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Title: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: magentus on May 30, 2019, 10:55:42 PM
Why is a grilled cheese sandwich not called a broiled cheese sandwich?

I need to know.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 30, 2019, 11:01:10 PM
That sounds awful, it would be all soggy n everythink... Yuck!
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: kottskrapa on May 30, 2019, 11:01:44 PM
Or just a hot sandwich?

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 30, 2019, 11:01:55 PM
Why is a grilled cheese sandwich not called a broiled cheese sandwich?

I need to know.

Maybe because they are Grilled or Fried?

Who knows,either way I have not seen one Broiled?

What do you take us for, Cavemen?
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: kottskrapa on May 30, 2019, 11:16:02 PM
After Google grilled cheese sandwich I will take my statement back.. It's not a hot sandwich

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 30, 2019, 11:23:53 PM
I've just googled grilled cheese sandwich too... Now I want a grilled cheese sandwich.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: kottskrapa on May 30, 2019, 11:29:27 PM
So do I! But I guess it's pretty close to what we just call toast here in Sweden? But we do them in like a waffle iron but for sandwiches

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 30, 2019, 11:32:07 PM
Interchange "grill" with "griddle" I'd guess.  Both basically a hot plate. 
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 30, 2019, 11:32:23 PM
But we do them in like a waffle iron but for sandwiches

We call those toasted sandwiches.

I believe in Scotland a grilled cheese sandwich is called a "wee toastie" - can anyone confirm?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: kottskrapa on May 30, 2019, 11:35:50 PM
I'm getting dizzy! So many toasts and sandwiches with melted cheese.. I'm hungry now

[It's not failure if you learn something from it]

Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 30, 2019, 11:37:43 PM
We call those toasted sandwiches.

I believe in Scotland a grilled cheese sandwich is called a "wee toastie" - can anyone confirm?  :dunno:

Doesn't have to be "wee" but definitely a "toastie".  Does suggest a sealed sandwich made in a toastie maker though.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91ses-tZt2L._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 30, 2019, 11:42:11 PM
Ok so I have made these at home in a pan so I consider that Browning I suppose or Pan Fried as I do not have a Grill at home and when working in Restaurant on the Grill thus the name!

Now I am starving too


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Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: WoodsDuck on May 31, 2019, 12:15:44 AM
I've made "grilled" cheese in the toaster oven before, which I suppose is almost like broiling. If you put a slice of cheese on each piece of bread and then join them after the toasting/broiling it works quite well.

And now I want a grilled cheese too. With a bowl of tomato soup, of course  :gimme:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 12:16:42 AM
The grilled cheese, when well made, is a real thing of luxury and deliciousness.

(https://cdn-image.foodandwine.com/sites/default/files/HD-201109-grilled-cheese-grahamwich-ss.jpg)



It's called "grilled" cheese because....and I know this is a bit confusing...in a diner it is made on the flattop grill, the US version of a plancha.

This is a "grill man" working a grill:

(http://elstopfoodhunt.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dsc05525.jpg)


Not to be confused with with the cooking device found in most American backyards, also called....a grill.... :facepalm:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--A8EOlRtZ--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/tzqbqljjgnwkgzleeshn.jpg)


The home cook, desperate for a late night snack, will use a cast iron pan to make a grilled cheese sammie, thereby replicating the classic diner's grill surface. Other pans can be used, even the backyard charcoal grill, but that crisp, crunchy crust and soft, cheese, gooey interior is best accomplished with a cast iron skillet or griddle.

(https://i.redd.it/4b0vlh0t28ry.jpg)


Let me recommend adding some cooked bacon and a thin slice of tomato to the cheese middle of your next grilled cheese sandwich. Fantastic! 
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 12:21:49 AM
Nice example of someone using their charcoal grill to heat up a skillet to make a grilled cheese sandwich:

(https://i.redd.it/i3rh6m9s76yy.jpg)


Any heat source will do, the cook in this case is just using his cast iron pan at home to replicate a diner's grill.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 12:23:12 AM
Can we mericans agree that regardless of manufacturing details that we shall NEVER refer to this as “Wee Toastie”?!


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Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 12:24:56 AM
We call those toasted sandwiches.

I believe in Scotland a grilled cheese sandwich is called a "wee toastie" - can anyone confirm?  :dunno:

I can do you a wee toastie if you want... and post it to you.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: WoodsDuck on May 31, 2019, 12:25:43 AM
Can we mericans agree that regardless of manufacturing details that we shall NEVER refer to this as “Wee Toastie”?!


Sent from my iPhone,dont expect too much

 :iagree:

I won't even say what that term makes me think of.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 12:31:50 AM
The grilled cheese, when well made, is a real thing of luxury and deliciousness.

(https://cdn-image.foodandwine.com/sites/default/files/HD-201109-grilled-cheese-grahamwich-ss.jpg)



It's called "grilled" cheese because....and I know this is a bit confusing...in a diner it is made on the flattop grill, the US version of a plancha.

This is a "grill man" working a grill:

(http://elstopfoodhunt.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dsc05525.jpg)


Not to be confused with with the cooking device found in most American backyards, also called....a grill.... :facepalm:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--A8EOlRtZ--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/tzqbqljjgnwkgzleeshn.jpg)


The home cook, desperate for a late night snack, will use a cast iron pan to make a grilled cheese sammie, thereby replicating the classic diner's grill surface. Other pans can be used, even the backyard charcoal grill, but that crisp, crunchy crust and soft, cheese, gooey interior is best accomplished with a cast iron skillet or griddle.

(https://i.redd.it/4b0vlh0t28ry.jpg)


Let me recommend adding some cooked bacon and a thin slice of tomato to the cheese middle of your next grilled cheese sandwich. Fantastic!

Outstanding post Nix.  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 12:33:08 AM
Can we mericans agree that regardless of manufacturing details that we shall NEVER refer to this as “Wee Toastie”?!




So let it be written, so let it be done!
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 12:33:48 AM
Outstanding post Nix.  :hatsoff:


At your service, M'laird....  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 12:36:10 AM

At your service, M'laird....  :hatsoff:
I concur great post and description!
Speaking as a former Grill Jockey who dies not miss that job.


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Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 12:57:40 AM
Can we mericans agree that regardless of manufacturing details that we shall NEVER refer to this as “Wee Toastie”?!


Sent from my iPhone,dont expect too much
:rofl: fair enough. :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: comis on May 31, 2019, 01:19:43 AM
Outstanding post Nix.  :hatsoff:


 :like: Great post, Nix, now I am hungry!
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 01:20:13 AM
I can do you a wee toastie if you want... and post it to you.

I will have my people call your people to work out the details.

Oh and I don't have any people. :cheers:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 03:05:40 AM
I can do you a wee toastie if you want... and post it to you.

Yes please... i would LOVE a WEE TOASTIE.  :drool:

You have my address. :pok:  Make sure it's warm. :poke:
Title: Vital question for America
Post by: Sos24 on May 31, 2019, 04:03:31 AM
I love grilled cheese.

Some people think of grilled cheese as just melting cheese on toasted bread, but it is grilling a cheese sandwich in a pan or on a griddle or flattop.  The butter bread just gets so deliciously crispy in contrast with the gooey melted cheese.

Grilled ham and cheese, grilled spam and cheese, and grilled peanut butter and jelly are all also good.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 04:43:36 AM
SOS, you reminded me that a grilled Swiss cheese with strawberry jam is delicious.   :tu:

I never tried the grilled PB & J, but I have had PB & J on a cheeseburger. I can heartily recommend that and can imagine that a grilled PB & J would be a fine thing, too.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 04:44:29 AM
Does it have to be butter?

I've made grilled cheese using olive oil. Worked for me, give it a shot!   :tu:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 05:07:00 AM
Has to be real butter not that fake oleo stuff & a thick slice of dill pickle with every bite. Not on the sammich now, take a bite of sammich then throw in the slice of pickle. Best thing ya ever slid down that old banana chute. :gimme:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 09:36:00 AM
OK, so what type of cheese are you guys using?  Also; sliced or grated?  I am definitely having one for lunch today BTW.  :drool:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: pomsbz on May 31, 2019, 10:40:13 AM
Doesn't have to be "wee" but definitely a "toastie".  Does suggest a sealed sandwich made in a toastie maker though.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91ses-tZt2L._SL1500_.jpg)

I use one of those to make bean'n'bite sandwiches with nut bread. Yum!
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 11:13:55 AM
Yes please... i would LOVE a WEE TOASTIE.  :drool:

You have my address. :pok:  Make sure it's warm. :poke:
Sync. Just don't. Please.


Check out what Fuzzy means by wee - it doesn't just mean small over here.  :D

If, after discovering it's other meaning you still want fuzzy to send you one, then by all means continue with my blessing. No judgement here.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 11:16:25 AM
Great answers all - thanks  :salute:

Here in Albion we have 'cheese on toast' which is toasted bread with cheese on top melted under a grill - that's what got me thinking about the UK/US difference - you call grilling broiling don't you?

A cheese toastie is what we call your grilled cheese sarny

Now I want one.
Title: Vital question for America
Post by: Sos24 on May 31, 2019, 11:23:24 AM
OK, so what type of cheese are you guys using?  Also; sliced or grated?  I am definitely having one for lunch today BTW.  :drool:

It can be any type of cheese that you like as long as it is one that melts well.  You can even use more than one type if desired on the same sandwich.  Slices work well because they help make sure that every bite is cheese filled.  Even American cheese works well and is even preferred by some because of how well it melts.  Whatever cheese you choose, do not skimp on the amount of cheese. 

Nix - I’ve always used better, but I don’t see why oil wouldn’t work. 
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 11:27:34 AM
A good strong mature cheddar is my favourite  :drool:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 01:01:47 PM
ummm.......'merican cheese really.

Not too sure how much cheese this is but gonna need to go old school with my first choice! :rant:

Sure any other cheese may substitute but ,when in Rome as they say........ :drink:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 01:03:48 PM
Great answers all - thanks  :salute:

Here in Albion we have 'cheese on toast' which is toasted bread with cheese on top melted under a grill - that's what got me thinking about the UK/US difference - you call grilling broiling don't you?

A cheese toastie is what we call your grilled cheese sarny

Now I want one.

That is what we call Broiling here but again I have never seen or considered making one that way but others evidently have.

That wold be more like Toasted Cheese to me unlike the Grilling right on a heated metal surface from below,Wee or otherwise!

Hey if the only tool you have Broils then Broil to melt the Cheese it should be! :popcorn: :gimme:

And Mags another great observation about the phrase "Wee" but to clarify further one might use the term "WeeWee"?!

Not to put too fine a point on this of course. :pok:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 01:05:31 PM
mmmm...lunch time.  :drool:

(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=81724.0;attach=435633)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 01:09:54 PM
I am familiar with both uses of the word wee, however I expected everyone would keep their mind out of the gutter.  :twak:

If, after discovering it's other meaning you still want fuzzy to send you one, then by all means continue with my blessing. No judgement here.
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Yes I would like a toastie from ur i nation.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Whoey on May 31, 2019, 01:18:37 PM
I keep seeing those food trucks on TV that specialize in grilled cheese sandwiches  :ahhh

I made some last week with aged cheddar...  :drool:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 01:19:04 PM
The word "grill" to me has usually meant grilling something in the oven, where only the top elements are used.
However I believe it comes from the food being on a grill(rack) which traditionally was over a fire, so the heat came from beneath.
So is it still a grill if it is solid?  :think:

The word broil... I'm surprised at it's meaning as it sounds like boil...

American Cheese sounds like what I call plastic cheese.  :pok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwgp5b56Sw
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 01:20:20 PM
Perhaps griddled cheese sandwich would make more sense.  :think:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 01:43:46 PM
Grilled, griddled, broiled, boiled, roasted, baked, fried, too many words. :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 01:44:07 PM
I am familiar with both uses of the word wee, however I expected everyone would keep their mind out of the gutter.  :twak:
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Yes I would like a toastie from ur i nation.
Really Sync?

