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Title: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 12:10:23 PM
A Tesla Roadster, specifically Elon Musk's personal one. Playing Space Oddity on the stereo.  :rofl:
(https://cdn.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Elon-red-Roadster.jpg)

On top of one of these, if it doesn't blow up.  :drool:
(Its the first test flight. :ahhh )
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Launch is supposed to be sometime in Jan. :dd:

And they're gonna try to land the boosters while their at it, if the rocket doesn't blow up.  :o
This, x3.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/LeftCircularAphid

Even if it blows up on launchpad, this is going to be spectacular to watch.  :o
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on December 21, 2017, 12:16:53 PM
So they're going to clutter Mars' orbit with earth junk even before we got there?
You'd think they've learned...
:facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
 :facepalm:
That's the thing you focus on?  ::)
Mars orbit is long. Really really really long. Like 750,000,000 km long. It will just look like one of the many rocks already there...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 12:34:50 PM
Space junk is only a problem if it clutters up a small area, like parts of Earth orbit, and SpaceX is already more conscious of the problem than the other rocket makers...
They don't leave any rocket bits in earth orbit! :angel:

Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Marc_in_NS on December 21, 2017, 06:00:02 PM
What are you two space cadets up to?
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 07:19:31 PM
I don't know about Nick, but I want to see either a big boom (high enough to not kill the launch pad), or a bunch of reused rocket boosters landing at the same time like in a sci fi movie.  :drool:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on December 21, 2017, 08:16:35 PM
So they're going to clutter Mars' orbit with earth junk even before we got there?
You'd think they've learned...
:facepalm:

+1 We aren't done littering our own planet yet.

I think it's idiotic.  :P
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on December 21, 2017, 08:56:17 PM
Space junk is only a problem if it clutters up a small area, like parts of Earth orbit, and SpaceX is already more conscious of the problem than the other rocket makers...
They don't leave any rocket bits in earth orbit! :angel:
It's a problem around earth already and it might not seem a problem in Mars' orbit right now, keep in mind that at some point in history someone said "it's not a problem, there's plenty of room up there"

What if you send a 300M$ mars orbiter out there, only to have it explode 2 days later because Musk's Tesla colided with it?

And why the F?
People getting killed in the middle east. Opression in Asia, Hunger in Africa... let's shoot a Tesla into space...

Outragious...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on December 21, 2017, 10:13:08 PM
I think we are on the same page here Nick, it's just a huge waste of resources. Whatever CO2 emissions those silly cars have not produced all get spewed back into the atmosphere in an huge egotistic display of idiocy, maybe more.

Absurd.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 10:32:55 PM
So lets send a big bag 'o sand instead.  :salute:
This rocket is not going to test itself with a payload of air you know, it needs a dummy payload, and this car is good because it gets more people interested than with a bag of sand.  :pok: ::)

Anyway, I think I'll let this thread go quiet then. Whats happening now rivals the space race of old, and for those of us too young to remember it, it is very inspiring. I had though that I would find like-minded individuals here.
Humans need something to aspire for, in order not to stagnate. Social progress doesn't come from stagnation.
Renewable energy, Medical technology, Safety, Ecological monitoring, and so many other things wouldn't be as advanced as they are without the space industry.
The space industry drives advancement, for relatively little extra pollution and etc.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/Benefits-Stemming-from-Space-Exploration-2013-TAGGED.pdf

Anyway, maybe step back?  :-[
Sorry.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on December 21, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
No worries Pabs, in fact I remember the space program when I was a kid, and it was a worthy project and advanced humanity in a spectacular way, but launching a stupid car as a publicity stunt? Not so much. It is a curiosity if nothing else, and glad you posted it!  :cheers:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 11:01:17 PM
No worries Pabs, in fact I remember the space program when I was a kid, and it was a worthy project and advanced humanity in a spectacular way, but launching a stupid car as a publicity stunt? Not so much. It is a curiosity if nothing else, and glad you posted it!  :cheers:
In this instance, it's a toss up between the high-tech equivalent of a bag of sand, or something cool.  :whistle:
The rocket requires a dummy payload for this test flight, and it's too likely to blow up (first flight and everything) for loading it up with a scientific payload.  :think:
And sometimes PR is nice for getting people interested.   :rofl:

SpaceX(more specifically Elon) is also downplaying the odds of this launch succeeding(it's about 50-70%), to prevent large disappointment in case of Booooom happening.  ;)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on December 21, 2017, 11:03:30 PM
Maybe we could gather all the cap crimper MT's and send them?  :D
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 21, 2017, 11:14:26 PM
Nah, probably too heavy, since there's so many.  :whistle:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on December 21, 2017, 11:56:28 PM
Probably right.  :facepalm:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: ironraven on December 22, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
a bunch of reused rocket boosters landing at the same time like in a sci fi movie.  :drool:

That is what I'm waiting for.

I think this is just Mr Musk calling dibs on the best parking spot.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on December 22, 2017, 02:22:52 AM
a bunch of reused rocket boosters landing at the same time like in a sci fi movie.  :drool:

That is what I'm waiting for.

I think this is just Mr Musk calling dibs on the best parking spot.
The parking fees are going to be astronomical though.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: ironraven on December 22, 2017, 03:50:02 AM
Just had a thought.

Mars need global warming. So Musk has the right idea, he's just doing it badly.

Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on December 22, 2017, 07:19:27 AM
Don't get me wrong Pabs, I'd be very impressed if they reach Mars' orbit.

Yet every single day we get to hear on the news how we, regular cilvilians, are the cause of global warming and that we should avoid travelling by plane.
This, while world leaders travel by a plane for themselves and we get crammed with 199 other people into an aluminum can.
We should stop eating meat, turn down the heather, sort out our trash etc...
Yet, every now and then they launch a missile that will generate more pollution then a city can in a lifetime.

They send a car into space which probably costs more then my house.
Imagine what that funds could do here on earth.
Fix the problems here before venturing further into space. The deepest crevaces in the oceans have not been explore yet since we aren't able to go there, but we already think about visiting other planets.

So no, I am not against space travel!
I do think we have different priorities right now. And if SpaceX want to launch a missile, fine, just do something usefull with it.
A bag of sand may sound stupid, but one day you might be able to drop it on Mars and use it to grow crops with...

Just my 2c.

So once again Pablo, I'm not against space travel and/or technology.
I AM against a waste of recources while there're still so many problems to be solved here. ;)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on December 22, 2017, 09:16:46 AM
a bunch of reused rocket boosters landing at the same time like in a sci fi movie.  :drool:

That is what I'm waiting for.

I think this is just Mr Musk calling dibs on the best parking spot.
The parking fees are going to be astronomical though.  :facepalm:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: lister on December 22, 2017, 09:47:31 AM
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Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: pomsbz on December 22, 2017, 09:52:34 AM
I'm sorry but I find this foolish and irresponsible. The last thing we need to do is in any way stir up any trouble with Mars. Have we learnt nothing from War of the Worlds? They will have developed vaccinations by now!!!!
  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on January 31, 2018, 12:09:15 PM
February 6.  :ahhh
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on January 31, 2018, 12:09:46 PM
I'm sorry but I find this foolish and irresponsible. The last thing we need to do is in any way stir up any trouble with Mars. Have we learnt nothing from War of the Worlds? They will have developed vaccinations by now!!!!
  :facepalm:
Good thing it’s giving mars a wiiiiide berth
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Steinar on January 31, 2018, 09:54:10 PM
The idea that the launch is a publicity stunt gives me a headache. The car is a stunt, of course, but the launch is simply a high risk, full scale test of the rocket, where nobody in their right minds would send their actual payload. Elon Musk has stated any outcome where they don't damage the launch ramp is a success. (The site is historically important and the only place on US soil to launch manned flights.)

Pablo tried explaining this, but I just wanted to chime in to state I don't believe there is a viable future without space exploration.

Just to put current cost of space travel in perspective: If you found a way to turn lead into gold in low Earth orbit, it would not be cost effective.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on January 31, 2018, 10:32:42 PM
The idea that the launch is a publicity stunt gives me a headache. The car is a stunt, of course, but the launch is simply a high risk, full scale test of the rocket, where nobody in their right minds would send their actual payload. Elon Musk has stated any outcome where they don't damage the launch ramp is a success. (The site is historically important and the only place on US soil to launch manned flights.)

