Post by: flbeachbum on July 23, 2016, 08:09:53 PM
This got me thinking about my first aid kit. All I had with me is a few band aids and antibiotic cream. I have been intending to put one together for some time now, but it always seems to fall to the bottom of the to-do list and never gets done. I have looked at a few of the prepackaged ones but they look under supplied and like the priority of the manufacturer was marketing and not first aid, especially the tools. I don't think I would be comfortable trusting somebody's life to them.
What would you suggest to put in one other than the obvious band-aids, antibiotic cream, meds, scissors? I am looking for something small enough to put in the end pocket of my tackle bag or day hiking bag. A kit to leave in the truck or for the house is a discussion for another day.
EMS type scissors: some are functional and some just look good. What would you recommend that is actually useful?
What do you carry yours in? I can't find anything I like. I want something small enough to fit in my space requirements but also would be obvious as a first aid kit if I needed to send someone else to get it.
Post by: Millhouse on July 23, 2016, 11:38:25 PM
Plasters
Bandages
Wound dressings
Antiseptic wipes
Burn Gel
Sling
Nitrile gloves
Antibacterial hand gel
Scalpels
Paracetamol
Ibuprofen
Antihistamines
Anti diarrhoea
Micropore tape
Sterile eye wash
Fenix E05
Victorinox Explorer
EMT Shears
Tweezers
Foil blanket
Post by: Poncho65 on July 24, 2016, 12:21:30 AM
They still sound horrible :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
:rofl: Sorry but you need to type it in as 2 words salt water or the language filter changes it to smurf ;)
Post by: Poncho65 on July 24, 2016, 12:22:49 AM
I will go and round a link or two up :tu:
Post by: Poncho65 on July 24, 2016, 12:29:36 AM
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,66429.0.html
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,60250.0.html
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,36936.0.html
Here are a few links for FAKs :cheers:
They are varying topics but give you a good idea of what you may want in your own kit :cheers:
Post by: flbeachbum on July 24, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
I have been wondering what some people here had against smurfs. I didn't realize the board did that on its own. It's very strange that it has a problem with salt water though.
The catfish are pure >:D no matter what you call them. I don't even throw them back in the water anymore. I toss them up on the beach for the Great Herons that are stalking your catch before you can even get it reeled in. There is no excuse for allowing those things to multiply.
Does this mean I don't have to edit my thoughts and can just type in anything the way it comes to mind? If so I would love to have one of those for my mouth.
Post by: TazzieRob on July 25, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Post by: TazzieRob on July 25, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
Post by: Aloha on July 25, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Post by: Toolslinger on July 25, 2016, 03:50:13 PM
It's all good though, after a while you'll stop saying smurf all the time and just say smurf :D
It's in your daily life you'll get strange looks when you filter yourself and say smurf instead of smurf :rofl:
I self-censor in real life with smurf... :facepalm:
Post by: Poncho65 on July 25, 2016, 03:52:55 PM
It's all good though, after a while you'll stop saying smurf all the time and just say smurf :DIt's in your daily life you'll get strange looks when you filter yourself and say smurf instead of smurf :rofl:
I self-censor in real life with smurf... :facepalm:
Sounds fine to me :tu:
:D
Post by: flbeachbum on July 25, 2016, 04:06:14 PM
Perhaps an indication of too much time spent here?It's all good though, after a while you'll stop saying smurf all the time and just say smurf :DIt's in your daily life you'll get strange looks when you filter yourself and say smurf instead of smurf :rofl:
I self-censor in real life with smurf... :facepalm:
J/K :)
Post by: David on July 25, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Post by: Aloha on July 25, 2016, 08:05:48 PM
Post by: eamo on July 25, 2016, 08:16:04 PM
Post by: Obi1shinobee on August 07, 2016, 06:55:11 PM
It's all good though, after a while you'll stop saying smurf all the time and just say smurf :DIt's in your daily life you'll get strange looks when you filter yourself and say smurf instead of smurf :rofl:
I self-censor in real life with smurf... :facepalm:
Sounds fine to me :tu:
:D
Where First Aid Badge :pok: :pok: :pok: :pok:
Post by: lshaw on August 12, 2016, 12:44:25 PM
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Post by: JBW1 on September 12, 2016, 02:06:15 AM
Post by: Poncho65 on September 12, 2016, 02:31:12 AM
Thanks for the recommendations, I need a few kits, I was planning on building my own with this.