Fuzzy and I live in the gutter. I thought that was evident.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 01:44:46 PM
what about microwaved? That'd be an interesting project. Anyone care to try?
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 02:04:24 PM
Why am I watching YouTube videos of grilled cheese sandwiches / cheese toasties at midnight? And eating them?
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: pomsbz on May 31, 2019, 02:09:22 PM
what about microwaved? That'd be an interesting project. Anyone care to try?

https://www.lakeland.co.uk/73378/L%C3%A9ku%C3%A9-Microwave-Grill

Dying to know if it actually works or everything tastes rubbery as usual from the microwave.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 02:10:23 PM
https://www.lakeland.co.uk/73378/L%C3%A9ku%C3%A9-Microwave-Grill

Nah - just microwaved, no gimmicks  :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 02:10:42 PM
Why am I watching YouTube videos of grilled cheese sandwiches / cheese toasties at midnight? And eating them?

 :assimilate:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 02:12:13 PM
Really Sync?

Fuzzy and I live in the gutter. I thought that was evident.

I did live in the gutter, but I rose to prominence in the 90s. I do, however, still like to visit the gutter frequently for my own sordid reasons.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 02:13:08 PM
Why am I watching YouTube videos of grilled cheese sandwiches / cheese toasties at midnight? And eating them?

You'll get funny dreams and wee the bed.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: pomsbz on May 31, 2019, 02:16:30 PM
Nah - just microwaved, no gimmicks  :D

Bread and microwaves are a nasty combination usually.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 02:17:09 PM
Oh yeah, cheese dreams.....
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
Bread and microwaves are a nasty combination usually.
yeah, I can only imagine that's going to be a nasty soggy mess.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 02:23:13 PM
yeah, I can only imagine that's going to be a nasty soggy mess.
Maybe there's a way you don't have to imagine it  :pok:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 02:27:30 PM
Oh yeah, cheese dreams.....

Yep...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/dQRJlzW1sK3QI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 02:57:07 PM
The word "grill" to me has usually meant grilling something in the oven, where only the top elements are used.
However I believe it comes from the food being on a grill(rack) which traditionally was over a fire, so the heat came from beneath.
So is it still a grill if it is solid?  :think:

The word broil... I'm surprised at it's meaning as it sounds like boil...

American Cheese sounds like what I call plastic cheese.  :pok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwgp5b56Sw

In the US, what you are describing would be called "broiling".

And the US is in a bit of a pickle with it's multiple meanings of the word "grill", true. But, as Butch pointed out, we like pickles!

So, yes, a hot, solid, flat piece of metal is called a "grill", especially if found in a restaurant, e.g. a diner.  But a metal rack or grate sitting over some sort of heat source, typically burning wood, charcoal, or propane, is also called a "grill".

(Now, no one bring up the confusing topic of the "BBQ". Please.)


And, Sync, 'American Cheese' is real cheese.  :rant:  It is rather more processed than some other cheeses, e.g. Cheddar, but it is a great cheese to use for melting in a sarny, sammie, grinder, or Philly Cheese steak.  Let's be honest here, all cheese is processed to a degree. I made some Indian Paneer last week, just about as simple as a cheese can get, but it's still processed. American cheese is just processed better.  :D

Of course, when it comes to the stuff sold as "American Cheese Food"......you may have a leg to stand on there.......  :surrender:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 02:58:35 PM
Nice work, G!


(I'm making some bread today, so a "Grilled Cheese" may feature in my lunch plans for tomorrow.  :tu:)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 02:58:41 PM
Let's not talk about what's in the"hotdog food".
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 03:00:33 PM
Let's not talk about what's in the"hotdog food".


