of these pocketknives are constructed from sustainable top quality walnut using what would otherwise be waste material from other production processes. The natural walnut, which is durable for light outdoor use, is colored in a rich dark stain to create individual shades and grain patterns in each knife, making every product a one- off.   
No stain on my s557?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Marius on February 13, 2014, 11:25:21 PM
Great collection of Evowoods!  :tu:

My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)

Third one from the right of the photo is the one in Olive wood from United Woods.

:cheers:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on February 13, 2014, 11:27:14 PM
Quite tempted to get an evowood s557, any one care to give me a  :pok:

Here you go.   :pok:  :pok:  :pok: Go for it!  I have a standard S557, and it's a great SAK.  You won't de disappointed!  And if you are, it's Kirky's fault.....

Why? Because I carry one most days at work? >:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 13, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
Is any body who know these 2 knives ?

It seems they are not referenced on the Wiki nor in wenger catalogs...

This one :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1a.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2a.JPG)



And this one:
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1b.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2b.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 14, 2014, 12:28:45 AM
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:

Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 14, 2014, 12:38:04 AM
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:

Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?

No, the first one has not a locking bottle opener (and no patented), so I think it's early 1982
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 14, 2014, 12:44:35 AM
A quick comparo with other 85mm EvoWoods. The pear is at the top left of the photos. United Woods and SAC present as well.
Amazing beautiful EvoWood collection.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 14, 2014, 12:49:44 AM
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:

Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?

No, the first one has not a locking bottle opener (and no patented), so I think it's early 1982
Very nice models. I sure would have liked if they had produced more of these. Such great obvious configurations you would think we would see more of these.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 14, 2014, 12:56:03 AM
Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.

I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.



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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 14, 2014, 01:02:49 AM
Here's that old thread from when you got it. --> Just got a old Wenger (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=42545.0)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 14, 2014, 01:51:01 AM
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve.  :pok:  :D


Its Mr. Spaulding to you!  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2014, 02:34:13 AM
Is any body who know these 2 knives ?

It seems they are not referenced on the Wiki nor in wenger catalogs...

This one :
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1a.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2a.JPG)



And this one:
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-1b.JPG)
(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/à identifier-2b.JPG)

No info on the first one.  The second has a catalog number of 1 17 13. No other info.

Nice finds!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2014, 02:47:40 AM
Great collection of Evowoods!  :tu:

My light colored one doesn't look like that pear wood. Maybe it is an odd shade of walnut; or maybe they're using anything handy. Its an Evowood 14; what is your light colored one? (third from right)

Third one from the right of the photo is the one in Olive wood from United Woods.

:cheers:

Thanks for the info.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2014, 02:49:01 AM
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve.  :pok:  :D


Its Mr. Spaulding to you!  :P

You should see what he calls you when you're not around!  :sa:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 14, 2014, 02:57:26 AM
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve.  :pok:  :D


Its Mr. Spaulding to you!  :P

You should see what he calls you when you're not around!  :sa:

Oh great now i'm paranoid!  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 14, 2014, 03:40:11 AM
Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.

I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.

....

That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread.  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 14, 2014, 03:56:47 AM
Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.

I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.

....

That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread.  :drool:


Thanks. I got it from some guy off craigslist. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I want to say it was $20 or $25.  :tu: I will probably never get rid of it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 14, 2014, 04:29:27 AM
Haven't pulled this old Wenger out in a while.

I remember I started a thread on it, but don't remember what was said besides it is a bit rare and probably from around the 50's (i think). Any and all info including a value would be great! Thanks everyone.

....

That's a great Knife. I missed it some how in the original thread.  :drool:


Thanks. I got it from some guy off craigslist. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I want to say it was $20 or $25.  :tu: I will probably never get rid of it.
That's a keeper for sure.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 14, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
Thanks enki. Now I remember the thread. Thats when you called me Steve.  :pok:  :D


Its Mr. Spaulding to you!  :P

You should see what he calls you when you're not around!  :sa:

Oh great now i'm paranoid!  :P

>:D

:sailor:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 14, 2014, 11:58:51 PM
I need to put that little captain emoticon in my sig line!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on February 15, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
Those are some nice 17 variations. :cheers:

Can't provide you with more info on them sadly. But I do have a question. Does the first one with the 2D phillips have a locking bottle opener? Maybe early 1980's?

I have a few examples of the first knife, but minus the saw. Mine have locking main blades (fully and partially serrated, and plain edge), and locking cap lifters/flat screwdrivers. Mine make IMO a perfect edc knife: they do everything an Explorer does (minus the magnifier, and lose weight from no hook ;)), but are so much smaller and lighter. The locking features are a real bonus too. I have them in red and black scales, also Eddie Bauer imprinted.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 15, 2014, 03:48:52 PM
Wenger Alox Soldier and Butane Lighter.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 15, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
Don't remember seeing that lighter before. Very 8) combo. :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaydar on February 15, 2014, 06:05:31 PM
An wenger old boy I found today ... the build quality is stunning the main blade is 4mm thick at the tang

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/lRhCFo1nrKMk6YNX9aq6skLiDhBQZmynF2PXy2kc1bo=w924-h693-no)

The point has gone but I can sort that

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LOVMQzWyzgQ/Uv-ZZnI0-NI/AAAAAAAAGIw/NlQrcOJcSsk/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_130.jpg)

The patina is perfect :)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_A3phwjGZzU/Uv-ZaxThiLI/AAAAAAAAGI8/IJmgjhklEtA/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_131.jpg)

Big an small blade are stamped

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yuvZYRU7w5k/Uv-ZcXm_ntI/AAAAAAAAGJA/E5_v72b-4iQ/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_132.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Vwsf7IfHfGM/Uv-ZdoDEVvI/AAAAAAAAGJI/EeDZyqUOHQo/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_133.jpg)

The third blade is a nail file which you will need after trying to open this thing as for closing it snaps shut like a rat trap :) but that will be the always popular two backsprings are better than one option :)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WHqyS-Fy1YY/Uv-Z_4kBCZI/AAAAAAAAGJY/hexy93aZy84/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_135.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zk2aSKqxTlw/Uv-aBmBDMKI/AAAAAAAAGJg/jUXBpGVPrLg/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_136.jpg)


It may not look much but it is a stunner :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 15, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Very nice old Wenger ! You should restore it...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 15, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
An wenger old boy I found today ... the build quality is stunning the main blade is 4mm thick at the tang

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/lRhCFo1nrKMk6YNX9aq6skLiDhBQZmynF2PXy2kc1bo=w924-h693-no)

The point has gone but I can sort that

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LOVMQzWyzgQ/Uv-ZZnI0-NI/AAAAAAAAGIw/NlQrcOJcSsk/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_130.jpg)

The patina is perfect :)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_A3phwjGZzU/Uv-ZaxThiLI/AAAAAAAAGI8/IJmgjhklEtA/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_131.jpg)

Big an small blade are stamped

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yuvZYRU7w5k/Uv-ZcXm_ntI/AAAAAAAAGJA/E5_v72b-4iQ/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_132.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Vwsf7IfHfGM/Uv-ZdoDEVvI/AAAAAAAAGJI/EeDZyqUOHQo/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_133.jpg)

The third blade is a nail file which you will need after trying to open this thing as for closing it snaps shut like a rat trap :) but that will be the always popular two backsprings are better than one option :)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WHqyS-Fy1YY/Uv-Z_4kBCZI/AAAAAAAAGJY/hexy93aZy84/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_135.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Zk2aSKqxTlw/Uv-aBmBDMKI/AAAAAAAAGJg/jUXBpGVPrLg/w922-h1229-no/IMAGE_136.jpg)


It may not look much but it is a stunner :)
You really do find some old treasures. I'd leave this one as it is, as you say 'the patina is perfect' :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 15, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
That old Wenger is very  8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaydar on February 16, 2014, 12:28:26 AM
You really do find some old treasures. I'd leave this one as it is, as you say 'the patina is perfect' :tu:

Mmmm I agree but the point was annoying me so I went for a quick clean with soap and water and improved the point a little

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GjxI8ketakM/Uv_2tGl0DFI/AAAAAAAAGKA/KLLcjpQsFRc/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_137.jpg)

the inside was nasty :)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7pCCe8QCerw/Uv_2uWA9qeI/AAAAAAAAGKI/IGgtDWU7k4E/w924-h693-no/IMAGE_138.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 17, 2014, 11:16:40 AM
Good work on the point :tu: 
With regards to the Evowood collection, Pear is a much stronger wood than Walnut, much closer grain. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on February 18, 2014, 12:47:45 AM
Must have  :whistle: :D
(http://s7.postimg.org/tqms1uq17/image.jpg)
side
(http://s15.postimg.org/lel55n3yj/image.jpg)
tools …
(http://s2.postimg.org/eclyq0svt/image.jpg)
there is something ...
(http://s9.postimg.org/6mbgsdj9b/image.jpg)
clip
(http://s15.postimg.org/kg4s3cqmj/image.jpg)
alike
(http://s30.postimg.org/6cq2w89jl/image.jpg)
t & t
(http://s17.postimg.org/3yw114127/image.jpg)
jaws
(http://s8.postimg.org/z3o7f3ppx/image.jpg)
EvoGrip™ Swiss Clipper
(http://s27.postimg.org/pgi2dzk1f/image.jpg)
 :climber:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 21, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
I saw that the wiki page was recently edited with the Pear wood model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+14
But are the informations about the French market confirmed?
I also think that 2011 was the year of production, not the unit number.
I'm not criticizing, just asking because I couldn't find more informations apart from the entry in the Herbertz catalog.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 21, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557.  Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 21, 2014, 07:01:33 PM
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557.  Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:
Nice collection.
I don't understand if the two Walnut EvoWoods were stock knives, or if you did something to them
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 21, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
I think wenger stopped staining the knives to cut costs. Early sales pitches claimed that each knife was individually stained to give unique character.  The 10 is older and has been used a lot, darkening slightly.  The finish on the s557 is effectively raw wood, the 10 was a lot smoother due to the staining process.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 22, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
I saw that the wiki page was recently edited with the Pear wood model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+14
But are the informations about the French market confirmed?
I also think that 2011 was the year of production, not the unit number.
I'm not criticizing, just asking because I couldn't find more informations apart from the entry in the Herbertz catalog.
The writing is not that clear; I think Marduk was try to say that in 2011 (i.e. 'the 2011 models') were made for the French market, and then later made available in Germany.  He was not saying 2011 was the unit number of the knife.  We'll let him clarify, and fix up the page.  It would be interesting to know where he got the information on the French market, but it makes sense so I'm inclined to think it's good info at this point.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 22, 2014, 09:33:33 AM
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557.  Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:

Sorry guys, the pear evowood is 14 not 17, my mistake! Did they only do the 14 in pear?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 24, 2014, 10:25:15 AM
Dark stained walnut 10, middle is pear 17, natural unstained walnut s557.  Fancy getting the 14 after pay day :tu:

Sorry guys, the pear evowood is 14 not 17, my mistake! Did they only do the 14 in pear?

As far as I know yes, only the 14.

I saw that the wiki page was recently edited with the Pear wood model
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+14
But are the informations about the French market confirmed?
I also think that 2011 was the year of production, not the unit number.
I'm not criticizing, just asking because I couldn't find more informations apart from the entry in the Herbertz catalog.
The writing is not that clear; I think Marduk was try to say that in 2011 (i.e. 'the 2011 models') were made for the French market, and then later made available in Germany.  He was not saying 2011 was the unit number of the knife.  We'll let him clarify, and fix up the page.  It would be interesting to know where he got the information on the French market, but it makes sense so I'm inclined to think it's good info at this point.

I think I probably understood (or I'm just guessing) where the "French market" information was taken from.
The only website listing the knife is this
http://www.proidee.fr/concept-store/rubriques-categories/outils-securite/couteau-suisse-evo-wood
Where you can read "Exclusivement chez Pro-Idée".
However, the Pro-Idée company is german, not french, as shown here in the "Identité" section
http://www.proidee.fr/a-propos-de-pro-idee?HI=abbinder
I really hope that Marduk will clarify this, as I have the feeling this knife was a german exclusive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on February 24, 2014, 07:51:26 PM
As noted, 2011 meant year, not model. I corrected the wiki. Sorry for my sloppy entry.

As for the French market, I have seen several boxes w/the EvoWood 14 Pear wood. They all desribe the model as "Poirier" on the lid. This appears on boxes sold on German internet sites. Since Germany is the next largest market outside North America, why did Wenger print the knife's description in French, not German unless it was originally intended for France.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 24, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
As noted, 2011 meant year, not model. I corrected the wiki. Sorry for my sloppy entry.

As for the French market, I have seen several boxes w/the EvoWood 14 Pear wood. They all desribe the model as "Poirier" on the lid. This appears on boxes sold on German internet sites. Since Germany is the next largest market outside North America, why did Wenger print the knife's description in French, not German unless it was originally intended for France.

Hey, it is not a problem and I'm really glad you are helping with the wiki!
As for the label in french, I personally think it is not indicative of a specific market.
Wenger did it many times, for knives that were not specifically sold in France.
Like on the 557 Exclusivities, listed in french on the label (Exclusivités)
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=12&sort_mode=imageId_desc&imageId=2843&scalesize=o
or with the SAC knives, listed in french as CAS (Club Alpine Suisse), not as SAC
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=32456.msg813277#msg813277
I think it has more to do with the Jura french speaking Canton.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on February 24, 2014, 09:16:44 PM
Carlo--You may very well be right. The wiki is not a place for assumptions, but for facts. And a few examples are not enough to draw definitive conclusions. I have amended the wiki. Does anyone know anything else about the this model? Has anyone seen it on any national markets other than France & Germany? Why are the boxes dated 2011? Anyone seen any dated later or earlier? We would like to hear from as many as possible of those who have purchases these Pear wood models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 25, 2014, 12:00:54 AM
Lithos - Sardo Bianco
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vwkvR_0Ojdo/UwvNov8bxqI/AAAAAAAAJQw/GlvH3anJ9Wg/s800/DSCN7794_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dkchbPjDjqY/UwvNo4IWApI/AAAAAAAAJQ0/FAEEVruz6QI/s800/DSCN8103_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bS0r0aoFlfg/UwvNuqpaTZI/AAAAAAAAJRM/HBUG5WYjqrA/s800/DSCN8114_r.jpg)


Lithos - Blue Bahia
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ad0KBcdixjU/UwvNpZdCyHI/AAAAAAAAJQ4/NexT9pGGxjw/s800/DSCN7798_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-thrjutodfoc/UwvNuQZBivI/AAAAAAAAJRE/yi57ezYIPSg/s800/DSCN8111_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AfrQmLM0Zus/UwvNuvaTbOI/AAAAAAAAJRQ/e9Ah80Pl1_4/s800/DSCN8115_r.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 25, 2014, 12:36:05 AM
Carlo--You may very well be right. The wiki is not a place for assumptions, but for facts. And a few examples are not enough to draw definitive conclusions. I have amended the wiki. Does anyone know anything else about the this model? Has anyone seen it on any national markets other than France & Germany? Why are the boxes dated 2011? Anyone seen any dated later or earlier? We would like to hear from as many as possible of those who have purchases these Pear wood models.
Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 25, 2014, 01:25:07 AM
Martin,

Beautiful Lithos!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 25, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Martin,

Beautiful Lithos!  :tu:

Yes, very nice knives!


Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
On mine example the date can be barely seen under the german label
(http://i.imgur.com/CIR9MtF.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 25, 2014, 09:43:11 PM
Excellent pictures of very nice additions, Martin. May we borrow them for the wiki? (You knew I'd ask that. ;) )
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Philby on February 25, 2014, 11:39:08 PM
Martin,

Beautiful Lithos!  :tu:

Yes, very nice knives!


Mine says Poirier on the box, was bought from German Amazon, where is the date found?
On mine example the date can be barely seen under the german label
(http://i.imgur.com/CIR9MtF.jpg)
Had to peel the label back, also 2011.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 25, 2014, 11:40:14 PM
Excellent pictures of very nice additions, Martin. May we borrow them for the wiki? (You knew I'd ask that. ;) )

Yes, no problem.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 26, 2014, 02:21:50 PM
Super score on the Lithos! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twiliter on February 26, 2014, 02:44:06 PM
Must have  :whistle: :D
EvoGrip™ Swiss Clipper

+1

Good to see there will be a Delémont version, best clipper I ever had. It lives on my travel bag and a little beat up, but some love there for sure. Mine is AT version so I always have it.  :tu:

(have to apologize again for my really poor iPad camera)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 27, 2014, 04:19:27 AM
Something for the Wenger series in the wiki:


Savana

The Savanas are one of Wenger's Star series of premium knives. There are three knives in the series, and they feature horn handles. The different models don't have names, only numbers.

1 92 80 (Esquire)
1 92 81 (Commander)
1 92 82 (Traveler)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 27, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Something for the Wenger series in the wiki:
...

OK like this? http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Savana
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: papercut on February 27, 2014, 01:58:15 PM
Just picked up a few Wenger Wood 02s. They seem to models that will not be carried over.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 27, 2014, 11:34:12 PM
Something for the Wenger series in the wiki:
...

OK like this? http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Savana

Looks good.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Coert on March 03, 2014, 02:04:22 PM
Picked up a used Wenger Classic 17 from an online auction.  Very good condition. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 05, 2014, 10:29:46 PM
Must have  :whistle: :D
EvoGrip™ Swiss Clipper

+1

Good to see there will be a Delémont version, best clipper I ever had. It lives on my travel bag and a little beat up, but some love there for sure. Mine is AT version so I always have it.  :tu:

(have to apologize again for my really poor iPad camera)
I totally agree :2tu: For that very reason I was saying "must-have"  :whistle: :D
You have great piece of ntsa-proof version there :D  :tu:
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: RamoN on March 06, 2014, 12:20:39 AM
Big wenger showing some love carrying around its newer little brother  :D


(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/disployer/DSC_0364_zpscd3c8ae9.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/disployer/media/DSC_0364_zpscd3c8ae9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: D. Somerset on March 08, 2014, 01:41:39 AM
I recently got a hold of the "elusive" Rangergrip 88 rescue, and it is impressive. I have a Victorniox Workchamp XL, and this thing is even more imposing (though thankfully narrower). The only thing I'd change on this one, is the thickness of the scales. They make the knife unnecessarily thick.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: RamoN on March 08, 2014, 01:43:44 AM
How much did you pay for it if i may ask? i would love to get my hands on one of those, some day ill have all the rangergrips and be broke but happy  :D

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: D. Somerset on March 08, 2014, 03:29:58 AM
I ordered it from this place in the Czech Republic http://outdoor.online-sport.cz/noze-wenger/rangergrip-serie/wenger-rangergrip-88-rescue/ (the communication and transaction with them was excellent). I paid a total of $146 with shipping (the shipping hiked up the price a bit. It was around $20-$25), though the price has gone up and down quite a lot since I bought it. It was by far the cheapest place I could find, though right after my purchase the price went up. As I write this I checked again, and it's gone down to (almost) what I paid for it. I was tempted to get the rangergrip 90, because well, it's just easier to get, but the lack of the screwdriver/cap lifter, and half-sized metal saw/file made me wait for the 88. Hope this helps.


PS: Si tienes alguna otra duda ó pregunta mándame un mensaje.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ulli on March 08, 2014, 09:15:17 AM
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)

Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Sneider on March 08, 2014, 12:57:29 PM
Today at a flea market: I have buy a dark blue wenger alox with Ciba geigy etching. (old name of Novartis)

for 1 CHF !                (thats $ 0.90)  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on March 08, 2014, 01:11:39 PM
George V would have been George the 5th, King of England at the time of WW1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_V
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: RamoN on March 08, 2014, 01:18:41 PM
I ordered it from this place in the Czech Republic http://outdoor.online-sport.cz/noze-wenger/rangergrip-serie/wenger-rangergrip-88-rescue/ (the communication and transaction with them was excellent). I paid a total of $146 with shipping (the shipping hiked up the price a bit. It was around $20-$25), though the price has gone up and down quite a lot since I bought it. It was by far the cheapest place I could find, though right after my purchase the price went up. As I write this I checked again, and it's gone down to (almost) what I paid for it. I was tempted to get the rangergrip 90, because well, it's just easier to get, but the lack of the screwdriver/cap lifter, and half-sized metal saw/file made me wait for the 88. Hope this helps.


PS: Si tienes alguna otra duda ó pregunta mándame un mensaje.

Muchas gracias  :tu:

Thats what i paid with shipping for my ranger 90 so you got a nice price for it. I can tell you, just so you know, the short file might be short but works great, i have cut and filed many metal things with it, its more comfortable to use than it seems and still looks new, never tried the large one though.

That store has a really nice stock, if things in my country get any better (we have a lot of restrictions for buying things outside now) ill might ask you for help contacting them since i couldnt understand half a word there  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaydar on March 08, 2014, 10:38:44 PM
Nice Wenger Professional 1.71.21 in Blue for a change :)

Blade stamped 81

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kJ8OAtlENR4/UxuIf7wLxuI/AAAAAAAAGZ4/lky9FG3jV0Y/s800/IMAGE_168.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q8diQuY5Nwk/UxuIiBDJlaI/AAAAAAAAGYs/V7iHpVr7oYs/s1024/IMAGE_169.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUyTLSiaMJw/UxuIklXv8QI/AAAAAAAAGaA/B4HgGCRou1E/s800/IMAGE_170.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E6yv_Qch5jk/UxuImoYpMwI/AAAAAAAAGY8/E4R7qVH7WfY/s800/IMAGE_171.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 08, 2014, 11:39:52 PM
Nice Wenger Professional 1.71.21 in Blue for a change :)

Blade stamped 81

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kJ8OAtlENR4/UxuIf7wLxuI/AAAAAAAAGZ4/lky9FG3jV0Y/s800/IMAGE_168.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q8diQuY5Nwk/UxuIiBDJlaI/AAAAAAAAGYs/V7iHpVr7oYs/s1024/IMAGE_169.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUyTLSiaMJw/UxuIklXv8QI/AAAAAAAAGaA/B4HgGCRou1E/s800/IMAGE_170.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E6yv_Qch5jk/UxuImoYpMwI/AAAAAAAAGY8/E4R7qVH7WfY/s800/IMAGE_171.jpg)

Don't think I've seen one in anything but red. Nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 08, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)

Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.

Nice find! At a guess the one in the middle might be Georges Clemenceau, president of France.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on March 09, 2014, 12:36:24 AM
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)

Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.

Nice find! At a guess the one in the middle might be Georges Clemenceau, president of France.

Actually I think it's Raymond Poincare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Poincar%C3%A9).  Whoever it is, that's a neat knife for sure.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 09, 2014, 02:17:47 AM
Here`s a patriotic wenger knife from WWI.

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-GROA8YBI.jpg)

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-VQAPP8AV.jpg)

Could someone tell me who the guys are on the scale? One is marked with George V, the guy on the right could be nikolaus II.

Nice find! At a guess the one in the middle might be Georges Clemenceau, president of France.

Actually I think it's Raymond Poincare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Poincar%C3%A9).  Whoever it is, that's a neat knife for sure.  :tu:

Think you might be right.

Any ideas on the one on the reverse? Don't think its Kitchener.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on March 09, 2014, 02:58:35 AM

Any ideas on the one on the reverse? Don't think its Kitchener.

Victor Emmanuel III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Emmanuel_III_of_Italy) perhaps?  :think:  Would make sense with the 1915 date on the scale, that's when Italy joined the war on the Allied side.  It's definitely not Kitchener.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 09, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
Nice Wenger Professional 1.71.21 in Blue for a change :)

Blade stamped 81

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kJ8OAtlENR4/UxuIf7wLxuI/AAAAAAAAGZ4/lky9FG3jV0Y/s800/IMAGE_168.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q8diQuY5Nwk/UxuIiBDJlaI/AAAAAAAAGYs/V7iHpVr7oYs/s1024/IMAGE_169.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUyTLSiaMJw/UxuIklXv8QI/AAAAAAAAGaA/B4HgGCRou1E/s800/IMAGE_170.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E6yv_Qch5jk/UxuImoYpMwI/AAAAAAAAGY8/E4R7qVH7WfY/s800/IMAGE_171.jpg)

Don't think I've seen one in anything but red. Nice!

Agreed, that's an interesting find. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 09, 2014, 02:15:52 PM
I recently got a hold of the "elusive" Rangergrip 88 rescue, and it is impressive. I have a Victorniox Workchamp XL, and this thing is even more imposing (though thankfully narrower). The only thing I'd change on this one, is the thickness of the scales. They make the knife unnecessarily thick.
Much love ...  :D
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=118989;image)
 :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on March 09, 2014, 09:39:53 PM
Nice knives everyone!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: D. Somerset on March 10, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
I recently got a hold of the "elusive" Rangergrip 88 rescue, and it is impressive. I have a Victorniox Workchamp XL, and this thing is even more imposing (though thankfully narrower). The only thing I'd change on this one, is the thickness of the scales. They make the knife unnecessarily thick.
Much love ...  :D
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=118989;image)
 :drool:

It is quite a beast . . .  8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 10, 2014, 11:18:47 PM
Nice knives everyone!
+1  Some very interesting new finds!   :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 11, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
Hi, firends.
Here my last knifes. The first knife is made by means of a known Russian forum of guns.ru,
prepared a series of knifes with a farewell inscription of "Le demier de Wenger" (Farewell, Wenger)
It was possible to choose any wenger model and then the engraving became.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 11, 2014, 11:01:18 AM
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 11, 2014, 11:05:51 AM
Last purchases of Limited Edition wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 11, 2014, 07:14:36 PM
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)

Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:

I added the model number from your box to the wiki page of the Premier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bmot on March 12, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)

Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:

I added the model number from your box to the wiki page of the Premier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier


Is that one of the Delemont collection or something? I mean, with Vic T&T and combotool...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 12, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Excuse me, I use the automatic translator.
Probably I understood not correctly. I looked at my collection of knifes of wenger. I collect wenger knifes with all tools which they released. I want to assemble all tools that is in Wenger Giant
Here that was
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 12, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
I looked at the collection and I found that there is no Wenger knife at me with Combo Tool. It was necessary to buy Wenger Classic (6.54.01)

Nice ones, Gim. :cheers:

I added the model number from your box to the wiki page of the Premier.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Premier)


Is that one of the Delemont collection or something? I mean, with Vic T&T and combotool...

It is a Wenger made Bantam. There is history on it in the wiki page I linked to an the SwissArmyKnights article at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 13, 2014, 02:38:51 PM
For future reference:
Wenger-in-a-can or "The Swiss Personal® Container"
more pictures posted here
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51025.new#new
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: M0rkoni on March 18, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
Haven't pulled this old boy out in a while.

I've just start the following topic: Vintage SAK Owners Club so just refer to this link:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51152.0
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kkokkolis on March 25, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/e5amunyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/3eqa2e4y.jpg)
A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 25, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
...
A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.

So you were traveling from Greece to Sarajevo via Munich? :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bmot on March 25, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
...
A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.

So you were traveling from Greece to Sarajevo via Munich? :ahhh


That's... a bit of a detour :p
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on March 25, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/e5amunyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/25/3eqa2e4y.jpg)
A Wenger stand in the Munich airport on my road to Sarajevo.

 :ahhh They stole my Wenger cabinet!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kkokkolis on March 25, 2014, 05:15:43 PM
Yes. And I'm going back through Vienna.
The stand states that these knives (same as Vic Classics, I'm not very familiar with Wenger nomenclature) are permitted in flight. I had my Minichamp in the suitcase, with all the portable arsenal.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gadget on March 25, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
I'm not sure if I love it but I have carried my Highlander every day for a few weeks now, it's a handy size, well made and has a philips screwdriver instead of an almost useless cork-screw!
The only other Wenger I have is a 1949 marked M1908 (and about 15 Vics)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/milorgman/General/2014-03-19094438-1_zps9aaf1ed7.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/milorgman/media/General/2014-03-19094438-1_zps9aaf1ed7.jpg.html)

cheers,

-John
:tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 26, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
Hello,
today I found a Evo 63 Blackout SoftTouch in a local shop.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2876)
Is (or was) this model really exclusive to the Australian market?
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree
The shop owner told me he had three (this was the last one) and that he came across them way before the Blackout models (with EvoGrip scales) were available.

I did some more research about the above knife (Blackout 63 Soft Touch), and the results are as follows:
1) identifier is 1.63.242.814
2) it was for sure a limited edition
3) it was not australian exclusive (I found many references about the knife been sold in Europe as well as Japan, and possibly other countries)
I think that the "australian exclusive" information came from this discussion
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=19083.0
Main difference with the standard Evogrip 63 Blackout are not only the scales but also the toothpic and tweezers (which are not black coated on the Soft Touch model).
Sorry for the missing picture, but all the wiki images seem messed up at the moment.
Anyone has different informations?
If not I'll edit the wiki after few days.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 26, 2014, 08:20:10 PM
The wiki pictures work fine for me. :think:

Thanks for the legwork on this one. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 26, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
On the excusivity of the Wenger 63 PVD/Blackout I'm inclined to believe it was originally exclusive to AU, as I was active at the time and there were no where to be found and they we priced at $500 or something like that in AU, they were billed as something very special.  I suspect after Wenger could not move all the stock at that price they moved some to other markets. sort of like in the US where certain dealers get to liquidate clearly limited exclusive models like the SMKW models being sold by other sellers.  That's my belief at this time anyway.  Also check that it's really PVD version.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 27, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
The wiki pictures work fine for me. :think:


Now they are working, but this morning all the wiki pictures were not loading.

  Also check that it's really PVD version.

Are you referring to the scales or the identifier? ???
Because I can tell you that the scales are exactly the same as the Soft Touch models.
I forgot to mention that all the models I saw (mine included) are missing the keyring.
Some additional pictures can be found on the stressmaster blog
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2013/07/wenger-evo-soft-touch-63-blackout.html
and expecially have a look at this discussion on this german forum (about half way)
http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?79010-Wenger-Soft-Touch-schwarze-Klinge
Apparently the picture shown there was taken from a shop in Switzerland (if I understood correctly).
That german topic dates back to 2009!!!!
Mine came in a metal box exactly as the one shown above.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 27, 2014, 12:15:46 AM
The wiki pictures work fine for me. :think:


Now they are working, but this morning all the wiki pictures were not loading.

  Also check that it's really PVD version.

Are you referring to the scales or the identifier? ???
Because I can tell you that the scales are exactly the same as the Soft Touch models.
I forgot to mention that all the models I saw (mine included) are missing the keyring.
Some additional pictures can be found on the stressmaster blog
http://sakfan.blogspot.it/2013/07/wenger-evo-soft-touch-63-blackout.html
and expecially have a look at this discussion on this german forum (about half way)
http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?79010-Wenger-Soft-Touch-schwarze-Klinge
Apparently the picture shown there was taken from a shop in Switzerland (if I understood correctly).
That german topic dates back to 2009!!!!
Mine came in a metal box exactly as the one shown above.
PVD refers to the process used to coat the blades.  I also remember the Australian distributor and dealers claiming they were exclusive.  I'll look at the links you provided.   If the keyring changes they may technically be a different model.  It could also be like many models... only exclusive for  short time, but this was a very expensive knife in AU.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 27, 2014, 11:23:38 AM
Ok, I think I probably deserve a medal for this   :D
Went through a tons of cached web pages on Wenger Australia website, and here are the result

Original web page from 2009

(http://i.imgur.com/cyN1tBq.jpg)

and, even more interesting, copy of the knife press release

(http://i.imgur.com/TkzAUTS.jpg)

Note that the production run was limited to 275 units in Australia, not for Australia.
However, the knife above has both an additional different catalog number (1.063.249.814X) and the keyring.
On both version toothpic and tweezers are not black coated.
My conclusion is that this knife was a limited edition sold both in Australia and other countries (but not in North America) at around the same time (2009).
Models sold in Europe and Japan were missing the keyring and had a different identifier (1.063.242.814).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 27, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
Nice detective work. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 27, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
Ok, I think I probably deserve a medal for this   :D
(http://www.glurb.com/local/images/smilies/winner.gif)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 27, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
Ok, I think I probably deserve a medal for this   :D
Went through a tons of cached web pages on Wenger Australia website, and here are the result

Original web page from 2009

...
:salute: 

That is very good detective work, but haven't you established also that they are different knives?  Sorry if I missed it do you know that the knives in other parts of Europe were available around the same time, or could it be they simply took the recent PVD model that has no keyring and black scale implements and just changed the scales for some places in Europe?

I guess it does not really matter, if what you are saying is that you can get a Black Evo 63 with soft-touch scales that's pretty darn close to the Australian exclusive. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 28, 2014, 12:42:57 AM
This Wenger's beauty has it's own place in a special jacket ("just in case" :D ) that hasn't been used, so it had a pocket time, but not carried recently :D
Took it out yesterday for a kinda funny corkscrew photo session, and then decided that today will be its day, and it was, of course. When I came home was also call "on duty" with a package & some precision tiny plastic cut, so it deserved its own photo session too :ahhh :D

Wenger Evolution s10
(http://s16.postimg.org/6fgogxymt/image.jpg)
  :think:
(http://s27.postimg.org/5ld57kjir/image.jpg)
 :tu:
(http://s27.postimg.org/md324295f/image.jpg)
 ;)
(http://s29.postimg.org/irprs4ivr/image.jpg)
 :o
(http://s3.postimg.org/npoiz61v7/image.jpg)
 :gimme:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 28, 2014, 09:35:52 AM

That is very good detective work, but haven't you established also that they are different knives?  Sorry if I missed it do you know that the knives in other parts of Europe were available around the same time, or could it be they simply took the recent PVD model that has no keyring and black scale implements and just changed the scales for some places in Europe?

I guess it does not really matter, if what you are saying is that you can get a Black Evo 63 with soft-touch scales that's pretty darn close to the Australian exclusive.

Francis,
I wish I was able to answer all your points, but all the informations I was able to collect are pretty much included in the messages above.
For sure there are two different versions of the knife, one with keyring and one without.
I can now confirm this, since I found the australian web pages posted above and the different catalog number.
I don't think, however, that
"they simply took the recent PVD model that has no keyring and black scale implements and just changed the scales for some places in Europe", if you were referring to the 2012 model (the recent one, with black evogrip scales (not soft touch)).
This for two reasons:
1) the picture shown here
http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?79010-Wenger-Soft-Touch-schwarze-Klinge
which was taken not later than 2009, and shows exactly the knife we are discussing with a price tag in swiss francs. This was 3 years before the introduction of the Blackout line with evogrip scales.;
(http://i.imgur.com/sHgxPTO.jpg)
2) information I got from the shop owner where I bought the knife. For sure this information can not considered 100% accurate. However he is the man who provided me all the catalogs I uploaded on the wiki, and seems to remember very well that the knife (Blackout 63 Soft Touch)came out years before the recent Blackout line.
Sorry for the not so good english, but I hope you were able to understand the points.
I'll send Karl a message. Perhaps he could have additional informations.  :)



Wenger Evolution s10


Nice one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 28, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
Wenger Evolution s10
Nice one!
:cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on March 30, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
I've found a fixed Wenger. Any info about this one?

Franz Carl Weber is a big Swiss toy(!) seller.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9X33heaHIes/UzgnVjnBlII/AAAAAAAAJeo/YceijGESxYY/s800/DSCN8876_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vvXTBFoC7o4/UzgnWbIaNiI/AAAAAAAAJe8/Zx7Fm3uYUX8/s800/DSCN8883_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v-ZcMXEI2ms/UzgnWGrH5LI/AAAAAAAAJfE/UQYJKOAnlSM/s800/DSCN8892_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0hwS9jhNMfU/UzgnWh1ysXI/AAAAAAAAJfA/IoZY2TS_LvU/s800/DSCN8899_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on March 30, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
I've found a fixed Wenger. Any info about this one?

Franz Carl Weber is a big Swiss toy(!) seller.

.....
Nice one! I have one, not stag, that I posted about at one time. Carl has quite a collection of different handles with/without the saw tooth I believe.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 04, 2014, 05:49:26 PM
For those interested in the Blackout 63 Soft Touch "saga", I had been corresponding with Wenger in the last days.
Luckily the former Sales Assistant is still working there, but he is in the watch division now.
Anyway, here is the last email I got (translated from italian)

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
From: Jerome.Gueniat@victorinox.com
To: ---me----
Subject: RE: Blackout 63 Wenger Soft Touch
Date: Thu, April 3rd 2014 09:33:57 +0000

....

After double checking (with and without metal box) it appeared that we have produced that model Soft Touch also in 2008 and 2009 (493 and 300 units in metal box).
It was a good idea to ask a second time.
Regards!
Wenger Watch SA
Jerome Gueniat


This was about the production numbers.
As for the identifiers, Wenger does not have a record for the one I found.
Here is part of a previous email:

From: Jerome.Gueniat@victorinox.com
 To: ---me---
 Subject: RE: Wenger Blackout 63 Soft touch
 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:44:04 +0000

...

All our Blackout were produced with key ring. There are no articles such as: 1.063.242.814, but only 1.063.249.814.
I think that given the fact that black cover is easily removed from the ring, some partners have preferred to take it off directly. In fact, the ring was not covered by the same way of the knife (PVD). It was clearly less resistant (type of simple painting).

?

-. X means: in metal box


The "X" refers to the identifier.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gingerman on April 04, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Can you buy a Wenger New Ranger 54 in the U. S?

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 04, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
I've found a fixed Wenger. Any info about this one?

Franz Carl Weber is a big Swiss toy(!) seller.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9X33heaHIes/UzgnVjnBlII/AAAAAAAAJeo/YceijGESxYY/s800/DSCN8876_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vvXTBFoC7o4/UzgnWbIaNiI/AAAAAAAAJe8/Zx7Fm3uYUX8/s800/DSCN8883_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v-ZcMXEI2ms/UzgnWGrH5LI/AAAAAAAAJfE/UQYJKOAnlSM/s800/DSCN8892_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0hwS9jhNMfU/UzgnWh1ysXI/AAAAAAAAJfA/IoZY2TS_LvU/s800/DSCN8899_r.jpg)

I have one with black composite handles. A nice addition to the collection, but not impressed with it as a tool. Poorly balanced and with an uncomfortable handle.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: detron on April 06, 2014, 12:06:40 AM

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz255/detronphillips/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140743.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/detronphillips/media/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140743.jpg.html)


(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz255/detronphillips/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140711.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/detronphillips/media/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140711.jpg.html)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz255/detronphillips/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140657.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/detronphillips/media/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_140657.jpg.html)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz255/detronphillips/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_135917.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/detronphillips/media/SAKs/OLD%20Wenger/20140405_135917.jpg.html)


more pictures here

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,51534.msg872644.html#msg872644

if you can help ID or date this, I would be very greatful
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 21, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
My new swissmemory
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: edingg on April 21, 2014, 10:36:18 PM
My new realtree wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nsa-x-file on April 23, 2014, 05:54:52 PM
My first Wenger Metal series.
I really like the thick metal scales on this and also the fact that it still has the toothpick and tweezers.  :tu:

Metal 50
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F29kF1-Ob4g/U1fgr8EKOkI/AAAAAAAADaM/zHFIGSsbVaY/s640/Wenger%2520Metal%252050a.JPG)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: willc on April 27, 2014, 10:00:36 PM
I just got a Ranger 151 and 2 nos Professional series knives.
The spear blade is dated 88. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/28/u6a7e7ur.jpg)
The Ranger is a very neat knife.
It is my first 130mm Wenger and I like it but unlike the big Vic's this is not lefty friendly.
The cross button lock release is so cool that I will have to carry it sometimes.
It would be great if Vic incorporated this feature on the 111mm line.


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 02, 2014, 02:26:27 AM
Repost from 'Latest SAK'

Just picked up a very odd Wenger. Its an old Tahara Gentleman's knife with tooled stainless handles, in a unique size I've never seen. Its 82mm long, about three mm less than a standard sized 85mm like the Pheasant, and with smaller blades. On the other hand its noticeably larger than the normal 75mm Tahara Gentleman's knives, with longer blades and a more oval shape.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ducttapetech on May 02, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
Nice looking Wengers

live from Nate's mobile

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 02, 2014, 03:11:06 PM
That's an interesting one. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 02, 2014, 05:08:16 PM
Nice find(s) everybody!
I found what appears to be a "Pathfinder II" recently.
Will try to post some pictures soon.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jack Chen on May 02, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
one of my Wenger tool.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Schneider on May 03, 2014, 10:53:31 PM
Cool Swissgrip, and the swords in the background look cool too. Is that a bokken on top? Do you use it in practice?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: M0rkoni on May 04, 2014, 02:58:29 PM
A very nice Soldier 67...  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Kid33 on May 04, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
I saw Central Valley wholesale listed a bunch of Wenger knives recently.    Are these the New releases from Victorinox or old stock?   I dont know much about Wenger but like I said  CVW seems to have a bunch of different kinds.   

I thought this Orange camo one was interesting:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121331142205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Knives-Swords-Blades-/1401/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=centralvalleywholesale&_sop=10
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jack Chen on May 05, 2014, 12:44:14 AM
Cool Swissgrip, and the swords in the background look cool too. Is that a bokken on top? Do you use it in practice?

The sword just behind the Swissgrip, from top go down is:

1. Tang Dao
Tang Dao is "The ancestor of Japanese Katana".
During Tang dynasty (AD 618~907), Japanese visited China , and learn lot of Chinese cultural things, bring them back and teach their residents.

Tang Dao is one of the weapons.
Tang Dao must forging for 30 times, this kind of forging technology is too difficult for Japanese.

Japanese never ever make the same quality sword as Tand dao.

In Japan, they do keep few Tang Dao in their most important museum, to remember the Best Dao (sword) from China, and it is the ancestor of Japanese Katana.

by the way, now in this age, no one can make the 30 times folding Tang Dao any more. The skill of making Tang dao has been lost ! SO bad !

(My Tang Dao behind the Swiss grip is made by damascus steel, fold about 12 times. The color on the blade is deep in the chemical before, not just paint.)
   

2. Octahedral Han sword
This sword is bast Straight sword in Chinese sword history.
The best one in China is worth $300,000 USD The Blade is made by meteor iron. It can cut through brick without scratch the blade.
(My is not that expensive, my Octahedral Han sword is just made by regular damascus steel, and folding about 12 times.

3. A Japanese Katana
Made by damascus steel too.

I don't use any of them for practice, I only use the practice type sword for my form and skill practice.
Safety first !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on May 05, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
I like Wenger.If they make a tool I that like,I'll buy it.

I still own a "tool chest" from the early 90's,a hunting model with a locking blade,gut hook,saw and several other tools.There is one that I own that's the equivalent of the V-nox champ and another with a locking main blade.

I do like that Wenger metal series!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chivaceae on May 14, 2014, 12:53:40 AM
Here are two of the Wengers I recently acquired: a PocketGrip and a RangerGrip 90. Each one has its strengths and drawbacks, but overall I like them a lot. They will only be carried on their factory sheaths; the PocketGrip when doing weekend chores inside the house, and the RangerGrip 90 outside the house (landscape), and whenever I venture out into the woods. 
:climber:
Of course, always in the company of a Victorinox SwissChamp (as I have carried one of these daily for the last 20 years).  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 14, 2014, 11:01:15 AM
Nice ones!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 14, 2014, 07:19:43 PM
Agreed, very cool models you got. :cheers:

The RangerGrip 90 must be a beast to use, only for those with large hands. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on May 14, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
Here are some Wenger I own.I stated in another post that I don't know the names of these with the exception of the toolchest.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 15, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
Here are some Wenger I own.I stated in another post that I don't know the names of these with the exception of the toolchest.

Cant's see all the tools of your knives.
However, judging from the pictures, I would say:
Ranger on top, assuming it has a phillips driver, is Sabla 08.
Model on the left, assuming it has phillips driver, is a Monarch.
Model in the middle, Toolchest plus.
Model on the right, assuming it has corkscrew, is a Nomad.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tattoosteve99 on May 15, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
After my current projects are done I'm going to build a unique wenger model not seen before. Just a FYI :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on May 16, 2014, 12:57:26 AM
Cant's see all the tools of your knives.
However, judging from the pictures, I would say:
Ranger on top, assuming it has a phillips driver, is Sabla 08.
Model on the left, assuming it has phillips driver, is a Monarch.
Model in the middle, Toolchest plus.
Model on the right, assuming it has corkscrew, is a Nomad.

Thanks so much for that information.I've written it down and placed it in my tool chest.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 16, 2014, 11:19:52 AM

Thanks so much for that information.I've written it down and placed it in my tool chest.

No problems, I hope I was correct on id your knives.

----------

This is an interesting Wenger I recently bought.
I would call it a sub-variant of model 1.92.73 (see the Survivor wiki page for more informations).
I only saw this knife listed on japan websites (but with the same catalog number as the standard scale model) and when I made an order from Japan some time ago, I bought one.
Unfortunately, what I received was a standard 1.92.73, without the cyclist imprint.
So I thought that the picture of this knife with the cyclist imprint was just a catalog error.
This was untill I found this knife.
Now you may ask: what if the front scale was later replaced, adding the one from the more common cyclist model?
The last attached picture answer this question: as far as I know, the knife here is the only one to feature a front scale with the cyclist imprint and the provision for the tweezers.
In short my personal conclusion is (unless someone had different informations): the knife here was  a "variation" of model 1.92.73 made only for the Japan market.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on May 16, 2014, 11:19:31 PM
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 17, 2014, 12:57:41 AM
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?

A whistle. :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on May 17, 2014, 01:37:59 AM
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?

A whistle. :whistle:

It looked like whistle but I wasn't going to ask you if it was a whistle for fear of embarrassing myself.LOL.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stealth007s on May 17, 2014, 02:32:18 AM
What is that gray tool that looks to be a tube with a tapered end and a cut in its shaft?

A whistle. :whistle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_R-G_i4Xk
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 22, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Here is an additional unusual one.
I believe this is the "Pathfinder II" (16926).
Note the old 5-turns corkscrew and the missing patent marking on the cap lifter.
A more recent one (with the "4 turns" corkscrew) just sold on ebay.com today.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 22, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
Here is an additional unusual one.
I believe this is the "Pathfinder II" (16926).
Note the old 5-turns corkscrew and the missing patent marking on the cap lifter.
A more recent one (with the "4 turns" corkscrew) just sold on ebay.com today.

Hi
Very nice knife! I wonder if this is a 1979 SAK?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 22, 2014, 07:00:44 PM

Thanks so much for that information.I've written it down and placed it in my tool chest.

No problems, I hope I was correct on id your knives.

----------

This is an interesting Wenger I recently bought.
I would call it a sub-variant of model 1.92.73 (see the Survivor wiki page for more informations).
I only saw this knife listed on japan websites (but with the same catalog number as the standard scale model) and when I made an order from Japan some time ago, I bought one.
Unfortunately, what I received was a standard 1.92.73, without the cyclist imprint.
So I thought that the picture of this knife with the cyclist imprint was just a catalog error.
This was untill I found this knife.
Now you may ask: what if the front scale was later replaced, adding the one from the more common cyclist model?
The last attached picture answer this question: as far as I know, the knife here is the only one to feature a front scale with the cyclist imprint and the provision for the tweezers.
In short my personal conclusion is (unless someone had different informations): the knife here was  a "variation" of model 1.92.73 made only for the Japan market.

I believe you are correct and it is made for that market. If it got the "liner attaching" scale then you can try to see and compare with other ones. If somebody did this private then it would show.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 22, 2014, 07:04:59 PM


Hi
Very nice knife! I wonder if this is a 1979 SAK?

Hey North Man!
I think the same.
This knife is also shown on page 9 of the 1982 catalog (on top).
The image there seems to have the more recent corkscrew.
However, in the same catalog there are also pictures of knives with the older type.
Do you have an idea about when the change in the corkscrew did happen?


I believe you are correct and it is made for that market. If it got the "liner attaching" scale then you can try to see and compare with other ones. If somebody did this private then it would show.

No, I don't think it was modded.
They would had to cut the space for the tweezers on the liner, and on my example I am 100% sure it was factory made.
Here is an example of one of the stock catalog picture I was talking about
(http://i.imgur.com/XDkNbvk.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 22, 2014, 07:20:21 PM

yes it must be 100% real :tu: Nice find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 22, 2014, 07:27:51 PM


Hi
Very nice knife! I wonder if this is a 1979 SAK?

Hey North Man!
I think the same.
This knife is also shown on page 9 of the 1982 catalog (on top).
The image there seems to have the more recent corkscrew.
However, in the same catalog there are also pictures of knives with the older type.
Do you have an idea about when the change in the corkscrew did happen?


I believe you are correct and it is made for that market. If it got the "liner attaching" scale then you can try to see and compare with other ones. If somebody did this private then it would show.

No, I don't think it was modded.
They would had to cut the space for the tweezers on the liner, and on my example I am 100% sure it was factory made.
Here is an example of one of the stock catalog picture I was talking about
(http://i.imgur.com/XDkNbvk.jpg)

It is difficult to 100% on the corkscrew change but i would say late 70s. On knives from 1977 the extra loop was on. Maybe it started in 1978 and by 1981 most of the knives got the New Style corkscrew.
 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on May 22, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
Nice to see you again, North Man. :cheers:

Thanks for the info on the corkscrew. I think I asked about it some time ago but never got a definitive answer. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on May 23, 2014, 07:57:44 AM

Hi
You are all welcome :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: felinevet on May 23, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
I have several Wengers coming in soon (in addition to the ones already in stock in the store http://www.edcsource.com/FELINEVET-SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-STORE,name,100015,user_id,shop:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 27, 2014, 10:37:56 PM
(Repost from Latest SAK)

Here's an interesting Wenger. Its a rare version of the Backpacker/Classic 13, with a flat phillips sd in place of the nail file. Its number is 1.13.23. Names in my notes include Classic 13 and Mountain (a generic series term). Probably will call it a Classic 13 variant. Even more interesting in the logo. In place of the Wenger Swiss Cross, there's an outline of Saudi Arabia bordered by the Red Sea and Persian Gulf. Three dots probably represent Ad Damman, Riyadh, and Mecca. Suspect this is the Wenger version of the 'V & globe' logo used by Victorinox for sale in Saudi Arabia.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 28, 2014, 09:15:44 AM
Suspect this is the Wenger version of the 'V & globe' logo used by Victorinox for sale in Saudi Arabia.

Interesting find, congratulations!
I have seen at least two Wengers (1.28.03/champ) with a Turkish flag instead of the cross on the shield.
So I think that Wenger made probably some specific no-cross variants for single states.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on May 29, 2014, 06:48:30 PM
Here's an interesting Wenger. Its a rare version of the Backpacker/Classic 13, with a flat phillips sd in place of the nail file. Its number is 1.13.23. Names in my notes include Classic 13 and Mountain (a generic series term). Probably will call it a Classic 13 variant.

Sorry, I realize now that I should have added something to my previous message.
Apart from the missing cross in the shield, the knife above can be found in the wiki under the Classic 132 page.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+132
While I was updating the wiki, some time ago, with the Classic line, I found something quite strange.
The same knife had actually two different names, Classic 13 and Classic 132.
And, as a result, a knife with the same name, Classic 13, had actually different implements.

Few pictures to better explain:
Classic 13, same name but different implements
(http://i.imgur.com/nm9k5EN.jpg)

Classic 132 (tecnically this name was used only for the recent model, without the Backpacker imprint)
(http://i.imgur.com/ey3swCk.jpg)
Note that the Classic 13 on the first picture (top left) is the same as the Classic 132 on the second picture (on the right).

The knife shown by Karl is on the left of this last picture.
I personally would consider model 1.13.23 more a Classic 132 "variant", because of the 2d phillips. However this is not 100% correct as this is a name which was used only years later, when the Backpacker imprint were already replace by the footprint image.
Confusing, eh? :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 30, 2014, 01:51:10 AM
Suggest we go with Classic 13 for the version with the nail file, and Classic 132 for the version with the flat phillips. Include a note that the 132 was originally 13. This way we can keep them separate.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on June 06, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 06, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=124132;image)

The corkscrew looks kind of small. :P

Nice find. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on June 06, 2014, 02:50:07 PM
Small compared to the other tools, yes, but it still fits bottles like this one:

(http://decanter.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/11150/000000bd0/b2f1/big-ed-sbragia-bottle1.gif)

By the way, that Wenger is not mine, it's still listed on eBay.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on June 06, 2014, 03:14:08 PM
I have seen it, too. Gladly, it´s too far to pick it up.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on June 06, 2014, 05:48:42 PM
My newest Wenger.

I like big knives.LOL.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on June 06, 2014, 06:21:07 PM
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)


Awesome find.  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 07, 2014, 11:26:57 PM
Stumbled upon this big Wenger display knife. I have a Victorinox just like it but I think this Wenger one is a bit more uncommon :)

Great find! Don't think I've ever seen one with pliers and compass. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 12, 2014, 08:47:25 AM
Bought this for $ 5.99 on ebay.
It is the "Papillon with Packlock" cat. 16915 shown on the NA 1982 catalog (page 11).
 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 12, 2014, 09:55:53 AM
Bought this for $ 5.99 on ebay.
It is the "Papillon with Packlock" cat. 16915 shown on the NA 1982 catalog (page 11).

Nice score! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 12, 2014, 02:16:03 PM
Bought this for $ 5.99 on ebay.
It is the "Papillon with Packlock" cat. 16915 shown on the NA 1982 catalog (page 11).

Nice score! :tu:

Agreed. :cheers:

I wanted to say it looks like an early 80s on judging by the reamer and then saw the catalog reference. :D

I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 14, 2014, 05:56:59 PM

I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:

No, it does lock in mine example.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on July 14, 2014, 06:13:52 PM

I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:

No, it does lock in mine example.
So probably a later edition? :think: I thought this feature was added mid 80s, '84 or so

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on July 14, 2014, 06:35:17 PM

I'm guessing the bottle opener is non-locking? :think:

No, it does lock in mine example.
So probably a later edition? :think: I thought this feature was added mid 80s, '84 or so

Yes,
we have two North America catalogs on the wiki: the 1982 (or 1983) and the 1990 (which does not list this knife).
So my model was probably produced in this time frame (mid 80's but before 1990).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dragon Lord on July 18, 2014, 12:59:40 AM
I love wengers especially the ranger series.

This is my first wenger love:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/13857408304_140b5413a9_z.jpg)

I feel sorry that they aren't be made any more, so I'll try to catch as many as I can
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Landrew on July 30, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
I like when the seller mistakes the Wenger logo for a fake-Victorinox logo, and sells it to you for the price of a cheap knock-off.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on July 30, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
I like when the seller mistakes the Wenger logo for a fake-Victorinox logo, and sells it to you for the price of a cheap knock-off.

That is what rekindeled my SAK love in the early 2000's.  At our local flea market, I found a Wenger commander in the dollar bin amid a bunch of cheap knockoffs. 

Now I have nearly 30 saks.  I gave the commander to my brother and he keeps it on his keys.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: edingg on August 14, 2014, 07:40:38 AM
 :cheers:
I like when the seller mistakes the Wenger logo for a fake-Victorinox logo, and sells it to you for the price of a cheap knock-off.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on August 14, 2014, 08:13:07 AM
Just got a Evo S52 and am loving it. Their are quite a few things I do not like about the Wenger design, but I can live with it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: matzesu on August 14, 2014, 11:18:21 AM
A few weeks ago, i bought me a Original Wenger Evogrip S 557, and i like it:
You get a locket Blade in the Formfaktor of a Swiss Army Knife,
By Victorinox, you get this only on the Big, Pant Pocket Unfriendly 111er Serie..

The Evogrip Scales feel good, and there are a good collektion of tools,
Ditnt tryd the Can Opener yet, but the Bottle Opener..
I pimped it whit the tiny Scewdriver from a 111er Workchamp , which get drilled in the corkscrew.. and a Pocket Clip for the Keyring

The only bad thing is the Opening for the Philips Screwdriver which only works, if you first open the Scissor and the Plier...

Also a nice features which i ditnt had on a Victorinox: you can easely close the Knife whit one Hand...
And as you cant open it whit one hand, you can carry it whitout fear hear in Germany :)

Its Red, its Smal, and it has the Swiss Cross on it, so its a swiss pocket knife :)

I know, Victorinox also have this knife now, as Delemont Collektion, but i have the Original Wenger now..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Subterranean on August 14, 2014, 11:45:20 AM
A few weeks ago, i bought me a Original Wenger Evogrip S 557, and i like it:
You get a locket Blade in the Formfaktor of a Swiss Army Knife,
By Victorinox, you get this only on the Big, Pant Pocket Unfriendly 111er Serie..

The Evogrip Scales feel good, and there are a good collektion of tools,
Ditnt tryd the Can Opener yet, but the Bottle Opener..
I pimped it whit the tiny Scewdriver from a 111er Workchamp , which get drilled in the corkscrew.. and a Pocket Clip for the Keyring

The only bad thing is the Opening for the Philips Screwdriver which only works, if you first open the Scissor and the Plier...

Also a nice features which i ditnt had on a Victorinox: you can easely close the Knife whit one Hand...
And as you cant open it whit one hand, you can carry it whitout fear hear in Germany :)

Its Red, its Smal, and it has the Swiss Cross on it, so its a swiss pocket knife :)

I know, Victorinox also have this knife now, as Delemont Collektion, but i have the Original Wenger now..