Looks interesting :like: If you do make a FAK with that could you post a few pics :tu:
Post by: JBW1 on September 12, 2016, 02:45:17 AM
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Post by: Poncho65 on September 12, 2016, 04:05:21 AM
Yeah for sure, found the bag for $30, and figure I'll build it a bit at a time.....where to start?? Duct tape and clean rags, check.
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Band aids and triple antibiotic ointment, hydrocortizone cream and some alcohol wipes are a good next step that I always start with :tu:
Post by: Aloha on September 12, 2016, 04:39:12 PM
https://youtu.be/F-X8zFaHvXg
Post by: Etherealicer on September 12, 2016, 07:10:30 PM
Not all is gold that shines as you can read in this thread (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,49510.0.html)
I ended up giving these to a paramedic a while back. She reported they didn't hold up very well on the job.
Scissors are no easy choice either (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,66535.0.html). There is a huge problem (at least for me) with access to decent shears. My basic conclusion was: the bigger the better ;)
I have settled for the Vic Classic (tiny kit), Dovo (medium) and blunted Kai (full sized).
Post by: JBW1 on September 16, 2016, 04:34:38 AM
Post by: flbeachbum on March 16, 2017, 04:28:14 PM
I made two identical kits because I have a bad habit of removing things from one place and not returning them to their original location. Then I either can't find them or forget to take them. Out of sight, out of mind you know. So I have one in my fishing tackle bag and one in my hiking / travel day bag. I am probably going to put together a third one for the center console of my truck so I don't have to break into the trauma kit for boo boos.
Interested in any feedback you have. Did I forget anything obvious? Questions and suggestions are more than welcome. Please keep in mind that this is basically a boo boo kit for minor accidents. I am currently working on a more in depth trauma kit to keep in the truck.
Post by: Aloha on March 16, 2017, 04:31:59 PM
BooBoo Kits need only the basics. They really don't need to be over thought. Yours looks great. Better later than never.
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 16, 2017, 06:09:26 PM
JR
Post by: flbeachbum on March 17, 2017, 12:20:09 PM
Post by: powernoodle on March 17, 2017, 01:10:55 PM
http://www.adventuremedicalkits.com/medical-kits.html
You can also make a mini boo boo kit using a 3x3 or similar craft-type ziplock with just a couple of band-aids and wipes. You can give this to a stranger as needed.
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 17, 2017, 06:43:50 PM
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 17, 2017, 07:52:20 PM
Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't want any hesitation if I'm trying to help someone, or if they are trying to help me. Gloves can make a huge difference in whether someone is willing to put their hands somewhere.
Def
Post by: Aloha on March 17, 2017, 08:50:56 PM
In my opinion latex gloves are an absolute must have. Several pairs too.
Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't want any hesitation if I'm trying to help someone, or if they are trying to help me. Gloves can make a huge difference in whether someone is willing to put their hands somewhere.
Def
Non latex would be great as well but either way gloves are a must. I keep several pair in my vehicle.
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 17, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
In my opinion latex gloves are an absolute must have. Several pairs too.Yes gloves are a must, and are in the bigger fak, but are you telling me if Megan had a booboo while out hiking you need gloves to put a bandaid on?
Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't want any hesitation if I'm trying to help someone, or if they are trying to help me. Gloves can make a huge difference in whether someone is willing to put their hands somewhere.
Def
Jr
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 17, 2017, 10:00:58 PM
:P
Seriously, Megan is safe, but I don't know where other people have been or what they've done. Better safe than sorry.
Def
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 17, 2017, 10:24:40 PM
*response withheld due to the family friendly nature of the forum*Well yeah, there are even some family friendly people I'd still put gloves on for!
:P
Seriously, Megan is safe, but I don't know where other people have been or what they've done. Better safe than sorry.
Def
Could even make a little keychain thingy to hold a pair of gloves, but in my fak I have a few pairs..
JR
Post by: powernoodle on March 17, 2017, 11:16:31 PM
Post by: Poncho65 on March 18, 2017, 01:38:50 AM
Wear gloves 24/7 like I do, so you are always ready.
8)
:D
Post by: Poncho65 on March 18, 2017, 01:39:49 AM
I am CPR certified ;)
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 18, 2017, 04:32:53 AM
The first pic is both the two kits
The second is what's in the little one,
And the third is whats in the large one,
But I took a few things out, put most of the bandaids in the little tin and put that and everything else inside the the larger one.
JR
Post by: Poncho65 on March 18, 2017, 05:34:18 AM
Post by: MadPlumbarian on March 18, 2017, 06:41:34 AM
Some nice well organized kits MadP :salute: :like: :like:Thanks,
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2017, 02:31:27 PM
I guess it's time I remedied that.... I think I may also get a small Otterbox and build a kit for kayaking- we often go quite a few miles out of the way, and injuries can and do happen in the woods. I have more than a few scars on my shins from portaging through thick bushes, or slipping on wet rocks while gettinig in and out of the boat. One time I even gouged my shin pretty good on the boat cowling (lip around the cockpit) while getting in.
Given some of the places we go paddling in can be a bit nasty, the ability to clean and cover a boo boo seems important.
For example, one time I got a bit of canal water in my eye- by the next day my eye was so swollen up and crusted over that I couldn't see out of it, and I had to wear sunglasses everywhere so people wouldn't throw up when they saw me! :ahhh
Def
Post by: Don Pablo on March 18, 2017, 02:39:52 PM
Post by: eamo on March 18, 2017, 02:44:22 PM
For example, one time I got a bit of canal water in my eye- by the next day my eye was so swollen up and crusted over that I couldn't see out of it, and I had to wear sunglasses everywhere so people wouldn't throw up when they saw me! :ahhh
eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thats just one of the many reasons why i prefer sea kayaking
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2017, 02:47:06 PM
For example, one time I got a bit of canal water in my eye- by the next day my eye was so swollen up and crusted over that I couldn't see out of it, and I had to wear sunglasses everywhere so people wouldn't throw up when they saw me! :ahhh
eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thats just one of the many reasons why i prefer sea kayaking
I do that too, but as it is now a 14 hour driver to get to the ocean, I am a little less inclined to do that! :ahhh
Def
Post by: eamo on March 18, 2017, 03:45:25 PM
For example, one time I got a bit of canal water in my eye- by the next day my eye was so swollen up and crusted over that I couldn't see out of it, and I had to wear sunglasses everywhere so people wouldn't throw up when they saw me! :ahhh
eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
thats just one of the many reasons why i prefer sea kayaking
I do that too, but as it is now a 14 hour driver to get to the ocean, I am a little less inclined to do that! :ahhh
Def
yeah, i can walk to the atlantic in about 5 ish minutes from my home . . . do you miss the sea since you moved ?
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2017, 04:18:05 PM
Def
Post by: eamo on March 18, 2017, 04:41:45 PM
Post by: powernoodle on March 18, 2017, 04:57:22 PM
I even ordered a few of the CPR masks
The development of CPR without mouth-to-mouth in the past few years is interesting.
