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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: Aloha on February 12, 2015, 06:54:49 PM
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I have a bladder system 3L but for shorter hikes I find it unnecessary but damn convenient. If I'm gonna be out for more than 3 hours then easy call I'll bring it. If I'm out less than 3 hours I like to bring 1 liter or my 40oz SS bottle. This is all dependent on weather of course.
If I'm out just trekking about with out time or miles concerns then out comes the 3L bladder system. I always rather have more water than needed than need water.
My question tho was mostly due to my shorter hikes and trail time. I was curious what y'all did.
So what do you carry and how much?
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GI canteen and a plastic bottle
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Ah, yes. I love water talks.
I used to carry a 2l Camelback in the Mule Bag.
If it's an hour or so I'll take a 32oz Nalgene.
If it's anything more than an hour I'll take the nalgene AND camelback.
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I so prefer water bottles to water bladders. I just like the subjective drinking experience better. The bladders are more efficient and carry better so that's my trade off.
If I have the luxury of not needing a lot of water (and I'm not trail running), I go with SS or Sigg water bottle. Otherwise, it's a bladder. :-\
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I usually carry a 1 litre SS bottle or Gerber Bear Grylls canteen (its actually a very good plastic canteen) on short hikes.
On longer hikes I usually carry both and one or more 1,5l disposable water bottles, depending on how many days Im out, if there is little drinking water in the area.
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I so prefer water bottles to water bladders. I just like the subjective drinking experience better. The bladders are more efficient and carry better so that's my trade off.
If I have the luxury of not needing a lot of water (and I'm not trail running), I go with SS or Sigg water bottle. Otherwise, it's a bladder. :-\
See this is the thing for me too. I like drinking from water bottles vs bladder as well. I dont mind using the Nalgene type bottle I have or the SS one but good ole water bottles are still so much easier and familiar.
I also dont like cleaning the bladder ( yes I do clean it ) vs a hot water soaping and reusing of water bottles or containers.
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Never did get along with bladders so I always use a bottle. However I don't like using the in-built mesh carriers you get on most packs as they're almost always next to impossible to use with the pack still on. With that in mind I've taken to finding a few ways of suspending a bottle from my pack's waist strap.
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I like reusing soda bottles, both in work and out nature. I can not see point in those bladder systems, for me atleast.
On a hot day out, it is nice to freeze little water in bottle, so it gives cool water for a good time. And if bottle breaks, i am not losing whole lot money on it.
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If I need more than a 1L nalgene, then I go with a 3L bladder as well. As Gareth said, "water bottle holders" on most packs are inaccessible. So if I'm using a pack that I can't easily sling on and off, the bladder is really helpful.
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Never did get along with bladders so I always use a bottle. However I don't like using the in-built mesh carriers you get on most packs as they're almost always next to impossible to use with the pack still on. With that in mind I've taken to finding a few ways of suspending a bottle from my pack's waist strap.
I use a SS bottle or a Plastic Kelty bottle and put ice cubes inside when the weather is hot. I use paracord to sling it over my shoulder or use a messenger bag shoulder strap to hold it since the SS ones have the top that is a D ring. I'd like to see how you carry yours.
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We use a couple of stainless Klean Kanteens
(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/DazMechanical/697DCF66-0B86-47BB-939D-0F180624F158_zpsarmic5e5.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/DazMechanical/media/697DCF66-0B86-47BB-939D-0F180624F158_zpsarmic5e5.jpg.html)
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Love the green bottle. I like the flat top of the other one with the bail thing on top.
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I have a small daypack with a 2L bladder built in. Mostly gets used on trailbile rides but has also done hiking duty.
I have a couple of canteens on my hunting webbing.
Short walks I just grab a plastic bottle of water.
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Love the green bottle. I like the flat top of the other one with the bail thing on top.
Thanks :tu: the green one is my wife's, the flat top also has a bamboo insert on top which is pretty cool!