Welcome to the forum! :cheers:

That's a very nice SAK model. Quite a lot of tools in the 85mm format, still pocket friendly.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on August 14, 2014, 12:02:31 PM
Greetings matzesu!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 14, 2014, 07:08:06 PM
welcome to the forum Matzesu :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on August 14, 2014, 07:10:19 PM
Lots of cleaning, buffing, one new-ish scale modded to fit (thanks Thomas/lowtech), one original scale, I filled the bail hole in to make it appear riveted just on that one side  :)
Nice feeling to bring an old knife back to the land of the living from the scrap bin. Will make an excellent EDC.

Large blade/nail file/cleaner.
Scissors.
Saw.
Mag glass/small screwdriver.
Dog-leg can opener/Bottle opener/Large screwdriver.
Awl and Phillips on the back.
Toothpick/Tweezers in the scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on August 14, 2014, 07:12:42 PM

well done :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on August 14, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
A few weeks ago, i bought me a Original Wenger Evogrip S 557, and i like it:
You get a locket Blade in the Formfaktor of a Swiss Army Knife,
By Victorinox, you get this only on the Big, Pant Pocket Unfriendly 111er Serie..

The Evogrip Scales feel good, and there are a good collektion of tools,
Ditnt tryd the Can Opener yet, but the Bottle Opener..
I pimped it whit the tiny Scewdriver from a 111er Workchamp , which get drilled in the corkscrew.. and a Pocket Clip for the Keyring
The only bad thing is the Opening for the Philips Screwdriver which only works, if you first open the Scissor and the Plier...

Also a nice features which i ditnt had on a Victorinox: you can easely close the Knife whit one Hand...
And as you cant open it whit one hand, you can carry it whitout fear hear in Germany :)

Its Red, its Smal, and it has the Swiss Cross on it, so its a swiss pocket knife :)

I know, Victorinox also have this knife now, as Delemont Collektion, but i have the Original Wenger now..

Welcome to the forum! :cheers:

That's a very nice SAK model. Quite a lot of tools in the 85mm format, still pocket friendly.

Seems a little strange. I can open the Philips and Universal Wrench on my s557 without opening anything else at all.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: matzesu on August 14, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
I can also Open it whitout open others, but its realy tought so its a nailkiller...
Maybe it gets a bit better, when its used some times..
I mean: according to the Cross and the Cardbox, its an original Wenger, so maybe the Knife itself dit lying around in some warehouses since a lot yeahrs..

Edit: ok, i tried it today: now it works..

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on August 14, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
I can also Open it whitout open others, but its realy tought so its a nailkiller...
Maybe it gets a bit better, when its used some times..
I mean: according to the Cross and the Cardbox, its an original Wenger, so maybe the Knife itself dit lying around in some warehouses since a lot yeahrs..

Edit: ok, i tried it today: now it works..

My s557 was tight on that layer too. I found that the first shoulder of the philips driver was a little too high, and was lifting the backspring too far, a bit of a nail breaker.
I took a little off that philips shoulder with adremel and parting disk. It's easier now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: matzesu on August 14, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
Like i said, mybe it gets better now..

Until then, Pictures :)

(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/l/t1.0-9/10491226_794196040601040_3999490775504660734_n.jpg)

And a sice compareten whit a Workchamp, and a Leatherman Charge TTI (which i ditnt use yet because it have a One Hand Open Knife on it..)  (and the Wenger looks lot better whit this Red Black Scales..)..

(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1234593_794195920601052_1874320412200466686_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on August 14, 2014, 09:01:49 PM
These two were awaiting me when I arrived home from a retreat.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on August 15, 2014, 05:00:50 PM
These two were awaiting me when I arrived home from a retreat.

Go on, remind us the model... :pok:
Zermatt, Survivor, Matterhorn etc  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on August 16, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
Two (old) Rangers from 2011 with a special blade.

More info and pics on my blog (http://swissknives.info/wenger-ranger-model-38/)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XvM_TTQnQ2A/U-9nuPbAciI/AAAAAAAAKqI/htQt4kOTcco/s800/Ranger%252038%2520comparison%2520frontside.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HN9dCmQTgFY/U-9nt5SLeZI/AAAAAAAAKqA/muEWd7AeyTY/s800/Ranger%252038%2520comparison%2520backside.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I025BR2i388/U-9nuO_Wr5I/AAAAAAAAKqE/hR4uaI3FDVs/s800/Ranger%252038-36%2520blade.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 17, 2014, 03:16:54 AM
Nice finds!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 17, 2014, 03:53:04 AM
Hello all !

During last 6 month I was in Switzerland for my work... So very busy and no time enough to send posts or to prepare photos of knives...
But I'm here again !

First, for Icanfixthat and his Wiki, a little Wenger not referenced yet : the Evowood 66 with its pouch. You can copy the picture on your site and I can send you better photos if you want !

Very strange knife : I never found it on any catalog, I bouth it directly in the old manufacture Wenger (now Victorinox) in Delemont...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/evowoo10.jpg)



And for all, some knives I found during my mission in Switzerland :

Several Soldiers 1951 models...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/modyle10.jpg)

Ancestor of a Commander (1960s) with logo of "Canton of Bern" on the other face
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wenger19.jpg)

Skier (1980s)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wenger18.jpg)

Shredder (2000/2006)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/shredd10.jpg)

Wenger Tahara (probably 1940s ?) with a LAUFEN Logo
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wenger14.jpg)

2 old Wenger (probably between 1916 and 1950) with Marlin Spike not restaured yet !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wenger13.jpg)

Soldier red alox 1961 model (1964)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wenger12.jpg)

Fass 90
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/fass9010.jpg)

and... 2 SwissGrip Red and black with 2 different pouches
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/swiss_12.jpg)
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/swiss_14.jpg)


I have another Fass 90 new in its box, if some body want to make change, please contact me in PM
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on August 17, 2014, 04:04:48 AM
 :ahhh   :drool:   :ahhh   :drool:   :ahhh   :drool:   :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ebarberena on August 17, 2014, 04:05:29 AM
 Great finds. :tu: Congratulations.  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 20, 2014, 10:05:11 PM
After a good restauration this 100 mm Wenger has a better look !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/1310.jpg)

If you compare... "Before and After"...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/compar10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 20, 2014, 10:45:31 PM
Very good restoration, Jean-Claude. :cheers:

And some cool additions from your CH stay too.

Did the two layer Wenger Evowood come with a box? Do you have a model number for it or a name?

ICanFixThat hasn't been around for some time now, if you have more pictures and info you can e-mail/PM them to basilio or me and we'll make a listing for it in the SAKwiki.

Or you can just write what you know about it here. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on August 20, 2014, 11:01:56 PM
These two were awaiting me when I arrived home from a retreat.

Go on, remind us the model... :pok:
Zermatt, Survivor, Matterhorn etc  :think:

Sorry I missed this post.The Zermatt has the saw and the Matterhorn has the whistle.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on August 20, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
There are some really cool old Saks here.

I need to look more for the older Saks.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on August 20, 2014, 11:07:17 PM
Wow, that Wenger Tahara from the 40's looks stunning. :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 21, 2014, 12:08:31 AM
...
Did the two layer Wenger Evowood come with a box? Do you have a model number for it or a name?

ICanFixThat hasn't been around for some time now, if you have more pictures and info you can e-mail/PM them to basilio or me and we'll make a listing for it in the SAKwiki.

Or you can just write what you know about it here. :cheers:
...

Unfortunatly I have no box... It was sold with rebate at the Wenger factory (Delémont) in a plastic bag and all I know is its name : Evowood 66 printed on the bag.

First I supposed it was a knife made with last spare parts "Wenger" in the factory LOL !
But if you look in the catalog 2112, you can find a "classic 66", with same tools... So I think that "Evowood 66" is the correct name for this knife not visible in any catalog...

I will make better photos for Sakawiki (by PM), but not before the next week, because tomorow I will go to Switzerland to spend last days of my hollidays (and also lot of money) at Ibach at the Victorinox factory and I hope to visit the Swiss Army Knife Museum in Brunnen !

 



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on August 21, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
Very good restoration, Jean-Claude. :cheers:
...

Here (French forum Fan des couteaux suisses) you can see all steps of this restoration : http://www.fans-du-couteau-suisse.com/t997-restauration-d-un-ancien-wenger-annees-1916-1950-ref-inconnue
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on August 23, 2014, 06:26:59 AM
Does anyone know how wide the screwdriver is on the Wenger magnifying glass? I was wondering if it is close enough to the victorinox can opener to make it redundant on the Victorinox delemont collection.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: nylawbiz on August 23, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
Ain't nothing like a Giant!  The king of Swiss Army knives. 

Just ordered a Victorinox Swiss Champ XAVT on the bay.  Actually didn't mean to do it, but that had a best offer on a NIB, so I put in $300 and it was immediately accepted it, so I bought it.  Well, now my Giant has a "little" brother.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on August 23, 2014, 08:54:08 PM
Ain't nothing like a Giant!  The king of Swiss Army knives. 

Just ordered a Victorinox Swiss Champ XAVT on the bay.  Actually didn't mean to do it, but that had a best offer on a NIB, so I put in $300 and it was immediately accepted it, so I bought it.  Well, now my Giant has a "little" brother.

One day I will buy one of these.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 28, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
Nice additions Jean-Claude!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on August 28, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
Received today what I consider an interesting Wenger.
It is a RangerGrip which features orange scales and black coated implements.
This knife is part of a very expensive set (Limited Edition Squadron Rescue Chrono, cat. 60758), which includes a watch, limited to just 1893 pieces.
(http://i.imgur.com/BUFEcb5.jpg)
More about the set here
http://www.wengerna.com/squadron-rescue-chrono-60758
The set is not really "rare", as there are always examples for sale on ebay.
However, with a retail price of just $ 695 ( and ebay prices usually around € 300) I couldn't really justify the purchase.
Most of all, I couldn't care less about the watch.
Well, what I had been waiting for just happened some time ago: an auction showed up, and this time it was only for the knife.
It seems there was out there a watch collector who couldn't care less about the knife.
So, with the kind help by a forum member, I was able to grab the knife for just $ 44
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on August 28, 2014, 06:38:10 PM
Congratulations Basilio  :salute:

Like you, I'm also after that model - but can't justify paying for watch too. If it were either mechanical or kinetic I'd consider it, but can't face the hassle of battery power.

I'm guessing you've now got ALL the Rangers... :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dragon Lord on August 28, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
Basilio that knife is geourgeous  :drool:

I saw the set once in Aruba, but it was really expensive for me.

Congrats for that good price.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 29, 2014, 02:05:47 AM
After a good restauration this 100 mm Wenger has a better look !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/1310.jpg)

If you compare... "Before and After"...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/compar10.jpg)

Great work on that restoration!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 29, 2014, 02:06:35 AM
Received today what I consider an interesting Wenger.
It is a RangerGrip which features orange scales and black coated implements.
This knife is part of a very expensive set (Limited Edition Squadron Rescue Chrono, cat. 60758), which includes a watch, limited to just 1893 pieces.
(http://i.imgur.com/BUFEcb5.jpg)
More about the set here
http://www.wengerna.com/squadron-rescue-chrono-60758
The set is not really "rare", as there are always examples for sale on ebay.
However, with a retail price of just $ 695 ( and ebay prices usually around € 300) I couldn't really justify the purchase.
Most of all, I couldn't care less about the watch.
Well, what I had been waiting for just happened some time ago: an auction showed up, and this time it was only for the knife.
It seems there was out there a watch collector who couldn't care less about the knife.
So, with the kind help by a forum member, I was able to grab the knife for just $ 44

Great score, Carlo!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dragon Lord on August 29, 2014, 06:05:10 PM
I love this 2 minis

This is part of my EDC:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/13856988285_ef93610b20_c.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2904/14660287874_a19bf22715_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on August 29, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
Here is an old Wenger Esquire with a couple of unique differences from the modern day one. First off is the split nail file, then the scissors spring and finally the internal blade springs.

Old Wenger Esquire (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2014/08/wenger-esquire-vintage-special-model.html)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7vlgfxfg1Hc/U_OsmbCJZsI/AAAAAAAAop0/y2aJpRvjkao/s800/DSC02842.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hFM49zc0rQk/U_Osx3shQUI/AAAAAAAAoqU/tDqbNxD1IHo/s800/DSC02846.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3yvj3fCUU_o/U_Os0I6-yhI/AAAAAAAAoqc/Y-DyOxgskag/s800/DSC02848.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xNgb6R9stm8/U_Os-GokjKI/AAAAAAAAorA/mM0ZGE1IyOs/s800/DSC02854.JPG)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on August 29, 2014, 11:29:13 PM

Here is an old Wenger Esquire with a couple of unique differences from the modern day one. First off is the split nail file, then the scissors spring and finally the internal blade springs.

Old Wenger Esquire (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2014/08/wenger-esquire-vintage-special-model.html)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7vlgfxfg1Hc/U_OsmbCJZsI/AAAAAAAAop0/y2aJpRvjkao/s800/DSC02842.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hFM49zc0rQk/U_Osx3shQUI/AAAAAAAAoqU/tDqbNxD1IHo/s800/DSC02846.JPG)(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3yvj3fCUU_o/U_Os0I6-yhI/AAAAAAAAoqc/Y-DyOxgskag/s800/DSC02848.JPG)(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xNgb6R9stm8/U_Os-GokjKI/AAAAAAAAorA/mM0ZGE1IyOs/s800/DSC02854.JPG)
Cool esquire. I wonder what the purpose of the split nail file is?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on August 30, 2014, 03:36:24 AM
This will be a Christmas gift for my 12yo Daughter
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 30, 2014, 03:42:38 AM
Interesting find, Wayne!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on September 27, 2014, 02:44:20 AM

Tomorrow afternoon I'm going by the shop, see if the guy has come up with any info on the Tactile 812.
To be honest, I'm not expecting much, meaning I'm not sure he'll have done any search but you never know. I may have to pick up a SI or two to give him an incentive :D


Let us know if you find more information.
It took me some time, I pestered the man twice and I'm sorry to say no more info came up.  :(

On the bright side, I got me some Wengers I like quite a lot. Pics to follow later.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Beery on September 30, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
Cool esquire. I wonder what the purpose of the split nail file is?

Could it be coarser and finer grit?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Beery on September 30, 2014, 04:29:31 PM
They can stick their logo on it, but I will never admit that this...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nbxqjpliRDU/VCqy2zqtXzI/AAAAAAAAAcY/LTi5Cz_gY48/s1600/Victorinox%2BDel%C3%A9mont%2BEvolution%2BS17%2Bsmall.jpg)

...is not a Wenger.

And this, as it happens, is the subject of my most recent blog post (http://ianbrettcooper.blogspot.com/2014/09/victorinox-delemont-evolution-s17.html).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: coSAK on September 30, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
This is clearly a changeling named Wengorinox.
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on September 30, 2014, 06:29:37 PM
I like all 3!

Vic
Wenger
Delemont!

I want them all! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: coSAK on September 30, 2014, 06:52:46 PM
My love for Wenger is very limited because of their weak backsprings.

Hopefully Victorinox fixed that issue on the Delemont knifes.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on September 30, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
This is clearly a changeling named Wengorinox.
 :rofl:


:whistle:

(http://rs220.pbsrc.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Tang%20Stamps/OldWengerinox-04-cropped.jpg~c200)


Wenger used to be called that, you know. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: coSAK on September 30, 2014, 09:31:12 PM
This is clearly a changeling named Wengorinox.
 :rofl:


:whistle:

(http://rs220.pbsrc.com/albums/dd39/stressmaster5000/Tang%20Stamps/OldWengerinox-04-cropped.jpg~c200)


Wenger used to be called that, you know. ;)

Yeah, self-fulfilling prophecy.
 :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Humppa on September 30, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
I like Wenger - but I didn´t give 'em the attention they deserved, foolishly.

I just got some some months ago - next to my Wenger SIs ;)

(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t489/kampfgockel2/IMG_4213_zps15d20af1.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/kampfgockel2/media/IMG_4213_zps15d20af1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: deputy tom on October 01, 2014, 11:05:35 PM
I just checked my collection and I have 6 Wengers vs 38 Victorinox SAKs. The Wengers are ok but my favorites are Vics. YMMV. tom.   :tool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Goatlord666 on October 02, 2014, 01:42:08 AM
gone darnit...I want me hands on them Victoringers!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 02, 2014, 01:49:16 PM


Much nice knives shown lately :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 02, 2014, 07:44:18 PM


Much nice knives shown lately :tu:

Now there's a username I haven't seen in a while. :cheers:

Hope you're doing well. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 02, 2014, 10:16:15 PM


Much nice knives shown lately :tu:

Now there's a username I haven't seen in a while. :cheers:

Hope you're doing well. :tu:

Thanks, i am fine. Been busy  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 02, 2014, 10:48:08 PM
Just picked up a Professional 1 72 41. Now have the complete set of the later plastic-handled Professional/Handwerker series. Only have a couple of the early nylon-handled knives.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 03, 2014, 08:26:45 AM
Just picked up a Professional 1 72 41. Now have the complete set of the later plastic-handled Professional/Handwerker series. Only have a couple of the early nylon-handled knives.

Really nice knives!

Also it is smart with that box
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on October 03, 2014, 11:20:28 AM

Just picked up a Professional 1 72 41. Now have the complete set of the later plastic-handled Professional/Handwerker series. Only have a couple of the early nylon-handled knives.

Very cool.  I have just one of these, a 1.71.31 and wish I could lay my hands on a couple of other models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 04, 2014, 02:20:57 PM
Colors are in today more than ever!

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=131332;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 04, 2014, 06:45:47 PM

A picture of the awl too

 (euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)

Did you know  that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?

Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 04, 2014, 09:18:20 PM

A picture of the awl too

 (euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)

Did you know  that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?

Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!

The SAS used "Pink Panther" Land Rovers when operating in Yemen.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 05, 2014, 09:12:28 AM

A picture of the awl too

 (euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)

Did you know  that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?

Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!

The SAS used "Pink Panther" Land Rovers when operating in Yemen.

Yes :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 05, 2014, 09:25:33 AM

One of the most difficult colors i have ever had for the camera. Here is a picture that is the best possible.
For sure the Wenger knife is not made for war but it is interesting. I am 100% sure that women that would carry this would have a really good outdoors knife. Not many Tools out there with such functions. In the history of SAKs there has been made or made today knives for women. Today this RangerGrip would probably be universal.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on October 05, 2014, 02:28:03 PM

A picture of the awl too

 (euro number AF.1.077.061.891 or called RangerGrip Pink 61.891)

Did you know  that Pink is a color used for different Camouflage Technics during war? Also pink has not always been a color for women?

Wenger used this shade/color Pink on more early knives but the RangerGrip Pink is one of the latest Wenger models!

The SAS used "Pink Panther" Land Rovers when operating in Yemen.

And there were pink Spitfires too
http://youtu.be/ko9gSpny4-c

As well as the pink Tornados,Jaguars and Buccaneers of Operation Granby(not forgetting Pinky and Perky,the Tristar Tankers)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 05, 2014, 03:00:20 PM
interesting stuff!

This pink or shade is from my impressions from knives directed at fashions, pastels and women started in the late 80s and introduced in the 90s. Even if the camera got problems you can see the 65mm from the 90s got the same or almost completely the same shade.

PS on the side the SAS special forces are very underestimated i know they are very tough!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 06, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
Nice pictures North Man.
I have yet to understand at which markets these pink Wenger's were aimed.
Apart from North America and some eastern countries, I was never able to find them listed here.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 06, 2014, 11:55:03 PM

Hi, thanks!

i have been trying to find some info on the markets too.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 07, 2014, 02:52:31 AM
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/WengerStdCigarandtraveler_zps67011a92.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 07, 2014, 08:40:40 AM
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.

Maybe I will get something next week.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 07, 2014, 01:16:46 PM
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.

Maybe I will get something next week.

Nice knives!

It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.

 My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 07, 2014, 01:28:50 PM
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.

Maybe I will get something next week.

Nice knives!

It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.

 My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:

Each to their own I suppose - but I won't buy the Vic Evo knock offs on principle. But that's my own choice.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 07, 2014, 05:56:24 PM
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.

Maybe I will get something next week.

Nice knives!

It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.

 My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:

Each to their own I suppose - but I won't buy the Vic Evo knock offs on principle. But that's my own choice.

I don't follow principles here, but simply I don't find a great interest to buy the same knives again.
Plus I honestly don't like the few "innovations" now introduced in the Delémont line much appealing.
So far I have 2 85mm from the new line: one evogrip and a standard evo scale that I won in a giveaway here.
Was thinking about buying a single "new" Ranger, but I'm not very tempted by the current models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 07, 2014, 09:27:07 PM
There is a closeout sale in a shop but I do not think the prices on most items are low enough.... but they are in theory collectible.. unless the fact that many are now made by Victorinox decreases the demand for the old Wenger models, in the future.

Maybe I will get something next week.

Nice knives!

It is difficult to tell how collectable Wenger knives will be in the future. I mean knives from before the merging. I would believe the collectable value on knives from 1893-2013 would remain the same and in some cases increase. Since they are genuine SAKs then it would be so i believe. There is a small change today. The independent Wenger knives are now gone and there is only one Brand called Victorinox with knives and if people that want to collect SAKs then i would recommend collecting both 1884-2013 and continue to collect the New Victorinox knives.

 My knowledge about SAKs increased much from collecting both and Wenger knives are educational and fun to collect. :tu:

Each to their own I suppose - but I won't buy the Vic Evo knock offs on principle. But that's my own choice.

I don't follow principles here, but simply I don't find a great interest to buy the same knives again.
Plus I honestly don't like the few "innovations" now introduced in the Delémont line much appealing.
So far I have 2 85mm from the new line: one evogrip and a standard evo scale that I won in a giveaway here.
Was thinking about buying a single "new" Ranger, but I'm not very tempted by the current models.

I was planing to buy a new Gardner but the price quote I got made me rethink that. $100 :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 08, 2014, 01:10:49 AM
Buying a 'collectible' in order to make money is different from collecting for pleasure. I collect SAKs, both Victorinox and Wenger, because I think they're neat and I enjoy the wide variety. If they go up in value, fine. If not, no big deal. I receive my pleasure from the collecting; my brother will probably inherit them and he can deal with their value.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 08, 2014, 02:08:51 AM
I certainly wouldn't dispute with any of your comments (Basilio, enki, coloswiss), and I for one would readily drop my prejudices and buy  a Victorinox if "they" (and I do mean "THEY") actually brought something out worth buying. We all know the quality is there, its just the originality or lack off that galls me. I'm struggling to think of any "New" line that's made the world sit up and take notice in the last  5-6yrs. Please don't anybody mention coloured alox...... :facepalm:

Their sheer arrogance is simply breath taking!! But then again with the annoucment recently of their new store in Zürich, one does begin to wonder if Victorinox are not but wanting to move the brand name into markets new, clothing, baggage, perfume ( :rofl:) etc etc and whatever other tack they can endorse to profit from. I do sometimes question if that be the case. It would certainly bring sense to their current seemingly stagnant SAK lines. Whilst Victorinox would never want to freely admit to such a thing. Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.

EDIT: It would be very interesting to know what the percentage of shop floor space is actually used solely for the display and marketing of Swiss army knives or knives in general in the new Zürich store.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: coSAK on October 08, 2014, 09:29:09 AM

Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.

Keyword: 9/11
Would you like to know more?: National Geographic Megafactories Swiss Army Knife HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPvDNXnRJQM#ws)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 08, 2014, 10:29:50 AM

Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.

Keyword: 9/11
Would you like to know more?: National Geographic Megafactories Swiss Army Knife HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPvDNXnRJQM#ws)

I'm aware of the impact. 9/11 had on sales and the air travel restrictions that resulted - but forgive me 9/11 was 13yrs ago!!

Leatherman, Gerber have moved on. Yet victorinox simply uses the same boring layouts continuously.....yawn.

How I wish Wenger had been purchased by overseas investors - it would have given victorinox the kick up the arse it needs.

They really need to up their game.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 08, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
I admire Wenger's search for innovation but I can't help feeling their QC was faulty in many aspects.

What I like about Victorinox is the consistency and the functionality of their models. As they say, if it ain't broken, why fix it? Furthermore, I think Victorinox cannot change their time tested configurations really, as these are part of the overall design (that I find very well conceived) and altering them would probably result in detorioration.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on October 08, 2014, 11:50:24 AM
I agree with firiki - Victorinox is an example of a company that provide consistantly good quality and a tool that you can rely on, as well as running a company that looks after its employees through good times and bad, all sadly rare with the vast majority of corporations these days.

I like that you can buy a reasonably priced pocket knife that is relatively unchanged since its inception over 100 years ago!

I like the ubiquity of the tools, that you have the standard set and then each model offers something in addition to suit your intentions for the tool.

We all love to hold and use our SAKs and I think the major reason for this (for me at least) is that we are living in really uncertain times and the SAK provides an anchor - something thats always been there and will always be there, no matter what else is happening.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 08, 2014, 12:16:27 PM
We all love to hold and use our SAKs and I think the major reason for this (for me at least) is that we are living in really uncertain times and the SAK provides an anchor - something thats always been there and will always be there, no matter what else is happening.
I know what you mean and, stupid as it may sound to some, I find that feeling comforting; knowing my good ol' SAK is there for me and that I could replace it if anything happened to it - even during a zombie apocalypse if I knew where to look.

 :climber:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 08, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
We all love to hold and use our SAKs and I think the major reason for this (for me at least) is that we are living in really uncertain times and the SAK provides an anchor - something thats always been there and will always be there, no matter what else is happening.
I know what you mean and, stupid as it may sound to some, I find that feeling comforting; knowing my good ol' SAK is there for me and that I could replace it if anything happened to it - even during a zombie apocalypse if I knew where to look.

 :climber:
:cheers: :cheers:  :salute:  Both well said!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on October 08, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
I certainly wouldn't dispute with any of your comments (Basilio, enki, coloswiss), and I for one would readily drop my prejudices and buy  a Victorinox if "they" (and I do mean "THEY") actually brought something out worth buying. We all know the quality is there, its just the originality or lack off that galls me. I'm struggling to think of any "New" line that's made the world sit up and take notice in the last  5-6yrs. Please don't anybody mention coloured alox...... :facepalm:

Their sheer arrogance is simply breath taking!! But then again with the annoucment recently of their new store in Zürich, one does begin to wonder if Victorinox are not but wanting to move the brand name into markets new, clothing, baggage, perfume ( :rofl:) etc etc and whatever other tack they can endorse to profit from. I do sometimes question if that be the case. It would certainly bring sense to their current seemingly stagnant SAK lines. Whilst Victorinox would never want to freely admit to such a thing. Its almost as if a new generation of directors of Victorinox are now wanting to steer the brand name to pastures new, whilst continuing to remain holding steadfast to the prestige that the Victorinox Swiss army knife has become so symbolically recognised globally in a transition that could take decades to complete.

EDIT: It would be very interesting to know what the percentage of shop floor space is actually used solely for the display and marketing of Swiss army knives or knives in general in the new Zürich store.

Tosh,please don't take this the wrong way,it's not meant badly,but what do you want to see from Victorinox?

Your are right that LM and Gerber have tried new things,but often they're failures,or not really suitable for a Western European market.

Aside from putting a decent LED into the Lite models,I'm not sure where Victorinox could improve  or innovate?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 08, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
I would like to see innovation. When all is said and done they are lauded as being the best. So let's see something new.
Wenger did so many ideas, and they will be remembered for them - not that they went bust so to speak.
Victorinox is so predictable these days.
I can't even be bothered to carry on referring to them.

Dull is the word.

EDIT : @ Kirky - asking what I want from Victorinox  really is the $64 question. They took over Wenger, a company that actually went under because of their unwaivering commitment to stand out in the market... (from Victorinox??).

If Vic can't now think for themselves, now that they've removed their sole competitor............. then its a bad job!!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 08, 2014, 03:44:10 PM
I would like to see innovation. When all is said and done they are lauded as being the best. So let's see something new.
Wenger did so many ideas, and they will be remembered for them - not that they went bust so to speak.
Victorinox is so predictable these days.
I can't even be bothered to carry on referring to them.

Dull is the word.
You mean, something like the soldier '08? The replaceable glass breaker on the Rescue Tool? The replaceable disc-saw? Or do you mean something like the Wenger Business Tool?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 08, 2014, 06:13:26 PM
I would like to see innovation. When all is said and done they are lauded as being the best. So let's see something new.
Wenger did so many ideas, and they will be remembered for them - not that they went bust so to speak.
Victorinox is so predictable these days.
I can't even be bothered to carry on referring to them.

Dull is the word.
You mean, something like the soldier '08? The replaceable glass breaker on the Rescue Tool? The replaceable disc-saw? Or do you mean something like the Wenger Business Tool?

Who would've thought of releasing such a quirky tool as the Business tool, of listening to Mike Horn what actually works or working with Ueli Steck to create the titanium line, bringing out the Evowood range..hell in fact bringing out the Evo Grip itself incorporating pliers, shears into the 130 range, locking screwdrivers and blades on the 85 series.......... Do I really need to go on??

Why Victorinox won't release the spirit at LM Juice proportions is baffling to me. Imagine you're in a shop and all the Red 91mm range is on display, you suddenly catch glimpse of a shiny multitool of almost the same proportions as the regular SAK, which would you buy??

But that's just what we already know off, is it beyond them to actually think up something new....I actually think it is.

Delemont anyone...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 08, 2014, 06:17:40 PM
Haven't we went over all of this like a dozen times in various other threads?

Do we really need to go over it again, when obviously no one is changing their minds on it?

:shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 08, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
Haven't we went over all of this like a dozen times in various other threads?

Do we really need to go over it again, when obviously no one is changing their minds on it?

:shrug:

Sorry enki

I don't mean to annoy people, but nor can I do nothing or sit here and lie and say all is fine.
If I wasn't interested I wouldn't be here on a forum thats dedicated solely to multitools and swiss army knives.
What started me off was the mention of the damascus spartan... :facepalm:

Its just Vic all over, takes the bloody easy route every time..!!

Boring boring boring!! :rant:


I promise to try and keep shut  :angel:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 08, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
I understand Tosh's POV and I can say that in general terms I embrace it, under a few conditions, the first and most important of which being final product quality, or client satisfaction. In this regard I hold Vic's as an exemplary company model even tho' I don't quite like their marketing turn to a luxurious brand, which is different than prestigious.

I like quality that won't jeopardise my physical integrity easily; its why I support R & D, I would be stupid to think otherwise, just not at the expense of safety. It's why I dislike too much electronics on cars, for example. I guess there's no other viable way of improving a product, here a car, other than testing it in real life, if profit is ever to be made. SAK's being a market of their own, I like Vic's approach, there's a lesson to be learned there. 

I also like the SwissTool's pliers tip, not too broad, not too narrow, truly versatile. (Now, Vic, please make them less slipperish :rant: )

Discussion is good, never forget that, children. :cheers:

Edit: I'll have to expand on my post later, no time right now. The SAK-sized MT raises a interesting question as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 09, 2014, 03:59:51 PM
OK, going back to topic, here is an interesting find.
I admit that I didn't know the correct english name for it, but after some search I think it is called Lenticular Print.
Basically, the image changes as long as you change your point of view.
In this case, the knife changes from closed to fully opened.
I think this panel is probably from the late '80's, first 90's.
Goes well toghether with the other vintage display I have, with the knife "embossed" (I think I already posted pictures of it here in this topic).
Sorry for the first two pictures, but it is nearly impossible to take good ones, because of how the panel is made.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 09, 2014, 04:00:48 PM
sorry double post
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 09, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
OK, going back to topic, here is an interesting find.
I admit that I didn't know the correct english name for it, but after some search I think it is called Lenticular Print.
Basically, the image changes as long as you change your point of view.
In this case, the knife changes from closed to fully opened.
I think this panel is probably from the late '80's, first 90's.
Goes well toghether with the other vintage display I have, with the knife "embossed" (I think I already posted pictures of it here in this topic).
Sorry for the first two pictures, but it is nearly impossible to take good ones, because of how the panel is made.
Nice Find...

Der kleinste Werkzeugkasten der Welt :rofl:
(Smallest Toolbox of the world)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 17, 2014, 04:45:23 AM
Reposting from "...the latest SAK" thread.

Some recent Wengers....

A unused/mint in box blue Traveler, a Basic 09 (Forester) and a Backpacker II.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/RecentWengers_zps07430e5a.jpg)

....and the Journeyman.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/WengerJourneyman_zps8cef1610.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 03:43:58 AM
OK, going back to topic, here is an interesting find.
I admit that I didn't know the correct english name for it, but after some search I think it is called Lenticular Print.
Basically, the image changes as long as you change your point of view.
In this case, the knife changes from closed to fully opened.
I think this panel is probably from the late '80's, first 90's.
Goes well toghether with the other vintage display I have, with the knife "embossed" (I think I already posted pictures of it here in this topic).
Sorry for the first two pictures, but it is nearly impossible to take good ones, because of how the panel is made.

I confirm : between 1986 and 1990 !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 03:48:14 AM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr110.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr210.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr310.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr410.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr510.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 20, 2014, 04:32:14 AM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr110.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr210.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr310.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr410.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr510.jpg)

What model is that "fatboy"?   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 20, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr110.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr210.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr310.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr410.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/gr510.jpg)

What model is that "fatboy"?   :cheers:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No, its of course called the GIANT RANGER
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 11:32:09 AM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !


What model is that "fatboy"?   :cheers:

It's a joke ! I did it myself with 3 Rangers (1 Rangergrip 71 and 1 Ranger 73 and a OH serrated blade of 1 Ranger 78)...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Grass on October 20, 2014, 12:18:49 PM
That is very cool. I'd buy that! :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 01:06:03 PM
That is very cool. I'd buy that! :)

Sure ?

I can make one for you but It's expensive, I need to buy 3 knives 179,04 € + Shipping cost around 28€ (it's heavy)...
So I think it's only a "curiosity monster" to show because this knife will never exist !
But if you really want one, it's possible to do it and I can make it for you !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 20, 2014, 03:29:16 PM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !


What model is that "fatboy"?   :cheers:

It's a joke ! I did it myself with 3 Rangers (1 Rangergrip 71 and 1 Ranger 73 and a OH serrated blade of 1 Ranger 78)...

That's very neat!!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 20, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !


What a monster!  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 06:55:56 PM
The biggest Ranger in the world : 6 layers !


What a monster!  :D

If I find a big file (like on RangerGrip 88 recue) I will add it to have a 7 layers !

But it will be enough because I have not guenine rivets bigger !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 20, 2014, 08:20:17 PM
Hats off to you jc  :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.

It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me  :drool:  :drool:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 08:50:01 PM
Hats off to you jc  :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.

It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me  :drool:  :drool:

Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).

For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).

But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada,  you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 20, 2014, 09:07:36 PM
Hats off to you jc  :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.

It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me  :drool:  :drool:

Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).

For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).

But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada,  you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:

You would need:
Alinghi: Marlin Spike and nice serated Blade
Gardener: For the shears
Mike Horn: Plane Blade, Sheepfoot Blade (serated), short File
Electrician: Hawkbill Blade
Ranger 50 or Hunter: gutting / safety Blade and wood saw
Rescue / East Ranger or Handyman: Long metal file
Oboe

That gives:
3 OHO Blades
Gutting Blade
Oboe Blade
2 Metal Files
Pliers
Shears
Marlin Spike

:rofl: 10 layers ranger, roughly 8 cm thick :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on October 20, 2014, 09:30:04 PM
Hats off to you jc  :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.

It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me  :drool:  :drool:

Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).

For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).

But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada,  you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:

You would need:
Alinghi: Marlin Spike and nice serated Blade
Gardener: For the shears
Mike Horn: Plane Blade, Sheepfoot Blade (serated), short File
Electrician: Hawkbill Blade
Ranger 50 or Hunter: gutting / safety Blade and wood saw
Rescue / East Ranger or Handyman: Long metal file
Oboe

That gives:
3 OHO Blades
Gutting Blade
Oboe Blade
2 Metal Files
Pliers
Shears
Marlin Spike

:rofl: 10 layers ranger, roughly 8 cm thick :rofl:

EEK.... :ahhh
So basically we're looking at £500+  :whistle:
Still, it would be an incredible addition  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 09:32:54 PM
Hats off to you jc  :hatsoff:
In theory how wide could you go??
I'd love a fully loaded ranger with both the shears and pliers layer, plus all the variations of blades including the mike horn serrated pattern.
What do you think such a beast would cost and would the pins be able to cope with the weight or would it sag.

It really would be the ultimate Wenger for me  :drool:  :drool:

No problem ! I can do it (3 days of work). Just send me knives and money on my paypal account LOL !

Well, with guenine Wenger rivet max wide is 3.50 cm (1.38 inch) but with other special rivets there is no weight and no wide limits (see the Wenger Giant !).

For all blades and all tools of Ranger knives, first you must to buy all Wenger knives to take blades and tools you need, then you have to make special rivets. I'm not sure it's still possible to buy all knives you need (In Europe I'm pretty sure it's impossible).

But if you can find all knives needed in US or in Canada,  you can send them to me and I will make this "monster" for you !
I still have a Mike Horn :pok:

You would need:
Alinghi: Marlin Spike and nice serated Blade
Gardener: For the shears
Mike Horn: Plane Blade, Sheepfoot Blade (serated), short File
Electrician: Hawkbill Blade
Ranger 50 or Hunter: gutting / safety Blade and wood saw
Rescue / East Ranger or Handyman: Long metal file
Oboe

That gives:
3 OHO Blades
Gutting Blade
Oboe Blade
2 Metal Files
Pliers
Shears
Marlin Spike

:rofl: 10 layers ranger, roughly 8 cm thick :rofl:

No problem, I can do it (3 days of work for a good adjustment), just send me knives and... money on my paypal account ! LOL
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 20, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
Quote
EEK.... :ahhh
So basically we're looking at £500+  :whistle:
Still, it would be an incredible addition  :think:

€500 is enough ! For work...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Grass on October 21, 2014, 10:22:08 AM
Thinking about it, the main appeal on my end of the giant here is that it includes both the heavy duty scissors and heavy duty pliers. The range is screaming out for both of these on the same knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on October 21, 2014, 10:28:45 PM

nice :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 21, 2014, 10:38:00 PM

nice :cheers:

Thanks North Man and thanks to all for your congrats.

In reality, it is rather easy, it is enough to know how to make a head to a rivet and to respect the order of assembly of springs, blades, tools, etc.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on October 21, 2014, 10:54:43 PM
If I find a big file (like on RangerGrip 88 recue) I will add it to have a 7 layers !
Then would be the perfect monster, of course with corkscrew instead of phillips :facepalm:
For phillips you should go with bit driver in scales hole :D

Btw :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 21, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
If I find a big file (like on RangerGrip 88 recue) I will add it to have a 7 layers !
Then would be the perfect monster, of course with corkscrew instead of phillips :facepalm:
For phillips you should go with bit driver in scales hole :D

Btw :2tu:

Next time I will make an other with corkscrew AND phillips ! LOL
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on October 21, 2014, 11:17:04 PM
Next time I will make an other with corkscrew AND phillips ! LOL
:D :D and don't forget the metal saw ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 21, 2014, 11:42:02 PM
Next time I will make an other with corkscrew AND phillips ! LOL
:D :D and don't forget the metal saw ;)

Of course ! But a metal saw is more difficult to find than a corkscrew or phillips screwdriver !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 31, 2014, 11:47:42 PM
Hello All !

Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...

I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)

The three objectives of this tool are :

- 1) quickly find a reference to a knife from his tools
- 2) show all known variants of the same knife
- 3) and YOU make me happy too !

First download this software (No virus nor spyware !) and copy it on your desktop : HERE (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.exe)

Run the software and accept the licence agreement. It works like an Excel sheet :

- You can filter tools and blades (gray arrow under tools and blades command bar)
- Clic on the knife icon to see dedails

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wiki_w10.png)

I hope this french tutorial will help you ! But don't worry, the software is in English !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/110.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/210.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/310.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/410.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/510.jpg)


And now enjoy !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on November 01, 2014, 12:27:28 PM
Hello All !

Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...

I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)

The three objectives of this tool are :

- 1) quickly find a reference to a knife from his tools
- 2) show all known variants of the same knife
- 3) and YOU make me happy too !

First download this software (No virus nor spyware !) and copy it on your desktop : HERE (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.exe)

Run the software and accept the licence agreement. It works like an Excel sheet :

- You can filter tools and blades (gray arrow under tools and blades command bar)
- Clic on the knife icon to see dedails
And now enjoy !
Thanks, that is awesome! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 01, 2014, 06:37:14 PM

wow seems beautiful!
can't wait to try it on my PC at home
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 01, 2014, 07:57:49 PM

wow seems beautiful!
can't wait to try it on my PC at home

I hope you will add missing knives on Sakwiki ! LOL !!!

Ho it's a bad joke... Sakwiki is the best and I love it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 02, 2014, 09:44:23 PM
And now... The new database for Wenger 120 mm !

You can dowbload the software from ---> HERE ! (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_120_mm.exe)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wiki_w11.png)

Enjoy !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 03, 2014, 06:22:47 PM

I hope you will add missing knives on Sakwiki ! LOL !!!

Ho it's a bad joke... Sakwiki is the best and I love it.

Not really a joke.
The wiki is still missing tons of knives (Wengers), and there are still errors here and there that needs to be corrected.
Nikola was updating a lot recently, while I'm well behind my to-do list and it was ages ago when I made my last edits. 
:td: to myself.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 03, 2014, 09:28:57 PM

I hope you will add missing knives on Sakwiki ! LOL !!!

Ho it's a bad joke... Sakwiki is the best and I love it.

Not really a joke.
The wiki is still missing tons of knives (Wengers), and there are still errors here and there that needs to be corrected.
Nikola was updating a lot recently, while I'm well behind my to-do list and it was ages ago when I made my last edits. 
:td: to myself.

Yes I know that, and I know it's difficult and very long to do...

With the last Wiki 120 mm you can add lot of photos and serial numbers on Sakwiki Wenger 120 mm.
If I have enough time, next will be 95 mm and after 85 mm !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dragon Lord on November 03, 2014, 11:03:36 PM
Hello All !

Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...

I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)

The three objectives of this tool are :

- 1) quickly find a reference to a knife from his tools
- 2) show all known variants of the same knife
- 3) and YOU make me happy too !

First download this software (No virus nor spyware !) and copy it on your desktop : HERE (http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.exe)

Run the software and accept the licence agreement. It works like an Excel sheet :

- You can filter tools and blades (gray arrow under tools and blades command bar)
- Clic on the knife icon to see dedails

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/wiki_w10.png)

I hope this french tutorial will help you ! But don't worry, the software is in English !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/110.jpg)



And now enjoy !

Thanks really usefull. 

 :salute:

Just to be told you MUST have excel 2007 or higer to use it.  I use starter and does not work   :oops:

But really is a great idea and I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 03, 2014, 11:14:06 PM

Thanks really usefull. 

 :salute:

Just to be told you MUST have excel 2007 or higer to use it.  I use starter and does not work   :oops:

But really is a great idea and I appreciate it.

Yes, you need to have  Excel 2007 or higher or free viewer for Excel !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 08, 2014, 06:51:27 AM
Swiss Army Knight vs Knights Templar....

 :duel:
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/AM6_zpsd99be633.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: coSAK on November 08, 2014, 10:56:35 AM
Ave Maria!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: derekmac on November 08, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Very nice!

Sent from my SGH-I527M using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 08, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
Ave Maria!

 8)   :cheers:


Very nice!

Sent from my SGH-I527M using Tapatalk

Thank you D-Mac!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 08, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
Swiss Army Knight vs Knights Templar....

 :duel:
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/AM6_zpsd99be633.jpg)

So pretty and so cigare !

Do you work for Fidel Castro LOL ?

 >:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on November 08, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
 :rofl:  Thanks! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: matzesu on November 11, 2014, 06:25:36 PM
Now i have my Original Wenger Evogrip E557 since 3 Months, i think its the Best Swiss Army Knife i ever had..
Ok, i ditnt had much Swiss Army Knifes in my Live; i have a Huntsman Lite (whit a LED Lite which was quite usefull ) a 111 cm Workchamp,
But the Evogrip is for me the best because the Lockable Blade  and the Other Tings which made it diverent from a Vic..

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 13, 2014, 07:11:54 PM
Just found two interesting Wenger catalogs: they are the official Wenger catalogs for Germany for 2012 and 2013.
Wenger always had a different website for Germany, and while almost all the knives were the same as other European countries, all the catalog numbers were different.
These catalogs are very important for the research work I had been doing about the Patagonian Expedition Race series, which I'll implement on the wiki, but first will post here.
Expect to see some small differences which I'm sure not everybody did notice.
Interesting to see (oh, well, actually not to see), in those catalogs, was the missing Evowood Pear.
So it seems it was specifically made for (the distribution by) Herbertz, as it apperas only in its 2013 catalog (available in the wiki).
Another nice picture I wanted to post here, is a direct reference to the SUI1 name of the Alinghi model, from the 2012 catalog.
I knew that it came from the boat name, but I think it is nice to see it actually printed on the boat sail.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/O6XrZX0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/da6b5Ne.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cdv1962 on November 30, 2014, 06:19:26 AM
jcfiguet you da man.   Tu la "hommes".

Your Wenger Classic 66 with the wood scales is one the coolest Swiss army knives on the planet.  I bow down to it COOL.

My Classic 66 pales in comparision.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 01, 2014, 12:21:04 AM
Some lovin of geriatric Wengers happening here.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20141201_091625_zpsseoek3rn.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2014, 12:39:38 AM
Some lovin of geriatric Wengers happening here.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20141201_091625_zpsseoek3rn.jpg)

Nice !

But need to be restored to have better aspect...

Coul you please show other faces of blades to see the year ? The last one is a Coutellerie Suisse but I never saw this stamp on a 1908 model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 01, 2014, 01:12:04 AM
Been wanting Wenger examples with an inline flat phillips and a universal wrench. Finally snagged  a Cyclist and a LL Bean Swiss Sportsman off the bay for cheap.  Pix when they finally arrive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 01, 2014, 01:34:48 AM
Nice !
But need to be restored to have better aspect...
Coul you please show other faces of blades to see the year ? The last one is a Coutellerie Suisse but I never saw this stamp on a 1908 model.
Here's a link to a thread re the Three Face logo:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37652.msg605267.html#msg605267

Not quite sure what you mean by a 1908 model - Is that when they moved from wooden to fibre handles?

However I have one of the old 100mm 'Soldiers' with this stamp.
It does not have any other markings/tang stamps eg Waffenkontrolle, Year Stamp, P stamp etc etc
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2014, 01:58:13 AM
Nice !
But need to be restored to have better aspect...
Coul you please show other faces of blades to see the year ? The last one is a Coutellerie Suisse but I never saw this stamp on a 1908 model.
Here's a link to a thread re the Three Face logo:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37652.msg605267.html#msg605267

Not quite sure what you mean by a 1908 model - Is that when they moved from wooden to fibre handles?

However I have one of the old 100mm 'Soldiers' with this stamp.
It does not have any other markings/tang stamps eg Waffenkontrolle, Year Stamp, P stamp etc etc

Well, this stamp was one of the first stamp of "Coutellerie Suisse" (the name before Wenger). When "Coutellerie Suisse" became "Wenger", the new society used this stamp from time to time from 1895's to 1940's sometimes with "Wenger" or "Wenger Tahara" or "Wenger Delémont", etc.
Coutellerie Suisse used this stamp alone or with "Coutellerie Suisse".

Model 1908 is the model of swiss army knives between 1908 to 1950 (see http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/ to have more informations about swiss soldier's knives)

I'm curious because it's the first time I see this stamp (alone) on this model of knife and I would like to see if a date is printed or not on the other face of the blade. This case is very interesting.

Did you by this knife in Europe ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 01, 2014, 02:29:08 AM
According to Thierry Deladoey, its a 1901 variant.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 01, 2014, 02:36:18 AM
Hello All !
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
And now enjoy !

This is a really, really great tool jcf
- Je vous remercie mille fois
Et j'aime baucoup le contrat de license  :D  >:D - Je vais jamais pirater le logiciel

Hey - But this definitely needs its own thread
- Can you post up a new thread for your wonderful tool so that others can find it easily
- Call it 'Wenger Model Configuration/selection tool' - or such like!

Je vois aussi que  vous aimé Le Jungle Book - mois aussi - Baloo est mon hero

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2014, 02:45:18 AM
According to Thierry Deladoey, its a 1901 variant.

Sorry, but no it's not : 1901 variant has a blade like 1890 model. The defference between 1901 model and 1890 model is only handles : Ebony or black oak for 1890 models and fibers for 1901 models.

You can also find fibers handles on 1908 models an 1951 models.

1890 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1890/Mod_1890.jpg)


1901 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1901/Mod_1901.jpg)


1908 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1908/Mod_1908.png)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 01, 2014, 02:56:27 AM
This is the other sides of the three knives.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/5fd25d79-650d-4c15-81e7-8d2b47332096_zpsc50204e0.jpg)

As you can see, there is no stamp on the back of the "three faces" knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 01, 2014, 03:07:59 AM
Model 1908 is the model of swiss army knives between 1908 to 1950 (see http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/ to have more informations about swiss soldier's knives)

I'm curious because it's the first time I see this stamp (alone) on this model of knife and I would like to see if a date is printed or not on the other face of the blade. This case is very interesting.
Did you by this knife in Europe ?
Yep - Came from the mother country - ie La Suisse!
Definitely no other markings - I double checked - And definitely a 100mm
- But I don't know enough about handle, tool variations etc to be more specific than that!

Aha - Just seen PTR's second post - Look like we have the same/very similar knife!

Hey JCF - Thanks also for the great link - I had never come across that site before - Although I have bought a knife from Robert M :)
Will have a good look later today :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2014, 03:22:07 AM
Hello All !
Since a long time I dreamed to make this little Wiki tool ...
I started with the Wiki of Wengers 130 mm (the Rangers)
And now enjoy !

This is a really, really great tool jcf
- Je vous remercie mille fois
Et j'aime baucoup le contrat de license  :D  >:D - Je vais jamais pirater le logiciel

Hey - But this definitely needs its own thread
- Can you post up a new thread for your wonderful tool so that others can find it easily
- Call it 'Wenger Model Configuration/selection tool' - or such like!

Je vois aussi que  vous aimé Le Jungle Book - mois aussi - Baloo est mon hero

Thanks again.

Thanks a lot! And your french is perfect !
I will post a new thread later, when all 85mm and 65mm wenger will be checked, perhaps in 1 or 2 month
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 01, 2014, 03:33:02 AM
According to Thierry Deladoey, its a 1901 variant.

Sorry, but no it's not : 1901 variant has a blade like 1890 model. The defference between 1901 model and 1890 model is only handles : Ebony or black oak for 1890 models and fibers for 1901 models.

You can also find fibers handles on 1908 models an 1951 models.

1890 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1890/Mod_1890.jpg)


1901 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1901/Mod_1901.jpg)


1908 model :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/1908/Mod_1908.png)

Thanks for the clarification. Thought I had something super-rare, but its only rare.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 01, 2014, 03:46:19 AM
This is the other sides of the three knives.

As you can see, there is no stamp on the back of the "three faces" knife.

Thanks a lot !

My analyse :

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/soldiers/expertise1908.jpg)

1°) Rare and expensive !  Probably a civilian version of a soldier knife 1950's (carbon steel). Victorinox and Wenger produced civilian versions of soldier knives with a few small differences to avoid confusion (no Waffenkontrole on scales or no date stamp or stainless steel blade, etc.) always with something less or something more.


2°) Common, 1940 as indicated


3°) Very rare, never referenced (as far as I know)... Certainly one of the last soldier knife produced under the brand "Coutellerie Suisse" just before the company name changed to "Wenger & Co" in 1908... Very interesting.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 08, 2014, 10:14:25 PM
New additions. Black Swiss Sportsman and Traveler.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/2blkWengers_zps724ca976.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2014, 05:27:40 AM
Who know this "knife" ?

I have never seen it before...

It's a 85 mm Wenger without logo, with only 1 layer, none micro-serrated scisors (like Victorinox)...
probably manufactured between 1976 and 1990
Verry strange !

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/110.jpg)
(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/210.jpg)
(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/310.jpg)

The spring is very strong (never seen on a 85 mm Wenger)...

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/410.jpg)
(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/510.jpg)
(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/610.jpg)
(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/12/24/75/57/710.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 09, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
Might be a mod, could we get a closeup of the peening on the pins.

I have a 1.02.03 Standard and the scissors are not serrated. The "no backtools" scales could come from a Diplomat or Apprentice.

Would be not a bad option to add scissors to your EDC if you had something like a Rebar as a MT.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 09, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
I'd say mod, the backside pins look like home pinned. Not sure about the non serrated scissors though.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 09, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
Interesting.
I think that the removal of the serrations from the scissors could be a mod as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on December 09, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
My dad has a 65mm Wenger with no serration on the scissors, so there are two. Not necessarily a mod...

Will take a picture if I remember, next time I'm there.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twrch on December 09, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 09, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.

Here's mine.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OldWenger_zps84c306d0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2014, 02:31:51 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.

Here's mine.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OldWenger_zps84c306d0.jpg)

Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 09, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.

Here's mine.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/OldWenger_zps84c306d0.jpg)

Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...

Thank you! I couldn't remember if they were integrated or not.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 09, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
Interesting.
I think that the removal of the serrations from the scissors could be a mod as well.

I think I probably should have expressed myself better.
I was not referring to the old style Wenger scissors (see attachment).
These, as far as I know, were NOT serrated.
I was referring to the newer type, with the integrated spring.
These, as far as I know, were ONLY serrated.
---
Ok I see now that jcfiguet  already pointed this, while I was typing
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.

Here's mine.


Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...

Thank you! I couldn't remember if they were integrated or not.

Patent Wenger 1973 : integrated spring on scisors
http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 09, 2014, 02:54:13 PM
Perhaps the very earliest (1972 or so) springless scissors were not serrated.  I have a Monarch from about then with no serrations on the scissors.

Here's mine.


Hello,
Yes of course, but on this Monarch scisors are before 1973 with spring like Victorinox, not with integrated spring.
I have never seen scisors (after 1973) with integrated spring not serrated on Wenger knives...

Thank you! I couldn't remember if they were integrated or not.

Patent Wenger 1973 : integrated spring on scisors
http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf

Thank you sir!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twrch on December 09, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Here's mine.  This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34.  So it certainly could have been modified.  However,  if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job. 

The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year.  At least that's what I believe I remember.  Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 09, 2014, 03:39:43 PM
Here's mine.  This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34.  So it certainly could have been modified.  However,  if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job. 

The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year.  At least that's what I believe I remember.  Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.

In fact, 2 patents exist :

- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf

- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 09, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Here's mine.  This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34.  So it certainly could have been modified.  However,  if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job. 

The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year.  At least that's what I believe I remember.  Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.

In fact, 2 patents exist :

- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf

- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf

Perhaps, there was a transition from the first type scissors to the newer ones, which included a version without serrations.
North Man or Coloswiss could know
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on December 15, 2014, 02:40:21 PM
Here my Wenger Giant
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: GigaHz on December 15, 2014, 02:41:16 PM
Are the blades sharp? Some have unsharpened blades.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on December 15, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
I will check
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 15, 2014, 03:36:44 PM
Might be a mod, could we get a closeup of the peening on the pins.

I have a 1.02.03 Standard and the scissors are not serrated. The "no backtools" scales could come from a Diplomat or Apprentice.

Would be not a bad option to add scissors to your EDC if you had something like a Rebar as a MT.

Didn't you guys see that?

Here's mine.  This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34.  So it certainly could have been modified.  However,  if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job. 

The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year.  At least that's what I believe I remember.  Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.

In fact, 2 patents exist :

- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf

- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf

Perhaps, there was a transition from the first type scissors to the newer ones, which included a version without serrations.
North Man or Coloswiss could know

Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0939_zpsd1bd1874.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0937_zpsd2869a36.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0940_zpsb3f3290d.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0941_zps280b30cc.jpg)

the two scissors side by side

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0942_zps439796b9.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0943_zpseaff784f.jpg)

Here endeth the lesson.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twrch on December 15, 2014, 03:46:19 PM
And an excellent lesson it is too, Professor.  Also, some of what seem to be the earliest ads for the new scissors don't mention serrations or self-sharpening.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 15, 2014, 04:16:46 PM
Might be a mod, could we get a closeup of the peening on the pins.

I have a 1.02.03 Standard and the scissors are not serrated. The "no backtools" scales could come from a Diplomat or Apprentice.

Would be not a bad option to add scissors to your EDC if you had something like a Rebar as a MT.

Didn't you guys see that?

Here's mine.  This knife was purchased off EBAY about a year ago for about $34.  So it certainly could have been modified.  However,  if the scissors were filed, whomever did a machine shop quality job. 

The reason I alluded to 1972 is because I saw a magazine ad showing the then, new style scissors, dated that year.  At least that's what I believe I remember.  Field & Stream oe maybe Boys Life.

In fact, 2 patents exist :

- the first 1972 for scissors (1st version) : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1972_Ciseaux/04-09-1972 CH555730A.pdf

- the second of 1973 with addition of a bevel spring-loaded scissors : http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Wenger/Brevets/1973_Ciseaux/13-03-1973 CH561588.pdf

Perhaps, there was a transition from the first type scissors to the newer ones, which included a version without serrations.
North Man or Coloswiss could know

Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0939_zpsd1bd1874.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0937_zpsd2869a36.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0940_zpsb3f3290d.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0941_zps280b30cc.jpg)

the two scissors side by side

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0942_zps439796b9.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0943_zpseaff784f.jpg)

Here endeth the lesson.