No, we just eat 'em!!!!   :woohoo:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Oh I do like paneer... Palak Paneer, Kadhai Paneer....  :drool:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 03:02:39 PM
Oh I do like paneer... Palak Paneer, Kadhai Paneer....  :drool:

Palak paneer is on the menu for this weekend.  :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 03:03:12 PM
But Nix, what about BBQs?
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 03:03:49 PM

No, we just eat 'em!!!!   :woohoo:

Hotdogs are superb!  :like:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Maybe there's a way you don't have to imagine it  :pok:
thanks, but I'll stick to my cheese on toast, cheese and ham toastie or grilled cheese sandwich.  I'll very happily hear about how well it works for you though.  :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Whoey on May 31, 2019, 03:08:30 PM
the only microwaving involved should be softening butter...
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 03:09:44 PM
Let's not talk about what's in the"hotdog food".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CptWCSreg_w
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 03:21:06 PM
the only microwaving involved should be softening butter...

One of my only uses for that contraption....
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 03:23:22 PM
But Nix, what about BBQs?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/c56664f8db3807aad2e73e74e736c267/tenor.gif)


Sorry, Fuzzy, we're not going there.....lives could be put in jeaopardy....nope.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 04:31:56 PM
He won't give up Nix - he's like a really annoying Columbo dressed in sequins, glitter and latex.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 04:44:25 PM
We're talking about a potential civil war here, Mags. So...not going to happen.  :dwts:



(might be open to bribes with Jaffa cakes, though...)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 04:48:56 PM
So today we have learned that Nix would risk all out Civil War for some snacks. Snacks! :pok: You could just buy some you know.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 04:49:44 PM
Grilled Cheese, Quesadillas, Panini, and the like are tops in my book.  Hotdogs are great at the ball field and I have to admit at Costco.  I like lots of deli mustard and relish. 

Y'all making me crave hotdogs and Grilled Cheese, maybe I'll combine them and make a grilled cheese dog?   
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 04:52:20 PM
Grilled Cheese, Quesadillas, Panini, and the like are tops in my book.  Hotdogs are great at the ball field and I have to admit at Costco.  I like lots of deli mustard and relish. 

Y'all making me crave hotdogs and Grilled Cheese, maybe I'll combine them and make a grilled cheese dog?

How about a broiled cheese dog?  :D

Or a microwaved chhese dog?  :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
Y'all making me crave hotdogs and Grilled Cheese, maybe I'll combine them and make a grilled cheese dog?

Brilliant!


(And don't listen to Mags, he's trying to stir up trouble like a microwaved soup.)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
We use our microwave for pop corn and to heat water for cleaning SAKs. 
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 05:29:15 PM
I use mine to soften butter and heat milk for Mrs Nix's Cafe au lait.

Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 05:40:09 PM
Grilled Cheese, Quesadillas, Panini, and the like are tops in my book.  Hotdogs are great at the ball field and I have to admit at Costco.  I like lots of deli mustard and relish. 

Y'all making me crave hotdogs and Grilled Cheese, maybe I'll combine them and make a grilled cheese dog?


Sacrilege sacrilege, I say. oh the humanity, A dog without chilli , cheese, & mustard...............agghhhhh I'll have nightmares for months............ need to see my PTSD counselor. .............Aggghhhhh oh I just can't look ..........somebody tell me when it is over ..........that is almost as bad as the yucky yankee custom of ketchup on a burger instead of mustard ......

AGGHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2019, 05:43:34 PM
And the Oscar goes to Butch for his dramatic portrayal of a man alone in a world he cannot understand.  :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 05:44:58 PM
 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 05:52:42 PM
He won't give up Nix - he's like a really annoying Columbo dressed in sequins, glitter and latex.

Like a really sloooooowwww annoying Columbo. Just one more thing...
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 05:56:46 PM
And the Oscar goes to Butch for his dramatic portrayal of a man alone in a world he cannot understand.  :D

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :tu:







 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
I'm with you on the catsup thing, Butch.  :cheers:

Catsup belongs on the fries (chips), not the burger.   :tu:

(And pickles and onions. That's the proper way to make a burger. )


Hotdogs, on the other hand,....anything goes.

(https://www.williams-sonoma.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/recipe/201851/0010/img54l.jpg)
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 06:20:49 PM
Catsup = Ketchup  :angel:
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 06:21:40 PM
I'm with you on the catsup thing, Butch.  :cheers:

Catsup belongs on the fries (chips), not the burger.   :tu:

(And pickles and onions. That's the proper way to make a burger. )


Hotdogs, on the other hand,....anything goes.