(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah42/DazMechanical/E4B26AFE-CB13-4DF3-91B4-5E7ACCC11C57_zpspxgz3ggv.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/DazMechanical/media/E4B26AFE-CB13-4DF3-91B4-5E7ACCC11C57_zpspxgz3ggv.jpg.html)
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I have two Camelbak Better Bottles. BPA-free. I hate stopping to get a drink so I'm trying to figure out a way to wear one in a Camelbak holster on my front. Balances the weight a little better too. You can even get a tube which fits on them so you can drink from it like a bladder.
I don't fancy bladders, harder to clean and bottles are easier to refill in a stream.
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Never did get along with bladders so I always use a bottle. However I don't like using the in-built mesh carriers you get on most packs as they're almost always next to impossible to use with the pack still on. With that in mind I've taken to finding a few ways of suspending a bottle from my pack's waist strap.
I use a SS bottle or a Plastic Kelty bottle and put ice cubes inside when the weather is hot. I use paracord to sling it over my shoulder or use a messenger bag shoulder strap to hold it since the SS ones have the top that is a D ring. I'd like to see how you carry yours.
Not at home right now to take a pic, but here's the carrier I've got on my pack at the minute: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LSFF8FS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1Q6V8LD7M02X2&coliid=I36J27N9UQXF60
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(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/syncop8r/Casey-Binser/MolleVestSetup764x1024.jpg) (http://s529.photobucket.com/user/syncop8r/media/Casey-Binser/MolleVestSetup764x1024.jpg.html)
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@Daz, that's an even cooler top that I expected. It wouldn't seem like much but a flat top with that bale is sweet.
@Gareth and Sync, the bottle holder is something I'm going to look at. My roommate will totally dig this for herself and her Nalgene.
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I have a few diff ways to carry, I have a bladder/backpack, that's my like last way to carry water. I hate warm water, I gotta have it ice cold. Even around the house I use a stainless steel water bottle, after so many diff kinds I've stuck with hydroflask, winter time only the 21oz, but spring, summer, and fall the 40oz keeps my drinks ice cold for 24hrs, even have my own ice setup! I have a pouch that will fit onto my bag via Molle so I don't have to lug two diff things around. If it's one thing I can say I'm set with its water carry!
JR
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As a rule I don't spend much money on my water bottles/carriers because I always manage to lose them. You can find a plethora of stainless steel water bottles at thrift stores for dirt cheap $.50-$2.00. And if you're persistent you can find a real deal. I found a near new insulated 3L camelback for $5. I regularly keep a half gallon of water in the car along with at least 2 full stainless steel water bottles.
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As a rule I don't spend much money on my water bottles/carriers because I always manage to lose them. You can find a plethora of stainless steel water bottles at thrift stores for dirt cheap $.50-$2.00. And if you're persistent you can find a real deal. I found a near new insulated 3L camelback for $5. I regularly keep a half gallon of water in the caralong with at least 2 full stainless steel water bottles.
It should be a law that come summer time one has to keep a simple gallon jug of water in the trunk or backseat, Grant it, it's going to be nastily hot but it's still fluid to put down in case of an emergency dehydration! My neighbor used to keep one in, I used to have a few bottles but I always forgot and they froze..
JR
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As a rule I don't spend much money on my water bottles/carriers because I always manage to lose them. You can find a plethora of stainless steel water bottles at thrift stores for dirt cheap $.50-$2.00. And if you're persistent you can find a real deal. I found a near new insulated 3L camelback for $5. I regularly keep a half gallon of water in the caralong with at least 2 full stainless steel water bottles.
It should be a law that come summer time one has to keep a simple gallon jug of water in the trunk or backseat, Grant it, it's going to be nastily hot but it's still fluid to put down in case of an emergency dehydration! My neighbor used to keep one in, I used to have a few bottles but I always forgot and they froze..
JR
Much agreed. I can't tell you how many times I was parched and wish I had anything to drink. Packing that 1/2 gallon has saved my butt many times. And as far as being hot. It's not my favorite way to drink water but hey it's still wet ::) .
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As a rule I don't spend much money on my water bottles/carriers because I always manage to lose them. You can find a plethora of stainless steel water bottles at thrift stores for dirt cheap $.50-$2.00. And if you're persistent you can find a real deal. I found a near new insulated 3L camelback for $5. I regularly keep a half gallon of water in the caralong with at least 2 full stainless steel water bottles.
It should be a law that come summer time one has to keep a simple gallon jug of water in the trunk or backseat, Grant it, it's going to be nastily hot but it's still fluid to put down in case of an emergency dehydration! My neighbor used to keep one in, I used to have a few bottles but I always forgot and they froze..
JR
Much agreed. I can't tell you how many times I was parched and wish I had anything to drink. Packing that 1/2 gallon has saved my butt many times. And as far as being hot. It's not my favorite way to drink water but hey it's still wet ::) .
So true, even if warm still makes for a good head drench.
JR
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After reading through these posts I really need to work on my h20 carry.
Now I just take a few cokes sometimes juice or tes and a liter of water.
I got to camelback backpacks and I've never had a bladder :facepalm:
The spot for it is where I carry my fixed bade or hatchet and fire making supplies.
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Cheap stainless steel water bottle that I get printed up with my business logo. I just take one out of stock for my cupboard. If I lose it, it will still function as advertising. It has a screw top with a ring, and a drinking spout top. It also fits nicely in the bike's carrier, and the truck's drink holder.
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I got 2 sizes of insulated SS water bottles. For a day hike, the small one will have hot coffee, the large one cold water and ice. The coffee stays to hot to drink from the bottle, So you need a cup.
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After reading through these posts I really need to work on my h20 carry.
Now I just take a few cokes sometimes juice or tes and a liter of water.
I got to camelback backpacks and I've never had a bladder :facepalm:
The spot for it is where I carry my fixed bade or hatchet and fire making supplies.
You're going the Ray Jardine route of carrying ultra light
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I've not been on a decent hike for too long :(
Primary choice for me was usually military canteens (2 x 1 litre), but I have since upgraded to a Travel Tap filtration bottle, which means I can replenish on the go. The Travel Tap has an insulated carrier with shoulder strap, and I have a neoprene insulating jacket with shoulder strap for the mil canteen too. I also quite like the Source Liquitainer as a secondary carry method as this can be folded up when empty.
Favourite method of boiling water for a hot drink is still the Jetboil PCS.
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Anyone used a Life Straw? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/15/9921f849617e99b1a3191f08d4fadf6b.jpg)
For 20 USD they are fairly cheap and portable for emergencies. It could very easily eliminate some water emergencies
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Ordered another Nalgene Today. Boss man is phasing out water bottles and has switched to the water jugs and water coolers. Yay.
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Anyone used a Life Straw? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/15/9921f849617e99b1a3191f08d4fadf6b.jpg)
For 20 USD they are fairly cheap and portable for emergencies. It could very easily eliminate some water emergencies
I have one (albeit of a different brand), but thankfully not been in a situation where i've had to use it
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Anyone used a Life Straw? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/15/9921f849617e99b1a3191f08d4fadf6b.jpg)
For 20 USD they are fairly cheap and portable for emergencies. It could very easily eliminate some water emergencies
I have one (albeit of a different brand), but thankfully not been in a situation where i've had to use it
I have a different brand version as well (Aquamira). I usually just use Aquamira drops, but I keep this with me in case I come across murky water. I've only used it on some tap water so far, but spring's coming :)
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I also have an Aquamira water filter, only used it on tap water to test it out, the first sip was full of black crap, probably some loose carbon, other than that it seems to work ok. Never actually needed to use it though.
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I carry water in an insulated water bottle of Gerber Bear Grylls.
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a good ole hydration bladder in the back pack
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I sometimes carry a metal bottle, but usually just chuck a heap of disposable plastic bottles in my bag. I wash and re-use them until they can't be re-used any more.
For every-day use at work they'll last about 3 weeks or so.
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The problem with disposable plastic bottles is that (supposedly) they break down (in sunlight?) and release carcinogenic chemicals into the water.
I use BPA-free plastic bottles. Apparently BPA is also in canned foods as well.
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Anyone used a Life Straw?
For 20 USD they are fairly cheap and portable for emergencies. It could very easily eliminate some water emergencies
I got 2 kept in different bags, as well as those Aquamira drops.
I bought some ISOSteel water bottles recently, hunted for SS ones thanks to the survival shows & internet advice........but :whistle: BIG BUT....
Since I started using them I vowed never to drink from a plastic bottle again....don't miss that taste at all.
My only complaint is the simple & durable types seem to be limited to 750ml, so I need 4 at the very least.
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The problem with disposable plastic bottles is that (supposedly) they break down (in sunlight?) and release carcinogenic chemicals into the water.
I use BPA-free plastic bottles. Apparently BPA is also in canned foods as well.
Well they're not in sunlight and they could have been holding water for ages anyway if they were still sealed?
I think the thing that's probably worse for me is storing frozen food portions in old plastic butter containers and then microwaving them.
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I hire local villagers to carry my water supply. :rofl:
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I hire local villagers to carry my water supply. :rofl:
Well, there you go. :D
I have a stainless steel water bottle branded Subzero, but it looks about like any other stainless steel water bottle. If I forget that, I'll just reuse a 20oz plastic soda bottle. I was just telling my hubby on our hike the other day that I wished the lid to my water bottle would allow me to carry it with two fingers through the handle instead of just one. After a while, that starts hurting. Maybe I could tie a thin loop of cordage on the handle, and put that parcel hook on my Super Tinker to some good use. :whistle:
This sounds a lot less funny the more I think about it...
It might just be me being behind the times of tech, but I find the whole notion of water bladders REALLY gross. They always just seem to me to be designed to breed funk. Maybe the design is great for soldiers in a war zone. I think they're frankly stupidly complex for day to day civilian use. Not that I have an opinion or anything. :D
Now, a question for those who might know: I have some slight rust developing in the bottom of my stainless steel water bottle. Any good ideas for getting it out? I was thinking maybe water with sand in it and just swirl it around for a while, then a thorough cleaning? Otherwise it's just recycle it and get a new one, at the exorbitant price of $5!!!!
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Trekking for 4-5 hours aprox. 20 kms.
1 liter of water in plastic bottle + 0,5 liters of isotonic drink
In very hot summer perhaps 1,5 l water+ 0,5 l isotonic
And I hate camelbacks. I can, t with them. Smells and I can't suck properly.
3 liters I think is way excessive for my needs, I try to adjust to go light.
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Lynn, have you tried leaving some coca-cola in the bottom of your bottle overnight to remove the rust? Works for MTs so I can't see why it wouldn't work :D
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I hadn't thought of that. Nice idea, and i might give it a go. Thanks. :salute:
Absolute worst case, it ruins the bottle, which would still be no big deal.
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Lynn the bladders are a breeding ground for all sorts of yucky stuff including off tasting water. There are many cleaning methods and several work terrific. I have not had issues myself but I know some people do with regards to taste and grossness.
Denture cleaners, diluted bleach, lemon/lime, fizzy cleaners, camelbak tablets, baking soda, are all idea's and current solutions. I personally consume many bottles of water on longer ( 4+ hours ) hikes so the bladders are ideal for me. I have a 40oz stainless steel bottle thats terrific for shorter travels.
As with anything keeping tidy with the bladders and proper drying are key.
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To avoid taste in camelbacks, people use the freezer (one night inside)