Nice !

I never saw this kind of scisors without serration before...

Just a question : it seems logo are differents on the photos but I'm not sure. Is that the case ?

About Wenger Logos I have the following informations,  but the dates are not accurate

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/FCS/Mutitools/logoswenger.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on December 15, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 15, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
Nope, first time for me. Maybe before the Suisse crosbow shield. Late 40s early 50s? Just guessing though.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 15, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?

Yes !

I saw this logo on knives of 1951 (only this year)

But it could be early or later...

This logo with "Wenger" and the Crossbow is very rare on scales...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 16, 2014, 01:24:06 AM
closeup of the two Wenger crosses from my 1.02.03 standards

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 16, 2014, 01:30:00 AM
closeup of the two Wenger crosses from my 1.02.03 standards

The first logo appears to be paint and the second seems anodized ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 16, 2014, 03:20:51 AM
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?

Headed this way. My Christmas gift to myself.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 16, 2014, 03:27:19 AM
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?

Headed this way. My Christmas gift to myself.

And this is my Christmas gift to myself !

(http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_749478506_Big/autres/victorinox-alox.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 16, 2014, 04:20:53 AM
Any ideas about this old Wenger shield?

Headed this way. My Christmas gift to myself.

And this is my Christmas gift to myself !

(http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_749478506_Big/autres/victorinox-alox.jpg)

Pretty!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on December 16, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
 "Are the blades sharp? Some have unsharpened blades."

Hi. Excuse my English. I looked at knife blades. They are ground, but not the ideally sharp. It is heavy to open and close.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 16, 2014, 09:48:18 AM

Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled.


Good informations on the scissors, thanks

"Are the blades sharp? Some have unsharpened blades."

Hi. Excuse my English. I looked at knife blades. They are ground, but not the ideally sharp. It is heavy to open and close.

I think I read somewhere that only the older models, the ones not available for general sale but only for distributors, had the blades not sharpened.
I don't have a Giant, so I can't confirm
Nice find, by the way!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lowtech on December 16, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
I did once buy 2 unsharpened Rangers in a closeoiut sale - I suppose they were sales samples, too.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on December 16, 2014, 11:42:15 PM
Still very much love ...  :D

Journeyman
(http://s9.postimg.org/bemsu6tbj/image.jpg)
 >:D
(http://s7.postimg.org/f3gyeml8r/image.jpg)
 ;)
(http://s1.postimg.org/fuk45twzz/image.jpg)
 :)
(http://s7.postimg.org/j4y1kadjf/image.jpg)
 :o
(http://s11.postimg.org/rpzjj6qqr/image.jpg)
 :angel:
(http://s17.postimg.org/ntsd9nb8v/image.jpg)
 ::)
(http://s13.postimg.org/on9uj83nb/image.jpg)
 8)
(http://s2.postimg.org/d8haz4c3d/image.jpg)
 :gimme:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 16, 2014, 11:49:48 PM
Really nice!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on December 17, 2014, 12:28:47 AM
Really nice!!!  :cheers:
Love it. As said on that thread, I've always seen it as a perfect companion to TrailGuide or like. It's small, neat ... and has pliers >:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 17, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Photos of the two 1.02.03 Standard Wengers I have... the first has NO SERRATIONS and the scissors are flat.
The second DOES have serrations and the blades are beveled
.


the two scissors side by side

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_0942_zps439796b9.jpg)


Here endeth the lesson.

So I guess it is time to open the lesson again :D...
... because I had a look at some of my Wenger's

First knife from the left has newer style scissors, with the blade "beveled".
Second and third knife (from the left) have the older "flat" scissors.

(http://i.imgur.com/dyiwXFH.jpg)

All the scissors have serrations ("flat" and "beveled")!
You can see here: flat scissors---serration

(http://i.imgur.com/n1tnvu0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on December 17, 2014, 03:15:03 PM
 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh  one could have an entire sub-collection of scissor types.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twrch on December 17, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
That's what I like to collect, tool iterations.  Wenger is great for compasses, wood saws and apparently, scissors.  I saw one of the old flat scissors, serrated, like Basilio's above, at the state surplus store Monday.  It has a 5 turn cork screw.  It was in terrible condition, not worth 5 bucks, but I may go back and get it for the scissors. 

We need to figure out the dates for these various scissor iterations.

Sorry if this makes little sense.  I am hysterical this evening.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 19, 2014, 04:27:53 AM
Wenger mail (plus a stray Vic). Arrived today.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/mailcall_zps83db3c26.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 19, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
Wenger Setter

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/WengerPointer-Setter_zpsae8bcb1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: magentus on December 19, 2014, 04:47:22 PM
Sweet! Nice pic as usual SAK Guy  :salute:

Is it going to be a user?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 19, 2014, 04:58:06 PM
Sweet! Nice pic as usual SAK Guy  :salute:

Is it going to be a user?

Thanks buddy!  :salute:

I don't know. Asked about rarity/scarcity in another thread but it's an excellent combination of tools/features in a nice 85mm size. It's growing on me...might see some light duty. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on December 19, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
http://www.goldentelemedia.com/e-catalogue/Lepus_Offers/#/4/

See page 5.

The price for the 57 looks good. Is it?

I may pop by tomorrow...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 19, 2014, 08:17:55 PM
http://www.goldentelemedia.com/e-catalogue/Lepus_Offers/#/4/

See page 5.

The price for the 57 looks good. Is it?

I may pop by tomorrow...

Nice and cheap !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 10:21:24 PM
Wenger Ranger 106 just received in the mail today and NIB.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 19, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
Wenger Ranger 106 just received in the mail today and NIB.

120 mm of Wenger are more and more difficult to find !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 10:48:17 PM
Wenger Ranger 106 just received in the mail today and NIB.

120 mm of Wenger are more and more difficult to find !

I just talked to a guy who has several of these NIB and even some [Rangergrip] Wengergrip 51's and 76's.

I really like the blades on the 120's,they have soul.I've owned a Ranger 08 Field Dresser for 25 years and its blade,like all of the 120's,is soulful.


Even though I do like the newer Wengernox 130 Models their blades are pedestrian.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 19, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???

I never saw these knives !!!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 10:55:23 PM
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???

I never saw these knives !!!


Wenger 51 and 76 respectively.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 19, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???

I never saw these knives !!!


Wenger 51 and 76 respectively.

OK ! I understood 1951 and 1976 !!! LOL

But what is the differences between 51 and 76 ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 11:17:56 PM
Rangergrip 51's and 76's ???

I never saw these knives !!!


Wenger 51 and 76 respectively.

OK ! I understood 1951 and 1976 !!! LOL

But what is the differences between 51 and 76 ?

That's a good question.I don't see any,other than one comes in a clamshell box.

I mis-named these models.They are the Wengergrip 51 & 76,not Rangergrip.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 19, 2014, 11:24:26 PM
As far as I know there are 2 models:

- Wengergrip 76.01 with corkscrew 

- Wengergrip 76.02 with Philips screwdriver instead of the corkscrew 

But there may be other models !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 11:43:33 PM
I found these on SAKWiki.They are also known as the Swissgrip.

http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissGrip

16963 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch, display box
16964 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, display box
16965 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box
16966 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch
16967 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch
16968 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter
1 76 02 02 Wenger: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, SOSAK KoY 2011.
1 76 51 02 Wenger: Black, Corkscrew, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 19, 2014, 11:55:32 PM
I have this 120 on the way.

It's a Ranger Camo 05.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 20, 2014, 01:05:21 AM
I found these on SAKWiki.They are also known as the Swissgrip.

http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+SwissGrip

16963 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch, display box
16964 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, display box
16965 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box
16966 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Leather pouch
16967 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch
16968 Wenger N.A.: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter
1 76 02 02 Wenger: Black, Phillips, bit-adapter, 3-bits, Nylon pouch, SOSAK KoY 2011.
1 76 51 02 Wenger: Black, Corkscrew, bit-adapter, 3-bits, display box

Lot of references, but finaly only 2 knives : 1 with Corkscrew and 1 with Phillips
And I'm not sure that 1 76 51 02 is the good reference
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on December 20, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
Poped by the dealer and got a few things.
17 Evowood, 18 Yellow Evogrip locking blade, Wenger Caran knife-pen gift set

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9512.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9511.jpg)

And a couple of Wenger display stands; one small plastic stand a and a larger wooden one with foam for standing up knives in.

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/jladks/toys/IMG_9523.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 20, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Amazons
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/AmazonSnife_zps6ace00c4.jpg)

Ranger 02
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/ranger_zps13e818c3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: marduk on December 21, 2014, 03:57:18 AM

Lot of references, but finaly only 2 knives : 1 with Corkscrew and 1 with Phillips
And I'm not sure that 1 76 51 02 is the good reference
    **********
1 76 51 02 is the Wenger number printed on the box that came w/the SwissGrip.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 21, 2014, 05:14:43 PM

Lot of references, but finaly only 2 knives : 1 with Corkscrew and 1 with Phillips
And I'm not sure that 1 76 51 02 is the good reference
    **********
1 76 51 02 is the Wenger number printed on the box that came w/the SwissGrip.

This model was offered in black and red scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 21, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
I will have a look tomorrow in my catalogs for the correct catalog numbers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on December 22, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
I had a quick look at the catalogs available, and I think I now understand what happened here.
The names Wengergrip 51 and Wengergrip 76 were first used on this discussion probably because they were found on this website (it is the the well known us branch of the danish suppliers of the colored Victorinox cadets)
http://thegoodstuffshop.com/swissarmyknives.aspx

The 2005 and 2006 european catalogs do use the same names
(http://i.imgur.com/aJyIMfq.jpg)
But, as you can see, there is no visual confirmation if the model "51" had corkscrew or phillips driver.
I believe, based on some web research, that the model 51 was just the same as model 76 (so with corkscrew). The only difference is that it was offered with the plastic box and kit.

The more clear image comes from the european 2007 catalog
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCm8Q38.jpg)
which uses the same names as referred by Jean Claude.
Model 76 with corkscrew and model 76.02 with phillips.

The 2008 catalog only shows model 76.02 (with phillips)
(http://i.imgur.com/RDcPLGy.jpg)

So the bottom line is: the wiki is probably confusing, and, in my opinion, these should be the identifiers to show:
1.76.01.02 Wengergrip 76 (corkscrew)
1.76.02.02 Wewngergrip 76.02 (phillips)

and then mentioning this, but only as a subvariant of model 76
1.76.51.02 Wengergrip 51 (same as Wengergrip 76, only changing the packaging).
What do you think?


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 22, 2014, 11:48:17 PM
I believe your explanation is right on the money.

Those photos I received in my email look identical.


Wengergrip 51 Multitool

Super heavy tool with 12 functions
In hard gift box
Contains:
Flat-nose plier
Locking blade
Bottleopener
Can Opener
Screwdriver with safety lock
Wire bender
Saw for wood
Small screwdriver
Toolholder
Corkscrew
Metal file
Hacksaw blade

Wengergrip 76

measure: 6,1 x 1,7 x 1 inches - 155 x 42 x 23 mm
knife blade: 3,8 x 0,7 x 0,1 inches - 96 x 17 x 2 mm
weight: 10,8 oz - 305 gram

Super heavy tool with 12 functions
Contains:
Flat-nose plier
Locking blade
Bottleopener
Can Opener
Screwdriver with safety lock
Wire bender
Saw for wood
Small screwdriver
Toolholder
Screwdriver [I'm assuming this is the phillips driver]
Metal file
Hacksaw blade
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 23, 2014, 07:21:17 AM
I had a quick look at the catalogs available, and I think I now understand what happened here.
The names Wengergrip 51 and Wengergrip 76 were first used on this discussion probably because they were found on this website (it is the the well known us branch of the danish suppliers of the colored Victorinox cadets)
http://thegoodstuffshop.com/swissarmyknives.aspx

The 2005 and 2006 european catalogs do use the same names
(http://i.imgur.com/aJyIMfq.jpg)
But, as you can see, there is no visual confirmation if the model "51" had corkscrew or phillips driver.
I believe, based on some web research, that the model 51 was just the same as model 76 (so with corkscrew). The only difference is that it was offered with the plastic box and kit.

The more clear image comes from the european 2007 catalog
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCm8Q38.jpg)
which uses the same names as referred by Jean Claude.
Model 76 with corkscrew and model 76.02 with phillips.

The 2008 catalog only shows model 76.02 (with phillips)
(http://i.imgur.com/RDcPLGy.jpg)

So the bottom line is: the wiki is probably confusing, and, in my opinion, these should be the identifiers to show:
1.76.01.02 Wengergrip 76 (corkscrew)
1.76.02.02 Wewngergrip 76.02 (phillips)

and then mentioning this, but only as a subvariant of model 76
1.76.51.02 Wengergrip 51 (same as Wengergrip 76, only changing the packaging).
What do you think?

Thanks Basilio !

It's difficult to know exactly what reference for what Wenger Grip ! And I think lot of references are like "knife with pouch" or "with case" or "with pouch and with case", speclial series like the Multitool one, etc...

Merry Christmas to all !

Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on December 26, 2014, 04:58:11 AM
Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg.html)
I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.


Wenger Matterhorn
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg.html)


Two phillips? Wenger you sillies!!!!! :D
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg.html)

I love the Matterhorn. It's going to be a great hiking knife. With a perfect width, no keyring, classic scales, no blade lock tab sticking out, and flush backsprings (catch on victorinox!) this is the most comfortable sak to use ever!

Wenger Fly Fisherman
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg.html)

2D Phillips!
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg.html)
I love this knife. It's going to be used on many fishing trips. Look at the last picture closely though. I wonder if anything might be missing? Perhaps a way to dislodge debris from teeth, or tweeze? Nah that can't be it. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 26, 2014, 05:04:23 AM
Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
...

I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.

...


Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on December 26, 2014, 05:06:10 AM

Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
...

I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.

...


Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
They look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 26, 2014, 05:16:40 AM

Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
...

I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.

...


Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
They look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.

You must know some thing :
Soldiers knives betteen 1908 and 1950 are allways carbon steel blades and you must find a "waffen kontrole" stamp on the scale side of the can opener.
If no "waffen kontrole" stamp or no year stamp on the blade or the blade is stainless steel, it's a civilian version of soldier knife.
You have more informations here : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/autres-couteaux/couteaux-civils at the end of the page.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nhoj on December 26, 2014, 05:18:55 AM


Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
...

I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.

...


Your 1940 Wenger has carbon steel blades or stainless steel blades ?
They look like stainless but I'm not entirely sure.

You must know some thing :
Soldiers knives betteen 1908 and 1950 are allways carbon steel blades and you must find a "waffen kontrole" stamp on the scale side of the can opener.
If no "waffen kontrole" stamp or no year stamp on the blade or the blade is stainless steel, it's a civilian version of soldier knife.
You have more informations here : http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/autres-couteaux/couteaux-civils (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/autres-couteaux/couteaux-civils) at the end of the page.
Yes mine is a civilian one. It has no stamp on the scale. Now I know it's stainless. Merci
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 26, 2014, 05:23:18 AM
Some new Wengers!!!

1940 Wenger
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/6719E481-5634-429C-B33D-0354229AE8C9_zpspqbi42vg.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/AAF8EFE0-E16A-458F-B474-BCBE6EA4E322_zpskpjupayu.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/72B5A5A4-3DEC-4EC1-BB7B-EDBC0C08F1CE_zps6cdmqbgn.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/44D452CB-65C0-4E6F-B5DE-A32CF7C2D26B_zpsyxgtd0zx.jpg.html)
I wish they made these today, I would definitely use one! I love the clip point blade and how thick it is. The weight and heft behind this knife is great! I even used the old can opener. Once it got started it actually worked great! It did leave a dangerous jagged metal edge though.


Wenger Matterhorn
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A8E3EABF-1680-4099-BC16-85CC67E5D407_zpsvqagkqxb.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A01DE6F0-A746-4A5D-8FC5-7C8EFE0A68AB_zpsmeaz08mw.jpg.html)


Two phillips? Wenger you sillies!!!!! :D
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A1C58A70-CE5A-4126-B492-7ADE26CDD4CE_zpsnnhzmedp.jpg.html)

I love the Matterhorn. It's going to be a great hiking knife. With a perfect width, no keyring, classic scales, no blade lock tab sticking out, and flush backsprings (catch on victorinox!) this is the most comfortable sak to use ever!

Wenger Fly Fisherman
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/88FDD845-43C8-45DF-B907-4EDA291B1A69_zpsxchv0o3w.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/42A4B933-AABE-4E14-9D25-4E53B07957E7_zpsrdawbmfb.jpg.html)

2D Phillips!
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/240F1CBF-FF39-49EB-B0FA-7DE8792703EF_zpszs5nrlw9.jpg.html)
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy110/johnwsjr3/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/johnwsjr3/media/A55A3205-EDAE-4259-BEC9-E3BCCC9511A0_zpsyobbpzuh.jpg.html)
I love this knife. It's going to be used on many fishing trips. Look at the last picture closely though. I wonder if anything might be missing? Perhaps a way to dislodge debris from teeth, or tweeze? Nah that can't be it. :D

 :drool: :tu: :drool: :tu: :drool: :tu: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on December 26, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
In case anyone is after one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371222586947
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on December 26, 2014, 01:07:16 PM
In case anyone is after one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371222586947

Ho no ! Too big for me !!!
 :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on December 26, 2014, 05:21:29 PM
My new Camo Wenger Ranger 05.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 27, 2014, 12:12:09 AM
In case anyone is after one of these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371222586947

A neat looking display piece, but apparently originally for Wenger watches.  Holders for the watches fit into the holes in the top of the display.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Jothra on December 27, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
My Standard Issue.

(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a634/daikaijujothra/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2014122728826_zps23c9bd89.jpg)
It needs a tiny fedora and bullwhip.

I've been carrying it for a year. In case anyone's keeping score, it has passed the Hammered Like a Chisel test.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 29, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
Couple of Wengers in the mail today!  :D

Tradesman & another Journeyman
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Tradesman-Journeyman_zpsdbe2c16f.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on January 27, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Wenger Grip 74.822

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f7RJIXdz8XU/VMfnrlMB0hI/AAAAAAAAMCg/bxENsXZB6B8/s800/179_1_Wenger-Grip-gelb_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NYvnItckg2w/VMfnsv70HUI/AAAAAAAAMCY/SJueHy9YYYY/s800/DSCN3127_r.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FoOEswvecUM/VMfnsuQqr0I/AAAAAAAAMCU/ieoR24WeDPI/s800/DSCN3129_r.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r0YvMdkUg48/VMfntUK89jI/AAAAAAAAMCQ/TFbtP3ZKm8c/s800/DSCN3140_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on January 28, 2015, 04:23:00 PM
Wenger Grip 74.822


Nice.
Did you order from Eastern Europe, or was it available locally?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on January 29, 2015, 11:10:46 PM
Wenger Grip 74.822


Nice.
Did you order from Eastern Europe, or was it available locally?

I found it in a shop in Switzerland.  :climber:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on January 30, 2015, 01:31:43 AM
A bunch of beauties on this page :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Luna Knife on January 31, 2015, 12:49:07 PM
The 130 mm Ranger series have to be the best outdoor folding knife ever made
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 31, 2015, 02:11:18 PM
The 130 mm Ranger series have to be the best outdoor folding knife ever made

Yeah, I need some of those....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 02, 2015, 09:19:20 PM

Beautiful knives!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 03, 2015, 11:11:39 AM
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.


(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on February 03, 2015, 12:23:02 PM
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.

Whoa - Nice one CS - What a beauty  :D
What on earth is that round ended blade?
Not the infamous butter spreader from 70 years ago??
But it looks like the inside edge is open or has a slot??

Looks like  a name engraved on it as well ??

Hang onto those old Wengers - Gotta be rarer than - although not as poular as -  their Vic cousins
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 03, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.


Beautiful Cap!!!   :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ducttapetech on February 03, 2015, 03:08:28 PM
Very beautiful!

Nate

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 03, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
Very nice Capt'n  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 03, 2015, 03:34:08 PM
Wonderfull 50's or 60's knife !

You sould restore it with guenine scales !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: North Man on February 03, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.


(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03416_zps37d0d13d.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03417_zps2ef8cbfa.jpg.html)
(http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/ChadV_2010/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg) (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/ChadV_2010/media/Knife%20and%20MT%202/DSC03418_zpse179b612.jpg.html)

A treasure for sure!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on February 03, 2015, 11:14:45 PM
One of the few Wengers I own. Oldie, but a goodie. I have been told these are a little rare to have this many layers on one of these.

Whoa - Nice one CS - What a beauty  :D
What on earth is that round ended blade?
Not the infamous butter spreader from 70 years ago??
But it looks like the inside edge is open or has a slot??

Looks like  a name engraved on it as well ??

Hang onto those old Wengers - Gotta be rarer than - although not as poular as -  their Vic cousins


Thanks everyone!

The rounded tool is actually a file on the other side and I believe it was meant to also be a ice/mud scraper if I remember correctly. No slot. Just a weird shadow in the picture.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 04, 2015, 12:01:05 AM
A similar model with less layers, posted on Sakwiki at the center-right of the photo on this 60's catalog : "Early Sportsman Series"

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2229)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 12, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
Telescopic pointers....  Pointer & Manager.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RPyiOB2vvt8/VMfpQOi-eOI/AAAAAAAAMDc/HJl9PJ26G24/s800/DSCN3159_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XzBzUkc4Hws/VMfpQsCcRiI/AAAAAAAAMDk/dn85yravVA0/s800/DSCN3163_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AmYBgnWE6TE/VMfpQt34uJI/AAAAAAAAMDs/yfuOnPYoTJ0/s800/DSCN3166_r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Rich S on February 12, 2015, 10:10:35 PM
Those extending pointers are neat! Wish I knew about them back when I was teaching chemistry. Always had to carry an extending pointer in my shirt pocket.
Rich
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on February 12, 2015, 10:37:15 PM
Martin, does the Manager have the shield on the reverse side or is it completely absent? Don't remember ever seeing a Wenger with reverse shield scales. :think:

Very nice finds. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: victor7000 on February 14, 2015, 11:57:48 PM
Martin, does the Manager have the shield on the reverse side or is it completely absent? Don't remember ever seeing a Wenger with reverse shield scales. :think:

Very nice finds. :hatsoff:

Thanks. No shield!

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zfdLv5DjAVM/VMfpPv037SI/AAAAAAAAMDU/lduM-BzRpfE/s800/177_2_Wenger-Manager-blau-BS_r.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mercury on February 25, 2015, 10:37:31 AM
Those pointers are neat, I've never seen that before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 26, 2015, 05:04:57 AM
Telescopic pointers....  Pointer & Manager.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RPyiOB2vvt8/VMfpQOi-eOI/AAAAAAAAMDc/HJl9PJ26G24/s800/DSCN3159_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XzBzUkc4Hws/VMfpQsCcRiI/AAAAAAAAMDk/dn85yravVA0/s800/DSCN3163_r.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AmYBgnWE6TE/VMfpQt34uJI/AAAAAAAAMDs/yfuOnPYoTJ0/s800/DSCN3166_r.jpg)

Very nice Martin :drool: :drool:
I've been trying to track down those pointers for quite some time now.
Lovely to see them both together.
I get the feeling your Wenger collection would blow my mind  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on February 27, 2015, 11:32:52 PM
Telescopic pointers....  Pointer & Manager.
:2tu: ...  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 06, 2015, 10:24:12 AM
Hi
My Wenger PROF
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Rich S on March 06, 2015, 01:37:16 PM
Love the old Wenger's. Don't like the Vic "Wenger" Evo grips. Does anyone still make a SAK with an extending pointer?
LLAP
Rich
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sf_duke on March 06, 2015, 07:11:16 PM
Thanks to Syph for modding these BO Wenger cigar golfers...with EvoGrips scales.

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc447/sf_duke/Wenger%20BO%20SAK%20Final%203.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 06, 2015, 07:19:02 PM
Hi
My Wenger PROF

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32456.0;attach=142089;image)

Congrats on this nice oldie. :hatsoff:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Professional+4+layers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Higgins617 on March 06, 2015, 07:22:49 PM
I want some of whatever they were smoking over at Wenger, those guys came up with some gonzo stuff
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 11, 2015, 03:46:02 PM
Hi all.
I spotted two very nice and interesting Wenger's.
I think these were never documented before.
Sorry for the not perfect images quality, but I took them with my phone.
--------
The first model is a 65 mm, catalog 1.564.01
As you can see, apart from the unique tools configuration, this knife is actually a Junior model, and has the blade, nail file and even scissors rounded.
I found an old entry on smartknives with a matching catalog number and the generic name "Kindermesser".
Apart from this, I bet nobody had seen this variation before!

(http://i.imgur.com/upQnbfS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lhCVZQ2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4D4L8ZE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1AJ86hj.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/r2a2wG6.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 11, 2015, 03:50:50 PM
Second find, is an unusual 85mm model, catalog 1.547.13.
I saw only once a picture of it some time ago.
Glad I finally found one.
As you can see, not only the tool configuration is interesting, but the removable wrench is completely different from the one found on the rollerblade or snowboard models.
Would be interesting to know what application this wrench was designed for.

(http://i.imgur.com/u71DoYm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/F8X2FvF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gLF4gm0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bDqYCfX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BpvH7aB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Y8RuFKQ.jpg)


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 11, 2015, 04:20:37 PM
Great find!!!!! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 11, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
basilio
It is simply super
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lichan on March 11, 2015, 09:33:55 PM
I'm sure many have already done so, but if you haven't, go to Amazon and read the comments for the Wenger 16999 Swiss Army Knife Giant,
http://www.amazon.com/Wenger-16999-Swiss-Knife-Giant/product-reviews/B001DZTJRQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R2ADECHMOFH9O3

Some are hilarious!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on March 11, 2015, 11:21:13 PM
Hi all.
I spotted two very nice and interesting Wenger's.
I think these were never documented before.
Sorry for the not perfect images quality, but I took them with my phone.
--------
The first model is a 65 mm, catalog 1.564.01
As you can see, apart from the unique tools configuration, this knife is actually a Junior model, and has the blade, nail file and even scissors rounded.
I found an old entry on smartknives with a matching catalog number and the generic name "Kindermesser".
Apart from this, I bet nobody had seen this variation before!
You can pretty much bet on it, very few such ...

 :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 12, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
Oh thanks!
I sent an email to an old contact at Wenger about the 1.547.13.
Unfortunately he is now working for the Victorinox watch division, but he told me he forwarded my email.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 12, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
Square wrench are used most often for oil plum in cars, in the leading bridges of cars, transmissions, transfer cases (I don't know as it correctly is called in English)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 19, 2015, 02:51:53 PM
Can anyone say how old is he? Don't have Packlock system on cap-lifter?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 19, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
Can anyone say how old is he? Don't have Packlock system on cap-lifter?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 19, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 19, 2015, 06:49:49 PM
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.
Thanks man!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 19, 2015, 07:06:15 PM
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.
Thanks man!

Actually a slight correction. The padlock was introduced in the 1979 or 1980. Only appeared on a few models though, 6 of them. The 1982 was correct for the locking bottle opener so the time frame remains the same. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 19, 2015, 07:49:57 PM
Early '80s, late '70s maybe. Prior to 1982 I'd say going by memory.
Thanks man!

Actually a slight correction. The padlock was introduced in the 1979 or 1980. Only appeared on a few models though, 6 of them. The 1982 was correct for the locking bottle opener so the time frame remains the same. ;)

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on March 22, 2015, 06:54:39 PM
Old and New Wenger, both are fine.

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-17_zpstfdq40va.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-15_zpspjtgsbve.jpg)

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-16_zpsyu5oh1q0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 22, 2015, 06:59:14 PM
Really like those!!! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 23, 2015, 01:05:25 AM
Second find, is an unusual 85mm model, catalog 1.547.13.
I saw only once a picture of it some time ago.
Glad I finally found one.
As you can see, not only the tool configuration is interesting, but the removable wrench is completely different from the one found on the rollerblade or snowboard models.
Would be interesting to know what application this wrench was designed for.

(http://i.imgur.com/u71DoYm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/F8X2FvF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gLF4gm0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/bDqYCfX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BpvH7aB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Y8RuFKQ.jpg)

Interesting find. Never seen that before.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gregozedobe on March 23, 2015, 01:20:23 AM
Second find, is an unusual 85mm model, catalog 1.547.13.
I saw only once a picture of it some time ago.
Glad I finally found one.
As you can see, not only the tool configuration is interesting, but the removable wrench is completely different from the one found on the rollerblade or snowboard models.
Would be interesting to know what application this wrench was designed for.


Is it a 1/4" square ?  If so then it would work as a std 1/4" socket drive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 24, 2015, 05:05:59 PM
There is history on it in the wiki page I linked to an the SwissArmyKnights article at the bottom of the page.
Why no article about  Wenger Classic 66 on SAKWiki?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on March 24, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
There is history on it in the wiki page I linked to an the SwissArmyKnights article at the bottom of the page.
Why no article about  Wenger Classic 66 on SAKWiki?

But there is. :think:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Classic+66
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 24, 2015, 11:57:02 PM
Some years back I picked up this 'SKITOUR' Wenger. It came in a box for another knife, so no info on a number or anything else. Recently there was a request for more info in another thread. Anyone here know any more?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 25, 2015, 11:27:32 AM

Is it a 1/4" square ?  If so then it would work as a std 1/4" socket drive.

I'll have a look at the tool and try to convert in millimiters.
Seems like they don't have a clue at Delémont, because they sent me a catalog page of the rollerblade model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 25, 2015, 11:29:20 AM
Some years back I picked up this 'SKITOUR' Wenger. It came in a box for another knife, so no info on a number or anything else. Recently there was a request for more info in another thread. Anyone here know any more?

I would say it seems a custom/special order.
Usually,
logo on the handle + strange tools selection = custom order.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 27, 2015, 03:38:31 AM
A Wenger EvoWood 17 for Vogelwarte, a Swiss bird-watching group.

(repost from latest items)





Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 27, 2015, 07:00:15 PM
A Wenger EvoWood 17 for Vogelwarte, a Swiss bird-watching group.

(repost from latest items)

Nice logo!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: stressmaster5000 on March 27, 2015, 08:00:14 PM
A Wenger EvoWood 17 for Vogelwarte, a Swiss bird-watching group.



Nice one Karl!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 29, 2015, 06:49:11 PM
Love Wenger becouse it's  easy too do filework on it)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Dragon Lord on March 31, 2015, 12:52:16 AM
Love Wenger becouse it's  easy too do filework on it)
Nice filework
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Frater_Martin on March 31, 2015, 09:20:39 AM
...
Is it a 1/4" square ?  If so then it would work as a std 1/4" socket drive.

OK. Where applicable standard std 1/4 "socket drive?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 02, 2015, 03:53:46 PM
Looking at the forum, saw the other day this picture by Coloswiss
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21658.14430.html

(http://i.imgur.com/Zqdr5gE.jpg)

It inspired me this

(http://i.imgur.com/yVyn97F.jpg)

On the left is a Ranger 07, on the right a Ranger 107 (same knife but with a partially serrated blade).
The imprint on the right is the same one used for the new Ranger series.
The one from the left is not very common (second time I see it).
Just received it with the (as always) kind help by lowtech.
The only european catalog that shows the old Ranger 07/107 with the chamoix imprint (of the type on the right above) is the 2007 one, so I suspect it is not really common.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 02, 2015, 05:36:22 PM
Cool!!!!!  :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 02, 2015, 11:54:09 PM
Nice!  The early chamois may also have been available on the 08 Ranger (with phillips). Have a picture of the 07 with an inlay showing the phillips, but not the handle.

Have several New Rangers with the new version of the chamois: Hardwoods 57, New Ranger 57, New Ranger Clip 67.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 03, 2015, 12:06:58 AM
Back to Victorinox. Have a picture in the notebooks of several Hunters with other game animals on the handle (ibex, capercaillie). Think they were done for some big annual Swiss hunting show. No info or recollection on who posted the photo.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 10, 2015, 03:12:59 PM
I bought two old wenger. All kolletion of old knives
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bayoublade on April 18, 2015, 03:53:35 PM
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 20, 2015, 01:54:16 AM
I bought two old wenger. All kolletion of old knives

The three-faced logo in the third photo is pre-World War II, though I don't have a definitive date range. Some sources say its a stylized Matterhorn.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 20, 2015, 09:44:06 AM
Here the image big from the French forum www .fans-du-couteau-suisse.com
Here three persons
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kirk13 on April 20, 2015, 09:54:39 AM
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....

:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 21, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
Just received this nice little knife.
I usually don't buy this kind of knives, but ..... hey, how could I miss Wenger making a knife to commemorate its own town of Delémont?
This commemorative for the 700 years of the Ville de Delémont (1289-1989) should not be confused with the more comon commemoratives for the 700 years of the Swiss Confederation (1291-1991), which were made two years later, in 1991.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 22, 2015, 12:22:36 AM
Just received this nice little knife.
I usually don't buy this kind of knives, but ..... hey, how could I miss Wenger making a knife to commemorate its own town of Delémont?
This commemorative for the 700 years of the Ville de Delémont (1289-1989) should not be confused with the more comon commemoratives for the 700 years of the Swiss Confederation (1291-1991), which were made two years later, in 1991.

Neat find!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 22, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
Very cool!!!!!!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bayoublade on April 22, 2015, 10:58:20 PM
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....

:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on April 23, 2015, 12:57:14 AM
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....

:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?
I don't know the model name sorry. There are some similar knives in this thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41798.0.html) and over here (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives). I would start hunting through google images for more info.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: bayoublade on April 23, 2015, 01:30:53 AM
Can any of the Wegner aficionados help me identify this older gem... Some other gents have pegged it around the 40s but no thoughts yet on a model, etc....

:bump: -ing this one. Any ideas on its age or identity?
Thanks Kirk... Anyone out there have any thoughts?
I don't know the model name sorry. There are some similar knives in this thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41798.0.html) and over here (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives). I would start hunting through google images for more info.
Thanks Zoid. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on April 25, 2015, 10:09:21 PM
Just received this nice little knife.
I usually don't buy this kind of knives, but ..... hey, how could I miss Wenger making a knife to commemorate its own town of Delémont?
This commemorative for the 700 years of the Ville de Delémont (1289-1989) should not be confused with the more comon commemoratives for the 700 years of the Swiss Confederation (1291-1991), which were made two years later, in 1991.

Neat find!  :tu:
+1  :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 27, 2015, 11:23:33 PM
Here's a special limited edition Wenger for Longines Watches. Basically its a Pointer with the can opener replaced by a watch case opener.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 28, 2015, 12:30:09 AM
Very cool CS!!!!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on April 28, 2015, 09:42:44 AM
Here's a special limited edition Wenger for Longines Watches. Basically its a Pointer with the can opener replaced by a watch case opener.

Nice find!
I have one too, that I bought back in 2012
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32456.msg657624.html#msg657624
I remember that, despite being listed on ebay Italy (where usually Wenger knives don't get much attention), it was quite an expensive purchase.
Mine was a mint model with the original box, but I suspect there are a lot of watch collectors who buy everything related to watch brands.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 28, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Here's a special limited edition Wenger for Longines Watches. Basically its a Pointer with the can opener replaced by a watch case opener.

Nice find!
I have one too, that I bought back in 2012
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32456.msg657624.html#msg657624
I remember that, despite being listed on ebay Italy (where usually Wenger knives don't get much attention), it was quite an expensive purchase.
Mine was a mint model with the original box, but I suspect there are a lot of watch collectors who buy everything related to watch brands.

Mine is without a box, but still went for substantially less than I expected it to. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 01, 2015, 03:07:15 PM
Basilio suggested I repost these over here....I've included the conversation so far.

Mail call....

Wenger Mustang (no imprint)

and

Pre '75 Highlander?  Instead of a keyring, it has a hole in the liner and a S shaped wire loop attachment.  Can anyone nail the ID down for me?



(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Mustang%201_zpsw0lnfal9.jpg)


Could you repost the pictures in the "Wenger topic"?
I'm not so expert on very old models, so perhaps Coloswiss could answer you on the second knife.
The first one is actually interesting.
There are few things that make me thinking about a possible no-Mustang option.
The tweezers I can see on the front scale (Mustang had none)
The newer type corkscrew (4 turns), while the Mustang usually had the older 5-turns type.
Because of the corkscrew, could be a cyclist (european version) with the scales replaced.
How is the back scale?
Is there the "patent pending" inscription on the cap lifter (which should lock)? Mustang had the older type.



The back scale is plain red, cut for a tooth pic. The cap lifter is locking but with the single word "Patent". I only thought it was a Mustang because it was like my Cyclist but had a clip secondary instead of the file on the Cyclist.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on May 18, 2015, 08:37:21 PM
At the end of 2013, lot of Wenger collectors wanted to own one of this knife.

This knife of the forum "Fan du Couteau Suisse" was the last serial of knives made by Wenger in december 2013...

One of these 70 knives is actualy for sale on ebay, I want to clarify that neither me nor the vendor (my friend Robert Moix) wins money on this sale. This knife is offered for sale only to help somebody who needs money.

I think a collector could be interested.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/c0kAAOSwl8NVVbkF/$_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.fr/itm/SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE-WENGER-FORESTER-Bye-Bye-Wenger-/181746087885?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Reinier on May 18, 2015, 08:47:01 PM
That's a cool one Jean-Claude! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 18, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
That's a cool one Jean-Claude! :tu:

+1 I'll say!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on May 18, 2015, 09:37:05 PM
That's a cool one Jean-Claude! :tu:

+1 I'll say!!!!
+2 I have to say :D ... great call btw ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on May 18, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
I bought two old wenger. All kolletion of old knives

The three-faced logo in the third photo is pre-World War II, though I don't have a definitive date range. Some sources say its a stylized Matterhorn.

This 3 faces logo was one of differents stamps of "Coutellerie Suisse", it  seems to have appeared in 1895 (Wenger information). When Wenger bought "Coutellerie Suisse" in 1908, the new brand continued to use this stamp until the 1950s, but only occasionally.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on May 19, 2015, 01:04:12 PM
jcfiguet
Thanks for information on 3 faces logo.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 19, 2015, 07:50:34 AM
I bought old wenger of the PROF series. Very interesting inscription on the main blade.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 24, 2015, 10:22:04 PM
I bought old wenger of the PROF series. Very interesting inscription on the main blade.

Yes, that's standard on this model. http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+1.74.10

And the thread about creating the wiki pages.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,49211.msg820024.html#msg820024
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: philodemus on June 24, 2015, 11:29:06 PM
A Wenger quartet.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bItVDo283T_f5hzpcr1sOaHQMpE_vmOQT3GgqJ5YkNI=w1024-h683-no)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 25, 2015, 08:00:07 AM
Hi, guys.
I made a new box of wenger with different scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 25, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
Hi, guys.
I made a new box of wenger with different scales.

Very nice display!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 26, 2015, 02:31:21 AM
Nice variety of scales, and a nice way to display them!    :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 26, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
Thanks guys.
Many knives aren't enough yet.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 26, 2015, 10:03:32 AM
Thanks guys.
Many knives aren't enough yet.

Hehe, they are never enough....
I think that a soft touch and a evo translucent model would fit well in your display.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on June 26, 2015, 01:19:23 PM
Thanks guys.
Many knives aren't enough yet.

Hehe, they are never enough....
I think that a soft touch and a evo translucent model would fit well in your display.

And another Realtree, and a few more metal ones, and Classic scaled translucent models in red, orange and blue, ...

@Gim, to make it easier, better send that box to me and you start from the beginning. It will be easier to organize. :angel:

Always nice to see your boxes. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 26, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
I need to make still boxes.
I have different swissmemory series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 26, 2015, 03:46:42 PM
and to buy two more wenger models of the Patrouille des Glaciers series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: philodemus on July 11, 2015, 06:14:19 AM
I rescued this old Wenger from an antique shop today. Could any of the experts tell me what model it is and how old it might be? Thanks!  :salute:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sizovUbWQHHqKJRjQ5TSgFLzofzzkmoeXq_cSTWYjDE=w1024-h683-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1_k6eM6H52gxxhgi_7xwESsB7ebFhXkv2DO4oTuAJjw=w1024-h683-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ICEwHP_nm9LsyOfpJyATYw5oLQu_QHwr1RU2tch70G0=w1024-h683-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/AQ9DGGa2pw8CPmi83u4C_slRDdHha3vKApzLKOzE3AA=w1024-h683-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dJP2OK5_a4qVk9uPGHQMdXigzuuwKREpQzDyqoVcrI=w1024-h683-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ozq2YE2Z4xiXYTFTGf1az2KrNtcn1KzraTWHowhxjFQ=w1024-h683-no)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 11, 2015, 08:40:17 AM
Hello,

It's a Vicking ancestor (I have no name neither references) between 1950 and 1958.

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aferrel on August 06, 2015, 11:30:11 AM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/06/4a65cea175dc293c0a5d9e50d90547d3.jpg)
My small ranger collection


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on August 10, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
My last knife of the SWISSMEMORY (1.94.00.903) series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on August 10, 2015, 10:43:08 AM
My last knife of the SWISSMEMORY (1.94.00.903) series
Without checking I can see:

Château de Chillon
Fountain of Geneva
Matterhorn
Lucerne

Very nice :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 10, 2015, 09:36:59 AM
Hey, long time no post on this topic.
So, here is my last purchase from Japan.
Model 1.39.03.02 (known as "Motorist") with black scales and old car image (first attachment). Never saw this model before!
Some time ago I had found (from Japan) the same knife in black, but without the car image (old picture already posted in the forum/wiki, second attachment).
And last is the same knife with the "quattro" logo (and leather pouch). I believe this was probably a promo knife for the Audi quattro (third attachment). I'm no expert on cars, but the logo seems the same.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on September 10, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
Congrats, that is totally awesome Basilio!!!!!  :cheers: The Motorist is one of my fav Wenger patterns!!!! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on September 10, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
Congrats, that is totally awesome Basilio!!!!!  :cheers: The Motorist is one of my fav Wenger patterns!!!!
+1  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on September 10, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
Hey, long time no post on this topic.
So, here is my last purchase from Japan.
Model 1.39.03.02 (known as "Motorist") with black scales and old car image (first attachment). Never saw this model before!
Some time ago I had found (from Japan) the same knife in black, but without the car image (old picture already posted in the forum/wiki, second attachment).
And last is the same knife with the "quattro" logo (and leather pouch). I believe this was probably a promo knife for the Audi quattro (third attachment). I'm no expert on cars, but the logo seems the same.

Wonderfull Basilio !

Just a question : where do you find Wenger "made for Japan market" ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on September 10, 2015, 10:37:57 PM


Just a question : where do you find Wenger "made for Japan market" ?

Amazon.jp (when it works and doesn't block the purchase) for one knife (but it was not a Japan exclusive, just a missing one from the Nature series).
All the others (bought between 2013 and now) came from this shop (unfortunately they don't have any from this series left now)
http://www.setocut.co.jp/
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on September 11, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
Thanks a lot Basilio !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 25, 2015, 06:53:30 PM
Hello all !

Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!

In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).

It's a real scoop !!!

According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...

To begin, only 4 knives and 4 colors :

(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/17758.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20052)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18154.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20064)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18135.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20056)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18144.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20060)

(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18146.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20061)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18156.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20065)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18137.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20057)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18152.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20063)

(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18056.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20053)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18130.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20054)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18139.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20058)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18158.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20066)

(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18148.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20062)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18133.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20055)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18142.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20059)(http://www.swiza.com/Htdocs/Images/IF_ProductsListing/18160.jpg?&puid=1&eiplace=Product20067)

Since Wensday 10/21/2015 Victorinox is no longer alone on the Swiss Army Knives market...

For more informations, see :

- http://www.swiza.com/en/Home.html
- http://www.vosgesmatin.fr/economie/2015/10/23/swiza-le-deuxieme-couteau (french)
- http://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ju-la-marque-swiza-presente-un-nouveau-couteau-suisse?id=7189647 (french)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dks on October 25, 2015, 07:29:19 PM
there are already at least 3 threads, one with testing, on the swiza, 1 in this subforum.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 25, 2015, 07:36:57 PM
Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 25, 2015, 07:41:39 PM
Hello all !

Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!

In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).

It's a real scoop !!!

According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Swiza in the OBC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62284.msg1170782.html#msg1170782)

Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....
Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 25, 2015, 08:03:15 PM


Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....
Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).

This make perfect sense.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on October 25, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
I have to say. I wish Vic made a single blade with inline awl model like those above.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 25, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
Hello all !

Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!

In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).

It's a real scoop !!!

According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Swiza in the OBC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62284.msg1170782.html#msg1170782)

Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....
Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).

How many are many ? LOL I don't know exactly but Peter has surrounded himself with some of his former staff, as Mrs Rebecca Käslin (communication manager of Wenger) now vice president communication and I suppose lot of former wenger people who never accept the end of the "Wenger spirit of innovation".
I don't believe it's a problem of French speaking or German speaking. Swiss people can work together without problem and it was the case for Wenger and Victorinox between 2005 and 2013. The problem is when Father Elsener bought Wenger in 2005, he promised to preserve the brand and the production of Wenger, but his son didn't respect this promise in 2013.
Swiss people can forgive lot of things but never a promise not respected.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 25, 2015, 08:44:24 PM
Hello all !

Wenger is dead ? Not at all !!!

In Delemont, Peter Hug (The last boss of Wenger) create a new knives manufacture with SWIZA (a prestigious clock manufacture since 1904).

It's a real scoop !!!

According to information of Swiss newspapers, many employees of Victorinox-Wenger Factory of Delemont leave their work to work in the new Swiza factory with Peter Hug... Victorinox does not comment...
Swiza S(a)Ks (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62681.0.html)
Swiza in the OBC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62284.msg1170782.html#msg1170782)

Sad (I think) to hear Vic/Wenger employees bailed.....
Well, I think Vic workplaces are more secure. And how many are many? That said, it's unsurprising. Being taken over by a company from the German speaking part does not sit well with many in the French speaking part (might as well be a Chinese company).

How many are many ? LOL I don't know exactly but Peter has surrounded himself with some of his former staff, as Mrs Rebecca Käslin (communication manager of Wenger) now vice president communication and I suppose lot of former wenger people who never accept the end of the "Wenger spirit of innovation".
I don't believe it's a problem of French speaking or German speaking. Swiss people can work together without problem and it was the case for Wenger and Victorinox between 2005 and 2013. The problem is when Father Elsener bought Wenger in 2005, he promised to preserve the brand and the production of Wenger, but his son didn't respect this promise in 2013.
Swiss people can forgive lot of things but never a promise not respected.
Um... no! The Wenger brand is still strong (the only thing they don't make anymore is SAKs, the part that brought the company down).
People in the management of Wenger probably had it hard under Victorinox rule (less chance advancements) but then who is to blame, so I'm not surprised to see them go. My impressions of the Swiza knife so far is, that non of the good engineers/tool-designers have switched ::) :D

Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 25, 2015, 09:44:06 PM
...
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).

Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.

I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !

Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 25, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
...
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).

Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.

I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !

Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Kinda my point...
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cdv1962 on October 26, 2015, 12:33:41 AM
I have much love for Wengers.  Attached are some Wengers I have owned over the years.  I verify all the comment about the Wenger Scissors above  ---  Wenger scissor are 100x better than the Victorinox.  They cut sharper and last longer.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 26, 2015, 12:58:43 AM
...
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).

Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.

I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !

Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Kinda my point...
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:

I understand what you mean but... Human is human, not robot...

Wenger goes bankrup, that's OK in 2005.
Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal, that's OK between 2005 and 2013.
Between 2005 and 2013, it was a good wedding : Wenger grows up and makes money with the Wenger Brand, Wenger knives, Wenger expertise, Wenger innovation, etc. Victorinox also won money with Wenger and Victorinox grows up too. In fact it was a good deal for everybody a "win-win" deal.

But... At the end of 2013 Vic changed the rules and killed the brand Wenger, killed the boss and other people of management team, killed the production of knives... It was an error. It was an error in human strategy...
The only rule to apply in that case is : "No change in a rugby team when the team wins".
My idea is Vic said at the end of 2013 : "I am the boss and I do all I want because I have the juridical right to do it" Yes of course !!! But... It doesn't work in all cases even with the juridical right ! And the "röstigraben" is there !
Nobody can make a "revolution" in a 120 years old factory without having human problems...
Americans investors or chinese investors buy luxury hotels in Paris or Bordeaux vineyard but without making "revolution" and it works !

I'm sorry but what is the result now ? Victorinox spent money to absorb a competitor and an other new competitor born ! It's not a win strategy...

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 26, 2015, 07:33:57 AM
...
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).

Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.

I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !

Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Kinda my point...
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:

I understand what you mean but... Human is human, not robot...

Wenger goes bankrup, that's OK in 2005.
Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal, that's OK between 2005 and 2013.
Between 2005 and 2013, it was a good wedding : Wenger grows up and makes money with the Wenger Brand, Wenger knives, Wenger expertise, Wenger innovation, etc. Victorinox also won money with Wenger and Victorinox grows up too. In fact it was a good deal for everybody a "win-win" deal.

But... At the end of 2013 Vic changed the rules and killed the brand Wenger, killed the boss and other people of management team, killed the production of knives... It was an error. It was an error in human strategy...
The only rule to apply in that case is : "No change in a rugby team when the team wins".
My idea is Vic said at the end of 2013 : "I am the boss and I do all I want because I have the juridical right to do it" Yes of course !!! But... It doesn't work in all cases even with the juridical right ! And the "röstigraben" is there !
Nobody can make a "revolution" in a 120 years old factory without having human problems...
Americans investors or chinese investors buy luxury hotels in Paris or Bordeaux vineyard but without making "revolution" and it works !

I'm sorry but what is the result now ? Victorinox spent money to absorb a competitor and an other new competitor born ! It's not a win strategy...
PMed you a more detailed answer, this is after all the "Love Wenger" thread so only this:

Wenger was not a winning team... bankruptcy is not a victory.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 26, 2015, 03:27:21 PM
...
Being Swiss ;) and having friends in Delemont, I think it is at least parts Röstigraben (imaginary line between French and German speaking Switzerland).

Ach ! The röstigraben !!! Yes of course ! So swiss LOL !
But I'm not sure it's the only reason.
Wenger is still strong but for watches, backpacks... Not for Wenger knives production.

I visited the Wenger factory in December 2013... All employees were very sad. the Wenger brand was like a flag for them, they had shared so many woes and joys together... It was like a defeated army, a tragedy. And it was also a tragedy for collectors of Wenger knives !

Wenger Factory in December 2013 and August 2014...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/vicdel11.jpg)
Kinda my point...
Wenger goes bankrup, Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal... still everybody is complaining :shrug:

I understand what you mean but... Human is human, not robot...

Wenger goes bankrup, that's OK in 2005.
Vic takes over and gives Wenger and its employees an extremely sweet deal, that's OK between 2005 and 2013.
Between 2005 and 2013, it was a good wedding : Wenger grows up and makes money with the Wenger Brand, Wenger knives, Wenger expertise, Wenger innovation, etc. Victorinox also won money with Wenger and Victorinox grows up too. In fact it was a good deal for everybody a "win-win" deal.

But... At the end of 2013 Vic changed the rules and killed the brand Wenger, killed the boss and other people of management team, killed the production of knives... It was an error. It was an error in human strategy...
The only rule to apply in that case is : "No change in a rugby team when the team wins".
My idea is Vic said at the end of 2013 : "I am the boss and I do all I want because I have the juridical right to do it" Yes of course !!! But... It doesn't work in all cases even with the juridical right ! And the "röstigraben" is there !
Nobody can make a "revolution" in a 120 years old factory without having human problems...
Americans investors or chinese investors buy luxury hotels in Paris or Bordeaux vineyard but without making "revolution" and it works !

I'm sorry but what is the result now ? Victorinox spent money to absorb a competitor and an other new competitor born ! It's not a win strategy...
PMed you a more detailed answer, this is after all the "Love Wenger" thread so only this:

Wenger was not a winning team... bankruptcy is not a victory.

Wenger's bankruptcy was the result of two main reasons:
1) The Business Tool with its expensive engineering and its small sales, although it is a good product.
2) September 11, 2001 and the fall sales of knives in airports (-20% of sales !)
Wenger represented only 10% of Victorinox, Victorinox has resisted, not Wenger ...
But no disgrace !

You said "röstigraben"... So Wenger is the "bad boy" ? I don't think it's the truth.
The History is always written by the victors... The real victory is always the generosity of the winner...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on October 26, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
Anyone have any knowledge of this knife? Tang stamp "Wenger & CIE Delemont with nothing on the reverse, if I had to say, either carbon steel or very crude/early stainless experimental. Metallic scales.

 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 26, 2015, 10:20:12 PM
Anyone have any knowledge of this knife? Tang stamp "Wenger & CIE Delemont with nothing on the reverse, if I had to say, either carbon steel or very crude/early stainless experimental. Metallic scales.

Yes !

I suppose blades are carbon steel ? This knife is probably  a "Model 504 A" (A = aluminium) or a similar model, it's a rare knife... :

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t11.jpg)

I restored this one last year (I suppose its date of manufacture is between 1916 and 1919):

Before restoration...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t10.jpg)

After restoration (broken small blade changed)...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t23.jpg)

I think it was a ancestor of the "Cascade" :
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1447)


More photos of this restoration :

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t12.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t13.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t15.jpg)

How to make new rivets...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t16.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t17.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t18.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t19.jpg)



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on October 26, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Very cool! So I have the first Alox? My tang stamp is different than the one you restored?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 26, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
Very cool! So I have the first Alox? My tang stamp is different than the one you restored?

Hello,

I think your knife is earliest than mine, probably before 1910's, because of the tang stamp and the screwdriver.

You are very, very lucky !!!

I only see this kind of knife 3 times :

1°) on the Wenger catalog 1908-1922 (only 1 copy at the Wenger Factory)
2°) my knife
3°) your knife

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 26, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
 :o  So that's one ultra rare SAK, then? Congrats to both, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 26, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
Here's another one. Main blade's been sharpened a bit, but still a neat knife. Thanks for the info on model number and approximate dates.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 26, 2015, 11:04:25 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on October 26, 2015, 11:10:01 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?

Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 26, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?

Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.

I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 26, 2015, 11:52:33 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?

Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.

I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:

Vic made first Aluminium scales (not alox) like Wenger in 1910's, but I don't know who was the first (Vic or Wenger) ! LOL
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 26, 2015, 11:55:56 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?

Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.

I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:
Proto-Farmer would be the farmer line of knives with wooden scales Victorinox used to make. We have that catalog in the wiki. And Vic used aluminium scales earlier than those models shown here. Jazzbass has an Officer's knife that's older.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 26, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
Jazzbass's SAK from 1903
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51070.0
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 26, 2015, 11:59:26 PM
So, this is essentially the proto-Farmer?

Except that Farmer is a Victorinox, and this is a Wenger.

I know that but I'm not sure when did Vic first make Alox hence my question :salute:

Vic made first Aluminium scales (not alox) like Wenger in 1910's, but I don't know who was the first (Vic or Wenger) ! LOL

Merci bien, Monsieur :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 27, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
Jazzbass's SAK from 1903
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51070.0

Riiiight, the 100mm Officer's SAK!  :doh:

Thanks, enki.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on October 27, 2015, 12:02:07 AM
And farm/work knives gallery that look much like the ALOX models of later years.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=116
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on October 27, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
And farm/work knives gallery that look much like the ALOX models of later years.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=116

I'm still drooling about using one of those ::)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 29, 2015, 09:48:55 PM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caranthanus on October 29, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...

It's hard to find it on net as well  :shrug:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 29, 2015, 11:48:59 PM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...

It's hard to find it on net as well  :shrug:


On the net it's not possible but if somebody has the guenuine box with the good reference, it will be fabulous !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on October 30, 2015, 08:58:33 AM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...

It's hard to find it on net as well  :shrug:


On the net it's not possible but if somebody has the guenuine box with the good reference, it will be fabulous !
There is nothing I loath more than a brand like that. Has nothing to do with Switzerland or Mountaineering, they also place a genuine Wenger among junk, label it "made in Switzerland" so people believe everything is made in Switzerland...

Nevertheless, the knife in question is still available:
http://www.swissma.de/en/web/index.php?id=1678&s=alpine_club_-_ranger_knife
Maybe they can give you the answers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 25, 2015, 11:51:51 PM
Hello all !

I don't want advertising to make money, but I know that some of you might be interested in this new limited series of SWIZA...

Some of you remember the "Bye Bye Wenger" (the last Wenger limited series in 2013 for FCS) 

(http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/17/57/54/47/20131210.jpg)



Currently being manufactured in Swiza factory, the "Hello SWIZA Knives" (the first Swiza limited series in 2015 for "Les Couteaux du Soldat de l'Armée Suisse")

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet10.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet11.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 26, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...

The only reference I have is the name written on the same image you posted.
AC/KNI.1.
I have also saved a picture of the AC/KNI.3, which is different as well (see attachment).
I saw it listed somewhere some time ago, did try to buy it but never got any answer.




Currently being manufactured in Swiza factory, the "Hello SWIZA Knives" (the first Swiza limited series in 2015 for "Les Couteaux du Soldat de l'Armée Suisse")

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet10.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/maquet11.jpg)

It is very nice.
I found a Swiza in a cutlery shop in Munich some weeks ago and I bought it.
I'm really impressed buy the knife. I like it
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 26, 2015, 10:24:22 AM
Hello all !

Some body knows the reference or the mame of the 2nd Ranger (at right) ?

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/99.jpg)

It seems these knives are not in the Wiki, or I didn't find them...

The only reference I have is the name written on the same image you posted.
AC/KNI.1.
I have also saved a picture of the AC/KNI.3, which is different as well (see attachment).
I saw it listed somewhere some time ago, did try to buy it but never got any answer.

This one is a Ranger 198 with alpine club reference AC/SMK1 (Black) and AC/SMK2 (Yellow)

An similar knife (non one-hand blade) exists : Ranger 162 with alpine club reference AC/KNI.1  (Black) this reference was given by Coloswiss

Here my personal Wiki for Ranger knives 130 mm:

excel file to download (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.xlsm) last update 11/17/2015
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 26, 2015, 03:30:34 PM


This one is a Ranger 198 with alpine club reference AC/SMK1 (Black) and AC/SMK2 (Yellow)

An similar knife (non one-hand blade) exists : Ranger 162 with alpine club reference AC/KNI.1  (Black) this reference was given by Coloswiss

Here my personal Wiki for Ranger knives 130 mm:

excel file to download (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.xlsm) last update 11/17/2015

No Jean Claude,
it is not.
if you look closely you'll see that the knife I posted is missing the saw, the openers and reamer on back.

(http://i.imgur.com/DekxH27.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on November 26, 2015, 05:36:26 PM


This one is a Ranger 198 with alpine club reference AC/SMK1 (Black) and AC/SMK2 (Yellow)

An similar knife (non one-hand blade) exists : Ranger 162 with alpine club reference AC/KNI.1  (Black) this reference was given by Coloswiss

Here my personal Wiki for Ranger knives 130 mm:

excel file to download (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Wiki/Wiki_Wenger_130_mm.xlsm) last update 11/17/2015

No Jean Claude,
it is not.
if you look closely you'll see that the knife I posted is missing the saw, the openers and reamer on back.

(http://i.imgur.com/DekxH27.jpg)

OK ! I didn't see the missing saw... Do you have the Webger reference of this knife ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 30, 2015, 01:21:42 PM
My son and I just got Highlanders, and I'm impressed with them.  I like the size, and they seem like first class knives to me.  I've always carried Vic's, and when he got his, I liked it enough I ordered one myself.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on January 02, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
Two similar knives, the one on the left is stamped Wenger Delemont and is carbon steel, the one on the right is stamped Wenger Tahara and is stainless.

Approximate age for the two? Are these made for civilians?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 02, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
I don't know the answer, but I'd love to hear the stories those two knives would tell.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 02, 2016, 04:38:02 PM
The carbon steel blade is probably before 1919 and the stainless steel between 1919 and 1942.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 15, 2016, 05:09:48 AM
I have negelected this thread so here's some recent Wengers...

Rangers

RangerGrip 90 and a Pathfinder
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Mail%20call%201-14-16_zps9jvwirlq.jpg)

A used Wenger 51, a Blackout 52 and a NIB Mike Horn Ranger.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Ranger%20Monday_zpsjj1hekif.jpg)

Realtree Hunters 50 and 57
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Hunters_zpsmzo3mhyo.jpg)

RangerWood 55
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/RangerWood%2055_zpsry8m9rst.jpg)


Other

Wenger Teton Hardwoods
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Hardwoods%20Teton%202_zpsvvx4pohk.jpg)[/QUOTE]

Bass
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Bass_zpsaegdwnpg.jpg)

Catch & Release
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20%20Catch%20amp%20Release1_zpsbqqsjfle.jpg)

Wenger SI '83 (WaffenKontrol)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20SI%2083%20WaffenKontrol_zpsy34fejqw.jpg)

EVO Wood 18
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/EVO%20Wood%2018_zps49fsohdi.jpg)

S18 BREITLING
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20BREITLING_zpsjioucmge.jpg)

Motorist (White)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/White%20Motorist_zpsa72din6j.jpg)

Unknown model
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20mystery2_zpseag4pyq3.jpg)

Wenger Soldat '64
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Soldat%2064_zps8gc63hea.jpg)

Windjammers (top two)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Mail%20call%2011-2_zpskaxftesg.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on January 15, 2016, 05:50:58 AM
Very nice collection doc  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 15, 2016, 05:58:10 AM
Looking good!   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 15, 2016, 06:38:19 AM
Thanks guys!!  Really enjoying the Wengers and can't believe that when I joined here I thought they were just "also rans" to Vics and only owned one (that was given to me). Playing with that first one revealed the quality of the line and then seeing the diversity of the models I was hooked.  :D  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Zephon on January 15, 2016, 06:44:00 AM
That's an interesting "Unknown Model" you got there!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 15, 2016, 06:57:20 AM
That's an interesting "Unknown Model" you got there!

Thanks!!! Here's the ID thread....

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62863.msg1175053.html#msg1175053
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 15, 2016, 02:30:19 PM
They really grow on you don't they?  I didn't even give them a second thought til I handled one.  I've got one so far and plan on expanding on that every chance I get.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: G-Dizzle on January 15, 2016, 03:22:58 PM
I really like my Wenger Evo S18.The locking blade is nice and the evo scales make it look and feel great.It is my main pocket carry SAK.

I have the same knife. I also have a swisschamp that i carry daily. The locking blade is a bit of an advantage, but not necesarry because i always have one on me seperately. I almost bought the s54, but i could not get over how much wasted space that there is in it vs the swisschamp (imho)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: aerojet on January 15, 2016, 04:07:13 PM
I actually took the time to read thru all of the 82 pages of this thread. I agree with most, and here is my story.

Like many if not most, including me, Vic was the "Swiss Army Knife". PERIOD. From early on there was not a lot of Wenger around, at any price in this area to compare Vic and Wen. Once I got on the internet and learned about Wenger, it looked like a Vic imitator. It happens in every industry and this one is the same. It was when Vic took over Wenger that I realized what was going on, and Wenger was another SAK. A real SAK.

It was also at that time I was looking to replace another worn out Vic, and by now Vic had taken over the Delemont works and pretty much gutted the Wenger line except for the Evolution Grip SAKS.

In the end, I found the Wenger S54, you see at the top left in my Avatar. But knowing that if anything happened to it, this would be lost. So I did the next best thing and bought the Vic S54. This has become my EDC and the Wenger is my pride and joy of my collection.

I have since bought a few more Wenger SAKS which I found on the internet, and those are staying home. it is the last of the Wenger Delemont made SAKS and when they are gone, the innovations which Wenger originally put into the things will be lost.

I think that Vic will keep the Evo Grip line. This is a real move forward in multi tools in that it gives one a good firm grip on the thing and perfect control. Other things like the spingless scissors and pliers are way ahead of the time. I know it is relatively easy to change out springs, I have done it for ages, but not to have to worry about changing the spring? 

Other Wenger innovations are things like a metal file which is about as good as I have seen. It is a good mill second cut and really moves metal. Don't use this for a fingernail file, it is way too aggressive. The wood saw with the Evo Grip is excellent for trimming out round holes to suit the assembly. Another Wenger exclusive is the universal wrench. Good mainly for 2 - 56, 4 - 40, and 6 - 32 screws which we use all the time and handy when needed.

I was not happy with Vic's changing out the magnifier to that larger one with the thin holder. Wenger has theirs on the end of a  metal tool, and gives you enough room to stuff your face and a flashlight into a dark place to read off code numbers on locks and keep the SAK out of the way.

The Phillips and standard screwdrivers locks in when you push down. Nice when you need to get purchase to force something out and the stupid thing does not fold back in.

The locking blade is another safety item which not only is nice, but gives one the peace of mind that the thing is not going to close on you if something goes wrong.

Any love of Wenger? One could say that - it is a tool which fills the need with innovation and an understanding of what the product needs to do.

In some ways I wish I had found this product earlier, but live and learn and now move on.

The Aerojet
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 16, 2016, 01:47:16 AM
Excellent post aerojet.
I agree with your sentiments whole heartedly.

Like you, I came here to MT'o. Knowing little of a Wenger. Victorinox certainly has the monopoly here in the UK. But, like most things in life, it's when you move away from the obvious that your eyes are opened.

I really don't think any of us realised what Wenger was, it seems far too many of us were blinded by Victorinox. Yes, both are swiss and both used the classic red scales and both used the cross as an emblem. But they were evidently as different as chalk and cheese.

The naivety that ignorance allows us, often hides so much. I can't help but keep thinking of OB-1 in starwars ".....you can strike me down but I shall become more powerful than you could ever imagined".
It seems that Wenger is fast becoming recognised for the achievements it made that were often overshadowed due to Victorinox's much much bigger marketing budget.

But the fact that Victorinox has cloned and rebranded what will undoubtedly always be regarded as Wenger ideas is perhaps the biggest accolade Wenger could ever have hoped for. It's pretty clear that Victorinox has very little, if any innovative ideas. Instead it seems they prefer to 'swallow up' the true radicals and take the praise for their achievements.

Any love for wenger.... To a learned mind, certainly.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 16, 2016, 01:54:46 AM
Aerojet, I love that you said !

Wenger was the best, I agree...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 16, 2016, 03:20:41 AM
+1 gang....I love my Vics, but I sure wish I had discovered Wenger sooner.  The innovations they developed are awesome, and the knife is a wonderful piece of craftsmanship (my oldest son, right behind me, agrees wholeheartedly but he made the jump first, and got me into Wenger).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 16, 2016, 04:11:00 AM
I think lot of people missed the Wenger brand for several reasons...

What a pity!

I just hope (for them) that they will not make the same error with the new brand SWIZA!

In Latin we say: « Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum ». It can be translated by : « To err is human, to persevere is devilish ».
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 16, 2016, 04:18:25 AM
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on January 16, 2016, 04:26:05 AM
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sak60 on January 16, 2016, 04:30:44 AM
These are mine :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 16, 2016, 05:12:52 AM
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur

Facio consentio   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on January 16, 2016, 05:14:15 AM
These are mine :cheers:

Very nice!!!  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on January 16, 2016, 05:32:12 AM
Used this one today to true the rear wheel on my bike:

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/15/d9296e245a0285956d41bc5fb0e60758.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 16, 2016, 09:30:47 PM
Nice one Andy!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on February 01, 2016, 12:21:55 AM
My love for Wengers is mostly focussed on the RangerGrip Series, this is why they are the only Wengers in my posession. I am especially fond of the RangerGrip 86 and RangerGrip 95. The 86 because it has the toolset which I fancy the most and the 95 because it has the same toolset plus the pliers. Which are not as handy as the ones on the Swisstool but heck, I love the design.

(http://abload.de/img/1601021arslw.jpg)

(http://abload.de/img/1601022mpsoo.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 01, 2016, 12:30:21 AM
Hello Daark,

Did you see this one ?

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/gr11010.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/gr31010.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/gr51010.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on February 01, 2016, 12:40:28 AM
To be honest I didn't see this one yet. It is an interesting model but misses two essential tools in my opinion: the can opener and the corkscrew :)

What is the model number?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 01, 2016, 12:47:27 AM
To be honest I didn't see this one yet. It is an interesting model but misses two essential tools in my opinion: the can opener and the corkscrew :)

What is the model number?

It's just a joke !

I made this knife myself !

But this one does exist, "Ranger 198 CAS" :

(http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/ranger198cas/3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on February 01, 2016, 12:55:39 AM
 :climber:

Maybe somewhen I will get over it and try building one myself. Although I can't think of anything the ones I have do not yet incorporate already.

I just wish Vic would make the East ranger and/or Rescue II again just with their modifications and green scales.
Initially I bought two pairs of green scales so I can swap them but then decided to keep them as they were.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 01, 2016, 01:08:12 AM
:climber:

Maybe somewhen I will get over it and try building one myself. Although I can't think of anything the ones I have do not yet incorporate already.

I just wish Vic would make the East ranger and/or Rescue II again just with their modifications and green scales.
Initially I bought two pairs of green scales so I can swap them but then decided to keep them as they were.

I think you should keep the green scales... Ranger scales made by Wenger become rare...
I think also that Vic will not make East ranger and/or Rescue II again... Market not enough important, specific tools (long metal saw), etc...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 01, 2016, 02:04:19 AM
Got few in the other day!!! :2tu:

Ranger 55 Blaze
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blaze%2055%20amp%20Tapio_zpscnivikio.jpg)

And a few 85's....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wengers%201-27-16_zpsuxdcwlt0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 01, 2016, 04:34:29 AM
My only Wenger, so far..... :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 01, 2016, 04:47:29 AM
My only Wenger, so far..... :D

A solid start with the very same model I started with!  :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 01, 2016, 05:10:02 AM
I can save you having to find room for your new arrivals SG....send them to me and I'll even pay the postage!!  Nice collection sir! :tu: :tu: :tu:

Got few in the other day!!! :2tu:

Ranger 55 Blaze
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blaze%2055%20amp%20Tapio_zpscnivikio.jpg)

And a few 85's....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wengers%201-27-16_zpsuxdcwlt0.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 01, 2016, 05:38:14 AM
I can save you having to find room for your new arrivals SG....send them to me and I'll even pay the postage!!  Nice collection sir! :tu: :tu: :tu:

Got few in the other day!!! :2tu:

Ranger 55 Blaze
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blaze%2055%20amp%20Tapio_zpscnivikio.jpg)

And a few 85's....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wengers%201-27-16_zpsuxdcwlt0.jpg)

You're a good friend Barry!!!  :rofl:   

Thank you!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 01, 2016, 05:45:45 PM
 :cheers: :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 01, 2016, 10:17:37 PM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 01, 2016, 10:44:49 PM
Really need to see the toolsets.

Top - Bass (locking blade) or Trout

Middle one- Possible Fisherman...a later release of the Fly Fisherman, same tools.

Bottom - Same as middle...the clue is both have the corkscrew. Most Wenger Fishing knives have the Phillips.

Hopefully, Wenger experts will be along to help narrow our ID's.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 01, 2016, 11:31:26 PM
Thanks Sir! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 02, 2016, 01:48:46 AM
I have a handful of Wenger SAKs.
Here's a Trout:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Trout/IMG_1347.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on February 02, 2016, 09:34:56 AM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2016, 09:42:23 AM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:

Neither do I.   :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
An assortment of Wenger fishing knives. The bottom two are Fly Fishermen/Fishermen. In addition to the lure and stylized trout, there are versions with the regular trout and with plain handles. - 1.19.25

There is also a variant of the Fly Fisherman with a nail file instead of the flat phillips. - 1.19.03 (no name); and another variant with a small clip blade instead of the flat phillips - 1.19.13. This version was also sold as the Sailfish with that logo.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 02, 2016, 07:14:31 PM
Here is my largest Wenger. I  bought it used about 10 years ago for $15

Matterhorn:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1349.jpg)

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1350.jpg)

The scales and inline phillips screwdriver are a bit worn but all of the other tools are like new.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 02, 2016, 09:39:07 PM
The knives are in Holland at the moment, so I don't know if there is a variant directed just to that market.  The seller is asking $100 USD for the three of them.  I appreciate everyone's help with this, as I'm learning the SAK game as I go along, especially Wengers.  My son has a real attraction for the Flyfisherman, as that is his hobby, and loves Wengers too.  Prior to my joining the forum, I had a lone Vic Huntsman that I got new in '83, a Classic from '85, and a late '90's PST.  Now my collection is growing to the point that I might be sleeping with it in my 71 VW Camper lol!!  You guys are awesome and I really appreciate the education and the help.  :tu: :tu:

On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 02, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
Nice one Dave!  If for nothing else, I prefer the Wenger can opener and scissors.  What awesome tools.

Here is my largest Wenger. I  bought it used about 10 years ago for $15

Matterhorn:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1349.jpg)

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Matterhorn/IMG_1350.jpg)

The scales and inline phillips screwdriver are a bit worn but all of the other tools are like new.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 02, 2016, 10:07:03 PM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:

I believe it's the later Fisherman logo also appearing on the EVO Fisherman (19). ColoSwiss has one on Classic Style scales in his pic!  :2tu:

Fisherman 19 (seller's pic)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QQVR-V8DL._SS160_.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 03, 2016, 12:28:56 AM
Nice one Dave!  If for nothing else, I prefer the Wenger can opener and scissors.  What awesome tools.

I like the pocket-ability of this bad boy. It is just a tad shorter than a similar Victorinox, enabling it to slip into my watch pocket nicely. As far as tools go, I really like the scissors, the wrench and the extra belly on the main blade  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 03, 2016, 12:49:07 AM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:

I believe it's the later Fisherman logo also appearing on the EVO Fisherman (19). ColoSwiss has one on Classic Style scales in his pic!  :2tu:

Fisherman 19 (seller's pic)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QQVR-V8DL._SS160_.jpg)


The stylized trout is not the logo appearing on the top knife in the photo. Hard to tell, but it looks like it might be a fish on a line.   :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 03, 2016, 01:03:48 AM
The knives are in Holland at the moment, so I don't know if there is a variant directed just to that market.  The seller is asking $100 USD for the three of them.  I appreciate everyone's help with this, as I'm learning the SAK game as I go along, especially Wengers.  My son has a real attraction for the Flyfisherman, as that is his hobby, and loves Wengers too.  Prior to my joining the forum, I had a lone Vic Huntsman that I got new in '83, a Classic from '85, and a late '90's PST.  Now my collection is growing to the point that I might be sleeping with it in my 71 VW Camper lol!!  You guys are awesome and I really appreciate the education and the help.  :tu: :tu:

On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:

The fishing fly shows up on both the Fly Fisherman and Angler, the two knives on the bottom right. Would not be surprised to see it on one of the other fishing knives Wenger did (Troller, Catch and Release, etc).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 03, 2016, 01:09:21 AM
On the hunt for a Wenger Flyfisherman, I've had some responses.  I don't see a Flyfisherman in this group, but am not sure what they are.  I believe one  is a Trout and the other a Fisherman.  SG, can you tell?

I don't recognize the imprint of the one from the top  :think:

I believe it's the later Fisherman logo also appearing on the EVO Fisherman (19). ColoSwiss has one on Classic Style scales in his pic!  :2tu:

Fisherman 19 (seller's pic)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QQVR-V8DL._SS160_.jpg)


The stylized trout is not the logo appearing on the top knife in the photo. Hard to tell, but it looks like it might be a fish on a line.   :think:

I cleaned my glasses, blew the pic up and you're right, on a line.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 04, 2016, 05:11:57 PM
According to my 1 cup of coffee google-fu this morning, this is a variant of the fly fisherman (cat # 1.19.25) with a trout printed on the scale instead of a fly. The outside back springs are a bit weak, but the blade/tools are all like new.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Fly%20Fisherman%20Variant/IMG_1357.jpg)


I just noticed the missing tweezers  :-[. Surprisingly (to me) there isn't a place for a toothpick on the other scale  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: NetsNJ on February 04, 2016, 06:17:32 PM
Is that a flat phillips driver in the main blade layer?

Edit: After googling, I see that it is!  Fantastic.  I would much have this tool than the nail file.  I hadn't seen that before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Humppa on February 04, 2016, 07:20:13 PM
I like Wenger very much...

(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t489/kampfgockel2/IMG_4950_zpsbctbi8be.jpg) (http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/kampfgockel2/media/IMG_4950_zpsbctbi8be.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 04, 2016, 07:59:14 PM
I like it Dave!  I really like that screwdriver....it sure comes in handy dealing with fishing reels :D


According to my 1 cup of coffee google-fu this morning, this is a variant of the fly fisherman (cat # 1.19.25) with a trout printed on the scale instead of a fly. The outside back springs are a bit weak, but the blade/tools are all like new.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Fly%20Fisherman%20Variant/IMG_1357.jpg)


I just noticed the missing tweezers  :-[. Surprisingly (to me) there isn't a place for a toothpick on the other scale  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 04, 2016, 08:00:21 PM
A Genuine Swiss Army Knife with genuine Swiss cold cure tea!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 05, 2016, 03:36:26 AM
Had one with screwdriver land today...

NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman. 
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 05, 2016, 03:41:34 AM
Had one with screwdriver land today...

NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman. 
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)

So nice and so rare with its Precise paper
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 05, 2016, 04:58:26 AM
Had one with screwdriver land today...

NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman. 
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)

So nice and so rare with its Precise paper

Thank you sir!   :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 05, 2016, 05:00:35 AM
I just won one on EBay....appears to be a 4 layer with scissors, saw, etc. and a Philips head and punch on the backstrap.   Pictures to follow....I can hardly wait for it to get here!  I haven't had a chance to figure out the model, but it only cost me $11.50. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 05, 2016, 05:06:03 AM
Found a Pathfinder in the pile tonight. It has a flat screwdriver as well.

Snapshot...

Here's the wiki on it.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pathfinder
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 05, 2016, 05:07:35 AM
I just won one on EBay....appears to be a 4 layer with scissors, saw, etc. and a Philips head and punch on the backstrap.   Pictures to follow....I can hardly wait for it to get here!  I haven't had a chance to figure out the model, but it only cost me $11.50. :D

Congrats!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 05, 2016, 05:33:39 AM
Well, I'm slipping...

I guess this Wenger/Precise Pathfinder came in a week or so ago.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 05, 2016, 10:41:37 AM
Thanks SG!  Great looking knives!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: charlie fox on February 06, 2016, 12:23:33 PM
Lately since they've been cross-polinated with Vic I'm liking some of the combos - I've always liked Wenger's scissors and Vic's can opener. Now I can have them together on the same tool!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: matzesu on February 06, 2016, 05:57:13 PM
I decidet to carry my shoulderback for running to took my keys and smartphone whit me,
Also my ipod touch have its place in this back,
And because i now have more carryng space, mybe now its time to also carry a poketknife..

And because my SC XLT from VIC  is too big and havy, its my good old Wenger Evogrip S557 which is now the SAK i carry whyle i run my
 8 km the week..
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 10, 2016, 12:13:28 PM
I'm really liking my new to me Handyman.  It carries like a dream, especially for a 4 layer.  The blade is razor sharp, and the scissors are a dream!  It's been in my pocket since I cleaned it up, and I think we're going on many an adventure together :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 10, 2016, 04:26:15 PM
I'm really liking my new to me Handyman.  It carries like a dream, especially for a 4 layer.  The blade is razor sharp, and the scissors are a dream!  It's been in my pocket since I cleaned it up, and I think we're going on many an adventure together :D

Wengers are cool!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on February 10, 2016, 05:00:39 PM
I'm really liking my new to me Handyman.  It carries like a dream, especially for a 4 layer.  The blade is razor sharp, and the scissors are a dream!  It's been in my pocket since I cleaned it up, and I think we're going on many an adventure together :D

Sounds like a winner   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on February 11, 2016, 04:22:50 AM
Using my Rangerclip 78 for pruning some plum and pear trees today. Got a bigger saw for some of the branches, but for a lot of them the Ranger saw was just right.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160211/009793fddede8a79e4c6474d2eb82349.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Christoph Henzmann on February 11, 2016, 09:12:23 AM
yesss!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: moonweasel on February 13, 2016, 06:05:17 AM
My first Wengers.
More than likely more to follow.
(http://i.imgur.com/QDh0Nvel.jpg) (http://imgur.com/QDh0Nve)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 13, 2016, 06:11:17 AM
I guarantee it Moonweasel.  2 months ago I had zero.  Now I've 2 and just picked up one for my son....once you start you can't stop!!  :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 13, 2016, 06:42:19 AM
I guarantee it Moonweasel.  2 months ago I had zero.  Now I've 2 and just picked up one for my son....once you start you can't stop!!  :ahhh

Yeah, that's how it goes.....   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: now you ready on February 13, 2016, 07:36:44 PM
Bye-bye, Wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 14, 2016, 02:34:23 AM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 14, 2016, 03:42:10 AM
Computer Wiz....

Nice and rare !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 14, 2016, 03:48:26 AM
Nice one SG....love that one size fits all wrench!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 14, 2016, 05:19:34 AM
Thanks guys!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 15, 2016, 03:26:43 PM
Wenger Swiss Sportsman
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Sportsman

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Swiss%20Sportsman/IMG_1383.jpg)

A 2 D Phillips driver replaces the small clip blade and a "L.L. Bean" imprint is barely visible on the scale. It has a 5 turn corkscrew and the cap lifter/ slotted screwdriver doesn't have the locking feature.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on February 15, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
Turns out what I thought was an 85mm is more like a 75mm SAK after comparing it to my other models.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on February 15, 2016, 03:48:28 PM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 15, 2016, 06:26:37 PM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!

Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!!   :salute:

Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on February 15, 2016, 06:36:47 PM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!

Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!!   :salute:

Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz

Very cool, you're famous. I wan't to be on the wiki!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 15, 2016, 06:43:19 PM
We are also in the Wiki !  >:D

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester#Variations_

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3268

It was an honor !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 15, 2016, 08:01:58 PM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!

Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!!   :salute:

Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz

Very cool, you're famous. I wan't to be on the wiki!

Thanks!! Phone's ringing off the hook.....    ;)   :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 15, 2016, 08:03:23 PM
We are also in the Wiki !  >:D

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Forester#Variations_

http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3268

It was an honor !

Very nice Jean-Claude!   :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on February 17, 2016, 07:48:22 AM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!

Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!!   :salute:

Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz

Congrats SAK Guy.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 17, 2016, 07:59:56 AM
Computer Wiz....

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/obverse_zps1mdse0at.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/reverse_zpsjtng3zvz.jpg)

I like the UNH advert!

Thanks!!! It earned it a place on the Wiki!!!!   :salute:

Variation 2
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Computer+Wiz

Congrats SAK Guy.   :cheers:

Thank you Z-man!!!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 17, 2016, 08:54:25 PM
With a lot of help from SAKGuy, a Wenger Flyfisherman destined for my son, a flyfisherman!  It's seen some use, but cleaned up nicely.  Now I'm on the hunt for one :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 17, 2016, 08:56:31 PM
On a different note, how can you be able to narrow down the vintage on a Wenger?  As my collection keeps growing, I'd love to know how much history some of them have lived.   Does Victorinox honor the Wenger warranty now that they are the parent company?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 17, 2016, 09:05:09 PM
On a different note, how can you be able to narrow down the vintage on a Wenger?  As my collection keeps growing, I'd love to know how much history some of them have lived.   Does Victorinox honor the Wenger warranty now that they are the parent company?

As convoluted as Vic history can be...Wenger is worse.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 17, 2016, 09:28:48 PM
Robert, I had a feeling..... :facepalm:  Oh well, like an old warhorse, sometimes your imagination tells the best histories! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 17, 2016, 09:32:44 PM
On a different note, how can you be able to narrow down the vintage on a Wenger?  As my collection keeps growing, I'd love to know how much history some of them have lived.   Does Victorinox honor the Wenger warranty now that they are the parent company?

That's quasi impossible to know with precision the wenger knives history because all the archives were burned with the factory in 1986.

But with my experience and a lot of research, I made a little 'time-line' (in french):

You can download this file here (3rd Update) : Eléments de datation Wenger V3 (http://www.jcfiguet.com/CDM/images/doc/Wenger/Datation/Datation_V3.pdf)

**** Exact date, determined from reliable sources
*** Excellent reliability, approximate date determined from several reliable and convergent sources
** Medium reliability, approximate date determined from several convergent sources
* Low reliability, approximate date determined from assumptions

And if you want more information on Wenger, contact me by PM (or my links will be censored by some moderators).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 17, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
Thanks JC!  PM sent.  I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 17, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
Thanks JC!  PM sent.  I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh

Only five ? I own more 600 ! LOL :D

5, It's a good begining ! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on February 18, 2016, 01:41:40 AM
Fell in love with this Swiss Clip AT the first time I used it. This is one Victorinox should have carried over with the 580 as it omitted the pen blade for a micro driver to make it TSA friendly for airline travel. That's the reason I bought it.


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Wenger%20Swiss%20Clipper%20AT.jpg)


One fine Wenger!


John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 18, 2016, 02:24:07 AM
I aspire to have half that many!!

Thanks JC!  PM sent.  I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh

Only five ? I own more 600 ! LOL :D

5, It's a good begining ! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 18, 2016, 04:09:52 AM
I aspire to have half that many!!

Thanks JC!  PM sent.  I'm a growing Wenger fan, with 5 in my household at the present! :ahhh

Only five ? I own more 600 ! LOL :D

5, It's a good begining ! :cheers:

LOL ! I hope you will have even more !  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on February 18, 2016, 05:24:16 AM
Just ordered my first SAK in a long time.  Evogrip S18.  My first 'Wenger' ever.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 20, 2016, 06:24:16 PM
Just in....  :D

A NIB Wenger Precise Adventurer
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Adventurer_zpshvjrauxe.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 20, 2016, 09:21:29 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: I love it Robert!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 20, 2016, 09:36:46 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool: I love it Robert!

Thanks Barry!!! Been looking for an Adventurer for a while.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on February 20, 2016, 09:41:38 PM
That's a nice one buddy  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 20, 2016, 10:36:40 PM
That's a nice one buddy  :tu:

Thanks Steve!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 21, 2016, 01:51:42 AM
Good for you Robert!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on February 21, 2016, 12:30:08 PM
Received this very nice LNIB Wenger Executive a couple days ago . . . Wenger's slightly larger version of Victorinox's Classic


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2001.jpg)


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2002.jpg)


There is a significant irony here, with Wenger having been bought by Victorinox. From the "Stonecutter" name, a "75" emblazoned over a diamond and "1920 - 1995" on the back, it's fairly easy to deduce it's celebrating a 75th diamond anniversary. Who, then, was Stonecutter? It was a textile mill in Spindale, North Carolina, and it was one of the largest and most efficient in the region. Unfortunately, when the clothing making (aka "the needles") went across the Pacific, the demand for textiles plummeted. Little did they know as they celebrated their 75th Diamond Jubilee, that in four short years they would have zero orders for textiles, not one. Stonecutter wasn't the only mill either. The entire region of North Carolina was hit by economic hardship that lasted for years as all the textile mills shut down. As one person described it, they went over a cliff going from nearly full production to zero in just a few years.


It's a beautiful Executive, with the excellent Wenger scissors, and not quite as excellent (IMHO) tweezers. Underneath it is the white vinyl pouch it was in inside the box. Currently lives in the box, stashed in a drawer, as I continue to debate whether or not to use it, as I'm very much a knife user, but unlike the other, this one has a story behind it, albeit a tragic one.


John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on February 21, 2016, 07:23:02 PM
Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissors

Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 21, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
Good snag!!!  Not super rare, I have 2 or 3 (I think) but you don't see them very much. Come up on ebay every couple of months or so..

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Tactile+-+Soft-Touch+Series

Went and dragged them out....
I have 2 like yours and one of the classic scale type...a Traveler variant.

Like this Traveler variant from SAKWiki...
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2862)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: duky on February 22, 2016, 10:20:35 AM
My first SAK was wenger. More than 20 years wenger everest.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/922fb8622a13f22e75773f67995334d3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 24, 2016, 06:07:44 PM
One of my oldest Wengers is this is an Adventurer from the early 1970s. When I found it, it was super cruddy.. I gave it 30 minutes in an ultra-sonic cleaner filled with Windex and it was better but not clean by any measure.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Adventrer/ADVENTURER1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 24, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
I like it Dave!  Some of the best knives are the ones you got to clean up and show some love.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boaz on February 24, 2016, 10:32:35 PM

One of my oldest Wengers is this is an Adventurer from the early 1970s. When I found it, it was super cruddy.. I gave it 30 minutes in an ultra-sonic cleaner filled with Windex and it was better but not clean by any measure.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Adventrer/ADVENTURER1.jpg)

Very nice, I like the design of the can opener, it looks a bit "different" from others.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 24, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
I like it Dave!  Some of the best knives are the ones you got to clean up and show some love.   :cheers:

This guy was one of the grungiest SAKs I've ever seen. First, I washed it in hot soapy water, scrubbing it with a toothbrush. When I was done, it went from horrid to terrible. Several cycles in the ultra-sonic cleaner and Windex made it fairly presentable. There is still gunk between the scissor blades and I can't even imagine what is under the scales -but it is a beauty to me :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 24, 2016, 10:43:39 PM

Very nice, I like the design of the can opener, it looks a bit "different" from others.

I haven't used this particular knife's can opener, but I have used another Wenger dog-leg type can opener some years ago. It works, but it leaves quite a ragged can lid that is a pain to dispose of. I much prefer the newer Wenger opener and the current Victorinox is the best opener on a knife - OMO.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boaz on February 24, 2016, 10:45:38 PM


Very nice, I like the design of the can opener, it looks a bit "different" from others.

I haven't used this particular knife's can opener, but I have used another Wenger dog-leg type can opener some years ago. It works, but it leaves quite a ragged can lid that is a pain to dispose of. I much prefer the newer Wenger opener and the current Victorinox is the best opener on a knife - OMO.

Possibly a case of form over function, I had to look closely to be sure it was the opener. Don't change what isn't broken!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 26, 2016, 08:48:07 PM
Decided to take a group shot earlier of my Wenger Rangers.
Forgot to add both Ranger models from the United Woods Set
Plus the small collection of 120mm Rangers.

There's also a further 5  130 Rangers expected shortly to add to those above.

And then.....and then....

That's it  :ahhh

Obviously there are several missing that I don't have, nor do I actually see myself getting such is the rarity these days.

The Snow 97, 181 SpearFishing, Ranger 67, Alinghi Rescue Knife & Squadron Rescue Knife will become part of my Holy Grail.

I also picked up the matching 85mm models which complete the sets of those shown below.
Once everything's in, I'll begin systematically grouping and photographing all the sets.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on February 26, 2016, 09:23:30 PM
Impressive collection tosh  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 26, 2016, 09:59:45 PM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on February 26, 2016, 10:27:23 PM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 26, 2016, 11:08:44 PM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.

Lol of course and the Ranger 198 and... I just wanted to tease Tosh...

But anyway it's a nice collection.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 26, 2016, 11:13:06 PM
Great collection. If you're interested there's also a Ranger 55 with blue handles done for the Swiss Border Police (Grenzwachtkorps).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Etherealicer on February 26, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.

Lol of course and the Ranger 198 and... I just wanted to tease Tosh...

But anyway it's a nice collection.
Well, I was not joking but I was wrong, there are 4 Alinghi knifes
176, 177, 171 and:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48944.0;attach=89715;image)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 26, 2016, 11:27:21 PM
The moral of this story: No one has everything. (And we're here to help point it out.   :D  )
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on February 27, 2016, 12:25:27 AM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.


Lol of course and the Ranger 198 and... I just wanted to tease Tosh...

But anyway it's a nice collection.
Well, I was not joking but I was wrong, there are 4 Alinghi knifes
176, 177, 171 and:
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48944.0;attach=89715;image)

 :drool:  :drool:

Trust you to show that gorgeous Alinghi Rescue.......  :twak:  :twak:  :ahhh

Still 3 out of 4 Alinghis ain't bad  (176, 177 &  SUi1) are somewhere in there  ;) as is the 198
Was going to group them, got as far as the middle row when "She" rang to say she'd be home in 10 minutes!!  :ahhh

@ JC. - I've deliberately left room for a Ranger Giant  :D  :pok:  :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 27, 2016, 12:33:06 AM
Yes ! Impressive collection !!!  :drool:

But one is missing!...  >:D
One :think: There should be at least three 130mm Alinghi knifes (can't tell the black ones apart but presumably he would have put them together). And certainly the red Alinghi knife is missing.

I would like to take this one in my hands ! Just one time !!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on February 27, 2016, 12:36:43 AM
...

@ JC. - I've deliberately left room for a Ranger Giant  :D  :pok:  :pok:

LOL !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on February 27, 2016, 01:39:27 AM
Impressive collection tosh  :cheers:

+1000!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on February 27, 2016, 10:25:27 PM
Impressive collection tosh  :cheers:

I agree

Wowsers! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 01, 2016, 11:29:51 PM
Blk Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on March 02, 2016, 12:06:42 AM
Love the look of those Black Wenger's   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sLaughterMed on March 02, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
Blk Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 02, 2016, 12:41:40 AM
Love the look of those Black Wenger's   :tu:

They are pretty awesome looking!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 02, 2016, 01:00:20 AM
Blk Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.


And get one of these:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Sportsman

And get an inline flat Phillips!  :2tu:

I'll be toting one tomorrow...   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on March 02, 2016, 01:09:57 AM
Love the look of those Black Wenger's   :tu:

They are pretty awesome looking!!!  :cheers:

They seem to be few and far between.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sLaughterMed on March 02, 2016, 02:05:47 AM
Blk Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Blk%20Traveler_zpslv0wkdhm.jpg)
I have really got to get myself a some version of that knife. a 3 layer 85mm with corkscrew and scissors would very quickly replace my Climber in my rotation.


And get one of these:

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Sportsman

And get an inline flat Phillips!  :2tu:

I'll be toting one tomorrow...   :cheers:

Geez theres a lot of variations on the Traveler frame. That ones new to me.

 I like the locking blade concept, and even had a S18 for a short time, but got rid of it as soon as I tried to carry it on my usual dangler setup. The lock release was too grabby in my pocket, with the back tools against my leg. The concept might work better for me on an S14, assuming is lays with the scale side against my leg instead.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 02, 2016, 04:38:43 AM
Love the look of those Black Wenger's   :tu:

They are pretty awesome looking!!!  :cheers:

They seem to be few and far between.

Wenger offered a wide variety of black-handled knives at one time, but most of them seem to have been part of a special series call the 'Black Selection'.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 03, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: Nice knives all!!  Robert, that Swiss Sportsman looks like a nice must have....I love the look of the one pictured in SAKWiki :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 03, 2016, 10:24:18 PM
Thx Barry!!!!  Yes, the green is awesome!  Think I have all three colors but will have to check and see.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on March 04, 2016, 08:34:34 PM
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?

extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on March 04, 2016, 08:42:35 PM

Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissors

Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
What were you after, then?


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on March 04, 2016, 09:27:09 PM

Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissors

Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
What were you after, then?


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

A red Alox advertising knife for Terex GM, the original "Euc".

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/trucks-and-heavy-equipment/highway-side-classic-1973-terex-titan-33-19-the-worlds-biggest-truck/

They also manufacture cranes, I have a few American lattice boom crawler cranes which Terex eventually bought out
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 04, 2016, 10:08:21 PM
Those babies are beasts!  My brother in law works on them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 05, 2016, 05:18:01 AM
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?

extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.

Don't think I've seen that version with a scissors before. A rare knife!   :tu:

Here's an earlier thread with several similar knives. Yours appears to have a more modern awl.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54113.msg937082.html#msg937082

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on March 05, 2016, 01:08:45 PM
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?

extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.

Don't think I've seen that version with a scissors before. A rare knife!   :tu:

Here's an earlier thread with several similar knives. Yours appears to have a more modern awl.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54113.msg937082.html#msg937082

I have one like that too, I don't believe this one is quite that old. Here are some pictures for comparison with other similar knives I have.

Its a Wenger Tahara, commissioned for Neiman Marcus department store, with either aluminum or stainless steel scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: shadowrider on March 05, 2016, 02:35:48 PM
Those black Wengers are awesome!
I knew I shouldn't have joined the forum... Now I'm gonna have to hunt down and get me one.  :rant:

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on March 06, 2016, 12:21:14 AM
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?

extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.

Neiman Marcus is just an advertizing... Stainless steel and stamped "Wenger Tahara", I suppose it was manufactured between 1919 and 1942...

Very interesting !

I have an older one (without Neiman Marcus without scisors)... Carbon steel blades and the logo of "Wenger & Co" period, so between 1916 and 1919...

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/12/24/75/57/a10.jpg)

I suppose my knife was the next version of the model 504 A (A=Aluminium) of 1900's to 1910's

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t11.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 06, 2016, 03:01:48 AM
 :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on March 06, 2016, 03:31:33 AM
Stainless or Aluminum scaled Wenger Tahara for Neiman Marcus?

extremely good shape, snaps like a bear trap and its definitely a nail breaker. I've never seen one of these even on the multi tool museum.

I suppose your Neiman Marcus was the next version of a model 506... Perhaps a "506 A" (A=Aluminium) ?

This photo comes from an old wenger document about 1900's to 1910's

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/24/75/57/50610.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 07, 2016, 09:18:53 PM
My love for Wenger grows by the day!!  Here is a sunny photo of my son's Flyfisherman coupled with my Handyman.  I like carrying the Handyman because it's a sweet 4 layer that matches the thickness of a Vic 3 layer, and 85 mm is hardly noticeable in my pocket. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on March 07, 2016, 10:31:10 PM
A new-to-me Wenger Commander


(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa284/DaveB58/Knives/SAKs/Wenger/Commander/Commander.jpg)

The scales have some pocket wear, but the blade and such are like new  :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 08, 2016, 12:30:09 AM
Looks great Dave!  Mine are the same way...the stainless that Wenger used sure seemed to hold up well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: DaveBr on March 08, 2016, 12:38:39 AM
Looks great Dave!  Mine are the same way...the stainless that Wenger used sure seemed to hold up well.

I'm also impressed by the lack of corrosion on the Wenger liners. My older Vic's liners have much more corrosion than the liners in my older Wengers. The finish on the Wenger's steel is also a bit better, I suppose it could be from getting less use than the Vics do. In any case, I have been fortunate to acquire several Wengers with pocket wear on the scales and ZERO evidence of use :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 08, 2016, 01:01:51 AM
Looks great Dave!  Mine are the same way...the stainless that Wenger used sure seemed to hold up well.

I'm also impressed by the lack of corrosion on the Wenger liners. My older Vic's liners have much more corrosion than the liners in my older Wengers. The finish on the Wenger's steel is also a bit better, I suppose it could be from getting less use than the Vics do. In any case, I have been fortunate to acquire several Wengers with pocket wear on the scales and ZERO evidence of use :ahhh

+1! In the course of running through hundreds of used SAKs, I've had many very stiff (nail breaker) Vics and 4-5 wielded completely shut but not a single Wenger in those conditions. I think the Wenger liners are more resistant to corrosion.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 08, 2016, 12:25:45 PM
I agree Robert.  The Wengers are so nice to open compared to a lot of the older Vics.  They really do seem to age well!   :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 10, 2016, 01:20:35 PM
This recent arrival should be posted here . . . it's a real beauty . . . an EvoGrip Blackout 11 in a limited edition of 50 made in 2013. Note the engraving in the scales and on the blade!

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Wenger%20Black%20Out%2011%20MTO%207th%20Anniv%2003.jpg)

Hmmm . . . a fingerprint smudge visible . . . make note to check for that better!

John

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on March 10, 2016, 02:20:32 PM
Beauty  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 10, 2016, 06:11:29 PM
+1!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 11, 2016, 01:24:29 AM
+1!!!!

+2!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 12, 2016, 11:36:08 PM
More love for Wenger . . . with this Evolution 63, the Wenger version of the Victorinox Waiter. The combo blade is very nice.


(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Wenger%20Evolution%2063.jpg)


John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 13, 2016, 02:03:51 AM
Nice one John :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 13, 2016, 04:58:37 AM
Finally dug out a few Swiss Sportsman Wengers....here are the three colors in a totally weird creative pic. The green one is the scarce serrated version. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 14, 2016, 01:44:28 PM
Robert, they are NICE!!!!   :drool: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 14, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
Robert, they are NICE!!!!   :drool: :tu:

Thx buddy!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on March 15, 2016, 09:51:45 PM
Recently won an auction for this beastly 6 layer vintage Wenger listed as a Suisse Multi Tool Pocket Knife Red. There was little action as a result of the listing title, however there was a bit of a bid war within the last hour of the auction and I ended up with it for what I feel was very reasonable. I'm excited to get it in, these are the listing pictures. I believe it has the rare snow scraper.

Wenger Master Sportsman's Knife? http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: yud on March 15, 2016, 09:58:59 PM
Don't you just love it when the seller does not know how to market the item
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 15, 2016, 10:01:53 PM
Recently won an auction for this beastly 6 layer vintage Wenger listed as a Suisse Multi Tool Pocket Knife Red. There was little action as a result of the listing title, however there was a bit of a bid war within the last hour of the auction and I ended up with it for what I feel was very reasonable. I'm excited to get it in, these are the listing pictures. I believe it has the rare snow scraper.

Wenger Master Sportsman's Knife? http://www.multi-tool.org...vintage-swiss-army-knives (http://www.multi-tool.org/vintage-swiss-army-knives)


Super find! :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: NetsNJ on March 15, 2016, 10:35:46 PM
Great find PileDriver02128!!  :salute:

Finally dug out a few Swiss Sportsman Wengers....here are the three colors in a totally weird creative pic. The green one is the scarce serrated version.

I have a few of these.  Looking to snatch up more since they are discontinued.  I'll be honest, I basically consider this knife the perfect EDC.  The flat phillips has so much more utility than the nail file.

Inline phillips? Check.  Beastly Wenger can opener?  Check.  Corkscrew?  Check.  Locking blade?  Check.

It is amazing.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 15, 2016, 11:37:28 PM
I agree!!! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 15, 2016, 11:51:01 PM
Great find PileDriver02128!!  :salute:

Finally dug out a few Swiss Sportsman Wengers....here are the three colors in a totally weird creative pic. The green one is the scarce serrated version.

I have a few of these.  Looking to snatch up more since they are discontinued.  I'll be honest, I basically consider this knife the perfect EDC.  The flat phillips has so much more utility than the nail file.

Inline phillips? Check.  Beastly Wenger can opener?  Check.  Corkscrew?  Check.  Locking blade?  Check.

It is amazing.

This vintage one is from about 4 pages back...didn't know if you got a chance to see it.

NIB Wenger/Precise LL Bean Swiss Sportsman. 
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/LLB%20Swiss%20Sportsman2_zpsc9381tl6.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 15, 2016, 11:54:19 PM
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 16, 2016, 12:00:17 AM
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:

Thanks buddy!!!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on March 16, 2016, 12:50:17 AM
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:

+1  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 16, 2016, 12:58:08 AM
Great pic Robert :tu: :tu: :tu:

+1  :cheers:

Thank you Steve!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 16, 2016, 01:29:05 AM
Hi PD,

Not sure if Master Sportsman is an official Wenger name or a dealer name. Most Wengers of that period are unnamed.

Still it looks like you might have one. Its got the proper number of layers (6), and the crossbow shield and phillips sd.

Nice score!   :tu:

Karl

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 16, 2016, 01:54:25 AM
In addition to the above:

I only have one picture of a old 6-layer Wenger with the crossbow shield (the Master Sportsman). However on the later version with the cross-in-a-triangular-shield I have pictures of two different 6 layer knives. One has the scraper and the other has a plain metal file. Both of those have corkscrews. Very likely I don't have info on all versions.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on March 17, 2016, 12:45:48 AM


Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissors

Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
What were you after, then?


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

A red Alox advertising knife for Terex GM, the original "Euc".

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/trucks-and-heavy-equipment/highway-side-classic-1973-terex-titan-33-19-the-worlds-biggest-truck/

They also manufacture cranes, I have a few American lattice boom crawler cranes which Terex eventually bought out
Terex had its main crane manufacturing factory in my town.


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 18, 2016, 08:44:48 PM
Posting this here too . . . a trio of BNIB Commanders with Loctite and Permatex logos . . . with obvious shelf age on the boxes and with aging lube in the knives. They are in pristine condition. Very nice Wenger equivalent of the 84mm Vic Sportsman, sans T&T.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Commander%20Loctite.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 18, 2016, 09:37:15 PM
Nice John :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 18, 2016, 09:38:46 PM
Couple in today....

Airvac Blue Traveler and a Black EVO 14
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Mail%20call%203-18-16_zpsmdad8fvh.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 18, 2016, 09:43:20 PM
 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 18, 2016, 09:48:31 PM
:tu: :tu:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 18, 2016, 10:10:58 PM
Robert I've made room upstairs to help you house your Wengers when you run outta room in Texas!!  I'll even drive down to pick them up for you!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 18, 2016, 10:26:05 PM
Nice John :tu: :tu:


Thanks Barry . . . I'm beginning to appreciate the Wenger models more as I get a few and handle them.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 19, 2016, 12:00:04 AM
Robert I've made room upstairs to help you house your Wengers when you run outta room in Texas!!  I'll even drive down to pick them up for you!! :cheers:

 :rofl: :rofl:   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SteveC on March 19, 2016, 12:14:40 AM
Robert I've made room upstairs to help you house your Wengers when you run outta room in Texas!!  I'll even drive down to pick them up for you!! :cheers:

 :rofl: :rofl:   :cheers:

You are a good friend Barry    :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tiberias5 on March 19, 2016, 02:41:48 AM
My neighbor's elderly wife gave me her husbands Wenger to show appreciation for all the help we gave them, sadly he died.  I never payed much attention to it but last week took it out of my drawer and started to do some research on it.  I see it's from the dynasty series but after reading this thread i'm not sure if I have a Lancelot or a King Arthur.  My knife has a large mouth bass instead of the fisherman shown on all the Lancelot's i could find on the internet.  Any help would be appreciated and does it have much value?  (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j199/bauhaus92/IMG_6601_zpswihbctts.jpg) 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 19, 2016, 02:56:50 AM
The King Arthur has the fish near the bottom; the Lancelot has a hunter in the same location. Both models also came in plain black versions with only the crest.

The Lancelot had 11 blades. The Arthur had 13 blades (added inline phillips and universal wrench). The Arthur also has greater detail on the animals (note the wings on the pheasants).


By the way, welcome aboard!  Nice knife!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 19, 2016, 03:06:21 AM
Cool knife and welcome!!!! :salute:

Great stuff as always Karl!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tiberias5 on March 19, 2016, 03:24:18 AM
The King Arthur has the fish near the bottom; the Lancelot has a hunter in the same location. Both models also came in plain black versions with only the crest.

The Lancelot had 11 blades. The Arthur had 13 blades (added inline phillips and universal wrench). The Arthur also has greater detail on the animals (note the wings on the pheasants).


By the way, welcome aboard!  Nice knife!   :cheers:
Thanks  -  Awesome picture showing the difference thanks for clarifying the differences.  I'm gonna hold on to this one but just curious to know how common it is. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 19, 2016, 05:09:45 AM
They're part of the Dynasty series. Fairly uncommon, and out of production for over 20 years.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Dynasty+Series
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tiberias5 on March 19, 2016, 05:41:33 AM
They're part of the Dynasty series. Fairly uncommon, and out of production for over 20 years.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Dynasty+Series
Thanks for the link that's a great resource site. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on March 19, 2016, 07:36:03 AM
Welcome to the forum tiberias5.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 19, 2016, 11:31:09 AM
We try!! :rofl: :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 23, 2016, 01:21:41 AM
Here's a good deal on a Jorg Hysek Wenger. (I already have one)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JORG-HYSEK-SWISS-KNIFE-WENGER-SWITZERLAND-CARBON-FIBER-/222061778149?hash=item33b3e9d4e5:g:YF8AAOSwvFZW8Wpo

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 23, 2016, 11:28:06 AM
I'm amazed every day by the number of awesome knives Wenger put out.  Every day I learn a new one! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 26, 2016, 03:46:49 AM
These should be posted here . . . just came in today . . . a pair of Wenger EvoGrip 64, their Evolution equivalent of the Victorinox Apprentice, with a single layer that contains a large blade, combo opener with flat tip driver, and Phillips on the back layer.
 
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20EvoGrip%2064.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 26, 2016, 04:28:35 AM
 :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ivan_partizan on March 26, 2016, 07:09:16 AM
Here's my new/old Wenger) But I do not know what a model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Zephon on March 28, 2016, 05:29:34 AM
Something I picked up for USD35 plus shipping.  I think it's a Wenger Tool Chest (Plus?).

Here's a few pics of it.  It's well-worn -- lots of scratches on the tools, blade and can opener had dings on the edges, didn't have that snap when closing.  Had to use penetrating oil to get gunk out. 

Noticed that the blade had that "W" on the other side.  There's also "Patent" on the cap lifter and scissors. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Zephon on March 28, 2016, 05:30:54 AM
More pics.

It's also my first time to have a SAK with slip-joint pliers.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 28, 2016, 07:29:13 AM
Nice score Zeph!!!!!  Congrats!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Zephon on March 28, 2016, 09:47:17 AM
Nice score Zeph!!!!!  Congrats!! :cheers:


Thanks so much!

I can't help but wonder though on why the inline driver, cap lifter, and scissors all have "Patent" in them.....was it an earlier model? a latter model?

Quite funny that 2 iPhones and the compass in this tool can't seem to agree where North is supposed to be.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 28, 2016, 10:46:49 PM
Great looker Zeph!   :tu: :tu: 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on March 29, 2016, 03:57:11 AM
These NOS Highlander and Evolution S10 that were BNIBP (Brand New in Bubble Pack) recently arrived. The Highlander equates to the Vic Small Tinker with nail file in place of the pen blade. The Wenger Evolution S10 became the Vic Delemont Evo S101 as it has the small clip blade in place of the nail file.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Highlander%20amp%20Evolution%20S10%2001.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 29, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
Corona Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/My%20Corona_zpsbq53wzdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sLaughterMed on March 29, 2016, 05:24:25 AM
Corona Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/My%20Corona_zpsbq53wzdd.jpg)
Nice choice in advertising
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 29, 2016, 08:47:59 AM
Corona Traveler....
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/My%20Corona_zpsbq53wzdd.jpg)
Nice choice in advertising

:D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 06, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
I can't get enough of them! :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: carlinpole on April 24, 2016, 04:46:23 AM
I bought these one in 1995
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/d23713059ec391d5fb29d90fcf6e1f93.jpg)

Enviado desde mi D5803 mediante Tapatalk

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 24, 2016, 02:15:36 PM
I just placed an order for a Wenger Cigar 79!  Been tempted by these for years and finally decided to jump on one.  Anyone here have/use one?  Would love some pics while I wait for mine to arrive.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 24, 2016, 05:00:09 PM
I just placed an order for a Wenger Cigar 79!  Been tempted by these for years and finally decided to jump on one.  Anyone here have/use one?  Would love some pics while I wait for mine to arrive.

I have the Vic 36 and Wenger Original (between the 36 and 79).  Love them, they work great!!!!!! A nice clean cut on stogies.

My 36 lives in my cigar travel box and my Orig is one of my knife bags.

Some pix of both:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 24, 2016, 05:49:31 PM
I just placed an order for a Wenger Cigar 79!  Been tempted by these for years and finally decided to jump on one.  Anyone here have/use one?  Would love some pics while I wait for mine to arrive.

I have the Vic 36 and Wenger Original (between the 36 and 79).  Love them, they work great!!!!!! A nice clean cut on stogies.

My 36 lives in my cigar travel box and my Orig is one of my knife bags.

Some pix of both:

Thanks for the post!  Somehow I had a feeling you'd have something to share  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 28, 2016, 04:53:44 AM
Cigar 79 showed up today.  I love it!  Can't wait to try it out :)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_223832.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_223832.jpg.html)
(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_224101.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_224101.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 28, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
That's a nice one Clown!  How do you like the clipper?  I have a cigar from time to time, and was thinking about this knife the last time I had some with some friends.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 28, 2016, 01:21:28 PM
That's a nice one Clown!  How do you like the clipper?  I have a cigar from time to time, and was thinking about this knife the last time I had some with some friends.

The operation on the cutter is silky smooth.  Hoping to get a chance to try it on stogie today.  I'll report back with my thoughts. :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 28, 2016, 04:31:20 PM
Works like a  boss!
(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160428_095230.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160428_095230.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 28, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
They are well designed!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 28, 2016, 10:38:38 PM
Sweeeeett!!!!!! :tu: :tu:  I want one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on April 29, 2016, 02:42:47 AM
Sweeeeett!!!!!! :tu: :tu:  I want one!

Do it!  Have you tried the Vic Alox Cigar knife with the punches?  Think I might try to snag one of those next to try out.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toolguy on April 29, 2016, 02:57:10 AM
Old school Wenger camo side lock.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 29, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
Not yet Robert, but I could sure justify having one buddy! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on April 29, 2016, 04:10:43 PM
Patagonian Expedition Race EvoGrip S16

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Patagonian%20Expedition%20Race%20S16_zpssxyiuolt.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 30, 2016, 01:22:15 AM
 :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on April 30, 2016, 10:46:27 AM
I've always preferred the ergos and looks of Wenger knives, but truth be told, now I only own two Wenger

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13133307_1067805476614631_8310796593909841691_n_zpsuk2vxkui.jpg)

and lots of Vics.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13138873_1067805669947945_2252764334119033991_n_zpsuqnkivmt.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13133314_1067805656614613_6853759918500691374_n_zps9btd8pyk.jpg)

Dunno why, I must've lost them or gifted them away, but their pliers, scissors and locking blades are much better IMO.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13102818_1067805519947960_6939586273568811315_n_zps1aojcdtt.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 30, 2016, 12:51:19 PM
You've a nice collection Peacent, and two sharp Wengers! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on April 30, 2016, 01:02:57 PM
Cigar 79 showed up today.  I love it!  Can't wait to try it out :)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_223832.jpg)
(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160427_224101.jpg)

Congrats.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 01, 2016, 12:45:59 AM
My oldest has a fly tying business.  Here's a pic of the Flyfisherman and my Evo 81 with one of his flies he's tying for a customer.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on May 01, 2016, 05:30:19 PM
Old friend Wenger Patriot.

