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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Pile Driver on July 21, 2016, 04:18:32 PM
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Here's one of mine for starters, no sign of a maker mark or what the 348 stamping signifies
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- Aitor Fisherman
- Boker TechTool
- Kershaw Quartermaster
- Mercury
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Here's one sold by Clas Ohlsen under the "Asaklitt" brand.
It's basically an exact copy of a Victorinox Ranger.
It's not only an exact copy it's also a very good copy, it's that good that Victorinox scales fit exactly onto the brass bushings.
The tools are excellent quality & have a perfect snap to them.(Very strong springs).
The only difference is that the Asaklitt knife has no markings anywhere on the blade.
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Schrade ISC (I can't remember the model)
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Browning 2718FO Outdoorsman.....
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FOX Italy , I do not know the model name....I call her "Brick House" :D
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Great knives guys!!!!
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Not sure if sak-alike or hobo-style, but really really nice: Richartz Struktura Picknick 5
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XHe_Zht2HE8/VtV1uTqBbkI/AAAAAAAAlKY/EeHwt8BwK_0oBcTwVjoExHlJSj3BCXbYwCKgB/s1600/upload_-1)
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Dont know the model on this but it is manufactured by eka knives from sweden.
(https://jfxcpq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mwJ2KQTGnWr-nefBr-x1fXHW2G3Kpqi6-TM_dcRAB6ZxnUb25Sn5NFtAKDmILh99ijYCwSaav44edI8jUzsWh3p_6zLJ8GxmpGSMd6aI-E0l5Gx761wY4tp_ZxrKij9CZ_JN9kmE-LKvMgwaQdV1mMtZaAFWMqIGqxSSkfpUsVlw?width=660&height=495&cropmode=none)
(https://jfxxpq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mTBl8tM1yTHoezTcLSqKHCHyCS3tdVwVcz76qWDEeYKp-N8uS3qv9akJ2gU43dJIxH3h_FUCw_qNnsiDwjUElmvHILUPUwSYJA-Yd6XRJIEozkIqtxgQwG6xcl29fTGwIpG6CLbLKPIw8luwUcLnkn1K2lZIUs4K9p6SI9-sjf8o?width=660&height=495&cropmode=none)
(https://jfxwpq.bl3301.livefilestore.com/y3mzDLqpxygoBjc20K7aKlPpN0129hJP0NdS2AvtU7_At4jGDYEqYs3Dn69GfyeueyNcxZpzDTfIQy6RAG-dzjBZmQCR5vxVvUOIRPCq-xMa9bRlOGw48avOV7eJZuZKl5eR1WDPexZN9tpWUw35fSqpUpYUCeCVETpRgEgE8HN3eE?width=660&height=495&cropmode=none)
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Aitor, Spain.
I would place the quality not much behind Vic and Wenger
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7393/27972902712_91c0841121_b.jpg)
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- Kershaw Quartermaster
That's neat. :tu:
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The highest quality SAKAlike I've handled and owned is this EGO Tools A01, I believe it's their biggest models
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/20151123_163913_zpszfxki7d7.jpg)
Hard to complain about any of its (minor) defects fpr $25. Admittedly close to the Swisschamp's funcionality, just heavier and bulkier
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/20151123_163906_zpsinhyitxw.jpg)
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I remember your review of that one Peacent - looks interesting.
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Not sure if sak-alike or hobo-style, but really really nice: Richartz Struktura Picknick 5
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XHe_Zht2HE8/VtV1uTqBbkI/AAAAAAAAlKY/EeHwt8BwK_0oBcTwVjoExHlJSj3BCXbYwCKgB/s1600/upload_-1)
Really odd that it has two bottle openers, one on the fork, one on the openers layer.
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Camper pattern by Adler Messer, Germany. Somewhat cheaper than Vic. Quality is quite good.
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I really want one of the Boker techtools. The blade looks really nice.
Peacant: I've had my eye on one of the Ego SAK clones. Can't find them anywhere, they only seem to be sold in Russia. :(
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This is my daughters first knife - she found it in a junk shop when she was 8 and yellow is her favourite colour. Build quality is pretty good - it's nice and robust, scales are solid. Blade is stainless and the rest of the tools are carbon steel.
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8893/28209308143_10a4c2b16a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JYL5vM)WP_20160807_002 (https://flic.kr/p/JYL5vM) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
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The Eka looks like a modder's dream that simply screws together.
That Mercury makes me want to fit a fork onto a custom build. You can always "spear" food with a blade or golf tool, but sometimes an actual fork and spoon are handy. Even in urban settings I find myself without a spoon sometimes. But I always have a SAK.
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The Eka looks like a modder's dream that simply screws together.
That Mercury makes me want to fit a fork onto a custom build. You can always "spear" food with a blade or golf tool, but sometimes an actual fork and spoon are handy. Even in urban settings I find myself without a spoon sometimes. But I always have a SAK.
I don't know about the straight up EKA knife but the Wenger/EKA Wood Edition don't actually screw apart.
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The Eka looks like a modder's dream that simply screws together.
That Mercury makes me want to fit a fork onto a custom build. You can always "spear" food with a blade or golf tool, but sometimes an actual fork and spoon are handy. Even in urban settings I find myself without a spoon sometimes. But I always have a SAK.
I don't know about the straight up EKA knife but the Wenger/EKA Wood Edition don't actually screw apart.
Thanks for the info. Never tried to unscrew an EKA/Wenger, but good to know. :cheers:
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160811/b35128b1e1906625fa56dfd44e838b84.jpg)
My Aitors. All 108s. Vic never put tools like these in a 108. They don't make hobo knives at all.
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160811/b35128b1e1906625fa56dfd44e838b84.jpg)
My Aitors. All 108s. Vic never put tools like these in a 108. They don't make hobo knives at all.
Yeah, I've wondered why Vic had no hobo saks. Nice collection! :drool:
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160811/db2b846da4701565d99aa09da62c6fe1.jpg)
"Bulldog Brand, Hammer forged, Solingen Germany"
Like an Executive with a combo tool instead of an orange peeler
and those scales
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The long "blade" on the back is the nail file (file surface on the back).
Bottom is flat / phillips screwdriver.
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Gerlach, Poland. All stainless steel (except file :))
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/samek_2006/P1080107_zps41c9e463.jpg) (http://s108.photobucket.com/user/samek_2006/media/P1080107_zps41c9e463.jpg.html)
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That looks well built samek.
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Great thread :tu:
Some very interesting knives here, thanks for sharing :salute:
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I just grabbed a SpanishArmyKnife in my Holidays last week. $5, sturdy, well built and pretty sexy.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03629_zpspxpc9fky.jpg)
It's from the well known Spanish brand Aitor, from years before the company was sold to Chinese owners who began to produce crap.
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03638_zpses8bwrao.jpg)
True Old Goodness feeling, construction and materials
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03651_zps8jxaartu.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-08/CAM03624_zpsivs6en7k.jpg)
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- Aitor Fisherman
- Boker TechTool
- Kershaw Quartermaster
- Mercury
May I ask you your opinion on that Mercury?
I am considering buying one since they're made here in Italy. The model I'm looking at has that fork tool too, which I find a bit weird...
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- Aitor Fisherman
- Boker TechTool
- Kershaw Quartermaster
- Mercury
May I ask you your opinion on that Mercury?
I am considering buying one since they're made here in Italy. The model I'm looking at has that fork tool too, which I find a bit weird...
It appears to be well made, but I've never used it for anything. They may be common in Italy, but I bought that in France; only one I've ever seen.
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It appears to be well made, but I've never used it for anything. They may be common in Italy, but I bought that in France; only one I've ever seen.
Thanks. They have several lines and models of "hunting" knives. The one I'm considering is a nice stag handled one. Not dirty cheap but not too expensive either. The only thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger is that odd fork. I'll post a pic if I do!
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From left to right:
Overland Germany 112 stainless
PRADEL
Unknown
PRADEL
Hoffritz Holland
J.A. Henckles
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Vintage wenger-esque Spanish Aitor
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Well, here's an interesting one. COAST made a line of pocket knives named "Portor" that are essentially Wenger knives. The quality is top notch, and the tools are so close to Wenger tools, that I think Wenger must have sold Coast blanks. The only real differences are that there is more polishing of the tools on the coast knife - the edges are all slightly rounded. One of the scales attaches just like a 90s wenger scale, with the little clips on the outer liners. The other is special, as you'll see.
How similar are these tools?
Well, the main blade is identical to the clip point blade from a swissbuck. However, it is sharpened far differently. It's only sharpened on one side, and it's now a combo blade with very fine serrations at the back.
The saw is absolutely identical. It's not polished, and it is easy to see it's the same saw from a Wenger knife. Tooth count and shape is the same, and the nail nick is identical.
The scissors are the same. They're slightly more polished on the Coast, but they're obviously Wenger scissors. They cut through blister packaging just like Wenger scissors.
The cap lifter and can opener are the same. They're more polished on the Coast, and the coast has extra material missing on the can opener lower arm, but it's obvious they're made from the same blank.
The nail file is cool. Instead of a pointed file, they put a small screwdriver on the end. I've not seen a Wenger with this setup, but I like it very much. It's a useful size screwdriver, just a hair larger than the one on a Vic can opener.
The phillips drivers are the same. I can see no difference to speak of.
Tweezers are Victorinox tweezers, shortened to fit in the scale, with a slightly different profile head. If not for the length, I couldn't tell the difference between the tweezers. They appear identical. The bend is in the same place even.
The really cool part about this knife isn't that it's a near-perfect copy of a Wenger, with some mildly interesting tool variation. The fact is this knife HAS A MOTHERSMURFIN' LIGHTER as one of the scales. And it still works after all this time. I had to work the valves and filler to get stuff unstuck, but once I did I was able to fill it with lighter fluid and it fired right up. This thing is really cool. I paid $15 for it on the 'bay.
Charles.
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More tool comparisons
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Did I mention? Mother. Smurfin'. Lighter. Scale.
Charles.
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Smurfin marvellous Chas :like:
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my favorite, the EGO A01
(https://i.imgur.com/5MmH7nf.jpg)
Thick, heavy, but lots of functions
(https://i.imgur.com/UH0jHGQ.jpg)
it's no Swisschamp but no worthless copy either :cheers:
(https://i.imgur.com/RsdtyE4.jpg)
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Camper pattern by Adler Messer, Germany. Somewhat cheaper than Vic. Quality is quite good.
bit late to reply :
Quality is quite good because these Adlers were made with Victorinox parts.
So were a couple of GAKs
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Hrm, doesn't appear that EGO knives are available anywhere anymore.
Charles.
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Hrm, doesn't appear that EGO knives are available anywhere anymore.
Charles.
no, unfortunately they lasted short time :P
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(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6299.0;attach=324263)
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(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6299.0;attach=324263)
Very nice deeks :salute: - any info?
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Nontron, French knives. This is their site http://www.couteaux-nontron.fr/5-couteaux-nontron-en-buis
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What Ron said.
They make more expensive victorinox and opinel knives, really.
The sak look ones are not as smooth in operation as the victorinox ones and cost more, but they look different. Available in many European countries and Amazon. Sandvic steel.
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:tu: Nice! Thanks for the info both of you :salute:
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And now, for something really different : an Alox Sak-a-like I like ! (humor)
This knife is actually in my possession, it sneaked into my collection hidden amongst a lot of so-so Vic or Wenger.
Not badly built, actually. Most striking feature is this very odd can opener
If anyone has info on this brand, I would be very grateful for it.
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Rost never?
Sounds like someone took the german name for rust and added "never"
In other words: stains never... stainless steel...
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Interesting knife nevertheless!
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Just an FYI, that Coast knife I posted above? I got a similar model new in the packaging. Packaging states "Components from various countries, including Europe. Assembled in China" on the back. So it's very, very likely that the tools and liners are all Wenger parts.
Charles.
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I'm liking the Boker City Tool series. Great alternative to Swiss for the money.
(https://i.imgur.com/0Ilpbrel.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/MwBQEj5l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ncZoe23l.jpg?1)
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I'd love to get an older Aitor like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aitor-Swiss-Army-Type-Knife-Multi-Tool/232940373754?hash=item363c5406fa:g:44UAAOSw9wxbnINM
But bills come first, someday. Ya'll have turned me on to the nice quality "knock offs" and they're on the list now.
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This gorgeous little 84mm "Tourist" copy has all the fruit. Round Awl, Exposed Rivets, lobster claw opener and as far as quality goes, if it had Victorinox stamped on the tang rather than Saphir, I think 99% of people couldn't pick it as a Sak-a-like.
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Black Beautyesque Pradel. About 103mm long. Assuming emblem of Savoy rather than Swiss cross.
(https://i.imgur.com/Tu2ljLLl.jpg)
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Black Beautyesque Pradel. About 103mm long. Assuming emblem of Savoy rather than Swiss cross.
(https://i.imgur.com/Tu2ljLLl.jpg)
Lovely looking knife :like:
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And now, for something really different : an Alox Sak-a-like I like ! (humor)
This knife is actually in my possession, it sneaked into my collection hidden amongst a lot of so-so Vic or Wenger.
Not badly built, actually. Most striking feature is this very odd can opener
If anyone has info on this brand, I would be very grateful for it.
In case anyone else is looking to create connections, I also found a reasonable quality knife that is "referencing" the Victorinox patterns with "Rost Never" on the blade: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,27753.msg2449362.html#msg2449362.