[im :dwts:g]https://www.williams-sonoma.com/wsimgs/ab/images/dp/recipe/201851/0010/img54l.jpg[/img]

.   .AAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH     

MY EYES

 :dwts:


 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 06:28:42 PM
Catsup = Ketchup  :angel:

= mother sauce.
Title: Re: Vital question for America
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 06:35:44 PM
Catsup = Ketchup  :angel:
:twak: :twak: :pok: :rofl:

Ketchup is Texian talk
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
 :rofl:

I like chili on my dogs too but with or without meat?  I've never particularly cared for meatless chili but I'll have to slip over to the chili thread for further analysis. 
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Butch on May 31, 2019, 07:34:38 PM
:rofl:

I like chili on my dogs too but with or without meat?  I've never particularly cared for meatless chili but I'll have to slip over to the chili thread for further analysis.

AGGGHHHHHH
Meatless chilli, I just don't think I can take this world any longer. Just too much trauma for one soul to bare.



What has happened to mankind ............so very very sad ............... the demise of a world.............(sigh)

 :surrender:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 07:46:59 PM
Butch if you can.......   You may have to reboot to get back to the point before all this nonsense of how to dress a dog.

Show content
https://youtu.be/oc3ri4zbJQA
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 07:50:05 PM
Is nothing Sacred here anymore?!

I too do not understand the TOMATO SAUCE ON A BURGER AT ALL,MUSTARD IS THE ONLY TRUE BURGER SAUCE......UNLESS BARBEQUE OF COURSE,BUT I DIGRESS!

And if I wanted to get Chips I would order Chips but I usually want Deep Fried Potato strips,thats all and only with Tomato Sauce too!!!!
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 07:53:49 PM
Ketchup or Catchup is not a condiment I particularly like.  I like grain mustard personally vs the yellow stuff.   
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 08:39:41 PM
Ketchup or Catchup is not a condiment I particularly like.  I like grain mustard personally vs the yellow stuff.

I've been making my own prepared mustard using brown and yellow mustard seeds. Lots of garlic and cider vinegar. I'll never go back to the commercial stuff, now.   :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Whoey on May 31, 2019, 08:46:40 PM
Added controversy:

Grilled Cheese with or without onion?
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 08:47:28 PM
Until we get a proper South African to chime in here, I feel obligated to bring up the subject of the:

Braaibroodjie

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/67/7b/91677bb7e4d4853baebd65c5db59d2f6.jpg)



I learned about this sammie a couple years ago. Apparently a....'toasted cheese' sandwich made with tomatoes and onions, sometimes a little chutney too. This sandwich is actually grilled on the grill or in a little basket that can go on the grill. Seems as though this should be call a Grilled Cheese, but the South Africans side step the whole issue by calling it something no one can pronounce.....

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgXlBqTYF-SDXSQhPBO3lY6Xz0hWNIfCNlm85N9Q_J1hX9A55T)
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Added controversy:

Grilled Cheese with or without onion?

When in doubt, with.

(See above)
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Whoey on May 31, 2019, 08:48:52 PM
Sounds dutch
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 08:50:17 PM
Sounds dutch
It's the extra vowels, isn't it?
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Mechanickal on May 31, 2019, 08:51:04 PM
South Africa was a Dutch colony, which led to both languages sounding very similar.
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 08:51:50 PM
I'm reliably informed that the Braaibroodjie is an essential feature of every S.A. cookout.  But I'm no expert. We really need a broader world representation on this topic.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2019, 09:24:28 PM
Lets add some more controversy shall we?

Ketchup/Catshup is tomato base?  Tomato being fruit correct?  Is then the sauce not a sauce but a smoothie? 
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
Lets add some more controversy shall we?

Ketchup/Catshup is tomato base?  Tomato being fruit correct?  Is then the sauce not a sauce but a smoothie?


I once had a beer that was mixed with catsup and a shot of Tabasco. Not bad, really.
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: ezdog on May 31, 2019, 09:53:35 PM
Alright when it comes right down to it none of this really affects my breathing anyway........

I am just not all that crazy for Cheese.

I love certain cheeses of course but overall I am never really tempted to adorn other perfectly self serving foods with cheese for any reason,NEVER!!!

There I said it and it does feel good to get it out for the world to see! :woohoo:

I also might point out that Cheese also does not really like me but that might be another topic entirely. :dunno:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 10:01:08 PM
Until we get a proper South African to chime in here, I feel obligated to bring up the subject of the:

Braaibroodjie

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/67/7b/91677bb7e4d4853baebd65c5db59d2f6.jpg)



I learned about this sammie a couple years ago. Apparently a....'toasted cheese' sandwich made with tomatoes and onions, sometimes a little chutney too. This sandwich is actually grilled on the grill or in a little basket that can go on the grill. Seems as though this should be call a Grilled Cheese, but the South Africans side step the whole issue by calling it something no one can pronounce.....

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQgXlBqTYF-SDXSQhPBO3lY6Xz0hWNIfCNlm85N9Q_J1hX9A55T)

Being serious for a moment...  :o

That is a superb image there Nix. Are you using a copy stand or have you just got a really steady (nerves of smurfing steel) hand?  :hatsoff:

Anyway, as you were...
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on May 31, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
Thanks, Fuzzy!

* cough, cough * stock photo from interweb....
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Fuzzbucket on May 31, 2019, 10:27:04 PM
Thanks, Fuzzy!

* cough, cough * stock photo from interweb....

NOOOOOOOOO....! I'm not speaking to you...
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2019, 11:03:55 PM
Alright when it comes right down to it none of this really affects my breathing anyway........

I am just not all that crazy for Cheese.

I love certain cheeses of course but overall I am never really tempted to adorn other perfectly self serving foods with cheese for any reason,NEVER!!!

There I said it and it does feel good to get it out for the world to see! :woohoo:

I also might point out that Cheese also does not really like me but that might be another topic entirely. :dunno:
:iagree:
I like to avoid cheese as a topping.
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Syncop8r on May 31, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
Braai is what South Africans call a BBQ, right?
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on June 01, 2019, 12:13:34 AM
I believe so.

Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Fast Bill on June 01, 2019, 08:42:41 AM
Yep. It's Afrikaans I believe. I have relatives in South Africa but it's a few years since I was there.

I've never seen that on a Braai though Nix.... Vors obviously ... but not a cheese toasty in disguise :think:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: magentus on June 01, 2019, 09:37:45 AM
:iagree:
I like to avoid cheese as a topping.
In case you're judging cheese by what you've been served on the U Boat Pabs, I'd give the real stuff a try.
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Fast Bill on June 01, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
In case you're judging cheese by what you've been served on the U Boat Pabs, I'd give the real stuff a try.

Mind you The Captains Table always offered a fine stinking bishop  :pok:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Syncop8r on June 01, 2019, 10:22:22 AM
I think I had a Stinking Bishop in 2012.... oops, TMI.  :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Fast Bill on June 01, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on June 01, 2019, 02:44:00 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Aloha on June 01, 2019, 03:11:54 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Butch on June 01, 2019, 05:46:53 PM
I think I had a Stinking Bishop in 2012.... oops, TMI.  :ahhh

Ohhhhhh, that is like a bean burrito fart in a crowded room without windows or doors.   :ahhh :ahhh :drink:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: pomsbz on June 01, 2019, 08:45:12 PM
Did I mention that I don't like cheese?  :D
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Don Pablo on June 01, 2019, 09:03:25 PM
Did I mention that I don't like cheese?  :D
:iagree:
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Nix on June 01, 2019, 09:21:51 PM
I wish more people didn't like cheese....perhaps then it would be less costly......  :ahhh
Title: Re: Vital question for America AKA The Great Grilled Cheese Conundrum
Post by: Don Pablo on June 01, 2019, 09:28:47 PM
I wish more people didn't like cheese....perhaps then it would be less costly......  :ahhh
or more!