Pablo tried explaining this, but I just wanted to chime in to state I don't believe there is a viable future without space exploration.

Just to put current cost of space travel in perspective: If you found a way to turn lead into gold in low Earth orbit, it would not be cost effective.
Thanks for explaining the car bit.   :cheers:
Also, keep in mind that this car cost $100,000 back in 2009, and it has gone through 9 years of use and depreciation. I’m not saying that it’s cheap, but that it costs less than you awl probably think it does. 9 years is a good life for any car.

Oh and Steinar, I’m of a similar opinion regarding the necessity of access to space.
If we run out of resources on Earth, we’re sunk or crippled. Helium is an interesting example.

The space shuttle was supposed to make access to space cheap and easy, but for various reasons it ended up being practically the most expensive way to launch something into space.  :facepalm:
What could have been.....

SpaceX have already proven:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on January 31, 2018, 11:04:09 PM
If we run out of resources, it's because we waisted it on launching missiles and building parts that are shot away from our planet...

Imagine what that money, fuel and rare materials could do here on earth...


What if space exploration stopped tomorrow?
We'd all live our lives...
Yet it costs bilions.

Again, fix the problems here before venturing out there.
It's like bringing your car to the garage to try and find a sollution for it's fuel consumption while you know there's a water pipe blowing water out on your attic.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on January 31, 2018, 11:50:57 PM
In case you didn’t notice, SpaceXs entire foundation is that they aren’t throwing missiles away, they’re reusing them.  :angel: :pok:

You aren’t thinking large scale enough.  :D
We may be able to go all “eco” and everything, but there is a very finite supply of resources on earth.
Take helium, it’s critical as a oolant for medical equipment and such, but we’re running out of it.  :ahhh
Helium on Earth is made via the radioactive decay of various elements, in the form of alpha radiation. If fossil fuels are a non- renewable resource, Helium is doubley so.
It’s possible to replace most fossil fuels with alternatives, smurf natural gas is just Methane, and we can make that in abundance if we have a supply of green or nuclear power. But I’m not aware of a viable alternative for helium in medical equipment, but there’s oodles of it elsewhere in the solar system.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Ron Who on February 01, 2018, 06:23:11 AM
I don´t think space programs are a waste of money. Without them, we would have no cell phones or GPS.

And regarding waste of materials, there are several companies already planning for asteroid belt mining. A good idea because we are certain to deplete the earth sooner or later. Think of the rain forests being cut down so we can grow soy and mine materials for our batteries.

PS Asteroid belt mining on a truely massive scale may cause a redistribution of mass throughout the solar system such that the effects make global warming look loke kiddy stuff.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 01, 2018, 10:07:20 AM
PS Asteroid belt mining on a truely massive scale may cause a redistribution of mass throughout the solar system such that the effects make global warming look loke kiddy stuff.
I’m not sure about that, it sounds a bit “out there”. The total mass of the belt is apparently 4% of our moon. And it’s distributed all along the belts orbit.
My take is that it has very little to negligible effect on the other bodies in the solar system, to the point that if you waved a magic wand and made it disappear, nothing would happen.

I can see something exciting happening to Jupiter’s(or Saturn’s, etc) moons if you brought the entire asteroid belt there, but I think that we’re clever enough to not do that.  ;)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 01, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
One more thing.
You say we can find alternative sources of energy, yet we need to venture out into space in search of Helium because there is no alternative to that?
Sounds like quite a lame excuse :pok:

Resources running out require actions to spend them well.
Spending them well doesn't mean "shoot them into space and hope that one day we'll find more then enough up there"
'Cause if you don't fined anything there, you would have pushed everyone deeper down the hole.

And keep in mind, oil is not only used for power and propulsion.
It's also a resource for other materials like plastics.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: ThePeacent on February 01, 2018, 12:38:27 PM
PS Asteroid belt mining on a truely massive scale may cause a redistribution of mass throughout the solar system such that the effects make global warming look loke kiddy stuff.


I can see something exciting happening to Jupiter’s(or Saturn’s, etc) moons if you brought the entire asteroid belt there, but I think that we’re clever enough to not do that.  ;)

no, of course. Like the Amazon, the Aral sea or the Uyuni Salt Desert, we're well known for stopping at the slightest hint of overexploitation of natural  places  :twak:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 01, 2018, 01:02:30 PM
PS Asteroid belt mining on a truely massive scale may cause a redistribution of mass throughout the solar system such that the effects make global warming look loke kiddy stuff.


I can see something exciting happening to Jupiter’s(or Saturn’s, etc) moons if you brought the entire asteroid belt there, but I think that we’re clever enough to not do that.  ;)

no, of course. Like the Amazon, the Aral sea or the Uyuni Salt Desert, we're well known for stopping at the slightest hint of overexploitation of natural  places  :twak:
Spoken like we can move an entire asteroid belt out of greed.  :D
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 01, 2018, 02:07:12 PM
One more thing.
You say we can find alternative sources of energy, yet we need to venture out into space in search of Helium because there is no alternative to that?
Sounds like quite a lame excuse :pok:

Resources running out require actions to spend them well.
Spending them well doesn't mean "shoot them into space and hope that one day we'll find more then enough up there"
'Cause if you don't fined anything there, you would have pushed everyone deeper down the hole.

And keep in mind, oil is not only used for power and propulsion.
It's also a resource for other materials like plastics.
The helium was just one example, and heaven knows we have plenty in Jupiter and Saturn.  :D
Nevermind it for now.

I think that your “waste of resources” argument could be better directed at other, better, things. :think:
Consider, anually, we spend about 100 to 200 billion dollars (my estimate) on space activities. Sounds big right? Well.... that’s the USA, Europe, China, Russia, etc combined. It includes comercial enterprises, which are spending money on space for proft(TV, weather, internet, etc)
As a percentage of the global economy, it’s just a few tenths of a percent, like 0.2%. :sa:
But a sizeable part is military related, which brings me to my next point.

The annual global military spending is around $1000 billion dollars, mostly by governments not expecting a profit or monetary return on their spending.
That could be very useful if it was spent on other things. :pok:

In any case, I’m not saying that your argument is wrong, just that there are other “more useless” things that we should redirect spending from before we look at cutting space spending. Low hanging fruit and all that.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 01, 2018, 03:05:37 PM
The way I see it, you don't go spending your money and time looking for a second home because your first home needs some work done to it ...

Has our throw-away society come that far that we're actually considering a new "home planet" because the old one wasn't covered under warranty due to misuse or lack of proper maintenance ...  ::)

I know that Elon Musk is aware of the global problems, and that there are many, many who are far worse than him.  But that's just why I would rather see him use his "SpaceX budget" to create an affordable electric car that runs for more than 300 miles on one battery charge, instead of producing these ego boosting sportcars for men who suffer from small thingy syndrome ...

I'm aware that Tesla is going to produce a more affordable electric car in the near future, but it will still be quite expensive and it will still have a very small action radius (compaired to a "normal" car), I think they (Tesla) can do better than that.  And I believe it would be a far bigger PR stunt when they would be the first to produce an electric car that has the same action radius as a regular car, for the same price as a regular car ...

Spend your money on that Elon  :pok:.

Just my humble opinion, as always  ;).
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 01, 2018, 03:08:16 PM
Now that we're running out of Helium, does this mean we can't use it to make our voice sound funny anymore ... ?
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 01, 2018, 03:13:00 PM
The way I see it, you don't go spending your money and time looking for a second home because your first home needs some work done to it ...

Has our throw-away society come that far that we're actually considering a new "home planet" because the old one wasn't covered under warranty due to misuse or lack of proper maintenance ...  ::)

I know that Elon Musk is aware of the global problems, and that there are many, many who are far worse than him.  But that's just why I would rather see him use his "SpaceX budget" to create an affordable electric car that runs for more than 300 miles on one battery charge, instead of producing these ego boosting sportcars for men who suffer from small thingy syndrome ...

I'm aware that Tesla is going to produce a more affordable electric car in the near future, but it will still be quite expensive and it will still have a very small action radius (compaired to a "normal" car), I think they (Tesla) can do better than that.  And I believe it would be a far bigger PR stunt when they would be the first to produce an electric car that has the same action radius as a regular car, for the same price as a regular car ...

Spend your money on that Elon  :pok:.

Just my humble opinion, as always  ;).
10 years ago, no one knew about Tesla or SpaceX.
Are you criticising them for not moving fast enough?  :P
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 01, 2018, 03:44:38 PM
The way I see it, you don't go spending your money and time looking for a second home because your first home needs some work done to it ...

Has our throw-away society come that far that we're actually considering a new "home planet" because the old one wasn't covered under warranty due to misuse or lack of proper maintenance ...  ::)

I know that Elon Musk is aware of the global problems, and that there are many, many who are far worse than him.  But that's just why I would rather see him use his "SpaceX budget" to create an affordable electric car that runs for more than 300 miles on one battery charge, instead of producing these ego boosting sportcars for men who suffer from small thingy syndrome ...

I'm aware that Tesla is going to produce a more affordable electric car in the near future, but it will still be quite expensive and it will still have a very small action radius (compaired to a "normal" car), I think they (Tesla) can do better than that.  And I believe it would be a far bigger PR stunt when they would be the first to produce an electric car that has the same action radius as a regular car, for the same price as a regular car ...

Spend your money on that Elon  :pok:.

Just my humble opinion, as always  ;).
10 years ago, no one knew about Tesla or SpaceX.
Are you criticising them for not moving fast enough?  :P

On the contrary, I expect more from them. 

And I would have liked to have an affordable long range electric car now and the SpaceX program somewhere in the next 20 years instead of the other way around  ;).

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Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 01, 2018, 04:00:19 PM
The way I see it, you don't go spending your money and time looking for a second home because your first home needs some work done to it ...

Has our throw-away society come that far that we're actually considering a new "home planet" because the old one wasn't covered under warranty due to misuse or lack of proper maintenance ...  ::)

I know that Elon Musk is aware of the global problems, and that there are many, many who are far worse than him.  But that's just why I would rather see him use his "SpaceX budget" to create an affordable electric car that runs for more than 300 miles on one battery charge, instead of producing these ego boosting sportcars for men who suffer from small thingy syndrome ...

I'm aware that Tesla is going to produce a more affordable electric car in the near future, but it will still be quite expensive and it will still have a very small action radius (compaired to a "normal" car), I think they (Tesla) can do better than that.  And I believe it would be a far bigger PR stunt when they would be the first to produce an electric car that has the same action radius as a regular car, for the same price as a regular car ...

Spend your money on that Elon  :pok:.

Just my humble opinion, as always  ;).
10 years ago, no one knew about Tesla or SpaceX.
Are you criticising them for not moving fast enough?  :P

On the contrary, I expect more from them. 

And I would have liked to have an affordable long range electric car now and the SpaceX program somewhere in the next 20 years instead of the other way around  ;).

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Keep in mind that if SpaceX didn’t exist, Tesla would be roughly at the same stage of development. SpaceX is a completely separate company that isn’t holding Tesla back. It ain’t a case of “one or the other”.

Anyway, if everyone’s going to drive Electric cars, where’s the resources for all the batteries going to come from?
If we want to keep our rainforests and countryside, we’re going to need space mining.

I’m not proposing to abandon Earth. I’m proposing to use space resources to help save Earth as we know it.  :salute:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: pfrsantos on February 01, 2018, 04:06:42 PM
February 6.  :ahhh

Wow...

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 :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 01:34:37 AM
Launch scheduled for 18:30 today(Tuesday), GMT time.  :ahhh
Will post link to livestream.
One way or another, it’s gonna be a blaaaast if weather permits and there’s no bugs that stop the countdown.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: gerleatherberman on February 06, 2018, 05:37:09 AM
Can't wait to see Musk's ego orbiting Mars! Earth orbit just isn't  enough to contain his ego anymore. :popcorn:
For the record, I am not stating any stance on Global issues and Space Travel, but I am saying Elon Musk is an egomaniac.  :whistle:

Edit: Thank you for the thread and updates, Pablo! :tu:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 09:43:59 AM
Can't wait to see Musk's ego orbiting Mars! Earth orbit just isn't  enough to contain his ego anymore. :popcorn:
For the record, I am not stating any stance on Global issues and Space Travel, but I am saying Elon Musk is an egomaniac.  :whistle:

Edit: Thank you for the thread and updates, Pablo! :tu:
Well they did base the movie version of Tony Stark on him.
Heck he even gets a camo in the second Iron Man movie. :rofl:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 06, 2018, 10:31:24 AM
So he'll blast us all to hell before rising up as our saviour?

Sounds legit :whistle:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Kev D on February 06, 2018, 12:15:21 PM
There's a bit about it on the bbc new website this morning

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42950957
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Whoey on February 06, 2018, 12:19:20 PM
you'd think they'd send a payload of something that might be actually useful to mars... you know, like seed vaults
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 12:49:11 PM
you'd think they'd send a payload of something that might be actually useful to mars... you know, like seed vaults
It's going to Mars' heliocentric orbit, not "mars mars" orbit. Sending a seed vault or anything scientifically useful to a place millions of miles from the nearest planet is odd, to put it mildly. :)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 12:49:49 PM
There's a bit about it on the bbc new website this morning

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42950957
Pretty good article.  :tu:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: pfrsantos on February 06, 2018, 02:33:37 PM
you'd think they'd send a payload of something that might be actually useful to mars... you know, like seed vaults
It's going to Mars' heliocentric orbit, not "mars mars" orbit. Sending a seed vault or anything scientifically useful to a place millions of miles from the nearest planet is odd, to put it mildly. :)

Unlike puting a car in Mars' heliocentric orbit...

 :whistle:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 06, 2018, 02:47:25 PM
you'd think they'd send a payload of something that might be actually useful to mars... you know, like seed vaults
It's going to Mars' heliocentric orbit, not "mars mars" orbit. Sending a seed vault or anything scientifically useful to a place millions of miles from the nearest planet is odd, to put it mildly. :)

Unlike puting a car in Mars' heliocentric orbit...

 :whistle:

And to make things worse, an electrical car, miles away from a charging station ...  ::)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Kev D on February 06, 2018, 03:07:03 PM
Just more junk is space the aliens will judge us for  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Whoey on February 06, 2018, 03:26:00 PM
Just more junk is space the aliens will judge us for  :facepalm:
totally, and if he needs more space in his garage I'd gladly take that Tesla off his hands...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 06, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
Just more junk is space the aliens will judge us for  :facepalm:
totally, and if he needs more space in his garage I'd gladly take that Tesla off his hands...
Same here!
They can launch my car instead...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 06, 2018, 07:17:27 PM
I could've provided a car for that as well ... my boss'car.

(preferably with him stuffed in the trunk (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/simpsons/mr-burns-evil-laugh-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)).
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
It’s an 8 year old car......

Launch window delayed 2 hours
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 06, 2018, 07:44:56 PM
My own car is 7 years old and costed 9.6k new.
That Tesla is still worth more then that!


2hours delay??

Did they forget to charge the Tesla first? :rofl:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 06, 2018, 10:01:16 PM
Launch was succesfull...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 10:01:44 PM
The launch worked 100%!!!! All three rockets landed safely! :woohoo: :ahhh

faints
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Smashie on February 06, 2018, 10:03:46 PM
Probably the most significant launch since the shuttle, I'm happy I watched that  :tu:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 06, 2018, 10:07:48 PM
Probably the most significant launch since the shuttle, I'm happy I watched that  :tu:
Amen to that....   :cheers:


Especially since I wasn’t around to see the space shuttles’ maiden launch.  :D
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Steinar on February 06, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
 :dwts: :woohoo: :dd:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Reinier on February 06, 2018, 10:15:34 PM
OK that was awesome.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Syncop8r on February 06, 2018, 11:47:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRCGcuByQc
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
Overshot, the car is headed to the asteroid belt now.  :o
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 09:25:26 AM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 10:48:53 AM
It’s hard for me to I can’t imagine what a 40m tall cylinder falling out of the sky and plonking itself on a landing pad looks like. Much less two of them!  :ahhh  :salute:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Top-Gear-24 on February 07, 2018, 12:10:25 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )

Okay, I'll admit it ...

Show content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glkcrtO08XM
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Mechanickal on February 07, 2018, 12:49:58 PM
I have to admit, that was awesome.
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 12:57:42 PM
It reminds me of the 40’s and 50’s sci fi rockets....
:dd:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: pomsbz on February 07, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )

How the heck do they land those things upright?
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 04:26:44 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )

How the heck do they land those things upright?
Practice and smart autonomous software.
Still extremely  :o
 :o
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Reinier on February 07, 2018, 07:23:05 PM
Too bad they lost the center stage but still!
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 07, 2018, 07:31:40 PM
Too bad they lost the center stage but still!
we weren’t going to reuse it anyway  :whistle:  :P

But yeah, a hat trick would have been even more awesome....
Next time!
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: hiraethus on February 08, 2018, 02:26:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2tieyJC.png)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 08, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2tieyJC.png)
Careful with sharing that.  :P
The flat earth society used to mainly be a group of people pretending to believe that the Earth is flat. Then some people missed the joke.... you know where that lead to. :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: microbe on February 08, 2018, 11:30:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2tieyJC.png)
Careful with sharing that.  :P
The flat earth society used to mainly be a group of people pretending to believe that the Earth is flat. Then some people missed the joke.... you know where that lead to. :facepalm:

Flat Earth Society.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 09, 2018, 11:14:53 AM
A launch photo:
(https://i.redd.it/q744askfdue01.jpg)

:dd:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: pomsbz on February 09, 2018, 11:51:55 AM
A launch photo:


:dd:

That is some incredible photography!
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 09, 2018, 11:55:55 AM
A launch photo:


:dd:

That is some incredible photography!
Via a remote camera I believe.

 :drool:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 13, 2018, 12:42:40 PM
The signal was lost a couple of days ago, but heres the recording of what was the livestream on Feb 6th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: twiliter on February 13, 2018, 02:32:07 PM
The signal was lost a couple of days ago, but heres the recording of what was the livestream on Feb 6th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M

He's dead Jim...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on February 13, 2018, 02:40:47 PM
The signal was lost a couple of days ago, but heres the recording of what was the livestream on Feb 6th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M

He's dead Jim...
:rofl:

I think that they're trying to invoke another David Bowie song.
https://youtu.be/sI66hcu9fIs
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: lister on February 13, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
It reminds me of the 40’s and 50’s sci fi rockets....
:dd:

You monster! How dare you suggest that landing rockets are anything but the product of on brilliant mind and lovingly hand crafted by the Man Himself!  :twak: :twak:

 :D
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on March 19, 2018, 04:02:23 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )
Why did youtube take down that video? :facepalm:
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on March 19, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoH7LGvfk4
A launch video remix with "Space Oddity". :like:
Funny and sombre at the same time...
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Syncop8r on March 19, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )
Why did youtube take down that video? :facepalm:
No wonder I can no longer find it.  >:(
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on March 19, 2018, 10:40:45 PM
Video of the boosters landing:
https://youtu.be/Z_kfM-BmVzQ
(Its loud!  :pok: )
Why did youtube take down that video? :facepalm:
No wonder I can no longer find it.  >:(
Found someone who found a mirror!  :cheers:
https://youtu.be/VBlIvghQTlI
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on March 19, 2018, 10:42:53 PM
Cool image, of an older booster I think.  :like:
(https://i.stack.imgur.com/FYvrC.jpg)
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on April 12, 2019, 11:57:52 AM
Bump because of the second Falcon Heavy launch. :dd:

Short video showing the highlights: (Recommended!)
Show content
https://youtu.be/mY-fSnKTLqw

Full launch video: (lift-off at 19 minutes)
Show content
https://youtu.be/TXMGu2d8c8g
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Reinier on April 12, 2019, 01:25:09 PM
All three boosters recovered. This is so impressive!
Title: Re: A car is going to Mars (orbit)
Post by: Don Pablo on April 12, 2019, 01:32:17 PM
All three boosters recovered. This is so impressive!
Plus the payload fairings, which will also be reused. :clap:
So besides the satellite, the only major part from this launch that they won't reuse is the second stage!

(P.S: I heard that the nose cones on the side boosters were used on the Tesla launch last year)