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Title: Family heirloom
Post by: King_Gorilla on September 08, 2019, 04:51:43 AM
I just went to visit my uncle.  Long-story-short, his health isn't great, he said he wanted to give me something now encase he dies sometime soon.  So he got out an a very old picture that showed him and my father when they were about 4-6 years old with a few similar aged cousins, and their grandfather.  He talked about how he had been given this knife by his grandfather (my great-grandfather) and how he had pretty much had it his whole life.  My uncle knows that he and I share a fascination with knives and multitools so he wanted me to have this knife. 

*I tossed my Crunch in the picture next to it for size comparison.

It's a big sucker.  I don't have a scale at home but I can tell you it is noticeably heavier than my LM Signal.    10 ounces if I had to guess
6 inches long closed
the handle is just over an inch wide and just under an inch thick
Both blades are about 4.5 inches

no brand or logos,  just the words:  COLONIAL PROV. R.I.  on the blade. 
It has a big hefty liner lock on the main blade but it almost doesn't need it (Once you've cleared the liner lock it takes quite a bit to close the blade).  The saw does not lock into place but it has the normal slip joint type of construction you find in SAKs.  (side note:  it has a 90 degree stopping point just like the slotted driver/bottle opener on a victorinox, which I find very funny because the saw couldn't possibly be used well in that position)  :D
There are black plastic scales on either side but the rest of this beast is metal.  I feel like the thick bolsters alone make up for a quarter of the knifes weight.

Over-all, I really like the shape of the blade.  I am very pleased that it was given to me.  I doubt that I will be taking it on many treks or using it for many projects because while it seems to be very strong and reliable, I can't see any reason why I would carry this monster over my Vic RangerGrip or whatever Leatherman that I would be carrying that day.

I'd love to hear if anyone on here has any sort of idea about what company would have made a knife like this or thoughts about this or similar knives.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: spudley112 on September 08, 2019, 05:12:15 AM
That, sir, is a WWII folding pilot survival knife. Very nice.
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: comis on September 08, 2019, 05:25:39 AM
That is an awesome gift, and may you someday pass it down to family member that will continue to cherish this gift.

More vintage knife expert will chime in, I believe the COLONIAL PROV. R.I. is the tang stamp for the Colonial Knife.

Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: enki_ck on September 08, 2019, 11:44:07 AM
That, sir, is a WWII folding pilot survival knife. Very nice.

So why exactly were they folding pilots in WW2? Were the planes so small? :think:

:P

Thanks fot the quick ID, mate :tu:

A very intreresting knife and backstory for sure. Was your great grandfather a navy pilot?
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Fuzzbucket on September 08, 2019, 11:54:25 AM
That, sir, is a WWII folding pilot survival knife. Very nice.

Nice one.  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Fuzzbucket on September 08, 2019, 12:01:41 PM
What a lovely precious piece of family history to be given. Well done your uncle for insuring it's passed on to the next generation along with the photo.  :hatsoff:


...

(side note:  it has a 90 degree stopping point just like the slotted driver/bottle opener on a victorinox, which I find very funny because the saw couldn't possibly be used well in that position)  :D

...


That's a half stop, it's a safety feature on larger slip joints, stops it closing on your fingers.  :tu:

Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Alan K. on September 08, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
Very nice gift from your uncle and a great story to go with it. :cheers:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Rapidray on September 08, 2019, 03:16:15 PM
Congratulations on becoming a custodian on this heirloom!  And for sharing it with us.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: chip on September 08, 2019, 03:18:14 PM
Spudley is correct
https://www.militarytour.com/us-pilots-folding-survival-knife-with-saw-blade-c-1.html
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Aloha on September 08, 2019, 04:00:16 PM
Wonderful heirloom.  Thank you for sharing your story and the pics.
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: SteveC on September 08, 2019, 05:04:41 PM
Congratulations on becoming a custodian on this heirloom!  And for sharing it with us.  :cheers:


+1   :tu:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 08, 2019, 05:07:11 PM
 :o that's a beastie
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Nix on September 08, 2019, 05:25:03 PM
Very cool!  :like:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Chako on September 08, 2019, 05:57:58 PM
A great knife to pass down in your family. :cheers:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Reinier on September 08, 2019, 06:19:58 PM
So why exactly were they folding pilots in WW2? Were the planes so small? :think:

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/CfBFkM6pvgxI4/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a7a74ca760745ac60a105ed8d08c6300c99a231be&rid=giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: pfrsantos on September 09, 2019, 11:57:29 AM

