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Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on April 30, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
I am loving my recent 84mm SAK acquisitions.

Golfer
The Golfer came in amazingly good shape so I just cleaned it with a little isopropyl alcohol.  This is one is of the variety without the half stop on the combo-tool as well as the flat ground top on the combo-tool.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0773.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0774.jpg)

Lumberjack (Elinox tang stamp)
The Lumberjack came a little dirty with the scales showing some nasty finger prints "etched" into them.  I used some Brasso and polished the scales to a better finish (not shiny, but no finger prints).

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0769.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0771.jpg)

Tinker Small (w/old Phillips can-key)
The Tinker Small was basically destroyed.  The scales were lifting and scratched to death with "C E" carved into them.  The main blade was also bent, and both blades are dinged up.  I scrubbed the hell out of the knife with lots of soap and a toothbrush.  I then went back and tried to polish off a lot of the oxidation from the liners.  After a ton of cleaning and polishing I threw on some black scales I had.  Overall I am happy with the way it turned out.  I also bent the tip of the large blade back so it doesn't contact the other tools anymore.  I'm going to give it a good sharpening and probably use this knife, since it is not in collector shape.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0776.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0775.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0778.jpg)

Check out that can key!
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/IMAG0777.jpg)


Currently I think the 84mm SAK's are some of the coolest pocket knives out there.  Super compact and pocketable and very useful.  Maybe not as robust as the 91mm varieties, but close enough with a much smaller form factor.  If I can locate another 84mm Golfer it will definitely be an EDC knife for me.  It is a real shame Victorinox discontinued the 84mm scissors.  I almost think they work better than the 91mm variety and would allow some awesome knives to be made (such as an Alox Cadet with scissors or a revist of the old Voyageur).

Imagine a 3-layer 84mm Alox knife with the following tool layers:
- Main blade and Combination tool (components of an Alox Bantam)
- Saw (same one on the Lumberjack and the new "Cadet Plus")
- Scissors (same ones on the Golfer and old Voyageur)

This knife would fly off the shelves.  Make it in several colors (Orange, Red, Blue for instance)...and yes, you would have a serious well selling knife.  Does anyone disagree?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 30, 2011, 09:48:54 PM
Great SAKs and Great Photos!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on April 30, 2011, 09:52:37 PM
Great SAKs and Great Photos!
Thanks.  I actually snapped the photos with my EVO 4G phone.  The 8MP camera HTC put on this phone takes great photos for internet uploading (they don't look as good as my Canon G10 when blown up though).

I should also clarify that in addition to the 'dream' knife I spec'd out, a model with the same tools in cellidor could also support some back spring tools like the Philips driver and reamer.  That would be equally amazing...if not maybe cooler than the Alox knife.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 30, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
If only someone had made an 84mm SAK with combo, saw and scissors. :dd:

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/NewSAKscales007.jpg)

As you might guess I'm also a huge fan of the 84mm size. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JRAmmon on April 30, 2011, 10:14:38 PM
Very nice Sakquisitions!  :pok:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: HawkeyX on April 30, 2011, 10:21:21 PM
Nice. The old philips tinker small is right up there in my fave vic's. Looks like a good carry after you cleaned it up.
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: sousterre1 on April 30, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
84mm is the best line by far IMO. The tinker small is my favourite sak. When I first got into saks I thought 84's with scissors would be impossible to find, turns out they are more like just a bit difficult (if you know where to look) In fact a search for a sak to fit some 84mm scales that I bought as a result of my naive thinking that there was only one size sak Is the reason I ended up here. So here's to the 84mm's. :cheers: 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on April 30, 2011, 10:50:31 PM
Good catches  :tu: Totally agree on the size. One of the reasons I like my Wengers so much is the size 84/85mm just seems so right. I too never realised they came in different sizes and my first SAK was a Tourist. When I upgraded to Deluxe Tinker, even though we are only talking about 1/4" difference in length, I really did wish it had been the same size.

I've recently switched to a Wenger Motorist and absolutely love it.
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: sousterre1 on April 30, 2011, 11:12:46 PM
How about an 84mm super tinker. (http://tapatalk.com/mu/5284f837-7b12-a14e.jpg) sorry for the terrible pic, I'm still trying to figure out how to upload photos from my camera.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on April 30, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
If only someone had made an 84mm SAK with combo, saw and scissors. :dd:

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/NewSAKscales007.jpg)

As you might guess I'm also a huge fan of the 84mm size. :tu:
Oh man, with white scales to boot.  That is one of the most beautiful SAK's I have ever seen. If it had the less common "canary yellow" scales (did they ever even make them in 84mm?) that would definitely be the coolest SAK ever.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 01, 2011, 12:23:03 AM
Not sure I've ever seen 84mm yellow scales, but it would sure be nice. :)  If I was to be truly pedantic those are actually the older, slightly creamier ivory scales.  The difference is very subtle and can really only be seen when placed side-by-side with the totally white scales.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on May 01, 2011, 12:24:15 AM
I'm a 84/85mm man myself. That must be the reason I love wengers so much. One of the reasons I never got a vic compact is that it's a 91mm. If it were 84mm it would be perfect.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: nuphoria on May 01, 2011, 12:25:29 AM
Lovely stuff.... size really isn't everything ;)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on May 01, 2011, 04:42:47 AM
I'm a 84/85mm man myself. That must be the reason I love wengers so much. One of the reasons I never got a vic compact is that it's a 91mm. If it were 84mm it would be perfect.
You need yourself an 84mm Golfer.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on May 01, 2011, 02:46:44 PM
I'm a 84/85mm man myself. That must be the reason I love wengers so much. One of the reasons I never got a vic compact is that it's a 91mm. If it were 84mm it would be perfect.
You need yourself an 84mm Golfer.



Is that an offer? :pok: :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: edursr on May 01, 2011, 07:03:20 PM
Last weekend I went to Buenos Aires, in Argentina and found a 84mm model that I had been looking for a while to sell in the "Santelmo Antiques Fair"

a Cadet Rose Edition...
(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/edursr/IMG_1251Large.jpg)

(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/edursr/IMG_1252Large.jpg)

and my 84mm golfer with longfile, that I really like!
(http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac236/edursr/IMG_1249Large.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on May 01, 2011, 09:19:57 PM
The Golfer with long file is very cool.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: sousterre1 on May 03, 2011, 01:57:08 PM
84mm Climber.

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/sousterre1/005.jpg)


84mm, I think it's a golfer but I could find nothing about it on sakwiki.

(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j420/sousterre1/006.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: gustophersmob on May 03, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
Imagine a 3-layer 84mm Alox knife with the following tool layers:
- Main blade and Combination tool (components of an Alox Bantam)
- Saw (same one on the Lumberjack and the new "Cadet Plus")
- Scissors (same ones on the Golfer and old Voyageur)

This knife would fly off the shelves.  Make it in several colors (Orange, Red, Blue for instance)...and yes, you would have a serious well selling knife.  Does anyone disagree?

I know I would buy several of each color if they were to ever do this!  :drool:

Sadly, it seems this will never happen, short of a mod...  :'(
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on May 03, 2011, 03:35:23 PM
84mm, I think it's a golfer but I could find nothing about it on sakwiki.


See my post on this thread - http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html)
Similar knife and similar situation - no real name, but most collectors would call that a Golfer variant (some collectors call all knives Golfers, but that's a different story  :D). Looks to be an early-mid 70s model with the main blade replaced (I think looking at the pics). I looked for the Vic number but couldn't find it - the only version of this knife they have in the older catalogs is the long file version (244 ka).
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 03, 2011, 06:37:14 PM
84mm, I think it's a golfer but I could find nothing about it on sakwiki.


See my post on this thread - http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html)
Similar knife and similar situation - no real name, but most collectors would call that a Golfer variant (some collectors call all knives Golfers, but that's a different story  :D). Looks to be an early-mid 70s model with the main blade replaced (I think looking at the pics). I looked for the Vic number but couldn't find it - the only version of this knife they have in the older catalogs is the long file version (244 ka).
looks to be listed on this page as a Golfer.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=55&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=920&scalesize=o (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=55&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=920&scalesize=o)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: sousterre1 on May 04, 2011, 02:44:25 AM
84mm, I think it's a golfer but I could find nothing about it on sakwiki.


See my post on this thread - http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27785.0.html)
Similar knife and similar situation - no real name, but most collectors would call that a Golfer variant (some collectors call all knives Golfers, but that's a different story  :D). Looks to be an early-mid 70s model with the main blade replaced (I think looking at the pics). I looked for the Vic number but couldn't find it - the only version of this knife they have in the older catalogs is the long file version (244 ka).
looks to be listed on this page as a Golfer.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=55&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=920&scalesize=o (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=55&sort_mode=imageId_asc&imageId=920&scalesize=o)

Ah ha, didn't check that section. So how many golfer variations are there?  :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on May 04, 2011, 04:57:24 AM
Ah ha, didn't check that section. So how many golfer variations are there?  :ahhh

If you're talking variations down to the tool design level (i.e. different combo tools, clip vs spear point), scales, etc - lots. Probably at least 15. Most people don't get that detailed, though. Major feature variations? Let's see:

Base model of main blade, scissors plus:
- Small blade, corkscrew, long file
- Small blade, corkscrew
- Caplifter
- Combo tool, corkscrew
- Combo tool, corkscrew, long file

So 5 main variations I can thing of in the 84mm version.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sidhartha on May 04, 2011, 10:38:38 PM
i made my own special edition bantam  :rofl:
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC03475.jpg)
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC03487.jpg)
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC06484.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sazabi on May 04, 2011, 10:40:52 PM
i made my own special edition bantam  :rofl:
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC03475.jpg)
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC03487.jpg)
(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab214/sakoholic/venta/DSC06484.jpg)

You need to make extras to share. :pok: :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: gustophersmob on May 05, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
i made my own special edition bantam  :rofl:

You need to make extras to share. :pok: :D

+1

Nice work! :gimme:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ironraven on May 06, 2011, 03:45:34 AM
You need to make extras to share. :pok: :D

What he said. :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 07, 2011, 03:12:52 AM
Damn.... looked fantastic on the other forum... and I'll say it again.... Absolutely Fabulous!!!.   :salute:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: njfist on May 09, 2011, 10:40:33 PM
A True 84mm Farmer - with Awl
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: victor7000 on May 10, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
My new Golfer 84mm. This is the "true" Golfer  ;)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_FNlpQ5hIeCc/TcfXGm48UBI/AAAAAAAAB9M/EolZPali6-4/s800/DSCN0003.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on May 11, 2011, 02:54:06 AM
My new Golfer 84mm. This is the "true" Golfer  ;)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_FNlpQ5hIeCc/TcfXGm48UBI/AAAAAAAAB9M/EolZPali6-4/s800/DSCN0003.JPG)
Nice!  Where did you score this one?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloxfan on May 11, 2011, 06:22:34 AM
Not sure I've ever seen 84mm yellow scales, but it would sure be nice. :)

Apparently they were made:
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/yellow84_2.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/yellow84.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 11, 2011, 08:03:09 AM
cool. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on October 31, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
This thread needs some attention. Here's an interesting one - officially called a 232kaU by Victorinox. It's not a Golfer, but rather a cellidor version of the alox Voyageur from the late 1960s.

This was an odd knife at the time, as the only 84mm knives with cap lifter combo-tools were the Elinox branded alox knives. The alox versions all had unpolished tools and "Elinox" stamps, where as the 232kaU has fully polished tools and a "Victoria" stamp. The oddest thing about this knife is that has a nickel-silver divider between the layers, just like the Voyageur. I unofficially and unimaginatively call this a "Cellidor Voyageur".

(http://sakregistry.com/bbsimg/DSC_7746s.jpg)

Together with an alox Voyageur from the same era:

(http://sakregistry.com/bbsimg/DSC_7750.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: meanx on November 01, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
My 84mm love is definitely Recruits, I've got one tucked away everywhere, the scales on the Zebra one I took from a spare Bantam.

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/MeanX101/Recruits.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: badwolf on November 01, 2011, 09:28:27 PM
Not sure I've ever seen 84mm yellow scales, but it would sure be nice. :)

Apparently they were made:
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/yellow84_2.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/vr6ofpain/yellow84.jpg)
Man, those yellows are sweet :drool: never seen yellow before :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 02, 2011, 06:22:19 PM
This thread needs some attention. Here's an interesting one - officially called a 232kaU by Victorinox. It's not a Golfer, but rather a cellidor version of the alox Voyageur from the late 1960s.

This was an odd knife at the time, as the only 84mm knives with cap lifter combo-tools were the Elinox branded alox knives. The alox versions all had unpolished tools and "Elinox" stamps, where as the 232kaU has fully polished tools and a "Victoria" stamp. The oddest thing about this knife is that has a nickel-silver divider between the layers, just like the Voyageur. I unofficially and unimaginatively call this a "Cellidor Voyageur".

(http://sakregistry.com/bbsimg/DSC_7746s.jpg)

......
Nice! I just have a couple without the shackle.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: dks on November 02, 2011, 08:01:45 PM
My 84mm love is definitely Recruits

They are sexy little things.
It makes it hard to justify carrying the 91mm models.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 04, 2011, 03:34:48 AM
Vintage Victorinox/Victoria 237kU, it has seen quite a bit of use. The saw is really pollished on this one. 

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jerseydevil on November 04, 2011, 04:05:04 AM
84mms are great little knives. I have three at the moment, a Bantam, an Alox Bantam, and a Cadet. I just saw in the newest SMKW catalog that they have small Tinkers in stock, going to have to get one, and a Recruit, and.......
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on November 04, 2011, 05:27:36 AM
Vintage Victorinox/Victoria 237kU, it has seen quite a bit of use. The saw is really pollished on this one.
Nice one - I really wanted that one  :ahhh

All 84mm and 91mm saws - except for on the Elinox knives - are fully polished until the early 1960s. Some of the earliest "small awl" versions (back when they still had the shackle) have the polished saw, but they seemed to disappear pretty quickly and the vast majority of the knives made after the switch to the small awl are unpolished.

Is that a 25 or 35 tooth saw?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 04, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Vintage Victorinox/Victoria 237kU, it has seen quite a bit of use. The saw is really pollished on this one.
Nice one - I really wanted that one  :ahhh

All 84mm and 91mm saws - except for on the Elinox knives - are fully polished until the early 1960s. Some of the earliest "small awl" versions (back when they still had the shackle) have the polished saw, but they seemed to disappear pretty quickly and the vast majority of the knives made after the switch to the small awl are unpolished.

Is that a 25 or 35 tooth saw?
Ah, that's why I had to pay a little more than expected for it.  I thought the saw was 32 teeth, but it's likely 35; that would mean it's clearly not the 25 though.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 25, 2011, 07:31:49 AM
An interesting mint "ECONOMY" (reverse tang) Lumberjack variant with a regular caplifter rather than the combo tool (2.1311).  I would have expected such a knife to have an Elinox stamp on the obverse, not Victorinox.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2103)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kirk13 on November 25, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
My 84mm love is definitely Recruits, I've got one tucked away everywhere, the scales on the Zebra one I took from a spare Bantam.

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa226/MeanX101/Recruits.jpg)

This is sad:Love the blue Standard Bank one!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jan. on November 25, 2011, 11:39:25 PM
My alox 84mm.
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding043-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jan. on November 25, 2011, 11:47:38 PM
I have not only alox anymore,  but I have some other old SAK's to. :D
This is an like new 84mm from 1946 I think.

(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding032-1.jpg)
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding029-5.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sazabi on November 25, 2011, 11:49:35 PM
I have not only alox anymore,  but I have some other old SAK's to. :D
This is an like new 84mm from 1946 I think.

(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding032-1.jpg)
(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx190/janblokvoort/Afbeelding029-5.jpg)

 :ahhh  Want. :drool:  I wish they still made them in that style. ;_;
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 26, 2011, 03:29:30 AM
The Lady Golfer?  Even a Swiss Army Knife can be elegant.  The picture does not do her justice though, I'll have to work on that.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=30019;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ColoSwiss on November 26, 2011, 05:55:10 AM
That pearl Golfer is beautiful, and then some.   :tu:

Karl
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: meanx on November 26, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
The Lady Golfer?  Even a Swiss Army Knife can be elegant.  The picture does not do her justice though, I'll have to work on that.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=30019;image)

A real looker  :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Reinier on November 26, 2011, 03:08:13 PM
Was that the expensive one I saw on eBay? :pok: I love it!

And Jan, did you get that one from a guy from Amersfoort?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on November 26, 2011, 03:11:22 PM
Well here's my EDCsource buy.  No ordinary Climber, but an 84mm one. :tu:

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/84mmClimber003.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: victor7000 on November 26, 2011, 07:48:29 PM
Mini Farmer +B
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9w2hLOJVJPw/TtDy85psp0I/AAAAAAAADZ0/vzAwKcAbwTE/s800/DSCN5220_r.jpg)

Mini Farmer Brothers
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hwY4BfxNqyw/TtDy-FBJCoI/AAAAAAAADaA/kZ3Z8EMdZH8/s800/DSCN5224_r.jpg)

Cousins
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KY2H-0xGGpQ/TtDy8VRkyZI/AAAAAAAADZw/5ieiI2KV5-o/s800/DSCN5230_r.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jan. on November 26, 2011, 07:54:01 PM

And Jan, did you get that one from a guy from Amersfoort?

No! I have this one from someone who did collecting just an few SAK's in the past
and offers these at me for now.
I don't know what I bought, just that these ones are old and goodlooking.
But I learn fast. ;)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bren10man on November 30, 2011, 06:23:38 AM
L-R, T-B:  Climber (small), NIB Salesman (box marked Super Tinker), NIB Tinker (small), Hoffritz Tinker

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/bren10man/DSC_0241.jpg)

'Tis a shame Victorinox does not make the top two anymore.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Jmora on November 30, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
Well here's my EDCsource buy.  No ordinary Climber, but an 84mm one. :tu:

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/84mmClimber003.jpg)

...wow, only a fool would have let that one go  :o...oh wait a second  :-\
 :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 04, 2011, 07:14:41 PM
Man Gareth is lucky I didn't see that one on EDCSource; beautiful!

Ha... that Silver Cadet Plus is being refered to as a Micro Farmer by +B, not Mini Farmer the earlier ones were tagged with.  SAKwiki is calling them all Cadet II Plus.  It's a nice combination.

That Firesteel Cadet posted in another thread should be in this thread as well.  That's an exceptional piece, first one made I believe right?

Another nice thing about 84mm knives is they can be found in Smooth Alox a whole lot easier than their bigger 91mm brothers.  I got this one cheap; probably because its got a little character.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2115)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: victor7000 on December 04, 2011, 07:56:02 PM
... and here it is! Firesteel Cadet.  ;)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pFSs9AhxbYs/TtENdWk9tfI/AAAAAAAADcw/4aWh-vr-BvM/s800/1_DSCN5316_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_5BDDkiIexo/TtENcINpSfI/AAAAAAAADck/J-IZEEtcTX4/s800/2_DSCN5314_r.jpg)

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 10, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
Wow love the Fire Striker Cadet!  Nice to see something new in the 84mm line.

Here is an old smooth alox advertising knife with a nice sheild on the bottom scale (also has small clip-point blade).

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2132)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gadget Guy on December 15, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
Micro Farmer:

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p306/Smelp/EDC%20Gear/MicroFarmer007.jpg)

Thought I would post here as well.   :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 15, 2011, 03:16:16 AM
Super flashlight GG, don't think I've ever seen that one. is that a Ti head on that or SS?  Love the body anodizing too.

How about some blue in here, after all we're going to be welcoming new blue Cadets soon.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2144)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 15, 2011, 04:05:32 AM
I was working on a comparison shot to show how much darker the red scales were on earlier SAKs, as I really like the darker color.  While I was looking around for a newer one, I found another old one and a couple other 84mm SAKs and decided to do a group shot which I rarely do. Gotta love 84mm.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2148)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gadget Guy on December 15, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
Super flashlight GG, don't think I've ever seen that one. is that a Ti head on that or SS?  Love the body anodizing too.

How about some blue in here, after all we're going to be welcoming new blue Cadets soon.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2144)

Thanks!  :cheers:  That Arc was a limited run and it came that way. The body and head are both aluminum.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: victor7000 on December 15, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
WOW! This blue Cadet is a beauty  :cheers:

It will fit perfectly with his new blue brother....

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qUfCfNqNJ3A/TuNSSXZh5vI/AAAAAAAADg0/puOaBKPGwEM/s800/1_DSCN5460_r.jpg)

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on December 28, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
84mm Artisan in new black scales. Even has the hole for the straight pin.

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2011/12/victorinox-84mm-artisan.html (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2011/12/victorinox-84mm-artisan.html)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iKMuzSP0YXY/TvLXvk5-txI/AAAAAAAAQkY/SpozxX-hIcA/s288/Black%25252084mm%252520Artisan-04.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on December 28, 2011, 07:51:40 PM
Well so far my 84's are a Tourist, Salesman, Climber Small and Golfer. The Golfer has been in my pocket constantly through the holiday season so far and has been outstanding. I've got a Compact on the way with all the benefits the plus scales bring, but the 84mm just rides so well in the little jeans pocket

EDIT: Forgot I've got an 84mm MFV too  :oops:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: dodge_911 on December 28, 2011, 11:08:20 PM
Got my membership to the 84mm club in the mail yesterday.
(http://cl.ly/1W0x0p2Q2c2q3x3z1X3n/2011_12_27_14h27_new_saks_044.jpg)
Really like the size of them ;)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 29, 2011, 06:03:39 AM
dodge_911, really nice photo .
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: tattoosteve99 on December 29, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
Mmm did Victorinox make a BO mini farmer with black scales?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: dodge_911 on December 31, 2011, 04:26:20 AM
dodge_911, really nice photo .
Thanks man!
Too bad I don't live near Boston, though...
Otherwise I could photograph your entire collection.
I'm a freelance event photo- and videographer, and I wanted to mess about a bit with product shots, so my new SAK's were volunteered to model :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gott on February 02, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
Hello!
I liked the photos of knives, which are placed in the subject.  :tu:
I also have a Tinker. I got used to it and all the while carrying a pocket of jeans. Here's the knife.

(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x501/4f2ada93-72f9-9808-2005-677a52424a49/Victorinox_34_.jpg)
(http://f1.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x500/4f2ad973-2200-4271-2005-dbf302bb9030/Victorinox_23_.jpg)

On the hilt of the knife has never been the emblem Viktorinoks. There is only a company name on the blade.
Black pattern on the handle, I paid myself. Chisel on wood. To knife different from other people like it. All my friends have the same knife. And they were all the same. Unmarked ..
Now I have my knife is always fast differs from the others, if they are close by. If we find ourselves with friends outdoors, or just drink beer at a large table in a bar soccer
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Reinier on February 02, 2012, 08:33:58 PM
So you did that yourself? It looks very nice!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gott on February 02, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
So you did that yourself? It looks very nice!
Thank you!
Yes. I made this thread itself.

To me this is my knife a lot.
He recently rescued me. When I walked in the evening on a city street, and I tried to rob two drunken guy..

(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x540/4f2adaee-3275-3c04-2005-5e8212ceee45/Victorinox_2_.jpg)
(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x550/4f2adbc5-28af-7d8c-2005-7d1d0814afcd/Victorinox_14_.jpg)
(http://f1.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x630/4f2adb9d-3036-bc59-2005-d377108d6e18/Victorinox_12_.jpg)
(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x630/4f2adb7c-4fad-49bc-2005-79306f169bfd/Victorinox_10_.jpg)

They were then very painful ... :twak:

It's nothing that I'm writing about this here? Forgive me if you can not.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gott on February 02, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
And here's some of my knives:
Climber
(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x501/4ebd7a32-c47b-6d90-2005-ced8e4c0bfd1/Victorinox_climber_4_.jpg)
(http://f1.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x501/4ebd79e0-9175-7cad-2005-fc81b1ceaeec/Victorinox_climber.jpg)
(http://f2.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/668x501/4ebd7a21-6833-46b4-2005-50f0488894f5/Victorinox_climber_3_.jpg)
Soldier, Cadet
(http://f1.foto.rambler.ru/preview/r/500x446/47a4498c-5805-c5c1-2005-f4ba78be1780/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bladechick777 on February 03, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
The Cadet Is My Favorite 84mm SAK.

Also, You Were Trying To Rob Two Drunk Guys, Or The Two Drunk Guys Were Trying To Rob You?  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: J Mackrel Jones on February 03, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
Yeah - Fess up.  We won't tell.
Beautiful work on the handles.  Nice work on the drunks.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 18, 2012, 06:19:37 AM
Buffalo Horn handled Tourist.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2196)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Reinier on February 18, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
:drool:
That's beautiful! Is the other side similar?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 18, 2012, 12:42:21 PM
:drool:
That's beautiful! Is the other side similar?
No the other side is mostly a deep black. Still nice though.
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: nsa-x-file on February 19, 2012, 10:59:31 AM
Buffalo Horn handled Tourist.


Great looking knife, did they make many models with those scales?

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Reinier on February 19, 2012, 11:31:37 AM
Buffalo Horn handled Tourist.
Great looking knife, did they make many models with those scales?

They did. According to a catalog from the 1950s or 1960s several 74mm, 75mm, 84mm and 91mm models were available with horn scales.

Here's a Spartan-like model (91mm so off topic in this thread ;) ):

(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/victorinox-victoria-armee-suisse-234H-spartan-02-front.jpg)

I also have a Victoria branded knife with a single clip point blade and horn scales coming my way 8)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 01, 2012, 10:00:19 PM
Cadet with small Clip-Point.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=33308;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Waterlander on May 24, 2012, 12:00:37 AM
Some beautiful 84 vics! Thanks for showing guys. Keep them coming  :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: KTO on May 25, 2012, 02:15:42 AM

Hi,

I have this kind of old alox bantam, but I am wondering waht is the value of it today?

http://www.smartknives.com/Victorinox-Knives/Victorinox-Bantam-Alox-Orig.htm (http://www.smartknives.com/Victorinox-Knives/Victorinox-Bantam-Alox-Orig.htm)

Does anyone has any idea?

Thanks in advance

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on May 25, 2012, 03:16:44 AM
Got any pictures? Condition is everything.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: KTO on May 25, 2012, 09:43:15 PM
no pictures, but it is brand new  :tool:
I will try to take photo if needed
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on May 25, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
There is one for sale on eBay right now that is in pretty good condition. Its due to sell later on today so I guess we will know the approximate value then.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on May 25, 2012, 10:22:07 PM
There is one for sale on eBay right now that is in pretty good condition. Its due to sell later on today so I guess we will know the approximate value then.

Yea, but that one has the disadvantage of marketing etched on the blade and 3***3 as one of the bidders.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on May 25, 2012, 10:55:11 PM
no pictures, but it is brand new  :tool:
I will try to take photo if needed
Does it look like this one?

http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2012/04/victorinox-alox-bantam-ribbed-scales.html (http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2012/04/victorinox-alox-bantam-ribbed-scales.html)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2mNjTS_Nw7U/T1vBt3juBNI/AAAAAAAAR5I/E3av43TQRZU/s800/Old%252520Alox%252520Bantam%252520combo%252520tool-08.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: KTO on May 25, 2012, 11:42:32 PM
exactly, but without any labeling
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on May 25, 2012, 11:49:19 PM
Does Stressmasters have the same logo as the one on ebay?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on May 25, 2012, 11:55:38 PM
Mine has the paint coming off. I only like the silver ones with no paint.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmalox002.jpg)
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmalox001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on May 26, 2012, 12:26:26 AM
Does Stressmasters have the same logo as the on on ebay?
I do believe its the same logo.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sidhartha on May 26, 2012, 01:10:51 AM
Buffalo Horn handled Tourist.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2196)

beautiful!   :drool: :drool:  victorinox needs to make more of them!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: KTO on June 11, 2012, 11:25:49 PM
Still no info regrding the value of the old bantam?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on June 11, 2012, 11:29:26 PM
The one on ebay went for around $80 I think.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on June 11, 2012, 11:45:30 PM
I think it was $77.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 12, 2012, 12:48:14 AM
Still no info regrding the value of the old bantam?
Since yours is mint with no advertising you will have to extrapolate your own idea for the price value of that knife. Here is the listing for one with advertising that recently sold on eBay. I suppose you could use that to guide you. :think:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=270983563962&nma=true&rt=nc&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3Fclk_rvr_id%3D352644774461%26_nkw%3D270983563962%26_rdc%3D1&si=865s9etpyOKntVtILhamaQZzFII%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=270983563962&nma=true&rt=nc&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3Fclk_rvr_id%3D352644774461%26_nkw%3D270983563962%26_rdc%3D1&si=865s9etpyOKntVtILhamaQZzFII%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: KTO on June 14, 2012, 12:00:53 AM
ok, thx for the info and the link :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 30, 2012, 07:20:41 PM
Victorinox  (VSSR/OS+cb) 84mm Smooth Alox Cadet-II with rotated Federal shield.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 15, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
An 84mm Climber with uncommon Cracked-Ice scales.  I can't remember if I have seen these scales on the standard 84mm knife, usually we see them on the Gents and Ladies style knives.  Never used, in excellent shape.


(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=48655;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 15, 2013, 01:42:19 PM
Some smooth green; a Cadet II advertising knife.  Just has a few nicks in the finish.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=48670;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 15, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
A trio of great catches!

That 'cracked ice' is rare. Genuine MOP seems to be far more common.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on April 16, 2013, 03:31:04 AM
There is one for sale on eBay right now that is in pretty good condition. Its due to sell later on today so I guess we will know the approximate value then.

Yea, but that one has the disadvantage of marketing etched on the blade and 3***3 as one of the bidders.

Who is 3***3?  And why is that a bad thing?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: invitus on April 16, 2013, 04:19:48 AM
Hope this a correct thread to ask...Is there any climber-small came with a hook?
Thank you
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 16, 2013, 05:50:14 AM
There is one for sale on eBay right now that is in pretty good condition. Its due to sell later on today so I guess we will know the approximate value then.

Yea, but that one has the disadvantage of marketing etched on the blade and 3***3 as one of the bidders.

Who is 3***3?  And why is that a bad thing?
He was someone that ripped off a number of people with an ebay scam, and the help of a couple friends. There is a thread about his bidding scam, as well as his full ebayid.