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/97236662-1d01-41a2-ada1-726f30d079dd_zpslm5fiucn.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 01, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Isn't this great  8)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ff7vuuhi8qi94sl/director%201.jpg?dl=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbuxp3o01ntvk9d/director%202.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 02, 2016, 12:09:59 PM
Can't beat the reception Glen!! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 02, 2016, 12:23:00 PM
Can't beat the reception Glen!! :D

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 02, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
Spent the night with my son's Fly Fisherman....love those scales!! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: neillcurrie on May 02, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
Took a couple of pics today of two older Wenger (Master Fisherman), and a contemporary Wenger (Evo16). The pics I took show the evolution of the Wenger Scissors over the years.
First off is a pic of a Master Fisherman, the oldest of the 3 knives, which has a Bail and the "dog leg" Can Opener. It has scissors which have a separate single leaf spring. Scissors are screwed and adjustable.
Second pic is also of a Master Fisherman, still a fairly old knife as it still has the "dog leg" Can Opener. Note that the scissors have changed to the modern "integrated spring" version. However, these scissors do not have the serrations along the edges. I have no idea if this knife just missed the serration step in manufacturing, or whether it was a deliberate, planned, phase of production. Scissors are still screwed and adjustable.
Lastly is a pic of a modern Evo16. Now we see the modern integrated-spring scissors, along with pronounced serrations along the scissor blade edges. These scissors are now rivetted together and non-adjustable.
What do I prefer? I like the oldest scissors. They cut better for everything I use them for, and I think they look cool. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 02, 2016, 03:55:17 PM
Good post!!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 02, 2016, 06:41:42 PM
+1 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: yud on May 02, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Last new Wenger.

(http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u481/Kc8yud/image_zps5xs2xdbp.jpeg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 03, 2016, 12:28:01 AM
 :drool: :drool: Yud that Evo looks awesome!!  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 03, 2016, 12:35:06 AM
Two oldies that I applied the Hobie restoration process to just a few minutes ago.  I can't get over how well they shined up....it's like having brand new Wengers!  My son's Fly Fisherman had a scratched main blade from some slip ups on a stone by a prior owner.  Now that blade shines up like my Highlander!  It's a lot of fun cleaning these guys up and seeing the beauty beneath.  Now for that 85mm Evo.....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 03, 2016, 12:39:26 AM
Those look great!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: yud on May 03, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
:drool: :drool: Yud that Evo looks awesome!!  :drool: :drool:

They do have a nice look, don't they.  Pretty sure this is my only evo.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on May 03, 2016, 01:53:16 AM
I love Wenger

Wenger & CiE
First Gen. Screw Driver
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on May 03, 2016, 01:58:13 AM
My Wenger Tahara Collection thus far
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 03, 2016, 02:54:09 AM
Thanks Robert!! :cheers:

Those look great!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 03, 2016, 12:48:29 PM
My only Evo at the moment :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 03, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
My only Evo at the moment :D

Hoping that will change very soon! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 03, 2016, 09:08:15 PM
I hear that buddy!! :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 05, 2016, 01:34:11 AM
Got these this week. Nice to just happen upon them. I was looking for the BlancPain in the past and never manage to get one. Of note is the screws are stainless where most EKA models use brass, and there is no T&T so one misses out on the special fine tweezers of the Minathor. The box is very nice with the inset in the bottom of the box to hold the knife in position once the lid is on.

The Green smooth alox is new to me with the Dynasty series crest. only saw the blue one before, but i saw while i was a way green has appeared.

Sorry for the crappy phone pic, best i can do right now.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 05, 2016, 07:48:14 AM
Very nice ICFT! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 05, 2016, 05:40:38 PM
+1 :tu: :tu:
Very nice ICFT! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 05, 2016, 05:47:52 PM
+1 :tu: :tu:
Very nice ICFT! :cheers:

+10  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 14, 2016, 11:21:02 PM
Mike Horn Duo

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 15, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twiliter on May 15, 2016, 02:39:55 PM
Mike Horn Duo

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)

Nice ones SG!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on May 15, 2016, 04:25:39 PM
Had a nice night last night after a week of rain.   Decided to sit by a fire for a couple hours.   Loving this Cigar 79!

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_215315.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_215315.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231010.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231010.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231130.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231130.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on May 15, 2016, 04:49:56 PM
Everest

(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-23_zpsdsv2phqs.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 15, 2016, 05:19:19 PM
Thanks guys!!!! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: parman53 on May 16, 2016, 01:56:29 AM
Mike Horn Duo

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)

What are these, special editions??
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 16, 2016, 03:12:26 AM
Mike Horn Duo

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Mike%20Horn%20Duo_zpsiakmv8vc.jpg)

What are these, special editions??

The Ranger was introduced in 2009 and the EVO 17 in 2011. Both had a limited runs.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Mike+Horn+Ranger
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+17 (Variation 1)

Pretty scarce these days....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 16, 2016, 12:40:11 PM
Great pics!!  I can taste that cigar now! :tu: :tu:

Had a nice night last night after a week of rain.   Decided to sit by a fire for a couple hours.   Loving this Cigar 79!

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_215315.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_215315.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_220531.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231010.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231010.jpg.html)

(http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/smcclown/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231130.jpg) (http://s441.photobucket.com/user/smcclown/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160514_231130.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on May 16, 2016, 02:46:54 PM
Thanks Barry.  That Hoyo was quite good.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 16, 2016, 03:55:30 PM
Thanks Barry.  That Hoyo was quite good.

 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:  Glad to see that Wenger getting used!!!!  Hoyos are exceptional cigars!!! I may have to drag one out of the humidor later!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 16, 2016, 04:06:34 PM
Hello everybody
I'm new here. although I'm following secret for years, I have now logged.
my love are Wenger pocket knife.
when I found out how to set images, I show you my collection
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zoidberg on May 16, 2016, 04:29:27 PM
Welcome to the forum chregu.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 16, 2016, 04:45:01 PM
Army Knife
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: captain spaulding on May 16, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Army Knife

Excellent knives!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 16, 2016, 05:42:30 PM
more army knife.
civil, special blademarks, all of wenger
and my own not wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 16, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
Welcome aboard Chregu and beautiful collection! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: alexTOOL on May 17, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
A little of love   :gimme:

Mail today:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2cerz4p.jpg)

First time I see a dark blue Wenger  :ahhh

(http://i65.tinypic.com/15ps5k7.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on May 17, 2016, 06:35:10 PM
Very nice! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gareth on May 17, 2016, 07:29:30 PM
I love that dark blue.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 17, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
I love that dark blue.

The Wenger blue is very nice!!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:33:16 PM
Hello
more photos my collection
wenger farmers knife
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:41:56 PM

more photos my collection
wenger officer knife / Army knife
all in  Standart Model 9.3cm. not yet complete, missing pieces in 8.3cm

all different Blademarks I know, wenger has ever used
all ??????
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:43:29 PM
special models
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:46:17 PM
a few others
bottom left, a super rare knife coutellerie suisse
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:48:18 PM
Table knife with different Blademarks
Razors, wenger Lucullus
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 17, 2016, 08:59:38 PM
so that almost all of my wenger knife.
I really do not collect pocket knives, :D  :D  :D but ethnological knives and daggers.
anyway, my goal: to have the development of the officer knife all blade Marks.
I'm looking for collectors who possess exceptional (rare) Blade Marks of Wenger (Coutellerie Suisse)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 18, 2016, 01:38:51 PM
so that almost all of my wenger knife.
I really do not collect pocket knives, :D  :D  :D but ethnological knives and daggers.
anyway, my goal: to have the development of the officer knife all blade Marks.
I'm looking for collectors who possess exceptional (rare) Blade Marks of Wenger (Coutellerie Suisse)
Really nice collection!  :salute:

 :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Stefan on May 19, 2016, 01:48:52 AM
I have few Wenger models: highlander, traveller and backpacker 12 (I think that is the name). Also esquire and nail clipper (my wife).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MWDP on May 20, 2016, 12:27:59 AM
Minathor:

(http://i.imgur.com/U8Oa8yM.jpg)

Laser with scissors:

(http://i.imgur.com/TOZl24r.jpg)

Laser without scissors:

(http://i.imgur.com/FBCwqhR.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 20, 2016, 01:37:47 AM
Awesome!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 20, 2016, 02:32:40 AM
+1....I love them!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on May 20, 2016, 02:40:42 AM
Just arrived:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160520/4d0555c3f80e125dc52fe9577cde4c00.jpg)

Titanium scales
and a pushbutton liner lock like on the 130mms
and a bit driver
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on May 20, 2016, 04:37:09 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on May 20, 2016, 04:50:00 AM
:sa: that is beautiful!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 20, 2016, 05:39:54 AM
:sa: that is beautiful!

 :cheers:  +1!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on May 20, 2016, 05:43:40 AM
Just arrived:

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160520/4d0555c3f80e125dc52fe9577cde4c00.jpg)

Titanium scales
and a pushbutton liner lock like on the 130mms
and a bit driver

Really cool!!!    :cheers:   I'll get one someday, maybe.   
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 20, 2016, 08:28:23 PM
I'm with Robert....awesome knife!  They are on sale at Swiss Knife Shop, but still waaaay beyond what the wife would allow :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on May 20, 2016, 10:44:55 PM
There is also a model with an opener layer (l have that on order). Were there any others?
Must have cost them a bunch to gear up a line to work titanium and make these knives.
You'd think they would have made more models with these scales.
An S557 with the bit driver and these scales and linerlock would totally rock!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: alexTOOL on May 23, 2016, 10:05:20 PM
Serrated black beauty arrived today:  :drool:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/1gqhwm.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2uenz3k.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/wi2aeo.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on May 24, 2016, 12:07:38 AM


Wenger Soft Touch? Evo knife with clip point, and serrated scissors

Are these rare? I got it in a grab bag, it wasn't the knife I was after.
What were you after, then?


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A red Alox advertising knife for Terex GM, the original "Euc".

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/trucks-and-heavy-equipment/highway-side-classic-1973-terex-titan-33-19-the-worlds-biggest-truck/

They also manufacture cranes, I have a few American lattice boom crawler cranes which Terex eventually bought out
Terex had its main crane manufacturing factory in my town.


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Ironically, I just found one of those in antique shop just the other day


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on May 24, 2016, 03:54:54 AM
a few others
bottom left, a super rare knife coutellerie suisse

Some great looking items!

Welcome aboard.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on May 29, 2016, 08:06:26 PM
Hello ColoSwiss

Thank you very much.
are gathering a few years
 :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: 7.5mas on June 01, 2016, 03:16:01 AM
I only have 1 Wenger , an L.L. Bean Outdoorsman got it about 20 years ago , it gets pocket time along with my other knives . gotta admit I have been eyeballing up a few Evo's lately .....


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jerseydevil on June 01, 2016, 03:32:16 AM
Very nice. :tu: I see it has the same inline flat Phillips as my LL Bean Swiss Sportsman.

Now, enough SAK pics. Get to the firearms thread and post pics of your MAS36, 49, and/or 49/56 as befitting your screen name..... ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on June 01, 2016, 12:44:01 PM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: moonweasel on June 01, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)
I really do have to get me one of these.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on June 01, 2016, 03:02:42 PM
Army Knife
Holy cow! How did you get ahold of the original soldiers knife


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 01, 2016, 03:10:13 PM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)
I really do have to get me one of these.

You should, they are awesome!!!!!  :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: moonweasel on June 09, 2016, 10:44:42 AM
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/travex/forums/wenger-24_zpscng7fp0g.jpg)
I really do have to get me one of these.

You should, they are awesome!!!!!  :2tu:
It would fit in well with these guys.
(http://i.imgur.com/HBmYALWm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/HBmYALW)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 09, 2016, 11:58:48 AM
A few of my Wengers.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_2239small_zpsa476bf5b.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_2239small_zpsa476bf5b.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_2238small_zps80277626.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_2238small_zps80277626.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 09, 2016, 12:13:15 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_0716small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_0716small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 09, 2016, 12:34:47 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3606small_zps899785d5.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3606small_zps899785d5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 09, 2016, 01:11:48 PM
Nice display Chako! :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 09, 2016, 01:12:50 PM
My Highlander....carrying over Wenger Wednesday another day!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on June 09, 2016, 03:25:24 PM
Now I store my wenger giant in such box
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 09, 2016, 07:00:58 PM
Favorite Wenger riding in the pocket today

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01392_zpsxjloih7z.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01384_zpswunsscuy.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01381_zps6xowuqnx.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 10, 2016, 01:26:06 AM
Nice group Peacent!  Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu:  What model is that Evo?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 10, 2016, 06:19:04 PM
Nice group Peacent!  Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu:  What model is that Evo?

Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR.  :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)

I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)

And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)

And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on June 10, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
Nice group Peacent!  Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu:  What model is that Evo?

Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR.  :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)

I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)

And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)

And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possibly


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 10, 2016, 08:36:51 PM
Nice group Peacent!  Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu:  What model is that Evo?

Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR.  :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)

I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)

And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)

And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possibly

Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

I think it's not...lacks phillips and wrench

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01297_zpstvid3xd2.jpg)

this is my only other wenger

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13133307_1067805476614631_8310796593909841691_n_zpsuk2vxkui.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/12524171_1067805569947955_2478500346547664841_n_zpspg9gtneu.jpg)

Both good friends!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/13133314_1067805656614613_6853759918500691374_n_zps9btd8pyk.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 10, 2016, 09:58:51 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ReamerPunch on June 11, 2016, 01:31:52 AM
Nice group Peacent!  Love that Vice Grip tool by the way :tu: :tu:  What model is that Evo?

Vice Grip is the old, discontinued and excellent Schrade 5WR.  :tu:
Spectacular tool, strong, tough, reliable, pretty compact and sexy looking

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01406_zpskprlgfvr.jpg)

I never knew what model this Wenger was, and still don't. I just know I like it a lot

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01402_zpsqhw1hajd.jpg)

And this combo (Vise Grips + Wenger) is becoming my favorite and most versatile carry up to this day.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01403_zpsxrdawpbt.jpg)

And I've tried hundreds of combos, literally, for years and years, so that's not just saying.

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01400_zpsjsvfcyiw.jpg)
Looks to be an S557 toolchest, possibly

Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

I think it's not...lacks phillips and wrench

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM01297_zpstvid3xd2.jpg)





Wenger Evo Security 52 (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+S52)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 11, 2016, 01:55:41 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3013small_zps58d3daad.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3013small_zps58d3daad.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 11, 2016, 03:04:33 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg.html)

Some very nice pieces!   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 11, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3041small_zps7a37c708.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3014small_zps89f05556.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_2978small_zpsbd2560eb.jpg.html)

Some very nice pieces!   :tu:

+100!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 11, 2016, 03:38:03 PM
I agree!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 22, 2016, 02:22:36 AM
Wenger Titanium II

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20T2_zpsrooefjcp.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on June 22, 2016, 02:55:12 AM
 8) :tool: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 22, 2016, 03:01:37 AM
8) :tool: :cheers:

 :salute:   :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 23, 2016, 01:30:12 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu:
Wenger Titanium II

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20T2_zpsrooefjcp.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 24, 2016, 11:25:55 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1494small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1494small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1493small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1493small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1491small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1491small-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 24, 2016, 11:26:29 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1490small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1490small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1489small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1489small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1488small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1488small-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 24, 2016, 11:27:50 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1485small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1485small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1426small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1426small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1408small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1408small-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 24, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1355small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1355small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1354small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1354small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1353small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1353small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1350small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1350small-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 24, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
Nice collection Chako!! :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on June 26, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have)  :whistle: 

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 26, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have)  :whistle:

 :rofl:   :cheers:  Quite the score my friend!  :D  :salute:

You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on June 26, 2016, 05:25:23 PM
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have)  :whistle:

 :rofl:   :cheers:  Quite the score my friend!  :D  :salute:

You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)
:whistle:
I added that term to SAKwiki as it deserves to (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Bantam):
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 26, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:

It will probably clear up some of the confusion we generate here.   :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 26, 2016, 08:36:01 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1500small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1500small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1496small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1496small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1497small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1497small-1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 26, 2016, 08:38:14 PM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1432small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1432small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1422small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1422small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1423small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1423small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1424small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1424small-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 27, 2016, 02:05:28 AM
It is Wenger Time!

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1283small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1283small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1278small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1278small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/SAM_1279small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/SAM_1279small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 27, 2016, 02:06:53 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4502small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4502small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4499small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4499small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4500small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4500small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 27, 2016, 02:07:40 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4505small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4505small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4506small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4506small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4507small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4507small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4508small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4508small.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 27, 2016, 02:13:31 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_4106small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_4106small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_2830small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_2830small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/IMG_2263small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/IMG_2263small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 27, 2016, 01:28:24 PM
A few more photos.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: kari_sak on June 27, 2016, 02:01:49 PM
I've noticed i have the extremely rare Wenger "Beer Waiter" on my side xD (It's even more rare than the Vic one others have)  :whistle:

 :rofl:   :cheers:  Quite the score my friend!  :D  :salute:

You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)

I have one of those. It is my only Wenger.  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 28, 2016, 12:34:10 AM
A few more photos.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3818small_zps3c3baefd.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_3547small_zps5426f753.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo001/IMG_2873small_zps7eed08b4.jpg.html)

Beautiful way of showing that brown Macao.   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 28, 2016, 12:36:19 AM
A duplicate post, but fits here as well.

A rare Wenger EvoWood 11 Junior, with blunt blade.

First one I've seen.



Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on June 28, 2016, 01:07:24 AM
A duplicate post, but fits here as well.

A rare Wenger EvoWood 11 Junior, with blunt blade.

First one I've seen.

 :o :o   :drool: :drool: Wow!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 28, 2016, 01:14:11 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3054small_zps9919cbc4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3054small_zps9919cbc4.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3062small_zps3468cad5.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3062small_zps3468cad5.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3049small_zps11bc5666.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3049small_zps11bc5666.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 28, 2016, 01:16:01 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3065small_zps97a8fa22.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3065small_zps97a8fa22.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3067small_zps2cba9fd9.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3067small_zps2cba9fd9.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3075small_zps50e9cff9.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3075small_zps50e9cff9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 28, 2016, 01:17:01 AM
Here is something you do not see all that often. A Wenger Salesman sample kit.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_3073small_zps40c785d7.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_3073small_zps40c785d7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 28, 2016, 01:24:01 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_0716small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_0716small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_0654small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_0654small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/IMG_0653small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Album%202/IMG_0653small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 28, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
Gorgeous collection Chako!! :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on June 28, 2016, 01:32:32 PM
Thank you.  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mick82 on June 28, 2016, 06:59:11 PM
Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:

I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.

What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before

Thanks in advance for the help

   
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on June 28, 2016, 08:17:05 PM
Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:

I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.

What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before

Thanks in advance for the help

 
Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mick82 on June 29, 2016, 01:02:00 PM
Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:

I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.

What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before

Thanks in advance for the help

 
Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

Below you can check the pictures of the knife

It seems in NIB conditions, it comes from a collection, never used

Do you have idea about the real value ? the seller is asking 150 € for it...

Thanks in advance   
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on June 29, 2016, 01:12:51 PM
Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right forum section or not, but I try:

I have found a Wenger tool chest plus, NIB.

What's the real value of this knife ? I want to make my offer to the seller, but I want to be sure about the real value before

Thanks in advance for the help

 
Any chance at a link or pictures of the knife in question?


Sent from my outdated communication device using an obsolete application

Below you can check the pictures of the knife

It seems in NIB conditions, it comes from a collection, never used

Do you have idea about the real value ? the seller is asking 150 € for it...

Thanks in advance

A similar model, a WENGER MATTERHORN PLUS is actually for sale CHF 100 / 92 €... So I think this Tool Chest Plus is expensive...

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/r3008a-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 01, 2016, 02:43:03 AM
SteveC and I were talking about these earlier and I found the old pics and tried (unsuccessfully I think) to fix them.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/wenger%20Scouts%202A-1_zpspsxy0p3p.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/etch2_zpsfujbpn8k.jpg)

Edit: I attached a better shot of the scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 01, 2016, 02:57:05 AM
SteveC and I were talking about these earlier and I found the old pics and tried (unsuccessfully I think) to fix them.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/wenger%20Scouts%202A-1_zpspsxy0p3p.jpg)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/etch2_zpsfujbpn8k.jpg)

I love Wengers-BSA knives, particulary the Forester / S17 in BSA version, very hard to find now...

I'm always looking for Wengers "Scouts of Canada" but I think it's impossible ...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 01, 2016, 05:11:20 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1360small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1360small.jpg.html)

 :pok:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 01, 2016, 05:13:04 AM



Yes ! this one and others 85 mm !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 01, 2016, 06:01:22 AM
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wengers had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: maxxis on July 01, 2016, 06:04:41 AM
Hello
Do you know this one?

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 01, 2016, 06:05:24 AM
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.

Wonderfull ! I never found any Wenger of Canadian boy scouts... I will become crazy !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 01, 2016, 06:11:49 AM
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.

Wonderfull ! I never found any Wenger of Canadian boy scouts... I will become crazy !

I got online and found Canadian Scout shops. Generally they would ship to the US. Don't know about Europe. Also don't know if they're still offering Wengers or have gone to Victorinox.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 01, 2016, 06:13:33 AM
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.

Wonderfull ! I never found any Wenger of Canadian boy scouts... I will become crazy !

Thanks ! If you have links, I will contact a friend in Montreal !

I got online and found Canadian Scout shops. Generally they would ship to the US. Don't know about Europe. Also don't know if they're still offering Wengers or have gone to Victorinox.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 01, 2016, 06:19:14 AM
Here's an assortment of Canadian Boy Scout SAKs. They at one time went with Victorinox (the Recruit on the right), before switching over to Wenger. The first Wenger had green handles - four 85mms and an 65mm Esquire. Don't have a date for the switch to red. Five red-handled knives were offered. Four were Evos with locks; one was a flat-side Apprentice. There was also a black 120mm Mountainer (shown by Chako), and a black 85mm for the Canadian Scouts Centennial in 2007. There may be others, but that's the info I have.

Awesome!!!  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 01, 2016, 06:26:14 AM
Hello
Do you know this one?

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)

It's an Evo64 with large clip point blade but not referenced... Probably one of the last knives that Wenger made with old stocks of blades and tools... I found the same in evowood version directly at the shop of the factory during 1st quarter 2014. Without box, without reference, without nothing !
I suppose it does exist other Wenger-franken-knives like this model...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 01, 2016, 06:32:05 AM
Hello
Do you know this one?

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)

Interesting find!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 01, 2016, 06:53:20 PM
Zermatt

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Zermatt_zpspngcueue.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 02, 2016, 05:13:06 AM
Robert, she's a beauty!!    :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu: :tu:  How could anyone top a name like Zermatt!! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 02, 2016, 06:59:12 AM
Robert, she's a beauty!!    :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu: :tu:  How could anyone top a name like Zermatt!!

Thanks Barry, it's a real keeper I think! :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 02, 2016, 08:04:39 AM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 02, 2016, 08:55:13 AM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D

Its number is 1 21 13. It may have been called Classic 21, but that's only a guess. A lot of Wengers were called Classic plus the middle number in Europe at one time.

Nice knife!   :tu:

SAKguy came up with a similar phillips version recently.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,67023.msg1290979.html#msg1290979
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 02, 2016, 02:55:40 PM
Thanks and really nice snag yourself Cali!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 02, 2016, 11:46:13 PM
ColoSwiss & SAK Guy - THANKS GUYS  :cheers: -  You two always kindly answer and reply to everyone's posts.   8) IMPO very cool to see and the Info is very much Appreciated.  :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 03, 2016, 12:44:46 AM
ColoSwiss & SAK Guy - THANKS GUYS  :cheers: -  You two always kindly answer and reply to everyone's posts.   8) IMPO very cool to see and the Info is very much Appreciated.  :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :2tu:

You're welcome Cali, but CS did all the heavy lifting.  :cheers: :cheers:  I just happened to pull that one outta the pile!!  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on July 03, 2016, 03:47:58 AM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D


I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.

before and after a little TLC.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 03, 2016, 04:07:30 AM
A most excellent job!!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: austin83 on July 03, 2016, 04:24:16 AM
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young.  I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox.  I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 03, 2016, 04:31:30 AM
PTRSAK - awesome! , thanks for reply and posting pics!  8)  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 03, 2016, 06:37:40 AM
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young.  I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.

Get a Vic Delemont and live the dream!!!  :cheers:

These are EVO 23's, the Vic Delemont on the left has the reg Vic can opener.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 03, 2016, 07:08:25 AM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D


I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.

before and after a little TLC.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)

My god !!!

I never saw a Wenger of 60's or 70's (your is before 1972) with aluminium scales...

I suppose the layers brass saparators are "home made" ?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on July 03, 2016, 01:34:48 PM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D


I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.

before and after a little TLC.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)

My god !!!

I never saw a Wenger of 60's or 70's (your is before 1972) with aluminium scales...

I suppose the layers brass saparators are "home made" ?

Here is a link to the thread detailing the rebuild.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,38787

The aluminium scales were handmade 20+ years ago after I lost or broke the originals.
The brass liners were handmade during the rebuild.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 03, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
That Zermatt is Great!!! nice snag  :cheers:

I got this one today, any Info/Help on info would be appreciated!!  :tu:
( i couldn't find it on SAKwiki ? )  :tu:

Wenger
front tools:
1 - screwdriver/cap lifter & can opener
2 - fish scaler
3 - two sided metal file/metal saw combo
4 - wood saw
5 - scissors
6 - main blade & nail file/cleaner

back tools:
1 - awl
2 - corkscrew - with coils too small to fit my VICTORINOX mini screwdriver   :td: :D


I have an early version of that knife. It was my first SAK from over 40 years ago.

before and after a little TLC.

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/P6140949_zps873b11f7.jpg)

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/Final_A_zps6be2143f.jpg)

My god !!!

I never saw a Wenger of 60's or 70's (your is before 1972) with aluminium scales...

I suppose the layers brass saparators are "home made" ?

Here is a link to the thread detailing the rebuild.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,38787

The aluminium scales were handmade 20+ years ago after I lost or broke the originals.
The brass liners were handmade during the rebuild.

I love this work !

My old "knife of farmer/fisher" Wenger probably from 20's or 30's

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0010.jpg)

Disasembly...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0110.jpg)



(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0210.jpg)


Cleaning...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0310.jpg)


After few hours...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0410.jpg)


(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0510.jpg)


Cleaned !
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0710.jpg)


Separators are tempered (in water) to obtain original blue color...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0810.jpg)



Stabilization and rust protection of all steel parts...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0610.jpg)



Reassembly with new steel rivets...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/0910.jpg)


Polishing... And it's finish !

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/1310.jpg)


Compare before and after...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/compar10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 03, 2016, 02:27:39 PM
Excellent job!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: firiki on July 03, 2016, 02:30:21 PM
Indeed! :hatsoff: to both gentlemen.

I wish they'd still make this kind of knives!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 03, 2016, 02:44:34 PM
Another restautation : this little wenger between 1916/1919...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t10.jpg)


I think it's a model 504 A +, found in an old catalog Wenger between 1908/1922...

A = Aluminium

+ = cross shield

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t11.jpg)

For information, it seems to be an ancestor of the  "Cascade".

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1447)


Disasembly :

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t12.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t13.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t15.jpg)


After a good cleaning, You can see how I make new rivets, nothing is secret :

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t16.jpg)



Reassembly layer by layer...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t17.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t18.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t19.jpg)

The little blade was broken, but I found a new one on a Solingen knife and with lot of chance, it was exactly the same !


And this is the final result :

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t22.jpg)

After polishing...

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/12/24/75/57/sans_t23.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on July 04, 2016, 01:30:12 AM
Some very nice work!   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 05, 2016, 05:38:58 AM
Gorgeous!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
Some very nice work!   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 05, 2016, 05:41:05 AM
What a pair of beauties!!   :drool: :drool:
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young.  I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.

Get a Vic Delemont and live the dream!!!  :cheers:

These are EVO 23's, the Vic Delemont on the left has the reg Vic can opener.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 05, 2016, 08:19:57 AM
What a pair of beauties!!   :drool: :drool:
My first SAK was a Wenger when I was very young.  I loved it, but it's pretty low quality compared to a Victorinox. I'd carry one if the can opener was like the Vic.

Get a Vic Delemont and live the dream!!!  :cheers:

These are EVO 23's, the Vic Delemont on the left has the reg Vic can opener.

Thanks Barry!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: PTRSAK on July 06, 2016, 08:47:52 AM
Love seeing the resto work. I like doing mods but get more satisfaction out of some of the necro rebuilds I have done.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on July 07, 2016, 12:23:47 AM
Here are a few Wenger knives that I have not seen many of:
(1/2)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pile Driver on July 07, 2016, 12:24:20 AM
(2/2)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 07, 2016, 02:07:50 AM
 :sa: :sa:  Shock and AWESOME!!!!!!  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 07, 2016, 01:41:58 PM
+1!!!! :drool: :drool: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on July 08, 2016, 07:04:08 PM
Decided to take a couple of snaps of my Realtree collections
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on July 08, 2016, 07:12:54 PM
Couple more...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on July 08, 2016, 07:23:08 PM
...and finally

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 08, 2016, 07:29:12 PM
Super collection Tosh!!!!!! Always happy to see pics!!!!!!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 08, 2016, 07:33:08 PM
Rangers are true the best of large swiss army knives !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 08, 2016, 08:12:46 PM
Beautiful collection! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 08, 2016, 09:15:50 PM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th 6th knife in the Precise era, second 4th in the Backpacker series.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: twiliter on July 08, 2016, 09:41:45 PM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th knife in the Precise era, second in the Backpacker series.

Thanks for that SG, now I'm wanting to go fishing again.  :ahhh

Seriously nice unit there.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 08, 2016, 09:58:24 PM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th knife in the Precise era, second in the Backpacker series.

Thanks for that SG, now I'm wanting to go fishing again.  :ahhh

Seriously nice unit there.  :cheers:

Thanks T!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on July 08, 2016, 11:11:21 PM
Hello
Do you know this one?

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=97091771DNJFyHbaLSL1500.jpg)

Just found it quite by chance and grabbed myself a copy too!  :cheers:
https://www.amazon.de/Schweizer-Messer-Wenger-Evolution-565/dp/B01BU54GN0/ref=sr_1_148?ie=UTF8&qid=1468010322&sr=8-148&keywords=wenger+taschenmesser
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 09, 2016, 12:37:09 AM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th 6th knife in the Precise era, second 4th in the Backpacker series.

 :facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's  :tu: )  ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 09, 2016, 01:11:19 AM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th 6th knife in the Precise era, second 4th in the Backpacker series.

 :facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's  :tu: )  ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:

Precise International was the US importer in Mid/late 70's --> 80/90's. The Sierra is a model name, my other one is "The Rockies" (the largest in the series). My other two are Pathfinders which are from the Precise era with the Backpacker imprint but no etch so may not be in the Backpacker Series proper.

Here's a Catalog page from the Wiki
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 09, 2016, 01:20:53 AM
 :2tu: :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: customfabfoodie on July 09, 2016, 02:52:07 AM
Oh yes my friends, much love for Wenger....Much unconditional love indeed :tu:. I actually prefer some Wenger models over Vics. Subtle differences in design is sometimes wonderful and welcome. I love all my children the same...omg :facepalm: . I'm looking to adopt a Wenger Rangerwood 55 if anyone is looking to sell one of their children. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 09, 2016, 03:27:58 AM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th 6th knife in the Precise era, second 4th in the Backpacker series.

 :facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's  :tu: )  ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:

Precise International was the US importer in Mid/late 70's --> 80/90's. The Sierra is a model name, my other one is "The Rockies" (the largest in the series). My other two are Pathfinders which are from the Precise era with the Backpacker imprint but no etch so may not be in the Backpacker Series proper.

Here's a Catalog page from the Wiki

VERY COOL , Thanks SAK Guy :hatsoff: :2tu:
Great pics too , Thanks for posting them!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 09, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
Just arrived....Wenger Precise Backpacker - The Sierra.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Precise%20Sierra_zpskrapleaq.jpg)

My 4th 6th knife in the Precise era, second 4th in the Backpacker series.

 :facepalm: FNG Newbie Questions ALERT!!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :D
SAK Guy - what & when was the "Precise" era ?
what is "Sierra"(I live at the foot of the Sierra's  :tu: )  ? Is it just The name? or because they added something?
SORRY if I am asking common knowledge. :o :D :salute: :cheers:

Precise International was the US importer in Mid/late 70's --> 80/90's. The Sierra is a model name, my other one is "The Rockies" (the largest in the series). My other two are Pathfinders which are from the Precise era with the Backpacker imprint but no etch so may not be in the Backpacker Series proper.

Here's a Catalog page from the Wiki

VERY COOL , Thanks SAK Guy :hatsoff: :2tu:
Great pics too , Thanks for posting them!  :cheers:

You're welcome Cali!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 09, 2016, 06:13:27 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1521small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1521small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1520small-2.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1520small-2.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1494small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1494small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1463small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1463small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1462small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1462small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1461small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1461small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1460small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1460small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1458small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1458small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1453small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1453small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1452small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1452small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1447small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1447small-1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 09, 2016, 06:14:23 AM
And a few older models.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1443small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1443small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1442small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1442small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1441small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1441small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1428small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1428small.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 09, 2016, 06:15:33 AM
And a few more.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1439small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1439small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1438small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1438small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1437small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1437small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1436small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1436small-1.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Chako on July 09, 2016, 06:17:53 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1413small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1413small.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1409small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1409small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1407small-1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1407small-1.jpg.html)

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1391small.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Leather%20Projects/IMG_1391small.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: customfabfoodie on July 09, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
Beautiful collection bro! Superb examples! I love to see Wenger joy spread among our forum. Outstanding. Thank you.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on July 20, 2016, 12:49:28 PM
More love pics, celebrating Wenger Wednesday!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM02446_zpskvi73gyr.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM02432_zpsr5zpchvi.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM02440_zpshrvdjilr.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM02442_zpsuuinr9uh.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 20, 2016, 01:01:05 PM
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/wenger_bernina_504_-_01.jpg)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J02/media/com_hikashop/upload/dsc_0021.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gregozedobe on July 20, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
Where's that [LIKE] button when you need it ?   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 20, 2016, 02:35:54 PM
All good stuff guys!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on July 20, 2016, 05:32:26 PM
And the last Wengers I bought... But not yet arrived !

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13659142_1041832005863897_9161518243299536451_n.jpg?oh=23a175e24bcc215be4051147dd10d99f&oe=58241C40)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13612357_1041831969197234_9159108128856178241_n.jpg?oh=2c599d6276e9f7b4ca70083524d8ad2f&oe=582EA4FE)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13645181_1041831965863901_6992558580553934155_n.jpg?oh=2f6d58ae53620fc3ac2e20ccd11f1b45&oe=57EC9B86)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: lichan on July 20, 2016, 07:13:56 PM
More love pics, celebrating Wenger Wednesday!


(Images Removed)

What multitool is that? It has some unusual tools on it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on July 20, 2016, 07:24:45 PM
And the last Wengers I bought... But not yet arrived !

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13659142_1041832005863897_9161518243299536451_n.jpg?oh=23a175e24bcc215be4051147dd10d99f&oe=58241C40)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13612357_1041831969197234_9159108128856178241_n.jpg?oh=2c599d6276e9f7b4ca70083524d8ad2f&oe=582EA4FE)

(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13645181_1041831965863901_6992558580553934155_n.jpg?oh=2f6d58ae53620fc3ac2e20ccd11f1b45&oe=57EC9B86)

 :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 20, 2016, 08:38:42 PM
+1!!! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 07, 2016, 09:40:32 PM
Wenger Racers.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 07, 2016, 09:50:49 PM
Wenger Racers.

Those are awesome Karl!!!!!!  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 07, 2016, 11:03:29 PM
I agree!!! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 08, 2016, 10:02:03 AM
Wenger Racers.
NICE , What a cool set  8)
 :cheers: Steve
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on August 08, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
Thanks all.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 12, 2016, 09:08:42 PM
Wenger Series SAKwiki page updated (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,34335.msg1325202.html#msg1325202)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 13, 2016, 06:02:42 AM
 :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 13, 2016, 05:50:34 PM
:cheers: :cheers:
Word after word, picture after picture, the wiki is still getting better and higher with the help of all !
 :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 13, 2016, 06:37:42 PM
I've had a look at the catalog page on SAKwiki, i can't access the pdf ones (both Vic and Wenger)
btw i have the pdf file for the Nature Series page if it can be uploaded to SAKwiki (i don't think i can upload a pdf there can i?)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: enki_ck on August 13, 2016, 11:26:26 PM
I've had a look at the catalog page on SAKwiki, i can't access the pdf ones (both Vic and Wenger)
btw i have the pdf file for the Nature Series page if it can be uploaded to SAKwiki (i don't think i can upload a pdf there can i?)
You have to be logged in to download/access them. Log in and try again. If you still have problems, let me know.

I'll upload the pdf you attached here later. They go in a special folder that's accessible to admins only so no maleware isn't uploaded. Only the picture galleries are open to the general public.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 13, 2016, 11:48:36 PM
You have to be logged in to download/access them. Log in and try again. If you still have problems, let me know.
Thanks!
I thought I was logged, but I wasn't  :facepalm:
Quote
I'll upload the pdf you attached here later. They go in a special folder that's accessible to admins only so no maleware isn't uploaded. Only the picture galleries are open to the general public.
That's understandable  :angel:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on August 15, 2016, 11:44:40 AM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03667_zpsn4mphggq.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on August 15, 2016, 02:38:40 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03667_zpsn4mphggq.jpg)

Nice bro!!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 15, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
 :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 11, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
Just a small note.
I'm organizing my collection and put for sale many duplicates I have.
There are many scarce Wenger models that could be interesting to collectors.
See here
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,68804.0.html
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pi-Pa on October 12, 2016, 11:21:38 AM
My small Wenger collection

(http://up.picr.de/27103307wa.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on October 12, 2016, 04:50:33 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM05099_zpsdsxdadyt.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM05113_zpsefbp9vh1.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM05096_zpslzl1qfif.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on October 13, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Three fat men )))
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on October 13, 2016, 08:53:56 PM
 :like: :like: !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Pi-Pa on October 14, 2016, 10:30:05 AM
Pocketgrip 577(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/83a2369f78815f296b79ea52c5a3a181.jpg)

Gesendet von meinem Crown mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 14, 2016, 01:59:05 PM
I've got a (post-2008, so not a rarity) Wenger Standard Issue incoming that I just bought on this forum, my '07 Vic Soldier will have a brother! The main reason I bought it is so I can carry it with a Tec P7 hanger clip, which I can't do with my Soldier, and I don't like the keyring attachments on Vic Alox SAKs, as find they dig into my hand (not such as issue on the 93mm knives, as its at an angle on them and more rounded). Will be my first Wenger!


(http://i65.tinypic.com/9jeo7t.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on October 14, 2016, 02:10:13 PM
Great stuff guys!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on October 15, 2016, 01:21:35 AM
I agree!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on October 15, 2016, 03:09:18 AM
 :mail:
These beauties just in - all BNIB
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20and%20Esquires.jpg)

Date on Standard Issue tang, typical of Wenger Standard Issue tang proof marks, is weakly stamped

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr.jpg)

I'm impressed with the Standard Issue. Other than the bail in a hollow rivet and tang proof marks it's 99% identical to a 2005 and 2007 Victorinox Soldier. I'm growing fonder of the slightly larger 65mm Esquire versus the Vic 58mm Classic SD as it has larger scissors and bigger nail file, without that much size increase. I've got a couple of the Vic Delemont Executive 81 which are identical except for the Vic logo and T&T, but they've apparently been discontinued and the only one left is the Delemont EvoWood 81. I still prefer the Rambler or other Vic with the cap lifter, wire stripper and #0 Phillips combo and wish Wenger had made one like that in 65mm.

John
(who needs to clean fingerprints off blades before photographing them)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on October 15, 2016, 03:26:21 AM
 :ahhh :ahhh Just got a BNIB Esquire!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on October 15, 2016, 03:35:41 AM
:ahhh :ahhh Just got a BNIB Esquire!!

Got a fourth one - also BNIB - some time ago. Another corporate handout, that one to employees to celebrate 75th Anniversary the company's founding. It was a bonus surprise included with a larger knife purchase.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2001.jpg)

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2002.jpg)

I take it you like the Esquire!

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on October 15, 2016, 08:47:16 AM
:ahhh :ahhh Just got a BNIB Esquire!!

Got a fourth one - also BNIB - some time ago. Another corporate handout, that one to employees to celebrate 75th Anniversary the company's founding. It was a bonus surprise included with a larger knife purchase.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2001.jpg)

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Stonecutter%2075th%20Anniv%20Wenger%20Executive%2002.jpg)

I take it you like the Esquire!

John
Promotions never looked that good!
The style of the logo gives the knife a vintage look. Love it!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on October 15, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
+1!!!  :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on October 15, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%2007.jpg)

Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%20Tang%2007.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 15, 2016, 04:09:17 PM
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%2007.jpg)

Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%20Tang%2007.jpg)

John

Hello,

It's not a standard issue !

It's a soldier knife, one of the last soldier knife made by Wenger !

At the end of 2007, Wenger has stopped production for the Swiss army due to buying of Wenger factory by Victorinox. So you will never find Wenger soldiers knives stamped "08" but you can find (more and more rarely) Wenger soldiers knives stamped "07".

See :

http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-7

This knife is now very collectible !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on October 15, 2016, 06:44:21 PM
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%2007.jpg)

Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%20Tang%2007.jpg)

John

Hello,

It's not a standard issue !

It's a soldier knife, one of the last soldier knife made by Wenger !

At the end of 2007, Wenger has stopped production for the Swiss army due to buying of Wenger factory by Victorinox. So you will never find Wenger soldiers knives stamped "08" but you can find (more and more rarely) Wenger soldiers knives stamped "07".

See :

http://www.couteaux-du-so...s-modeles-1961/variante-7 (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-7)

This knife is now very collectible !


If I understand this correctly, the "Standard Issue" Wenger are the 1961 model Wenger sold retail to the public (some may have the year stamped on the tang) and the "Soldier" are the 1961 model Wenger sold to the Swiss Army.

Thanks
John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 15, 2016, 09:51:08 PM
This one also just in a day or so ago. Don't know why I was thinking it was a Victorinox. It's a 2007 Wenger Standard Issue with no bail and solid rivet. While it's not BNIB as with the 2004, it's about 95-99%, near mint condition. Needs a little polishing on the screwdriver tip of the cap lifter. It appears that's the only thing this knife was used for.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%2007.jpg)

Typical lightly stamped date on the tang . . .

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/New%20Arrivals/Wenger%20Standard%20Issue%20Mfr%20Yr%20Tang%2007.jpg)

John

Hello,

It's not a standard issue !

It's a soldier knife, one of the last soldier knife made by Wenger !

At the end of 2007, Wenger has stopped production for the Swiss army due to buying of Wenger factory by Victorinox. So you will never find Wenger soldiers knives stamped "08" but you can find (more and more rarely) Wenger soldiers knives stamped "07".

See :

http://www.couteaux-du-so...s-modeles-1961/variante-7 (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1961/variante-7)

This knife is now very collectible !


If I understand this correctly, the "Standard Issue" Wenger are the 1961 model Wenger sold retail to the public (some may have the year stamped on the tang) and the "Soldier" are the 1961 model Wenger sold to the Swiss Army.

Thanks
John

It's a little more complicated !

In fact soldiers knives and civilian knives, of same model and same year of manufacture, have always something to distinguish them :

A civilian knife will always have something more or less if you compare it with a real soldier knife of the same year like a bail added, a blade not stamped with the year of manufacture, the Waffenkontrolle not stamped on the scales, etc...
And it's not easy to transform a civilian knife to a soldier knife : for exemple in 2007 you can find standard issue stamped "07" with eyelet and bail but... In 2007 on soldiers knives you will never find eyelet nor bail ! So do not imagine if you remove the bail a standard issue will become a soldier knife !
And there are a multitude of combinations!

Lot of people have lot of wrong or bad informations about soldiers knives, Wenger standard issue, former Victorinox pioneer, etc... But soldiers knives collectors can recognize immediately a civilian and a soldier knife... 

I'm sorry for my bad English I hope you understand what I mean !

An other sample :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/1908_civilian_knives.jpg)
these knives can't be soldiers knives because soldiers knives models 1908 have carbon steel blade and tools ! Never stainless steel blade nor tools !

Sample of the Trekker :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/one_hand_trekker.png)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Mod_2008.jpg)  (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Type_A_2008.jpg)

The Trekker is the civilian version of the model 2008 : No year stamped on the blade, no military handles...

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on October 16, 2016, 12:35:24 PM

It's a little more complicated !

In fact soldiers knives and civilian knives, of same model and same year of manufacture, have always something to distinguish them :

A civilian knife will always have something more or less if you compare it with a real soldier knife of the same year like a bail added, a blade not stamped with the year of manufacture, the Waffenkontrolle not stamped on the scales, etc...
And it's not easy to transform a civilian knife to a soldier knife : for exemple in 2007 you can find standard issue stamped "07" with eyelet and bail but... In 2007 on soldiers knives you will never find eyelet nor bail ! So do not imagine if you remove the bail a standard issue will become a soldier knife !
And there are a multitude of combinations!

Lot of people have lot of wrong or bad informations about soldiers knives, Wenger standard issue, former Victorinox pioneer, etc... But soldiers knives collectors can recognize immediately a civilian and a soldier knife... 

I'm sorry for my bad English I hope you understand what I mean !

An other sample :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/1908_civilian_knives.jpg)
these knives can't be soldiers knives because soldiers knives models 1908 have carbon steel blade and tools ! Never stainless steel blade nor tools !

Sample of the Trekker :
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/autres_couteaux/couteaux_civils/one_hand_trekker.png)

(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Mod_2008.jpg)  (http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Type_A_2008.jpg)

The Trekker is the civilian version of the model 2008 : No year stamped on the blade, no military handles...

Thanks for all the information. I have a model 2008 with Swiss Shield military scales that have no T&T, and "16" on the tang. Other than the year on the tang it looks identical to the 2008 model you show.

This goes a bit OT, but I've also got this 2005 Vic that I've presumed to be a "Soldier" as it has the Swiss Shield scales with a waffle pattern a little different from the Pioneer, no keyring, and "05" stamped on the tang. Didn't notice the waffle pattern difference until I put it next to a Pioneer; it's subtle. The blade, however, is etched with the signature of "Charles Elsener" which makes believe it was a special build in 2005 of a limited number of the 1961 model v7 for sale to collectors. I don't believe the Swiss military would issue knives with an etched signature on the blade to new enlisted soldiers.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Soldier%20Elsener%202005%2001.jpg)

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Miscellaneous/Soldier%20Elsener%202005%2002.jpg)

Thanks!

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: rivercity on October 16, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
 :like:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jcfiguet on October 16, 2016, 03:51:17 PM

Thanks for all the information. I have a model 2008 with Swiss Shield military scales that have no T&T, and "16" on the tang. Other than the year on the tang it looks identical to the 2008 model you show.

Since 2008 to 2016 all soldiers knives are te same with the tang engraved 08, 09, ... 16, etc...
Except for 2010 with :

- 1 standard run (like other 2008 models)

- 1 special run "Swisscoy"
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Type_B_2008.jpg)

- 1 special run laser engraved “Swiss Army” in German, French and Italian language
(http://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/images/photos_site/modeles/2008/Type_C_2008.jpg)


This goes a bit OT, but I've also got this 2005 Vic that I've presumed to be a "Soldier" as it has the Swiss Shield scales with a waffle pattern a little different from the Pioneer, no keyring, and "05" stamped on the tang. Didn't notice the waffle pattern difference until I put it next to a Pioneer; it's subtle. The blade, however, is etched with the signature of "Charles Elsener" which makes believe it was a special build in 2005 of a limited number of the 1961 model v7 for sale to collectors. I don't believe the Swiss military would issue knives with an etched signature on the blade to new enlisted soldiers.





Thanks!

John

This seems to be a commemorative knife, on the wiki it's indicated "In the years 2003 and 2005 some models were produced with Charles Elsener's signature etched on the main blade. The majority of these, if not all, were originally included in a package with the book A Collector's Companion."

In this case it's sure that it is not a real soldier knife but a pioneer !

On lot of aloxes (civilian or military knives) you can find subtle differences like you saw on the waffle pattern, due of tints of ink or machine adjustments or something else...
To understand these small differences, less and less visible now because of the evolution of industrial processes, you should visit the Victorinox Factory in Ibach ! On former productions lot of manual operations still exist !
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: alexTOOL on October 28, 2016, 06:29:18 PM
Wenger Cumberland (Pheasant Backpacker)

Rare 1 Wenger layer with big locking blade, small blade and corkscrew

Not perfect but...  :tu:

This thing is slim!:   :D

(http://i63.tinypic.com/ehzvuv.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2eq4f2v.jpg)

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pheasant


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on October 28, 2016, 11:16:36 PM
I like it!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on October 29, 2016, 01:12:41 AM
+1  8) :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on October 29, 2016, 08:21:52 AM
Wenger Cumberland (Pheasant Backpacker)

Rare 1 Wenger layer with big locking blade, small blade and corkscrew

Not perfect but...  :tu:

This thing is slim!:   :D

(http://i63.tinypic.com/ehzvuv.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2eq4f2v.jpg)

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Pheasant

Nice find.
Forgot about this model, followed the link to the wiki...realized I was the one to upload there the Cumberland picture and info.... :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on November 06, 2016, 04:53:13 PM
Yesterday's Carry . . . Evolution S101

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/j_a_lind/Other/Knives/SAK/Discontinued%20Challenge/Wenger%20Evolution%20S101.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on November 06, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
My favorite Wenger is this S17,
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 06, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
Great pics John and Ronald! 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on November 08, 2016, 06:01:19 PM
Great pics John and Ronald!
Thanks Barry  :cheers:

With my camera being a little broken, I'm reposting some older pics which appeared in other threads
Some more pics of my Wenger S17.:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on November 08, 2016, 06:43:19 PM
I love the last picture!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 22, 2016, 09:30:07 AM
Here's a rather old (probably 1940s-1950s from the shape of the shield), rather rare Wenger with imitation tortoise shell handles. While small tortoise shell knives show up fairly regularly, full size ones are extremely uncommon.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on November 22, 2016, 08:51:47 PM
Here's a rather old (probably 1940s-1950s from the shape of the shield), rather rare Wenger with imitation tortoise shell handles. While small tortoise shell knives show up fairly regularly, full size ones are extremely uncommon.
Nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on November 22, 2016, 10:35:40 PM
my favorite

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03691_zpssr09upjh.jpg)
the most beautiful of my collection too!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03679_zpsnk6yftbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on December 04, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
Wenger got LOTS of love from me the past few days. Just looted this lot. Including a complete Set of Patagonian WPER.

(https://abload.de/img/whl002jasob.jpg)

(https://abload.de/img/whl0035asfm.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: toysntools on December 04, 2016, 12:19:05 PM
Love my Wengers. In some ways more than my Vics. Was literally sad when i heard Vic bought them out and would be melded into a Victorinox line. That said, Vics knives are topnotch quality and i understand why people may prefer them over a Wenger counterpart.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on December 04, 2016, 12:19:56 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM06147_zpsoztr3ftf.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on December 05, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
The Wenger Metal-50 Traveler is extremely lovable!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 06, 2016, 02:42:30 AM
Some VERY nice scores!   :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on December 06, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
The Wenger Metal-50 Traveler is extremely lovable!
SURE IS ........ Nice knife , Ron!  8)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 07, 2016, 02:44:19 AM
Cleaned up Tradesman ready for Wenger Wednesday!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on December 07, 2016, 02:58:18 AM
Great shots of some great looking Wengers guys :like: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on December 07, 2016, 06:11:50 AM
Cleaned up Tradesman ready for Wenger Wednesday!

Argh! A treasure indeed. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on December 07, 2016, 06:23:04 AM
Such beautiful stuff every time I come over to this thread!! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on December 07, 2016, 06:25:50 AM
Cleaned up Tradesman ready for Wenger Wednesday!

NICE ONE , Barry  8) :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 07, 2016, 02:18:18 PM
 :cheers: Thanks guys!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 07, 2016, 03:23:59 PM
A little bit of 2 layer goodness.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161207/f790b8733d721f5a8cdf421e38a954bc.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 07, 2016, 08:12:14 PM
Nice one Folder!!  There's nothing this side of a Vic Sportsman that carries as sweetly as a 2 layer Wenger.  Like that box too!! :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 07, 2016, 08:49:51 PM
Thank you Barry. I just bought it recently and the original box being included won me over.


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on December 07, 2016, 10:23:14 PM
Such beautiful stuff every time I come over to this thread!! :cheers:

+1 very nice stuff in this thread always :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on December 07, 2016, 10:23:39 PM
New page banana man dance

:nanadance:       :nanadance:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on December 07, 2016, 10:24:05 PM
Evogrip 18 today :dd:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5478/30643505124_62f5603150_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NFRYtf)20161207_085637 (https://flic.kr/p/NFRYtf) by Poncho 65 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/148903443@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Roc on December 07, 2016, 11:44:00 PM
Evogrip 18 today :dd:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5478/30643505124_62f5603150_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NFRYtf)20161207_085637 (https://flic.kr/p/NFRYtf) by Poncho 65 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/148903443@N02/), on Flickr

This one seems to be very popular. What about it does everyone like?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 08, 2016, 09:13:35 PM
For  me, it's got probably pretty close to perfect combo of tools coupled in a nice carrying package.  The yellow scales really look sharp in person, and the Evogrip finish really does do what it claims, providing a solid grip on the scales.  About the only downside I've found  on it is the main blade lock tends to get in the way of getting the scissors out, but once you get the hang of it, it's a breeze. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on December 08, 2016, 09:35:29 PM
Although I prefer the S17 (I prefer a corkscrew over back philips) The 18 8or better even the S18) sports that nice yellow scales. The toolset resembles roughle the one of the vic huntsman. (except for the small blade that is and the cs/back phil. ofc).

I personally love the Wenger Lock blade/S models a lot.

(http://abload.de/img/whl0035asfm.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Roc on December 08, 2016, 10:08:38 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. I just received an EVO 17 in the mail today from evilbay. For $12 I can't complain. Haven't had much time to play with it yet as it's getting a good soak. I did notice the lock makes it a bit difficult to get to the scissors. What wasn't shown in the pics was a couple good chips on the toothpick/tweezers end. Sellers pic.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Daark on December 08, 2016, 10:24:15 PM
The lock definately makes it trickier to open the scissors, compared to the non-lock version.
It doesn't make it impossible though and with a bit of getting used to it, it does not matter at all anymore.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on December 08, 2016, 11:39:00 PM
The lock definately makes it trickier to open the scissors, compared to the non-lock version.
It doesn't make it impossible though and with a bit of getting used to it, it does not matter at all anymore.
Yes, that's my experience too. (Wenger S17)

BTW This one has a corkscrew. It is about 15 years old and has had lots of carry. But there's hardly a ding to be seen! Did I find a difference between Victorinox and Wenger, that was hitherto unknown? Please check!

PS Dings are explained in sergemaster's "My Case Against The Corkscrew..." (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,69710.0.html)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 09, 2016, 12:26:26 AM
Ronald I  :like: that knife!!  :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on December 09, 2016, 12:37:01 AM
 :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on December 17, 2016, 06:37:02 PM
Old Wenger SI, with its brand new bail  :angel:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 17, 2016, 08:12:06 PM
 :like:  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on December 17, 2016, 09:15:18 PM
So glad to see this thread still going strong.

I absolutely adore Wenger. Their innovation and guts to bring radical ideas and designs to a somewhat stale market has left a huge hole. Their disappearance which I very much doubt we will ever see the likes of again is nothing short of tragic.

An amazing era, but which sadly we didn't fully realise at the time.

Hindsight is a wonderful gift....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 17, 2016, 11:23:45 PM
 :like: Very well said!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: 7.5mas on December 19, 2016, 12:26:36 AM
I only have one Wenger, an Outdoorsman I bought @ LL Bean in the early 90's .
It gets it's turn in the rotation like most of my knives.   
Been thinking about a new Evo , just haven't decided which one.


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 19, 2016, 02:54:45 PM
 :like:  :like: Great looking Outdoorsman 7.5!  As far as Evo's go, it's hard to beat either a 17 or 18.  Great all around tool selection!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on December 20, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
Are kitchen knives SAKs?
Not really, I know... but I love these Wengers. They're so sharp you can cut yourself just by looking at them the wrong way.
(http://i.imgur.com/BRukuyO.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Danjo on December 21, 2016, 06:20:15 PM
My first SAK was a Wenger I bought from K-Mart back in 1985. I believe it was the Commander, or something very similar to it. I loved it and had it for a couple of years. The blade tip broke when I was, stupidly, prying something with it, but overall I enjoyed it. I bought another Wenger from K-Mart a couple of years later (around 1987), and have no idea what became of it. Like I said, I liked them. Then, around 1989, my brother gave me a Spartan by Victorinox. I felt that it was a better knife. The springs were stronger, and it felt more solid to me overall. I've never looked back. I still have one Wenger (EVO 63) just to have one in my collection, but I prefer Vics in terms of quality and performance.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on December 21, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
This Wenger is my latest, and i like it the most i think  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Danjo on December 23, 2016, 07:15:14 AM
Deedee, I would love one of those original soldiers by either company. Nice acquisition!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on December 23, 2016, 09:42:58 AM
Thanks Danjo, I was looking for one of these for about 2 years. I'm glad that i have found one in excellent condition. I wish you to find one for a good price.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on January 08, 2017, 02:43:57 AM
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/343/31795857150_447eb46c12_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QrG5zC)20170107_155403 (https://flic.kr/p/QrG5zC) by Poncho 65 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/148903443@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Poncho65 on January 08, 2017, 02:44:52 AM
My SI :cheers:

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/325/32170688455_dbef76557b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R1PbSk)20170107_155456 (https://flic.kr/p/R1PbSk) by Poncho 65 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/148903443@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 08, 2017, 02:46:09 AM
 :like: :like: !!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on January 16, 2017, 08:19:06 AM
Although I don't collect as much these days, partly because not much takes my eye.....
However, this certainly took my eye and finally arrived yesterday having spent the past 2 months constantly asking the seller to post as the 360 mile round trip to collect   was simply not an option.


Original Wenger counter display. I tried the Giant for size...  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on January 16, 2017, 08:23:47 AM
I tried the Giant for size...

Perfect EDC...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gregozedobe on January 16, 2017, 09:58:45 AM
I tried the Giant for size...

Perfect EDC...

But only if it is in the display cabinet (to show it off properly) .......  How big is your backpack ?     ;)   :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mini on January 16, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Amazing picture in this thread! I like also wenger,  I fell them better because I have a little hand, so for me that size is more comfortable.

Here my Wenger Pathfinder. Is has signed CIBA logo on one side.

Now I don't like very much his ruler/compas, I may prefer another tool, but   it's also a characteristics of this knife. When I bought it, maps can be consulted with it.
Anyway, I never used it for what is made of :D

P.s. Sorry for all grammatical mistakes  :dwts:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 16, 2017, 02:37:20 PM
 :like: :like: Beautiful knife Mini!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Danjo on January 16, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
Funny how things can change in a short period of time. Since joining here and reading various opinions, I added an Evo 10 and a classic Traveler to my collection. I love them both (especially the Traveler). The fingernail file is great. Also, the scissors are, at least in my opinion, better than the Victorinox version. Nice little tools!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 16, 2017, 04:10:55 PM
 :D I never owned a Wenger prior to joining the Forum either, regrettably, but you'll find that you'll make up for lost time quickly!  The Traveler is an awesome knife, and I love the Evo's.  I have a Wenger SI on the way....once you start I don't know if you can stop!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 17, 2017, 02:37:27 AM
More lost lambs who have seen The Light!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Danjo on January 17, 2017, 02:41:17 AM
More lost lambs who have seen The Light!



Baaaa
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 17, 2017, 02:48:43 AM
I just found out my son ordered a Traveler for me...now I have one of my own!!   :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh  I love how the 85's carry, and I've grown to really love Wenger.  I've said it alot over time, but I wish I had known more of them when they were still producing knives. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Roc on January 17, 2017, 02:54:08 AM
I just found out my son ordered a Traveler for me...now I have one of my own!!   :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh  I love how the 85's carry, and I've grown to really love Wenger.  I've said it alot over time, but I wish I had known more of them when they were still producing knives.
:like: I feel the same way. I think they are really underrated.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 17, 2017, 03:12:07 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mini on January 19, 2017, 09:10:34 AM
A local shop has some few wenger,  and for the first time I saw and touched the wenger swissgrip.  Very massif multitool, but not so interesting for me. Also there was a couple of Journeyman, so I bought one , I can't leave it there!

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 19, 2017, 01:33:00 PM
I love the Journeyman's pliers.  You've an awesome knife!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Danjo on January 19, 2017, 05:27:06 PM
A local shop has some few wenger,  and for the first time I saw and touched the wenger swissgrip.  Very massif multitool, but not so interesting for me. Also there was a couple of Journeyman, so I bought one , I can't leave it there!



That's awesome! Wengers are getting harder and harder to find.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mini on January 20, 2017, 09:48:05 AM



That's awesome! Wengers are getting harder and harder to find.

 :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: urbantinker on January 20, 2017, 11:09:52 AM
Wenger Trailblazer(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/082d537638a324040105851bad45b8d7.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 20, 2017, 12:23:32 PM
 :like: Nice one UrbanTinker!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: abhiram on January 23, 2017, 09:52:58 AM
All wengers:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170123/c798061323ead4aca76dabe7ea949c11.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 23, 2017, 12:47:21 PM
 :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 28, 2017, 10:44:19 AM
Here are my latest wengers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gim on March 28, 2017, 10:50:06 AM
Two sisters and three brothers  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on March 28, 2017, 06:52:21 PM
Wenger magnificience

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-03/20170323_175719_zpsvcl19umd.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on March 29, 2017, 09:41:05 AM
Nice knives!
For those wondering, the Wenger shown by Gim with the squared wrench is actually the very rare 1.547.13 model.
It was covered here
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,32456.msg1051398.html#msg1051398

I had contacts with Wenger about this knife in the past, but they couldn't provide more informations about it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: SAK Guy on March 29, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
An odd one is on mail duty today!!! Remember this one Basilio? :D

Unknown model...I've named mine a "Deluxe Traveler".
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Non%20catalog%20Wenger%20%20%203-29-17_zpsgnjfybvt.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 19, 2017, 09:07:35 PM
I like this little dude...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 20, 2017, 01:33:27 AM
 :like: I love Wengers!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on June 20, 2017, 02:06:39 AM
Still a big fan of the Traveller and the Pocket Tool Chest (or variations of these two). Most of the others are gone or going. The only other one that gets carried occasionally is the mod I named "Brian", which is essentially a Traveller with inline Phillips and carabiner.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 20, 2017, 02:20:44 AM
I carry my Traveler probably more than any of my other Wengers.  For some reason the blade on it seems twice as sharp as any of my other SAKs.

I like the sound of that mod sir!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 20, 2017, 02:39:08 AM
Still a big fan of the Traveller and the Pocket Tool Chest (or variations of these two). Most of the others are gone or going. The only other one that gets carried occasionally is the mod I named "Brian", which is essentially a Traveller with inline Phillips and carabiner.



I carry my Traveler probably more than any of my other Wengers.  For some reason the blade on it seems twice as sharp as any of my other SAKs.

I like the sound of that mod sir!!

Victorinox Traveller

Wenger Traveler

I just want an old Traveler w/ Vic can opener... is that so much to ask? >:(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 20, 2017, 06:29:03 AM
Since I only buy SAKs that I NEED and it's Summer and all, I thought an ice scraper would come in handy.
Love for Wenger??? What's not to love?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 20, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
 :2tu: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 20, 2017, 03:30:56 PM
the Champ, a worthy rival to the Swisschamp!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-06/20170616_124724_zpslp9oevkr.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 21, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
OK, the blade is snapped off but I still love them!
 :facepalm:

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-06/20170616_104308_zpsgiku9y2r.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 21, 2017, 05:02:50 PM
OK, the blade is snapped off but I still love them!
 :facepalm:

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-06/20170616_104308_zpsgiku9y2r.jpg)

Really diggin;' your use of negative space, P!   :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: shadowrider on June 28, 2017, 07:55:24 AM
What bothers me about most Wenger SAKs is the ubiquitous nail file.
I am fine with it being on a small 58mm knife that I'm gonna use mostly for manicure, but on a bigger knife, the idea of removing the gunk underneath my nails with the nailfile tip, to have then said nailfile resting 1mm next to the blade which I'm going to use to cut up an apple 10 minutes later is not a very appealing one.

 
Ok, rant over.  :P
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 28, 2017, 01:42:00 PM
big Wengers FTW

(http://i.imgur.com/ilJGc6l.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 28, 2017, 05:46:07 PM
One of my favorite SAKs, a Traveler.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 28, 2017, 06:21:49 PM
Really diggin' this Traveler.  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 30, 2017, 04:33:08 PM
 :like: :like: Beautiful pic and knife!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: theonew on July 02, 2017, 01:57:10 AM
I've owned a SAK since I was a child but never a Wenger :o Today that has changed as a Wenger EVO S13 showed up in the mail. I've recently developed a fondness for 84mm Vics. The size just seems right. My latest is a Walker, which I have been carrying for a couple of weeks. I like it a lot as it disappears in the pocket but it does leave me wishing it had a couple more tools. What I really want is a Sportsman with a saw or a Camper Small but I'm too busy at the moment to be doing any modding. So that led me to consider an 85mm Wenger (1mm can't make that much difference I thought). I have to say, having played a bit with this Wenger, there is a lot to like about it. I prefer the blade shape over Vic's and the locking feature is nice. The locking flat head is pretty cool. The can opener looks like it will perform well and the sharpened end looks like it could be useful for other cutting, scraping and carving tasks. While at first glance I assumed that the awl wouldn't drill a hole in wood, I tried it and it does but requires a bit more force and time. I'm considering sharpening it a bit though for better performance. The size and weight, 2.25 ounces, is great in a pocket. The contoured scales do add a bit of grip. The tip of the nail file doesn't work well as a 2D phillips and I'm considering grinding it down to make it fit better. But all in all I can see this becoming a regular carry item as I'm quite happy with it :tu:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/theonew/20170701_163828.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 03, 2017, 07:24:26 PM
 :like: I agree with you on the size.  You have a nice one!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on July 29, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
One of my fav - evogrip s557 at work.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on July 29, 2017, 10:46:41 PM
S18
(http://i.imgur.com/uNmtut1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 02, 2017, 03:47:56 PM
Nice pics guys!!  A 557 is on my list of wants and I have a Pati S18 that I love!  Here's a pic of my Highlander.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 06, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
SI in the forest :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on August 07, 2017, 02:43:33 AM
I've owned a SAK since I was a child but never a Wenger :o Today that has changed as a Wenger EVO S13 showed up in the mail. I've recently developed a fondness for 84mm Vics. The size just seems right. My latest is a Walker, which I have been carrying for a couple of weeks. I like it a lot as it disappears in the pocket but it does leave me wishing it had a couple more tools. What I really want is a Sportsman with a saw or a Camper Small but I'm too busy at the moment to be doing any modding. So that led me to consider an 85mm Wenger (1mm can't make that much difference I thought). I have to say, having played a bit with this Wenger, there is a lot to like about it. I prefer the blade shape over Vic's and the locking feature is nice. The locking flat head is pretty cool. The can opener looks like it will perform well and the sharpened end looks like it could be useful for other cutting, scraping and carving tasks. While at first glance I assumed that the awl wouldn't drill a hole in wood, I tried it and it does but requires a bit more force and time. I'm considering sharpening it a bit though for better performance. The size and weight, 2.25 ounces, is great in a pocket. The contoured scales do add a bit of grip. The tip of the nail file doesn't work well as a 2D phillips and I'm considering grinding it down to make it fit better. But all in all I can see this becoming a regular carry item as I'm quite happy with it :tu:

Yep I always like the Wengers too.
As you say, the locking blade and SD are great, and the can opener sharpened edge is really handy - not just for opening cans.
And sometimes you want a non-sharp awl pointy thing - when you do not want to cut what you are poking, so I like that tool too as-is.
I also really like the nail file, and am going to try a bit of re-profiling on that, to see if I can make it better for Phillips (never understood why Wenger never did this as standard) - as they even have a flat Phillips in place of the NF on some models, although not too common, but why not combine the two ??? 
I like the Wenger scissors - But I am leaning towards the Vics now - Mainly as they seem to handle my nails better - All other tasks they are equivalent. 

So I was sorry that Wengers were never as popular as Vics - and it was sad to see them go - But I would have done the same if I was Vic!!

PS. I also loved all their whacky SAKS with unique tools like the ski and roller blade adjusters, sewing machine tools etc etc
Check out SpeSmurfpillst Tools Unique to Wenger (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Tool+List#SpeSmurfpillst_Tools_Unique_to_Wenger) in the Wiki
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 07, 2017, 03:08:49 AM
I have done side by side comparisons of the Victorinox and Wenger awls on the cellidor models. there is hardly any difference at awl for hole making
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Faddy Daddy on August 11, 2017, 04:40:01 AM
I have done side by side comparisons of the Victorinox and Wenger awls on the cellidor models. there is hardly any difference at awl for hole making

Yes, I thought the evolution series are a sort of hybrid. It was my understanding the awl and the can opener are from Vic where the scissors, blade, nail file and locking cap puller flat blade are holdovers from Wenger.
I have to admit I am really loving my evo14. So much so I want to get another but can't decide between the grip 14 or the S14. I think the locking blade might be a nice feature to have. Wish it came with the dual composite grips as well.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on August 11, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on August 11, 2017, 06:39:23 AM
I have done side by side comparisons of the Victorinox and Wenger awls on the cellidor models. there is hardly any difference at awl for hole making

I agree with you. But I prefer the Wengers awl, because it's more powerful I think, more difficult to hurt yourself while working, a piece of wood it sews very well.
For some materials you need more strength to apply, but no need to worry about accidental contact with key ring.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Faddy Daddy on August 11, 2017, 07:27:42 AM
Just ordered an Evolution S14. I guess it's not truly a Wenger, but as close as one could get these days buying new.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on August 12, 2017, 07:36:02 AM
Just ordered an Evolution S14. I guess it's not truly a Wenger, but as close as one could get these days buying new.

Have such one in evo scales by Victorinox. Nice SAK.  Evogrip with security button i have not found.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 13, 2017, 05:03:57 PM
Got these today :
Looking for their name now, sak wiki doesn't help much for the red one....
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=332632)

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=332633)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on August 13, 2017, 09:14:18 PM
Got these today :
Looking for their name now, sak wiki doesn't help much for the red one....
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=332632)

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=332633)

Perhaps it's evo s13? I have this one with non locking blade in real tree apsnow scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 14, 2017, 08:47:19 AM
Perhaps it's evo s13? I have this one with non locking blade in real tree apsnow scales.

Looks like you are 100% right!
Thank you!
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+S13
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: clown on September 04, 2017, 05:00:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8zedHvw.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on September 04, 2017, 09:14:29 AM
 :2tu: :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on September 04, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
Why haven't I aquired a Wenger yet?! :bnghd:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on September 04, 2017, 11:44:51 AM
Anyway, last week I was at a store where they sold some SAKs.
A few of those were the S14, S11 etc but not the Vic Delemont, but actual NOS Wengers at regular retail price.
Would you guys think they're worth the money more then a Vic branded one?
They also had a NOS leather Wenger sheath at regular retail. Should I go and grab it ASAP?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on September 04, 2017, 06:12:09 PM
Anyway, last week I was at a store where they sold some SAKs.
A few of those were the S14, S11 etc but not the Vic Delemont, but actual NOS Wengers at regular retail price.
Would you guys think they're worth the money more then a Vic branded one?
They also had a NOS leather Wenger sheath at regular retail. Should I go and grab it ASAP?

if I had the money for them, I'd say yes xD
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on October 02, 2017, 10:35:09 PM
My s557 in wenger classic scales
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on October 05, 2017, 09:45:17 PM
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=339958)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on October 05, 2017, 10:19:16 PM
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=339958)


Evo 14 soft touch?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on October 06, 2017, 06:02:33 AM
Yes it is :-)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vovaster on October 06, 2017, 07:40:50 AM
Yes it is :-)


 :like: :like: :like:
It's awesome scales and knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on October 06, 2017, 08:12:13 AM
Yes it is :-)


 :like: :like: :like:
It's awesome scales and knife.

Sure, but it was too expensive and I shouldn't have bought it ^^

BTW, does anybody know why Wenger used a clip point blade on this model ?
It makes it look a little more aggressive than a standard SAK
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 11, 2017, 08:38:07 PM
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived.  Took a chance and bid on a bad pic.  This thing looks pretty much new.   Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman?  :think:

This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire.  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on November 11, 2017, 08:38:53 PM
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived.  Took a chance and bid on a bad pic.  This thing looks pretty much new.   Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman?  :think:

This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire.  :D
That's a nice specimen buddy!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 11, 2017, 08:48:19 PM
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived.  Took a chance and bid on a bad pic.  This thing looks pretty much new.   Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman?  :think:

This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire.  :D
That's a nice specimen buddy!
:hatsoff:   :cheers:  My first Wenger Magnifier.  It's pretty neat.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on November 11, 2017, 10:49:08 PM
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived.  Took a chance and bid on a bad pic.  This thing looks pretty much new.   Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman?  :think:

This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire.  :D
That's a nice specimen buddy!
:hatsoff:   :cheers:  My first Wenger Magnifier.  It's pretty neat.
With attached cocktail fork! :2tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 12, 2017, 02:06:48 AM
This Deluxe Backpacker just arrived.  Took a chance and bid on a bad pic.  This thing looks pretty much new.   Also came with another 5 layer, unsure of the name at the moment but maybe the Young Fisherman?  :think:

This Deluxe Backpacker will have to be another exception in the Corkscrew empire.  :D

The bottom knife was sold as a Sierra with a backpacker on the handle.  (#16985). With a plain handle it was sold as the Outdoorsman (#16993/1 27 63). With a cartoon fisherman it was sold as the Young Fisherman (?)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on November 15, 2017, 12:21:29 PM
lovely contoured scales

(https://i.imgur.com/Rcf8ouq.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on January 13, 2018, 04:37:30 PM
Some uncommon wenger knives...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on January 13, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on January 13, 2018, 05:48:14 PM
Wow indeed! would love details on the two brass and wood folders in the centre?, quite a collection  :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on January 13, 2018, 07:49:44 PM
Those are no folders but gravity switchblade knives...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on January 13, 2018, 09:49:30 PM
Very impresive. The best wengers i have seen. Please post more pictures for each one with open tools,  if you can.  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 13, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
Some uncommon wenger knives...

Outstanding collection! Most of those I've never seen.   :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 13, 2018, 11:41:16 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :like: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: cody6268 on January 14, 2018, 12:01:53 AM
Those are no folders but gravity switchblade knives...

That's interesting, I didn't know Wenger did autos/gravity knives.  I have a Grilon version of the little knife in the top right-hand corner, but most of those I haven't even seen before.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on January 14, 2018, 08:43:41 AM
Fantastic uncommon Wengers! Can you show us more pictures please?
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ReamerPunch on January 14, 2018, 12:09:48 PM
Some uncommon wenger knives...

Welcome to the forum!  :)
That collection is amazing, I would love to see more pictures of those beauties!  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on January 14, 2018, 12:57:52 PM
Those are no folders but gravity switchblade knives...

Never knew such a model existed , i would love a couple of those but i think they are illegal to import here so i must resist looking for one, would love to see more pictures though  :tu:
The three headed stamp is interesting too, i saw one on a Tahara a while back, any details on it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on January 14, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
Here's my old favourite and a Christmas Climber
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 14, 2018, 10:44:14 PM
A long ways from Wenger Collector, but still a nice selection of older Wengers.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 14, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
And a few more.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on January 14, 2018, 11:22:38 PM
 Nice collection  :like: :like:

Here are my oldest 3 Wengers and one of them isn't even a Wenger but i will include it in here till i learn better, stamped "Coutellerie Suisse" which i gather has some connection to Wenger in the early days  ??? 

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4658/39693171321_a282483272.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 15, 2018, 12:59:06 AM
 :drool: :drool:  :drool: :like: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on February 10, 2018, 03:03:28 PM
Hello wengercollektor

nice collection!
have never seen so many old Wenger knives at once!  congratulations
I'm interested in the blade marks, can you please adjust pictures of it?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaya_man on February 10, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
Soldat - SI - Swiss Army 70(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/05c8c067bacd739d049a306a85002fad.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on February 10, 2018, 06:54:57 PM
Soldat - SI - Swiss Army 70(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/05c8c067bacd739d049a306a85002fad.jpg)


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Will you be upset if I just cawl them awl SI's?  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaya_man on February 11, 2018, 03:07:53 AM
Soldat - SI - Swiss Army 70(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180210/05c8c067bacd739d049a306a85002fad.jpg)


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Will you be upset if I just cawl them awl SI's?  :D
Nah :lol:


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on February 11, 2018, 11:38:54 AM
Hello wengercollektor

nice collection!
have never seen so many old Wenger knives at once!  congratulations
I'm interested in the blade marks, can you please adjust pictures of it?

My understanding of Coutellerie Suisse is that it was a company that was absorbed into Wenger in 1908, the three headed tang stamp originated from Coutellerie Suisse and Wenger continued to use it, and variations of it for a few years. My own C/S knife sadly does not have this stamp.

Wengercollectors gravity switchblades are also interesting in that the design seems to lead us to the USA in the 1880's, Civil war Vet Captain Heysinger held the patents and yet here we see the 3 headed tang stamp again? So it can only be that either they used Swiss blades, or a Swiss company (Wenger?) had manufacturing rights here.

If you have any more information or corrections please share  :tu:

Oh, nice knife btw  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on February 11, 2018, 12:26:20 PM
The patent of this switchblade knife was the nr 307767 from november 11th 1884.

Could it be that the patent expired until 1907 when wenger startet using the 3 headed logo? You don`t find these knives with the wenger blades in the US, but in western europe.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: VoetSak on February 11, 2018, 05:17:21 PM
And a few more.

Coloswiss. What is the knife with the long driver and the hawksbill blade? Looks like a 1908 variant?

Very cool looking knife!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on February 11, 2018, 05:31:35 PM
That would make sense yes, i wasn't aware the US ones didn't have that stamp and just assumed they did  :tu:
The patent of this switchblade knife was the nr 307767 from november 11th 1884.

Could it be that the patent expired until 1907 when wenger startet using the 3 headed logo? You don`t find these knives with the wenger blades in the US, but in western europe.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 11, 2018, 11:33:03 PM
And a few more.

Coloswiss. What is the knife with the long driver and the hawksbill blade? Looks like a 1908 variant?

Very cool looking knife!

No info on it, but it appears to be an old electrician's knife, with the hawkbill a wire stripper.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on February 16, 2018, 01:12:24 PM
Look what I found in the corner of a fishing shop this morning...
New, with a few fingerprints on the blade and a crumpled box.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: VICMAN on February 16, 2018, 01:14:40 PM
Look what I found in the corner of a fishing shop this morning...
New, with a few fingerprints on the blade and a crumpled box.
Nice pic Thunderpants! :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on February 16, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
First sunny day since 1978!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caseman601225 on February 16, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
Tons of Wenger love here, though I own way more Vics. This SI gets daily pocket time.You can probably tell from the dirt.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/e83b0836026e05efbdb9f299e2908611.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on February 17, 2018, 04:49:40 PM
Tons of Wenger love here, though I own way more Vics. This SI gets daily pocket time.You can probably tell from the dirt.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/e83b0836026e05efbdb9f299e2908611.jpg)


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pretty user!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Caseman601225 on February 18, 2018, 06:09:12 AM
Thank you. My Dad gave me this knife when my son was born in 97. He got one for me and one for my son. It's date stamped 97 on the blade. Dad was a funny guy. He always sought out Wengers because everybody else was into Vics and he thought it wasn't fair. Lol. This knife, regardless what else I'm carrying, is with me if I'm dressed.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on February 18, 2018, 09:13:59 AM
I wish I'd picked up one of those old alox Wengers back when they were cheap as chips! Now they cost a fortune and as they are functionally no different to Pioneers I can't bring myself to buy one.
Actually there's a whole bunch of Wengers I wish I'd bought before they became extinct. Though there never was a time when the Porsche designed Wengers were a bargain!
Did anyone EDC one of these? They look pretty much indestructible.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mini on February 18, 2018, 10:39:43 AM
Wow!

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on February 18, 2018, 11:34:25 AM
I wish I'd picked up one of those old alox Wengers back when they were cheap as chips! Now they cost a fortune and as they are functionally no different to Pioneers I can't bring myself to buy one.
Actually there's a whole bunch of Wengers I wish I'd bought before they became extinct. Though there never was a time when the Porsche designed Wengers were a bargain!
Did anyone EDC one of these? They look pretty much indestructible.

I'd love to catch one of those Porsche design ... But for now, I am more than happy with my ST14 ! :-)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jaydar on February 18, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Some uncommon wenger knives...

Fantastic congratulations ... that must have taken many years to gather together.

Love the hobo knife ..... that is my new target knife  ...... any chance of some extra pics

Cheers and thanks for posting
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on February 19, 2018, 05:39:33 PM
Hello wengercollektor

nice collection!
have never seen so many old Wenger knives at once!  congratulations
I'm interested in the blade marks, can you please adjust pictures of it?

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on February 19, 2018, 05:42:18 PM
Some uncommon wenger knives...

Fantastic congratulations ... that must have taken many years to gather together.

Love the hobo knife ..... that is my new target knife  ...... any chance of some extra pics

Cheers and thanks for posting

Here some extra pics.

By the way: I love your 84 mm 4 pin climber.... :-) If you want to get rid of it some day, just let me know.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on February 19, 2018, 05:46:09 PM
 :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: chregu on February 22, 2018, 07:24:01 PM
Hello wengercollector

Many thanks for the pictures, I am interested in the blade stamp
think good if you show the knife and the blade stamps.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on February 22, 2018, 11:09:28 PM
Some uncommon wenger knives...

Fantastic congratulations ... that must have taken many years to gather together.

Love the hobo knife ..... that is my new target knife  ...... any chance of some extra pics

Cheers and thanks for posting

Here some extra pics.

By the way: I love your 84 mm 4 pin climber.... :-) If you want to get rid of it some day, just let me know.

Mind. Blown.  :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 13, 2018, 08:14:35 PM
Wenger junior


(https://i.imgur.com/7OVaIw9.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 13, 2018, 08:37:52 PM
Wenger Ranger orange
(https://i.imgur.com/0ckdZbJ.jpg)

Wenger Blackout ST
(https://i.imgur.com/Mh5QGZi.jpg)

Wenger Evo 565
(https://i.imgur.com/AlAKmFs.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 14, 2018, 08:23:29 AM
Niiice!
I'm still kicking myself for selling my orange Wenger Ranger! It's a beauty!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 14, 2018, 01:22:39 PM
Niiice!
I'm still kicking myself for selling my orange Wenger Ranger! It's a beauty!

Stop kicking yourself  ;). You're right - its a beauty.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 14, 2018, 01:32:21 PM
Wenger Signal
(https://i.imgur.com/6uTtMAc.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 14, 2018, 02:17:21 PM
Ahhhh! - there's something a bit crappy about the Signal though isn't there!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 14, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
Ahhhh! - there's something a bit crappy about the Signal though isn't there!


Sorry my english is not that good. I am not sure if i understand you correctly
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 14, 2018, 02:54:52 PM
I mean it's not a very pretty SAK! (Don't worry, I am joking. They're all lovely!)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 14, 2018, 03:28:26 PM
Thank you  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on March 14, 2018, 04:09:41 PM
Lots of love for Wenger in my house :D

https://youtu.be/7KZ2sWuES6I

Pics in this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76327.msg1655996.html#msg1655996).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 14, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
Lots of love for Wenger in my house :D

https://youtu.be/7KZ2sWuES6I

Pics in this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76327.msg1655996.html#msg1655996).

Very nice!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/05DAGQQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on March 15, 2018, 10:35:19 PM
So much love for them that I even search for maimed and crippled Wengers to care for and find a place to live  :salute:

(https://i.imgur.com/Og6rcb2.jpg)

They're veterans after all, of a breed that does not longer exist!!!  :ahhh

(https://i.imgur.com/XJzYa38.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VOyv1rP.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 16, 2018, 11:30:10 AM
Way to go Peacent!! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on March 16, 2018, 07:09:55 PM
SIMM RAM from the 80-90s with chips from Japan, Korea and Germany... and a much recent ST14  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 16, 2018, 09:07:03 PM
 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 16, 2018, 09:09:34 PM
Diggin' the ST14!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 16, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
+1!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 19, 2018, 06:51:53 PM
El go-to Wenger  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 21, 2018, 07:24:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ElzsgVC.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 21, 2018, 07:53:22 PM
 :o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 21, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!

Thank you  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on March 22, 2018, 01:13:50 PM
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!

Thank you  :tu:

 :like:
looks like the tools from my Wenger Champion...what's this model called?  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 23, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
:o
That's a thing of beauty CeHo!

Thank you  :tu:

 :like:
looks like the tools from my Wenger Champion...what's this model called?  :salute:

Sorry, I don‘t know - i‘m looking for more informations of this model. But i‘m very busy right now - maybe someone here has more informations?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 07:16:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CVVIOv1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 26, 2018, 07:40:06 PM
 :o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on March 26, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!

I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ...  :bnghd:

 :twak: to myself .
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 08:21:46 PM
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!

I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ...  :bnghd:

 :twak: to myself .

Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on March 26, 2018, 08:23:14 PM
Minigrip? i'm always tempted by the Swissgrip but that one is cuter  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on March 26, 2018, 08:24:57 PM
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!

I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ...  :bnghd:

 :twak: to myself .

Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?

That one was the needle-nose version.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 08:27:06 PM
It’s a PocketGrip  :)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 08:33:53 PM
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!

I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ...  :bnghd:

 :twak: to myself .

Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?

That one was the needle-nose version.

You are a lucky guy - i‘m looking for this one. Plastic or metalhandle?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on March 26, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
:o
Nice!!! I've never seen one of those!

I have, in a shop only 10 minutes drive away from my home ... and I let it pass ...  :bnghd:

 :twak: to myself .

Oh no!
With needle-nose or blunt-nose plier configurations?

That one was the needle-nose version.

You are a lucky guy - i‘m looking for this one. Plastic or metalhandle?
Lucky?
He didn't grab it when he had the chance! :twak:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 08:37:20 PM
He can buy it tomorrow... :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on March 26, 2018, 08:44:05 PM
You can buy it tomorrow... :tu:

When I said "I let it pass", I meant I had the chance to buy it, kept thinking about buying it, until one day it was gone ...

But I'm trying not to think of such missed opportunities too much, instead I try to think of the good deals I did get my hands on.  Can't have them all I guess (unless your name is Chako maybe  :think:).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 08:46:02 PM
Oh no - I got it wrong
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on March 26, 2018, 09:13:00 PM
Oh no - I got it wrong

So did I mate ... I should have bought it  ;).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 26, 2018, 09:21:44 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on March 27, 2018, 12:48:22 AM
Just picked up my third Wenger custom SAK.. First has carbon fiber scales, second copper scales, and last titanium scales. All are great for EDC.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 27, 2018, 01:01:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ElzsgVC.jpg)

Its a Wenger Special Edition, with lock and caribou leather handles. Part of  a limited run of 500.  # 156.34.567. Nice find!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 27, 2018, 04:49:24 PM
Thank you!

Is your tool numbered?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Rob2CV on March 27, 2018, 07:34:50 PM
I'm new to SAKs, however it seems to me that the Wenger models are Swiss Army Knives for the thinking man. The design of their scissors and the locking screwdriver are very appealing.
Victorinox being more conservative perhaps?
Rob
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 27, 2018, 07:42:58 PM
You‘re right. Wenger was more innovative - maybe a little bit to much...  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on March 27, 2018, 07:59:49 PM
Just picked up my third Wenger custom SAK.. First has carbon fiber scales, second copper scales, and last titanium scales. All are great for EDC.

Wow, these are nice!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 28, 2018, 12:04:35 AM
Thank you!

Is your tool numbered?

#3**/500
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 28, 2018, 06:20:00 PM
Thank you!

Is your tool numbered?

#3**/500

There is no number on mine... :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 28, 2018, 06:22:40 PM
I'm quite partial to this Snife
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on March 28, 2018, 08:49:20 PM
I'm quite partial to this Snife

I like that one too!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 28, 2018, 09:23:33 PM
 :like:

Unfortunately they are hard to come by in Germany
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 28, 2018, 09:26:33 PM
thanks, yawl!   :salute:

Ceho, I'll keep my eyes peeled for one stateside.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 28, 2018, 09:34:54 PM
all right   :)

I want a complete Wenger Snife Collection. I have none at the moment :(
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Gath on March 28, 2018, 10:14:28 PM
I've s few Wengers but I carry my SwissChamp most of the time so no real need to carry one. 120mm line is interesting to me but hard to come by. For now I'm looking for security models to gift to my nephews, if I can convince their parents.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 29, 2018, 02:46:44 AM
Thank you!

Is your tool numbered?

#3**/500

There is no number on mine... :o

Did you check on the main blade?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on March 29, 2018, 04:10:58 PM
Thank you!

Is your tool numbered?

#3**/500

There is no number on mine... :o

Did you check on the main blade?

Yes, there is no number...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:03:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CAF74Ms.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:04:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QUzW4ay.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 02, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
Nice!  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:28:59 PM
Thank you!

(https://i.imgur.com/9HtzFZB.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:29:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/p6KB9r4.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on April 02, 2018, 08:34:16 PM
Wow that's a nice one!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2018, 08:41:56 PM
Thanks  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 03, 2018, 06:40:41 AM
Here are a few you won't see very often!

Evolution 63, the Wenger version of the single layer Waiter:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/876/40304890355_a545ac2ce7_b.jpg)

The EvoGrip 64 doesn't even have an entry in SAKWiki! Wenger's version of the mythical single layer Apprentice, and apparently just as mythical. Got several of these from the Ukraine.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/899/39390935440_c3d54a3e10_b.jpg)

The MTO 7th Anniversary EvoGrip 11.x Blackout

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/788/41201225681_026cf23067_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gw8433 on April 03, 2018, 08:36:42 AM
my wenger
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 03, 2018, 10:53:50 AM
my wenger


Superb!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 03, 2018, 11:08:18 AM
The Evolution 28 which was continued by Victorinox in Vic livery. It is directly descended from the Classic 28 that went by the Champ name as well. The closest Victorinox model is the Champion.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/805/40308662955_06855f9b52_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on April 03, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
That magnifying glass! Looks so cool, does so little!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 03, 2018, 01:39:04 PM
That magnifying glass! Looks so cool, does so little!

Its size makes it more difficult to use than Vic's, but it does work. Forgive the graininess as I used the cell phone which was far, far less than optimal in resolving power for this macro. I do wish Vic had done something about them when they implemented the Vic can opener, awl, toothpick and tweezers in the Delemont SAKs.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/802/41161710932_c0ecd40134_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 03, 2018, 03:29:52 PM
Nice stuff jalind  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 05, 2018, 08:23:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/574bBn3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: mattbod on April 05, 2018, 09:01:46 PM
Are Wenger and Victorinox one and the same now? Quality should be even then shouldn't it? Wenger was always seen as the poor relation when I was a kid, I don't know why.  I would like to own a pre Victorinox Wenger to see what they are like but can't seem to find one. I have always had Victorinox and been happy though have looked at Victorinox Delamonts which I guess are Wengers. I think I was told by my grandad as a kid that Wenger were the NCO knives and Victorinox the commissioned officers lol.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 05, 2018, 09:47:33 PM
lol.  Seems like most agree that Wenger isn't up to Vic's quality in general.  Victorinox absorbed Wenger after Wenger got into financial trouble several years ago, made some changes but a lot of the tools (ie blade, scissors, caplifter) are still the same.   You can easily find used Wengers on eBay. 

It's funny, when I was a kid I was always bummed when a store's Swiss Army Knife section only had Wengers.  I remember asking my dad about it, I don't really remember what he said but I do remember saying that Wengers are Swiss Army Knives too.... he always bought Victorinox for me though, but did get my brother a Wenger Trout.

These days I just love carrying a Wenger SI and a few 85mm, but not too often.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on April 05, 2018, 10:05:24 PM
The best Wengers ever made were produced after Vic bought them.  Vic quality and Wenger innovation in full flower.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/9ea41936763e87cfd93a2a4fa38b0a63.jpg)

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on April 05, 2018, 10:11:31 PM
I am still so tempted by the Uli Steck... if only they weren't so darned expensive! (and impractical!)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on April 05, 2018, 10:39:13 PM
The Wenger knives I own are up to par with the Victorinox ones when it comes to quality, and fit and finish in my opinion.  Some Wenger tools are different from Victorinox's counterparts, but different does not always mean less good ... 

The design of the scissors for example is quite different from the ones found on the Vic knives, other spring mechanism, small serrated teeth ...  Some people hate them, others love them.  I for one love the spring mechanism on the Wenger scissors. The can opener is also different, I prefer the Vic design, and apparently others felt the same, since Victorinox changed them to their own design on the Vic Delémont knives, while keeping the "old" Wenger style scissors.

In my opinion, Wenger took more risks in the design fase, leading to some brilliant ideas, and to some failures.  While Victorinox played it safe most of the time (nonetheless, they still have some oddities in their history as well  ;)).

I love my Wengers, and I'm very happy I got the chance to go to Switzerland in 2015, when there were still plenty of n.i.b. Wenger knives to be found (I'm not saying that they are all gone over there, since I was also able to find some sweet,  discontinued for more than 15 years, SAK's back then.  But last year, during my vacation to Austria we took a day trip to Vaduz (the capitol of liechtenstein) and all the Wengers were gone there, while in 2015 they still had Wengers in every store.  But I guess that in other, less "tourist infested" towns, you can still find new Wengers.

I feel bad about all the ones I didn't buy back in 2015  :facepalm:.  But my desire to buy SAK's often outweighs the capabilities of my wallet ...  ::).
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on April 05, 2018, 10:56:07 PM


lol.  Seems like most agree that Wenger isn't up to Vic's quality in general.  Victorinox absorbed Wenger after Wenger got into financial trouble several years ago, made some changes but a lot of the tools (ie blade, scissors, caplifter) are still the same.   You can easily find used Wengers on eBay. 

It's funny, when I was a kid I was always bummed when a store's Swiss Army Knife section only had Wengers.  I remember asking my dad about it, I don't really remember what he said but I do remember saying that Wengers are Swiss Army Knives too.... he always bought Victorinox for me though, but did get my brother a Wenger Trout.

These days I just love carrying a Wenger SI and a few 85mm, but not too often.  :cheers:

Some tools are the same and some have been changed (the awl for example). However, the steel they use is now the same as for Victorinox's "own" knives, as opposed to the slightly softer steel that Wenger knives used.

I think a good measure of W vs V is that MacGyver used them both alternatively :D

I've always considered Vs to be better than Ws but that was before owning them. They have their advantages (scissors, pliers, wrench and more original special runs...) and the fact that they were from the the French-speaking part of Switzerland made me ever more sad to see them go. The Schwitzer-dutch-speaking won the "war".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 06, 2018, 03:26:14 AM
The best Wengers ever made were produced after Vic bought them.  Vic quality and Wenger innovation in full flower.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180405/9ea41936763e87cfd93a2a4fa38b0a63.jpg)

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 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: TennTexan on April 06, 2018, 05:35:23 AM
Here's a bit of vintage Wenger love... an old 1960s (I think) Allsport 93mm.  Apart from a slightly tweaked screwdriver and a ding on the small clip point blade (which should come out with a bit of work), it's in amazing shape.  I did a Hobie sandpaper polish job on the two blades and got out the worst of the scratches.  It's got a wicked looking saw!  What a cool old knife.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Thunderpants on April 06, 2018, 09:47:34 AM
Wow, that's a 60s beauty!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 06, 2018, 11:44:40 PM
Here's a bit of vintage Wenger love... an old 1960s (I think) Allsport 93mm.  Apart from a slightly tweaked screwdriver and a ding on the small clip point blade (which should come out with a bit of work), it's in amazing shape.  I did a Hobie sandpaper polish job on the two blades and got out the worst of the scratches.  It's got a wicked looking saw!  What a cool old knife.
:drool: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on April 07, 2018, 02:42:24 AM
Here's a bit of vintage Wenger love... an old 1960s (I think) Allsport 93mm.  Apart from a slightly tweaked screwdriver and a ding on the small clip point blade (which should come out with a bit of work), it's in amazing shape.  I did a Hobie sandpaper polish job on the two blades and got out the worst of the scratches.  It's got a wicked looking saw!  What a cool old knife.
Really nice! And with a saw too! Am I right to assume that the can opener is also in similar great condition?
It's too bad the crest lost most of its red, these are the coolest looking ones imo. It's still gorgeous in silver though... I wonder if there's a way to restore it.

I just brought one of these (minus the saw) with a big blade snapped in half to the vic spa to see if there's anything they can do for it. Not much hope but we never know :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 07, 2018, 08:47:12 PM
Wenger business tool
(https://i.imgur.com/L5Neisr.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 07, 2018, 09:44:09 PM
That's awesome!   :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 07, 2018, 09:50:05 PM
Good ole Viking,  saved this one from the chopping block... Cuz everyone needs at least one classic Wenger keychain.

Seems like Wenger had a high percentage of knives without toothpick and tweezers. Especially in the 90's.   I think this one's from the 80s early 90s and it has the toothpick and tweezers. It's one of my favorites.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 07, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
Nice  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 15, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Evolution S101

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/893/41428626801_d244c443b6_b.jpg)

Wenger's Evo version of the Spartan and Tourist with locking blade

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on April 15, 2018, 11:12:12 PM
BSA Forester S17 with metal inlaid fleur-de-lis.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: McMartin on April 15, 2018, 11:15:00 PM
Much love for Wenger here!  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 16, 2018, 02:09:18 AM
Wenger Commander

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/798/27611821668_718a3b6ea9_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on April 16, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
Wenger Commander

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/798/27611821668_718a3b6ea9_b.jpg)

John

are the scales in that SAK glued with loctite?  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 16, 2018, 03:38:27 PM
Wenger Commander

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/798/27611821668_718a3b6ea9_b.jpg)

John

are the scales in that SAK glued with loctite?  :D
:rofl:

Funny you should ask. I got several of these and converted one of them to a Classic 10 with a set of scales that added T&T. The scales just popped right off.  :D

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/813/26512986887_b877e42677_b.jpg)

John

Footnote regarding Wenger scales . . .
Changing scales on the Wenger requires knowing which version scales are needed. Wenger changed how they attach several times. Had to do a little research to ensure I was getting the proper ones. Not as straightforward as with Victorinox scales.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 16, 2018, 04:36:22 PM

Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/867/26626995127_a4ea2b018f_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on April 17, 2018, 02:11:46 PM

Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/867/26626995127_a4ea2b018f_b.jpg)

John

awesome!  :like: :like:
Nail clipper SAKs are favorites of mine and I don't recall ever seeing this one  :o
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: McMartin on April 23, 2018, 02:35:05 AM
Many nice Wengers guys!  :like: :like:

This Evo 14.600 transparent is getting daily pocket time....
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: McMartin on April 23, 2018, 02:43:54 AM

Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/867/26626995127_a4ea2b018f_b.jpg)

John

Is this Evo Swiss Clipper AT specially designed for air travelling after 9/11?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 23, 2018, 03:01:50 AM

Evolution Swiss Clipper AT (Air Traveler) with screwdriver in place of knife blade . . .

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/867/26626995127_a4ea2b018f_b.jpg)

John

Is this Evo Swiss Clipper AT specially designed for air travelling after 9/11?
Yes. Wenger designed a number of smaller "AT" with the small screwdriver and this was one of them. I still wouldn't put any of them in carry-on luggage though.

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 23, 2018, 03:35:19 AM
Wenger Teton (non-serrated with Phillips variant)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/938/41553089662_e93fe43257_b.jpg)

EvoGrip 16

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/899/40837066154_d2fecac44c_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 23, 2018, 05:56:16 PM
jalind, you have a really nice collection  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 23, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
Many nice Wengers guys!  :like: :like:

This Evo 14.600 transparent is getting daily pocket time....
I like the ruby scales!
 :tu:

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 23, 2018, 06:12:22 PM
jalind, you have a really nice collection  :like:
Thanks!
Started picking up some of the Wenger to have examples of their equivalent to some of the most poplular Victorinox. Their 85mm size makes them a bit easier to carry in smaller pockets and tighter fitting dressier clothes.

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on April 23, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
Two new arrivals, small one i had already :tu:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/807/27782200068_e18df5a72a.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 23, 2018, 07:47:28 PM
Nice pics and tools :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 24, 2018, 02:02:58 AM
Two new arrivals, small one i had already :tu:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/807/27782200068_e18df5a72a.jpg)
:tu: :tu: :tu:
 :drool:

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 24, 2018, 02:04:37 AM
BNIB SwissBuck Trekker . . .

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/868/40767393185_29eb968885_b.jpg)

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on April 24, 2018, 02:23:51 AM
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)

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Post by: McMartin on April 24, 2018, 03:58:46 AM
Many nice Wengers guys!  :like: :like:

This Evo 14.600 transparent is getting daily pocket time....
I like the ruby scales!
 :tu:

John

Thanks John :tu:
Nice Wengers you have  :like:
I bet I haven’t seen all...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jalind on April 24, 2018, 05:07:36 AM
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)

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heh heh heh - I have two more inbound.  ;)

That's one of the nice ones with the pliers!

John
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 01, 2018, 07:18:39 PM
This highlander is really growing on me
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 11, 2018, 08:29:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/G0aYwOj.jpg)
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Post by: El Corkscrew on May 12, 2018, 03:40:41 AM
beautiful, CeHo!  :like:  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on May 12, 2018, 08:29:16 AM
Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)

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Post by: CeHo on May 12, 2018, 09:09:53 AM
beautiful, CeHo!  :like:  :tu:

Thanks!
Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)

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Nice
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Post by: Huntsman on May 12, 2018, 10:02:26 AM
Good to see all this ongoing love for Wenger    :tu:   :)

Long may it continue     :cheers:

Thanks for all the posts, piccies, and recent acquisitions    :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 12, 2018, 01:06:19 PM
mine is a common, simple Wenger but it's grown on me over its Victorinox counterpart throughout the years

Traveller

(https://i.imgur.com/1oDnQ5f.jpg)
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Post by: El Corkscrew on May 15, 2018, 02:17:32 AM
Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)

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:o :drool: :like:
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Post by: ThePeacent on May 16, 2018, 01:44:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/HQNSyid.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: TennTexan on May 16, 2018, 07:02:05 PM
Handwerker(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180512/82fc79e3414b88f704fc6e1636f12019.jpg)

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Beautiful knife!  I've let a couple of Professionals get away on fleaBay... but one of these days I'll snag one.  Such cool knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 16, 2018, 11:46:10 PM
I've a simple 2 layer professional with saw and blade stamped '81, and it's great...  Gifted to me from the magnanimous sir Mags.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 17, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
the chain  :drool:

(https://i.imgur.com/SeLRUad.jpg)

classy Wenger feature  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on May 17, 2018, 10:16:23 PM
 :like:  My first few Wengers didn't have chains but i have a couple now and i really like having them  :salute:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/965/42130182242_bdcf04f7eb.jpg)
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zrxoa1 on May 18, 2018, 03:38:47 AM
I only have three Wengers, but I really like them!

My first was the SI. I carried it everyday for a few years. Love it!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180518/0b3600ac9a36ed086ed921498af031a5.jpg)


Then I picked up this Alpine Backpacker. (I forgot to pull the saw blade out...). If it had a plain edge blade, I’d carry it a lot more!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180518/8c9ae2060360d45448ff7d5ccf929788.jpg)


The last one I picked up was this Viking. Got it cheap and thought it was neat, but have never carried it.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180518/31d8f95b0a68edc252c24f59841ff177.jpg)


The group...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180518/5f381044a92fca0f7e8afb6cae27ff9f.jpg)






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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 18, 2018, 04:38:55 PM
 :like: i love the SE backpacker
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 18, 2018, 08:38:09 PM
Wenger Titanium I and Titanium Ueli Steck Model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 18, 2018, 09:04:34 PM
Cool stuff  :tu:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 18, 2018, 09:40:21 PM
Cool stuff  :tu:
Thanks, CeHo!  :salute:
I have a few Wenger knives. But the Titanium Series is "another story".
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 18, 2018, 10:02:49 PM
Cool stuff  :tu:
Thanks, CeHo!  :salute:
I have a few Wenger knives. But the Titanium Series is "another story".

Why is the titanium series another story?
A have the complete Series - unique design and very cool tools...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 18, 2018, 10:29:46 PM
Why is the titanium series another story?
It's completely different from other Wenger knives.

A have the complete Series - unique design and very cool tools...
I have the complete Series too.  ;) And I like it. Though I am not sure about their usability (in mountains I prefer my old Victorinox Picknicker), but they are really cool and I gave several of Wenger Titanium Series knives to my friends who love mountains too.

(Sorry about possible misunderstanding. It's all because of my poor English.)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on May 19, 2018, 12:22:17 AM
The Titanium Series also features the NewRanger type blade lock- -
The only 85mm knives that have it.

Having gone to the trouble of manufacturing those scales and that locking mech, why not put them on more knives?  I have the Ueli and the 2,  would really like to see a 557 in TI with the vastly improved locking mechanism.

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 19, 2018, 03:26:49 AM
Why is the titanium series another story?
It's completely different from other Wenger knives.

A have the complete Series - unique design and very cool tools...
I have the complete Series too.  ;) And I like it. Though I am not sure about their usability (in mountains I prefer my old Victorinox Picknicker), but they are really cool and I gave several of Wenger Titanium Series knives to my friends who love mountains too.

(Sorry about possible misunderstanding. It's all because of my poor English.)

No, it’s my problem - not yours  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 19, 2018, 07:19:33 AM
No, it’s my problem - not yours  ;)
:cheers:

Another Wenger -- Gawain Blue from the Dynasty Series.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 19, 2018, 09:38:18 AM
 Cool - I think we need more pics from your collection here  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 19, 2018, 11:02:41 AM
Cool - I think we need more pics from your collection here  ;)
Thank you! But I have only a few Wenger knives.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 19, 2018, 08:41:20 PM
Rare wenger business tool (grey) for for travelling (no knife and no scissors)

(https://i.imgur.com/HR4KWWr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8x2RgEF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U7lcaq6.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 19, 2018, 09:12:59 PM
Rare wenger business tool (grey) for for travelling (no knife and no scissors)
:like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 19, 2018, 09:15:18 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 20, 2018, 06:37:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6Y3gSS.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on May 20, 2018, 08:31:51 PM
I have a new-to-me inbound that I haven't seen before.  It's kind of in rough shape:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/954/28363705588_4cf6ef7e42.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 22, 2018, 03:50:58 AM
Rare wenger business tool (grey) for for travelling (no knife and no scissors)
:like:
+1  I want one on my desk!!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 22, 2018, 03:52:04 AM
Just scored this awesome Wenger Wallet.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 22, 2018, 08:04:19 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 22, 2018, 12:46:59 PM
A few small Wenger SAKs.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: tosh on May 22, 2018, 01:22:32 PM
Takes a lot to impress me these days....
But that's certainly impressive CeHo

Great catch :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aloha on May 22, 2018, 03:32:16 PM
Just scored this awesome Wenger Wallet.

Nice.  I've been using a Wenger wallet now for a while and like it.  The clear id plastic cover like many is failing but the wallet is going strong. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 22, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
Thanks tosh  :tu:

Cool that you like it
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 22, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Just scored this awesome Wenger Wallet.

Nice.  I've been using a Wenger wallet now for a while and like it.  The clear id plastic cover like many is failing but the wallet is going strong.
:cheers: this one actually has a mesh id cover
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 22, 2018, 06:01:40 PM
Takes a lot to impress me these days....
But that's certainly impressive CeHo

Great catch :tu:

Spanish pamphlet/instructions manual  :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 23, 2018, 02:24:45 PM
Wengers are, like Elvis, a treasure from the past that still shines today

(https://i.imgur.com/9MNjIiQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 23, 2018, 04:25:34 PM
Takes a lot to impress me these days....
But that's certainly impressive CeHo

Great catch :tu:

Spanish pamphlet/instructions manual  :D

 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 24, 2018, 11:43:00 AM
my most carried W so far  :tu:

(https://i.imgur.com/ACyuQzD.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 25, 2018, 04:46:53 PM
oldest W, still rocking!!

(https://i.imgur.com/mhtEDr8.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 25, 2018, 08:00:55 PM
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)

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I picked up a Swissbuck Taskmate I on eBay for $20 last week, and I'm loving it. It's been getting pocket time lately because it fits in the coin pocket of my jeans.  I like the clip point blades and the pliers are nice. My scales are pretty rough, otherwise it's in great shape. I have some nice wooden scales I am going to put on this little taskmate... but before I commit to the epoxy, I'm seriously considering snagging a cheapie eBay knife and transplanting scissors in to make it a Taskmate II.

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 25, 2018, 11:10:50 PM
Some Wenger Watchmakers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 26, 2018, 02:05:25 AM
I'll see your Swissbuck and raise you one.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/9ce1fbc0d33fa9535ae8cfce711cd823.jpg)

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I picked up a Swissbuck Taskmate I on eBay for $20 last week, and I'm loving it. It's been getting pocket time lately because it fits in the coin pocket of my jeans.  I like the clip point blades and the pliers are nice. My scales are pretty rough, otherwise it's in great shape. I have some nice wooden scales I am going to put on this little taskmate... but before I commit to the epoxy, I'm seriously considering snagging a cheapie eBay knife and transplanting scissors in to make it a Taskmate II.

Charles.

Yeah, I decided to go ahead and completely refurb the knife and add scissors to it. Going to sand and polish all the tools as well. It'll look like new when I'm done!

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 26, 2018, 10:07:26 AM
Some Wenger Watchmakers:

 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 26, 2018, 04:27:15 PM
CeHo, thanks!  :salute:

Wenger Linkshänder and two more:

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 26, 2018, 04:41:02 PM
Nice - I have also 2 Linkshänder
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 27, 2018, 12:47:55 AM
Nice - I have also 2 Linkshänder
They are a little bit expensive now. I wonder why Victorinox do not release any knives for left-handed people?

Two knives from Wenger Anne-Marie Vallotton-Saugy “Life” Series:


Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 29, 2018, 12:19:44 PM
my fat Wenger

(https://i.imgur.com/xnrQXc9.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Antti Lammi on May 29, 2018, 04:59:33 PM
My first Wenger(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180529/b95f8e137644b4d85685f281840deef7.jpg)

Only Tools Matters

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 29, 2018, 05:38:42 PM
My first Wenger(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180529/b95f8e137644b4d85685f281840deef7.jpg)

Only Tools Matters
And it's a beauty!   :tu: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Antti Lammi on May 29, 2018, 05:49:23 PM
Thanks

Only Tools Matters

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on May 29, 2018, 06:55:26 PM
Nice knives everyone  :tu: Antti, congrats i hope many more follow  :salute:
My only left handed, Matterhorn plus

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1759/28562162538_682c5d9178.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on May 30, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
Nice knives everyone  :tu: Antti, congrats i hope many more follow  :salute:
My only left handed, Matterhorn plus

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1759/28562162538_682c5d9178.jpg)

gorgeous pic,
awesome pick!

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on May 31, 2018, 11:20:56 AM
Dual blade  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 31, 2018, 11:26:29 AM
Dual blade  :salute:
:like:

And one more Wenger -- Ranger 38-36:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on May 31, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
Dual blade  :salute:
:like:

And one more Wenger -- Ranger 38-36:
Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives? I found 5 last time I searched... Never saw this one!

Just found some info that maybe they just used spare Alinghi blades to make these...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on May 31, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
Another leftie:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/a23eb2e6069143032b5d758b92b20561.jpg)

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Post by: CeHo on May 31, 2018, 01:21:43 PM
Another leftie:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/a23eb2e6069143032b5d758b92b20561.jpg)

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Wow!

Dual blade  :salute:
:like:

And one more Wenger -- Ranger 38-36:


Wow - I never see this one  :like: any more informations about this one?


Dual blade  :salute:

 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 31, 2018, 02:06:18 PM
Another leftie:
:like:

Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives?
It should be...

Just found some info that maybe they just used spare Alinghi blades to make these...
Yes, it's seems to be true.

Wow - I never see this one  :like: any more informations about this one?


All I know about this knife: it's a Wenger Ranger 38-36 (1.92.38.36). It was produced in March 2011, bought in Wenger Outlet in Landquart, Switzerland.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 31, 2018, 03:04:05 PM
Another leftie:
:like:

Wait... So there are 6 Alinghi knives?
It should be...

Just found some info that maybe they just used spare Alinghi blades to make these...
Yes, it's seems to be true.

Wow - I never see this one  :like: any more informations about this one?


All I know about this knife: it's a Wenger Ranger 38-36 (1.92.38.36). It was produced in March 2011, bought in Wenger Outlet in Landquart, Switzerland.

Thanks for your info  :tu: it’s a great peace
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 31, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
Thanks for your info  :tu: it’s a great peace
My pleasure.  :salute:
If you wish, I can make some more photos of this model.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 31, 2018, 05:31:01 PM
Thanks for your info  :tu: it’s a great peace
My pleasure.  :salute:
If you wish, I can make some more photos of this model.

Thanks - more pics would be very cool :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 31, 2018, 06:24:16 PM
I'm working on a Wenger mod right now. Waiting on some more parts knives to be delivered!

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 31, 2018, 08:13:19 PM
Some more photos of  Wenger Ranger 38-36:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 31, 2018, 08:28:41 PM
Hey Nick, thank you very much.

It’s a fantastic knife  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on May 31, 2018, 08:30:02 PM
It’s a fantastic knife  :tu:
Thank you, CeHo!  :cheers:

I like it too. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on May 31, 2018, 09:00:25 PM
It’s a fantastic knife  :tu:
Thank you, CeHo!  :cheers:

I like it too. ;)

 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on June 01, 2018, 12:55:14 PM
Hey Guys

This knife seems pretty special....
Firstly - It has the 120mm scales.. yet you are saying it came out in 2011 - So that is a couple of years after the 130mm Rangers came out and the 120mm were retired - So this is very unusual
Secondly - As you have pointed out it has the Alinghi blade
Thirdly - It is the model 36-38 - Right ??? That's a strange model no.

So this is pretty unusual and very unique ..........  And it is not in the Wiki   :o
Any idea if it is a one or two off - Or were there a few made ? Should it be in the Wiki? - Given we have box, pics, model no etc - I am thinking ... Yes !

Do you agree? ..... If so - can I borrow the pics and make a page for it please ?    :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 01, 2018, 03:24:32 PM
This knife seems pretty special....
Fisrtly - It has the 120mm scales.. yet you are saying it came out in 2011
 
Yes, Sir Huntsman. As you can see from the printed text (03 2011)  on the box in the picture above.

Secondly - As you have pointed out it has the Alinghi blade
Yes. There is a short review (https://swissknives.info/wenger-ranger-model-38/) by Sir victor7000 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2007), there this fact is mentioned too.
And I suppose, it’s “remains and seconds” from the main Alinghi knives production – I have two knives, bought NIB, but both have some minor scratches on the main blade.

Thirdly - It is the model 36-38 - Right ??? That's a strange model no.
Model 38-36. And in accordance with Sir victor7000 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2007), there is another model 38-38 with an additional Phillips screwdriver.

Any idea if it is a one or two off - Or were there a few made ?
When I have bought these knives, I have seen a lot of them (dozens) on the Outlet’s shelf.
can I borrow the pics and make a page for it please ?    :tu:
Yes, please. And thank you very much!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: basilio on June 04, 2018, 10:37:21 AM
Any idea if it is a one or two off - Or were there a few made ?

Hello,
I have both models, so I think there were quite a few made.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on June 07, 2018, 10:13:07 PM
Any love for old Soldier?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/e9b376bcd5d4f9cc4bc275f091e4671a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on June 07, 2018, 10:13:46 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/263fa3d83138b8304060adc1eca66dbf.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 08, 2018, 12:57:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qy2oE22.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QB3tvaU.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 08, 2018, 06:35:38 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Borg on June 08, 2018, 09:38:05 PM
Any love for old Soldier?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/e9b376bcd5d4f9cc4bc275f091e4671a.jpg)


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Plenty love, beautiful  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on June 08, 2018, 11:25:44 PM
Gorgeous pieces!

I used to dismiss Wengers as sub-par SAKs as a kid... In the past few years I've seen them be much more beautiful and innovative than Vics. The love keeps growing and growing... As their numbers are.
Just got two more lovers today :D

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/e2e2467e4c0fd195fe782d75f6232f46.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/1a9a4a34695515591488aac0613c1937.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/3aeed4dcde99d86032b3f0773511cf16.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/ec12643aa5b18408b7f4df5d56b60333.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/9c994f7b2e9f7cf503c48c01371bf02a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/dfc3ee872b8945dd031e39fcea5e3db2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/d4a7c96c2d5301fcec1d613880644a84.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/cc5b4b1916c4b9d1c26f7639148ec593.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: shadowrider on June 09, 2018, 03:12:29 AM
Gorgeous pieces!

I used to dismiss Wengers as sub-par SAKs as a kid... In the past few years I've seen them be much more beautiful and innovative than Vics. The love keeps growing and growing... As their numbers are.
Just got two more lovers today :D

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/e2e2467e4c0fd195fe782d75f6232f46.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/1a9a4a34695515591488aac0613c1937.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/3aeed4dcde99d86032b3f0773511cf16.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/ec12643aa5b18408b7f4df5d56b60333.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/9c994f7b2e9f7cf503c48c01371bf02a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/dfc3ee872b8945dd031e39fcea5e3db2.jpg)
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Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on June 09, 2018, 03:18:25 AM


Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?

Metal. That is a bike chain tool. I have a plain one (not TDF) that I carry on my bike.

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on June 09, 2018, 08:36:51 AM


Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?

I believe its aluminum/aluminium. It may very well be an alloy but it's light.
Title: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on June 11, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
My professional Wengers are not so nice as Syem has but I like them (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180611/8834cebf87b3c20ce33079085eedf387.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180611/b73a02e22ba20e9fb481e023ac225f0f.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Syem on June 11, 2018, 09:07:32 PM
My professional Wengers are not so nice as Syem has but I like them (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180611/8834cebf87b3c20ce33079085eedf387.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180611/b73a02e22ba20e9fb481e023ac225f0f.jpg)


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Old blades on those bad boys!
You should post them on this topic (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=77646.0) :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: shadowrider on June 12, 2018, 05:36:25 PM


Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?

Metal. That is a bike chain tool. I have a plain one (not TDF) that I carry on my bike.

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Cool. Is the chain tool to be used in combination with the removable wrench?
I am thinking of byuing one that is in ok condition, but missing the wrench as they lost it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: AndyTiedye on June 12, 2018, 05:40:17 PM


Cool! Really digging that Tour de France one!
Is the allen wrench holder plastic or metal?

Metal. That is a bike chain tool. I have a plain one (not TDF) that I carry on my bike.

Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
Cool. Is the chain tool to be used in combination with the removable wrench?
I am thinking of byuing one that is in ok condition, but missing the wrench as they lost it.
Don't need the removable wrench to use the chain tool, but it is handy. It's a spoke wrench too.

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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 12, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
Couple of recent Wenger goodies.....Business Tool and Tactile 812 with clip point main blade.  Really impressed with the engineering on the Business Tool even though I read it may have been the last nail in the Wenger coffin.  For such a complicated little bugger, everything functions incredibly smooth.        :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 12, 2018, 06:49:49 PM
Nice  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 12, 2018, 07:00:38 PM
Thanks CeHo......... :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on June 13, 2018, 02:35:54 PM
Wengers, like statues, are pieces of art from the past built to last and produce joy for years and generations  :salute:

(https://i.imgur.com/tk88Omj.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 13, 2018, 09:05:18 PM
A bit of the philosopher in you.....  :tu:      :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on June 21, 2018, 03:57:50 PM
Here is one old beauty i've found this days. If anyone knows anything about it, please tell me. According to the tangstamp it should be 1907-1939.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 21, 2018, 05:45:30 PM
Cool
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 22, 2018, 03:45:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ePcBzrc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9stwFr7.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 22, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
 :like:
Linkshaender ist fantastisch!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 22, 2018, 03:56:05 PM
Danke Nick  :tu:

Du sprichst/schreibst ja deutsch  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 22, 2018, 04:01:29 PM
Danke Nick  :tu:
Bitte CeHo!  :cheers:

Du sprichst/schreibst ja deutsch  :cheers:
Nein, ich verstehe nur Bahnhof.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 22, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
Haha, dafür passt die Kommasetzung aber ganz gut...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 22, 2018, 04:14:30 PM
Thanks CeHo! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 22, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
Thanks CeHo! :cheers:

 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on June 22, 2018, 05:27:05 PM
Nice one CeHo  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 22, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
Thanks Deedee  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 25, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/memTShJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on June 25, 2018, 06:32:55 PM
I carried the Ranger Hunter today. We´re clearing some forest paths, mostly weed wacking, but some pruning of low branches too. The saw came in handy.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 25, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 26, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
Wenger Titanium Ueli Steck Edition and a box of my unsorted Wenger knives (still have no time to make photos of them :( ).

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 26, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
The titaniumline is very nice  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 26, 2018, 04:33:03 PM
The titaniumline is very nice 
Yes.  :cheers:
And Ueli Steck was a great climber.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 27, 2018, 02:37:29 AM
EVO Hunter 505 and Serrated Outdoorsman...... :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 27, 2018, 05:01:21 AM
 :tu: +1 on both accounts!
The titaniumline is very nice 
Yes.  :cheers:
And Ueli Steck was a great climber.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 27, 2018, 05:02:23 AM
 :like: Nice knives Boonies!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on June 27, 2018, 05:36:16 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 27, 2018, 05:46:52 AM
Thanks guys, I’m afraid I’ve fallen into the serrated blade trap and can’t get out.....oh well!   😜.       :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 27, 2018, 09:37:13 AM
EVO Hunter 505 and Serrated Outdoorsman...... :cheers:
:like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on June 27, 2018, 03:06:00 PM
Wenger Titanium Ueli Steck Edition and a box of my unsorted Wenger knives (still have no time to make photos of them :( ).
Looks great! :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on June 27, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
Looks great! :drool:
Thanks, jnoxyd!  :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on June 28, 2018, 07:58:53 AM
EVO Hunter 505 and Serrated Outdoorsman...... :cheers:
:like:

Thank you.... :cheers:

A couple of noisy ones.......😛

Survivor and Matterhorn (this one courtesy of Folder Beholder     :hatsoff:).     🍻
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 28, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
 :like: :like:and  :hatsoff: to FoBo!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on June 30, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Clip point bladed Cyclist :) (instead of the more common nail file)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21658.0;attach=379840)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 01, 2018, 12:18:31 AM
 :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 01, 2018, 02:45:36 PM
Very nice!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on July 01, 2018, 08:17:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8xEweVb.png)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on July 03, 2018, 10:01:12 PM
What size nuts does that wrench tool work on? Is it useful? I've never come across one in the wild, and was wondering if it's worth having.

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on July 04, 2018, 01:51:09 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/v9hvVQQ.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nix on July 04, 2018, 09:28:13 PM
El P just gifted me this awlsome Adventurer. I now have a three piece collection of Wengers!  :ahhh

(https://i.imgur.com/0PDVmwA.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on July 04, 2018, 09:47:58 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on July 04, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
El P just gifted me this awlsome Adventurer. I now have a three piece collection of Wengers!  :ahhh

(https://i.imgur.com/0PDVmwA.jpg)

I love them with those chains and rings  :dd:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 05, 2018, 03:18:52 AM
You can never have enough Wengers!  Here's a pic of my 81... love the Evo scales!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 05, 2018, 11:20:09 AM
A pair of Wenger Soft Touch.

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on July 05, 2018, 01:27:54 PM
A pair of Wenger Soft Touch.

gotta love those clip point blades.  :like:
Since my Wenger today has a snapped blade  :P I'm compensating with a CRKT Ripple 2, that has an awesome clip point blade  :cheers:

(https://i.imgur.com/tOS8XEk.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 05, 2018, 02:29:01 PM
gotta love those clip point blades.  :like:
Since my Wenger today has a snapped blade  :P I'm compensating with a CRKT Ripple 2, that has an awesome clip point blade  :cheers:

:salute: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Deedee on July 05, 2018, 03:03:40 PM
Lot of Wenger love today  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on July 05, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
A pair of Wenger Soft Touch.

Cool - I love the ST-Wengers
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 05, 2018, 04:07:06 PM
Cool - I love the ST-Wengers
Thanks, CeHo!  :cheers:
I like them too. But I am afraid the soft touch handles are not very wear-resistant.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on July 05, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
Lot of Wenger love today  :cheers:
Nice Three faces stamped old Wenger!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on July 06, 2018, 09:19:27 PM
Thanks, CeHo!  :cheers:
I like them too. But I am afraid the soft touch handles are not very wear-resistant.
I carry my ST14 quite a lot and it does resist to pocket wear, of course I didn't try to stratch it or roll it with keys

Nice pair BTW,
+ i'm quite impressed there were non evo st scaled wengers available at some point?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 06, 2018, 11:52:35 PM
I carry my ST14 quite a lot and it does resist to pocket wear, of course I didn't try to stratch it or roll it with keys
Thanks you for the information, m47mu74nt! It's a good news for me.

i'm quite impressed there were non evo st scaled wengers available at some point?
All good things are available in Switzerland, of course. ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 10, 2018, 02:38:28 PM
+ i'm quite impressed there were non evo st scaled wengers available at some point?
Oh, it's my fault. Shame on me. :(
Sorry; of course, this knife is not from the ST, but from the Tactile Series.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nix on July 12, 2018, 01:40:21 AM
Mrs Nix just couldn't understand why I went back to get another Esquire.....

(https://i.imgur.com/s7pk4E3.jpg)



"Uhhhhh..because this one is red."
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 12, 2018, 02:48:50 AM
I love my Handy. It's like a party in your pocket. :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nix on July 12, 2018, 06:08:59 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on July 13, 2018, 09:56:29 AM
I love my Handy. It's like a party in your pocket. :D

It's my son's favourite SAK in my collection - And the one he always borrows when he needs one!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ThePeacent on July 13, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
Mrs Nix just couldn't understand why I went back to get another Esquire.....

(https://i.imgur.com/s7pk4E3.jpg)



"Uhhhhh..because this one is red."


I got one on the way, red too  :cheers:
my excuse is that all other colors are heretic versions  :pommel:, so if I have a non red SAK, I must compensate for my sins and get a red one too   :SAKnight: :D
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nick4 on July 18, 2018, 10:38:31 PM
One more Wenger (probably, some kind of Biker, but I'm not sure):

Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 18, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Love the Traveler... it has awl the tools one would expect to find in a typical swiss army knife... thinner than the Climber and it's only about a mm thicker than a Compact
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on July 27, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
found another Aluminum scale Wenger...stay tuned for more photographs and a video by HOBIE on youtube once the restoration is done!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on July 27, 2018, 11:20:17 PM
found another Aluminum scale Wenger...stay tuned for more photographs and a video by HOBIE on youtube once the restoration is done!

 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: smiller43147 on July 28, 2018, 01:13:01 AM
Can't have too many Pocket Toolchests.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MacMahon on July 28, 2018, 04:36:56 PM
A friend just showed me this thread and i'm fascinated about many rare old Wenger knives that was showed here. What i didn't see is the frist Solider's Knife Wenger delivered to the Swiss Army, the Type 1901. Let me show this one:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gustophersmob on July 28, 2018, 05:40:04 PM
A friend just showed me this thread and i'm fascinated about many rare old Wenger knives that was showed here. What i didn't see is the frist Solider's Knife Wenger delivered to the Swiss Army, the Type 1901. Let me show this one:

Welcome to MTO!

I don't see the picture  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: MacMahon on July 28, 2018, 06:42:29 PM
Thanks gustophersmob. To start is sometimes not easy  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Mini on July 29, 2018, 10:44:36 PM
Welcome!
You started very well!  :tu:

A friend just showed me this thread and i'm fascinated about many rare old Wenger knives that was showed here. What i didn't see is the frist Solider's Knife Wenger delivered to the Swiss Army, the Type 1901. Let me show this one:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: zrxoa1 on July 31, 2018, 12:14:13 PM
I don’t know why, but lately I’ve been picking up several Wengers. I really have no desire for any other Vic’s, but the older Wengers are really catching my eye!!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180731/d24922f49e9533d7c8f233d2ace69d53.jpg)


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Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on July 31, 2018, 08:54:36 PM
I love the black scales
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nix on July 31, 2018, 10:53:39 PM
 :like:  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 02, 2018, 12:37:28 AM
You and me both!  I love all the great variations!!
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on August 03, 2018, 12:00:44 AM
120mm Ranger Grip 70, for your viewing pleasure.

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aloha on August 11, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
Nothing to add really other than I really like Wenger blade.  I think I can say I might just prefer it to Vics.   Not much of a fan of the can opener but I do like how they stow the T&T.   Any reason why Wenger uses the dangly chain with split ring?  I like it. 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on August 11, 2018, 08:25:13 PM
120mm Ranger Grip 70, for your viewing pleasure.

Charles.

Cool, Charles  :like:

I'm thinking about to focus more on Wenger-Ranger-models- i have 20 different models right now...
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: dkop1 on August 17, 2018, 04:45:12 PM
Just picked up this guy NIB 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on August 17, 2018, 06:51:46 PM
Great tool - i love the packaging
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Nix on August 17, 2018, 06:55:51 PM
 :like: 
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on August 17, 2018, 07:47:50 PM
Whistle while you work??  Not me, I’m retired......😛  From left to right......Survivor, Matterhorn (courtesy of FoBo) and the Whistle.  At the bottom is Vic’s version of the whistle, a bit morre compact but not as loud.  The Wengers are very loud and seem to scare everything; horses, cows, bulls, my dogs and cat, even the hummingbirds...... :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on August 17, 2018, 08:28:04 PM
Nice - I love the different whistle-models. Here in Europe the serrated versions are very hard to get.
I have the „survivor“ and the „whistle“ with the PE.

Cool stuff Boonies
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on August 17, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
Thanks CeHo.....I am enjoying the whistle models myself.  The serrated versions seems a little harder to find here too, but they are my favorite so I look for them.  I always make sure I have a serrated edge on me in one form or another.     :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Ron Who on August 17, 2018, 09:14:08 PM
So if the serrated blade doesn´t cut it you whistle for help?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on August 17, 2018, 09:18:10 PM
Yep, and if I use all 3 at the same time they can hear me at 3 times the distance right?  (Just trying to justify carrying all 3 at the same time........ :whistle:).      :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 20, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
my custom "Trail Guide" and its brothers  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: eTripper on August 21, 2018, 05:31:49 AM
I'm a Wenger fan, big-time!  Here's a pic of my Swiss Buck [Wenger], with my Boker Camp jack in stag.

(https://i.imgur.com/i6Dv0MVl.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on September 29, 2018, 05:42:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jFQCJCh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aWJInbA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2x1QmVe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BpUSSJs.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on October 04, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4gTg1q6.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on October 04, 2018, 02:21:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JACg225.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on October 04, 2018, 02:36:18 PM
Nice knives CeHo.  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on October 04, 2018, 02:40:11 PM
Thanks  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Aloha on October 04, 2018, 03:20:33 PM
I've been looking at Wenger again.  I have to say, I really prefer their blades to Vics.  I also find the cut out for the backside awl a much smarter design.  What I am not a fan of is their can opener.  Vic for me is the best.  I like how some omit the small blade in favor of the file. 

I've been taking a hard look at the Evo 88 after getting my Pocket Tool Chest.  The PTC is becoming a real favorite.  My only complaint is more blade and opener needed/wanted.  The Classic 16/Evo 16 looks like a good ones to try but that can opener. 

     
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on October 04, 2018, 04:39:45 PM
Victorinox - Wenger
Ford - Chevy
Smith & Wesson - Colt
No matter what it is...each has good points and some not so good points. In the end, when I will need it, it will be there. And will do the job better than I could without it.
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on October 04, 2018, 10:31:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4gTg1q6.jpg)

Nice........👍.     What is the 2nd one?
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: Boonies on October 04, 2018, 10:38:04 PM
I have fallen into the Wenger pit, the engineer in me likes all of the neat gadgets I think. 😛  They have lots of different serrated blades so that’s a big plus for me and the 85mm format is also nice.  The can opener is not quite as good, but it works.  I always have a Spirit with me so I use the can opener on it.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on October 29, 2018, 04:19:12 AM
Just found this blue PTC on CHEAP!  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: CeHo on October 29, 2018, 09:02:37 AM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for wenger?
Post by: gene stoner on October 30, 2018, 11:49:05 PM
Just found this blue PTC on CHEAP!  :tu:

 Very very very very cool!
 :like: :gimme:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: toolguy on October 31, 2018, 10:33:34 PM
My new Buck Trekker made by Wenger starting in 1992.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on October 31, 2018, 10:54:13 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on November 05, 2018, 05:19:46 PM
Nice wenger advertisement knife...
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on November 05, 2018, 06:06:59 PM
A very cool knife  :like:

Do you have more informations about it?
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on November 05, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
The knife is from the 1920s I would say. Carbon steel.
The front scale showns the TAHARA machine, built from wenger for polishing cutlery. The back shows the original wenger facility, located in delemont.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on November 05, 2018, 07:27:14 PM
Thanks - a very rare piece of SAK history  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on November 06, 2018, 12:10:51 AM
Very Cool  :tu: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Mini on November 09, 2018, 07:47:52 AM
Nice wenger advertisement knife...
Amazing sak!

Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 5 utilizzando Tapatalk

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 10, 2018, 05:38:53 PM
Nice wenger advertisement knife...
  :o  :like:
More pics with opened tools please!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wengercollector on November 10, 2018, 07:25:43 PM
Ok.
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Post by: Deedee on November 10, 2018, 09:38:47 PM
Ok.
That's realy nice looking vintage knife. Nice old wenger.  :cheers:
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Post by: pa_strunk on November 10, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on November 10, 2018, 11:32:41 PM
 :iagree:
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Post by: CeHo on November 16, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
I traded one of my two.

Now i have two again;

(https://i.imgur.com/zLS7wgT.jpg)
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Post by: Huntsman on November 17, 2018, 06:18:32 AM
@ wengercollector

That beautiful old Wenger has to be my faourite knife I have ever seen on this forum or ebay
It's lovely - So old, but in amazing condition, and full of history

Congrats 
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Post by: CeHo on November 17, 2018, 09:17:40 AM
Wenger Spotlight/Wenger Spotlight with scissors

(https://i.imgur.com/LvEWcL8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jzhhSfy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hsEAGAW.jpg)
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Post by: Rapidray on November 17, 2018, 06:33:49 PM
There logo’s on there knives...they come up with a lot of nice ones. Some I saw wanted to make me buy the knife just to have the logo. But I haven’t.
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Post by: CeHo on November 24, 2018, 07:02:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xxerSAt.jpg?1)
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Post by: CeHo on November 24, 2018, 07:03:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nxR3F4H.jpg?1)
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Post by: AndyTiedye on November 24, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
RangerGrip 90.
Vic should bring this model back.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181124/e5f10298788c22ad1d98c531181f70e8.jpg)

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Post by: CeHo on November 24, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
Nice one - I’m looking for that model for my ranger collection  :tu:

Cool stuff
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Post by: cody6268 on November 24, 2018, 09:55:54 PM
Wenger Spotlight/Wenger Spotlight with scissors

(https://i.imgur.com/LvEWcL8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jzhhSfy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hsEAGAW.jpg)

What an improvement we have today. A big layer, using what, AAA batteries? Today it's tiny (and somewhat expensive) coin cell batteries, and the flashlight is either a part of the scale, or in a tool that fits in the same slot as the magnifier.
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Post by: AndyTiedye on November 24, 2018, 09:58:13 PM
Actually that and the laser pointer models use AAAA batteries.

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Post by: m47mu74nt on November 25, 2018, 03:05:41 PM
And those AAAA aren't that easy to find !


____

here is a brush stainless traveler, but it doesn't have a serrated blade  ;)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on November 25, 2018, 03:19:53 PM
 :like:
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Post by: ChopperCharles on December 12, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
After carrying both, the Wenger just fits in my pocket better, so it's the one I usually take these days. I grew up with a Wenger knife but wanted to like the Victorinox more because of the better pliers and the larger blades... and I do love my Vic knives, but my go-to for daily carry is now a Swissbuck Taskmate II. It just fits in my pocket better than any Vic knife.

Charles.
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Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 05:03:56 PM
So many wonderful Wengers.  So much  :like:
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Post by: jnoxyd on December 13, 2018, 01:48:02 PM
Nice wenger advertisement knife...
Absolutely unique knife! Thank you for sharing  :tu:
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Post by: maxt on December 13, 2018, 08:27:57 PM
Both models called '710' (before Wenger switched to the new naming).
I suppose the age difference is about 10-15 years, to older one is 60s.
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Post by: sakwakky on December 13, 2018, 11:02:26 PM
I guess I should add a photo too

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Post by: sakwakky on December 13, 2018, 11:05:34 PM
and a close up of the black beauty

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Post by: FolderBeholder on December 13, 2018, 11:23:59 PM
I guess I should add a photo too
Wait, what?  :ahhh  :o  :like: :like: :like:
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on December 13, 2018, 11:28:14 PM
I guess I should add a photo too
Wait, what?  :ahhh  :o  :like: :like: :like:

+1

 :drool:
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Post by: VICMAN on December 13, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
I guess I should add a photo too

Nice collection sakwakky! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Post by: VICMAN on December 13, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
and a close up of the black beauty

Very cool SAK sakwakky! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 13, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
here is another gem...first shield wenger with ALUMINUM scales

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Post by: sakwakky on December 13, 2018, 11:46:48 PM
it is being restored now it will be ready in january
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Post by: Rapidray on December 14, 2018, 01:23:13 AM
and a close up of the black beauty
I was going to ask for more photo’s of that black beauty, but I see you went and did it! Well done. That is a very nice collection you have there!  :like: :hatsoff: :cheers:
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Post by: Nix on December 14, 2018, 03:15:05 AM
Great collection, sakwakky!   :like:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:23:59 AM
thank you gentlemen......plenty more where those came from!

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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:33:03 AM
small 82mm tahara came in two different shapes
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:36:08 AM
rare "master sportsman" with one sided file tool called the "snow or mud scraper"

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Post by: Rapidray on December 14, 2018, 04:40:50 AM
rare "master sportsman" with one sided file tool called the "snow or mud scraper"
A snow or mud scraper...thats very interesting. A very cool knife!  :like: :tu:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:43:09 AM
more wenger eye candy
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:46:32 AM
three faces
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:49:58 AM
farmer
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Post by: Rapidray on December 14, 2018, 04:50:46 AM
What type of time frame are these knives you have??? They are very nice.  :cheers:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:52:09 AM
another shot of the faux horn scale wenger
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 04:54:02 AM
and my latest acquisition
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Post by: Reinier on December 14, 2018, 07:27:24 AM
Wow sakwakky, so many beautiful Wengers :drool:
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Post by: CeHo on December 14, 2018, 09:37:23 AM
Really nice stuff  :iagree:
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Post by: maxt on December 14, 2018, 01:36:19 PM
rare "master sportsman" with one sided file tool called the "snow or mud scraper"

It looks new. Did you make any restoration or it came to you this way?
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
thanks guys.  my real name is Dave Arnold from Toronto, Canada...if you want to see videos of my collection there are a bunch of them on Hobie on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 02:15:25 PM
the Master Sportsman came that way it is like new!  some of my vintage knives have been restored by Hobie and you can see his before and after in the videos.  He also just did a video of four type 1890 soliders...two Forges L+C and two Elsener, and there is also a full video about the black fibre wenger
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 02:18:45 PM
coming soon he will have a video about the first shield black wenger, it should be arriving at his place today!
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
and here are three examples of Tahara with red celidor scales
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Post by: sakwakky on December 14, 2018, 02:27:48 PM
to answer your question...I have swiss army knives including wenger that go back to pre 1908 when they were "coutellerie suisse".  if you want some additional info about how to identify the age of any particular knife, feel free to email me d.arnold.gmg@gmail.com
the black wenger is from approx 1910 to about 1920.  Hobie talks about it in his video but we know this because of a few things like 1) carbon steel blades and tools 2) no cap lifter 3) the tang stamp and 4) birdseye rivets
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Post by: Aloha on December 14, 2018, 02:52:49 PM
 :hatsoff: WOW some really wonderful Wengers.  Thank you for sharing.   :salute:
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Post by: Gio on December 14, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
to answer your question...I have swiss army knives including wenger that go back to pre 1908 when they were "coutellerie suisse".  if you want some additional info about how to identify the age of any particular knife, feel free to email me d.arnold.gmg@gmail.com
the black wenger is from approx 1910 to about 1920.  Hobie talks about it in his video but we know this because of a few things like 1) carbon steel blades and tools 2) no cap lifter 3) the tang stamp and 4) birdseye rivets

Thank you!! :cheers:
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Post by: Rapidray on December 14, 2018, 03:57:36 PM
 :iagree:
Thank you for you answers on that black beauty...
Welcome to the forum for sure. I love that horn...wow!
 :cheers: :hatsoff:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 15, 2018, 08:43:40 PM
thanks guys

"Hobie Swiss Army" on youtube has about 40 videos he has done on knives from my collection, if you want a better look!
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Post by: SteveC on December 16, 2018, 05:45:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/keWydGrh.jpg)
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Post by: Rapidray on December 16, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
Nice  :like:
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Post by: Gio on December 16, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
We come from the land of the ice and snow...
Love my Viking!
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Post by: Nix on December 17, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
What a great SAK!   :like:
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Post by: Gio on December 17, 2018, 01:07:31 PM
What a great SAK!   :like:
:iagree: thank you!
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Post by: ivan_partizan on December 24, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
My latest Wenger. Buy it with out scales. Now I try to restore it.
As I know Tahara were issued from 1910 to 1949.
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Post by: CeHo on January 02, 2019, 09:35:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DNukScx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HwzLkqe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cUyl3zW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y4j3lbS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nm7wfXv.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/pvSOdYq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/625qZOw.jpg?1)
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Post by: Mechanickal on January 02, 2019, 09:41:01 PM
:sa:

:like:

:ahhh
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Post by: CeHo on January 02, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
Thanks Mech  :cheers:
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Post by: cody6268 on January 02, 2019, 11:47:53 PM
So, I guess all of Wenger's more specialty/rarely used tools didn't carry over (which is almost countless)? I'd love for them to make a Delemont version of the Swiss Sportsman with its flat Phillips. Wenger's serrated "double hook" can openers always get stuck for me.
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Post by: Rapidray on January 03, 2019, 12:01:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DNukScx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HwzLkqe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cUyl3zW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y4j3lbS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nm7wfXv.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/pvSOdYq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/625qZOw.jpg?1)

Very nice collection you have there.  :like: :tu:
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on January 03, 2019, 09:42:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DNukScx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HwzLkqe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cUyl3zW.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y4j3lbS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Nm7wfXv.jpg?1)

(https://i.imgur.com/pvSOdYq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/625qZOw.jpg?1)

Very nice collection you have there.  :like: :tu:

:iagree:

Saw one or two these past years, but all of them together ...  :sa:
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Post by: CeHo on January 03, 2019, 10:36:33 PM
Thanks my friend  :cheers:
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on January 03, 2019, 11:21:31 PM
Thanks my friend  :cheers:
:salute:

Got myself some "new" Wenger stuff as well today  :D.

(https://i.imgur.com/oCgA94j.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jrpZlPs.jpg)

More on this can be found here (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,80203.msg1843712.html#msg1843712).
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Post by: CeHo on January 04, 2019, 12:17:03 AM
Very cool stuff - I love the pocket grip with the cool packaging :tu:

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Post by: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 12:46:26 AM
Yes, you did great!  :like: :tu:
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Post by: eTripper on January 04, 2019, 03:41:08 AM
My Wenger Evo is always at the top o' the pile.

(https://i.imgur.com/l3qLXc6l.jpg)
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Post by: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 04:06:19 AM
My Wenger Evo is always at the top o' the pile.

(https://i.imgur.com/l3qLXc6l.jpg)
Nice selection you have there!  :tu: :like:
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Post by: CeHo on January 04, 2019, 09:01:50 AM
My Wenger Evo is always at the top o' the pile.

(https://i.imgur.com/l3qLXc6l.jpg)

 :tu:
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Post by: Gath on January 04, 2019, 09:57:24 PM
Nice pics, My Matterhorn Plus has been out for a couple months, kinda hope it's make it back to make an appearance on the SwissChamp challenge.
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Post by: eTripper on January 05, 2019, 12:51:14 AM
Wenger made the cut, for today's EDC:

(https://i.imgur.com/AxkLTPZl.jpg)
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Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 01:18:33 AM
Yeay  :tu:
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Post by: eTripper on January 05, 2019, 01:36:14 AM
Thanks! :hatsoff:
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Post by: Rapidray on January 05, 2019, 01:46:08 AM
Thanks! :hatsoff:
:cheers:
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Post by: chregu on February 23, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
Hello everybody
I want to introduce you to the new addition to my collection.
Wenger & Cie
Liner is aluminum, also the pins.
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Post by: chregu on February 23, 2019, 05:05:28 PM
I would like to know more about Wenger & Cie
anyone have an idea of when to when this brand was used?
at the Army Knife Wenger & Co circa 1914 - 1917
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Post by: CeHo on February 23, 2019, 08:28:25 PM
Nice one  :tu:

Sorry, I don’t collect older Multitools...
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Post by: sakwakky on April 02, 2019, 09:57:00 PM
a few of the favourite Wenger in my collection
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Post by: sakwakky on April 02, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
a few more
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Post by: sakwakky on April 02, 2019, 10:01:43 PM
3 more
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Post by: sakwakky on April 02, 2019, 10:05:17 PM
and a few videos also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCsuuZhZqcM&list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY&index=36&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN1K1n08gls&list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY&index=44&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnf6xYF8MBI&list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY&index=49&t=38s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN9IThNqRVA&list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY&index=11&t=194s
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Post by: CeHo on April 02, 2019, 10:39:47 PM
Hey, that is great stuff  :like:

You have love for Wenger!
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Post by: Thunderpants on April 03, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
Wow! I am so unfamiliar with those old Wengers that if I saw one on ebay I wouldn't know what it was.
Cool collection!

The crossbow emblem is pretty badass!
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Post by: sakwakky on April 03, 2019, 12:32:51 PM
thank you!  I think I have 8 of these original first shield Wenger in my collection now, and I only found ONE of them on eBay!  it has ALUMINUM scales and it will be featured on that same youtube channel later this week...I will post the link when the video is put up
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Post by: sakwakky on April 03, 2019, 12:34:18 PM
there were also Victorinox knives with a crossbow shield have you seen one of those?
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Post by: Huntsman on April 04, 2019, 12:35:44 AM
Just catching up with this thread after a little while

Great posts - Bur particularly from Sakwakky - Thanks so much for those and welcome to the forum   :D

Watched a couple of Hobie videos - Fantastic
- I think I had seen one of his vids before - really nice - he has a lovely way about him   :tu: And so informative

Yep you gotta love Wenger - I miss them  !
I knew about lots of their modern inovations - But I never knew about the older ones -
Eg They invented the SD/CO and were the first to use stainless steel in a SAK! - Wow

It's funny - You think you know a bit about SAKs, then you see a Hobie video, or a post from JazzBass, or Coloswiss (RIP), or SAK Guy, or Sakwakky, and many others here on the forum, and you realise you know nothing!!
Certainly my knowledge, and indeed even that in SAKWiki - Is pretty good after say 1950 - But before that, it's pretty non existent.
And of course the older time period is the really cool intersting stuff - So these posts, videos etc etc are really appreciated

Thanks again for all the posts folks   
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Post by: sakwakky on April 06, 2019, 12:51:04 AM
ok....this one is hot off the presses!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6UGnjekKQ&t=416s
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 21, 2019, 06:21:17 PM
What I really appreciate about Wenger is the wide variety of weird tools that could be gotten. I mean, Victorinox did an "inline skate" knife, which was just a normal knife with some fancy scales and a separate special tool. Wenger went all out, and created a one-off knife with a removable wrench and an allen driver on the backspring, with a snap shackle and screwdriver. There are lots of cool designs like that. Footballer came with a cleat wrench. Victorinox never did cool stuff like that.

But what I like most in day-to-day usage is the few Wengers that came with clip-point blades. (Swiss Bucks, mostly) For some reason, I just find them a lot more pleasant to use than the regular blade. I also really dig Wenger's blade locking mechanism.

Charles.
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Post by: smiller43147 on May 21, 2019, 07:39:57 PM
While I generally consider myself a Vic/LM fan, I do like the 1, 2 and even 3 layer Wenger's.  Just a nice size, and I like that the back springs are all flush and smooth.  Combine that with a phillips, and you have a tool that's a delight in the hand.
Here's one of my favorites: a Highlander.
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Post by: Barry Rowland on May 21, 2019, 08:01:34 PM
Mine too! :tu:
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Post by: CeHo on May 21, 2019, 09:01:38 PM
 :like:
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Post by: eTripper on May 21, 2019, 10:45:08 PM
Wengers rock!

(https://i.imgur.com/05tc2kD.jpg)
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Post by: ChopperCharles on May 22, 2019, 05:51:23 AM
I really enjoy using this one.

Charles.
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Post by: eTripper on May 22, 2019, 10:30:37 PM
I really enjoy using this one.

Charles.

Nice SwissBuck CC!!
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Post by: Barry Rowland on May 22, 2019, 10:32:09 PM
 :iagree: !!
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Post by: Buzzbait on June 03, 2019, 05:28:24 AM
I’d forgotten I had these, and stumbled upon them this evening. I got them at a job lot store, years back, for something like $5.00 each. At that price, I couldn’t pass them up. One is your basic Handyman. The other is a plain edge Safari with locking blade. The Safari pretty sweet.

(https://i.imgur.com/yeA8upxh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6bHF5Och.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vqUjlL2h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zykFkUah.jpg)
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Post by: Aloha on June 03, 2019, 03:06:09 PM
Nice Wengers  :tu:. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Reece Turner on June 07, 2019, 01:28:01 PM
My first ever knife was a Wenger Evo s10, so I have a lot of love for Wenger. It was very unfortunate when their knives were discontinued. At least there's Victorinox's Delémont collection, which has a lot of Wenger's designs.
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Post by: Ivo on June 07, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
I love these Wenger pics and video's  :like:
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Post by: zrxoa1 on June 08, 2019, 10:01:45 AM
Got this in the mail today...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190608/4f89b876db44456e271f2067a4facb9e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190608/a6523549cbb7ccfd116c63f2d52ae5f2.jpg)


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Post by: theonew on June 08, 2019, 07:37:36 PM
Very cool looking Wenger zrxoa1 :tu:

This came today. May have to test it out tonight at the local cigar bar :D

(https://i.imgur.com/2nI1ne2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J8XBpCP.jpg)
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Post by: CeHo on June 09, 2019, 09:40:09 PM
Great stuff guys  :like:
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Post by: Barry Rowland on July 26, 2019, 02:44:14 PM
My Traveler.  The longer I go, the more love I have for Wenger!
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Post by: CeHo on July 26, 2019, 08:41:56 PM
Nice Barry  :like:
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Post by: Blackbeard on August 02, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
I was at my brothers house and was looking at a Wenger Zermatt I gave him, I noticed the main blade and pen blade springs are not very good, especially the main blade which seems to have some sort of moving cam on the pivot on the scale side(which sometimes moves and sometimes doesn' when opening and closing blade)

But the snap is just poor and really need to give it a push to close it and rocks a bit when open, anything I can do to make it better? To be honest I don't think he cares too much, not a knife nut like us, but I gave as a present and the action is extremely crappy, I doubt he has even used it in the years since I gave it to him, only thing I can think of is maybe it was dropped, but I cant seem to figure out what is going on without taking it apart, and since its discontinued not even sure Vic can do anything or would since it's a Wenger, but it was pretty much new when I gave it to him.
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Post by: Blackbeard on August 04, 2019, 10:03:55 AM
Hmm, only info I found was a thread here with someone who had the same issue with this model, I would avoid it if anyone had interest in getting one. From what I can find on vics site, I think they will warranty Wengers, but I would assume they would send a replacement, I'm guessing some evo model with similar toolset.
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Post by: jnoxyd on August 05, 2019, 09:27:50 AM
Any love for old soldiers?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190805/15fde9c5f46f7cdea6ccabf02bdace16.jpg)
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Post by: Aloha on August 05, 2019, 03:25:12 PM
 :dd:
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Post by: Aloha on August 05, 2019, 03:29:09 PM
I am carrying Wengers more and more.  I have a PTC on ball chain tho I also carry it in my 5th pocket of jeans.  These 3 are carried a lot.  My Cyclist is carried everyday for work. 
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Post by: Mini on August 05, 2019, 08:21:57 PM
 :like:
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Post by: Max Stone on August 05, 2019, 08:28:33 PM
Any love for old soldiers?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190805/15fde9c5f46f7cdea6ccabf02bdace16.jpg)
Yes please  :like:
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Post by: ChopperCharles on August 06, 2019, 03:06:00 AM
Is there a minigrip club? I’m thinking I’d like to carry mine occasionally and want some motivation and of course pics!

Charles.
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Post by: Barry Rowland on August 06, 2019, 06:44:45 AM
How is that Cyclist working for you Aloha?
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Post by: Aloha on August 06, 2019, 02:40:27 PM
Its been great.  The wrench has come into play which was nice.  While not the widest it worked great on the smaller of bolts.  Over all its a very nice SAK.  The inline phillips is terrific and I've always like the belly on Wengers blades. 
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Post by: ChopperCharles on August 06, 2019, 03:07:38 PM
What’s the max metric bolt size that wrench can handle?

Charles.
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Post by: Max Stone on August 06, 2019, 05:56:50 PM
Don’t have bolts to test, but I’d say around 15mm with the pliers shifted to the open position and maybe 7mm on the wrench.
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Post by: ChopperCharles on August 06, 2019, 06:08:24 PM
Hrm. I’ve avoided models with the Wrench because i thought it probably wasn’t big enough for even an 8mm bolt head. That’s the smallest size on a motorcycle, usually. But if it could actually do 8mm I might pick one up. Pic shows that as a definite maybe...

AND a bit of work with a file could perhaps make it work with 10mm bolts. So I may pick one up for mod fodder after all.

Charles.
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Post by: Max Stone on August 06, 2019, 07:09:42 PM
Worth experimenting Charles. Look fwd to seeing the mod  :cheers:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 11, 2019, 10:08:48 PM
latest family photo
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Post by: sakwakky on August 11, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
i just found and bought a next generation aluminum wenger, with the crossbow shield.  here they are side by side, and this proves that they continued this model into the next variation.  noteworthy that the cross bow shield example has a cap lifter (the original does not), and the outer aluminum scales are approx twice the thickness of the original, and it has a nickel silver spacer instead of the aluminum one in the original

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Post by: Max Stone on August 11, 2019, 10:58:14 PM
latest family photo
That’s an impressive family sakwakky.  :like:

Must have taken some time to assemble.
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Post by: sakwakky on August 12, 2019, 12:03:39 AM
thank you.  a couple more are on the way I will post another photo when they arrive.

Dave Arnold
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Post by: Aloha on August 12, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
Max thank you for posting the wrench pics  :tu:. 
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Post by: Aloha on August 12, 2019, 04:12:08 PM
Very impressive collection sakwakky  :hatsoff:
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Post by: Max Stone on August 12, 2019, 04:19:27 PM
Max thank you for posting the wrench pics  :tu:.
Thanks Aloha  :hatsoff:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 12, 2019, 04:33:55 PM
thank you

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Post by: Max Stone on August 12, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
Some real history there sakwakky!  :like:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 12, 2019, 04:56:50 PM
thank you!  I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of this addition to my Wenger family

I will take some more shots when it gets here!
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Post by: Max Stone on August 12, 2019, 04:58:55 PM
Have you been able to date some of them sakwakky? I’m no expert on vintage Wengers, but some look really old.  :think:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 12, 2019, 05:14:11 PM
yes the Wenger officer knives (one aluminum and two with black scales) date from 1910 to the mid 20s.  we know this from their tang stamp and the lack of a cap lifter in the screwdriver.

the black soldier knives are all type 1890 so they are all from 1890 to 1901

the Rothlisberger soldier knife is a 57 (they only made them in either 56 or 57 and it is stamped on the reverse of the tang)

the red Erinox officer knife by Rothlisberger is from the mid 50s, and the crossbow shield Victorinox appears in the 1942 Catalogue.  It is an interesting knife because if you think about Switzerland in 1942 it was completely surrounded by the Germans and many Jewish refugees took shelter inside Switzerland during the war.  This might explain why this was the only time that Victorinox thought there was a market for a version of their officer knife which did NOT have a cross on it.  Complete speculation, and of course Wenger used a crossbow shield on and off through many different designs, but this was the only time that Victorinox did so

 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on August 12, 2019, 05:16:27 PM
 :hatsoff: I'll add spectacular to my earlier acknowledgement of your collection. 
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Post by: sakwakky on August 12, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
thanks Aloha.  I am currently writing a book and it will have plenty of pictures.  stay tuned
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Post by: Ron Who on August 12, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
Some very nice old junk vintage stuff in here  :like:
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Post by: Max Stone on August 12, 2019, 08:50:36 PM
Fantastic info sakwakky, especially the war-era SAKs.  :salute:

Please keep us updated on the book!  :popcorn:
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Post by: Ivo on August 13, 2019, 09:42:34 AM
WOW thats a very nice collection sakwakky  :drool: :drool: :drool: :like:
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Post by: Ivo on August 13, 2019, 10:42:51 AM
Here are some of my big WENGER's.
I love the Wenger logo button to unlock the main blade after they changed the slide lock. :hatsoff:
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Post by: Ivo on August 13, 2019, 10:43:46 AM
Just arrived, 25 Wenger stands  :hatsoff:
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Post by: Max Stone on August 13, 2019, 02:10:01 PM
Nice Ivo  :like:
Now you just need 25 Wengers.  :whistle:
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Post by: Ivo on August 13, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Thanks Max , I showed only the big Wengers, I have around 100 normal Wengers to.  :hatsoff:
I will show them when I'm finished with my next storage box.
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Post by: Max Stone on August 13, 2019, 02:59:08 PM
 :drool:  :popcorn: can’t wait to see all those! Sounds like a great collection Ivo.
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Post by: Ivo on August 13, 2019, 03:01:38 PM
I'm painting a new storage box Max, when it is done I fill it with my WENGER's  :hatsoff:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 16, 2019, 02:42:53 AM
this week I thought I would share a couple examples of the Master Sportsman, with the unusual "snow or mud scraper" tool for use on your skiis!

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Post by: Ivo on August 16, 2019, 09:27:04 AM
OOOH  :drool: they are very very nice  :drool: :like:
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Post by: Ivo on August 16, 2019, 09:28:19 AM
These are my Wenger drawers  :hatsoff:
Only the smaller once are missing here.
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Post by: Max Stone on August 16, 2019, 01:15:48 PM
“...Oh, I thought I asked that you must show me your SOCK draw?”  :facepalm:
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Post by: sakwakky on August 16, 2019, 01:22:41 PM
well, if todays theme is drawers....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMbbKIPjK_4&list=PLmtCpKAaOGqw4hFNWN0vx71lc5eR3qdRY&index=2&t=8s
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Post by: Barry Rowland on August 16, 2019, 02:28:03 PM
 :drool: :drool:
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Post by: Max Stone on August 16, 2019, 04:28:48 PM
 :drool:  :iagree:
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Post by: CeHo on August 16, 2019, 07:36:00 PM
Just arrived, 25 Wenger stands  :hatsoff:

Wow that’s great stuff - I love the stands and the Rangers.
I only have LM stands...
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Post by: Ivo on August 16, 2019, 08:06:48 PM
That is an awesome collection  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Post by: Mini on August 16, 2019, 10:13:31 PM
this week I thought I would share a couple examples of the Master Sportsman, with the unusual "snow or mud scraper" tool for use on your skiis!

Very interesting!
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Post by: sakwakky on August 16, 2019, 10:18:01 PM
arrived today, 3 layer first shield Wenger with aluminum scales.  it needs some work but everything is there and everything snaps

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Post by: sakwakky on August 16, 2019, 10:22:35 PM
it was known as the model 504A (A for aluminum)

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Post by: sakwakky on August 18, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
WARNING :  this knife is NOT a Wenger

I see it time and time again, and there is one listed now on eBay for $900...and sellers often try to pass this knife off as a vintage Wenger....but it is NOT A WENGER.  I am fortunate enough to own two of the first shield Wenger with aluminum scales that these sellers want you to think their knife is the same as (but its not)....so I bought one...just to show them side by side.  you will notice many differences, including 1)  the overall shape of the knife is different, 2) the shield is different, 3) it doesn't have the tang stamp, 4) it has JTR etched in the blade (that is in fact the name of the french manufacturer of this knife), 5) it has a cap lifter instead of a solid screwdriver like the originals

so dont be fooled by sellers like the current listing on eBay by "zippythings39"...this knife is not original Wenger and certainly not worth anywhere close to $900.  I paid a lot less than that for both of my ACTUAL Wenger examples

the proof is in the pictures
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Post by: Ivo on August 19, 2019, 06:57:39 PM
arrived today, 3 layer first shield Wenger with aluminum scales.  it needs some work but everything is there and everything snaps

WOW they are very nice , I never saw these  :drool: :drool: :drool: :like:
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Post by: ulli on August 19, 2019, 07:42:29 PM
wenger aluminium
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Post by: Intorikata on August 19, 2019, 08:58:22 PM
Technically a Wenger, right?
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Post by: sakwakky on August 19, 2019, 11:35:39 PM
nice photos gentlemen!

and Ulli do you still have all five of these?  I would love to see more photos!
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Post by: Gath on August 20, 2019, 09:05:54 PM
this week I thought I would share a couple examples of the Master Sportsman, with the unusual "snow or mud scraper" tool for use on your skiis!


Nice knife, and unlike some special tools seems to have quite a practical tool set all around, nor is a scraper with a file a super speSmurfpillsed tool or take huge amounts of room, I could actually see that knife as an excellent option for outdoors even today.
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Post by: Sos24 on August 20, 2019, 11:49:46 PM
Technically a Wenger, right?
Nice one.  I have one SwissBuck and really like it.
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Post by: sakwakky on September 16, 2019, 10:23:45 PM
13 first shield Wenger
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Post by: jnoxyd on September 16, 2019, 10:47:48 PM
 :like: :like: :like:
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Post by: sakwakky on September 16, 2019, 10:56:33 PM
Nice to meet you Jnoxyd   we seem to bid against each other on Ricardo often

Dave Arnold, Toronto
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Post by: eTripper on September 17, 2019, 01:57:22 AM
Wenger Evo has an honored place in the collection. :D

(https://i.imgur.com/QF1QDWP.jpg)
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Post by: Rapidray on September 17, 2019, 03:36:54 AM
Wenger Evo has an honored place in the collection. :D

(https://i.imgur.com/QF1QDWP.jpg)
Very nice Evo  :like: :rofl: :tu:
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Post by: Aloha on September 21, 2019, 06:34:09 PM
There is so much to  :like:.  sakwakky Thank You for posting about the non SAK.  I hope this helps those lookin got the auction site or where they go for old SAKs.  Your posts and collection are terrific. 

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on September 21, 2019, 06:38:27 PM
I'm still very much a Vic user however these Wengers get a lot of carry time.  I am really bummed I didn't get on board sooner. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on September 21, 2019, 08:18:12 PM
I'm still very much a Vic user however these Wengers get a lot of carry time.  I am really bummed I didn't get on board sooner.
Nice collection you have there!  :tu:
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Post by: sakwakky on November 14, 2019, 03:36:02 AM
three Horn scaled Wenger...circa 1910, 1950, and 2000
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Post by: Ivo on November 14, 2019, 09:17:20 AM
Great SAK's sakwakky  :drool: :drool: :drool: :like:
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Post by: Ivo on November 14, 2019, 09:22:03 AM
Some of my WENGER oldies  :hatsoff:
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Post by: VICMAN on November 14, 2019, 01:37:37 PM
three Horn scaled Wenger...circa 1910, 1950, and 2000

Very nice sakwakky! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Post by: VICMAN on November 14, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
Some of my WENGER oldies  :hatsoff:

Nice collection Ivo! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Post by: Ivo on November 14, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
Thanks VICMAN  :cheers:
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Post by: Rapidray on November 14, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
Some of my WENGER oldies  :hatsoff:
Is the shorter Soldier a “56?
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Post by: sakwakky on November 14, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
thanks guys.  here is a closer look at the three faces horn scaled wenger...a short video done by the guy who refurbished it for me...check out that SNAP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRDiWDVcvFQ&t=18s
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Post by: Ivo on November 14, 2019, 03:51:11 PM
Is the shorter Soldier a “56?

I made a mistake , bottom row right is not a WENGER but a Vic ELSENER and it is from end '40s I guess.  :hatsoff:
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Post by: Rapidray on November 14, 2019, 03:55:24 PM
thanks guys.  here is a closer look at the three faces horn scaled wenger...a short video done by the guy who refurbished it for me...check out that SNAP!
That is just beautiful  :drool  :cheers:
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Post by: Ivo on November 14, 2019, 04:00:01 PM
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :iagree: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Post by: m47mu74nt on November 14, 2019, 06:31:19 PM
Wenger SI out for a ride ... not the best weather though!
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Post by: Barry Rowland on November 14, 2019, 06:58:09 PM
Nice SI...that weather doesn't look pleasant.
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Post by: m47mu74nt on November 14, 2019, 07:08:07 PM
Nice SI...that weather doesn't look pleasant.

Raining like hell here... and snowing ... like everywhere else in the region  :twak:
gonna go find some snow tomorrow  :angel:
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Post by: Rapidray on November 14, 2019, 10:56:46 PM
Wenger SI out for a ride ... not the best weather though!
:like: :tu:
Hope you got some hiking in!  :cheers:
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Post by: Aloha on November 15, 2019, 05:43:19 AM
That is just beautiful  :drool  :cheers:

 :iagree:

That SNAP!  Great work on that SAK. 
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Post by: m47mu74nt on November 15, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Raining like hell here... and snowing ... like everywhere else in the region  :twak:
gonna go find some snow tomorrow  :angel:

Finally found snow on one side, and sun on the other
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on November 16, 2019, 12:41:48 AM
Some of my WENGER oldies  :hatsoff:

Well, someone's been busy...  :sa:

Those were not in your collection when you showed it to me (when I came to pick up those Sideclips).  I'm sure I would've noticed them (read: tried to grab one and tried to make it to the door...  :D).

I really need to find myself one of those old style Vic or Wenger Soldiers, if you happen to find one for a reasonable price that you're not going to buy yourself, let me know will you?
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Post by: Rapidray on November 16, 2019, 01:58:52 AM
Finally found snow on one side, and sun on the other
Great knife and photo’s!  :tu: :cheers:
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on November 16, 2019, 02:00:14 AM
Great knife and photo’s!  :tu: :cheers:

 :iagree:

 :like:
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Post by: Ivo on November 16, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
Thanks TG  :cheers:

I see them quiet often on ebay  :tu:
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Post by: sakwakky on December 11, 2019, 03:33:02 AM
mother of pearl Tahara with mechanical clock

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Post by: Rapidray on December 11, 2019, 03:53:31 AM
I like that mechanical watch model!  :cheers:
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Post by: xfile on December 11, 2019, 06:27:29 AM
mother of pearl Tahara with mechanical clock

Wow, this is a holy grail. Is there a picture of the  tang stamp?
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Post by: sakwakky on December 11, 2019, 06:32:12 AM
WENGER
TAHARA
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Post by: sakwakky on December 11, 2019, 06:39:55 AM
and I have removed the clock to have it serviced

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Post by: Mechanickal on December 11, 2019, 07:12:39 AM
I'm curious to know who made the movement.

Any small stamp under the escapement?
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Post by: xfile on December 11, 2019, 07:15:25 AM
and I have removed the clock to have it serviced

It's amazing! First time I saw this, thank you for the picture,Sakwakky :salute:
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Post by: Nick4 on December 11, 2019, 10:07:17 AM
It's amazing! First time I saw this, thank you for the picture,Sakwakky :salute:
:iagree:   :like: :drool:  Very interesting model. Thank you for sharing, Sakwakky!
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Post by: sakwakky on December 11, 2019, 02:45:46 PM
my pleasure gentlemen!  and to answer your question Mechanickal, I could not see any makers mark, I was also looking for one, but I have asked my watch repair guy to try to figure out what the movement is and who it was made by.  On first glance his only comment was that it was "definitely Swiss".  he also said that it looked like the same movement he had serviced once or twice before from a clock that was in a ring for your finger.  Ive never seen one of these but apparently they were also a rare trend once upon a time.

also, I am going to be launching a youtube channel in the new year to show some of my rarest Wenger, Victorinox and Rothlisberger knives. 

I will post a video here when it starts

Dave Arnold
Toronto, Canada
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Post by: Rapidray on December 11, 2019, 03:53:42 PM
Definitely on the cleaning. And it looks all Swiss made!  :like: :cheers:
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Post by: Mechanickal on December 13, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
Just read your reply.

All I can say for now is...

:popcorn:
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Post by: xfile on December 18, 2019, 09:07:26 AM
These Wenger tools were collected by a friend of mine :climber:
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on December 18, 2019, 09:54:41 AM
These last pages show exactly why I love Wenger so much, the brand itself has been gone for several years but still I see stuff popping up that I didn't even know it existed.

I miss their "let's just make it" mentality, at times it seems as if the designers there were just a bunch of SAK freaks like us, throwing ideas around the room about what could or should be in their next SAK, and then just go for it.

I guess the "playing it safe" strategy from Victorinox did work out in the end...
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Post by: Ivo on December 18, 2019, 10:06:00 AM
I can't  agree more  :hatsoff: :tu:
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Post by: comis on December 18, 2019, 11:15:27 AM
These last pages show exactly why I love Wenger so much, the brand itself has been gone for several years but still I see stuff popping up that I didn't even know it existed.

I miss their "let's just make it" mentality, at times it seems as if the designers there were just a bunch of SAK freaks like us, throwing ideas around the room about what could or should be in their next SAK, and then just go for it.

I guess the "playing it safe" strategy from Victorinox did work out in the end...

I can't  agree more  :hatsoff: :tu:
:iagree:


I often think of Victorinox and Wenger are like two sister, where the big sister is more conservative and 'playing it safe', the younger sister is more adventurous and probably lived a more colorful life. :D
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Post by: Top-Gear-24 on December 18, 2019, 11:27:06 AM
:iagree:


I often think of Victorinox and Wenger are like two sister, where the big sister is more conservative and 'playing it safe', the younger sister is more adventurous and probably lived a more colorful life. :D

Be it a shorter one...

Sadly enough  :cry:
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Post by: Ivo on December 18, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
So true  :iagree: :cheers:
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Post by: Rapidray on December 18, 2019, 03:45:26 PM
These Wenger tools were collected by a friend of mine :climber:
Your friend has a nice collection there  :tu:
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Post by: Aloha on December 18, 2019, 04:38:31 PM
:iagree:


I often think of Victorinox and Wenger are like two sister, where the big sister is more conservative and 'playing it safe', the younger sister is more adventurous and probably lived a more colorful life. :D

 :iagree:

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Post by: toolguy on December 22, 2019, 05:26:13 AM
SwissBuck Fishtale.
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Post by: Rapidray on December 22, 2019, 05:28:27 AM
SwissBuck Fishtale.
Nice  :like: :cheers:
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Post by: sakwakky on January 06, 2020, 01:37:19 AM
the blade replacement is completed on the crossbow shield ALUMINUM Wenger, and we wanted to be certain that the replacement blade I found matched the original blade, even down to being carbon steel.  in this video Will Jones shows how he made sure, and we are going to keep the original blade with the knife, and they will stay together if and when I ever sell it.  Its a rare knife to be certain.  I have 3 examples of this knife with the earlier shield, and I am aware of other collectors with 8 other examples with the first shield...but this is the only one I have ever seen with the 2nd (crossbow) shield.  worth noting is that the aluminum scales are twice as thick on this generation as they were on the original shield examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3T3GWz0Yx4&t=3s
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Post by: sakwakky on January 06, 2020, 01:39:45 AM
and while you are on Will's youtube channel, check out the job he did on my four layer MOP celluloid Wenger (small blade was replaced)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QAZc85p_PI&t=54s
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 06, 2020, 01:22:15 PM
 :tu: Thats some really nice work there. Great Wengers.   
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on January 06, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
thank you, and one more recent acquisition, a WENGER & CIE from 1914 with engraved scales to commemorate the alliance between England, France, Russia and Belgium.  Featuring (from left to right on the front scale):  King George V of England, Prime Minister Raymon Poincare of France, Emperor Nicholas II of Russia (who was executed in his own country 1918 after his exile in England was revoked by George V in 1917)

On the back scale is King Albert of Belgium


Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on January 06, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
thank you, and one more recent acquisition, a WENGER & CIE from 1914 with engraved scales to commemorate the alliance between England, France, Russia and Belgium.  Featuring (from left to right on the front scale):  King George V of England, Prime Minister Raymon Poincare of France, Emperor Nicholas II of Russia (who was executed in his own country 1918 after his exile in England was revoked by George V in 1917)

On the back scale is King Albert of Belgium
Oh boy, that is a nice piece of history!  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on January 06, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
Oh boy, that is a nice piece of history!  :like: :cheers:

 :iagree:

Great knife and love the history behind it  :tu:.

So, one of the people shown on the knife royally scr*wed over one of the others...
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on January 06, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
thats the perfect word..."royally"!

its a sad story though, because he was executed with his wife and five small children
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on January 31, 2020, 02:23:51 PM
Today find, for 10$ :cheers:
Too bad that small blade is broken.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on January 31, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
Nice  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 31, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
 :like: Looks like the previous owner/s enjoyed using it. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on January 31, 2020, 03:19:27 PM
Thanks.  Blade need some polishing, but at least springs and other tools are OK. :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Gath on February 02, 2020, 08:53:40 PM
mother of pearl Tahara with mechanical clock


Got a bit more pedestrian knife and timepiece on the way, still hyped though.

(https://i.imgur.com/ksozgZH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hcg1R7X.jpg)

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 03, 2020, 12:08:50 AM
WOW that sheath/case is AMAZING.  Congrats.  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on February 03, 2020, 12:14:57 AM

Got a bit more pedestrian knife and timepiece on the way, still hyped though.

(https://i.imgur.com/ksozgZH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/hcg1R7X.jpg)
Nice  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on February 03, 2020, 04:44:50 AM
looking good gentlemen

Ive been sorting out a few from the Wenger drawer thought you might enjoy a look-see

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on February 03, 2020, 04:52:39 AM
looking good gentlemen

Ive been sorting out a few from the Wenger drawer thought you might enjoy a look-see
Oh boy, thats a great collection you have there!   :cheers: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on February 03, 2020, 04:58:37 AM
thank you.  I have a bunch more rare gems on their way I will show them once they arrive
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on February 03, 2020, 02:35:20 PM
Looking forward to you posting them!  :cheers: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 03, 2020, 03:35:49 PM
 :dd:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Ivo on February 03, 2020, 05:49:26 PM
looking good gentlemen

Ive been sorting out a few from the Wenger drawer thought you might enjoy a look-see

ooooohhhh  :drool: that's  :drool: nice  :drool: I  :drool: wish  :drool: I  :drool: had  :drool: such  :drool: a  :drool: drawer  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Gath on February 04, 2020, 05:04:26 PM
Got these today, I think I'll take out my Matterhorn to have a Wenger Wednesday tomorrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/vBPMwVp.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/YozSJ0z.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rapidray on February 04, 2020, 06:16:10 PM
Got these today, I think I'll take out my Matterhorn to have a Wenger Wednesday tomorrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/vBPMwVp.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/YozSJ0z.jpg)
Great duo to be carrying  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 07, 2020, 04:39:27 AM
before there was Wenger there was Coutellerie Suisse...and with the addition of Stefan Schobers CS 1901 to my collection, I can now show the CS 1890, 1901 and 1908 together

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on March 07, 2020, 09:44:49 AM
Amazing. I really like those wenger soldiers. Model 1890 and 1901 are really hard to find  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on March 07, 2020, 03:39:42 PM
before there was Wenger there was Coutellerie Suisse...and with the addition of Stefan Schobers CS 1901 to my collection, I can now show the CS 1890, 1901 and 1908 together
Great set! Super condition !
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on March 07, 2020, 03:51:43 PM
A Yellow Evo-Grip 18 stays in my daypack.. Great little knife that has seen lots of use on the trail.. :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 07, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
thank you friends

Stefan is gone but not forgotten, this CS 1901 was the pride of his collection

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 10, 2020, 05:59:21 PM
a few more arrived

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on March 10, 2020, 10:18:03 PM
 :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 11, 2020, 05:03:17 PM
I don't know a lot but from what I gather those Taharas are quite  :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 11, 2020, 05:11:01 PM
yes thank you and particularly the Tahara tang stamp with the three faces logo is rare, more common is the three faces logo with WENGER DELEMONT but even that tang stamp is very rare....both are from the earliest years of Wenger (1907) until the late 1930s
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Borg on March 11, 2020, 07:24:53 PM
Very nice additions, i have just one three face, a pretty sorry looking farmers knife stamped with just the three faces only, seen below with my only CS  :tu:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49648318368_6f4d296d32.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 12, 2020, 03:45:39 PM
three knives, all 93mm, all four layers
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 12, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
 :dd: Wenger did make some wonderful knives.   
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 12, 2020, 04:38:59 PM
some early 93mm two layer
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on March 12, 2020, 04:43:55 PM
the tang stamp of the black Wenger is difficult to see in the group photo, here is a close up
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on March 14, 2020, 08:08:17 PM
three knives, all 93mm, all four layers
Just WOW! Great knives, especially black one .
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on April 07, 2020, 02:13:22 AM
sorting out some knives to be used in the book that I am writing (about vintage Wenger knives)
here are
1) a first shield cadet with a first shield 1908 soldier
2) three early Wenger "cadet" knives...one with an early three faces tang stamp, one with the first shield, and one with a Rothlisberger blade etch
3) 8cm officer knives
4) 9cm officer knives
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: xfile on April 07, 2020, 03:43:13 AM
sorting out some knives to be used in the book that I am writing (about vintage Wenger knives)
here are
1) a first shield cadet with a first shield 1908 soldier
2) three early Wenger "cadet" knives...one with an early three faces tang stamp, one with the first shield, and one with a Rothlisberger blade etch
3) 8cm officer knives
4) 9cm officer knives

I'm shocked. :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Ivo on April 07, 2020, 11:08:28 AM
sorting out some knives to be used in the book that I am writing (about vintage Wenger knives)
here are
1) a first shield cadet with a first shield 1908 soldier
2) three early Wenger "cadet" knives...one with an early three faces tang stamp, one with the first shield, and one with a Rothlisberger blade etch
3) 8cm officer knives
4) 9cm officer knives

WOW that's a very nice collection  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :tu: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on April 07, 2020, 03:09:21 PM
thanks guys.  here are some vintage Gentleman's and Farmer's knives also.

there are a few more pieces on the way, and I will also have the full history of Coutellerie Suisse / Wenger soldier knives, starting with the CS 1890 & 1901

with this pandemic I am working on the book almost every day, I want to have it completed in the near future.  stay tuned, I will post the info once it is ready.

Dave Arnold
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Gim on April 16, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
 I work at home. It is possible to take photos of 85-mm Wenger tools.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: CeHo on April 21, 2020, 08:09:45 AM
Very cool
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on April 21, 2020, 02:17:06 PM
 :iagree: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on April 22, 2020, 01:27:39 AM
 :iagree: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on May 07, 2020, 05:21:13 AM
Can someone take pics of the bitdriver adapter for the wenger swiss grip? I need detailed internal pictures, if possible, to see if there is a part missing from my adapter.

Thanks!

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Zanza on October 16, 2020, 04:10:11 PM
Just found this particular Wenger Evolution (63 ?) Soft Touch...
I can't even find it in the Wiki under Wenger Entree variations (https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Entree)


(https://i50.servimg.com/u/f50/19/13/23/70/eco63s11.jpg)

(https://i50.servimg.com/u/f50/19/13/23/70/eco63s10.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on October 17, 2020, 02:13:03 PM
 :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on November 24, 2020, 03:27:50 PM
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives".  I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished.  It will be ready soon.  here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover

Dave Arnold

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Reinier on November 24, 2020, 04:34:09 PM
:drool:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: VICMAN on November 24, 2020, 04:46:35 PM
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives".  I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished.  It will be ready soon.  here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover

Dave Arnold

Very nice Dave! :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 24, 2020, 04:49:01 PM
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives".  I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished.  It will be ready soon.  here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover

Dave Arnold
Great cover but I just wonder if that 4th one down should be straightened just a hair.   :think: :dunno:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on November 24, 2020, 04:54:37 PM
yes this photo was one of the rejects for that reason

thanks guys

there are some surprises in the book that I havent shown yet....  I found a very rare Wenger knife in an antique store in Missouri USA...I will reveal it at the end of the book ;)

also...Vic Guy...did you see Hobies video on the Aluminum four pin CURE PIED??  that might be the rarest Swiss army knife on the planet!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sakwakky on November 24, 2020, 05:01:51 PM
there are chapters on;
1) the tools that came before the 1890 soldier knife
2) soldier knives
3) cadet knives
4) evolution of officer knives from 1905 to 1937
5) evolution of officer knives from 1938 to 1964
6) evolution of officer knives summary, a one page photo showing evolution from 1905 to 1964
7) 82mm officer knives additional photos
8- 93mm officer knives additional photos
9) gentlemans knives
10) farmer / peasant knives
11) fixed blade knives
12) other rare/special wenger knives
13) THIS IS NOT A WENGER (a look at some of the knives most commonly misrepresented as vintage Wenger)
14) *Other Swiss knifemakers (Victorinox, Rothlisberger, Buhler, Solothurn, GS, SR, Eichenberger etc)
15) best of Solingen
16) final thoughts
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on November 24, 2020, 05:55:12 PM
Do let us know when it’s available so we can order a copy - looks unmissable! :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 24, 2020, 07:53:59 PM
Can anyone identify this Wenger?  I can't find it in the Wiki.

Tools that are not shown are main blade, small nail file and bottle opener/screw driver.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641488273_cef462c7d8.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 24, 2020, 08:54:59 PM
Can anyone identify this Wenger?  I can't find it in the Wiki.

Tools that are not shown are main blade, small nail file and bottle opener/screw driver.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50641488273_cef462c7d8.jpg)

Hi, should be model 1.21.03

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic=21658.msg1443163#msg1443163
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: FolderBeholder on November 24, 2020, 10:06:27 PM
Hi, should be model 1.21.03

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic=21658.msg1443163#msg1443163
I guess 3 years later it's still a 1.21.02 then?   :facepalm:  I forgot I had already asked. :cheers: :hatsoff: :tu: :rofl:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: basilio on November 25, 2020, 11:10:11 AM
I guess 3 years later it's still a 1.21.02 then?   :facepalm:  I forgot I had already asked. :cheers: :hatsoff: :tu: :rofl:
Hehe I forgot too I had already answered  :D
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on November 25, 2020, 11:21:53 AM
putting the finishing touches on a new book "A Collectors Guide to Vintage Wenger Knives".  I have been working on it all year, and its almost finished.  It will be ready soon.  here is a sneak preview of one of the photos I am considering for the cover

Dave Arnold

Sounds great Dave, will look forward to its release  :like: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: xfile on November 26, 2020, 01:26:56 AM
Three old Wenger.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 26, 2020, 04:00:25 AM
I agree!  I love Wenger.
Sounds great Dave, will look forward to its release  :like: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 26, 2020, 04:01:04 AM
Very nice!
Quote from: xfile  =topic=32456.msg2183447#msg2183447 date=1606350416
Three old Wenger.
Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on November 26, 2020, 06:22:46 AM
Three old Wenger.
:like: very nice indeed, Would love to see some more pics of that Tahara

here’s 3 of mine

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/208296375545a31452ceeabb616010b3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/9e6497297c079deea1a679765fd714cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on November 26, 2020, 06:24:24 AM
And one of my all time favourite SAKs, Wenger Everest

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201126/393be972e2c6fa54829da4fdfc0f879b.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: jnoxyd on November 26, 2020, 02:33:33 PM
there are chapters on;
1) the tools that came before the 1890 soldier knife
2) soldier knives
3) cadet knives
4) evolution of officer knives from 1905 to 1937
5) evolution of officer knives from 1938 to 1964
6) evolution of officer knives summary, a one page photo showing evolution from 1905 to 1964
7) 82mm officer knives additional photos
8- 93mm officer knives additional photos
9) gentlemans knives
10) farmer / peasant knives
11) fixed blade knives
12) other rare/special wenger knives
13) THIS IS NOT A WENGER (a look at some of the knives most commonly misrepresented as vintage Wenger)
14) *Other Swiss knifemakers (Victorinox, Rothlisberger, Buhler, Solothurn, GS, SR, Eichenberger etc)
15) best of Solingen
16) final thoughts
Great news, Dave! We are waiting for it
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: ChopperCharles on December 01, 2020, 03:40:22 PM
Echotech, why is that your favorite? I have the Swiss Buck version of that knife, but haven't used it yet (It's still in brand new condition). Every time I handle it I wish the screwdriver was longer and that it had scissors instead of the dinky little pliers. But I'm willing to be convinced... :)

Charles.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: bismouth on December 01, 2020, 03:49:19 PM
Last purchases...

(https://forum.multitool.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg113.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2Fd%2F2%2Ff%2F128350246_1243167...577851_n-57eb201.jpg&hash=5aa36924dace910f32f4749259ade259a5ff5d83)

(https://forum.multitool.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg114.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2Fd%2Fb%2F5%2F128897447_1268043...272534_n-57eb209.jpg&hash=5bb4baf4dddceeea6c3a538e85c752486c5e9461)

(https://forum.multitool.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg112.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F0%2Fa%2Fe%2F128356442_8570553...596482_n-57eb1f5.jpg&hash=a71190ed591dc8420747f17ae1cf8a4a52cd6c7a)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on December 02, 2020, 02:14:59 PM
 :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 02, 2020, 02:37:06 PM
Echotech, why is that your favorite? I have the Swiss Buck version of that knife, but haven't used it yet (It's still in brand new condition). Every time I handle it I wish the screwdriver was longer and that it had scissors instead of the dinky little pliers. But I'm willing to be convinced... :)

Charles.
Hi Charles
Good question :think:

Yes the pliers are a bit fiddly and truthfully I’d reach for my wave or skeletool in most instances. The driver doesn’t bother me either as again I’d probably use a dedicated tool.

So what do I like? To me it’s an outdoor knife hence the pliers and driver just a bonus really, the blade is a good slicer but it’s that big saw that’s so useful in the yard.
Also I like the slide lock more than liner lock, very easy to use, and the whole tool just feels good in the hand, good solidness about it. I like my ranger wood for similar reasons, properly large saw and the button for the lock is easy to use.

Not sure that’s going to convince you but sometimes something just feels right :dunno:

:cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on December 14, 2020, 10:08:38 PM
My idea of the almost perfect two layer Wenger
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 15, 2020, 12:53:18 AM
Wenger lovers in case you've missed it, there's The Delemont challenge happening in October specifically for Wengers and newer Vic Delemonts, looking forward to seeing you there, please sign up

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86179.msg2188225.html#msg2188225

 :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on December 24, 2020, 06:10:03 AM
I have been looking for a Wenger Double Blade forever and finally gave up and made a two blade mod based off the nomad. It’s kind of a “compact nomad plus.”
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 24, 2020, 06:43:24 AM
I have been looking for a Wenger Double Blade forever and finally gave up and made a two blade mod based off the nomad. It’s kind of a “compact nomad plus.”
:like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: MrInfernal on December 24, 2020, 09:31:20 PM
Guys I have one question, do you know why the 130mm Wenger/Victorinox Delemont blade is not sharpened last centimetre from the body?
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SirVicaLot on December 24, 2020, 10:13:59 PM
Guys I have one question, do you know why the 130mm Wenger/Victorinox Delemont blade is not sharpened last centimetre from the body?

I could see two reasons: The lock engages at that part of the blade, so it needs to be thicker. I assume it is also a safety decision. Should you slip, your finger will hit an unsharpened part.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 26, 2021, 10:53:09 PM
Nothing but love for Wenger.  A few I picked up on a recent trip. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Gareth on February 27, 2021, 12:09:00 AM
Love that black Pocket Tool Chest. :drool:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 27, 2021, 01:34:08 AM
Nothing but love for Wenger.  A few I picked up on a recent trip.
:dd: great finds Aloha :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 27, 2021, 03:03:44 AM
Nice score Aloha!!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 27, 2021, 03:46:06 AM
Thank you.  Never know where these gems will pop up. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Mechanickal on February 27, 2021, 08:17:11 AM
Since Reinier sold me the Wenger part of his recent lot, I can start dipping my toes in here again :D
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 01, 2021, 03:25:26 PM
Nice.  Wenger has some great models.  I'm sure your toe dipping will be fun.   
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: petronius on March 01, 2021, 06:07:07 PM
First: Hello! to all, as I´m new to this forum.

M first SAK was a Wenger back in 1981/82, a Alpine Backpacker (plain). After many years of Victorinoxes (?) I got me another one last week.
My wife carries a Wenger Esquire on her keychain and she loves it, especially the scissors.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 01, 2021, 06:08:54 PM
 :like:  Welcome. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: toolguy on March 01, 2021, 10:53:16 PM
Nothing but love for Wenger.  A few I picked up on a recent trip.

You're a fortunate man Aloha.

Good-on-ya.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 01, 2021, 11:06:20 PM
 :salute:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: toolguy on March 01, 2021, 11:07:41 PM
Here are a few 120's and 130's.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on March 02, 2021, 10:05:55 AM
Always had a soft spot for those orange camo scales - very funky! :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on March 02, 2021, 02:32:34 PM
Here are a few 120's and 130's.

 :like: :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 02, 2021, 02:55:26 PM
 :like: :like:
Here are a few 120's and 130's.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 02, 2021, 02:55:57 PM
Welcome! 
First: Hello! to all, as I´m new to this forum.

M first SAK was a Wenger back in 1981/82, a Alpine Backpacker (plain). After many years of Victorinoxes (?) I got me another one last week.
My wife carries a Wenger Esquire on her keychain and she loves it, especially the scissors.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 02, 2021, 03:52:30 PM
Always had a soft spot for those orange camo scales - very funky! :like: :like:

 :iagree: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Bourget117 on March 02, 2021, 08:13:34 PM
My first SAK was a Wenger Handyman. Bought it around 1989. Lots of tools for a small size. Still works and looks great.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SgtTowser on March 03, 2021, 05:06:30 AM
I commented above on what an excellent complement my S557 is for my CTL. It offers pliers AND a wrench for the multi driver heads on my CTL.  But now the S557 is growing on me so much that on some days when I am only being a good scout that is  prepared, instead of a human trouble shooter, I actually grab the S557 just because it’s sooooo compact and I love rubbing those Evo scales in my pocket!

I have a left handed Traveller and being a lefty really LOVE the proper orientation. But I just can’t live with the limited tool set of my Trav. So: if I ever run into an S557 lefty, I will probably buy it...if they ever made one for southpaws.   

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 03, 2021, 11:20:12 PM
I hear that Sgt T!!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pipedreams on March 03, 2021, 11:42:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/D9G46B8.jpg)

I got a nice little surprise today. I bought this lot of Esquires for scale tools and key rings and much to my surprise one of them is an Air Traveler in nice condition. w0oT!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SgtTowser on March 04, 2021, 02:54:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/D9G46B8.jpg)

I got a nice little surprise today. I bought this lot of Esquires for scale tools and key rings and much to my surprise one of them is an Air Traveler in nice condition. w0oT!

Congrats!

Quite a treat.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on March 04, 2021, 03:17:21 PM
 :iagree: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 04, 2021, 10:00:47 PM
Me too!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 18, 2021, 12:02:30 AM
Here’s an oldie I picked up recently, from the 1930’s I think (tang stamp 1930-45) would love some more info

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Shown with Cadet and FX for size

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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pipedreams on March 18, 2021, 01:56:53 AM
Very cool, @Echotech!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 18, 2021, 01:57:57 AM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SgtTowser on March 18, 2021, 02:40:37 AM
I love Wenger. As a lefty I give them beau coup kudos for fully left handed knives.

Wenger showed there was a way to do it slightly differently and with distinct advantage.

The cap lifter is a short knife that is very useful as a pull ull up and back cutter for twine and fishing line. I use it quite a bit that way. It could easily be modified to an effective seat belt cutter if Wenger were still in biz. And I have even mastered screwing withe rounded tip, though it is sub optimal.

The two position pliers are very good, also.

And wrench was way ahead of its time.

But my problem with Wenger remains their willingness to stick with ineffective solutions, or useless ornament.

They carried on indefinitely with sub par scissors that just don’t cut much but paper and that are susceptible to  loss of springy function from gunk and corrosion.

I am supposed to prefer Wenger scissors because the spring won’t break. But the scissors never cut that well. My Vic’s spring breaks once in a great while, 99 percent of the time they cut the way I want. I prefer the Vic trade off. I will find a way to limp through a broken spring once in a great while for top cutting all the time.

The short chain was also useless—too short for a lanyard, and unnecessary if you add a lanyard.

The blade lock works good new but wears out. It was too flimsy to have stuck with IMHO. 

Wenger’s sense of smaller size, higher tool density, and better scale ergos are deeply missed by me.

But on some level they lacked the seriousness of purpose about getting function right to keep me from preferring Victorinox’s durable, effective tools. 

I love and trust my s557, EXCEPT for the blade lock and the scissors. I sense they will fail me sooner or later at normal function they claim to provide. I don’t sense the same risk from my victorinox knives.

I want my knife to come through in a pinch.

That’s why I carry a SAK.

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 18, 2021, 03:27:21 AM
Very cool, @Echotech!
:iagree:

Thanks pipedreams and Barry  :tu: :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 18, 2021, 03:32:55 AM
I love Wenger. As a lefty I give them beau coup kudos for fully left handed knives.

Wenger showed there was a way to do it slightly differently and with distinct advantage.

The cap lifter is a short knife that is very useful as a pull ull up and back cutter for twine and fishing line. I use it quite a bit that way. It could easily be modified to an effective seat belt cutter if Wenger were still in biz. And I have even mastered screwing withe rounded tip, though it is sub optimal.

The two position pliers are very good, also.

And wrench was way ahead of its time.

But my problem with Wenger remains their willingness to stick with ineffective solutions, or useless ornament.

They carried on indefinitely with sub par scissors that just don’t cut much but paper and that are susceptible to  loss of springy function from gunk and corrosion.

I am supposed to prefer Wenger scissors because the spring won’t break. But the scissors never cut that well. My Vic’s spring breaks once in a great while, 99 percent of the time they cut the way I want. I prefer the Vic trade off. I will find a way to limp through a broken spring once in a great while for top cutting all the time.

The short chain was also useless—too short for a lanyard, and unnecessary if you add a lanyard.

The blade lock works good new but wears out. It was too flimsy to have stuck with IMHO. 

Wenger’s sense of smaller size, higher tool density, and better scale ergos are deeply missed by me.

But on some level they lacked the seriousness of purpose about getting function right to keep me from preferring Victorinox’s durable, effective tools. 

I love and trust my s557, EXCEPT for the blade lock and the scissors. I sense they will fail me sooner or later at normal function they claim to provide. I don’t sense the same risk from my victorinox knives.

I want my knife to come through in a pinch.

That’s why I carry a SAK.

Some very interesting observations Sarge   :tu:

I'm a lefty too but TBH I'm so used to living in a right hand world, it doesn't really worry me either way but may explain my (subconscious?) extra fondness for Wenger, always felt kind of special, not better just special, a kind of rare beast

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 26, 2021, 02:07:26 AM
 :iagree:. There's something about Wengers.... I love them.  I'm a lefty, too, but have learned to adapt in a right hand world :D
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SgtTowser on April 03, 2021, 07:09:31 AM
:iagree:. There's something about Wengers.... I love them.  I'm a lefty, too, but have learned to adapt in a right hand world :D

Yes, we all have to pass for right handers most of the time.

What lefty hasn’t had to toast right handed at his her wedding, unless he were marrying another lefty?

We all fake it very well.

Right handers almost never remark on my opposite handed-ness.

But whenever I get a product designed for a left hander, it just feels so comfortable and intuitive that I am envious of right handers getting to live in a world designed to suit them.

The one thing I am really grateful for is living in a right lane driving country, because it feels so intuitive to enter and be in the car on the left side. There are a few things like that. I have not yet owned an OHO Victorinox Sentinel, but I am told that Victorinox accidentally made them very left hand friendly. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SgtTowser on April 03, 2021, 08:21:39 PM
Wenger Morning roll call.

Traveler Lefty. HERE!

Cyclist. HERE!

EVO S557. HERE!

All present and accounted for, Sgt.

As you were.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: 39hotrod on April 04, 2021, 03:12:27 PM
 :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 04, 2021, 04:02:31 PM
 :tu: :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on April 04, 2021, 07:52:46 PM
 :iagree:  :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Time22 on April 05, 2021, 01:57:07 AM
Good evening!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on April 05, 2021, 05:25:07 AM
:dd:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: BenHSK on May 07, 2021, 09:34:31 PM
Now I own my first Wengers. There was no plan to collect Wenger SAKs too, but in a shop in my town I found two models I like. They lays in the shop for a long time, I think.
It’s a Soft Touch an a Junior Explorer.

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on May 08, 2021, 02:09:55 AM
Nice Ben :like:
Hope to see you and them in the Delemont challenge in October :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on May 08, 2021, 04:16:07 AM
 :iagree: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: BenHSK on May 08, 2021, 08:48:00 PM
Nice Ben :like:
Hope to see you and them in the Delemont challenge in October :tu:

I'm still undecided whether I want to keep it or sell it.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on September 26, 2021, 12:44:37 AM
Finally got my hands on a reasonably priced Wenger EKA #3 off eBay. Should have took some before pics because it was in pretty rough shape, but I went straight into fix up mode right away. Had a bent corkscrew and blade. Tarnished all over with virtually zero snap. Now it’s straight and true with decent snap. I never wanted to pay too much for one of these because I always thought I’d hate the bubinga wood scales. Now that I have it I find not only are they really comfortable, but also look great.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on September 26, 2021, 01:42:25 AM
Finally got my hands on a reasonably priced Wenger EKA #3 off eBay. Should have took some before pics because it was in pretty rough shape, but I went straight into fix up mode right away. Had a bent corkscrew and blade. Tarnished all over with virtually zero snap. Now it’s straight and true with decent snap. I never wanted to pay too much for one of these because I always thought I’d hate the bubinga wood scales. Now that I have it I find not only are they really comfortable, but also look great.

Really nice Pa, those scales are lovely :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on September 26, 2021, 08:00:02 AM
 :iagree: looks great!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pa_strunk on September 26, 2021, 10:23:33 PM
Thanks guys, may grab the other three models if I get a chance
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Vinz Clortho on October 29, 2021, 05:44:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cKU3Lxm.png)
Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 04, 2021, 05:26:11 PM
Yes tons of love as of late. It started years back with an EVO 17 SoftTouch. Later added an EVO 63 without the keychain loop.

Recently I’ve picked up a Ranger and a SwissBuck. Love the Wenger tools and uniqueness. Kinda sad they are gone. I prefer their can opener as it opens cans better IMO and works as an awesome package opener with the super sharp tip.

Clip point life!


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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on November 05, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
:like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: kamakiri on November 05, 2021, 02:16:54 AM
I love Wengers too now.

Also really easy to take apart.

Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 05, 2021, 02:26:01 AM
I love Wengers too now.

Also really easy to take apart.
Oops, I just bought another NIB Wenger off eBay. EVO S101.


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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: kamakiri on November 05, 2021, 06:59:29 PM
Oops, I just bought another NIB Wenger off eBay. EVO S101.

 :tu:

I gotta start thinking about getting some new-ish ones. I’ve been concerned about ruining vintage Wenger scales, but the design seems to lend itself to reattaching without much trouble. Plus so many more tools to mod with and somewhat compatible with both 84mm and 91mm Vics…down another rabbit hole I go!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Canuckdad on November 10, 2021, 01:08:03 AM
I see loads of stuff about Vic but not so much on the Wenger line. Any reasons for this?

 I can only speak for myself but I simply feel Vic's are better quality. I like the scissors on a vic much better, and Victorinox tools have this distinct "SNAP" sound that I LOVE when you open or shut the blade.  The several Wengers I have owned and used never seemed to have that nice SNAP.  They had more of a .. soft click To me that translated to lesser quality.

Now that being said, In High school, and  when I worked in a factory  I did carry a Wenger every day because I didnt want to scratch up my Vics. I have to admit that my Wenger, I think it is a Highlander, did its job perfectly fine and I have a soft spot in my heart for it. I will attach a picture. I think thats why I never gave it away. I have nothing against Wenger. I just feel Victorinox is slightly better quality. Wenger is still a fine tool.

Here is mine
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 10, 2021, 01:47:25 AM
I can only speak for myself but I simply feel Vic's are better quality. I like the scissors on a vic much better, and Victorinox tools have this distinct "CLICK" sound that I LOVE when you open or shut the blade.  The several Wengers I have owned and used never seemed to have that nice CLICK. To me that translated to lesser quality.

Now that being said, In High school, and  when I worked in a factory  I did carry a Wenger every day because I didnt want to scratch up my Vics. I have to admit that my Wenger, I think it is a Highlander, did its job perfectly fine and I have a soft spot in my heart for it. I will attach a picture. I think thats why I never gave it away. I have nothing against Wenger. I just feel Victorinox is slightly better quality. Wenger is still a fine tool.

Here is mine
Ya they certainly can feel more budget, but I also like some of their tools more. I prefer Wenger can opener as I don’t find Vic can opener any good as screw driver and I rarely use these for cans. But the Wenger can opener is great for scraping and package opener.

I also love how some Wengers had clip point blades. Much prefer that blade shape over Vic blade or standard Wenger blade.

I actually prefer Wenger scissors as the Vic spring is fiddly and breaks sometimes. The Wenger scissor spring is a spring bar and durable.

Lastly I liked how Wenger added locks to their small knives. And even loved the original Ranger’s. Though thankfully Vic recognized this and made Vic RangerGrip series.

Also have you ever tried the locking standard screwdriver on a Wenger? It’s super cool.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: maxdog on November 11, 2021, 10:28:09 PM
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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: maxdog on November 11, 2021, 10:48:13 PM
I think Wenger brought more innovation than Victorinox.   Locking blade in a medium SAK, auto locking screw driver, and ergonomic scales, serrated scissors fed off the backsprings, and lighter in the pocket.  I think the fact Wenger/Delemont series blades are a little thinner than Victorinox isn't because of lower quality, but by design to keep the whole package lighter.  In a slip joint design where everything is held together by 3 pins/rivets, you can't do too much prying anyway, so I'm not sure having overly beefy blades is a benefit.   My S17 is noticeably lighter than my Huntsman.  Those ergonomic scales have grown on me and I do find them really comfortable.  Perfectly contoured for your hand really.  In contrast Victorinox is more traditional in it's approach.  I think both have their merits.

It's a good thing Victorinox, when they acquired Wenger appreciated the innovation and took the best from Wenger and incorporated it into their product set and created the Evolution/Delemont series..  This from Victorinox website: "Embrace change, explore new horizons, progress everyday... This is what the Evolution collection is about."
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on November 11, 2021, 10:54:33 PM
.

 :iagree: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 12, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
Definitely agree. Wenger seemed to have far more innovation than Victorinox. Sometimes silly things but often cool things. Love the push in locking screwdriver.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: sergemaster on November 12, 2021, 10:12:53 PM
Amici,
The one thing that struck me about the original Wenger blades is when it came to fit and finish, they were slightly superior than Victorinox. For example, if you hold up a Wenger to the light, you will see that there is no gaps between the springs or the liners. I call this phenomenon, "leaking light". Sure the tweezers and toothpick were not the best from a functional standpoint, but you had a blade that was built and functioned solidly.

Most Victorinox blades are guilty of this, and is one of the only thing that irks me about them. That's why I try to buy pieces that are 1990's and older. Since some, not all, seem to be assembled with tighter tolerances compared to the current models.

What I find ironic, is that I have picked up some Wenger patterns that are now stamped with the Victorinox logo, and all of them have gaps or leak light.. I cannot understand why Victorinox has not corrected this issue, especially after all of these years. Since this is a tooling issue, and not really a QC responsibility. That's why I recommend that if you want a premiere Swisschamp, look for the models with the gray magnifying glass frame, and SOLID cellidor scales.. These are built like literal bank vaults which will serve you faithfully in this world and into the next, what we in EDC land call, "Victorinox Valhalla".. 

Cheers,
Serge
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 13, 2021, 02:44:23 AM
 :iagree: completely Serge! 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 16, 2021, 11:07:00 PM
:rofl:   :cheers:  Quite the score my friend!  :D  :salute:

You next goal, the Wenger Beer Walker.......(also known as the Basic 66 by snooty types who fuss about things like accuracy and facts)
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Wenger%20Basic%2066%20adj_zpsxlps7108.jpg)
I just discovered the Wenger Basic 66 and Classic 66. Would love to acquire one in decent shape. Unfortunately the only one I could find on eBay was destroyed. Blade had been sharpened on what appears to be a brick. Not even worth the $18 they wanted.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloxfan on November 30, 2021, 06:09:31 PM
Posted another Wenger video:

https://youtu.be/ycA14NrlhHA

SwissBuck Sidekick compared with Wenger Traveler.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: SAKTaschenmesser on February 20, 2022, 12:38:53 PM
My Wengers. On balance I like the smaller size of Wenger for few layers and larger Victorinox for more layers.

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on February 20, 2022, 04:43:47 PM
Very nice SAKTaschenmesser!  :like: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on February 20, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 20, 2022, 11:06:38 PM
Some beauties there SAKT :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: proletenstahl on February 21, 2022, 02:18:01 AM
Beautiful! I've never seen that combined cross and crossbow emblem.  :o
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on February 25, 2022, 06:59:04 PM
I have found this one today, model commander with stainless steel scales. Not listed in SAKWiki in Wenger metal series.
Anyone have some info about it?
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on February 25, 2022, 08:26:24 PM
Love those perlage scales, Deedee! :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on February 25, 2022, 08:34:43 PM
Thanks Rizio Il Ghiro  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 25, 2022, 09:01:12 PM
Very cool Deedee great find  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Deedee on February 25, 2022, 09:38:46 PM
Thanks Echotech  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Sawl Goodman on February 25, 2022, 10:30:38 PM
I just discovered the Wenger Basic 66 and Classic 66. Would love to acquire one in decent shape. Unfortunately the only one I could find on eBay was destroyed. Blade had been sharpened on what appears to be a brick. Not even worth the $18 they wanted.

I have a Basic 66. Cool knife. I like the combo tool much more than Vic’s. I prefer it as a can opener & it retains the normal Wenger SD lock.

My one issue is that the spine of the saw protrudes above the scales. It looks and feels a bit weird.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Intorikata on February 26, 2022, 01:25:03 AM
Posted another Wenger video:

https://youtu.be/ycA14NrlhHA

SwissBuck Sidekick compared with Wenger Traveler.

Nice! My only Wenger is a Swissbuck Remedy. The Swissbucks were cool...
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: HWF on March 07, 2022, 12:57:00 AM
I’ve had this Wenger Standard (1 02 03) for over 20 years. Haven’t carried it much until recently, very nice in the pocket. Here it is with my Tinker.

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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on March 16, 2022, 07:52:02 PM
Two old commanders  :drink:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: fyrstormer on March 17, 2022, 09:29:55 PM
For medium-size SAKs, I prefer the Wenger design. After a few years of being irritated that I couldn't get the exact tool loadout I wanted, I just built my own.

Technically this is a Victorinox, but it's based on the Wenger EvoGrip line:

(http://i.imgur.com/Pe3ow0y.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lj8Z0ET.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wjfd1SA.jpg)

I appreciate that it has a locking blade, unlike almost all Victorinox designs.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: kkokkolis on March 18, 2022, 07:52:20 AM
For medium-size SAKs, I prefer the Wenger design. After a few years of being irritated that I couldn't get the exact tool loadout I wanted, I just built my own.

Technically this is a Victorinox, but it's based on the Wenger EvoGrip line:

(http://i.imgur.com/Pe3ow0y.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lj8Z0ET.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wjfd1SA.jpg)

I appreciate that it has a locking blade, unlike almost all Victorinox designs.
Very nice. List of tools?

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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: afishhunter on March 19, 2022, 07:54:02 PM
I "love" my Wenger/Victorinox "Evo Grip" 14, which if I understand correctly was/is originally a Wenger design. It has the (IMHO "better") Wenger scissors, and is the old Wenger standard 85mm closed as opposed to Victorinox's 91/"93"mm, at any rate.

I also "love" my Mini Champ. However, I'm not sure if it started as a Wenger design before Wenger was bought by Victorinox.

Serious question:
Is/Was the Mini Champ originally a Wenger offering before they were bought by Victorinox? I've never seen another Victorinox (or Wenger, that I know of) with the cuticle pusher blade, or the mini Wharncliffe blade.
A curious mind wants to know. 😷👍
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on March 19, 2022, 09:42:45 PM
I "love" my Wenger/Victorinox "Evo Grip" 14, which if I understand correctly was/is originally a Wenger design. It has the (IMHO "better") Wenger scissors, and is the old Wenger standard 85mm closed as opposed to Victorinox's 91/"93"mm, at any rate.

I also "love" my Mini Champ. However, I'm not sure if it started as a Wenger design before Wenger was bought by Victorinox.

Serious question:
Is/Was the Mini Champ originally a Wenger offering before they were bought by Victorinox? I've never seen another Victorinox (or Wenger, that I know of) with the cuticle pusher blade, or the mini Wharncliffe blade.
A curious mind wants to know. 😷👍

mini champ (58mm) has always been from Victorinox, Wenger had the "pocket tool chest" in their 65mm line : https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pocket+Tool+Chest
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: afishhunter on March 19, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

[/quote]
mini champ (58mm) has always been from Victorinox, Wenger had the "pocket tool chest" in their 65mm line : https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Pocket+Tool+Chest
Thank you. 😷👍
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: m47mu74nt on March 20, 2022, 02:00:41 PM
Thank you.
Your are welcome  :)
I really liked the 65mm size  :climber:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: VistaMN on February 23, 2023, 07:37:20 AM
I’m a Wenger Collector.  My family came from Switzerland and there are Wenger’s in my family tree.  Gerber’s too, for what it’s worth.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 23, 2023, 08:10:50 AM
I’m a Wenger Collector.  My family came from Switzerland and there are Wenger’s in my family tree.  Gerber’s too, for what it’s worth.

Very cool VistaMN welcome to MTo, look forward to seeing some of your Wengers  :climber: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 23, 2023, 08:12:12 AM
Here’s my latest Wenger, a Century

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Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: VistaMN on February 23, 2023, 08:24:55 AM
Very cool VistaMN welcome to MTo, look forward to seeing some of your Wengers  :climber: :cheers:

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Thank You.  My Wenger Tool Chest Plus - 5th generation


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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 23, 2023, 09:28:30 AM

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Thank You.  My Wenger Tool Chest Plus - 5th generation


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Nice :like:

I’ve got a Matterhorn which is similar but not in nearly as good shape
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: pfrsantos on February 23, 2023, 01:35:25 PM
Great necro, guys!

 :cheers: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Mitch-O on February 26, 2023, 05:06:59 PM
The Wenger was my first SAK. I think it was about 25 years ago. And thanks to SAKWiki I found the model that I starded with 🤗.  It was the Commander snife with Zebra scales. I had in my mind that it was some tiger stripes, but it wasn't.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=40&sort_mode=name_asc&imageId=341&popup=1&scalesize=o)

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 26, 2023, 11:26:36 PM
Love those scales  :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2023, 12:03:55 AM
I’m a Wenger Collector.  My family came from Switzerland and there are Wenger’s in my family tree.  Gerber’s too, for what it’s worth.

Looks like someone can score us some free SAKs!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2023, 12:15:45 AM
Also on topic. A Wenger was one of my first SAKs back in 2014 along with a Explorer and Pioneer.

Haven’t seen it in a few years and assumed it was lost.

Last night my daughter was opening some toys and need a knife. Before I could pull out the trusty Swisschamp my wife says “Just use mine”.

Out of her bedside table she whips out my long lost Wenger! Guess she had had it there for a good number of years and no I will not be getting it back.

Here is an old picture of it to tide us over till I can sneak it out for some fresh pictures.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/i86/HarleyXJGuy/Knives/Knives%202/1128141810c.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 27, 2023, 12:19:03 AM
:D :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 28, 2023, 05:35:16 PM
 :rofl:

I really like Wenger. Here are my 3 most used and carried Cyclist, Security 14, and Pocket Tool Chest.   
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: gene stoner on February 28, 2023, 06:01:26 PM
Here's one you don't see every day.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 28, 2023, 10:56:15 PM
Great SAKs Aloha and Gene :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 01, 2023, 12:45:00 AM
Thank you. 

 :iagree: nice one Gene. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: gene stoner on March 01, 2023, 04:24:00 AM
Great SAKs Aloha and Gene :like:

Thanks!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Mini on March 05, 2023, 08:02:59 PM
The Wenger was my first SAK. I think it was about 25 years ago. And thanks to SAKWiki I found the model that I starded with .  It was the Commander snife with Zebra scales. I had in my mind that it was some tiger stripes, but it wasn't.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=40&sort_mode=name_asc&imageId=341&popup=1&scalesize=o)
I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg)

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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 05, 2023, 10:45:13 PM
8) :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: gene stoner on March 06, 2023, 04:46:46 AM
I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg)

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:iagree: :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Mitch-O on March 06, 2023, 10:53:18 PM
I think this is one of my favourite coloured scales that I own.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230305/83fc83e397375b7eb8aa49210dc17b45.jpg)

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Just beautiful  :iagree:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: quaydvt on March 09, 2023, 07:08:53 PM
Getting back into the SAK world after several years absence.  I have mostly Vics, mainly because that's what I knew, and that's what was there.  But I do have a few Wengers - older models.  I prefer the older models of both makers, older the better, and have developed a distinct preference for the 84mm Vics and the 82mm Wengers.   Have my eye on a couple now, but not sure if I'll pull the trigger on any of them.  Wallet has gotten a lot slimmer since retirement a few years ago.  Also waiting for my copy of Dave's book (thanks Dave!), which will make my Wenger hunts either easier, or harder (might open more doors than I can handle!).

I don't really find any significant difference in quality btw Vic & Wenger... maybe Wenger not quite as tight a back spring??  But I only have a few to compare.  And they are all pretty old - '60s or older.
Planning to stick around though, now that I'm back.
Trying to attach a photo.  Not working... :(
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on March 09, 2023, 07:23:30 PM
Welcome back to SAK world central - Dave’s book is a great source of info, and you’ll find we’re all good enablers ro7nd here!  :rofl: When uploading/attaching a photo, make sure it’s less than 500kb or else it won’t attach.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Tasky on March 09, 2023, 09:31:12 PM
I'm developing a love for Wenger models, mainly 85mm.
Unfortunately it seems there aren't many for sale in UK-friendly places. I've seen dozens on Etsy and eBay (US and Switzerland), but none of them will ship to the UK.

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: quaydvt on March 10, 2023, 04:34:09 PM
Welcome back to SAK world central - Dave’s book is a great source of info, and you’ll find we’re all good enablers ro7nd here!  :rofl: When uploading/attaching a photo, make sure it’s less than 500kb or else it won’t attach.  :cheers:
Thanks Rizio.  Going to try again.  I'm wondering if being on Safari might be a problem.  Lately FB messenger doesn't like Safari either...  So here goes..
 Nope.. Still not working in Firefox either...   "[ Attachment has not been uploaded yet ]"   This is the result.  The jpg is only 300 kb, so that isn't the problem.  Just doesn't seem to want to upload. 
Tried a .doc file.  No joy there either.  Is it because I'm "new"? 
Well there it is!!  Says in preview that it hasn't been uploaded yet, but... 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 10, 2023, 04:38:08 PM
Nice selection of oldies.    :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: quaydvt on March 10, 2023, 04:59:38 PM
Nice selection of oldies.    :tu:
Thank you.  I have a couple of alox soldiers as well, but other than that, this is pretty much the extent of the Wenger... so far!
That little 82mm has had it's main blade over-sharpened nearly to death, but it's still a nice little knife.  The little Cellidor is the Vic/Wenger hybrid Premier, so it lives in both worlds.
Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 10, 2023, 10:49:43 PM
Love ‘em quaydvt, really nice collection

It’s much easier to get photos to work in the Tapatalk app, but then you miss out on the emojis, challenge badges and other goodies of the website version

I use a mix of both website and Tapatalk for the best experience

:cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: MuSAKcian on March 11, 2023, 02:10:58 AM
:rofl:

I really like Wenger. Here are my 3 most used and carried Cyclist, Security 14, and Pocket Tool Chest.   

I'm drooling over that Cyclist 🤤🤤

I just picked up a Small Mountain Bike the other day, and I just adore the uniqueness of this SAK. It's like a bike multitool and a SAK have a baby🤣🤣🤣 but on a serious note, I can also see why it's obsolete.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on March 11, 2023, 08:58:13 AM
Nice selection there quaydvt, and glad you worked out a way to get a pic uploaded!  :like: :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on March 29, 2023, 02:41:36 AM
Some awlsome Wengers in this thread...and I only checked the final page! :tu:

This post has been a long time in the making. Here's my little Wenger family.

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Clockwise from top left: Picnic, Backpacker II, Watch Case Opener (AKA Watchmaker 85), and Patriot.

Some more photos:

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Thanks for checking 'em out! :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on March 29, 2023, 08:05:28 AM
 :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: z1913 on March 29, 2023, 08:57:00 AM


This post has been a long time in the making. Here's my little Wenger family.


Excellent set, Farmer X. Any plans to further expand the Wenger collection?
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on March 29, 2023, 11:01:11 PM
Thank you MuSAKcian. 

Nice Wengers FX. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on March 30, 2023, 06:10:30 AM
Thanks, y'awl! :hatsoff:

Any plans to further expand the Wenger collection?
Definitely. I like the Wengers with scale art, such as on my Backpacker II. However, I'd want to find nice unused examples with their boxes and paperwork. I'd awlso like to get at least one or two of the 120mm and/or 130mm models, as well as more Patriots. An Apprentice or a Highlander will most likely be my next one.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on September 02, 2023, 04:34:39 PM
An Apprentice or a Highlander will most likely be my next one.
I was 100% correct!

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And here's the part where I'd best don my fire-fighting ensemble...

Last night I needed to open a can of beans to go with dinner. That presented a perfect opportunity to test out a Wenger can opener. Note how cleanly it cuts. Of all the multi-tool can openers I've tested, it is my favorite. I can see that eventually I'll have a slim Wenger that's dedicated to can opening duty.

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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on September 03, 2023, 12:14:32 AM
:like: good job FX :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on September 03, 2023, 05:54:20 AM
 :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Barry Rowland on September 04, 2023, 05:20:47 PM
I have the plain edge Highlander.  It was my first Wenger and it's a great knife!!
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Farmer X on September 05, 2023, 06:23:31 AM
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wirelessjunkie on December 04, 2023, 02:37:05 AM
Wengers are great, I have a small pile of them in various sizes that I rotate. The blade shape, toothpick/tweezer location, serrated scissors, and locking screwdriver design are what keep them in my pockets most days.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 04, 2023, 07:25:57 AM
I accidentally picked up a Wenger on an auction a while ago and I really liked the quirky can opener so much that I now keep an eye out for them but I don't actively pursue them. I've managed to pick up 2 more thinking they were SAKs at first glance. No clue which ones they are though as I haven't researched that. Guess I should.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Jazz on December 04, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
I really miss Wenger. They had such a cool variety., and I started really appreciating Swiss Army knives too late.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wirelessjunkie on December 04, 2023, 09:06:32 PM
I really miss Wenger. They had such a cool variety., and I started really appreciating Swiss Army knives too late.

You and me both. Theres a reason I've kept a small pile around. I like Victorinox too, but Wenger has always been more interesting to me.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 05, 2023, 01:19:05 AM
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year  :think:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 05, 2023, 05:39:08 AM
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year  :think:

That'd be cool.  I better get mine spiffed up before then.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 05, 2023, 06:05:19 AM
That'd be cool.  I better get mine spiffed up before then.
:like: :tu:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: wirelessjunkie on December 05, 2023, 07:21:30 AM
...
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year  :think:
That would be fun, I'm in if it happens.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on December 05, 2023, 07:40:14 AM
That would be fun, I'm in if it happens.
:like: ok sounds like there’ll be a few of us, watch this space
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 05, 2023, 01:54:05 PM
Here's one you don't see every day.

Aha - The infamous Wenger Premier

And the genuine Wenger version of that model features further down the page in Farmer X's post!!
Title: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Antti Lammi on December 05, 2023, 01:56:45 PM
This is still my favorite Wenger (what i use)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231205/200c14adfcbc9f91ecc7b131b2444faf.jpg)

And here is my Wenger collection so far

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231205/a5a23fa2a1d35676d7db7f5b265ae028.jpg)


Only Tools Matters
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 05, 2023, 01:58:57 PM
I really miss Wenger. They had such a cool variety.,......
You and me both. Theres a reason I've kept a small pile around. I like Victorinox too, but Wenger has always been more interesting to me.
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting

 :iagree:    :iagree:    :iagree:

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Antti Lammi on December 05, 2023, 02:10:13 PM
I hope Victorinox would do experiments on Delemont line for sake of Wenger innovative experiments of tool combos.


Only Tools Matters
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 07, 2023, 12:37:36 AM
Could anyone please help me identify this 2 layer Wenger?  It's like a Trailblazer but with the dog-leg can opener.  I'm guessing it's just an older version of the Trailblazer?

(https://i.imgur.com/Typz9Ta.jpg)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 07, 2023, 01:28:45 AM
Yep - I'd say fine to call it a Trailblazer -
Victorinox and Wenger did not usually change model names when an individual tool got updated with a new design

Or it could be a Highlander: https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Highlander - which seems to have the same configuration

It is clearly an older model -
So could be one the the Standard series: https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Standard+Series
Although this specific configuration does not seem to be on this page.

Or maybe it os a Classic model - eg Classic 11 - https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+85mm

 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on December 07, 2023, 02:51:06 AM
Trailblazer, Highlander, and Scout are all very similar.  Same four front tools with awl and phillips back tools.  All three of the above have the can opener on the blade end.  Yours is different from all of them in that respect.  I wonder if it originally had the short chain on the keychain nub?  Who knows.  Does it have toothpick and tweezers?  Best wishes.  G
 :)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 07, 2023, 03:06:47 AM
No provisions for toothpick or tweezers.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Sos24 on December 07, 2023, 07:06:21 AM
I'm a big fan too, always that little bit more quirky and inventive....didn't always work but always interesting
Might have to run an other Wenger challenge next year  :think:
I only have a couple Wenger, but I would be down

I hope Victorinox would do experiments on Delemont line for sake of Wenger innovative experiments of tool combos.


Only Tools Matters
Agree.  Unlike Vic, Wenger had some unique tools and combos which it would be nice to see resurface.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on December 07, 2023, 12:15:27 PM
   In the 1960s Wenger had a US distributor in Indiana, I think.  They generally used numbers for their stock.  The Wenger 750 is close to your knife.  This is not my photo.  I found a photo after I figured out the number.  No toothpick, no tweezers (Highlander and Trailblazers usually have both).  It has the Z can opener in the right location but it does have a bail.  It is always possible that the scales on yours aren't original.  Might be original, but just a different year.  Wenger changed things around A LOT.  Best wishes.  G  ;)
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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 07, 2023, 01:10:55 PM
I hope Victorinox would do experiments on Delemont line for sake of Wenger innovative experiments of tool combos.
Unfortunately this is not gonna happen  IMHO
Vic are reducing  not expanding their range
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on December 07, 2023, 02:27:54 PM
It has been a while since I posted a Wenger photo of something I actually own.  This one is a Highlander.  No small blade, just a nail file.  The file surface is facing the off-side scale (phillips side).   Keeps it from scratching the main blade, I suppose.   I have never carried this knife, just taken it out of the package for general knife piddling.  It is noticeably lighter than something like a Tinker.  Best wishes.  G
 :D
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Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 07, 2023, 03:16:39 PM
Thanks for the Wenger info Gary.  Much appreciated.

Looks like the broken right half of that scale was glued on with something that had a chemical reaction as that half of the scale looks distorted by heat.  I thought it was epoxy at first but when I put it in a hot bath, the glue turned very gummy and peeled off.  Might be the original scales but who knows.

I'm on the lookout for a Wenger that could potentially donate it's scales though I feel bad relieving another old Wenger of it's scales.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on December 07, 2023, 03:25:31 PM
Hi AC,
    You did an excellent job of restoration on that old Voss multi-tool.  I saw how it was before and handled it.  Since you are making 3D scales now anyway, that old Wenger would look fine with a set of your manufacture.  Might be able to sell a few pairs of scales to some of the members here with sad old busted Wengers.  Best wishes.  G
 ;)
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on December 07, 2023, 11:24:04 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: AzteCypher on December 08, 2023, 05:57:07 AM
Gary,
  Appreciate it.  :D  I'm still playing with the 3D printed scales on my Ranger.  I fine tuned my printer a bit more and printed a second set but they still fit tighter than I think they should.  I've learned that your printer needs to be tuned really well, just about exact, to print the scales out to the right dimensions.  I'm going to try again after I print some gifts for my in-laws (wife's request).  I think I'm getting there though.  Once I'm comfortable with the fitment I'll do a post on it.

Designing scales for a Wenger will be more of a struggle for me as I don't have good CAD software for it but it sounds like a fun challenge.
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: D-Eg on January 13, 2024, 10:46:07 PM
I like Wenger, not exactly sure why but I do. I have a few NOS models I need to post some pictures of them. But I also like Victorinox too - I have a couple of them, one I carry daily. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on January 13, 2024, 10:53:22 PM
What's not to like about Wenger?  Photos are really appreciated around here.  They are almost mandatory.  Good to see you posting some.  I hope you have some fun.  Nice people.  Lots you can learn.  Best wishes.  Gary (IMR)
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2024, 02:20:54 AM
I enjoy this one a lot so I carry it quite often.  I'm not as smooth with the can opener but I manage.  I like the tool load out a lot.  I do wished Wenger would have did an awl like Vic tho.  Not complaining just thinking outloud. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: IMR4198 on January 25, 2024, 02:35:36 AM
    I would gladly carry any of the three.  Wenger or either Case.  My style knives.  I looked at the videos for the new Case knives from the SHOT show.  No.  Just no.  I'm tired of flippers and clippers.  New Case knives don't look any different than fourteen dozen others.  Best wishes.  G
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Huntsman on January 25, 2024, 02:39:11 AM
Is that a Wenger Traveller? If so - Yes nice model

I really liked the Wenger awl as it was not sharp

Most blades on all SAKs are sharp - and sometimes you don't want sharp - eg untangling a knot or shoelaces etc
The Wenger awl was great for that

This is also IMHO the same reason why the much hated fish scaler is quite good

PS It is a sad day for Wenger fans - As it looks like Vic has killed off the 85mm line with their lovely scale materials and colours
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2024, 02:43:36 AM
 :salute: 

I haven't seen the new knives.  I enjoy when they bring out the vault patterns.       
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2024, 02:47:59 AM
Is that a Wenger Traveller? If so - Yes nice model

I really liked the Wenger awl as it was not sharp

Most blades on all SAKs are sharp - and sometimes you don't want sharp - eg untangling a knot or shoelaces etc
The Wenger awl was great for that

This is also IMHO the same reason why the much hated fish scaler is quite good

PS It is a sad day for Wenger fans - As it looks like Vic has killed off the 85mm line with their lovely scale materials and colours

Security/Sécurité 14 essentially a Traveller with locking blade.  That makes sense about the awl.  It really is sad for us Wenger fans.  I have a couple I regularly carry.  I am a huge fan of Wengers main blade.  Its so good.   
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on January 25, 2024, 05:03:48 PM
Here is another Wenger I really enjoy.  Thought I'd miss scissors but I was wrong.  I've always like the little chain Wenger put on their SAKs.  This is also one of 2 black SAKs I own.

 

Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Aloha on February 06, 2024, 05:21:45 PM
Much love for Wenger.  My Cyclist get carried mostly for work these days but I enjoy it randomly on my days off as well. 
Title: Re: Any love for Wenger?
Post by: Echotech on February 07, 2024, 05:41:48 AM
:like: :tu: