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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Mr. Whippy on December 19, 2011, 10:17:24 PM
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Alright! Very few SAKs have captured my eye and imagination like this new edition of Victorinox Executive.
So lets see 'em! Post up those Pre-historic beauties! :drool:
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z231/bluebadger88/misc/mammoth/IMG_1240.jpg)
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(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/152/f/e/Tumbleweed_by_Kaboku.gif)
:angel:
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Might be a very elite select group... But i'd kinda like one now. Nice picture
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Shh...
Don't tell my wife!
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z231/bluebadger88/misc/mammoth/2011-12-19_16-18-49_455.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z231/bluebadger88/misc/mammoth/2011-12-19_16-19-03_804.jpg)
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Looks nice for sure, but I don't think I could get one. Feels odd or kind of wrong to me to use mammoth ivory like that, feels like it should be in a museum. I know they aren't as rare as a trex skeleton or something, but I'd feel weird owning that. Just my opinion, but again, it does look really nice. Some knife makers still use pre-ban elephant ivory too though, so it has its market.
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No Mammoths were harmed in the making of these scales...
;)
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I haven't heard from Tim yet, but I do have one on its way whenever he gets them in.
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Not quite as stunning as my earlier one, but just have to look a little deeper for the beauty.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2151)
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How many of these does that make it for you? Do you carry any of them? (I like that smooth one very much)
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I haven't heard from Tim yet, but I do have one on its way whenever he gets them in.
:cheers:Chako, yours shipped on the 16th. :cheers:
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Great news Tim. Now I can't wait to get it in. :salute:
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What size are these made, I like them 84 or 91mm? :drool:
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Very cool, a limited club i think :D hopefully ill get the lotery up this week and ill join ;)
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How many of these does that make it for you? Do you carry any of them? (I like that smooth one very much)
I just have 2 but may get others if I can get good pictures of them first and the price is right. I have not carried them yet, but I expect one will become my dress knife of choice or when I need to travel light.
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What size are these made, I like them 84 or 91mm? :drool:
74mm
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What size are these made, I like them 84 or 91mm? :drool:
74mm
Yes. That's the only size, and the Executive model is the only model
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These scales are easy to made by yourself I think, the problem is
just to find the right pieces of scales with no cracks or just fine stabilized.
I'm hunting now for mammoth tooth pieces and try to made one
91mm by myself. :D
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These scales are easy to made by yourself I think, the problem is
just to find the right pieces of scales with no cracks or just fine stabilized.
I'm hunting now for mammoth tooth pieces and try to made one
91mm by myself. :D
If you find a source and want to split costs, let me know. I'm definitely in! :cheers:
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If you find a source and want to split costs, let me know. I'm definitely in! :cheers:
I got my mammoth pieces from these Danish guys.. :tu:
http://www.sortschou.dk/?menu=7 (http://www.sortschou.dk/?menu=7)
It'll probably end up in silly money though.. :think: :-\
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I went to that site, but honestly, I don't know if I could turn a block of mammoth tusk into a pair of scales. :-[
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According to Victorinox, the Ivory is very hard to work and takes a lot of patience and skill.
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I just ordered one from the man above me who writes in blue :D
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I just ordered one from the man above me who writes in blue :D
Well, then you've come to the right place. :cheers:
Pictures, however, are mandatory :police:
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I just ordered one from the man above me who writes in blue :D
:cheers:
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These scales are easy to made by yourself I think, the problem is
just to find the right pieces of scales with no cracks or just fine stabilized.
I'm hunting now for mammoth tooth pieces and try to made one
91mm by myself. :D
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33839.new.html#new (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33839.new.html#new) :drool: :drool:
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According to Victorinox, the Ivory is very hard to work and takes a lot of patience and skill.
I have carved SAK toothpicks from this material (with an SAK small blade of course) and found it to be honest and cooperative.
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Awesome!
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A fair swap?
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jhe/lowres/jhen105l.jpg (http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jhe/lowres/jhen105l.jpg)
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A fair swap?
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jhe/lowres/jhen105l.jpg (http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jhe/lowres/jhen105l.jpg)
He's definitely in :)
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I got one coming too from Felinevet.
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Got it. Cool knife. She weighs 61 grams.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/mammoth004.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/mammoth003.jpg)
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Fantastic scales!
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Super Cool scales!
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I just got my copy. First impressions are very good. Mine has a flat bottom scale with a top vaulted scale. It makes for a very nice and comfortable profile.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1589small.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1590small.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1591small.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1592small.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Album%202/SAM_1594small.jpg)
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Nice!
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Nice one Dan.. :tu:
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Thanks.
This is a lot nicer in person then what a picture can show.
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Fantastic scales there Chako!
I can't wait to check the mail tomorrow! :ahhh
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Here's a couple of other members :D
My wife has claimed the dark one:
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z231/bluebadger88/misc/mammoth/IMG954188.jpg)
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Here's a rather attractive piece to add to the quorum.
Karl
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Karl,
That one is very attractive! It actually looks similar to one of the scales on my wifes:
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z231/bluebadger88/misc/mammoth/IMG_1255.jpg)
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All unique. All attractive.
Karl
Photo question: How do you get a full-size image from an imported photo?
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I don't know. It's hosted on photobucket and maybe it's uploaded to a pre-determined size.
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I'm officially in :)
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victorinox-mammoth-tusk-executive-01.jpg)
I wanted a smooth one and it's actually much nicer than I expected it to be :tu:
One of the scales has split lengthwise and feels like it's almost coming off :ahhh
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My Mammoth Tusk Executive just arrived from Felinevet. :salute:
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj607/armee-suisse/d9a75ff6.jpg)
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj607/armee-suisse/ce6109f9.jpg)
(http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj607/armee-suisse/f0f01a7b.jpg)
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LaFhnysNbNU/TwcWVdnjujI/AAAAAAAAAFM/EMTMDBNIgF4/s1600/sakbuffet.jpg)
Had this one for about a week before it went back. Not a fan of the sloppy glue work. Was also not impressed by the tool selection of the executive. Wish this would have been made in a more useful 84mm with scissors.
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Interesting....
Peter Atwood complained about sloppy gluework on his Mammoth scaled tool also. :think:
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I honestly paid no attention until my wife pointed it out. Of course she paid for the knife and started pointing out it's flaws.
I've mentioned it to another proud swiss knife maker and he told me the scales are not swiss cut/finished. Curious who glues them on. A tiny bit of glue goes a long way.
Lastly, I have seen other mammoth scaled SAKS and really wish Victorinox would have put just a tiny bit more effort into it before release. I think I saw a 91 or 84 somewhere out there and the guy did an incredible job. I'll see if I can locate it.
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I honestly paid no attention until my wife pointed it out. Of course she paid for the knife and started pointing out it's flaws.
I've mentioned it to another proud swiss knife maker and he told me the scales are not swiss cut/finished. Curious who glues them on. A tiny bit of glue goes a long way.
Lastly, I have seen other mammoth scaled SAKS and really wish Victorinox would have put just a tiny bit more effort into it before release. I think I saw a 91 or 84 somewhere out there and the guy did an incredible job. I'll see if I can locate it.
Ong did one.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33839.msg560143.html#msg560143 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33839.msg560143.html#msg560143)
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That is what I am talking about!!
INCREDIBLE WORK!!!
To me, that is what VIC quality should be for what they are asking.
Thanks for finding the thread.
Disclaimer- Sorry to those that have this knife and like it. Enjoy it. My posts are only my opinion and personal views after receiving 2 different mammoth knives. Both had the same issues as mentioned in my previous posts.
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No glue work issues on mine, but there is an ugly crack in one of the scales. I know mammoth tusk ivory can have cracks but this just looks like a production issue :think:
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victorinox-mammoth-tusk-executive-02.jpg)
What do you guys think?
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I don't know how Mammoth tusk is to work, so I can't say. I have one that I EDC with a little glue running, but it doesn't bother me. The other two at my house have no glue issues.
I figured splits and cracks were par for the course, but when I look at ong's work, I don't know... :think:
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For $165.00, I could not live with running glue.
I wish I had not seen ONG's work. Maybe I would have been happy with the Vic version.
It's a personal thing. If you are happy, Enjoy.
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Ya I think if you are picky and want it as close to perfection as possible, it's the kind of thing you have to do yourself, or have a pro do it. The bark is not a homogenous material like other scale materials, and its going to crack etc.
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Agreed. I did'nt think it got any more professional than straight from Victorinox. Then again, they are trying to mass produce a product. I am just grateful I no longer have a horse in this race. Love the concept, dislike the product.
Enjoy your knives.
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Agreed. I did'nt think it got any more professional than straight from Victorinox. Then again, they are trying to mass produce a product. I am just grateful I no longer have a horse in this race. Love the concept, dislike the product.
Enjoy your knives.
I hear you. $165 is a lot to pay for a knife. I can see how the glue thing would tick people off. The cracks, etc, I sort of think that's to be expected for an organic, non produced scale material. Yes, someone who's talented with handling materials may be able to take scale material like this and produce a flaw free scale, but that's a far cry from scaling up to the level that Victorinox has to, to make a viable commercial product.
Again, I completely understand where you're coming from, but I have to say, even my glue marred Mammoth tusked Executive brings a huge smile to my face whenever I pull it out of my pocket. :tool:
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I would have a problem buying any hand finished knife for that money unseen, though I would not have had, until now, such a problem with SAKs.
However, sometimes you can not go to a shop.
What I tend to do, eg with my better slipjoints, is ask for a few good pictures of a few knives of the same model and then choose the best speciment.
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I will not mention the vendor but they were not willing to do that. The two knives I received were worlds apart. I will not by another specialty knife like this online or allow my wife to be so kind as to buy it for me online.
Case closed and sorry to Highjack a collectors thread. Just my two cents.
Take care.
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I will not mention the vendor but they were not willing to do that. The two knives I received were worlds apart. I will not by another specialty knife like this online or allow my wife to be so kind as to buy it for me online.
Case closed and sorry to Highjack a collectors thread. Just my two cents.
Take care.
I'm pretty sure I know the dealer you contacted (based on the price). I will say, I contacted a different dealer and was sent a series of pictures of the the knives they had. I was able to pick the exact one I wanted.
I completely understand your disappointment. If all of my Mammoth tusk vics had glue runs, I'd be disappointed too. :oops:
That said, my mammoth tusked vic feels great in hand and the blade is larger than a classic and is therefore MUCH more functional. The 74mm sized Vics are really a much more useful size (compared to the 58mm Vics)
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May have to get one of these now. I wonder how many they made? :think:
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Mine also had a poor gluing job and scales that were not flat on the back to fit flush on the liners. The dealer ("one of us" I believe) exchanged it for a very nice one.
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The price of these seems to have gone down.
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The price of these seems to have gone down.
The bad reports pretty much trashed my sales so I dropped my prices to my cost. The ones I have are not perfect but not bad either. I would (and do every day) carry one.
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Wow I didn't know that. I can't find anything wrong with the one you sold me.
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I like the new price... maybe I need one more.
I've been meaning to update the Wiki, but I've heard that there have been quite a few production issues with these. Some are kind of natural to my mind but some interpret the same thing such un uneven thickness as an undesirable cosmetic issue. The glue and the structural cracks I take more seriously. Apparantly this is something that Victorinox USA dreamed up (nice dream), but they had a third-party put them together, and they were not approved by Victorinox Switzerland. Can anyone confirm any of this information?
I REALLY like these, it's a shame that they were not up to the regular Vic standards in terms of the scales since they were a very premium price.
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I just ordered #8 today. I'll be joining you all officially with pix next week.
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Wow I didn't know that. I can't find anything wrong with the one you sold me.
I have sold 16 with no complaints or returns but there has been a buzz about others purchased elsewhere so I had to drop my price in order to sell. I stand behind anything I sell 100% so anyone not happy just let me know, no problem.
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I bought 3. Two are perfect but one had minor glue issues. It's my EDC and has no functional problems but i can understand how a pure collector would be unhappy about it.
That said: it is a fantastic knife in its own right.
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She is a beauty!!
Frank :cheers:
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That's a really nice one! I love the scales that have a lot of character. :)
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I think so too, and no cracks whatsoever :)
Edit: the nailnick on the file is a bit covered, as the scales are left little oversized all around.
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Mr. Whippy busted me in the other thread. This week is not over yet, so I'm not a liar yet either. ;) Here are the pix:
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/f553bb20.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/f9bc6afc.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/57907aba.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/4053828d.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/8dc8190f.jpg)
Among a 91mm Compact, 85mm Tinker, and 58mm Rambler:
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/jzorns/Knives/c774143c.jpg)
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I love the grain in the first photo. It gives texture even though the scale is smooth! Very nice example! :)
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Mr. Whippy busted me in the other thread. This week is not over yet, so I'm not a liar yet either. ;) Here are the pix:
Beautiful sand color, love the smooth look.
I hope you can fix the cracking, bad luck mate, I'm really sorry to see that.
Frank
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Mammoth Ivory
Stainless Director
Cellidor Executive
I'm used to the thin stainless, the tusk is nice handfilling.
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No Mammoths were harmed in the making of these scales...
;)
:rofl:
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No Mammoths were harmed in the making of these scales...
;)
:rofl:
Ok but dont come crying when you are haunted by ghosts of mammoths!