+1   :tu:

+2

 :tu: :tu:

It looks very well kept.
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: lister on September 09, 2019, 05:28:45 PM
I think I saw one of those in a video by [the guy who eats old military rations on youtube] in a video about pilot survival kit.  :D
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: microbe on September 09, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
A knife that was used to fight oppression in WWII and with history tied to your family? Awesome.  :salute:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Poncho65 on September 09, 2019, 07:20:38 PM
Very cool piece of history and even cooler that it is from a family member that passed it down :o :like:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Greg Jones on September 10, 2019, 12:38:50 AM
 :iagree:  :tu:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Aloha on September 10, 2019, 04:27:35 PM
Thinking about this blade.  It would be really neat in a shadow box.  I've seen some wonderful displays. 
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: lister on September 10, 2019, 04:54:35 PM
I think I saw one of those in a video by [the guy who eats old military rations on youtube] in a video about pilot survival kit.  :D

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUcFhJLm34&list=PLBGcWhZwqNZ-Iqvhjp4kLfDbvoBobu0P1&index=2&t=0s

Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Huntsman on September 11, 2019, 12:29:55 AM
What a monster !!   :o

And what a lovely story and precious heirloom

And as usual ...... A super fast ID - 20 minutes - You guys are awesome!!
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: King_Gorilla on September 14, 2019, 11:42:31 AM
That, sir, is a WWII folding pilot survival knife. Very nice.
Thanks for the info Spudley

A very intreresting knife and backstory for sure. Was your great grandfather a navy pilot?
Enki_ck,
I don’t know.  My fathers side of the family didn’t keep as solid of records as my mothers side.  It is certainly possible, but I would honestly say it is just as likely that he purchased it from someone a very long time ago.  50/50 really. 

Fuzzbucket,
thanks for the info, that makes a lot of sense.

Chip,
Thank you for the link!  I can’t believe it is worth so much.  :o  That one being sold is in far worse condition than mine.  Good to know.

Lister,
Thanks for the video.   It’s cool to see where it came from.


Thank You to everyone who posted.  I knew that someone on here would have something to say about it but honestly I am so surprised that you guys had such good info to share, and so fast as well. 
Just to reiterate, I am really happy to get this knife.   About a year or two ago, the same Uncle forgot to empty his pockets and bag before rushing to catch a flight and ended up getting 9 pocket knives taken by the TSA!  My Aunt tells the story about being so embarrassed that they kept finding more knives like it was a comedy sketch. :facepalm:  Needless to say, I am very glad that this was NOT one of the knives he was carrying that day. 
 
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Fuzzbucket on September 14, 2019, 12:09:57 PM
...

Just to reiterate, I am really happy to get this knife.   About a year or two ago, the same Uncle forgot to empty his pockets and bag before rushing to catch a flight and ended up getting 9 pocket knives taken by the TSA!  My Aunt tells the story about being so embarrassed that they kept finding more knives like it was a comedy sketch. :facepalm:  Needless to say, I am very glad that this was NOT one of the knives he was carrying that day.

 :rofl:  :rofl:...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Aloha on September 14, 2019, 03:14:09 PM
9 knives,  :hatsoff:.
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Huntsman on September 14, 2019, 04:14:40 PM
Nine knives  :cry:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: pfrsantos on September 25, 2019, 06:01:33 PM
Nine knives?!

(https://i.giphy.com/media/3ohnEIlPb6lcuvdpKM/giphy.webp)

Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 25, 2019, 07:26:53 PM
That, sir, is a WWII folding pilot survival knife. Very nice.


 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

 :o :o :o :o :o :o

About a year or two ago, the same Uncle forgot to empty his pockets and bag before rushing to catch a flight and ended up getting 9 pocket knives taken by the TSA!  My Aunt tells the story about being so embarrassed that they kept finding more knives like it was a comedy sketch. :facepalm:  Needless to say, I am very glad that this was NOT one of the knives he was carrying that day.

Your uncle is a legend.  :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: Aloha on September 26, 2019, 06:06:24 AM
TSA is still talking about that story.  I'll soon become 15 then 40 knives when the story makes the rounds  :rofl:
Title: Re: Family heirloom
Post by: comis on September 26, 2019, 06:39:03 AM
Nine knives?!

(https://i.giphy.com/media/3ohnEIlPb6lcuvdpKM/giphy.webp)


:iagree: