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Tool Talk => Keychain and One Piece Tools => Topic started by: tonyg on March 11, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
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If you edc a medium SAK, (like the Tinker), rather than a pliers-based multi tool, which would you find to be the more useful companion piece: a small crescent wrench or a small vise grips, and why?
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If you edc a medium SAK, (like the Tinker), rather than a pliers-based multi tool, which would you find to be the more useful companion piece: a small crescent wrench or a small vise grips, and why?
I'd say vise grips, they're just more useful .
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Vice grips. I carry a BO 4" Gearwrench Crescent. And still wish everyone I use it that I had a 4" Vice Grip Instead.
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I'd say neither. My recommendation is a pair of 6 inch slipjoint pliers. I carry a pair of Channel Lock Brand ones.
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I'd say neither. My recommendation is a pair of 6 inch slipjoint pliers. I carry a pair of Channel Lock Brand ones.
Why have I never thought of this!!! My addiction to channel lock Blue Handled Series pliers is just as strong as my addiction to MTs...
My toolbox of Channel locks looks like Chako's toolbox of Leathermans
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I carry a set of 8 inch CL pliers in my car glovebox. You should be able to find them at almost any hardware store.
They are tough to find at big box stores such as Depot or Lowes.
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The only thing to consider with the vise grips is if you need it to hold something together while you need both your other hands free. If this is not a need for you than go with the channel locks.
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I like my little adjustable wrenches. I carry one in my pocket often.
I also keep a little needle nose vise grips in my bag in my tool kit.
Both are handy little tools but there two totally different tools for different jobs.
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Vise Grips are more versatile, but they tend to damage nuts when used in place of a wrench. Given that, I need a wrench a lot more often than I need the other things I can do with Vise Grips.
I have to also throw in that I much prefer the Knipex Pliers Wrench (http://aslanrefuge.org/gear/pivoting_tools/knipex_pliers_wrench_86_03_150.html) to a regular adjustable wrench.
(http://aslanrefuge.org/gear/pivoting_tools/img/knipex_pliers_wrench_86_03_150.jpg)
The Pliers Wrench is easier to use and more versatile than an adjustable wrench. It can also handle much larger nuts relative to its size. The thing doesn't open far enough to substitute for a set of pliers, but it is an improvement over a wrench.
--Bob Q
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I'd go with the small vise grips. MUch more versatile. Cam be used a pliers, or as a wrench for bolts, or a clamp to hold something. Small vise grips rule. Three tools in one.
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I'd go with the small vise grips. MUch more versatile. Cam be used a pliers, or as a wrench for bolts, or a clamp to hold something. Small vise grips rule. Three tools in one.
Agreed,
I was always a channel lock guy, whatever job I was on I had a pair of 8" in the back pocket, the three tools to have were always a pair of, channel locks, a crescent, and vice grips. But if you have to narrow it to only one then like cbl51 said vice grip, then it's three in one!
JR
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I'll throw one out here. Which of these two would I get more mileage out of: the small long nose vice grips or a pair of lineman pliers?
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Leatherman Crunch!?
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I'll throw one out here. Which of these two would I get more mileage out of: the small long nose vice grips or a pair of lineman pliers?
That's a tough one. Do you cut a lot of soft wire?
Nate
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another thing I discovered is that a small 4" vise grips can also serve as a decent bit driver by clamping a bit either at a right angle to the vise grips or in line with them, depending on the task. Seems like it would work especially well with the Leatherman flat style bits.
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In my original post, my question should have specified pocket edc rather than an edc kit for car, bike or pack.
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I'll throw one out here. Which of these two would I get more mileage out of: the small long nose vice grips or a pair of lineman pliers?
That's a tough one. Do you cut a lot of soft wire?
Nate
To be honest, I don't cut wire a lot but its nice to have a wire cutter if needed.
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Some vice grips have wire cutters on them. That would probably be the best route. If you was cutting copper all of the time and bending wire all the time, then Linesman pliers.
Nate
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Some vice grips have wire cutters on them. That would probably be the best route. If you was cutting copper all of the time and bending wire all the time, then Linesman pliers.
Nate
Sounds like vice grips might a better route for me. I might buy a cheapo pair of linesman pliers from Harbor Freight or something to try them out.
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The best wrench to use on a hex nut or bolt is the the six-point wrench in the correct size. If it's rusted on or too gouged up for that wrench to fit, then a Vicegrips is the go-to choice, but you have to accept the damage that's going to cause.
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I only use vise grips as a last resort due to the damage they do cause, I got a few different varieties, including small pointy jaws, small curved jaws, large curved jaws, large combination jaws, large vise grips with chain for jaws used to hold engine pulleys etc. I gotta get a large pair with straight jaws, they're less destructive on hex bolts/ nuts.
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I knew I had a small pair somewhere, found them in one of my toolboxes.
JR
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Hi there.
I lurked this forum for a couple of years...
You guys got me thinking.
Thing is, when I read this thread I immediately said "No way, vice grips are either not holding anything, or trashing something into threads. I would go for the crescent wrench without a doubt."
In fact, I do have a 6'' long crescent in my maxpedition-like organizer. It's not an EDC but a "carry it if you are leaving home in order to solve a problem" or something like that.
I could need/use a vice grip as a horrid clamp. I have (in my opinion, better) covered everything else with a Rebar, a 5'' long side cutter and the 6'' wrench.
OF COURSE!!!! I'm always looking for needed/cool/useful things to pack into my organizer! Next one?
A small C-clamp.
I bought one some years ago in order to fix my snowboard, it's around 3'' long, it should be at my parent's holiday cabin.
Yeah, surface lifts are not sowboarding n00b friendly :/
Wait, you later said that you are asking for advice in order to pocket edc, not kit, etc.
Anyway, still true in my opinion: "vice grips are either not holding anything, or trashing something into threads".
I love this site.
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:salute: Welcome! glad you decided to make it official - it is a great site isn't it?
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:salute: Welcome! glad you decided to make it official - it is a great site isn't it?
Yeah! and here it is my no return point, as a thank you to the whole forum:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,58949.0.html
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It's a tough choice, but I'd go with Vise-Grips. They may not always make the job pretty but they'll always get the job done. :tu:
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Great post but is it practical to carry a 4 inch vise grips in your pocket?
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Great post but is it practical to carry a 4 inch vise grips in your pocket?
I carry these two not in my pocket but in my manbag. ;)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/teofiloeugeniopanganiban/IMG_20150629_212953.jpg) (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/teofiloeugeniopanganiban/media/IMG_20150629_212953.jpg.html)
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Great post but is it practical to carry a 4 inch vise grips in your pocket?
I carry these two not in my pocket but in my manbag. ;)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/teofiloeugeniopanganiban/IMG_20150629_212953.jpg) (http://s306.photobucket.com/user/teofiloeugeniopanganiban/media/IMG_20150629_212953.jpg.html)
You can tackle a lot with those two :tu:
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I typically carry a Craftsman. The pliers work for light grasping, but when it comes to putting a large amount of force on something, they perform very poorly. The wire cutters on the pliers are so tiny, they're useless. I believe Victorinox only put light electronic work in mind, not the big stuff like Wenger did with the full-size pair.
I carry a Proto USA pair of slip joint pliers (were my grandfather's) and a 60 year old pair of Utica model 10-7 wire cutters (were my great-grandfather's) in my right jeans pocket when I'm working with my grandfather on the farm. It would only cost me about $10 to buy both again used if I broke them, but they're so well made, there's almost no chance of that.
I'm right now considering getting a Leatherman PST (which is only about $25 used, and is supposedly better than modern Leathermans) for the pliers and file.
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I carry a Vic Hercules and the pliers are good for picking up small items in hard to reach angles. They are more like tweezers on steroids. I also carry a pair of Channel Lock slipjoint pliers and a pair of linemans pliers.