Hope this a correct thread to ask...Is there any climber-small came with a hook?
Thank you
No the hook is a 91mm tool only. See SAKWiki.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: invitus on April 16, 2013, 08:53:10 AM
Thanks for your fast reply sir..and sorry for not to trust the Sakwiki...I have seen the Sakwiki all the time actually...but someone claim that he has a climber-small with a hook attach...now I will use the Sakwiki and believe..lol


Hope this a correct thread to ask...Is there any climber-small came with a hook?
Thank you
No the hook is a 91mm tool only. See SAKWiki.
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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on April 16, 2013, 05:01:14 PM
There is one for sale on eBay right now that is in pretty good condition. Its due to sell later on today so I guess we will know the approximate value then.

Yea, but that one has the disadvantage of marketing etched on the blade and 3***3 as one of the bidders.

Who is 3***3?  And why is that a bad thing?
He was someone that ripped off a number of people with an ebay scam, and the help of a couple friends. There is a thread about his bidding scam, as well as his full ebayid.


Here's the tread about the scammer: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33787.msg548752.html#msg548752

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on April 21, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
An old 84mm like this one is such a thing of beauty.. tough and beautiful.  It might weigh a little more than cellidor models today, but these babies are worth trading Alox for.

84mm Fieldmaster configuration (aka Artisan/Vintage Craftsman/Fieldmaster-small).


(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=49112;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nhoj on April 22, 2013, 04:18:09 AM
All I can say about that is WOW
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on May 10, 2013, 09:07:13 PM
Gotta love those old red alox Cadets!
http://sakfan.blogspot.com/2013/04/vintage-victorinox-ribbed-alox-cadets.html
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YBfFkBSgFc4/UUOsDxgXRbI/AAAAAAAAam0/MNUzrNJ27k4/s400/DSCN0410.JPG)
http://youtu.be/J_fI-KfzuGE
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 11, 2013, 05:11:04 PM
Early green Alox. A little wear and tear on the handles, but blade is nice and it's clear that this one was made before their move to ceramic tumbling for polishing.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=50244;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Chako on May 11, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
Green is such a lovely colour.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 396988 on May 11, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Green is such a lovely colour.
+1, that and purple.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Herman on May 13, 2013, 12:59:38 PM
"84mm Fieldmaster configuration (aka Artisan/Vintage Craftsman/Fieldmaster-small)." 
NIB?! Awesome... :tu:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Styerman on May 14, 2013, 04:12:14 AM
I wish they would offer more 84mm's ( gotta have scissors and saws ) .

Chris
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ameeks on May 14, 2013, 09:51:38 AM

84mm Fieldmaster configuration (aka Artisan/Vintage Craftsman/Fieldmaster-small).

Beautiful knife right there.
I picked up a ribbed Cadet II yesterday.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on May 14, 2013, 10:04:06 AM
I wish they would offer more 84mm's ( gotta have scissors and saws ) .

Chris

You mean like this one?:

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20130429_222559_zpse635bcb9.jpg)

PTRSAK is the man!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: crackout on May 14, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Or if you like stock tools.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img248/9872/p10109141m.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/4229/p10109131.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on May 14, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
I see your and raise you a cadet plus scissors (I know you have one too :P):

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20130429_221658_zps341a50a7.jpg)

Old school full tang blade, 2 thin liners (thick ones went to mini farmer II+), and no keyring.

The mini farmer II+ (aka Warden) feels very light and thin in the hand for all the tools.  It is a miracle!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 16, 2013, 12:14:37 AM
"84mm Fieldmaster configuration (aka Artisan/Vintage Craftsman/Fieldmaster-small)." 
NIB?! Awesome... :tu:
Thanks! I love it!  Yup NIB; There is a slightly better picture in the SAKwiki 84mm gallery.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: crackout on May 21, 2013, 07:09:53 PM
I see your and raise you a cadet plus scissors (I know you have one too :P):

Mh, fine then. How about a red shield black Cadet with scissors? >:D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/1706/p1020703s.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/8353/p1020700n.jpg)

And how about a set of replacement tools? :angel:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5756/p1020704sf.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: gw8433 on June 01, 2013, 03:19:57 AM
 :sak:
my 84mm
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: meanx on June 01, 2013, 06:55:41 AM
:sak:
my 84mm

Very nice
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 396988 on June 02, 2013, 01:33:31 AM
Early green Alox.....

ICanFixThat, what is the shield on the other side of the green alox, does it have the old cross?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on June 02, 2013, 01:44:49 AM
Early green Alox.....

ICanFixThat, what is the shield on the other side of the green alox, does it have the old cross?

No shield, many of the alox Excelsiors have no shield or cross in all the colors and silver.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: hiljentaa on June 02, 2013, 02:25:07 AM
Pulled my old ecoline Waiter out today. Almost forgot I had it.

I love nylon scales - I wish they were available as spares (particularly in black or white).
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: neverused on June 02, 2013, 06:41:18 AM
Not as beautiful as the work by syph007, but this was my first mod, and the only 84mm alox w/ a back tool that comes to mind.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/02/ydaduqag.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/02/ejegaju7.jpg)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=34182.0
My new EDC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=34182.0
My new EDC)

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on June 07, 2013, 02:00:20 AM
84mm Climber LNF. I had a spring for the scissors.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmclimber001_zps1ebd4364.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/84mmclimber001_zps1ebd4364.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: twiliter on June 07, 2013, 06:18:37 PM
Salesman with can key phillips, gold shield, and single spring scissors. One of my favorites!  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: twiliter on June 07, 2013, 06:32:08 PM
'84 84
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: captain spaulding on June 07, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
Not as beautiful as the work by syph007, but this was my first mod, and the only 84mm alox w/ a back tool that comes to mind.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/02/ydaduqag.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/02/ejegaju7.jpg)

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=34182.0
My new EDC (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=34182.0
My new EDC)

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Nice work.  Love that.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on June 17, 2013, 09:58:12 PM
I finally gave in and bought me some red shield Danish Alox Cadets and Bantams.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vHU_G1sd7CE/Ub9i6HI52BI/AAAAAAAAfjI/mdgi4kPO22Q/s800/Danish%2520Alox-4.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-riHJM5aJqGc/Ub9iwgdax4I/AAAAAAAAfiA/9JSZMxuXnMw/s800/Danish%2520Alox-3.JPG)





Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: crackout on October 20, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
Had to take some pics today.  :D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/5959/f3xs.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img542/7945/iy4r.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on October 20, 2013, 04:49:43 PM
That looks like a good one crackout. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 20, 2013, 06:38:52 PM
Where did you get those Danish beauties? Or am I three years too late?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bmot on October 20, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
Where did you get those Danish beauties? Or am I three years too late?


http://www.thegoodstuffshop.dk/group.asp?group=4330


there you go. Great guy to deal with, too.  :salute:  Even dropped by on the forum after he noticed all of us buying his stuff  :D


Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 20, 2013, 09:10:12 PM
Wow! I love this shade of green!
My wallet hates you!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on October 20, 2013, 09:48:24 PM
Wow! I love this shade of green!
My wallet hates you!

It's still way cheaper than the most of colored ALOX SAKs nowadays. :P

 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 20, 2013, 10:11:31 PM
Yeah... I've never even seen an Alox Bantam for sale before. So a green one for 23 Euros is a bargain.

I really would love a Harvester/Farmer... but one or two Bantams are just irresistible. Might get a Cadet as well, although it seems like the Bantam is a Cadet, just smaller...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bmot on October 20, 2013, 10:14:48 PM
Yeah... I've never even seen an Alox Bantam for sale before. So a green one for 23 Euros is a bargain.

I really would love a Harvester/Farmer... but one or two Bantams are just irresistible. Might get a Cadet as well, although it seems like the Bantam is a Cadet, just smaller...


I personally find the Alox Bantam a bit too small, even, for regular use... It's -really- thin... Still wish I'd had got a Cadet... Hmmm, maybe I'll get a Cadet...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on October 20, 2013, 10:16:02 PM
You lose the nail file and the ability to use the can opener as a phillips if you go Bantam but yeah, it's thinner. :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 20, 2013, 10:26:19 PM
Hm, might have to buy all the Aloxes in Denmark and find out for myself which I prefer...

That green is - wow. The best colour I've seen.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 20, 2013, 10:50:34 PM
Just ordered a Cadet and Bantam, Danish style, Green...
I decided against getting anything in black because, well, how rare is that?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: CanadianLMfan on October 20, 2013, 11:33:35 PM
 :gimme:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ttpower on October 21, 2013, 03:34:29 PM
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w292/TiTipower/IMG_1291.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/TiTipower/media/IMG_1291.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Lynn LeFey on October 21, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
I've got one of those! Once again, I prefer the plain un-anodized scales.

I had a Recruit that I gave to my sister, and I traded off a Small Tinker. I really like the 84mm frame size, and have considered getting a new Small Tinker.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on October 21, 2013, 07:12:34 PM
Welcome, ttpower. :waving:

Nice Cadet. I prefer the silver ones as well, that or black. :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ttpower on October 22, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Welcome, ttpower. :waving:

Nice Cadet. I prefer the silver ones as well, that or black. :D

thanks  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Foos on October 24, 2013, 03:01:52 AM
Love the Cadet. I've been thinking of getting a Sportsman, basically the cellidor version of this that also has backside tools (I think), but the Alox factor is appealing.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: pfrsantos on October 24, 2013, 01:50:21 PM
Love the Cadet. I've been thinking of getting a Sportsman, basically the cellidor version of this that also has backside tools (I think), but the Alox factor is appealing.
Get both! I did, am carrying the Sportsman today.
 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ttpower on October 24, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
I got the cadet because it's the thinnest and lightest in the 84mm SAK line. plus the Alox does give it more character. i wish they had the different colors here.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on October 24, 2013, 03:08:24 PM
tt power, did you see the Danish Cadets? I'm sure they ship to you, wherever you are.

http://www.thegoodstuffshop.dk/group.asp?group=4330&lang=uk

(I've ordered a bantam and a cadet in green. But I wish I'd ordered a black one too.)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ttpower on October 24, 2013, 03:37:05 PM
Thanks for the link Thunderpants :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on November 18, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
My latest SAK: a very old horn scaled Tourist. Purchased on eBay from another member here, which is awesome because it means it can go right in the collection without having to be cleaned/disinfected (SAK collecting is not a hobby for the germophobe). This is, to date, the oldest 84mm I've ever seen.

(http://sakinfo.com/bbsimg/TouristOld.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on November 18, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
Some other old 84mm, all Tourists. From L-R: Mid 1930s, Late 1930s, Early 1940s, Mid 1940s.

(http://sakinfo.com/bbsimg/Tourists.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on November 18, 2013, 10:28:39 PM
 :gimme: :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on November 18, 2013, 11:53:36 PM
Very nice acquisition and cool looking line up. :hatsoff:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kmanct3 on November 21, 2013, 01:48:05 PM
Here are my 84's (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/21/zezy8e4e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/21/ugapy4yr.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jrp316 on November 21, 2013, 04:50:06 PM
I think you've got them all, kmanct3.  :sak:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kmanct3 on November 21, 2013, 05:27:08 PM
Sorry for the poor pics, it was extremely cold in the garage this morning
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: pfrsantos on November 21, 2013, 05:34:12 PM
Sorry for the poor pics, it was extremely cold in the garage this morning

You mean these are actually 91mm, then?...

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on November 21, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
Sorry for the poor pics, it was extremely cold in the garage this morning

You mean these are actually 91mm, then?...

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl:

:doh:

Really made me laugh. :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kmanct3 on November 21, 2013, 05:49:42 PM
I wasn't laughing, I was shivering !
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ulli on November 22, 2013, 04:11:20 PM
Here`s a golfer. Nice one with exposed rivets.

(http://de.myalbum.com/GroteFoto-N4TQV7OD.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on November 24, 2013, 03:48:50 AM
Very nice find!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NG VI on December 19, 2013, 04:52:22 AM
what's the pricing on the good stuff store?  It's scary to look at while it's labeled "USD" and has a number approaching a thousand for three of these.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on December 19, 2013, 07:05:07 AM
Divide by 6 should get you $ prices.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fattsgalore on December 19, 2013, 10:59:37 AM
I fell in love with it the second it arrived...Fresh out the mailbox.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/560/ddf6.jpg)
I like the look of the old combo tool, but it takes more effort for the initial punch. The lip that grabs the rim of the can has more of an edge than the modern one and slips less. I think I like it better than the new design. Only time will tell.

Need one with nail file now; you guys are making me jealous... Plus another for a project.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NG VI on December 19, 2013, 03:16:13 PM
Ok it's just the website labeling prices as USD, in Kroner the prices make sense.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: deputy tom on December 24, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
An old 84mm like this one is such a thing of beauty.. tough and beautiful.  It might weigh a little more than cellidor models today, but these babies are worth trading Alox for.

84mm Fieldmaster configuration (aka Artisan/Vintage Craftsman/Fieldmaster-small).


(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=49112;image)


As you well know I like the 84mm series but this is so awesome I'm at a loss for words. tom.  :tool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ducttapetech on December 24, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
Very nice!

sent from Nate's mobile

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 24, 2013, 11:01:10 PM
 :ahhh  I want a round awl, small-climber  sooooo bad.  But they go for soooo much $$$.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on December 27, 2013, 12:14:17 AM
3 months ago just before I took my little break, I found this beauty.  Model: 246 ka Bgl.

An early Small Huntsman.  Needs cleaning, and a little attention to the small blade, not much else.

Sorry, I'm not setup to photographs so this is just a quick one since I opened it today and won't get another chance for a while.

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/84mm-sak-love/?action=dlattach;attach=90357;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 02:37:39 AM
Did anyone pick up the slightly battered bailed huntsman small with the long nail file that was just on the fleabay?  The final price was actually quite reasonable. Something like $38.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 27, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
Did anyone pick up the slightly battered bailed huntsman small with the long nail file that was just on the fleabay?  The final price was actually quite reasonable. Something like $38.

I bid on it but a lower figure because it was so beaten up.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 09:08:22 AM
I figured you'd be in the hunt.  I suppose the final price was rather realistic. 

Incidentally, I am loving the wooden scale sportsman you bonused me (with T&T, pressed logo and blade filing).  It is a work of art that continues to impress!  So much so that I have been on the hunt for other wood scale vics.  But after reflection, I think the official ones do not live up to your high standard!  (I even added a microscrewdriver and it is just awesome).  Pics to be posted later after I get off of work. 

Are any more still available (exposed rivets a plus)?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bmot on December 27, 2013, 10:14:50 AM
I figured you'd be in the hunt.  I suppose the final price was rather realistic. 

Incidentally, I am loving the wooden scale sportsman you bonused me (with T&T, pressed logo and blade filing).  It is a work of art that continues to impress!  So much so that I have been on the hunt for other wood scale vics.  But after reflection, I think the official ones do not live up to your high standard!  (I even added a microscrewdriver and it is just awesome).  Pics to be posted later after I get off of work. 

Are any more still available (exposed rivets a plus)?


The Sportsman is a great SAK  :tu:  I'm loving mine, I got it a week ago now, I think. Would obviously be even better with wooden scales :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 27, 2013, 11:16:41 AM

Incidentally, I am loving the wooden scale sportsman you bonused me (with T&T, pressed logo and blade filing).  It is a work of art that continues to impress!  So much so that I have been on the hunt for other wood scale vics.  But after reflection, I think the official ones do not live up to your high standard!  (I even added a microscrewdriver and it is just awesome).  Pics to be posted later after I get off of work. 

Are any more still available (exposed rivets a plus)?

(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/20131227_193056_zpspk1rg1rp.jpg) (http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/Peter_Thorpe/media/20131227_193056_zpspk1rg1rp.jpg.html)

top row: 
Olive Tourist, exposed rivets, fileworked main blade spine, no keyring;
Olive Sportsman, exposed rivets, fileworked main blade spine;
Yellow Box Burl Sportsman, exposed rivets, fileworked main blade spine;
Brown Mallee Burl Tourist, exposed rivets, fileworked main blade spine;
Yellow Box Burl Tourist, exposed rivets, fileworked spine and Sheepsfoot profiled main blade;
Brown Mallee Burl Waiter, fileworked main blade spine.
These are all built from pre-loved knives but in good condition.

bottom row:  ALL WAiTERS, ALL built from BNIB except last which is BNNB: (lost the box somehow  :think: )
Olive, exposed rivets; 
Mulberry, exposed rivets; 
Acacia, exposed rivets; 
Silky Oak, exposed rivets; 
Black Wattle, exposed rivets; 
Jarrah, exposed rivets;

All wood is finished in Boiled Linseed Oil. I feel the satin finish feels and looks better than a thick glossy polyurethane which makes the wood look like some plastic imitation.
All exposed rivet heads are flush with the wood, not domed heads.

All/any of these are for sale/trade. $35 each plus shipping at cost.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
I think I am done with cellidor. Alox, wood, and nylon, in that order as well. This knife knife has been a revelation!  (Well, the Compact may qualify, tbd).
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 11:21:52 AM
Put me down for the crazy tiger pattern waiter (silky oak). Looks awesome!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 27, 2013, 11:23:42 AM
I'll dig up a couple of better photos of each side.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 27, 2013, 11:28:17 AM
Silky Oak Waiter

(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/84mm-sak-love/?action=dlattach;attach=90380;image)
(http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/84mm-sak-love/?action=dlattach;attach=90382;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 12:02:43 PM
Too awesome. Hold it for me, we can settle when I get the orange cadets.

To confirm, PTR wood scales (exposed rivets!) are in fact high end luxury items or if you prefer, humble down to earth tools. :p
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: bmot on December 27, 2013, 12:05:18 PM
Hmmmm, you don't happen to have any more detailed pics of the Olive Sportsman, do you?  :whistle:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on December 27, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
It does look nice!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on December 27, 2013, 01:19:32 PM
Hmmmm, you don't happen to have any more detailed pics of the Olive Sportsman, do you?  :whistle:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ICanFixThat on February 08, 2014, 08:00:39 PM
3 Beauties from Syph007.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=117159;image)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Reinier on February 08, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
My latest SAK: a very old horn scaled Tourist. Purchased on eBay from another member here, which is awesome because it means it can go right in the collection without having to be cleaned/disinfected (SAK collecting is not a hobby for the germophobe). This is, to date, the oldest 84mm I've ever seen.

(http://sakinfo.com/bbsimg/TouristOld.jpg)

Hey I remember that SAK :)
Nice photo.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: captain spaulding on February 09, 2014, 12:37:29 AM
3 Beauties from Syph007.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=117159;image)

Those look great!  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Luna Knife on February 09, 2014, 12:57:53 AM
I have three 84mm.  vic waiter(wood scale mod), sportsman, and alox bantam

the sportsman and the alox bantam are usually my edc at work or when wearing "nice" pants
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: papercut on February 09, 2014, 02:31:11 AM
You must get a Cadet. It is the ultimate office edc.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Luna Knife on February 09, 2014, 03:46:43 AM
I do have the cadet and not the bantam,  I mixed the name.  Its black with a blade, file can opener, bottle opener.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on February 09, 2014, 04:46:31 PM
3 Beauties from Syph007.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=117159;image)

Those look great!  :tu:

That white one...  :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Caranthanus on February 09, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
3 Beauties from Syph007.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27753.0;attach=117159;image)

Masterpieces  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Longtermsakfan on February 10, 2014, 12:31:29 PM
I too have become a real fan of the 84mm range from Victorinox.
I have all the Cellidor range, in various colours, and Matt in the 4 available colours, and am just about to start gathering in the Alox models. In the U.K. , depending on your locality, the carrying of knives can be frowned upon, with lock knives being illegal, and liable to be confiscated.
91mm SAKs are generally o.k., and acceptable, other than Air travel of course.
The 84mm models can be carried and used, even more discreetly, and my personal favourite is the Tourist, basically a scaled down Spartan but with nailfile. Also very cheap to buy as a Matt Ecoline version.
Although now retired from work, my role as Householder/Gardener/Husband/Father/Grandfather etc. etc., requires me to carry  my SAK, constantly, and even 18 month old Grandson knows which pocket to point to when the batteries need changing in one of his toys, and we need a small screwdriver !!
I live in a relatively small community, and don't need to carry a large 'Tactical' locknife, so a small 84mm SAK caters for most of my needs.
If I travel, and hike , a Huntsman always goes in the checked in luggage as well.
However, I would really like to see Victorinox develop a few more models in the 84mm range , such as 84mm versions of the Climber or Huntsman.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on February 10, 2014, 01:25:52 PM
However, I would really like to see Victorinox develop a few more models in the 84mm range , such as 84mm versions of the Climber or Huntsman.

Unfortunately, that is highly unlikely. 84mm versions of the Huntsman and Climber were sold in the past, but were retired years ago.  84mm models with scissors are highly sought after.

What makes it even more unlikely now is the availability of the saw and scissors in the Victorinox Delemont line (Wenger 85mm). Victorinox don't want to create competing models within their lineup.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ducttapetech on February 10, 2014, 02:08:17 PM
True, but 1mm off is close enough for me.


that's us mobile

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on February 10, 2014, 03:18:28 PM
True, but 1mm off is close enough for me.


that's us mobile

The size is close enough for me also, but I find the Victorinox saw and scissors to be considerably more effective tools than the Wenger ones, so that further widens the gap for me.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Cauldronborn on February 10, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
I've seen one or two hints that victorinox will be redesigning the scissors for their new Delemont range.

That plus the fact they have a wood saw for the 84mm frame and have said they want to reduce duplication I think we could end up with hybrid victorinox/wenger design.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Caranthanus on February 11, 2014, 02:12:56 AM
I'd like to add my two cents to this amazing 84 parade  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: crackout on February 25, 2014, 01:15:27 PM
Genesis!

(http://i.imgur.com/3CkOV7h.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/PbBWr7Y.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FSbDwUQ.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: archerwin on July 06, 2014, 03:08:23 AM
The topic is more than 120 days old but good thing I found it... Just want to add to some 84mm lovin'

my small Climber. Victoria tang stamp.

 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Flying Dutchman on August 02, 2014, 06:31:19 PM
I would love to find a serrated spartan in 84mm, or the tourist with a large serrated blade. that would be awesome.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on August 02, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
I would love to find a serrated spartan in 84mm, or the tourist with a large serrated blade. that would be awesome.

The Tourist is the 84mm equivalent to the Spartan. There is a fully serrated blade 84mm Recruit. Might be kind of hard to find but with some MODin help around here you could get that done.

Recruit serrated blade
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fjsQ9U9pYkw/SQjVhp3VCVI/AAAAAAAAN5Y/RMIv77hGBMM/s800/Serrated%2520Blade-2.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wXjD2J_zOcU/SQjVhhiYENI/AAAAAAAAN5Y/CDQyTC-3D4M/s800/Serrated%2520Blade-1.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Saluki on August 03, 2014, 05:10:02 AM
What years were the serrated versions made?  Were they relatively common?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mextreme on August 03, 2014, 10:35:56 AM
Those serrations look quite aggressive and on the right side.
I can imagine they are quite useful around boats or rope climbing, especially when you have the small blade as a back up plain edge.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Flying Dutchman on August 03, 2014, 04:15:37 PM
What years were the serrated versions made?  Were they relatively common?

The 91mm Serrated Spartan is on Amazon now for $20 and up. I got my dad one for Christmas last year and it was $17 I think, just got around to ordering mine and I paid $20.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: neillcurrie on August 03, 2014, 04:45:16 PM
What years were the serrated versions made?  Were they relatively common?

The 91mm Serrated Spartan is on Amazon now for $20 and up. I got my dad one for Christmas last year and it was $17 I think, just got around to ordering mine and I paid $20.

I see them new, currently at just under $17 on ebay. If you also check the used serrated Vics, there's currently one for just $3.99 + shipping.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mextreme on August 03, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
I have nothing fancy 84mm, just two users.
A Danish color Cadet and a small Tinker. They ar both users, actually they take turns as EDCs.
The 84mm is just great in the EDC roll. Legal abot anywhere very easy to carry in pocket. I wish there were more current offerings.
Would love a 84mm compact and 84 mm climber.  Would love them to pack the Wenger 85 Scissors together with the rest victorinox implements.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Humppa on August 03, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
I have several 84 mm SAKs. Some Cadets, one regular and two colored. I have several Recruits and one Sportsman. The Executive is an interessting design in general. ;)

So yes, here is love for the 84 mm SAKs. :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Philby on August 03, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
 :tu:
I have nothing fancy 84mm, just two users.
A Danish color Cadet and a small Tinker. They ar both users, actually they take turns as EDCs.
The 84mm is just great in the EDC roll. Legal abot anywhere very easy to carry in pocket. I wish there were more current offerings.
Would love a 84mm compact and 84 mm climber.  Would love them to pack the Wenger 85 Scissors together with the rest victorinox implements.
Wish granted! :tu: :climber:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mextreme on August 03, 2014, 11:47:52 PM
:tu:
I have nothing fancy 84mm, just two users.
A Danish color Cadet and a small Tinker. They ar both users, actually they take turns as EDCs.
The 84mm is just great in the EDC roll. Legal abot anywhere very easy to carry in pocket. I wish there were more current offerings.
Would love a 84mm compact and 84 mm climber.  Would love them to pack the Wenger 85 Scissors together with the rest victorinox implements.
Wish granted! :tu: :climber:

How about that! I had no idea.
I immidiately went to victorinox official page. There is even a 85 mm "super Tinker" And it goes on. Time for: :mail:
Great news, Thanks.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: stressmaster5000 on September 14, 2014, 05:16:02 AM
Love these older red alox cadets!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FF-CuByji-g/VBUDkhEuPjI/AAAAAAAApwQ/tFstWxyrHNo/s800/DSC03344.JPG)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on September 14, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
Love these older red alox cadets!

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FF-CuByji-g/VBUDkhEuPjI/AAAAAAAApwQ/tFstWxyrHNo/s800/DSC03344.JPG)

Oh my, what a wonderful pic :) Is that a Bantam on the far right? Seems to be lacking in tools :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Glofindel on September 14, 2014, 02:02:31 PM
How did I miss this thread???
I too have a crush on 84 mm size.
84 mm is the perfect size Vic that I would carry in pockeys a long with other stuffs.
91 mm is good and filling the hands well but I will pick 84 mm all day anyday.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Glofindel on October 12, 2014, 07:39:42 AM
84mm users(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/11/d2d27c2575fdccd9c966f07c613b9b10.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: zoidberg on October 12, 2014, 07:53:02 AM
Very cool pic.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: archerwin on October 26, 2014, 05:07:12 AM
My 84mm Tourist from the 1960's.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/archerwin/ForSale/Swiss%20Knives/0000078A-09AA-4890-BC9E-E3D91DF5CA15.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/archerwin/ForSale/Swiss%20Knives/6D4B6F1D-FCC3-484A-96D5-585CC3DBBB5B.jpg)

more photos on my blog. Archerwin's Swiss Army Knives (http://archerwinsak.blogspot.com.au/2014/10/collection-victorinox-tourist-84mm-1960s.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Corwyn on October 26, 2014, 07:19:55 AM
Not too keen on 84s too be honest, as the 91s fit better in my hand and the blade feels more decisive. Do use my Cadet for suit carry though. Well here are mine:

Mini Climber
(http://i57.tinypic.com/4vo9yv.jpg)

Sportsman Ecoline:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/dvgbpu.jpg)

Tourist Ecoline:
(http://i60.tinypic.com/sfielw.jpg)

Elinox Excelsior Cellidor (an oldie):
(http://i61.tinypic.com/1tqv4z.jpg)

Cadet (my fave):
(http://i61.tinypic.com/xlcz9j.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: lowtech on October 26, 2014, 09:08:22 PM
My first Cellidor Mod - Minifarmer.
3 layers, no backtools. It´s a combination of a Recruit, My first and a Sportsman.
Pic was taken before I re-did teh middle pin without bushings.
I am not sure if I like Nylon or Cellidor scales better.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ducttapetech on October 26, 2014, 09:13:38 PM
Cool!!

Nate

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: lowtech on October 26, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
Thanks!
I´m quite proud that my firstb real SAK mod actually produced a working knife.
I am thinking of using ribbed Alox scales for this (I have bought 2 ribbed knives for mod fodder) or my next Alox mod.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ducttapetech on October 26, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
You did good. Can't wait to see the alox mod.

Nate

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: lowtech on October 27, 2014, 03:30:28 PM
Don´t hold your breath, it might take me a while...  ;)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on November 02, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
Some of my scissors. Golfers, Salesman, small Climbers and Artisans.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on November 02, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
(http://www.auroragoddess.net/RHForum/Emoticons/envy.gif)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on November 02, 2014, 02:34:27 PM
(http://www.auroragoddess.net/RHForum/Emoticons/envy.gif)

+100
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Glofindel on November 02, 2014, 05:18:37 PM
Some of my scissors. Golfers, Salesman, small Climbers and Artisans.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg.html)
Superb!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: archerwin on November 03, 2014, 12:59:54 AM
Some of my scissors. Golfers, Salesman, small Climbers and Artisans.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg.html)

in the words of my 11-year old son.. "THAT'S SICK!" hahaha  :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: novice on March 08, 2015, 01:44:20 AM
This is truly a dangerous expensive hobby.

 :drool:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kosmo on March 08, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
Although I like all the Alox knives and all the options of the 91mm knives, the 84mm is my favorite size.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b5/d5/f0/b5d5f094b448eb92d1a36692402c4458.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: LeaF on March 08, 2015, 07:25:14 PM
Few 84-mm models from my collection  :D
(http://i59.fastpic.ru/thumb/2015/0308/d3/_a6b3d2a8e1b916e25993cd26f3a33ed3.jpeg) (http://fastpic.ru/view/59/2015/0308/_a6b3d2a8e1b916e25993cd26f3a33ed3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ColoSwiss on March 08, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
Some of my scissors. Golfers, Salesman, small Climbers and Artisans.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/84mmscissors039_zps7ad01d8c.jpg.html)

Nice!   :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on March 09, 2015, 01:54:37 PM
... and here it is! Firesteel Cadet.  ;)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pFSs9AhxbYs/TtENdWk9tfI/AAAAAAAADcw/4aWh-vr-BvM/s800/1_DSCN5316_r.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_5BDDkiIexo/TtENcINpSfI/AAAAAAAADck/J-IZEEtcTX4/s800/2_DSCN5314_r.jpg)

Sorry for quoting an ancient post, but is this your work or released by Victorinox/Swissbianco?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: enki_ck on March 09, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
Martin should probably be around shortly to answer that but in the meantime ...

His mini Farmer. :D

http://sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=45&sort_mode=imageId_desc&imageId=2542&scalesize=o

(http://sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=2542&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: zoidberg on March 09, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
Custom carbon steel fire strikers are cool.  8)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kosmo on March 24, 2015, 08:09:32 PM
I see your and raise you a cadet plus scissors (I know you have one too :P):

Mh, fine then. How about a red shield black Cadet with scissors? >:D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/1706/p1020703s.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/8353/p1020700n.jpg)

And how about a set of replacement tools? :angel:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5756/p1020704sf.jpg)

What size pivot screws would work well with 84mm Alox mod?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: crackout on March 24, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
These are 1/8 of an inch. Interestingly, 84mm springs have more meat around the center hole than 93mm ones.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kosmo on March 24, 2015, 10:52:27 PM
These are 1/8 of an inch. Interestingly, 84mm springs have more meat around the center hole than 93mm ones.

If I can get use of a mill, I might try this.  I would like being able to take it apart again if necessary.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Higgins617 on March 26, 2015, 01:22:13 AM
The 84 is my favorite so far, the Cadet is just so compact and easy to carry and use. Sure it's not the most substantial thing out there, but the blade easily handles all my daily tasks, and looks damn classy doing so.

(http://gallery.multitool.org/var/resizes/Higgins%27-shots/IMAG1063.jpg?m=1427323739)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on March 26, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
I love carrying my Cadet (2) as well.  It is one smart looking SAK.  The upside is I tell myself since it doesn't have scissors I have to carry my swisschamp too  :rofl:. 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Webber2629 on July 27, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
I see your and raise you a cadet plus scissors (I know you have one too :P):

Mh, fine then. How about a red shield black Cadet with scissors? >:D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/1706/p1020703s.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/8353/p1020700n.jpg)

And how about a set of replacement tools? :angel:

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5756/p1020704sf.jpg)

Hope you don't mind me asking, but did you make the pivots, or did you buy them? If you bought them where did you get them? And how well do they work, are they really a bit big? Thanks for you're help, I'm just about to make this mod, and looking at possibly making 2.2mm pivots myself
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 28, 2015, 01:22:58 AM
Definitely love for the 84mm line here!  I've carried my Cadets and Sportsman for quite a while. Though once I found 84Golfers, the Sportsman has taken a back seat for the time being.

As I have begun modding, a Waiter has become an Apprentice, and I'm working myself up to putting scissors on a Cadet.  Just need to keep working on my peening technique.

 In the meantime, I've started carrying 91Golfers and a Pioneer.  Still getting used to the larger sizes.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on July 30, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
I only do 84mm :) All of my 84mm alox:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/20920q9.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sneider on July 30, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
I only do 84mm :) All of my 84mm alox:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/20920q9.jpg)

Wooow, that's awesome!
The most beautiful 84mm Alox collection I've ever seen here!   :2tu:

Respect!  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on July 30, 2015, 08:10:58 PM
I only do 84mm :) All of my 84mm alox:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/20920q9.jpg)

Wooow, that's awesome!
The most beautiful 84mm Alox collection I've ever seen here!   :2tu:

Respect!  :salute:



Wow!!! +1
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on October 26, 2015, 11:47:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8UUbEcK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Cf9sugr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5c1iKoq.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on November 02, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VVKGXPc.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on November 03, 2015, 12:08:49 AM
I love my 84mm Sportsman...it's the ideal size!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Zephon on November 04, 2015, 12:49:46 AM
It turns out all this time that the Tinker in the kitchen drawer was an 84mm versus what I thought was a 91mm.  Not exactly the type of guy to go measure his tool.
 :facepalm:

When I got the Ecoline Waiter, then I had something to compare the one in the drawer and it turned out to be an 84mm  :think: :rofl:

Now I'm off to try to fill a silly gap of not having a 91mm SAK.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ulli on November 14, 2015, 05:25:03 PM
old golfer,  nr. 207. This one is 84 mm, i have the same model in 91 mm. I like the nailfile very much. You can use it from both sides.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on November 14, 2015, 10:13:02 PM
Wow - nice. I'm not envious of too many people's collections, but I am of yours.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ulli on November 15, 2015, 04:16:23 PM
Thanks. I`m envious of many of your knives, especially the Nr. 290. Do you still have it?

My collection is mainly about vintage swiss knives. They are easy to find in europe, there are many old soldiers, officer knives and farmer knives around. But some knives are really rare here, all the models with the philips screwdriver on the back. Does anybody know why? We have a really good company for screwdrivers, pb, Peter Baumann, maybe thats the reason or we changed from philips to torx a long time ago.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on November 15, 2015, 07:05:34 PM
An 84mm Hoffritz stamped Model 136kmaU ('69-'70) (thanks JB for the ID and info)

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Hoffritz%2084mm%20Craftsman_zpswypj66qn.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jazzbass on November 15, 2015, 08:42:43 PM
Thanks. I`m envious of many of your knives, especially the Nr. 290. Do you still have it?
I do indeed.

But some knives are really rare here, all the models with the philips screwdriver on the back. Does anybody know why?

This is from memory and can't find my sources, so do not take this all as gospel. Here is the reason I remember reading:

After WWII, things changed in a big way for Victorinox. While Switzerland was neutral and their infrastructure was largely intact, they were a small country with a small population so they relied on exports in a big way. Problem is, all of their existing export partners (Germany, France, Austria, Italy, UK) were in pretty bad shape after the war. The US was the only major power at the time to come out of the war and not have to spend the next 10 years rebuilding. This coupled with American GIs getting exposed to SAKs in a big way both during the war and after during the whole Marshall plan era meant that there was a big market to be had in exporting to the US. The Americans had the money and the liked the product. Mostly.

Problem was, at the time Americans really didn't drink wine. Not only did they not drink it, but it was really seen as a thing for the elites. The average American honestly had little to do with it. Sure there were some exceptions - my grandfather's family was from Italy and drank wine at every meal. But by and large wine had yet to become common in the US. So the corkscrew wasn't terribly useful and in some ways had sort of a negative connotation to some - remember, most see wine as a "fancy" drink for the wealthy. The common man at the time - most likely descended from some sort of northern European immigrant - really was a beer drinker.

Whether it was Victorinox themselves that decided to introduce the backside Phillips for the US market, or it was the importers (Forschner, Hoffritz) that asked for it I can't say. I do know at the time that American importers had a HUGE amount of influence on European manufacturers and the products they made. The Europeans were desperate to export to the US to keep their companies in business and the importers obviously wanted the products to succeed as it would make them wealthy. Look at Max Hoffman, the European car importer. He said "jump" and Mercedes, Porsche and VW said "how high". The Mercedes 300SL and the Porsche 356 Speedster (two of the greatest cars ever built) were made for the US based on his suggestions.

So we see the Phillips introduced in the late 1940s/early 1950s, at first only on 84mm knives but then later on the 91mm knives as well. Here in the US they are actually pretty common - you only have to look at sales of LNF Champions to see that. Probably 75% of the LNF Champions auctioned on US eBay from pre-1970 are Phillips models. Likewise, about 75% of the ones auctioned in Europe are corkscrew models.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on November 15, 2015, 08:51:15 PM
This place is an unbelievable source of SAKfacts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Thank you!!!!!!
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on November 15, 2015, 09:36:30 PM
Love these little guys, got a Golfer on the way.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/15/c0342b506aa0683b227259d9d9afdbdd.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on November 17, 2015, 02:46:50 AM
Golfer came in today.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/16/711c85eb75b904a809fe583390f0e758.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: EDCRunr on November 17, 2015, 03:44:39 AM
Just in today, my latest cadet!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on November 17, 2015, 11:09:43 AM
Carrying the Mega84 today
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: AndyTiedye on November 19, 2015, 02:35:08 AM
My favorite 84 is this Scibeer custom.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on November 19, 2015, 04:06:03 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/8UUbEcK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Cf9sugr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5c1iKoq.jpg)
did those come with scissors from the factory?


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on November 30, 2015, 02:33:56 AM
84mm bicolors

(http://i.imgur.com/xpvRaWH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dcE6Nc1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uRqOEb0.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MWDP on December 10, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JzIL7sZ.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: shenkie on December 10, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
Thanks. I`m envious of many of your knives, especially the Nr. 290. Do you still have it?
I do indeed.

But some knives are really rare here, all the models with the philips screwdriver on the back. Does anybody know why?

This is from memory and can't find my sources, so do not take this all as gospel. Here is the reason I remember reading:

After WWII, things changed in a big way for Victorinox. While Switzerland was neutral and their infrastructure was largely intact, they were a small country with a small population so they relied on exports in a big way. Problem is, all of their existing export partners (Germany, France, Austria, Italy, UK) were in pretty bad shape after the war. The US was the only major power at the time to come out of the war and not have to spend the next 10 years rebuilding. This coupled with American GIs getting exposed to SAKs in a big way both during the war and after during the whole Marshall plan era meant that there was a big market to be had in exporting to the US. The Americans had the money and the liked the product. Mostly.

Problem was, at the time Americans really didn't drink wine. Not only did they not drink it, but it was really seen as a thing for the elites. The average American honestly had little to do with it. Sure there were some exceptions - my grandfather's family was from Italy and drank wine at every meal. But by and large wine had yet to become common in the US. So the corkscrew wasn't terribly useful and in some ways had sort of a negative connotation to some - remember, most see wine as a "fancy" drink for the wealthy. The common man at the time - most likely descended from some sort of northern European immigrant - really was a beer drinker.

Whether it was Victorinox themselves that decided to introduce the backside Phillips for the US market, or it was the importers (Forschner, Hoffritz) that asked for it I can't say. I do know at the time that American importers had a HUGE amount of influence on European manufacturers and the products they made. The Europeans were desperate to export to the US to keep their companies in business and the importers obviously wanted the products to succeed as it would make them wealthy. Look at Max Hoffman, the European car importer. He said "jump" and Mercedes, Porsche and VW said "how high". The Mercedes 300SL and the Porsche 356 Speedster (two of the greatest cars ever built) were made for the US based on his suggestions.

So we see the Phillips introduced in the late 1940s/early 1950s, at first only on 84mm knives but then later on the 91mm knives as well. Here in the US they are actually pretty common - you only have to look at sales of LNF Champions to see that. Probably 75% of the LNF Champions auctioned on US eBay from pre-1970 are Phillips models. Likewise, about 75% of the ones auctioned in Europe are corkscrew models.

Love your stories JB!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on February 18, 2016, 05:15:18 AM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160218/f1f6ba82d795acd5b2ae30541f5c5fe4.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160218/9a21f3afeed188532bac19987f6ad045.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on July 17, 2016, 08:07:45 AM
Perfect.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160717/fecb89d30ab347a5deb0f66ac76a12f6.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on July 17, 2016, 01:04:16 PM
I always did love the idea of them but never saw one for sale, let along in good condition and at an affordable price.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 17, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
Perfect.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160717/fecb89d30ab347a5deb0f66ac76a12f6.jpg)

Nice pick up murraydan...I really like this one!   :gimme:
I also agree with Gareth that these are hard to find in good condition at anything close to a reasonable cost! 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on July 17, 2016, 05:59:48 PM
I always did love the idea of them but never saw one for sale, let along in good condition and at an affordable price.
This one looked rough on eBay, the blade looked really bad - so not too many bids. Once I got it I polished the blade and scales, now I'd say it's a 9/10 or 9.5/10. The Voyageur has been one of my grails for a while and I'm really happy with this one.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 17, 2016, 06:01:39 PM
I always did love the idea of them but never saw one for sale, let along in good condition and at an affordable price.
This one looked rough on eBay, the blade looked really bad - so not too many bids. Once I got it I polished the blade and scales, now I'd say it's a 9/10 or 9.5/10. The Voyageur has been one of my grails for a while and I'm really happy with this one.

Well, congrats are due!  Nice job!  If it needs any more clean up to get it closer to 10, let me know...I'll take care of it for your...    :whistle:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on July 24, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Was going through my 84mm collection and just realized that my Tinker small didn't have T&T on the scales. And the phillips has the can-key slot...

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/d178c07b1a39f1d8837251215c1eacb6.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/0432c848fb3872aa33f47ece3a62934d.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on July 24, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
NICE one  :tu:
That thang is a Spam Can Killa  :D  :spamkiller:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 24, 2016, 01:18:26 PM
+1 :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on July 24, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
NICE one  :tu:
That thang is a Spam Can Killa  :D  :spamkiller:
Now where are the cans


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 25, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
I asked my wife to pick up a few Spam cans so that I can try mine out....I think that's an awesome tool!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on July 25, 2016, 02:08:47 PM
NICE one  :tu:
That thang is a Spam Can Killa  :D  :spamkiller:

Yeah what cali said :o :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on July 29, 2016, 09:42:58 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160729/4446a0176edb6d370124bac6d732ac34.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on July 29, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
That's a great line-up of ribbed Alox murrydan. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: m47mu74nt on July 29, 2016, 10:13:10 PM
The voyageur is my Grail, (along with the TrailGuide)  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 29, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
Nice, nice, nice.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on July 29, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 29, 2016, 11:40:21 PM
WOW.  A bunch of beautiful, rare ribbies there!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 29, 2016, 11:54:40 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8787/28637809385_2be370fcd9_k.jpg)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8836/28021565693_e4d23db7e5_k.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 30, 2016, 12:04:20 AM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8787/28637809385_2be370fcd9_k.jpg)

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8836/28021565693_e4d23db7e5_k.jpg)

Now that works for me......I have a little MC in my pocket all the time....most used SAK.  Nice.... :cheers:

max
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 30, 2016, 12:28:32 AM
Thanks.  :tu: 

That one is a bit too nice for me to talk myself into carrying, so it's a drawer queen.  I tend to not carry the 84mm models with scissors much due to rarity, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 30, 2016, 05:37:23 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160729/4446a0176edb6d370124bac6d732ac34.jpg)

Very nice collection!   :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 30, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
Thanks.  :tu: 

That one is a bit too nice for me to talk myself into carrying, so it's a drawer queen.  I tend to not carry the 84mm models with scissors much due to rarity, unfortunately.

I carry mine but treat it well.  Goes in the pocket on a clip, no change or other junk in the pocket (hate that anyway) and I use it for light duty.  Have a Workchamp and Charge TTi on my belt for the tough stuff.  I just can't stand to put it away.  😜

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on July 31, 2016, 12:57:18 AM
I asked my wife to pick up a few Spam cans so that I can try mine out....I think that's an awesome tool!

SPAM hasn't come in key opening cans in years...however corned beef is still packaged in the trapezoidal cans.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
That's a beauty MC Boonies!  Love the bail, and the fact that it has Pat Elsener's name on on the can opener.  ;) :D

...and of course the phillips w/file.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 31, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
Thank you......I too am a bail addict.....probably something to do with my childhood.  Have to talk to Mr. Freud about that. 😛

Is your little MC a Hoffritz knife?  Mine is and I'm curious.....

max
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
Yes, it sure is.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ddogu on July 31, 2016, 11:44:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8UUbEcK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Cf9sugr.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5c1iKoq.jpg)

Elinox?? What is that? Victorinox replica?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on July 31, 2016, 12:34:29 PM
If we take a little from column A, a bit more from column B and some from column C we'll have a Victoria Small Climber with Horn scales...  niiiice.  All three are Victoria stamped but 2 blades are scrap.

I think I have a Victoria 84mm blade in the spares box so there should be a Tourist lurking in the leftovers.

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8873/28053477803_1008a87ba5_k.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on July 31, 2016, 02:28:21 PM
Yes, it sure is.

  :o  Wow, that makes three 84mm MC Hoffies!!!!!!!

Back on page 9
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27753.msg1182903.html#msg1182903
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Hoffritz%2084mm%20Craftsman_zpswypj66qn.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 04:56:38 PM
Nice one guys!  3 MCs on the same page.

SG, it looks like yours and mine are of similar vintage.  Pat. on the can opener, silver-tipped tweezers, nickel silver shield, split-ring, clip point blade.  However, mine unfortunately doesn't have the file on the phillips.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 05:16:12 PM
A few more 84mm w/scissors:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7691/28390596500_15a4d87b27_k.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on July 31, 2016, 05:22:10 PM
Nice one guys!  3 MCs on the same page.

SG, it looks like yours and mine are of similar vintage.  Pat. on the can opener, silver-tipped tweezers, nickel silver shield, split-ring, clip point blade.  However, mine unfortunately doesn't have the file on the phillips.

I thought ours were alike, so that's another variation! We cover a pretty nice block of time with these 3!  I think Max has another, newer one that will cap the recent end, IIRC. Nut, yours is in really fabulous condition buddy!!!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 06:09:46 PM
Thanks.  Yeah, I got really lucky with that one.  It was on ebay with an incorrect description and some really terrible pictures.

I knew what it was though, and basically stole it.  ;)  That one and the Golfer pictured above are my favorite cellidor 84mm in my collection.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 31, 2016, 06:57:46 PM
Nice one guys!  3 MCs on the same page.

SG, it looks like yours and mine are of similar vintage.  Pat. on the can opener, silver-tipped tweezers, nickel silver shield, split-ring, clip point blade.  However, mine unfortunately doesn't have the file on the phillips.

Wow, that's 4 with the Hoffritz marking......my other one is also a Hoffritz.  Seems a bit much to  just be a coincidence.

Description of my other one is identical to yours except that there is no "PAT" on the can opener.  Wonder if Hoffritz was the one driving the sale of these little guys.

They all look to be in really good shape....so when do you guys start carrying yours?  😛😛😛

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on July 31, 2016, 07:54:33 PM
I asked my wife to pick up a few Spam cans so that I can try mine out....I think that's an awesome tool!

SPAM hasn't come in key opening cans in years...however corned beef is still packaged in the trapezoidal cans.

Good point.  Corned beef is much tastier anyway. :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on July 31, 2016, 08:19:21 PM
And another.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1142_zpshy1uh7s4.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1142_zpshy1uh7s4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 31, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
Wow!!!!  Nice knife........guess we need to start looking for one that isn't marked Hoffritz.  Really nice knife GigaHz.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on July 31, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
Okay, who bought that old tinker small with the old style awl and philips on eBay last night?!


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on July 31, 2016, 09:59:52 PM
Wow!!!!  Nice knife........guess we need to start looking for one that isn't marked Hoffritz.  Really nice knife GigaHz.   :cheers:

+100!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on July 31, 2016, 10:01:52 PM
Some great pics of some very  8) knives :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on July 31, 2016, 10:28:07 PM
Okay, who bought that old tinker small with the old style awl and philips on eBay last night?!


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tj, I cannot tell a lie......I did chop down the cherry tree, errr...buy that old small Tinker.  It is the perfect mate for this old Camper, about the same time frame.   :cheers:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on July 31, 2016, 10:50:43 PM
Wonder if Hoffritz was the one driving the sale of these little guys.

They all look to be in really good shape....so when do you guys start carrying yours?  😛😛😛

It does seem that way.  Even the picture on SAKWiki shows the Hoffritz tang stamp

Even if I had a "user", I probably wouldn't carry it these days.  I'm a bit of an ALOX convert since about 2008...  A Soldier/SI or Farmer paired with a Rambler fits my uses very well.  Add a plier-based MT for the outdoors and "Bob's your uncle" so they say.  ;)

Beautiful knife GigaHz!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 01, 2016, 01:11:00 AM
Wonder if Hoffritz was the one driving the sale of these little guys.

They all look to be in really good shape....so when do you guys start carrying yours?  😛😛😛

It does seem that way.  Even the picture on SAKWiki shows the Hoffritz tang stamp

Even if I had a "user", I probably wouldn't carry it these days.  I'm a bit of an ALOX convert since about 2008...  A Soldier/SI or Farmer paired with a Rambler fits my uses very well.  Add a plier-based MT for the outdoors and "Bob's your uncle" so they say.  ;)

Beautiful knife GigaHz!!  :cheers:

Jazzbass has some of these including some that aren't Hoffritz IIRC.

Yeah, I have too many SAKS that ain't worth much to carry the valuable ones...with my RA, I could drop it on the concrete in a heartbeat and it would be terrible for a grown man to cry like that over a broken SAK (unless uh, youse was uh, kicked in da the onions, and then, uh, it's ok for youse to cry over a broken SAK).   :o

- please forgive my mobster dialect, watched "A Piece of the Action" last night and have been slipping into it all day) :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 01, 2016, 05:15:20 AM
Wonder if Hoffritz was the one driving the sale of these little guys.

They all look to be in really good shape....so when do you guys start carrying yours?  😛😛😛

It does seem that way.  Even the picture on SAKWiki shows the Hoffritz tang stamp

Even if I had a "user", I probably wouldn't carry it these days.  I'm a bit of an ALOX convert since about 2008...  A Soldier/SI or Farmer paired with a Rambler fits my uses very well.  Add a plier-based MT for the outdoors and "Bob's your uncle" so they say.  ;)

Beautiful knife GigaHz!!  :cheers:

I can understand the SI carry, I've only had mine for around a month now and it's been in my pocket almost from the get-go.  I guess I just like to play with the little MC.  😜😜😜
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on August 01, 2016, 05:19:54 AM
Oh, I can certainly understand that.  I just don't play with mine in public!  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 01, 2016, 05:22:40 AM
 :rofl:   :rofl:   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on August 02, 2016, 01:28:25 AM
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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 02, 2016, 01:59:17 AM
Nice MD!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 02, 2016, 02:57:38 AM
Burgundy is always good, and not just in wine...... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on August 03, 2016, 08:47:51 PM
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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on August 03, 2016, 08:49:11 PM
Nice MD!!!  :cheers:

Burgundy is always good, and not just in wine...... :cheers:

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 03, 2016, 10:07:20 PM
A new Artisan in the mail today.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 03, 2016, 10:08:21 PM
Gracious me there are some nice 84mm SAKs in here :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 03, 2016, 10:35:44 PM
A new Artisan in the mail today.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg.html)

Who did you sell to get that?  😜😜😜  Very nice....... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 03, 2016, 11:10:38 PM
A new Artisan in the mail today.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1145_zpsbsub4dal.jpg.html)

Who did you sell to get that?  😜😜😜  Very nice....... :cheers:

+1!!!!!!!  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on August 04, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
WOW.  Nice one GHz!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 04, 2016, 10:25:01 PM
Lots o money. They should of pulled out the saw.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272319617212?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on August 04, 2016, 11:03:52 PM
Score!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on August 05, 2016, 03:36:34 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8769/28154676404_2e981e9b80_k.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8880/28695113041_f9183d7111_k.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 05, 2016, 03:56:27 AM
Yes, I think I  could "suffer" that one in my collection.....very, very nice!!!   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 05, 2016, 04:47:48 AM
Yes, I think I  could "suffer" that one in my collection.....very, very nice!!!   :cheers:

+1!!!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 05, 2016, 05:03:39 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8769/28154676404_2e981e9b80_k.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8880/28695113041_f9183d7111_k.jpg)

Very nice PTR :dd: :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on August 05, 2016, 05:26:48 AM
Climber - Small

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 05, 2016, 05:51:54 AM
Climber - Small

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/63fbbaa8cf93ba656a732b5412504e39.jpg)


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Another nice one.....interesting scales!   :cheers:

A new one for me....I've been very lucky this past week...Golfer with LNF.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on August 05, 2016, 07:11:12 AM
Climber - Small

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Another nice one.....interesting scales!   :cheers:

A new one for me....I've been very lucky this past week...Golfer with LNF.
That is just so sweet


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 05, 2016, 07:55:07 AM
Climber - Small

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/63fbbaa8cf93ba656a732b5412504e39.jpg)


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Another nice one.....interesting scales!   :cheers:

A new one for me....I've been very lucky this past week...Golfer with LNF.
Another Excellent snag!!!  :ahhh :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 05, 2016, 08:31:09 AM
Such great 84mm's in this thread!!!!

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: samek on August 05, 2016, 08:48:17 AM
84 amd 91 mm
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/samek_2006/IMG_1113_zpsf7703a78.jpg) (http://s108.photobucket.com/user/samek_2006/media/IMG_1113_zpsf7703a78.jpg.html)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/samek_2006/IMG_1114_zps9c0e577a.jpg) (http://s108.photobucket.com/user/samek_2006/media/IMG_1114_zps9c0e577a.jpg.html)

(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/samek_2006/IMG_1120_zps035d66e8.jpg) (http://s108.photobucket.com/user/samek_2006/media/IMG_1120_zps035d66e8.jpg.html)
Samek
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on August 05, 2016, 08:53:29 AM
Keep 'em coming folks!  Beautiful stuff!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 05, 2016, 09:03:20 AM
Excellent Duo  8) :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 05, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8769/28154676404_2e981e9b80_k.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8880/28695113041_f9183d7111_k.jpg)

Is this a MOD?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on August 05, 2016, 01:14:06 PM
Climber - Small

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Another nice one.....interesting scales!   :cheers:

A new one for me....I've been very lucky this past week...Golfer with LNF.
Another Excellent snag!!!  :ahhh :cheers:
Thanks :cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 05, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
Thanks guys.....just love these little 84's.

samek......exposed rivets and the old style awls.....too nice for sure..... :cheers:

Another from this last week.....small Climber with black scales......love those black scales..... :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

max

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 05, 2016, 11:09:17 PM
 :drool: :drool:!!!  Love that Climber!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on August 05, 2016, 11:26:04 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8769/28154676404_2e981e9b80_k.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8880/28695113041_f9183d7111_k.jpg)

Is this a MOD?

Not a mod as such. The original knife had a broken blade and I had two other damaged knives of the same era, with Victoria stamped blades, which I used for spares.
The horn scales came from the original small Climber.
So it's really a repair.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 05, 2016, 11:27:51 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 06, 2016, 12:28:39 AM
Very nice SAKs 8) guys :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 06, 2016, 05:58:11 PM
Next one from the newest group.....an old, early 60's Woodsman.  Thought it might be a Huntsman at first but tool configuration is wrong for an old Huntsman, both the woodsaw and scissors pivot from the same end.  And too austere for a Huntsman, no frills.  A very pleasant old knife...... :cheers:

max

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 06, 2016, 09:04:41 PM
Very nice Max!!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on August 07, 2016, 01:33:38 AM
Seller stated this was originally purchased in 1969
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 07, 2016, 01:46:47 AM
Seller stated this was originally purchased in 1969

Looks right to me......nice old small Climber.....congrats... :cheers:   :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SteveC on August 07, 2016, 01:52:33 AM
Some beauties in this thread  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 07, 2016, 03:06:56 AM
 Well, here's another.....this one I especially like.....late 60's or early 70's I think...small Climber with a brass inlay in the center of the front scale.  Top says "GENEVE", bottom says "POST TENEBRAS LUX" and the middle has a bird of prey I think and some sort of shield.  Main blade is etched with "Christofle" on the 1st line and "Pavillion de Geneve" on the 2nd.  There is no Vic shield.

Google say Christofle is an old time manufacturer of silverware from France and they have pavillions in 75 countries including Geneva.  I have an old 84mm Woodsman with a bail that has the exact same etching on the blade.

Anybody know the meaning of the inlay?

A bit of history I guess..... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 07, 2016, 03:15:27 AM
Answered my own question....."Light after Darkness".  It's also on the coins of Geneva and a whole bunch of other stuff.  Google is your friend.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 07, 2016, 03:35:24 AM
Some beauties in this thread  :cheers:

Yes there are :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 07, 2016, 04:30:08 AM
The inlay is the coat of arms for the Swiss Canton of Geneva.


(http://files.onlyimage.com/premium/previews/110/coat-of-arms-of-the-swiss-canton-of-geneva-the-black-eagle-is-the-emblem-of-roman-kingdom-and-the-golden-key-is-the-symbol-of_110391311.jpg)
Coat of arms of the Swiss canton of Geneva. The black eagle is the emblem of Roman kingdom and the golden key is the symbol of Saint Peter.
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-110391311/stock-photo-coat-of-arms-of-the-swiss-canton-of-geneva-the-black-eagle-is-the-emblem-of-roman-kingdom-and-the.html


I knew what the Imperial Eagle (usually shown with two heads) was but had to find the key connection.  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 07, 2016, 04:47:16 AM
Now that;s cool, that's exactly what the center of the inlay looks like.  And the inscription is Latin.  Back to the Middle Ages we go......😜  Thanks SG, you're better than Google!!!   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 07, 2016, 08:17:12 AM
Well, here's another.....this one I especially like.....late 60's or early 70's I think...small Climber with a brass inlay in the center of the front scale.  Top says "GENEVE", bottom says "POST TENEBRAS LUX" and the middle has a bird of prey I think and some sort of shield.  Main blade is etched with "Christofle" on the 1st line and "Pavillion de Geneve" on the 2nd.  There is no Vic shield.

Google say Christofle is an old time manufacturer of silverware from France and they have pavillions in 75 countries including Geneva.  I have an old 84mm Woodsman with a bail that has the exact same etching on the blade.

Anybody know the meaning of the inlay?

A bit of history I guess..... :cheers:
AND ANOTHER GREAT snag..................  8)  :ahhh  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 07, 2016, 08:26:51 AM
Now that;s cool, that's exactly what the center of the inlay looks like.  And the inscription is Latin.  Back to the Middle Ages we go......😜  Thanks SG, you're better than Google!!!   :cheers:

You're welcome and thanks Max!!!  :cheers:  My old Lit professors would be happy to hear that!   :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 07, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
Well, here's another.....this one I especially like.....late 60's or early 70's I think...small Climber with a brass inlay in the center of the front scale.  Top says "GENEVE", bottom says "POST TENEBRAS LUX" and the middle has a bird of prey I think and some sort of shield.  Main blade is etched with "Christofle" on the 1st line and "Pavillion de Geneve" on the 2nd.  There is no Vic shield.

Google say Christofle is an old time manufacturer of silverware from France and they have pavillions in 75 countries including Geneva.  I have an old 84mm Woodsman with a bail that has the exact same etching on the blade.

Anybody know the meaning of the inlay?

A bit of history I guess..... :cheers:
AND ANOTHER GREAT snag..................  8)  :ahhh  :cheers:

Thanks cali.....truly enjoying these little guys and this one especially for its history lessons...... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on August 07, 2016, 08:34:37 PM
"Post tenebras lux" means "after darkness (comes the) light". I did Latin, 42 years ago. Funny how it stuck.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 08, 2016, 12:17:42 AM
"Post tenebras lux" means "after darkness (comes the) light". I did Latin, 42 years ago. Funny how it stuck.

Ok Ronald.....gonna put you on the spot....what does the Latin on the sign that Gus McCrae took to Montana in "Lonesome Dove" actually say?  😜  "We don't rent pigs"?   :cheers:

A couple more 84's, an old small Camper with the old style awl (already had this one) and a small Tinker with the old style awl that I just received.  Both are Victoria, both have + PAT on the can opener and both have the scraper grind in the cap lifter.  Both dated approximately 1957-61.  Much smaller than a Swisschamp.  😜😜

max

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 08, 2016, 09:45:48 AM
Very Nice , Boonie Max  8) 8)
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on August 08, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Very Nice , Boonie Max  8) 8)
 :popcorn:

+1!!!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 08, 2016, 09:17:12 PM
Very Nice , Boonie Max  8) 8)
 :popcorn:

Thanks, obviously I AM enjoying myself. 😛
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on August 12, 2016, 09:03:40 PM
2016 Walker
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 12, 2016, 10:33:00 PM
Hi Ronald.......the Walker is really nice isn't it?  No back tools, just a simple knife and nice in the pocket.   :cheers:

Here's another simple one.....Recruit with the serrated main blade.  Only extras are T & T and a key ring, just like the Walker.

max
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 12, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
I only have 3. Tinker Small (metal tweezers, no keyring, can key), Waiter named "MC", and Sportsman II (Nylon Sportsman).

The Sportsman gets used. I love the size, the durable scales, and the nail file. Just wish it had scissors.  So I'm figuring on building one out of Golfer, Sportsman and a set of blue nylon scales. $40 might be a lot to pay just to get a donor 84mm scissors layer, but with time=money it's probably cheaper than trying to mod 91mm scissors into it.

LOVE THIS SIZE.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on August 12, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
Hi to you too Max!

It's the small woodsaw I like most. I feel naked without a woodsaw and many of my SAKs have one. I bought two Walkers recently, the second one will be the victim of a small modding project come winter.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 13, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
As usual there are some awesome 84's in here :dd:

 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 13, 2016, 12:44:10 AM
Hi to you too Max!

It's the small woodsaw I like most. I feel naked without a woodsaw and many of my SAKs have one. I bought two Walkers recently, the second one will be the victim of a small modding project come winter.

Ronald.....yes, I like the woodsaw also.  And the metal saw but they're hard to find.  You will have to post your mod when finished, I would like to see it.   :cheers:

JJ.....look for a Golfer with a long nail file on the back......that will give you almost everything the mod would but it would still be two layers.  With the cost of the donor, time, etc., might even be less expensive.  😛

max
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 13, 2016, 01:26:46 AM

JJ.....look for a Golfer with a long nail file on the back......that will give you almost everything the mod would but it would still be two layers.  With the cost of the donor, time, etc., might even be less expensive.  😛

I'd love to find one of those!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 13, 2016, 04:34:51 AM
Just gave my youngest a Recruit....the love continues!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 13, 2016, 05:46:46 AM
Amazing snags , what great LIL knives! - Congrats Ronald, Boonie Max ,& James!  8) 8) 8) :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Barry - Way to pay it forward  8) :ahhh
 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 13, 2016, 07:29:58 AM
Just gave my youngest a Recruit....the love continues!!

Barry....Like those little Recruits.....simple, no big decisions.....either cut or open it.  😜😜

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: PTRSAK on August 13, 2016, 09:35:55 AM
Just gave my youngest a Recruit....the love continues!!

Barry....Like those little Recruits.....simple, no big decisions.....either cut or open it.  😜😜

 :cheers:

Yep, plenty of Recruit love here too.   
My platoon...   http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41214.0.html
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 13, 2016, 06:09:19 PM
Just gave my youngest a Recruit....the love continues!!

Barry....Like those little Recruits.....simple, no big decisions.....either cut or open it.  😜😜

 :cheers:

Yep, plenty of Recruit love here too.   
My platoon...   http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,41214.0.html

My oh my!!!!  The word artist comes to mind.  Thank you for that!!!  I do well to just polish up red Cellidor.  😛
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 13, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
A new Alumnus.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1231_zpsgfeqhp9n.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1231_zpsgfeqhp9n.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 13, 2016, 09:53:05 PM
A new Alumnus.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1231_zpsgfeqhp9n.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1231_zpsgfeqhp9n.jpg.html)

Thats one of my dream knives. I just won a 84mm Golfer for under $30, advertising scales, no long nail file, not gonna feel too bad using it as a scissors donor.

What's the correct replacement spring for these?

Mighty nice and shiny Alumnus there :drool:




Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 13, 2016, 09:58:57 PM
The old ones were the single black springs. The newer were the silver double ones.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 13, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
The old ones were the single black springs. The newer were the silver double ones.

The one I've got on the way has the contemporary style spring. Is it the same as 91mm spring? Or is it the "medium" size spring I see for sale?
:think:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 13, 2016, 10:32:23 PM
A 91 spring will work but it needs to be modified. I cut a little off the end and make the bend tighter to fit in the 84's smaller hole. The 84mm springs are rare and hard to find.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 13, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
You can still get the medium double leg springs on eBay, multiple sellers.  The single leg?  Probably a lot tougher.

Very nice knife and surely a handy toolset.  Congrats..... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 14, 2016, 12:29:27 AM
You can still get the medium double leg springs on eBay, multiple sellers.  The single leg?  Probably a lot tougher.

Very nice knife and surely a handy toolset.  Congrats..... :cheers:

Just bought an 18 pack of scissor springs, 6 each of S M and L.
And to fill the last gap in my spring knowledge, which spring fits the 74mm scissors? (I don't own any in that size, but I'm guessing it's the small)

Appreciate the wisdom guys. 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 14, 2016, 12:51:10 AM
Left 2 fit 84mm and the 2 on the right are for 91mm.
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gigahzfemtohz/IMG_1233_zpsimxim3x2.jpg) (http://s289.photobucket.com/user/gigahzfemtohz/media/IMG_1233_zpsimxim3x2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on August 14, 2016, 01:15:40 AM
JJ.....looks like the medium to me. (Executive)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 18, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
Just got in the 84mm Golfer.  Even though it's an advertising scale, the Bürgi logo is an inlay like the Vic logo, so I'll probably clean these scales up and put it back together as a Waiter. Maybe somebody wants it to open beer and wine next to their Bürgi grill...

Great little knife, this. Though I'm gonna go ahead with the Sportsman mod.  I haven't seen any Walkers for under $20 so I think I'm gonna skip on the WS idea for now.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 18, 2016, 02:05:43 AM
I got a used lumberjack cheap if interested.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on August 18, 2016, 03:31:55 AM
Wood saw idea resurrected!

Just noticed the Golfer has the older style thicker tanged main blade..so probably gonna use that blade.

Blade, corckscrew (grooved), scissors, scissors backspring from Golfer

Nail file/spacer, blade layer backspring, openers/backspring/awl from Sportsman II

and..perhaps WS...has me thinking, that leaves me with a blades backspring from a hypothetical Lumberjack which has no back tools...which 2 implements could be shoehorned into there...small blade and serrated blade maybe. 

I need to see which "main blade" options exist for the 84mm knives.

Outdoor Alumnus XL
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 18, 2016, 08:20:05 PM
Don't buy these. They are for a 91mm knife. The hole is way to big for 84mm knife.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251679654434?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: murrydan on August 18, 2016, 08:43:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uahRZKn.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 19, 2016, 12:20:35 AM
Does anybody have a link to real 84mm springs?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on August 19, 2016, 03:28:06 AM
Woodsaw added to a Cadet
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 19, 2016, 07:51:36 AM
Excellent , MurryD & Spork LOL Jello  :D



 :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like:  :ahhh 8)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 19, 2016, 07:58:11 AM
Does anybody have a link to real 84mm springs?

Is it not worth buying one of these REPAIR KITS/SETS?   ( maybe part it out after?? )
there are cheaper LISTED NOW , this guy just has decent pics of sizes included  :tu:
I had this kit but sold it a few years ago  :facepalm:
Good luck Bro! :cheers:

LINK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knive-SPRING-REPAIR-KIT-Fix-Scissors-and-Pliers-33448-/131177515059?hash=item1e8aca0833:m:mmpGxs_e2Q4EBQtCEEYhA0w
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GigaHz on August 19, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
Does anybody have a link to real 84mm springs?

Is it not worth buying one of these REPAIR KITS/SETS?   ( maybe part it out after?? )
there are cheaper LISTED NOW , this guy just has decent pics of sizes included  :tu:
I had this kit but sold it a few years ago  :facepalm:
Good luck Bro! :cheers:

LINK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knive-SPRING-REPAIR-KIT-Fix-Scissors-and-Pliers-33448-/131177515059?hash=item1e8aca0833:m:mmpGxs_e2Q4EBQtCEEYhA0w

I bought that kit when it was $10 years ago. I already went through all the 84mm springs. Most of the new ones don't have the correct size in them. All I see in that kit is 91mm pliers springs, 91mm scissor springs and 58mm scissor springs. I am still on the look out for the correct ones.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NutSAK on August 19, 2016, 05:22:08 PM
Nice one Spork!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: m47mu74nt on August 30, 2016, 08:35:57 PM
My Cellidor/Nylon 84mm:
From left to right:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 30, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
 :tu: :tu: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Poncho65 on August 30, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
:tu: :tu: :like:

+1 Very nice m47 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on August 31, 2016, 12:34:56 AM
:tu: :tu: :like:

+1 Very nice m47 :like:
+2  :D  8) :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: m47mu74nt on December 10, 2016, 08:55:10 AM
 :hatsoff:

And after two weeks of carrying mostly 3 similar SAKs (Soldier, SI and DAK), it's time to have the Elinox back in pocket!

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on December 10, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
Waiter and Walker.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2016, 01:56:06 PM
My trusty old 80's 84m Tinker with split philips  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2016, 01:56:47 PM
And last one...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 10, 2016, 03:20:07 PM
The 84's are probably my favorite Vic's.  I only have two at the present, a Recruit and a fluted corkscrew Sportsman that I found, broken blade and neglected.  It's my rescue SAK!  Love that Tinker Mac!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on December 10, 2016, 03:43:05 PM
Love that Tinker Mac!!

Thanks mate  :tu: That one is probably my favourit of all. Bought it used a long time ago, with light pocket wear, and no wear on the tools, the only wear it has was made by me  :D
I love earlier Vic's, just seem a bit sturdier all around, even the old scales feel sturdier.Maybe it's just me, but the new ones feel a little bit less "solid" to me...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 10, 2016, 03:57:41 PM
I agree!  There's just something about the feel of them.   I love the variety, too, that both Vic and Wenger put out back in those days.  I'd really love to see the 84mm line repopulated.  I love they way they carry, a lot like the 85mm Wengers.  It's not even a full centimeter, but they just feel lighter in the pocket.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on December 10, 2016, 05:06:22 PM
Don't know if I've shared this here before,

Ribbed Bantam Alox I purchased a while back and my own custom Golfer

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/af78d83d163df027f011d617b15ab92d.jpg)

Watch Case Opener and Lumberjack

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161210/ed524a6844f0c2e66b593a8723433350.jpg)

Of all the 84mm's I have, the Golfer is my favourite carry... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 10, 2016, 07:57:22 PM
 :like: :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: nmpops on December 10, 2016, 09:09:11 PM
My favorite 84mm is my Tourist with nylon scales.

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 10, 2016, 11:16:55 PM
 :like: I like the Tourist myself!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on December 11, 2016, 12:14:00 AM
I have a Tourist mysef too, it's just like a scaled down version of the spartan  :D
I would love to get my hands on some nylon scales tho, are they still available anywhere?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on December 11, 2016, 04:41:31 AM
:like: :like: :tu: :tu:
:cheers: :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ThePeacent on December 11, 2016, 04:05:48 PM
Gotta love coffee,

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/CAM05820_zps5bzuqjxm.jpg)

gotta loe 84mm
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 11, 2016, 06:11:07 PM
 :like: Right on my friend!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 27, 2016, 01:40:17 PM

A couple more 84's, an old small Camper with the old style awl (already had this one) and a small Tinker with the old style awl that I just received.  Both are Victoria, both have + PAT on the can opener and both have the scraper grind in the cap lifter.  Both dated approximately 1957-61.  Much smaller than a Swisschamp.  😜😜

max
Hello, I ran across this thread because of my love of the "Camper".  I did not know there was an 84mm Camper.   :think:  Does your 84 have the wood saw?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: ThePeacent on December 27, 2016, 01:55:36 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-12/20161223_132930_zpskozaw6tj.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on December 27, 2016, 02:02:14 PM
Definitely in my top 3 favorite users.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 27, 2016, 02:03:32 PM
James which model is that in the photo?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on December 27, 2016, 02:16:37 PM
James which model is that in the photo?

You take a Sportsman II (aka nylon scales Sportsman), add a saw from a Lumberjack, and scissors from an 84mm Golfer. I never came up with a name for it. It's kind of like a Small Huntsman with a nail file, or an Alumnus with a wood saw.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on December 27, 2016, 02:43:55 PM
 :like:  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: FolderBeholder on December 27, 2016, 03:07:40 PM
James which model is that in the photo?

You take a Sportsman II (aka nylon scales Sportsman), add a saw from a Lumberjack, and scissors from an 84mm Golfer. I never came up with a name for it. It's kind of like a Small Huntsman with a nail file, or an Alumnus with a wood saw.

Ahhhh, I see and it figures, I always end up liking models that are either discontinued or not ever made at all.  :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: gene stoner on December 27, 2016, 07:29:52 PM
I haven't seen a Premier yet so here's mine with my Bantam.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: JamesJ on December 28, 2016, 04:53:36 AM
Here's my Tandy 1000
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on December 28, 2016, 08:54:44 AM
The 84mm's currently in my collection: Recruit, Pre-'85 Tourist, and Waiter.    I would love an 84mm Golfer or 84mm version of current Compact with the file/hook.    The Tinker Small seems to just be right as far as 84mm go but I don't have one on my possession yet.  I do however, have a brand new Wenger Highlander I don't want to start carrying just yet...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on December 28, 2016, 12:12:00 PM
Very nice gents. :tu:  I've not carried an 84mm SAK in far too long.  I might have to do something about that. :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: FA Tre on February 11, 2017, 11:20:42 PM
Recently added a Small Tinker. Find it much more comfortable in hand than the Cadet. (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2801/32692152502_8ea745e47b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RNTPXL) by -FA_Tre- (https://flic.kr/p/RNTPXL)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on February 11, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
This reminded me that I haven't carried my only 84mm in awhile either, the Sportsman.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on March 14, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
Been playing with these recently. 

I'm really falling for these little SAKs. 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on April 08, 2017, 07:59:29 AM
Carried my Sportsman yesterday for the first time in a long while. A very happy choice for a straightforward day for me both in and out of the office. I really do like 84mm  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
I've been enjoying a bit of 84mm love for the last week or so with my Climber Small. :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on April 08, 2017, 12:05:21 PM
I've been enjoying a bit of 84mm love for the last week or so with my Climber Small. :dd:

 :cheers: Lucky you to have one !
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 02:54:16 PM
I've been enjoying a bit of 84mm love for the last week or so with my Climber Small. :dd:

 :cheers: Lucky you to have one !

Cheers mate.  It really is a cracking wee SAK and has just reminded me how much I like the 84mm frame.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on April 08, 2017, 02:58:48 PM
Golfer pictured below on the left is a recent aquisition.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170408/a7dff8813861541a3fd99ca99259d4ee.jpg)

And so is this Waiter for Strellson
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170408/901e18360e9a380eaa57857ff6f58279.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 03:21:32 PM
Nice find on the Golfer jaya, they're not easy to find these days. :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
After the Climber Small I've decided to go a little thinner. 8)

(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/multitools/DSC_0048_zpswmugcpd5.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on April 08, 2017, 04:08:04 PM
Nice find on the Golfer jaya, they're not easy to find these days. :salute:
Thanks Gareth...

A friend offered me this... had to replace the blade... all scratched up and had a bent tip... scales were cracked too...

Luckily, I have a Waiter with similar blade stamping and scales... The spring on the scissor was missing as well. Used an old 91mm spring to fix it.. It's larger, but it will do for now...

:cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 05:46:24 PM
Nice find on the Golfer jaya, they're not easy to find these days. :salute:
Thanks Gareth...

A friend offered me this... had to replace the blade... all scratched up and had a bent tip... scales were cracked too...

Luckily, I have a Waiter with similar blade stamping and scales... The spring on the scissor was missing as well. Used an old 91mm spring to fix it.. It's larger, but it will do for now...

:cheers:


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Yeah, those 84mm scissor springs are tough to find for sure.  I got my hands on one, once. :shrug:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on April 08, 2017, 09:39:09 PM
A Climber small and a Salesman (which were called Super Tinkers back when they were in my shop).

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%202%204-8-17_zpsl1fujygy.jpg)

The Salesman is older, has a clip secondary...
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%204-8-17_zpsts9a7tl1.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on April 08, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
 :like:
A Climber small and a Salesman (which were called Super Tinkers back when they were in my shop).

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%202%204-8-17_zpsl1fujygy.jpg)

The Salesman is older, has a clip secondary...
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%204-8-17_zpsts9a7tl1.jpg)
:like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on April 08, 2017, 10:32:39 PM
A Climber small and a Salesman (which were called Super Tinkers back when they were in my shop).

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%202%204-8-17_zpsl1fujygy.jpg)

The Salesman is older, has a clip secondary...
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%204-8-17_zpsts9a7tl1.jpg)

 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on April 08, 2017, 10:33:48 PM
 :like:

A Salesman is one I'd love have in my collection. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: SAK Guy on April 08, 2017, 10:54:24 PM
Thx guys!!! :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on April 09, 2017, 10:51:05 PM
Great 84's guys!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on April 09, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
A Climber small and a Salesman (which were called Super Tinkers back when they were in my shop).

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%202%204-8-17_zpsl1fujygy.jpg)

The Salesman is older, has a clip secondary...
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/84mm%20duo%204-8-17_zpsts9a7tl1.jpg)
:like: :like: :like:

I see you're at it again, SG.... Thought we covered this... 

But seriously!  Awesome Pics!  I'd love to do some comparison pics in that style.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 05, 2017, 11:33:05 PM
My 84mm sak love has been refreshed...  :dd:

If only they would bring back the Salesman and the Climber small...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 05, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 06, 2017, 03:34:18 AM
+1!!!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on May 07, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
The Mega84 is still going strong, and is in the pocket today.

I also have a Climber Small, a Tourist, and a MFV.
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on May 07, 2017, 01:15:39 PM
The Mega84 is still going strong, and is in the pocket today.

I also have a Climber Small, a Tourist, and a MFV.
That's an awesome 84mm you have there... love the serrated blade... :like: :like: :like:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on May 07, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
Thank you  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: kirk13 on May 11, 2017, 10:16:24 PM
It's a Lumberjack,and it's alright!

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy104/kirk130013/April16/image_zpsc0pcsasa.jpeg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/kirk130013/media/April16/image_zpsc0pcsasa.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 11, 2017, 10:54:46 PM
It's a Lumberjack,and it's alright!

(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy104/kirk130013/April16/image_zpsc0pcsasa.jpeg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/kirk130013/media/April16/image_zpsc0pcsasa.jpeg.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaRd4d8hOY
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on May 11, 2017, 11:10:58 PM
And now for something completely different ... :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 12, 2017, 03:19:53 AM
 :rofl: :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 12, 2017, 10:56:27 AM
I'm really hooked in the 84's again.... :ahhh I think it's the perfect pocket edc SAK size.
If Vic had all the 91 series available in 84 size i would be a happy guy  :D

Other than the 7mm difference in length the Tourist/Small Tinker owes nothing to the Spartan/Tinker IMO  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on May 23, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
A couple of happy days with my 84mm Sportsman :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on May 24, 2017, 02:33:04 AM
Great knives Bill!!  I've a couple myself  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 24, 2017, 03:59:18 AM
A couple of happy days with my 84mm Sportsman :D

and look at 'er shine!  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 24, 2017, 10:59:33 AM
A couple of happy days with my 84mm Sportsman :D
:like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on May 25, 2017, 06:54:54 AM
Thanks guys, shiny I know but I tend to carry my smaller SAKs in a cloth pouch to save it from pocket rash so it's a bit self polishing  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: rivercity on May 25, 2017, 08:31:01 AM
 :like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on May 25, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
Thanks guys, shiny I know but I tend to carry my smaller SAKs in a cloth pouch to save it from pocket rash so it's a bit self polishing  :salute:

is that something specific you've got a link too?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 25, 2017, 11:30:38 AM
:like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)
:like: :like:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 25, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
:like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)
:like: :like:

Hey Mac, is it called the "Tinker Small" or the "Small Tinker"?  I always get those mixed up... or is it the regular Tinker then the Tinker El Grande?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 25, 2017, 11:40:03 AM
:like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)
:like: :like:

Hey Mac, is it called the "Tinker Small" or the "Small Tinker"?  I always get those mixed up... or is it the regular Tinker then the Tinker El Grande?

I really don't know anymore mate....  :think:
I've seen it being called a lot of ways on several sites, Vic always called it the Tinker Small, but a lot of sites call it the Small Tinker, or Tinker 84mm, even Tinker Mini, so take your pick...  :rofl:

I think Vic shoud have came up with another name for it like they did with the Tourist, instead of calling it Spartan Small...  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gardel on May 25, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
They should have named the 91mm something else when they came out with it and left the Tinker alone. Old catalogs only show the 84mm if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on May 25, 2017, 07:19:40 PM
Thanks guys, shiny I know but I tend to carry my smaller SAKs in a cloth pouch to save it from pocket rash so it's a bit self polishing  :salute:

is that something specific you've got a link too?

No it's just something I made for myself from a strip of curtain as it happens. As shown here with my 85mm Evolution 10
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on May 25, 2017, 07:20:27 PM
:like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)

Very nice RC  :like: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 26, 2017, 12:46:18 AM
:like:

 :drink:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4195/34068447103_fc69c91d48_z.jpg)
:like: :like:

Hey Mac, is it called the "Tinker Small" or the "Small Tinker"?  I always get those mixed up... or is it the regular Tinker then the Tinker El Grande?

I really don't know anymore mate....  :think:
I've seen it being called a lot of ways on several sites, Vic always called it the Tinker Small, but a lot of sites call it the Small Tinker, or Tinker 84mm, even Tinker Mini, so take your pick...  :rofl:

I think Vic shoud have came up with another name for it like they did with the Tourist, instead of calling it Spartan Small...  :D

I probably should have included a  :pok: Or something.  But I agree an independent name would be better.

Mine's called El Tinkerito  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on May 30, 2017, 02:24:50 PM
Just got a used Salesman... pictured here with Climber Small and Golfer...
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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 30, 2017, 03:10:36 PM
Just got a used Salesman... pictured here with Climber Small and Golfer...
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 :drool:       :drool:       :drool:    Me want......  :dd:

I'm really getting firmly with the 84mm format again. When i pick up a 91mm these days it feels huge  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on May 30, 2017, 03:11:54 PM
Just got a used Salesman... pictured here with Climber Small and Golfer...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170530/18430c4454d1275462305fae49df0d7b.jpg)


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 :drool:       :drool:       :drool:    Me want......  :dd:

I'm really getting firmly with the 84mm format again. When i pick up a 91mm these days it feels huge  :facepalm:
84mm is perfect for me when pocket space is a premium :cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 30, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
And i especially love that Salesman, and the fact it has the later round Philips  :salute:
I honestly have to say... I've never really liked the old square Philips... Much prefer the round one  :pommel:   :pommel:   :pommel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on May 30, 2017, 03:48:19 PM
And i especially love that Salesman, and the fact it has the later round Philips  :salute:
I honestly have to say... I've never really liked the old square Philips... Much prefer the round one  :pommel:   :pommel:   :pommel:
This particular salesman has the can key :cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 30, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
And i especially love that Salesman, and the fact it has the later round Philips  :salute:
I honestly have to say... I've never really liked the old square Philips... Much prefer the round one  :pommel:   :pommel:   :pommel:

You're just saying that b/c that's what Angus carried.  :pok: :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 30, 2017, 05:57:01 PM
And i especially love that Salesman, and the fact it has the later round Philips  :salute:
I honestly have to say... I've never really liked the old square Philips... Much prefer the round one  :pommel:   :pommel:   :pommel:

You're just saying that b/c that's what Angus carried.  :pok: :D
:whistle: :whistle:  :angel:  ...probably... :rofl:

I wonder if in any on the Ep's we think is a Super Tinker he was in fact carrying a Salesman...  In "Kill Zone" he is "apparently" using the SuperTinker in the elevator scene, it just maybe a Salesman for all we know...

In what year was the Salesman discontinued, again...?  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on May 30, 2017, 06:39:38 PM
I've got a pair of 84mm Tinkers, one with the square can key phillips and the other without.  I really enjoy the size on these SAKs and quite honestly would love to see a whole range of 91mm SAKs turned into 84mms.  I especially would love to see an 84mm with mag glass and inline phillips. 

Needless to say we'd all love to see the 84mm line return with scissors. 

Who am I to say, well I'm saying it anyway, Victorinox come on already and release some 84mm love to your adoring fans.   
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: theonew on May 30, 2017, 09:01:47 PM
I'm definitely feeling the 84mm love. After having carried a waiter almost exclusively the last several weeks, I've found this size to be ideal. Barely noticeable in the pocket with just enough blade for EDC tasks. Even though I don't use it every day or even every week, I do like to have a saw on my SAK and use them to cut plastic, rubber, hard laminated cardboard and even wood. So a Walker seemed like the obvious next step into the 84mm realm.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/theonew/20170530_144010.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on May 30, 2017, 10:59:53 PM
Makes perfect sense to me.  The saw is as versatile as your creativity.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: theonew on May 30, 2017, 11:22:45 PM
Plus that decisive thwack sound when it is closed is just :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 30, 2017, 11:33:25 PM
I'm definitely feeling the 84mm love. After having carried a waiter almost exclusively the last several weeks, I've found this size to be ideal. Barely noticeable in the pocket with just enough blade for EDC tasks. Even though I don't use it every day or even every week, I do like to have a saw on my SAK and use them to cut plastic, rubber, hard laminated cardboard and even wood. So a Walker seemed like the obvious next step into the 84mm realm.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/theonew/20170530_144010.jpg)

Hummm... now that i think about it... I still don't have a Walker... :think:
Must change that  :D
Wife is probably going to kill me though, since i've bought 5 84mm's in the last two weeks...  :duel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: theonew on May 31, 2017, 12:01:13 AM
That's another nice thing about the 84mms, they are relatively inexpensive. I paid $17 delivered for the Walker and recently spent $17 on a burger and fries, which I was only able to carry for about 10 hours :whistle:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: captain spaulding on May 31, 2017, 01:08:54 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on May 31, 2017, 05:21:42 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Ah... a variation of the buy 3 principle... get 1 to use and 2 for backup...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: captain spaulding on May 31, 2017, 05:23:10 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Ah... a variation of the buy 3 principle... get 1 to use and 2 for backup...


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Yea sir.  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 07:53:06 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Ah... a variation of the buy 3 principle... get 1 to use and 2 for backup...


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Yea sir.  :D


yup :D
 :cheers:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 31, 2017, 09:48:25 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Ah... a variation of the buy 3 principle... get 1 to use and 2 for backup...


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Yea sir.  :D


yup :D
 :cheers:

Oh yeah, my number one principle  :D

I still have to buy more two "current" small tinkers and tourists  :ahhh

In all I probably have 7 small tinkers overall so far and 2 tourists  :whistle:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 10:01:34 AM
Been carrying a 84mm Electrician and love it!

I have two more new in clamshell just in case.  >:D
Ah... a variation of the buy 3 principle... get 1 to use and 2 for backup...


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Yea sir.  :D


yup :D
 :cheers:

Oh yeah, my number one principle  :D

I still have to buy more two "current" small tinkers and tourists  :ahhh

In all I probably have 7 small tinkers overall so far and 2 tourists  :whistle:

7 is definitely not enough

Despite my best efforts, I'm up to around 20 Spartans again...   :facepalm:  anybody NEED one?

I'm sporting a Commander today... all my Spartans are like "psh"
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 31, 2017, 11:35:55 AM
Just look at this late 80's/early 90's small tinker NIB beauty, never used, not a scratch, solid scales...  :drool:

If only i lived in the States....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Rare-84MM-Small-Tinker-1036/282493412278?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3De0de5fc574f5407a8d7c611e3401e6d9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232344047588

And to think that when i bought my used 80's ones back in ´round 2006 i found an e-bay seller that still had 4 NIB ones like this one for like $8 each, and i ended up not buying them at the time cause i forgot...  :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 06:02:49 PM
85mm's are not without their charm...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
Just look at this late 80's/early 90's small tinker NIB beauty, never used, not a scratch, solid scales...  :drool:

If only i lived in the States....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Rare-84MM-Small-Tinker-1036/282493412278?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3De0de5fc574f5407a8d7c611e3401e6d9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232344047588

And to think that when i bought my used 80's ones back in ´round 2006 i found an e-bay seller that still had 4 NIB ones like this one for like $8 each, and i ended up not buying them at the time cause i forgot...  :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd:

Bid placed.  I'll try to get it for ya. :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 31, 2017, 08:24:08 PM
Just look at this late 80's/early 90's small tinker NIB beauty, never used, not a scratch, solid scales...  :drool:

If only i lived in the States....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Rare-84MM-Small-Tinker-1036/282493412278?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3De0de5fc574f5407a8d7c611e3401e6d9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232344047588

And to think that when i bought my used 80's ones back in ´round 2006 i found an e-bay seller that still had 4 NIB ones like this one for like $8 each, and i ended up not buying them at the time cause i forgot...  :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd:

Bid placed.  I'll try to get it for ya. :cheers:

Mate, if you're trying to get it on my behalf i appreciate the gesture immensely, but it's not worth the bother really... The shipping cost from the US to Europe alone would be huge and not worth it unfortunately  :(
Shipping costs from the US are usually above $20, plus the final cost of the item it would be too high...
I remember back in 2006/07 paying like 5 bucks or less for small items shipping, in later years prices has gone up exponentially unfortunately :(
 
But if you want it for yourself, go for it mate, its well worth it  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 31, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
Just look at this late 80's/early 90's small tinker NIB beauty, never used, not a scratch, solid scales...  :drool:

If only i lived in the States....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Rare-84MM-Small-Tinker-1036/282493412278?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3De0de5fc574f5407a8d7c611e3401e6d9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232344047588

And to think that when i bought my used 80's ones back in ´round 2006 i found an e-bay seller that still had 4 NIB ones like this one for like $8 each, and i ended up not buying them at the time cause i forgot...  :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd:

Bid placed.  I'll try to get it for ya. :cheers:

Mate, if you're trying to get it on my behalf i appreciate the gesture immensely, but it's not worth the bother really... The shipping cost from the US to Europe alone would be huge and not worth it unfortunately  :(
Shipping costs from the US are usually above $20, plus the final cost of the item it would be too high...
I remember back in 2006/07 paying like 5 bucks or less for small items shipping, in later years prices has gone up exponentially unfortunately :(
 
But if you want it for yourself, go for it mate, its well worth it  :cheers:

I think you need to have it. It'll be on El Corkscrew .  shipping cost ain't that bad.  I won't increase my bid, we'll see  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on May 31, 2017, 10:32:23 PM
Just look at this late 80's/early 90's small tinker NIB beauty, never used, not a scratch, solid scales...  :drool:

If only i lived in the States....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Rare-84MM-Small-Tinker-1036/282493412278?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3De0de5fc574f5407a8d7c611e3401e6d9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232344047588

And to think that when i bought my used 80's ones back in ´round 2006 i found an e-bay seller that still had 4 NIB ones like this one for like $8 each, and i ended up not buying them at the time cause i forgot...  :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd:

Bid placed.  I'll try to get it for ya. :cheers:

Mate, if you're trying to get it on my behalf i appreciate the gesture immensely, but it's not worth the bother really... The shipping cost from the US to Europe alone would be huge and not worth it unfortunately  :(
Shipping costs from the US are usually above $20, plus the final cost of the item it would be too high...
I remember back in 2006/07 paying like 5 bucks or less for small items shipping, in later years prices has gone up exponentially unfortunately :(
 
But if you want it for yourself, go for it mate, its well worth it  :cheers:

I think you need to have it. It'll be on El Corkscrew .  shipping cost ain't that bad.  I won't increase my bid, we'll see  :cheers:

Gee man, don't know what to say... Thanks mate  :cheers: Really appreciate it  :salute: :hatsoff:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 04, 2017, 05:09:35 PM
Great NIB "old style" economy Tourist (no T&T and key ring) on e-bay now, if anyone is interested...  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-84mm-Economy-Knife-NIB-V23600/152567240612?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D060536f34a3f4eb48774cb76c6741bd5%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D162497397645
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 04, 2017, 07:10:25 PM
Great NIB "old style" economy Tourist (no T&T and key ring) on e-bay now, if anyone is interested...  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-84mm-Economy-Knife-NIB-V23600/152567240612?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D060536f34a3f4eb48774cb76c6741bd5%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D162497397645

Pretty sweet.

I just picked up this dude to add to my 70's ad Tourist collection.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 05, 2017, 11:25:48 AM
Great NIB "old style" economy Tourist (no T&T and key ring) on e-bay now, if anyone is interested...  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-84mm-Economy-Knife-NIB-V23600/152567240612?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D060536f34a3f4eb48774cb76c6741bd5%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D162497397645

Pretty sweet.

I just picked up this dude to add to my 70's ad Tourist collection.

Sweet  :like:

Incidentally that auction on the NIB Tourist economy went for $6.50  :o
Hope someone in the forum bought it, or at least some one who will love it, treat it right, and put it to good use  :D

There is another auction for an well used (cracked mag frame) 80's Yeoman for $118...  :o Really...? :sa:
I mean it's nice, but not even nearly close to $100 nice...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-COLLECTIBLE-HTF-VICTORINOX-91mm-EARLY-ORIGINAL-YEOMAN-SAK-BORN-EARLY-1980S/381897461864?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D35e42813340a460ca5cb2c73544384cd%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D152567240612
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 05, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
Great NIB "old style" economy Tourist (no T&T and key ring) on e-bay now, if anyone is interested...  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-84mm-Economy-Knife-NIB-V23600/152567240612?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D060536f34a3f4eb48774cb76c6741bd5%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D162497397645

Pretty sweet.

I just picked up this dude to add to my 70's ad Tourist collection.

Sweet  :like:

Incidentally that auction on the NIB Tourist economy went for $6.50  :o
Hope someone in the forum bought it, or at least some one who will love it, treat it right, and put it to good use  :D

There is another auction for an well used (cracked mag frame) 80's Yeoman for $118...  :o Really...? :sa:
I mean it's nice, but not even nearly close to $100 nice...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-COLLECTIBLE-HTF-VICTORINOX-91mm-EARLY-ORIGINAL-YEOMAN-SAK-BORN-EARLY-1980S/381897461864?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D35e42813340a460ca5cb2c73544384cd%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D152567240612

Ridiculous.  I actually put down a bid on that Tourist but set a $10 (w/shipping) limit for myself b/c I've gone a little crazy this past week:

6 Farmers (one sent to Dad)
1 Pioneer
2 Soldiers ('85 NIB, '94)
1 OC Popular
2 SI's('82, '01)
1 Vintage Tinker Small
1 Ranger (inlay)
1 Camper (inlay)
1 Tourist (70's Economy)
1 Executive (white)
1 Bantam
1 Super Tinker
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 05, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
There is also a nice NIB vintage Recruit economy on now, but starting price is a bit high, and the "buy it now" is not very low either...  :-\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORINOX-SWISS-ARMY-KNIVES-2-2500/292140635037?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dd0a97c738fc448ba9c90fc6974823722%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112431528408
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 05, 2017, 05:48:43 PM
There is also a nice NIB vintage Recruit economy on now, but starting price is a bit high, and the "buy it now" is not very low either...  :-\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORINOX-SWISS-ARMY-KNIVES-2-2500/292140635037?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dd0a97c738fc448ba9c90fc6974823722%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112431528408

I don't think it's that bad of a deal. Especially for that awesome 70s box.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 05, 2017, 05:53:04 PM
There is also a nice NIB vintage Recruit economy on now, but starting price is a bit high, and the "buy it now" is not very low either...  :-\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORINOX-SWISS-ARMY-KNIVES-2-2500/292140635037?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dd0a97c738fc448ba9c90fc6974823722%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112431528408

I don't think it's that bad of a deal. Especially for that awesome 70s box.

I think only the box is a probably 70's (style) one, the sak is described as being 90's, and the groove in the can opener seems to be from the 90's too  :think:
But yeah... on second thought it's not really a bad price...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 05, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
There is also a nice NIB vintage Recruit economy on now, but starting price is a bit high, and the "buy it now" is not very low either...  :-\
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORINOX-SWISS-ARMY-KNIVES-2-2500/292140635037?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Dd0a97c738fc448ba9c90fc6974823722%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112431528408

I don't think it's that bad of a deal. Especially for that awesome 70s box.

I think only the box is a probably 70's (style) one, the sak is described as being 90's, and the groove in the can opener seems to be from the 90's too  :think:

Pretty sure it's pre-85 - Small V in Victorinox
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 05, 2017, 08:44:52 PM
85mm's are not without their charm...

Too True. And if that extra 1mm comes with Jelly Red scales (I'm a sucker for Jelly Red)... in short I've had a day of guilt for leaving the Sportsman at home. And tomorrow the Tinker Small will get a day out. Oh dear oh dear oh dear .... :dwts: :dwts: :dwts:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 05, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
85mm's are not without their charm...

Too True. And if that extra 1mm comes with Jelly Red scales (I'm a sucker for Jelly Red)... in short I've had a day of guilt for leaving the Sportsman at home. And tomorrow the Tinker Small will get a day out. Oh dear oh dear oh dear .... :dwts: :dwts: :dwts:

I'm sure no one will blame you if you carry her for Wenger Wednesday.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 07, 2017, 04:31:22 AM
Making a little video about economy scales,  Waiter, Tourist, and Tinker Small getting some screen time.  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 10, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
That older Tinker Small arrived.  It's pretty neat.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 10, 2017, 08:13:02 AM
without so much red and beside his party-animal brother, El Tourist.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on June 10, 2017, 09:05:07 AM
Thanks guys, shiny I know but I tend to carry my smaller SAKs in a cloth pouch to save it from pocket rash so it's a bit self polishing  :salute:

is that something specific you've got a link too?

No it's just something I made for myself from a strip of curtain as it happens. As shown here with my 85mm Evolution 10

ooops, I forgot I asked about this. :-[  cheers mate. 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 10, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
Almost forgot to mention El Lumberjack...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 10, 2017, 09:30:14 AM
Almost forgot to mention El Lumberjack...

 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on June 10, 2017, 09:50:24 AM
Almost forgot to mention El Lumberjack...
The Lumberjack, or rather, the new Walker with t&t, is my fave 84mm. I have several and am considering modding the combo tool into a curved serrated blade like the one on the Hunter. Anyone tried this before? Thoughts?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 10, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
without so much red and beside his party-animal brother, El Tourist.
:drool:   :drool:   :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 10, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
Almost forgot to mention El Lumberjack...
The Lumberjack, or rather, the new Walker with t&t, is my fave 84mm. I have several and am considering modding the combo tool into a curved serrated blade like the one on the Hunter. Anyone tried this before? Thoughts?

I would mod one into a 84mm Camper  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on June 10, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
Almost forgot to mention El Lumberjack...
The Lumberjack, or rather, the new Walker with t&t, is my fave 84mm. I have several and am considering modding the combo tool into a curved serrated blade like the one on the Hunter. Anyone tried this before? Thoughts?

I would mod one into a 84mm Camper  :D
Transferring the saw layer to a Tourist shouldn't be too difficult. But I have enough Campers as it is. It's the combo tool mod that's of interest to me, it would turn my Walker into a mini Wabbit Hunter.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on June 11, 2017, 04:10:02 AM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
Wow, nice find there. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaydar on June 11, 2017, 04:41:01 PM
Old 4 rivet 84mm Climber

Found this this morning ... few cracks around the pins ... but apart from that pretty good ... needs a clean though

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2017, 05:08:55 PM
...and just like that you trump Clown's find. :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 11, 2017, 06:06:45 PM
Old 4 rivet 84mm Climber

Found this this morning ... few cracks around the pins ... but apart from that pretty good ... needs a clean though

:like: :tu: :drool: :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 11, 2017, 06:08:06 PM
Did a video of my small but growing 84mm collection (and a few 74mm)

https://youtu.be/YRrdIRMvuqs

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on June 11, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)

Congrats Clown, these are very handy knives......seems to me that most have the can key except the older ones with the file on the Phillips.      :tu:      :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on June 11, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
Old 4 rivet 84mm Climber

Found this this morning ... few cracks around the pins ... but apart from that pretty good ... needs a clean though

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Wow!!!  That is yummy........40's or before?    :tu:          :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 11, 2017, 08:10:30 PM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)

Congrats Clown, these are very handy knives......seems to me that most have the can key except the older ones with the file on the Phillips.      :tu:      :cheers:

Yep, can key days from around '68 - '92  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaydar on June 11, 2017, 08:59:42 PM

Wow!!!  That is yummy........40's or before?    :tu:          :cheers:

I am guessing pre first world war ... the fourth rivet was hidden a long time back
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on June 11, 2017, 09:35:59 PM

Wow!!!  That is yummy........40's or before?    :tu:          :cheers:

I am guessing pre first world war ... the fourth rivet was hidden a long time back

Even more wow!!  It does look like a small 1908 with scissors from the top.  Nice find, I suppose they are just laying around everywhere over there.  😜😜      :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 12, 2017, 12:46:43 AM
 :drool: :drool: :like: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on June 12, 2017, 04:44:43 AM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)

Congrats Clown, these are very handy knives......seems to me that most have the can key except the older ones with the file on the Phillips.      :tu:      :cheers:

Yep, can key days from around '68 - '92  :cheers:

Good to know.  Might help me date it.  Thanks guys!

Quick question....
Looks from the pics like the tweezers might be missing.  Are the tweezers on the 84mm models the same as on the 91mm?  Or at least the same as the 85mm Delemonts?  I'll probably need to track down a new set.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 12, 2017, 05:13:16 AM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)

Congrats Clown, these are very handy knives......seems to me that most have the can key except the older ones with the file on the Phillips.      :tu:      :cheers:

Yep, can key days from around '68 - '92  :cheers:

Good to know.  Might help me date it.  Thanks guys!

Quick question....
Looks from the pics like the tweezers might be missing.  Are the tweezers on the 84mm models the same as on the 91mm?  Or at least the same as the 85mm Delemonts?  I'll probably need to track down a new set.

Yep, same size as 84mm (not sure about delemont Vic). Aluminum tipped pre'78 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on June 12, 2017, 05:47:59 AM
I just won this Salesman on the bay.  Can't wait for it to get here
(http://i.imgur.com/qfZ7Kxr.jpg)
(sellers pic)

Congrats Clown, these are very handy knives......seems to me that most have the can key except the older ones with the file on the Phillips.      :tu:      :cheers:

Yep, can key days from around '68 - '92  :cheers:

Good to know.  Might help me date it.  Thanks guys!

Quick question....
Looks from the pics like the tweezers might be missing.  Are the tweezers on the 84mm models the same as on the 91mm?  Or at least the same as the 85mm Delemonts?  I'll probably need to track down a new set.

Yep, same size as 84mm (not sure about delemont Vic). Aluminum tipped pre'78 :cheers:

Thank you sir! 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 12, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 12, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today
:like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on June 12, 2017, 10:47:41 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 13, 2017, 07:44:50 AM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:

I know I know, I'm trying to teach myself that there's more to this than Jelly. If they ever do a purple jelly scale I'll be in real trouble. But in a good way ... :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 13, 2017, 04:57:38 PM
El Serrated Recruit  :climber:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: magentus on June 13, 2017, 04:58:54 PM
El Serrated Recruit  :climber:
Nice! Sweet Sweet Serrations!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 13, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:

I know I know, I'm trying to teach myself that there's more to this than Jelly. If they ever do a purple jelly scale I'll be in real trouble. But in a good way ... :dd:
There's a purple jelly scale...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/6931a2c7c016f26c631b8f531c9cfa3a.jpg)
Not mine though :cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on June 13, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
If only there was a cadet plus scissors  :dd: :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Boonies on June 13, 2017, 05:41:53 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:

I know I know, I'm trying to teach myself that there's more to this than Jelly. If they ever do a purple jelly scale I'll be in real trouble. But in a good way ... :dd:
There's a purple jelly scale...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/6931a2c7c016f26c631b8f531c9cfa3a.jpg)
Not mine though :cheers:


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Oh oh, Bill's in trouble....... :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 13, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
Ruuun


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 13, 2017, 07:13:20 PM
Ribbed alox is cool...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/1542ac88c7768a5b9bd71a85e0dc49be.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 13, 2017, 08:14:48 PM
Ribbed alox is cool...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/1542ac88c7768a5b9bd71a85e0dc49be.jpg)


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Yes it is.  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on June 13, 2017, 10:23:30 PM
Ribbed alox is cool...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/1542ac88c7768a5b9bd71a85e0dc49be.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 13, 2017, 10:35:55 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:

I know I know, I'm trying to teach myself that there's more to this than Jelly. If they ever do a purple jelly scale I'll be in real trouble. But in a good way ... :dd:
There's a purple jelly scale...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/6931a2c7c016f26c631b8f531c9cfa3a.jpg)
Not mine though :cheers:


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Oooooooooh !!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 13, 2017, 10:39:19 PM
Purple Cadet and Classic today


What???  No red jelly today?  Maybe on the toast this morning.......... :rofl:

Like that color........ :tu:

I know I know, I'm trying to teach myself that there's more to this than Jelly. If they ever do a purple jelly scale I'll be in real trouble. But in a good way ... :dd:
There's a purple jelly scale...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/6931a2c7c016f26c631b8f531c9cfa3a.jpg)
Not mine though :cheers:


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Oh oh, Bill's in trouble....... :rofl:

 :rofl: :rofl: Yep. Not seen that before ...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on June 13, 2017, 10:42:56 PM
Tinker Small for TT

So which ones the Classic ?  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 13, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
Ribbed alox is cool...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/1542ac88c7768a5b9bd71a85e0dc49be.jpg)


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:like:
:cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 13, 2017, 11:28:56 PM
Ribbed alox is cool...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/1542ac88c7768a5b9bd71a85e0dc49be.jpg)


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Yes it is.  :like: :cheers:
:cheers:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on June 16, 2017, 01:01:37 AM
Yeah buddy!
(http://i.imgur.com/tuX4abX.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 16, 2017, 02:41:08 AM
Yeah buddy!
(http://i.imgur.com/tuX4abX.jpg)


 :like: :like: :climber:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 16, 2017, 05:06:54 AM
Sweet knife!!   :climber: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on June 16, 2017, 09:47:13 AM
Yeah buddy!
(http://i.imgur.com/tuX4abX.jpg)
8)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 16, 2017, 11:40:40 AM
Yeah buddy!
(http://i.imgur.com/tuX4abX.jpg)
:drool:    :drool:    :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 16, 2017, 05:49:37 PM
Great NIB advertising 80's style Tourist (no T&T and ring) here (50 min to go):  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Red-Schneeberger-875/282517482190?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dc214e4c729b543eaac6f37e4de0dcbf8%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D292140635037
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 16, 2017, 06:27:56 PM
Great NIB advertising 80's style Tourist (no T&T and ring) here (50 min to go):  :cheers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Red-Schneeberger-875/282517482190?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dc214e4c729b543eaac6f37e4de0dcbf8%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D292140635037
Bid placed, funny it's selling from the area of NC from which I hail. :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 16, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
He seems to have a lot of NIB vintage advertising ones. Cool vintage pre hook (no T&T) climber (Schnider) here :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Red-Schindler-874/282517668625?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dfb976a50b5a84fdfbc41da414a63810f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282517482190

And some more here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Red-Protherm-819/282523227654?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dfb976a50b5a84fdfbc41da414a63810f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282517482190
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Red-Crosrol-564/282525139235?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D971f7b460d2c40bc837004c13bd891b8%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282517482190

And from other guys some cool NIB vintage too:´

NIB Marlboro Trail guide:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Switzerland-3-5-8-Marlboro-Advertising-Knife-MINT/362008315020?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D3749dcc5d559483d9706eff9544096eb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D362008312892

NIB clip blade spartan:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Switzerland-3-5-8-Camper-Multifunction-Knife-MIB/362006092153?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dfb976a50b5a84fdfbc41da414a63810f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282517482190

NIB pre-pliers Angler:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Switzerland-3-5-8-ANGLER-Big-Multifunction-Knife-MINT/362008312892?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Dfb976a50b5a84fdfbc41da414a63810f%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D282517482190

NIB vintage champion:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Champion-Red-Swiss-Army-Knife-1-5793-NIB/182619973657?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D3749dcc5d559483d9706eff9544096eb%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D362008312892

Very nice stuff for collectors there :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 16, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
I think the tourist was the most interesting one. It's mine :D

Got quite a few of these 70's-80's Tourists w/Swiss or German ads. They're all economy scales, no KR :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 16, 2017, 08:40:24 PM
I think the tourist was the most interesting one. It's mine :D

Got quite a few of these 70's-80's Tourists w/Swiss or German ads. They're all economy scales, no KR :cheers:

Nice snag mate.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 17, 2017, 07:53:44 AM
Just scored an 84mm Golfer  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :climber:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on June 17, 2017, 08:22:40 AM
Just scored an 84mm Golfer  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :climber:


(seller pics)
Scoooorrrrreeee... Nice Golfer...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 17, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Just scored an 84mm Golfer  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :climber:


(seller pics)
:drool:   :drool:  Another great score mate  (even more for a Compact lover) :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 17, 2017, 04:07:22 PM
Felt like taking a couple of shots of my favorite 84mm twins...  :D  Along with one of my vintage lighter's that belonged to my Dad

Sorry for the dark pics...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 17, 2017, 04:43:12 PM
Felt like taking a couple of shots of my favorite 84mm twins...  :D  Along with one of my vintage lighter's that belonged to my Dad

Sorry for the dark pics...  :facepalm:


 :like: :like: :like: :like: :tu: :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on June 17, 2017, 11:25:45 PM
Just scored an 84mm Golfer  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :climber:


(seller pics)

sweet. 8)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 20, 2017, 12:58:38 AM
Found this pics on an e-bay sell, two transition period (thinner blade tang with old stampings and crossbow) small tinkers apparently from the same period. Notice the differences in parts between them, namely the can opener, the Phillips driver, it has the current awl, but still solid scales....  :facepalm:

Anybody have a clue how long this transition period went on...?

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on June 25, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 06:04:33 PM
Hope this thread isn't too old to ask a question or two.
Mainly I'm curious about the 84mm's and I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to educate me, if even a little  :tu:

Looking at Victorinox's web site, it seems for the most part the evolution series is what currently comprises the 84mm size? I think I might also have read something about Wenger as well (?) as in, are the evolution series from a Wenger past? Most of the ones I see in this thread are older mostly discontinued models?

Anyhow, I'm hoping someone could give me just a brief history on the 84's and the evolution series or where they fit in. And, are those very popular or desireable? The Grip 14 looks like a nice little knife to me. (and sorry in advance for my ignorance of if this has all been posted before)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 06:11:08 PM
Hope this thread isn't too old to ask a question or two.
Mainly I'm curious about the 84mm's and I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to educate me, if even a little  :tu:

Looking at Victorinox's web site, it seems for the most part the evolution series is what currently comprises the 84mm size? I think I might also have read something about Wenger as well (?) as in, are the evolution series from a Wenger past? Most of the ones I see in this thread are older mostly discontinued models?

Anyhow, I'm hoping someone could give me just a brief history on the 84's and the evolution series or where they fit in. And, are those very popular or desireable? The Grip 14 looks like a nice little knife to me. (and sorry in advance for my ignorance of if this has all been posted before)

I'm no expert on the evolution series but I believe they are mostly Wenger-inspired with Vic filling in the gaps and switching out tools here and there. The evolution series began in 2005 around the time Wenger was going out of business and was absorbed by Victorinox completely by 2014 but kept the old Wenger factory in Delemont open.

There were many more 84mm models available up in to the mid 80's when they stopped making 84mm scissors due to factory equipment issues.  To answer your question, 84mm knives, especially those with tools outside the standard openers/blades/file are very popular among collectors and users.


Hope that helps.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 06:24:59 PM
Hope this thread isn't too old to ask a question or two.
Mainly I'm curious about the 84mm's and I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to educate me, if even a little  :tu:

Looking at Victorinox's web site, it seems for the most part the evolution series is what currently comprises the 84mm size? I think I might also have read something about Wenger as well (?) as in, are the evolution series from a Wenger past? Most of the ones I see in this thread are older mostly discontinued models?

Anyhow, I'm hoping someone could give me just a brief history on the 84's and the evolution series or where they fit in. And, are those very popular or desireable? The Grip 14 looks like a nice little knife to me. (and sorry in advance for my ignorance of if this has all been posted before)

I'm no expert on the evolution series but I believe they are mostly Wenger-inspired with Vic filling in the gaps and switching out tools here and there. The evolution series began in 2005 around the time Wenger was going out of business and was absorbed by Victorinox completely by 2014 but kept the old Wenger factory in Delemont open.

There were many more 84mm models available up in to the mid 80's when they stopped making 84mm scissors due to factory equipment issues.  To answer your question, 84mm knives, especially those with tools outside the standard openers/blades/file are very popular among collectors and users.


Hope that helps.   :cheers:

Thanks so much!
That helps quite a lot actually
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 06:35:03 PM
Hope this thread isn't too old to ask a question or two.
Mainly I'm curious about the 84mm's and I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to educate me, if even a little  :tu:

Looking at Victorinox's web site, it seems for the most part the evolution series is what currently comprises the 84mm size? I think I might also have read something about Wenger as well (?) as in, are the evolution series from a Wenger past? Most of the ones I see in this thread are older mostly discontinued models?

Anyhow, I'm hoping someone could give me just a brief history on the 84's and the evolution series or where they fit in. And, are those very popular or desireable? The Grip 14 looks like a nice little knife to me. (and sorry in advance for my ignorance of if this has all been posted before)

I'm no expert on the evolution series but I believe they are mostly Wenger-inspired with Vic filling in the gaps and switching out tools here and there. The evolution series began in 2005 around the time Wenger was going out of business and was absorbed by Victorinox completely by 2014 but kept the old Wenger factory in Delemont open.

There were many more 84mm models available up in to the mid 80's when they stopped making 84mm scissors due to factory equipment issues.  To answer your question, 84mm knives, especially those with tools outside the standard openers/blades/file are very popular among collectors and users.


Hope that helps.   :cheers:

Thanks so much!
That helps quite a lot actually

BTW the Evolution series (Ex-Wenger) are actually 85mm, it's basically the Wenger models with some tools and modification's by Vic after Wenger ended and Vic started to sell them as Vic models. Great models as well.
The 84mm are classic Vic design. Same as the 91m only a little shorter and more pocket friendly  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 06:51:37 PM
Hope this thread isn't too old to ask a question or two.
Mainly I'm curious about the 84mm's and I'm hoping some of you guys might be able to educate me, if even a little  :tu:

Looking at Victorinox's web site, it seems for the most part the evolution series is what currently comprises the 84mm size? I think I might also have read something about Wenger as well (?) as in, are the evolution series from a Wenger past? Most of the ones I see in this thread are older mostly discontinued models?

Anyhow, I'm hoping someone could give me just a brief history on the 84's and the evolution series or where they fit in. And, are those very popular or desireable? The Grip 14 looks like a nice little knife to me. (and sorry in advance for my ignorance of if this has all been posted before)

I'm no expert on the evolution series but I believe they are mostly Wenger-inspired with Vic filling in the gaps and switching out tools here and there. The evolution series began in 2005 around the time Wenger was going out of business and was absorbed by Victorinox completely by 2014 but kept the old Wenger factory in Delemont open.

There were many more 84mm models available up in to the mid 80's when they stopped making 84mm scissors due to factory equipment issues.  To answer your question, 84mm knives, especially those with tools outside the standard openers/blades/file are very popular among collectors and users.


Hope that helps.   :cheers:

Thanks so much!
That helps quite a lot actually

BTW the Evolution series (Ex-Wenger) are actually 85mm, it's basically the Wenger models with some tools and modification's by Vic after Wenger ended and Vic started to sell them as Vic models. Great models as well.
The 84mm are classic Vic design. Same as the 91m only a little shorter and more pocket friendly  :cheers:

Appreciate you guys getting me up to speed. I'd only picked up bits and pieces and honestly, I don't really read much about the evolution series on this forum so I wasn't sure how popular they were/are. Yeah, seems would be a great option if from time to time the explorer or huntsman etc feel a little heavy in pocket  :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 07:04:11 PM
Appreciate you guys getting me up to speed. I'd only picked up bits and pieces and honestly, I don't really read much about the evolution series on this forum so I wasn't sure how popular they were/are. Yeah, seems would be a great option if from time to time the explorer or huntsman etc feel a little heavy in pocket  :)


The Evolution S557 for example, is a great Sak. Here's a recent topic with pics side by side with an Explorer  :tu:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72845.0.html#_
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 07:54:36 PM
Appreciate you guys getting me up to speed. I'd only picked up bits and pieces and honestly, I don't really read much about the evolution series on this forum so I wasn't sure how popular they were/are. Yeah, seems would be a great option if from time to time the explorer or huntsman etc feel a little heavy in pocket  :)


The Evolution S557 for example, is a great Sak. Here's a recent topic with pics side by side with an Explorer  :tu:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72845.0.html#_

Nice! Though ... the reason I'm eyeing the evolution models is because of being a bit smaller/lighter. That S557 is a pretty wide beast, I think even more than my old deluxe tinker. I was thinking that 14 looks rather nice, standard blade, nail file and with scissors.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 08:19:39 PM
Appreciate you guys getting me up to speed. I'd only picked up bits and pieces and honestly, I don't really read much about the evolution series on this forum so I wasn't sure how popular they were/are. Yeah, seems would be a great option if from time to time the explorer or huntsman etc feel a little heavy in pocket  :)


The Evolution S557 for example, is a great Sak. Here's a recent topic with pics side by side with an Explorer  :tu:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,72845.0.html#_

Nice! Though ... the reason I'm eyeing the evolution models is because of being a bit smaller/lighter. That S557 is a pretty wide beast, I think even more than my old deluxe tinker. I was thinking that 14 looks rather nice, standard blade, nail file and with scissors.

Oh ok, i get it...  :tu: Yes the E14 is a great compact knife, the scales are a little chunkier than the standard Vic's but it's more ergonomic.
I have an S16 myself and like it a lot  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 08:42:42 PM


Oh ok, i get it...  :tu: Yes the E14 is a great compact knife, the scales are a little chunkier than the standard Vic's but it's more ergonomic.
I have an S16 myself and like it a lot  :cheers:

Yep, I started looking at the evolutions because of the tad smaller size and then reading about how people seem to really like the 84mm's as well. Seems owning at least one would make for a nice alternative and add to a very small but growing collection.

Also, to see if I am following this correctly, it seems Vic has pretty much stopped manufacturing the "84mm" styles and the effort is now going to the "evolution" series which is a meld of their own ideas with old Wenger models?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
Oh, and nice to hear you like the S16 MacGyver, as I'm sure you know, it's the same as the 14 except with the 90 degree phillips instead of the corkscrew. Size wise it seems like a really nice pocket carry for day to day
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 08:48:47 PM


Oh ok, i get it...  :tu: Yes the E14 is a great compact knife, the scales are a little chunkier than the standard Vic's but it's more ergonomic.
I have an S16 myself and like it a lot  :cheers:

Yep, I started looking at the evolutions because of the tad smaller size and then reading about how people seem to really like the 84mm's as well. Seems owning at least one would make for a nice alternative and add to a very small but growing collection.

Also, to see if I am following this correctly, it seems Vic has pretty much stopped manufacturing the "84mm" styles and the effort is now going to the "evolution" series which is a meld of their own ideas with old Wenger models?

Well, Vic didn't stopped manufacturing the classic 84mm's at all, there are still some models, but up to 2 layers max. and no scissors. :(

There's the Small Tinker, Tourist, Sportsman, Recruit, Bantam, Waiter, Walker, and the Alox Cadet.

My current edc's are either the Small Tinker or the Tourist. Heaven forbid they ever stop making those...  :ahhh
What they stop making where the larger 84mm models, with scissors unfortunately.
The Small Climber and Salesman (small Super Tinker) where great models, and also my ultimate dream sak's. I hope they'll make tem again someday...  :-\

The Evolutions are basically Wengers with better springs, Vic can opener, Awl and Vic Philips/Corkscrew, and Vic style toothpick and tweezers. The rest is all Wenger design.
Personally I think Vic kept way too much Wenger models, but they are good models nevertheless :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on July 12, 2017, 12:21:12 AM


Oh ok, i get it...  :tu: Yes the E14 is a great compact knife, the scales are a little chunkier than the standard Vic's but it's more ergonomic.
I have an S16 myself and like it a lot  :cheers:

Yep, I started looking at the evolutions because of the tad smaller size and then reading about how people seem to really like the 84mm's as well. Seems owning at least one would make for a nice alternative and add to a very small but growing collection.

Also, to see if I am following this correctly, it seems Vic has pretty much stopped manufacturing the "84mm" styles and the effort is now going to the "evolution" series which is a meld of their own ideas with old Wenger models?

I'm a big fan of the Wenger Traveller, which is essentially the Evo14. It's the only knife that I have multiple variations of - no, actually I have two PTCs (Evo88) too - but that aside I think it's the perfect size, with fantastic tools. Note, I carry a separate pliers tool which handles any Phillips requirements.

I would recommend getting yourself a 14 or 16 depending on whether you want corkscrew or Phillips.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 12, 2017, 12:55:38 AM


Oh ok, i get it...  :tu: Yes the E14 is a great compact knife, the scales are a little chunkier than the standard Vic's but it's more ergonomic.
I have an S16 myself and like it a lot  :cheers:

Yep, I started looking at the evolutions because of the tad smaller size and then reading about how people seem to really like the 84mm's as well. Seems owning at least one would make for a nice alternative and add to a very small but growing collection.

Also, to see if I am following this correctly, it seems Vic has pretty much stopped manufacturing the "84mm" styles and the effort is now going to the "evolution" series which is a meld of their own ideas with old Wenger models?

Well, Vic didn't stopped manufacturing the classic 84mm's at all, there are still some models, but up to 2 layers max. and no scissors. :(

There's the Small Tinker, Tourist, Sportsman, Recruit, Bantam, Waiter, Walker, and the Alox Cadet.

My current edc's are either the Small Tinker or the Tourist. Heaven forbid they ever stop making those...  :ahhh
What they stop making where the larger 84mm models, with scissors unfortunately.
The Small Climber and Salesman (small Super Tinker) where great models, and also my ultimate dream sak's. I hope they'll make tem again someday...  :-\

The Evolutions are basically Wengers with better springs, Vic can opener, Awl and Vic Philips/Corkscrew, and Vic style toothpick and tweezers. The rest is all Wenger design.
Personally I think Vic kept way too much Wenger models, but they are good models nevertheless :cheers:

I really want to thank you MacGyver, El Corkscrew and 50ft-trad as well.  :cheers:
It's really starting to come together for me now and I get a kick out of learning about the various models and variations. As El Corkscrew first pointed out and MacGyver reinforced, it's all about the scissors I suppose you could say.

I do like the Tourist and could see carrying one, however I really do want scissors for my dream SAK so I suppose I'm better off with the Evo's or the larger 91mm. (as far as buying new goes anyway).

Yep, I already have a deluxe tinker, (given to me by my grandpa so many years ago), and have ordered an explorer, a mountaineer and a huntsman which in my view are all out takes of the climber, right? I mean the huntsman is a climber with a saw, the mountaineer is a climber with a file, and the explorer is a climber with the magnifier/Phillips combo, right? (See, an old geezer like me can learn a little  :cheers:)

It's funny, for many years I carried a LM micra, got very dependent on scissors and then had it confiscated by TSA. After missing it for several years I finally started doing some research online, thus finding this forum. I did get another micra and was focusing on the LM's until I came across a rebar and realized it's just way too big for what I want and I RARELY use pliers. Lo and Behold, in the back of my drawer sat Grandpa's old deluxe tinker and now I'm hooked on SAK's!

One more question if you guys don't mind, just for curiosity. I'm assuming the Evo's scissors are all Vic, was there much of a difference between Wenger and Vic scissors on the 84 or 85mm tools? I only ask because one post I read somewhere mentioned that they thought the 84mm scissors were actually better than the 91mm versions but I don't know if they were talking about the old Vic's or Wengers. Also was it the Wengers that had serrated or self sharpening scissors?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 12, 2017, 10:16:10 AM
Great story mate  :cheers:
Glad your love and interest in sak's got back and it's growing.

So about the scissors Vic vs Wenger design:

All the scissors on the Evolution (Delemont) series are Wenger ones, meaning they are serrated on the blades and supposed to be self-sharpening because of that. Also the spring mechanism doesn't use a leaf spring like Vic but a leaver that uses the actual back spring of the tool.
Vic uses the leaf spring system, that is maybe a little less tough, but springs are easily raplaceble and cost next to nothing.
I have to say, I've yet to break or even damage a spring on a Vic scissors, one just need to use it carefully and right and they'll last ages.

Wenger scissors works best for paracord and similar materials because of the serrations,  but the Vic  works best for paper, finger nails and such.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 12, 2017, 10:31:54 AM
Great story mate  :cheers:
Glad your love and interest in sak's got back and it's growing.

So about the scissors Vic vs Wenger design:

All the scissors on the Evolution (Delemont) series are Wenger ones, meaning they are serrated on the blades and supposed to be self-sharpening because of that. Also the spring mechanism doesn't use a leaf spring like Vic but a leaver that uses the actual back spring of the tool.
Vic uses the leaf spring system, that is maybe a little less tough, but springs are easily raplaceble and cost next to nothing.
I have to say, I've yet to break or even damage a spring on a Vic scissors, one just need to use it carefully and right and they'll last ages.

Wenger scissors works best for paracord and similar materials because of the serrations,  but the Vic  works best for paper, finger nails and such.

+1 and agreed  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 12, 2017, 11:22:33 AM
Aw maann.... bloody smartphone deleted half of my original post....  :rant: i wrote a lot more stuff... :facepalm:

Anyway...

the Wenger scissors have a bit less cutting area than similar sized Vic's that have a bit longer blades. The Vic's are also a bit more beefier and thicker as a tool, Wenger ones are a little thinner.

It's really a matter of preference here, some guys love the Wenger scissors, others prefer Vic's scissors. I personally prefer Vic's scissors for general purpose edc  :tu:

These days i usually edc an alox Classic (53mm) on my keys for the scissors and nail file and a Small Tinker or Tourist for my main Sak. It's enough for my needs
 I go with all my other 91mm's when i'm off, or go to the country, hiking, etc...

If you can find a store that has many models you should check them out, try them and then decide for yourself based on your taste and needs. Nothing better than trying stuff out and holding it in your hands for the first time. On line buy is handy and practical but only when you know and handled what you are buying, IMHO anyway...  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on July 12, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
Personally, I prefer the Victorinox scissors too, but the Wenger ones are still more than acceptable.

The only downside that I've found is in trimming nails. The serrations leave a very rough finish to the nail, but the Wengers also have a nail file, so that's easily fixed. :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on July 12, 2017, 01:29:49 PM
Yep, the show stopper for me are the self sharpening scissors... never did prefer them... gotta have scissors on my SAKs... but that locking bottle opener /flat sd sure is nice...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 12, 2017, 04:10:30 PM
Still on the scissor's topic, here's a good topic about Wenger scissor's and a comparison with Vic's with some good pics on several sizes :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0

and more Vic info:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors

A great pic comparing all Vic's sizes:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=960)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 12, 2017, 08:48:44 PM
Still on the scissor's topic, here's a good topic about Wenger scissor's and a comparison with Vic's with some good pics on several sizes :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0

and more Vic info:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors

A great pic comparing all Vic's sizes:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=960)

Thanks for all the awesome info MacGyver! Can't wait to look through these threads as soon as I get a chance.
So I was wrong thinking the Evo series having Vic scissors, I should have known from the pics and as you pointed out with the leaf spring vs lever.
I will say I am very impressed with the scissors on my deluxe tinker - I didn't think they'd compare to well to the micras I'd been so used to but I was wrong. They work great and I enjoy having them handy. In fact I've been carrying the SAK this past week and leaving the micra behind. Luckily I have three kids I can pass down to ha ha.

Also I have to apologize for hijacking this thread. And then to learn that the evo series aren't even true 84mm's, jeez! I did start taking a fancy to that wood evo 14 as well, but read a review on Amazon that it was about as thick as the explorer, and I think someone also pointed out earlier that the evo scales are quite thick. So, maybe that wouldn't be downsizing at all. As you say MacGyver - nice to handle a few at a local store and yes, I have plenty around me.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 12, 2017, 09:23:18 PM
Still on the scissor's topic, here's a good topic about Wenger scissor's and a comparison with Vic's with some good pics on several sizes :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0

and more Vic info:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors

A great pic comparing all Vic's sizes:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=960)

Love all this info MacGyver! Awesome  :like:

From what I can tell, my deluxe tinker was made sometime after 1991 as it has the cup shaped spring end which rides in a groove, but still uses a screw on the pivot vs a rivet. I couldn't quite tell when Vic switched from screws to rivets - the article just seemed to mention Vic went from steel rivets to nickel-silver alloy sometime around 2007. Just love this info though, thanks so much!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 13, 2017, 12:07:55 AM
Still on the scissor's topic, here's a good topic about Wenger scissor's and a comparison with Vic's with some good pics on several sizes :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0

and more Vic info:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors

A great pic comparing all Vic's sizes:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=960)

Love all this info MacGyver! Awesome  :like:

From what I can tell, my deluxe tinker was made sometime after 1991 as it has the cup shaped spring end which rides in a groove, but still uses a screw on the pivot vs a rivet. I couldn't quite tell when Vic switched from screws to rivets - the article just seemed to mention Vic went from steel rivets to nickel-silver alloy sometime around 2007. Just love this info though, thanks so much!

You're welcome mate, glad i could help in any way  :cheers:

This forum has a world of info on tool evolution and details and lot's of great member's with lots of knowledge, much more than me, i'm sure some of the experts can shine even more light on some of those questions.

If you're interested in info on Vic's tool evolution, this topic and this site are great to learn about tool evolution by year:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,51872.0.html

http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php#scissors

And some great pictures too  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on July 13, 2017, 02:57:10 AM
Still on the scissor's topic, here's a good topic about Wenger scissor's and a comparison with Vic's with some good pics on several sizes :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=50635.0)

and more Vic info:
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Scissors)

A great pic comparing all Vic's sizes:

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=960)

Love all this info MacGyver! Awesome  :like:

From what I can tell, my deluxe tinker was made sometime after 1991 as it has the cup shaped spring end which rides in a groove, but still uses a screw on the pivot vs a rivet. I couldn't quite tell when Vic switched from screws to rivets - the article just seemed to mention Vic went from steel rivets to nickel-silver alloy sometime around 2007. Just love this info though, thanks so much!
Some info here:

http://victorinox.metodi.me/91mmtools.php


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 16, 2017, 07:37:19 PM
El Tourist
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 16, 2017, 08:21:17 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 16, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Was reading the latest here about 84mm SAKs and had a few pictures to share.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 17, 2017, 12:03:49 AM
Was reading the latest here about 84mm SAKs and had a few pictures to share.

  • The first is a comparison of the 84mm vs 91mm Golfer (I really like both)
  • The 2nd, 3rd, & 4th pictures are of an early 1970's Tinker

 :drool:   :drool:   :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 24, 2017, 06:10:37 PM
Tourists...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on July 24, 2017, 10:43:46 PM
Sportsman.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 25, 2017, 12:13:14 AM
Small Tinker as always...  :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on July 25, 2017, 09:57:37 PM
Small Tinker Too !
and Rambler for good measure :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 26, 2017, 06:17:10 PM
Sportsman.

Always a favorite...

       :like:

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on July 26, 2017, 07:33:49 PM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on July 26, 2017, 11:03:41 PM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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The Tourist was my first Swiss knife. At the time, I owned a Swisstool CS Plus, and relied upon that for the scissors. It didn't work out, and every Swiss knife I have bought since then has had scissors or been mod fodder.

I still own that Tourist, but it rarely gets carried. Why should I, when there are so many models that have scissors on board? I don't see the point of having to carry a second knife to make up for the shortsightedness in pocketing the first one which has an incomplete tool set. That makes no sense. Occasionally I will pair it with a pliers tool with scissors, but even then, it still tends to lose out on duty time to knives that have them.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 26, 2017, 11:31:49 PM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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The Tourist was my first Swiss knife. At the time, I owned a Swisstool CS Plus, and relied upon that for the scissors. It didn't work out, and every Swiss knife I have bought since then has had scissors or been mod fodder.

I still own that Tourist, but it rarely gets carried. Why should I, when there are so many models that have scissors on board? I don't see the point of having to carry a second knife to make up for the shortsightedness in pocketing the first one which has an incomplete tool set. That makes no sense. Occasionally I will pair it with a pliers tool with scissors, but even then, it still tends to lose out on duty time to knives that have them.

Well said 50ft-trad. I am in complete agreement on the necessity of scissors.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 27, 2017, 12:21:32 AM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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I carry the small tinker/tourist 90% of the time these days, and i've always carried a alox classic sd on my keys. I carry the classic not only for the scissors but also for the nail file, as i like to keep it separate from my main sak use. Since i'm not really a very die hard fan of the scissors or think they are so irreplaceable that a good blade can't do at least 90% of it's job, the size of the classic scissors is enough for nearly all my regular edc tasks.

I do occasionally carry 91mm's, with scissors, but not that often these days. I've decided the 91's are just too big and bulky for most of my edc needs and pocket size carry. Why should i carry a Spartan or Tinker if i have the exact same sak in a shorter, more pocket friendly package that suits most of my needs?
84mm is my perfect sak size, i'll endure the lack of scissors in the current models with the help of my classic.

If Vic ever brings back the 84mm scissors models i'll be the first in line to buy them (all...  :D)
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 02:13:00 AM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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I carry the small tinker/tourist 90% of the time these days, and i've always carried a alox classic sd on my keys. I carry the classic not only for the scissors but also for the nail file, as i like to keep it separate from my main sak use. Since i'm not really a very die hard fan of the scissors or think they are so irreplaceable that a good blade can't do at least 90% of it's job, the size of the classic scissors is enough for nearly all my regular edc tasks.

I do occasionally carry 91mm's, with scissors, but not that often these days. I've decided the 91's are just too big and bulky for most of my edc needs and pocket size carry. Why should i carry a Spartan or Tinker if i have the exact same sak in a shorter, more pocket friendly package that suits most of my needs?
84mm is my perfect sak size, i'll endure the lack of scissors in the current models with the help of my classic.

If Vic ever brings back the 84mm scissors models i'll be the first in line to buy them (all...  :D)
 :cheers:

Boy you guys all make my head spin  :D

I guess as it's always been and probably always will there's just no perfect edc. I agree though MacGyver, the 84mm size certainly is nice. I kind of like the looks of the small tinker tourist, (I much prefer the corkscrew to the phillips on the back of SAKs) but ... I'd prefer the hook to the awl (though I do like the awl and have used them before).
I will say, after getting my compact yesterday I'm starting to become a fan of the multi tool for the bottle and can opener. I just don't come across many capped bottles these days nor do I often need to open a tin can away from my kitchen. I did however get accustomed to carrying scissors back when I only carried my LM Micra. I never thought it could be possible but I do like the actual cutting ability of the 91mm SAK scissors, (though the bigger grips on the micra allows you to power through more stuff). I just find the classic scissors so so tiny but maybe they are enough.
So, yeah, maybe I am agreeing about having 84mm scissors, ha ha  :gimme:

EDIT: I meant to say I like the looks of the tourist, with the corkscrew rather than the phillips
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 27, 2017, 02:15:00 AM
For those of you who EDC the Tourist, how do you handle the lack of scissors? 

Carry a Classic or similar?

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The Tourist was my first Swiss knife. At the time, I owned a Swisstool CS Plus, and relied upon that for the scissors. It didn't work out, and every Swiss knife I have bought since then has had scissors or been mod fodder.

I still own that Tourist, but it rarely gets carried. Why should I, when there are so many models that have scissors on board? I don't see the point of having to carry a second knife to make up for the shortsightedness in pocketing the first one which has an incomplete tool set. That makes no sense. Occasionally I will pair it with a pliers tool with scissors, but even then, it still tends to lose out on duty time to knives that have them.

Well said 50ft-trad. I am in complete agreement on the necessity of scissors.

Edited:
+1 to scissors...though I have no use for the Tourist model...never worked for me.   :drink:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 03:39:19 AM
So I was just looking over Victorinox web site again and wondering what is the difference between the Sportsman and the evolotuion 10? I know the evo 10 probably has some design layovers from Wenger but it sure seems like a big degree of overlap to me.
Well, besides to sculptured scales and 1mm difference in length.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 27, 2017, 04:28:05 AM
So I was just looking over Victorinox web site again and wondering what is the difference between the Sportsman and the evolotuion 10? I know the evo 10 probably has some design layovers from Wenger but it sure seems like a big degree of overlap to me.
Well, besides to sculptured scales and 1mm difference in length.

Now there isn't much difference (yes, 1mm larger overall; the scissor design is Wenger, not Vic; and scales are "sculptured") between the old Vic 84mm line vs the current Delemont 85mm line. It's been my belief that the Vic 84mm line will eventually disappear to eliminate the overlap you discuss. I'd be okay with this change as long as they also supply flat scales as replacements for the 85mm line.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 05:36:55 AM

Now there isn't much difference (yes, 1mm larger overall; the scissor design is Wenger, not Vic; and scales are "sculptured") between the old Vic 84mm line vs the current Delemont 85mm line. It's been my belief that the Vic 84mm line will eventually disappear to eliminate the overlap you discuss. I'd be okay with this change as long as they also supply flat scales as replacements for the 85mm line.

Yep, flat scales would be nice. I wonder though as they do already have 3 different versions of the scales, (and all are sculptured).
I will say I got my evo wood 14 yesterday and am really happy with the tool set so far. I haven't edc'd it yet, (maybe tomorrow), and haven't given the scissors much of a try but size wise they look okay. I THINK I will like the nail file instead of the small blade but not sure about that yet. On my 91's I do enjoy using the small blade for box opening. Oh, and might miss the tooth pick and tweasers but it's really nice.
So far my 3 favorites (not in any order) are the evo wood 14, the compact and the climber.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 27, 2017, 09:53:26 AM
So I was just looking over Victorinox web site again and wondering what is the difference between the Sportsman and the evolotuion 10? I know the evo 10 probably has some design layovers from Wenger but it sure seems like a big degree of overlap to me.
Well, besides to sculptured scales and 1mm difference in length.

Now there isn't much difference (yes, 1mm larger overall; the scissor design is Wenger, not Vic; and scales are "sculptured") between the old Vic 84mm line vs the current Delemont 85mm line. It's been my belief that the Vic 84mm line will eventually disappear to eliminate the overlap you discuss. I'd be okay with this change as long as they also supply flat scales as replacements for the 85mm line.

Well... This goes to show that everybody has different tastes, needs and preferences.
I wouldn't trade the 84mm for the 85mm Evo series in a million years. While the Evo series is good, and I actually have an Evo s16, I really don't edc it much. I much prefer vic's design, flat scales, small blade, scissors, bottle opener.
I would gladly trade, today, the return of the small climber, salesman and golfer with the entire 85mm evo series. Not to mention the considerable difference in cost between equivalent models on both lines....  :pok:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on July 27, 2017, 12:35:11 PM
Thanks for the replies.  For me, several items are must have on whatever SAK(s) I carry.  I must have scissors, toothpick and two blades.  That's why my Executive has been my EDC since I am remember.

I got caught up in the hype of the Compact and Climber, but I'm now convinced that anything larger than the 84mm is just not for me.  Thus, my new Tourist, obviously, without scissors.

I want to start carrying the Tourist, however, I'll need to keep my Executive or my Classic or Rambler for the scissors.


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 02:25:26 PM
The Sportsman is very similar too huh? If I preferred the nail file over a second blade.
Wonder what would be ideal for 84mm and 2 layers? I'm still not convinced a bottle and can opener are needed for me, how about a sportsmen with scissors in place of them? Or small scissors and combo tool (like on the compact).
Oh no, I can see I'm slipping down the road of wishing for more, more, more!! :gimme:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on July 27, 2017, 03:14:10 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh
Love my Executives.  The best nail file Victorinox makes.  The orange peeler does well opening clam shell packages.

If I could only own one, the Executive would be it.

Sorry, I don't want to take this thread off-topic.

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 27, 2017, 04:21:02 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh

Sorryy....   
:whistle:

The Executive is the only Sak i bought exclusively because of Macgyver i must admit...  :facepalm:
It is a great SAK, way bigger than the classic. I carried it for a while as the only Sak, but the lack of the opening layer and good drivers made me decide that it was not for me, and went back to my 84's. Gave the Executive to my wife, it's perfect for her  :salute:

If you are trying to settle on a more permanent model for regular edc you need to decide what you really need or want in a sak, and what will you be using it for most of the time. I can't get by with a sak without the opening layer and screwdrivers, as apart from cutting task's i'm a natural born tinkerer, always taking stuff apart, fixing stuff, modding,etc...
That opening layer is crucial to me, not because i need to open cans or pop a lot of bottle caps with it, i probably opened one (max. two) cans with a sak  and popped a dozen bottle caps or so in 30 years of owning and using sak's. The bottle opener is my main screwdriver/bit driver, prybar, push bar and the can opener is also a great SD, finer prybar, scraper, hook-like tool, box opener, etc...
The awl is also essential to me, as is the small blade. All of this even more than any full sized scissors. I'd rather have the 84mm/classic combo than a 91mm with scissors all the time.

As for the Sportsman, it is a great sak and i have one, but hardly use it because like i've said before i don't want to loose the small blade and i like to keep nail files and similar separate from my main Sak. And on the Sportsman the file if facing the main blade and scratches it when ever it's deployed, and i hate that....  :twak:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on July 27, 2017, 04:39:33 PM
To balance the discussion, I never got along with the 74mm line. I recently picked up a used Executive from the MTO store with a view to revisiting and reappraising it, and possibly putting some fance homemade scales on. Since I've got it, I'm remembering why I got rid of my Director, and wondering if it's really worth doing any work to it, as I'm not sure it'll ever get pocket time.

The 65mm line is the largest I would want on keys, the 84mm line is the smallest I would want in the pocket. The 74mm is in a nowhere land. I might possibly wear it in a waistcoat pocket at a formal event if I put some fancy scales on, but otherwise it a solution looking for a problem.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh
Love my Executives.  The best nail file Victorinox makes.  The orange peeler does well opening clam shell packages.

If I could only own one, the Executive would be it.

Sorry, I don't want to take this thread off-topic.

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I fear I'm the one who took this thread off topic long ago, sorry!
 :oops:
I have to ask though, the orange peeler then does have a sharp edge? It's hard to tell from photos. Opening clam shells would be a great use though a small blade also works very well for that I've found.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh

Sorryy....   
:whistle:

The Executive is the only Sak i bought exclusively because of Macgyver i must admit...  :facepalm:
It is a great SAK, way bigger than the classic. I carried it for a while as the only Sak, but the lack of the opening layer and good drivers made me decide that it was not for me, and went back to my 84's. Gave the Executive to my wife, it's perfect for her  :salute:

If you are trying to settle on a more permanent model for regular edc you need to decide what you really need or want in a sak, and what will you be using it for most of the time. I can't get by with a sak without the opening layer and screwdrivers, as apart from cutting task's i'm a natural born tinkerer, always taking stuff apart, fixing stuff, modding,etc...
That opening layer is crucial to me, not because i need to open cans or pop a lot of bottle caps with it, i probably opened one (max. two) cans with a sak  and popped a dozen bottle caps or so in 30 years of owning and using sak's. The bottle opener is my main screwdriver/bit driver, prybar, push bar and the can opener is also a great SD, finer prybar, scraper, hook-like tool, box opener, etc...
The awl is also essential to me, as is the small blade. All of this even more than any full sized scissors. I'd rather have the 84mm/classic combo than a 91mm with scissors all the time.

As for the Sportsman, it is a great sak and i have one, but hardly use it because like i've said before i don't want to loose the small blade and i like to keep nail files and similar separate from my main Sak. And on the Sportsman the file if facing the main blade and scratches it when ever it's deployed, and i hate that....  :twak:

Great input MacGyver.
I'd been trying to avoid this but I might just have to go for another few purchases just to see for myself  :whistle:
I don't think any multi tool will be perfect, especially for everyone and so the best will probably be whatever you happen to be carrying that day. But now I'm starting to get hooked trying the different ones, looking at them sitting on my counter, ha ha. Luckily it's not as expensive as a hobby as collecting say cars, or motorcycles or something!
That would be aggravating with the sportsman if it scratches the main blade, though the tool set intrigues me. Yeah, I like looking through the threads at some of the older tools, and like you say, the scissors versions of the 84mm seem like they'd be pretty nice!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 27, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh
Love my Executives.  The best nail file Victorinox makes.  The orange peeler does well opening clam shell packages.

If I could only own one, the Executive would be it.

Sorry, I don't want to take this thread off-topic.

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I fear I'm the one who took this thread off topic long ago, sorry!
 :oops:
I have to ask though, the orange peeler then does have a sharp edge? It's hard to tell from photos. Opening clam shells would be a great use though a small blade also works very well for that I've found.

Oh yeah, the orange peeler is bloody sharp, almost as sharp as a regular serrated blade. Sharp enough to easily draw blood in one is not careful...  :ahhh
I used to cut my cuticles on my fingers with it sometimes, and cut myself one or two times with it  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on July 27, 2017, 07:22:14 PM
Dang you this-is-nascar and MacGuyver! :twak:

Just when I thought I was pretty satisfied with my SAK collection. Now you've got me looking at that executive, what? 2 blades and a nail file? Not sure what that orange peeler is about, maybe like the magical hook in that you can find uses for it?  ;)
I do like having a bit less weight and smaller size, but curious just how much bigger an executive is compared to a classic (which is a bit to small for me as my only edc). Again, tourist has no scissors, argh... ha ha  :ahhh
Love my Executives.  The best nail file Victorinox makes.  The orange peeler does well opening clam shell packages.

If I could only own one, the Executive would be it.

Sorry, I don't want to take this thread off-topic.

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I fear I'm the one who took this thread off topic long ago, sorry!
 :oops:
I have to ask though, the orange peeler then does have a sharp edge? It's hard to tell from photos. Opening clam shells would be a great use though a small blade also works very well for that I've found.

Oh yeah, the orange peeler is bloody sharp, almost as sharp as a regular serrated blade. Sharp enough to easily draw blood in one is not careful...  :ahhh
I used to cut my cuticles on my fingers with it sometimes, and cut myself one or two times with it  :facepalm:

      :ahhh

That's right up there with the Cuticle Pusher found on the MiniChamp...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on July 27, 2017, 08:22:42 PM
Yep, it's plenty sharp, especially at the corner.

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 27, 2017, 11:33:14 PM
Well that makes it sound like it actually could be useful. I love the idea of opening blister packs, that would be handy if it worked well. Might have to try one of these.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: mtngoat on July 28, 2017, 01:07:39 AM
Lumberjack lately
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/470711a450a41b7390a5de8fd92d5959.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 28, 2017, 02:02:58 AM
^^^^^^  Nice! Love those nylon scales too!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 28, 2017, 02:29:05 AM
Lumberjack lately
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/470711a450a41b7390a5de8fd92d5959.jpg)

 :like: :like:

I'm getting ready to have a Lumbergolfer....  or a Golferjack.   Can't wait  ::)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on July 28, 2017, 12:58:54 PM
I was thinking about my walker, coincidence ☺️.
I'm not a fun of combo tool, but I realized that it's the best solution for this knife and what it's made for: a walk. Maybe  the Vic with the most correct name.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on July 28, 2017, 09:37:30 PM
The Walker's a nice little tool. It's the only SAK I saw fit to buy two at once of.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on July 28, 2017, 10:27:57 PM
 :cheers: well done!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 29, 2017, 12:00:27 AM
I was thinking about my walker, coincidence ☺️.
I'm not a fun of combo tool, but I realized that it's the best solution for this knife and what it's made for: a walk. Maybe  the Vic with the most correct name.

The Walker is a cool sak, but what's beyond me is why they chosen that tool set instead of making an 84mm Camper or/and Hiker, that would be way cooler IMO, and they had all the parts readily available, not the case unfortunately for scissors models... :-\
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 29, 2017, 01:23:18 PM
I was thinking about my walker, coincidence ☺️.
I'm not a fun of combo tool, but I realized that it's the best solution for this knife and what it's made for: a walk. Maybe  the Vic with the most correct name.

The Walker is a cool sak, but what's beyond me is why they chosen that tool set instead of making an 84mm Camper or/and Hiker, that would be way cooler IMO, and they had all the parts readily available, not the case unfortunately for scissors models... :-\

Right? or at least hook a brutha up with some back layer tools?  :think:

I've commissioned one of our members to add the wood saw to an 84mm Golfer.    Can't wait.  ::)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on July 29, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
I was thinking about my walker, coincidence ☺️.
I'm not a fun of combo tool, but I realized that it's the best solution for this knife and what it's made for: a walk. Maybe  the Vic with the most correct name.

The Walker is a cool sak, but what's beyond me is why they chosen that tool set instead of making an 84mm Camper or/and Hiker, that would be way cooler IMO, and they had all the parts readily available, not the case unfortunately for scissors models... :-\

Right? or at least hook a brutha up with some back layer tools?  :think:

I've commissioned one of our members to add the wood saw to an 84mm Golfer.    Can't wait.  ::)

Yesh that would be cooler too, since it's a saw they could have put a back fine SD and a corkscrew/philips  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: theonew on July 29, 2017, 07:01:32 PM
I agree but cost may be an issue. I picked up a Walker for $17 new. But I imagine that labor is the highest cost component in the making of a SAK and can't really see how using a different spring and adding a corkscrew and back layer fine SD would add much to the labor cost :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: GoatDragon on July 29, 2017, 08:10:41 PM
There would be a small weight increase when adding back later tools. Ye olde SAKWiki states that there is a 3.56g difference in weight between a Recruit (48.4g) and a Tourist (51.96g). Perhaps they are marketing to ultralight walkers.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on July 31, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
Really loving my Tourist, with the new black scales.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170731/91857049032b7c923b61d6031afbef83.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170731/e6a501ff3895015e2ca6b75b47c707e2.jpg)

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 31, 2017, 06:38:34 PM
Really loving my Tourist, with the new black scales.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170731/91857049032b7c923b61d6031afbef83.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170731/e6a501ff3895015e2ca6b75b47c707e2.jpg)

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Gorgeous!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sneider on July 31, 2017, 10:55:13 PM
A popular looks at his future home...

(https://up.picr.de/29957775cs.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on August 01, 2017, 12:38:35 AM
A popular looks at his future home...

(https://up.picr.de/29957775cs.jpg)

I'm looking forward to seeing his new home as it gets completed!   :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 01, 2017, 05:33:31 PM
A popular looks at his future home...

(https://up.picr.de/29957775cs.jpg)

Haven't seen one with a bail!  :tu: :like:

El Tinkerito is with me today.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 02, 2017, 11:15:10 AM
 :drink:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 07, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
 :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: an0nemus on August 13, 2017, 05:22:59 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 13, 2017, 06:31:48 AM
i think each knife is different. 84mm Waiters are light but have wicked snap.  Depends on era/wear/oil/cleanliness/factory magic  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: an0nemus on August 13, 2017, 06:50:33 AM
i think each knife is different. 84mm Waiters are light but have wicked snap.  Depends on era/wear/oil/cleanliness/factory magic  :D
Makes sense. It means I have to get more 84mms hehe :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on August 13, 2017, 06:28:38 PM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:



Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: an0nemus on August 13, 2017, 06:46:43 PM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 14, 2017, 12:41:50 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:

Humm...I see what you mean, but i disagree with you on some points...

First, it's not really a fair comparison between the 84mm recruit and the 91mm spartan (or other) for example. The lack of back tools will always give you the illusion of the 84mm being less sturdy (and more hollow like), not to mention the noticeable difference in weight between both.
You need to compare a Spartan with a Tourist (or Sportsman) or a Tinker with a Small Tinker, and you'll see the 84mm owes nothing to the 91mm.
There is also absolutely no difference in tool thickness between 84mm and 91mm, they are exactly the same thickness  and a Tourist is exactly the same thickness as a Spartan overall.  Same tools, same tool strength, same built. The only difference between a Tourist and a Spartan for example, is that the Tourist is just 7mm shorter length wise, and around 2mm (give or take) narrower in with with all tools slightly shorter and narrower accordingly.

I personally even think the 84mm's are more tight and compact than the 91mm's because the tools are not much shorter than on the 91mm's, there for they have a bit less empty space between them, and are closer together than on the 91mm's.

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: an0nemus on August 14, 2017, 12:48:31 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:

Humm...I see what you mean, but i disagree with you on some points...

First, it's not really a fair comparison between the 84mm recruit and the 91mm spartan (or other) for example. The lack of back tools will always give you the illusion of the 84mm being less sturdy (and more hollow like), not to mention the noticeable difference in weight between both.
You need to compare a Spartan with a Tourist (or Sportsman) or a Tinker with a Small Tinker, and you'll see the 84mm owes nothing to the 91mm.
There is also absolutely no difference in tool thickness between 84mm and 91mm, they are exactly the same thickness  and a Tourist is exactly the same thickness as a Spartan overall.  Same tools, same tool strength, same built. The only difference between a Tourist and a Spartan for example, is that the Tourist is just 7mm shorter length wise, and around 3mm give or take narrower in with with all tools slightly shorter and narrower accordingly.

I personally even think the 84mm's are more tight and compact than the 91mm's because the tools are not much shorter than on the 91mm's, there for they have a bit less empty space between them, and are closer together than on the 91mm's.

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:


All your points make perfect, and I suspect the difference I feel is just imaginary, or an illusion, as everything is based on impression especially since I haven't used either or both for any medium to heavy use. Thats why I appreciate forum like this as I get valuable insights from co-members. thanks!  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 14, 2017, 12:51:03 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:

Humm...I see what you mean, but i disagree with you on some points...

First, it's not really a fair comparison between the 84mm recruit and the 91mm spartan (or other) for example. The lack of back tools will always give you the illusion of the 84mm being less sturdy (and more hollow like), not to mention the noticeable difference in weight between both.
You need to compare a Spartan with a Tourist (or Sportsman) or a Tinker with a Small Tinker, and you'll see the 84mm owes nothing to the 91mm.
There is also absolutely no difference in tool thickness between 84mm and 91mm, they are exactly the same thickness  and a Tourist is exactly the same thickness as a Spartan overall.  Same tools, same tool strength, same built. The only difference between a Tourist and a Spartan for example, is that the Tourist is just 7mm shorter length wise, and around 2mm (give or take) narrower in with with all tools slightly shorter and narrower accordingly.

I personally even think the 84mm's are more tight and compact than the 91mm's because the tools are not much shorter than on the 91mm's, there for they have a bit less empty space between them, and are closer together than on the 91mm's.

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

hm um plus scales cough.   :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: an0nemus on August 14, 2017, 12:57:21 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:

Humm...I see what you mean, but i disagree with you on some points...

First, it's not really a fair comparison between the 84mm recruit and the 91mm spartan (or other) for example. The lack of back tools will always give you the illusion of the 84mm being less sturdy (and more hollow like), not to mention the noticeable difference in weight between both.
You need to compare a Spartan with a Tourist (or Sportsman) or a Tinker with a Small Tinker, and you'll see the 84mm owes nothing to the 91mm.
There is also absolutely no difference in tool thickness between 84mm and 91mm, they are exactly the same thickness  and a Tourist is exactly the same thickness as a Spartan overall.  Same tools, same tool strength, same built. The only difference between a Tourist and a Spartan for example, is that the Tourist is just 7mm shorter length wise, and around 2mm (give or take) narrower in with with all tools slightly shorter and narrower accordingly.

I personally even think the 84mm's are more tight and compact than the 91mm's because the tools are not much shorter than on the 91mm's, there for they have a bit less empty space between them, and are closer together than on the 91mm's.

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

hm um plus scales cough.   :D


there is no 84mm plus scales?  ???
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 14, 2017, 01:02:32 AM
First time for me to own an 84mm SAK. I have a nylon Recruit. Comparing it with my cellidor Spartan, it feels less solid. The snaps, the heft, the overall impression. Am I just imagining things?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/a94ac84b0f5dfb7ce45add74419a75fd.jpg)

84's do feel like less in your hand than a 91 or 93, no doubt about it. Snap-wise, I'm not sure I agree though snap is a function of many things as eLC pointed out. I do trust my 84's to do most anything my 91's will do...it's just a smaller package which is desirable to some...not so desirable to others. I have 84's/91's/93's in my EDC rotation and enjoy the heck out of them.  I really like the Recruit and am modding a 91mm Recruit from leftover parts just for fun.  :cheers:


Might just be the case of my particular 84mm and 91mm SAKs. I just feel more confident in the later, like it feels more robust. Its like I can do more with the 91mm seemingly thicker steel.

But I really like how well the 84mm fits perfectly into my jeans' coin/knife pocket  :like:

Humm...I see what you mean, but i disagree with you on some points...

First, it's not really a fair comparison between the 84mm recruit and the 91mm spartan (or other) for example. The lack of back tools will always give you the illusion of the 84mm being less sturdy (and more hollow like), not to mention the noticeable difference in weight between both.
You need to compare a Spartan with a Tourist (or Sportsman) or a Tinker with a Small Tinker, and you'll see the 84mm owes nothing to the 91mm.
There is also absolutely no difference in tool thickness between 84mm and 91mm, they are exactly the same thickness  and a Tourist is exactly the same thickness as a Spartan overall.  Same tools, same tool strength, same built. The only difference between a Tourist and a Spartan for example, is that the Tourist is just 7mm shorter length wise, and around 2mm (give or take) narrower in with with all tools slightly shorter and narrower accordingly.

I personally even think the 84mm's are more tight and compact than the 91mm's because the tools are not much shorter than on the 91mm's, there for they have a bit less empty space between them, and are closer together than on the 91mm's.

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

hm um plus scales cough.   :D

LOL, not even remotely important enough for me to choose a 91mm over an 84mm...  :pok:  :D
The only thing Plus scales adds is a pen, and for me while is may come in handy if you happen to have it, is in no way critical or even that important. I can´t really remember when was the last time i had to actually  hand write something on paper, especially with no pen around. To take some notes i'll use the smartphone...  :cheers:

And BTW if one really needs to that tiny little pen there is lots of other ways to carry other than being physically on the Sak :pok:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 14, 2017, 01:19:05 AM
Just pointing out another difference. I find your loyalty to the 84mm admirable.  I like them awl.  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Faddy Daddy on August 14, 2017, 02:25:55 AM

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

Well, I'd certainly be the last guy to pile on but your overlooking probably the most important thing of all!
Who would want to carry a little tourist when you could carry a SPARTAN!
The name says it all me thinks  :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 14, 2017, 02:47:19 AM

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

Well, I'd certainly be the last guy to pile on but your overlooking probably the most important thing of all!
Who would want to carry a little tourist when you could carry a SPARTAN!
The name says it all me thinks  :rofl:

2 words

Skinny Jeans    :rofl:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 14, 2017, 09:57:07 AM

This is just my opinion of course, your's may differ. But for me is a bit like: "Why should i carry for regular edc a 91mm Spartan when i can carry a 84mm Tourist being the only difference between them is just 7mm less in lenght?"  :cheers:

Well, I'd certainly be the last guy to pile on but your overlooking probably the most important thing of all!
Who would want to carry a little tourist when you could carry a SPARTAN!
The name says it all me thinks  :rofl:

2 words

Skinny Jeans    :rofl:

 :rofl: :rofl:

Well, it's not really any special loyalty to the 84mm's, to me its just more practical, more compact, and more than enough (size and function) for my everyday needs. And 84's just look a bit cooler to me than the 91's, I was always into small portable stuff, so to me the smaller the better as long as funtionality and sturdiness is not compromised for what I need.
I still love all my 91's, just not for regular urban edc anymore. The 84's is what a "pocket knife" size should be :D
Oh and of course as far as paranoid scaredy "sheep" goes I guess the 84's are maybe a bit less intimidating  ::)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 14, 2017, 05:27:33 PM
Sounding pretty loyal to me  :pok:

There are many couples who would kill for that kind of faith and fidelity.   :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sneider on August 14, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
A few black Excelsiors...

(https://up.picr.de/30082707uv.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on August 14, 2017, 08:59:34 PM
 :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 14, 2017, 10:02:12 PM
 :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 15, 2017, 07:08:59 PM
El Hofferito Tinker  (71-73?  :think:)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on August 15, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
El Hofferito Tinker  (71-73?  :think:)

 :like: Nice square driver there
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on August 15, 2017, 09:30:20 PM
Some Small Tinker time with Spirit today
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 21, 2017, 02:28:21 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 21, 2017, 05:26:51 PM
 :like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 21, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 21, 2017, 07:51:11 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 21, 2017, 07:53:51 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 21, 2017, 07:55:49 PM
 :hatsoff: 

I dig it.  Just afraid my Spartans will now be victims of neglect.  :'(
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 21, 2017, 07:59:01 PM
:hatsoff: 

I dig it.  Just afraid my Spartans will now be victims of neglect.  :'(

Ahh don't worry mate, they'll get over it.... My small Tinkers feel the same...  :ahhh  I've been more inclined to the corkscrew models these days namely the Tourist, don't know why...  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 21, 2017, 08:15:16 PM
:hatsoff: 

I dig it.  Just afraid my Spartans will now be victims of neglect.  :'(

Ahh don't worry mate, they'll get over it.... My small Tinkers feel the same...  :ahhh  I've been more inclined to the corkscrew models these days namely the Tourist, don't know why...  :think:

You have my support on that notion :D :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 21, 2017, 08:16:30 PM
Could you imagine opening a bottle of wine with an inline corkscrew?!   :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 21, 2017, 08:22:04 PM
:hatsoff: 

I dig it.  Just afraid my Spartans will now be victims of neglect.  :'(

Ahh don't worry mate, they'll get over it.... My small Tinkers feel the same...  :ahhh  I've been more inclined to the corkscrew models these days namely the Tourist, don't know why...  :think:

You have my support on that notion :D :cheers:

I figured i would...  >:D
I must get a backup (or two) for the current Tourist one of these days, only have another one that's from 2006, but i like the half stop on the newer ones better.

Could you imagine opening a bottle of wine with an inline corkscrew?!   :ahhh

Humm... that would be pretty weird... and hard...  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on August 22, 2017, 02:32:16 AM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:

Very doable in the 84mm world if you take your time and look around enough.  I have 2 Tourists that have company logos on their front scales while the back scale is blank (these are red).  They're were in great shape so I bought them for parts as I'm not attached to this model at all (I'm a Golfer, Tinker,  84mm scissor and clip point small blade fan).

I also have a couple of Bantams and Waiters that have promo scales, where the front scales are blank and the back scales have the Vx logo inlay (got these new, in boxes; one of each in green scales and one of each in white scales). I've also purchased other 84's where the Vx logo inlay is on the back scale.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 22, 2017, 10:01:50 AM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:

Very doable in the 84mm world if you take your time and look around enough.  I have 2 Tourists that have company logos on their front scales while the back scale is blank (these are red).  They're were in great shape so I bought them for parts as I'm not attached to this model at all (I'm a Golfer, Tinker,  84mm scissor and clip point small blade fan).

I also have a couple of Bantams and Waiters that have promo scales, where the front scales are blank and the back scales have the Vx logo inlay (got these new, in boxes; one of each in green scales and one of each in white scales). I've also purchased other 84's where the Vx logo inlay is on the back scale.

I guess if i looked around for used ones, esp older models it would be relatively easy to find a ref back scale with shield, but I was thinking in getting a brand new scale as I'm not really a fan of recycling scales on a new sak, once you take it off, I will never be the same as it was new.
I'll ask next time  go to the dealer but those are probably not sold like the regular ones and only used at Vic for advert models.

But that's not really important, just a bit of fun. A reissued small climber or salesman on the other hand would be serious fun.....  :drool:
I think I've mentioned that before, somewhere....  :think:       :angel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 22, 2017, 09:18:30 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:

Had to..

Switched the front scale on an ad Waiter I had in the kitchen drawer.  He said he wouldn't mind...

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 22, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:

Had to..

Switched the front scale on an ad Waiter I had in the kitchen drawer.  He said he wouldn't mind...

Can't believe you've put my idea in practice mate, that looks way cool...  :drool:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 22, 2017, 09:32:03 PM
:like: :like:  Nice, Mac!

I finally got a Tourist with T&T  :tu: 

Pairs nicely with El Midnite Manager

Niiiiice...  :D  :like:
Does is have any ad on the front scale?

Cool  :like:

One of these days i would like to find a back scale with the cross and make one with front and back scale with the shield... that would look cool and different... :think:

Had to..

Switched the front scale on an ad Waiter I had in the kitchen drawer.  He said he wouldn't mind...

Can't believe you've put my idea in practice mate, that looks way cool...  :drool:

 :cheers:

Now I just need to polish the back scale so it matches the front.

I had also done this for a double cross Tuxedo Spartan.   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mechanickal on August 22, 2017, 10:21:21 PM
Aaah so this is where El C takes his inspiration :angel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 22, 2017, 10:31:40 PM
That's a little better, a little sand/polish on the back scale and just the headlight stuff on the front since it was in pretty good shape
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 22, 2017, 10:45:12 PM
Heres a few more of El Tuxedo Spartans.  One Plain, one Doppelkreis  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 22, 2017, 11:54:54 PM
Heres a few more of El Tuxedo Spartans.  One Plain, one Doppelkreis  :D

Nice...  :drool:   :drool:  :like:
 
I've got to make me one of those to match my Gilmour "tuxedo" black strat...  :ahhh  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 23, 2017, 12:53:27 AM
Heres a few more of El Tuxedo Spartans.  One Plain, one Doppelkreis  :D

Nice...  :drool:   :drool:  :like:
 
I've got to make me one of those to match my Gilmour "tuxedo" black strat...  :ahhh  :D


Did I know you played?  That's awesome. I'm a huge Floyd fan.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 23, 2017, 09:47:32 AM
Heres a few more of El Tuxedo Spartans.  One Plain, one Doppelkreis  :D

Nice...  :drool:   :drool:  :like:
 
I've got to make me one of those to match my Gilmour "tuxedo" black strat...  :ahhh  :D


Did I know you played?  That's awesome. I'm a huge Floyd fan.  :cheers:

Humm... I think you did...  :think: Even posted a pic of my home studio on the "latest sak" topic a couple of days ago i think.

Yep, huge long time Floyd fan here  :salute:
Gilmour was the responsable for me starting to play guitar in the first place, him and Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits)  :salute:
Started out on keyboards and later on guitars, now I play equally both, as well as bass, harmonica, accordion and a bit of drums and mandolin  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 28, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
 :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 29, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
Well... after all this time, i've just noticed something on the Vic catalog...  :facepalm:

One can still get a 84mm without the keyring.... more specifically the Sportsman. I've never even noticed this before, and would preferd this option was available for the Tourist or the Small Tinker as i'm not really a huge fan of the Sportsman, but hey... it's better than nothing...  :D

Now i'll just have to buy one or three Sportsman without the keyring... :ahhh :ahhh :facepalm:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on August 29, 2017, 05:04:20 PM
Ah, the Tourist.  Quickly becoming one of my all time favorites.

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 29, 2017, 11:09:17 PM
My latest SAK/84mm  Vintage Tinker Small  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 30, 2017, 12:18:30 AM
My latest SAK/84mm  Vintage Tinker Small  :tu:

Nice one mate  :drool:  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on August 30, 2017, 03:21:37 AM
Very nice!  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: captain spaulding on August 30, 2017, 06:11:52 AM
Been carrying my 84mm Electrician once a week or so and really like it!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on August 30, 2017, 12:07:38 PM
Loving this Tourist.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/bd0c39d619ef46e450fc2c6d96cb28f6.jpg)

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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on August 30, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
+1000  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on August 30, 2017, 11:07:21 PM
Loving this Tourist.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/bd0c39d619ef46e450fc2c6d96cb28f6.jpg)

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And who can blame you - very nice  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on August 30, 2017, 11:08:22 PM
Been carrying my 84mm Electrician once a week or so and really like it!

That's the Spirit... no, wait ....erm  :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: m47mu74nt on September 03, 2017, 11:45:40 AM
I do think this Elinox Gourmet will be my new signature for a while :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: strmliner on September 03, 2017, 09:29:47 PM
I do think this Elinox Gourmet will be my new signature for a while :)

Nice!   :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 11, 2017, 09:59:38 AM
Salesman and Huntsman small otw
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Zed on September 16, 2017, 02:23:56 AM
Salesman and Huntsman small otw

I think the salesman would be my perfect daily edc  :drool: it's like a mini version of my super tinker other than the file on the Phillips  :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 25, 2017, 05:13:50 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mechanickal on September 25, 2017, 05:21:04 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:
Got an Evogrip 18 last saturday which has alot of tools in common with your Golferjack here. Even the size is quite close.

Edit: not that much in common... just scissors and saw in a -91mm platform...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 25, 2017, 06:20:53 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:
Got an Evogrip 18 last saturday which has alot of tools in common with your Golferjack here. Even the size is quite close.

Edit: not that much in common... just scissors and saw in a -91mm platform...

has to be something with the size. Even when there was the Wenger version of the Waiter with Vic tools they still used the 84mm blade and combo tool.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on September 25, 2017, 06:36:50 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I somehow find it hard to believe Vic's reason, today, for not bringing back the 84mm scissors to be the broken machine excuse...  ??? If every part is made from the specific stamping mold and if the machines are multitasking (one machine makes different tools) it would just be tha case to create a new stamping mold for the scissors and corresponding back spring...  :think:

I really thing that the case here is: they just don't care, or want to bother with it  >:(  Since they have the 85mm series with scissors, i really don't think they will ever bring back the 84mm versions.

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxes at ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:

Sorry for the rant, but that's just my honest opinion these days
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mechanickal on September 25, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I somehow find it hard to believe Vic's reason, today, for not bringing back the 84mm scissors to be the broken machine excuse...  ??? If every part is made from the specific stamping mold and if the machines are multitasking (one machine makes different tools) it would just be tha case to create a new stamping mold for the scissors and corresponding back spring...  :think:

I really thing that the case here is: they just don't care, or want to bother with it  >:(  Since they have the 85mm series with scissors, i really don't think they will ever bring back the 84mm versions.

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxes at ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:

Sorry for the rant, but that's just my honest opinion these days
Don't feel sorry.
I think lot's of people think the same way.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 25, 2017, 06:45:46 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!


85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxesat ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:


Don't want to hate, and I know a LOT of people like these but I feel the same way.  It's gotta be a helluva a lot cheaper to slap different scales on there than make/reproduce older modes.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on September 25, 2017, 06:59:34 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!


85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxesat ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:


Don't want to hate, and I know a LOT of people like these but I feel the same way.  It's gotta be a helluva a lot cheaper to slap different scales on there than make/reproduce older modes.

Totally agree, why should they invest more money in making another 84mm scissors and spring stamping mold, or even try and adapt 85mm scissors to the 84mm line to sell at standard prices when they can spend a hell of lot less on making fancy scales and cool boxes for standard existing models, slap them on, and sell them for premium prices...?

Financially for a corporation, it makes perfect sense. Utility wise for a user (like me) it makes none  :twak:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on September 25, 2017, 09:20:56 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 26, 2017, 05:19:18 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on September 26, 2017, 08:45:37 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NorCalJim on September 26, 2017, 09:03:26 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today

 :like: :like: :like:

Love the green Cadet! The Pioneer X was supposed to be my one and only Alox model but I came down with Alox fever. :)

I didn't warm to the Cadet right away but after purchasing a silver model, it grew on me.  I have all available colors now including orchid.

:cheers:

Jim
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 26, 2017, 10:31:54 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today

Danish run cadet?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 26, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today

 :like: :like: :like:

Love the green Cadet! The Pioneer X was supposed to be my one and only Alox model but I came down with Alox fever. :)

I didn't warm to the Cadet right away but after purchasing a silver model, it grew on me.  I have all available colors now including orchid.

:cheers:

Jim

 :rofl:  Kind of the same story with me but I have been able to show some self control and have limited myself to a silver one.  Soldiers on the other hand... Let's just say I have more than a couple decades' worth.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on September 27, 2017, 04:05:21 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I somehow find it hard to believe Vic's reason, today, for not bringing back the 84mm scissors to be the broken machine excuse...  ??? If every part is made from the specific stamping mold and if the machines are multitasking (one machine makes different tools) it would just be tha case to create a new stamping mold for the scissors and corresponding back spring...  :think:

I really thing that the case here is: they just don't care, or want to bother with it  >:(  Since they have the 85mm series with scissors, i really don't think they will ever bring back the 84mm versions.

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxes at ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:

Sorry for the rant, but that's just my honest opinion these days

If the sales justified it before the tools crapped out, they would have replaced them. To resurrect them, they would have to replace the stamps and dies for the fixed scissor arm, movable arm, backspring, leaf spring, plus jigs and fixtures for drilling the holes, peening the scissor pivot etc etc etc. That level of investment needs the confidence that the sales demand will be there for several tens of thousands of units. A few nostalgic members of an internet forum aren't going to tip the balance  :D There's one way to get the scissors back, and that's to place an order for 50,000 units.  ;)

Aside from this, their cost management approach seems very much to be minimising inventory these days. An example of this would be the Alox Solo blade. They now use a standard Pioneer blade, which sits off center in the handles due to the asymmetrical grind (NOT crinking). The Alox Solo stamps/dies/coining tools obviously crapped out at some point, and the sales of the Solo's aren't worth reinvesting in dedicated tooling - or even running a few coils of steel through the machine while the tooling is set up, and putting a decades blade blanks into stock for a relatively slow moving item. Even if they had the tooling in good condition, it probably wouldn't be worth the down time of switching the tooling over just to run off 500 knife blanks. The down time / change over time may well cost more than the stamping/coining time, thus doubling (or more) the production cost in terms of rate/hour and appropriation of overheads.

Due to the mass production and efficiency models they operate on, and which keep their knives so affordable, any new development/releases have got to be costed out in terms of many tens of thousands of units. If they don't think they are going to sell them in those quantities, they aren't going to make them - simple as that. Sorry guys. Wenger tried doing smaller batch runs of specialist items, but we all know how that story ended - and so do the Elsener family  :whistle:

Just my personal perspective  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on September 27, 2017, 04:33:59 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I somehow find it hard to believe Vic's reason, today, for not bringing back the 84mm scissors to be the broken machine excuse...  ??? If every part is made from the specific stamping mold and if the machines are multitasking (one machine makes different tools) it would just be tha case to create a new stamping mold for the scissors and corresponding back spring...  :think:

I really thing that the case here is: they just don't care, or want to bother with it  >:(  Since they have the 85mm series with scissors, i really don't think they will ever bring back the 84mm versions.

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxes at ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:

Sorry for the rant, but that's just my honest opinion these days

If the sales justified it before the tools crapped out, they would have replaced them. To resurrect them, they would have to replace the stamps and dies for the fixed scissor arm, movable arm, backspring, leaf spring, plus jigs and fixtures for drilling the holes, peening the scissor pivot etc etc etc. That level of investment needs the confidence that the sales demand will be there for several tens of thousands of units. A few nostalgic members of an internet forum aren't going to tip the balance  :D There's one way to get the scissors back, and that's to place an order for 50,000 units.  ;)

Aside from this, their cost management approach seems very much to be minimising inventory these days. An example of this would be the Alox Solo blade. They now use a standard Pioneer blade, which sits off center in the handles due to the asymmetrical grind (NOT crinking). The Alox Solo stamps/dies/coining tools obviously crapped out at some point, and the sales of the Solo's aren't worth reinvesting in dedicated tooling - or even running a few coils of steel through the machine while the tooling is set up, and putting a decades blade blanks into stock for a relatively slow moving item. Even if they had the tooling in good condition, it probably wouldn't be worth the down time of switching the tooling over just to run off 500 knife blanks. The down time / change over time may well cost more than the stamping/coining time, thus doubling (or more) the production cost in terms of rate/hour and appropriation of overheads.

Due to the mass production and efficiency models they operate on, and which keep their knives so affordable, any new development/releases have got to be costed out in terms of many tens of thousands of units. If they don't think they are going to sell them in those quantities, they aren't going to make them - simple as that. Sorry guys. Wenger tried doing smaller batch runs of specialist items, but we all know how that story ended - and so do the Elsener family  :whistle:

Just my personal perspective  :salute:

To expand on this ...

If we assume stamping and coining of a blade blank on an automated run takes 2.5 seconds (which I don't think is unreasonable), every half hour of down time, switching dies over, costs the same time / share of overheads as the production of 720 blade blanks. Plus, on top of that, there's the labour involvement of both the toolsetter, and the guy retreiving the new tools from the stores, and returning the previous ones, compared with the automated stamping where the operators can walk away and work on another machine. It's far more cost effective to run through several thousands of components in one set, as and when bin stock needs replenishing.

I've always worked in lower volume, more specialised and significantly heavier component production, but I have been on tooling changeovers on heavy machinery which have taken two men (me and one other) between seven and eight hours to tackle up and the same again to tackle down at the end of the run. That's viable if you have a two week production run to do (or in our case, a batch of 25 components that take three or four hours each), but if it's just a one hour job - forget it. While my experience is not directly relevant to Vic's processing due to the differences in scale, I do have first hand experience of running production facilities where set up / change over times can make or break your entire company's profits for the month, subject to the batch quantities involved in each order / production run.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mechanickal on September 27, 2017, 04:41:19 PM
Good inputs Al :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MacGyver on September 27, 2017, 05:41:57 PM
I'm in love.
   84mm Golfjack recently modified by our brother, Magentus.
That's neat!

I keep wondering though, it's rumoured that Vic no longer produces 84mm scissors because the equipment to build them broke and was to expensive to replace.
Yet Wenger knives are 85mm and still contain scissors...
Vic owns the Wenger machinery...
85mm scissors for 84mm SAKs won't be that hard to fit, would it?
:think:

I somehow find it hard to believe Vic's reason, today, for not bringing back the 84mm scissors to be the broken machine excuse...  ??? If every part is made from the specific stamping mold and if the machines are multitasking (one machine makes different tools) it would just be tha case to create a new stamping mold for the scissors and corresponding back spring...  :think:

I really thing that the case here is: they just don't care, or want to bother with it  >:(  Since they have the 85mm series with scissors, i really don't think they will ever bring back the 84mm versions.

I don't want to be grouchy here, but sometimes it just feel's they are much more interested in making endless "limited editions" of standard models with fancy scales and neat boxes at ridiculous prices for collectors to buy, than in making and creating new tools or variant's for actual users and Sak enthusiasts.  :rant:

Sorry for the rant, but that's just my honest opinion these days

If the sales justified it before the tools crapped out, they would have replaced them. To resurrect them, they would have to replace the stamps and dies for the fixed scissor arm, movable arm, backspring, leaf spring, plus jigs and fixtures for drilling the holes, peening the scissor pivot etc etc etc. That level of investment needs the confidence that the sales demand will be there for several tens of thousands of units. A few nostalgic members of an internet forum aren't going to tip the balance  :D There's one way to get the scissors back, and that's to place an order for 50,000 units.  ;)

Aside from this, their cost management approach seems very much to be minimising inventory these days. An example of this would be the Alox Solo blade. They now use a standard Pioneer blade, which sits off center in the handles due to the asymmetrical grind (NOT crinking). The Alox Solo stamps/dies/coining tools obviously crapped out at some point, and the sales of the Solo's aren't worth reinvesting in dedicated tooling - or even running a few coils of steel through the machine while the tooling is set up, and putting a decades blade blanks into stock for a relatively slow moving item. Even if they had the tooling in good condition, it probably wouldn't be worth the down time of switching the tooling over just to run off 500 knife blanks. The down time / change over time may well cost more than the stamping/coining time, thus doubling (or more) the production cost in terms of rate/hour and appropriation of overheads.

Due to the mass production and efficiency models they operate on, and which keep their knives so affordable, any new development/releases have got to be costed out in terms of many tens of thousands of units. If they don't think they are going to sell them in those quantities, they aren't going to make them - simple as that. Sorry guys. Wenger tried doing smaller batch runs of specialist items, but we all know how that story ended - and so do the Elsener family  :whistle:

Just my personal perspective  :salute:

To expand on this ...

If we assume stamping and coining of a blade blank on an automated run takes 2.5 seconds (which I don't think is unreasonable), every half hour of down time, switching dies over, costs the same time / share of overheads as the production of 720 blade blanks. Plus, on top of that, there's the labour involvement of both the toolsetter, and the guy retreiving the new tools from the stores, and returning the previous ones, compared with the automated stamping where the operators can walk away and work on another machine. It's far more cost effective to run through several thousands of components in one set, as and when bin stock needs replenishing.

I've always worked in lower volume, more specialised and significantly heavier component production, but I have been on tooling changeovers on heavy machinery which have taken two men (me and one other) between seven and eight hours to tackle up and the same again to tackle down at the end of the run. That's viable if you have a two week production run to do (or in our case, a batch of 25 components that take three or four hours each), but if it's just a one hour job - forget it. While my experience is not directly relevant to Vic's processing due to the differences in scale, I do have first hand experience of running production facilities where set up / change over times can make or break your entire company's profits for the month, subject to the batch quantities involved in each order / production run.

Thanks for the detailed and knowledgeable input on the matter mate  :cheers:

I completely understand all your point's and agree with them. I really have no proper perspective on how much investment and labor it would take to bring back the 84mm scissors again, but for example the 84mm Walker (former Lumberjack), i don't know if they still had the old stamps around for the 84mm saw assembly or if they bult new ones. That had to toke some investment, so why go with the wood saw? Why not the 84mm small Climber instead? The Climber is probably one of their best selling models, so why would an 2 layer 84mm sak with a saw be considered more viable vs an 84mm of their best selling model in a more pocketable size?  Or even still for 2 layers why not the 84mm Golfer?

I just don't understand why they would consider an 84mm saw more usefull than an 84mm scissors, since they brought back the 84mm saw ....  :-\
And given the fact people who carry 84mm models are more likely to use them in an urban/suburban environment, where scissors makes more sense.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 50ft-trad on September 27, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
They already had the saw and combo tool in the inventory from the MFV+. It was simply a matter or putting together a different combinations of parts they already had. Even so, it's MUCH simpler to make a saw than scissors. One piece of metal for the blade, plus the grinding op, plus one backspring, compared with fixed arm + moveable arm + drilling and grinding both + pivot pin + preassembly and peening of pivot + leaf spring + fitting leafspring + backspring x many thousand :ahhh

In fact they may even have introduced this model to boost throughput of the saw if the MFV+ wasn't selling in large enough numbers. It's add the Walker to try to boost sales and minimise slow moving inventory (saw blades and springs), or cull the MFV+ altogether. The combo tool already gets an extra boost to throughput of inventory from the Bantam and Waiter. There's always logic to their decisions, even if they are frustrating for the likes of us  :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on September 27, 2017, 07:37:57 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today

Danish run cadet?

That's it Dan. I do like the Cadet  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on September 27, 2017, 07:39:21 PM
Sportsman. Bliss. But I used the Wenger to slice the tomatoes.

 :like: :tu:

Chevy the Golfjack again today  :salute:

Nice one Dan  :like:

A little green Dane today

 :like: :like: :like:

Love the green Cadet! The Pioneer X was supposed to be my one and only Alox model but I came down with Alox fever. :)

I didn't warm to the Cadet right away but after purchasing a silver model, it grew on me.  I have all available colors now including orchid.

:cheers:

Jim

The Cadet really works for me. Just love the ultra thin way it fades into my pocket no probs at all.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 04, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Man, this thing is nice...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NorCalJim on November 04, 2017, 02:52:31 AM
Man, this thing is nice...

 :like:

It was probably a year or year and a half ago that I was watching a series of Nut'nfancy YouTube videos about different products including one of his favorite light multi-tools, the Juice S2 (had scissors). At the time, scissors were one of my key requirements. One of Nut'nfancy's videos featured the Victorinox Cadet, which he praised. I remember really liking the form factor but having a concern that there were no scissors. It was no accident that my first Alox SAK was the Pioneer X that featured scissors. Eventually, I started buying various other Pioneer models and acquired a Cadet. Now I am a huge fan of the Cadet! It has an amazing build quality and packs very useful tools in a small, narrow form factor.  I thought I had all of the Cadet colors but just realized that I am missing the orange. I keep the silver Cadet within reach of where I watch TV and use it frequently.

Jim

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on November 04, 2017, 01:00:04 PM
Man, this thing is nice...

 :like:

It was probably a year or year and a half ago that I was watching a series of Nut'nfancy YouTube videos about different products including one of his favorite light multi-tools, the Juice S2 (had scissors). At the time, scissors were one of my key requirements. One of Nut'nfancy's videos featured the Victorinox Cadet, which he praised. I remember really liking the form factor but having a concern that there were no scissors. It was no accident that my first Alox SAK was the Pioneer X that featured scissors. Eventually, I started buying various other Pioneer models and acquired a Cadet. Now I am a huge fan of the Cadet! It has an amazing build quality and packs very useful tools in a small, narrow form factor.  I thought I had all of the Cadet colors but just realized that I am missing the orange. I keep the silver Cadet within reach of where I watch TV and use it frequently.

Jim

I'm not really an Alox fan 'cos I like my T&T and small screwdriver. That said my first Cadet sold me on the quality and toolset with a Classic to hand. But .... I'm not smitten by this years green colour so that's not happening for me.  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on November 04, 2017, 01:46:54 PM

The Cadet really works for me. Just love the ultra thin way it fades into my pocket no probs at all.  :cheers:


^^^ This ^^^ (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/13.gif)

And it has a nice suite of tools, feels rugged, and is sheeple friendly. Fantastic EDC.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on November 04, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
Man, this thing is nice...

I concur.  I have a nice well used Red one.  When I got it poor thing had been really beat to crap.  I lovingly did what I could and its been quite a faithful friend.  I carried it to dinner the other night.  Just now I opened a can of tuna.  I wouldn't mind getting a newer version with the file.  Not sure 2 blades makes the most sense for me. 
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 04, 2017, 08:26:21 PM
What i really like about this cadet is the scales... They feel really unique in an awesome way... Never had one like this.

It'll probably remain a shelf queen..
 :facepalm:

I like 84mm... Just prefer 91mm plus scales or 93mm these days
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on November 04, 2017, 08:32:13 PM

It'll probably remain a shelf queen..
 :facepalm:


Noooooooooooooooooooo...!   :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: VICMAN on November 04, 2017, 09:00:08 PM
A little green Dane today

Nice green Cadet!   :like:

I carry a silver cadet in the watch pocket of my jeans.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 04, 2017, 09:04:59 PM
Made this an hour ago. Hello world  :)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: magentus on November 04, 2017, 09:06:03 PM
Nice one T14 - you are a busy bee at the moment.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on November 04, 2017, 09:06:55 PM
Made this an hour ago. Hello world  :)

Way cool. I love it!

 :tu:  :clap:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 04, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
Nice one T14 - you are a busy bee at the moment.  :cheers:

Way cool. I love it!
 :tu:  :clap:

Cheers Gents.  :hatsoff: I hope to squeeze in another mod or two tomorrow.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 04, 2017, 10:24:10 PM
My Walker is due for a make over.

Today´s episode: Keyring nub removal.

The cutting part is easy, now for some filework. My old Champion will do.

In tomorrow´s episode: combo tool modding.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 04, 2017, 10:26:17 PM
Looking forward to seeing your progress. I'll bring the popcorn.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 04, 2017, 10:49:06 PM
It´s flush now.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NorCalJim on November 05, 2017, 03:14:16 AM
My Walker is due for a make over.

Today´s episode: Keyring nub removal.

The cutting part is easy, now for some filework. My old Champion will do.

In tomorrow´s episode: combo tool modding.

 :dwts: Tell me when it's over.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 05, 2017, 02:16:18 PM
I started the filework on the combo tool, rounding the tip and removing the wire stripper. Nearly done!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 05, 2017, 02:55:29 PM
Interesting. The intended function is not obvious to me  :think:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 05, 2017, 03:04:29 PM
Should be obvious by now. After finishing the curve on the inside, I´ll give it a serrated edge. It´ll be crude but functional. Then voila my new rope cutter aka gutting blade.

I switched to small files just now so progress will be slow.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 05, 2017, 04:52:02 PM
 
Should be obvious by now. After finishing the curve on the inside, I´ll give it a serrated edge. It´ll be crude but functional. Then voila my new rope cutter aka gutting blade.

I switched to small files just now so progress will be slow.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 05, 2017, 05:17:27 PM
The blade near its final shape. Yet gotta do some fine work on the inner curve.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: magentus on November 05, 2017, 05:25:02 PM
Nice work Ronald  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 06, 2017, 06:05:30 AM
Next step is beveling. I won´t have any time till Wednesday, which is good because it gives me the opportunity to think it through a little bit. Not yet sure whether to do a bevel on one or both sides. I think a one sided bevel is best, leaving the nicked side as it is.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 06, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
Did some preliminary work on the grind. I decided against beveling after all; I want to keep as much of the spine as possible.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 06, 2017, 10:34:32 PM
aah, gotcha. You are making a smaller version of the 111mm hunter's serrated blade. A pint-sized slasher of sorts  :duel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 11, 2017, 02:47:56 PM
The modded combo tool now is sharp enough to cut paracord. Still needs some work though. BTW I´ll not be adding serrations.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on November 11, 2017, 03:10:19 PM
Ronald, does it seem that the steel of the combo tool is properly hardened to use as a knife blade? I.e., do you think it will hold an edge?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 11, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Hi Nix, it´s too early to tell but I don´t think this blade has had the same hardening treatment as the standard blade.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on November 11, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
Nice mod RoSchro... :like:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on November 11, 2017, 03:22:06 PM
Rediscovered my love for 84mm... carried the Compact Tinker Small today...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/4352144ffa68fef090899bf36384a731.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 11, 2017, 03:27:29 PM
I feel you.

84 is a spectacular size to carry.

I'm even considering modding a wallet to accommodate a my holy grail combo: swisscard + alox bantam.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on November 11, 2017, 03:30:31 PM
I feel you.

84 is a spectacular size to carry.

I'm even considering modding a wallet to accommodate a my holy grail combo: swisscard + alox bantam.
That’s a perfect minimalist urban carry...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on November 11, 2017, 03:44:20 PM
I christened it the RoDent.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on November 11, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
 :like:
I christened it the RoDent.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 11, 2017, 04:20:42 PM
I christened it the RoDent.

  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: NorCalJim on November 11, 2017, 05:42:11 PM
My only and highly regarded 84mm Cadets...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4462/23765377118_e04b0bdfff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Cd4LDm)Cadet Group (https://flic.kr/p/Cd4LDm) by NorCal Jim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/148245174@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Nix on November 11, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
Lovely. The Cadet is a great SAK.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on November 27, 2017, 08:45:10 PM
2015 Limited Edition Steel Blue Cadet today
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on November 28, 2017, 12:52:41 PM
A Grand Prix Small I recently restored... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5b70b66de668dbf1ae126b3b2b6f459b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/92c658c8bce7e14878bf4a7a38727a75.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5313f6dcdb080b52bd9e71c2fed1b9a7.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on November 28, 2017, 12:54:54 PM
 :dd: :dd:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Aloha007 on November 28, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
Awesome SAK.  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 30, 2017, 06:34:57 PM

Climber Small  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on November 30, 2017, 07:33:57 PM
Mmmmmm... 84mm scissors  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: VoetSak on December 05, 2017, 01:04:14 PM
84mm with scissors.

Tadaaaa!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: VoetSak on December 05, 2017, 01:07:13 PM
Ok kidding...

84mm with scissors...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on December 05, 2017, 01:17:39 PM
A Grand Prix Small I recently restored... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5b70b66de668dbf1ae126b3b2b6f459b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/92c658c8bce7e14878bf4a7a38727a75.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5313f6dcdb080b52bd9e71c2fed1b9a7.jpg)


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That's just awesome mate.  :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on December 05, 2017, 02:18:26 PM
A Grand Prix Small I recently restored... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5b70b66de668dbf1ae126b3b2b6f459b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/92c658c8bce7e14878bf4a7a38727a75.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171128/5313f6dcdb080b52bd9e71c2fed1b9a7.jpg)


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That's just awesome mate.  :drool:
Thanks Gareth :hatsoff:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on January 05, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
I'm a fan of 84mm Red Economy SAKs. Gotta catch 'em all eventually  :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 06, 2018, 02:11:04 AM
 :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: matzesu on January 06, 2018, 06:59:49 PM
I want to put my 91 mm Swisschamp XLT and my Sceletool on my Shelf this year and get a SAK which is a lot smaller,

So I ordered a Victorinox Delemont Collection S557 Evogrip,
So the sale Modell I allready have, but new and from Victorinox(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180106/4203d6f3df511c2fe48d49d018b69b8b.jpg)

Are they some diverence to my Old one??
I know the Twizzer and tooth stick Ports are diverent and the can opener also..
I think I will make some pix when I get my new thing..
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: T14 on January 06, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
Are they some diverence to my Old one??
I know the Twizzer and tooth stick Ports are diverent and the can opener also..

If I remember correctly, both openers and the scale tools were changed for the Delemont models.

I want a couple of specific old wengers for the shelf as well :cheers:
-Tom
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mechanickal on January 06, 2018, 10:29:28 PM
Are they some diverence to my Old one??
I know the Twizzer and tooth stick Ports are diverent and the can opener also..

If I remember correctly, both openers and the scale tools were changed for the Delemont models.

I want a couple of specific old wengers for the shelf as well :cheers:
-Tom
Only the can opener was changed in the opener layer.
Toothpick and tweezer is now also Vic.
The awl became Vic too.
The rest is still Wenger as far as I can tell
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: matzesu on January 06, 2018, 10:49:07 PM
As long the Nail Cleaner is still a Nail Cleaner and not a little Knife like on a normal Vic, and it’s works as it should..

I used the Can Opener on my Wenger today the second time, on my Vic’s, I ditnt use they at all..

One of the Reasons I now want to use the S557, is that in my Swisschamp XLT Months, I also had to carry a second Knife to cover the Lockable Blade, and I used the most time the Blade and the Champ was most of the time pocket dump, cause I ditnt wantet to use its blade as it’s too fat to work and to many tools to fold out to clean the Blade,
Whit the S557, I have the Tools i need and a useful Blade

I cut a bagel today whit it’s blade and it’s worked perfectly,
I still can Close the Blade whit One Hand

It is dangerous too close this SAK whit one Hand??
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MaverickMCS on January 07, 2018, 12:10:09 AM
My only 84mm is kinda exotic, so although I love it, I don't really use the tool because I don't know if I would be able to find another in case this one got lost.
It's a Bantam with grey scales and purplish blue coated tools. I can't capture the color in pictures, but they are enough to give an idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/gbbD2yI.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 07, 2018, 12:38:35 AM
My only 84mm is kinda exotic, so although I love it, I don't really use the tool because I don't know if I would be able to find another in case this one got lost.
It's a Bantam with grey scales and purplish blue coated tools. I can't capture the color in pictures, but they are enough to give an idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/gbbD2yI.jpg)

Man, that thing is beautiful!  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Sawl Goodman on January 07, 2018, 02:29:46 AM
My only 84mm is kinda exotic, so although I love it, I don't really use the tool because I don't know if I would be able to find another in case this one got lost.
It's a Bantam with grey scales and purplish blue coated tools. I can't capture the color in pictures, but they are enough to give an idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/gbbD2yI.jpg)
Yeah, what El Corkscrew said. Just stunning! A real treasure. :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on January 07, 2018, 03:40:47 AM
Are they some diverence to my Old one??
I know the Twizzer and tooth stick Ports are diverent and the can opener also..

If I remember correctly, both openers and the scale tools were changed for the Delemont models.

I want a couple of specific old wengers for the shelf as well :cheers:
-Tom
Only the can opener was changed in the opener layer.
Toothpick and tweezer is now also Vic.
The awl became Vic too.
The rest is still Wenger as far as I can tell
The vic delemonts now use Vic’s style of pin rivets with bushings too I think... Maybe someone can confirm this...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 07, 2018, 08:44:40 AM
My only 84mm is kinda exotic, so although I love it, I don't really use the tool because I don't know if I would be able to find another in case this one got lost.
It's a Bantam with grey scales and purplish blue coated tools. I can't capture the color in pictures, but they are enough to give an idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/gbbD2yI.jpg)
Yeah, what El Corkscrew said. Just stunning! A real treasure. :like:

+1 Very exotic  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on January 09, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
Home all today so going small with my Salesman.  I love this one.  Might be my favorite SAK to pocket but ironically doesn't get carried much for fear of losing it. :facepalm:
(http://i.imgur.com/z0d7ggL.jpg)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: FolderBeholder on January 09, 2018, 05:47:40 PM
Home all today so going small with my Salesman.  I love this one.  Might be my favorite SAK to pocket but ironically doesn't get carried much for fear of losing it. :facepalm:
(http://i.imgur.com/z0d7ggL.jpg)
:like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: VICMAN on January 09, 2018, 07:08:36 PM
Home all today so going small with my Salesman. 
That is in great condition!  :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: clown on January 09, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
Home all today so going small with my Salesman. 
That is in great condition!  :like: :tu: :tu:

It's not bad.  The small blade is very slightly bent at the very tip.  And both large and small flat drivers/openers have a very slight twist to them.  But everything works as it should.   Just has some character :)
Title: 84mm SAK love
Post by: matzesu on January 10, 2018, 07:25:51 PM
My Victorinox Delemont ditnt arrived yet,
So I have a Bit Time:
One Question: I want to put a pendant on it, but I didn’t know which:
I have a Victorinox Pendant, but this was originally a Wenger Knife, so I don’t if this fits..

On my Wenger s557, I have the Zipper Cord of my Old Eastpack , which is pretty cool..
i can’t decide
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: matzesu on January 11, 2018, 02:00:10 PM
And it arrived, Pictures Later,
The Tools fold pretty easy out, which is a big progress from my Wenger S557,
The only thing I ditnt like are the sharp edges between the Scales and the Layers, but maybe this is something I have get used too..
Twizzer and Toothpick are indeed Victorinox Parts..
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: matzesu on January 11, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
Some Pictures, the Victorinox is my New One :)
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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Borg on January 11, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
Nice couple  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Mini on January 13, 2018, 06:33:51 AM
Some Pictures, the Victorinox is my New One :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/b1c2f43858b7692ccda4fd5f5a3e941c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/d1b758b63c67272f64ea280ef606b433.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/d1b00188c73fbf3f5236471c397f6024.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/86b0964a5720f5e2a96d5c7d83bffcb9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/e06abed225e05aa8bd4d65384c787fb1.jpg)


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: TennTexan on January 16, 2018, 10:07:16 PM
At the moment my favorite 84mm is the Apprentice.  It packs nearly everything I might need on a daily basis into a slim, pocketable package that weighs next to nothing.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who wishes Victorinox would bring this model back.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 16, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
At the moment my favorite 84mm is the Apprentice.  It packs nearly everything I might need on a daily basis into a slim, pocketable package that weighs next to nothing.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who wishes Victorinox would bring this model back.

 :like: I agree.

But it's Tuesday and it's a while since I carried my Tinker Small

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 18, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
My only 84mm is kinda exotic, so although I love it, I don't really use the tool because I don't know if I would be able to find another in case this one got lost.
It's a Bantam with grey scales and purplish blue coated tools. I can't capture the color in pictures, but they are enough to give an idea:
(https://i.imgur.com/gbbD2yI.jpg)

I don't think I've ever seen one quite like that before. :drool:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: MaverickMCS on January 19, 2018, 03:50:04 PM

I don't think I've ever seen one quite like that before. :drool:

They were made by a company that offers several kinds of coatings for tools/machines and were distributed as gifts. I have no Idea how many are out there, or if the company did the same in other countries.

A few more pics, comparing to a regular blade:

(https://i.imgur.com/w8IkoI7.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/la2IHUp.png)

PS: I am a terrible photographer and my cell doesn't have a good camera, plus the images are resized in MS Paint. The knives look better in real life. :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on January 20, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
My favorite 84mm are the Waiter and the Walker.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Greg Jones on January 20, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
You're all going to get tired of my Recruit, but what can I say!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 20, 2018, 09:29:03 PM
You're all going to get tired of my Recruit, but what can I say!

Tell you what. I'll keep it simple.  :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Ron Who on January 20, 2018, 09:45:49 PM
You're all going to get tired of my Recruit, but what can I say!
Impossible.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: this_is_nascar on January 21, 2018, 01:18:52 AM
You're all going to get tired of my Recruit, but what can I say!
Nothing wrong with the Recruit.  It's a great SAK.  I have one in black and another in red.


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 21, 2018, 07:54:52 PM
You're all going to get tired of my Recruit, but what can I say!

Wait, a Recruit?  Do I have a Recruit?...  :think:  ...I don't have a Recruit!  :ahhh
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Greg Jones on January 21, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
 :oops:
You should get one
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 22, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
:oops:
You should get one

I really should. :-[  I think I've got every other common 84mm SAK, and a few less common ones as well, but I've skipped the Recruit.  I guess it's too much like the Tinker Small, but that's no excuse for not having one.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 22, 2018, 07:19:59 PM
gram for gram ,the Waiter packs more punch than ANY other SAK.  (pretty sure I'm righ about that  :D)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 23, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
gram for gram ,the Waiter packs more punch than ANY other SAK.  (pretty sure I'm righ about that  :D)

Oooh, that's a bold claim. :D  I would have thought is would be a 58mm SAK, but you might be right.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 24, 2018, 03:08:49 AM
Probably up for debate  :D but I guess if you apply math to this, the Rambler wins.  Pretty sure the Waiter wins for the 84 MM class, though.
 :cheers:

Waiter at 34g:
11 functions

Rambler 29g:
10 functions

Minichamp II 49g
14 functions

ClassicSD 21g
7 functions
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 24, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Good research there Dan.

I still think The Sportsman tips it for me in versatility at 84mil. I've been carrying mine for a couple of days now. It's been too mild for my RAF style sheepskin jacket this week but I'm waiting for the next belt of cold!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 24, 2018, 10:39:28 PM
Good research there Dan.

I still think The Sportsman tips it for me in versatility at 84mil. I've been carrying mine for a couple of days now. It's been too mild for my RAF style sheepskin jacket this week but I'm waiting for the next belt of cold!

That's an awesome jacket and SAK, Phil!  :tu:  :like:  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 24, 2018, 10:49:02 PM
Probably up for debate  :D but I guess if you apply math to this, the Rambler wins.  Pretty sure the Waiter wins for the 84 MM class, though.
 :cheers:

Waiter at 34g:
11 functions

Rambler 29g:
10 functions

Minichamp II 49g
14 functions

ClassicSD 21g
7 functions

Now there's some dedication.  :clap:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 24, 2018, 10:56:12 PM
Good research there Dan.

I still think The Sportsman tips it for me in versatility at 84mil. I've been carrying mine for a couple of days now. It's been too mild for my RAF style sheepskin jacket this week but I'm waiting for the next belt of cold!

I think I'd have to agree.  If I really had to pick just one 84mm SAK it'd have to be the Sportsman.  Add the pin and mini screwdriver and you've got a whole load of features in a very neat little package.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 24, 2018, 10:59:57 PM
I've gotten rid of all my sportsman's and your making me miss them.

I did pick up a delemont evolution version of the sportsman.  First, impressions, I like the standard scales better.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 24, 2018, 11:10:57 PM
Good research there Dan.

I still think The Sportsman tips it for me in versatility at 84mil. I've been carrying mine for a couple of days now. It's been too mild for my RAF style sheepskin jacket this week but I'm waiting for the next belt of cold!

That's an awesome jacket and SAK, Phil!  :tu:  :like:  :cheers:

Thank you Dan, the RAF Irvin is great for winter but for Spring and Autumn you really can't beat an A-2  :salute:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 24, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
Good research there Dan.

I still think The Sportsman tips it for me in versatility at 84mil. I've been carrying mine for a couple of days now. It's been too mild for my RAF style sheepskin jacket this week but I'm waiting for the next belt of cold!

I think I'd have to agree.  If I really had to pick just one 84mm SAK it'd have to be the Sportsman.  Add the pin and mini screwdriver and you've got a whole load of features in a very neat little package.

Exactamundo ! :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 24, 2018, 11:18:02 PM
Guess what I've just put in my pocket.  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 25, 2018, 04:24:22 PM
This is my Favorite 84mm

El Shackjack  :climber:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Gareth on January 25, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
This is my Favorite 84mm

El Shackjack  :climber:

I made one of those for myself many years ago, though mine eventually got dressed in white scales.  Excellent SAK.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 25, 2018, 04:33:38 PM
This is my Favorite 84mm

El Shackjack  :climber:

I made one of those for myself many years ago, though mine eventually got dressed in white scales.  Excellent SAK.  :cheers:

Indubitably  :cheers:  White scales would be nice!   Sir Magentus did this mod for me.  :D
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: DrC. on January 25, 2018, 05:32:59 PM
I've recently been given my grandfather's old 84mm Climber. He gave me my first SAK, a Wenger Forester when I was a kid (and probably a bit too young to really value it properly).

Looking at the tang stamps and the clip-point small blade, the information from SAK wiki and other threads suggests that it is probably from the early 70s, although I would value a second opinion from those who know their stuff better than me. I have got some replacement scales and a scissor spring on order - after all, it seems the most fitting thing to do with it is use it.

There is something engraved on the blade too, but I can't really make it out
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 25, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
With the 5turn corkscrew and Victoria stamp, it could even be 60's  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: DrC. on January 25, 2018, 06:35:57 PM
It would be impressive if it were 1960s, especially as that would mean it was in his pocket basically every day for nearly 50 years without getting lost along the way.

I have added another pic. The small blade is a clip point, which suggests it is from before the mid-70s, and the corkscrew indicates possibly 60s (thanks El Corkscrew) but the can opener looks more like the mid 80s version to me. Maybe he sent it off for repair at one point and it was replaced?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 25, 2018, 06:42:27 PM
Does the other side of the can opener have a +PAT?  If so, '71 and before  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: DrC. on January 25, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Does the other side of the can opener have a +PAT?  If so, '71 and before  :cheers:

No it is blank, which is odd considering the other features on this. It most closely resembles to type D on http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Can+Opener which is late 80s through early 90s.

Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: El Corkscrew on January 25, 2018, 08:11:46 PM
Then I'd say 72 0r 73 or possibly early 74  :cheers:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: DrC. on January 25, 2018, 09:28:36 PM
Then I'd say 72 0r 73 or possibly early 74  :cheers:

Thanks. That means it had 40 years pocket time. It'll be nice to get it cleaned and patched up so it can have a second life
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 25, 2018, 10:02:22 PM
This is my Favorite 84mm

El Shackjack  :climber:

 :like: :like: :like:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on January 26, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
2015 Blue Cadet today. I love the slim profile for a day suited and booted.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on January 26, 2018, 08:35:44 PM
Still kicking myself for having ignored those lovely blue 2015 cadets etc...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 84millimeter on January 26, 2018, 09:08:27 PM
I have a new and unused 2015 steel blue cadet if you have another coloured cadet or bantam to trade?
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on January 26, 2018, 09:10:16 PM
Depends how much you like pink... ::)
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: 84millimeter on January 26, 2018, 09:11:56 PM
It’s the standard silver Bantam with red shield that gets the most pocket time for me. £16.33 on Amazon today!
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on January 26, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
I'd buy the blue one off you for a decent price - as long as it's not 75 euros or whatever it was the last time I saw one on ebay...
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Thunderpants on January 26, 2018, 09:28:18 PM
Or maybe you'd like a Nespresso pioneer! I have 2 of those from last year.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on February 15, 2018, 10:55:46 AM
The Sportsman.

Pint sized perfection  :angel:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: VICMAN on February 15, 2018, 12:40:02 PM
The Sportsman.

Pint sized perfection  :angel:
:like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: TennTexan on February 18, 2018, 02:55:24 AM
A trio of 84mm goodness...

Apprentice, Small Tinker, Salesman
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on February 18, 2018, 04:41:28 AM
A trio of 84mm goodness...

Apprentice, Small Tinker, Salesman
Nice ones Mickey... would love to have an apprentice in my collection too... :like: :drool:


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: TennTexan on February 18, 2018, 06:33:14 AM
A trio of 84mm goodness...

Apprentice, Small Tinker, Salesman
Nice ones Mickey... would love to have an apprentice in my collection too... :like: :drool:


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Thanks!

Keep an eye on eBay.  Apprentices come up for sale pretty often.

Or you could make one by swapping the corkscrew on a Waiter for a Phillips.  Just buy a Tinker or some other Phillips model with a broken blade for a few bucks and use it as a donor.
Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: jaya_man on February 18, 2018, 06:34:45 AM
A trio of 84mm goodness...

Apprentice, Small Tinker, Salesman
Nice ones Mickey... would love to have an apprentice in my collection too... :like: :drool:


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Thanks!

Keep an eye on eBay.  Apprentices come up for sale pretty often.

Or you could make one by swapping the corkscrew on a Waiter for a Phillips.  Just buy a Tinker or some other Phillips model with a broken blade for a few bucks and use it as a donor.
Yup... almost made myself a custom apprentice...


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Title: Re: 84mm SAK love
Post by: Fast Bill on February 18, 2018, 08:46:59 AM
A trio of 84mm goodness...

Apprentice, Small Tinker, Salesman

 :cheers: TT very nice