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/cpr_without_mouth_to_mouth_rescue_breathing_may_be_better_for_many_victims_of_cardiac_arrest
Though mouth-to-mouth is still recommended in some circumstances:
" "It is very important to understand that the patients in this study were adults and that for most children who suffer cardiac arrest, such as drowning victims, we must do rescue breathing," says Weisfeldt, a past president of the AHA (1989-1990).
He also notes that there are adults with breathing-related causes of sudden death where rescue breathing should be performed, including patients with sudden, acute heart failure, severe chronic lung disease, or acute asthma, and cardiac arrest."
Post by: flbeachbum on March 18, 2017, 09:29:33 PM
I think the new public push to hands only CPR is to encourage the average person to do SOMETHING. Something is better than nothing I guess. At least that's what I've been told by my medical friends. Despite what tv may lead you to believe, the fact is that a very low percentage of people survive even with full CPR. It is most effective in people whose cardiac arrest was brought on as a result of drownings and other trauma. People whose cardiac arrest is a result of underlying medical problems do not fare well long term at all.
Post by: Mechanickal on March 18, 2017, 09:52:33 PM
It is most effective in people whose cardiac arrest was brought on as a result of drownings and other trauma. People whose cardiac arrest is a result of underlying medical problems do not fare well long term at all.
Last year there was a TV show on air that displayed the life of EMC helicopter doctors who went to medical emergencies within minutes.
Your post made me realise that, indeed, people pulled from the water after drowning usualy recovered completely thanks to CPR performed by bystanders.
People who suffered from a cardiac arrest during, for example, cycling were usualy less lucky...
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 18, 2017, 10:08:40 PM
As a former paramedic student and a nationally registered EMT I am not a big fan of hands only CPR. While there is a small amount of oxygen left in the blood, it gets less and less as it is circulated through the body. They do not teach hands only to medical professionals for a reason. Even the DOC requires me to perform full CPR when we recertify every two years.
I think the new public push to hands only CPR is to encourage the average person to do SOMETHING. Something is better than nothing I guess. At least that's what I've been told by my medical friends. Despite what tv may lead you to believe, the fact is that a very low percentage of people survive even with full CPR. It is most effective in people whose cardiac arrest was brought on as a result of drownings and other trauma. People whose cardiac arrest is a result of underlying medical problems do not fare well long term at all.
You hit the nail on the head, and this is exactly the reason I commented on wearing gloves. I also need to get a mask or two.
The fact is, people will hesitate before putting their mouths on that of a complete stranger's, and that hesitation can make a huge difference, all else being equal. By getting people to concentrate on hands only, it eliminates the concern, and therefore hesitation of performing mouth to mouth.
I wasn't aware that the percentage of survivors was that low- I have actually never been in a position where CPR was actually necessary, although I have been in situations where people have multiple lacerations and puncture wounds, or broken bones.
Def
Post by: flbeachbum on March 18, 2017, 10:46:53 PM
Post by: Poncho65 on March 19, 2017, 01:02:12 AM
Good discussion :tu: Also that reminds me that it is almost time for a refresher course :cheers:
Post by: Mechanickal on March 20, 2017, 08:49:59 PM
I have never been in the situation where CPR was needed either (thankfully) but that is one of the main reasons I carry a CPR mask (I don't want to have to hesitate about trying to help someone or potentially saving someones life) :salute:I carried a CPR mask in my bag but it was so bulky I had to leave other stuff at home...
Good discussion :tu: Also that reminds me that it is almost time for a refresher course :cheers:
Post by: Poncho65 on March 20, 2017, 08:53:11 PM
I have never been in the situation where CPR was needed either (thankfully) but that is one of the main reasons I carry a CPR mask (I don't want to have to hesitate about trying to help someone or potentially saving someones life) :salute:I carried a CPR mask in my bag but it was so bulky I had to leave other stuff at home...
Good discussion :tu: Also that reminds me that it is almost time for a refresher course :cheers:
The kind I have is very portable and takes very little space up :tu: It is even designed (the small.pouch it comes in) with a split ring for key chain carry :cheers: