While mice live for 2-3 years so studies can be done fast.
Question, speaking as someone who should ideally gain a little weight and doesn't know anything about fasting, do any of its potential benefits apply to me?
Question, speaking as someone who should ideally gain a little weight and doesn't know anything about fasting, do any of its potential benefits apply to me?
Question, speaking as someone who should ideally gain a little weight and doesn't know anything about fasting, do any of its potential benefits apply to me?
Do the exact opposite of what they show in the movie...
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What age? His profile clearly states that he is a 100 year old male! :twak:
:D
What age? His profile clearly states that he is a 100 year old male! :twak:
:D
That's in dog years conversion...
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Ah, ok. :cheers:Question, speaking as someone who should ideally gain a little weight and doesn't know anything about fasting, do any of its potential benefits apply to me?
not really, at this age, :twak:
glucose and blood sugar control, hormone production, lower cholesterol levels, hunger control and management, cellular renovation etc. are not concerns at your age and given your body profile and characteristics.
In fact, it could very well be counterproductive as at this age you need stable energy input for proper body growth and brain function, also the effects of fasting on muscle tissue depletion and destruction and its effects on cell growth, hormone reguation in young bodies and proper growth and developemnt of tissues and organs have not been studied enough,
especially on subjects of your age :ahhh
Even though Dr.Fung and others seem to believe that growth hormone production is enhanced during fasting and muscle tissue creation is in fact accelerated during these periods, their work and studies contradict those of others, and their conclusions do not agree with others from well known and reputable doctors and investigators :salute:
I’m approximately 5.7 x 108 seconds old, how’s that?What age? His profile clearly states that he is a 100 year old male! :twak:
:D
That's in dog years conversion...
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For smurfs sake! Can we all agree to stop using all the weird measurement systems and stick to SI units? :ahhh
:D
Question, speaking as someone who should ideally gain a little weight and doesn't know anything about fasting, do any of its potential benefits apply to me?
not really, at this age, :twak:
glucose and blood sugar control, hormone production, lower cholesterol levels, hunger control and management, cellular renovation etc. are not concerns at your age and given your body profile and characteristics.
Increased life expectancy, not sure how that works or if thats possible. I'm of the belief that quality of life or a healthy life can be had thru diet and exercise with out question. Smoking, drinking, over eating, or low quality diet are just one part of a unhealthy life. Lack of exercise and certainly an unhealthy mental/emotional life also needs to be factored in IMO. With the variety of diets people partake in I'm often skeptical of any real lasting change. I've always been of the mindset it needs to be a lifestyle change not just I'll quit eating bread, for example.
Slightly off topic, I found this talk fascinating http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018648768/dr-michael-mosley-on-gut-health .
I would look into gut health before I look at fasting.
Slightly off topic, I found this talk fascinating http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2018648768/dr-michael-mosley-on-gut-health .
I would look into gut health before I look at fasting.
I am taking more notice of the gut health thing because it is backed by scientific evidence, not just a fad put forth by nutritionists.
They make a very good argument for this compared to current wisdom, but (I'm not) sorry to say everybody that sells themselves as dietitians etc lost my attention and respect after what I experienced changing to LCHF, which they largely discredit..... :think:
Gerhard, I suppose you've already read the, but for interesting reading on LCHF and keto, I can recommend:
- The Big Fat Surprise (Nina Teicholz)
- Why We Get Fat, and What to do About It (Gary Taubes)
- Keto Clarity (Jimmy Moore)
these three I enjoyed a lot and I would consider cornerstones of the Keto publications and books about Low Carb :salute:
Gerhard, I suppose you've already read the, but for interesting reading on LCHF and keto, I can recommend:
- The Big Fat Surprise (Nina Teicholz)
- Why We Get Fat, and What to do About It (Gary Taubes)
- Keto Clarity (Jimmy Moore)
these three I enjoyed a lot and I would consider cornerstones of the Keto publications and books about Low Carb :salute:
No I haven't, but I'll look into them :salute:
I know about LCHF thanks to South African Dr Tim Noakes who is literally being persecuted and prosecuted about advice he gave.
I'm not a religious follower or blessed with exceptional will power, so I just cut bread and sugar completely, followed by whatever food I found made me "sick".
Not sure how combining low carb and fasting will go, but I think fasting combined with some of the carbs that don't have negative effects (potatoes?) might be worth looking into....
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
Gerhard, I suppose you've already read the, but for interesting reading on LCHF and keto, I can recommend:
- The Big Fat Surprise (Nina Teicholz)
- Why We Get Fat, and What to do About It (Gary Taubes)
- Keto Clarity (Jimmy Moore)
these three I enjoyed a lot and I would consider cornerstones of the Keto publications and books about Low Carb :salute:
No I haven't, but I'll look into them :salute:
I know about LCHF thanks to South African Dr Tim Noakes who is literally being persecuted and prosecuted about advice he gave.
I'm not a religious follower or blessed with exceptional will power, so I just cut bread and sugar completely, followed by whatever food I found made me "sick".
Not sure how combining low carb and fasting will go, but I think fasting combined with some of the carbs that don't have negative effects (potatoes?) might be worth looking into....
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
finally, no, potatoes are not a good carb in any way for this approach,
they're not good for LCHF because they are basically carbs, low fiber, have a big GI, a huge GL, :ahhh and are quickly and easily digested and absorbed thus spiking your blood sugar immensely :P
they're not good for fasting either because their easily absorbed carbs will lead to a rapid hormonal response (insulin secretion), they will be immediately digested and stored as fat if not burned, :-\ and soon you'll be hungry again, your energy levels will drop, :( and the few food you will have eaten in between fast will be barely nutritious (potatoes are really low in nutrients compared to almost any other vegetable, fruit, nightshade or plant based food) :facepalm:
Just my two cents on it,
there are hundreds of more nutritious, adequate and natural carbohydrates to eat instead of potatoes in between fasting periods, and in a LCHF diet :tu:
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
How well do you think that will go with all the heavy training you do? When I skip meals my strength takes a hit really fast. And I don't even go as heavy as you do. :ahhh
But then again I was always skinny so there is maybe a difference in how my body reacts to fasting. Though when I am a little older and the strategic energy reserves start to pile on I will also consider not eating every day because I think that will be easier for me compared to actually watching what I eat every single day... :D
I just need to qualify......yes, nothing fattens me up like potato, but at least I don't have an allergic reaction to it like all things bread........What about sourdough?
I just need to qualify......yes, nothing fattens me up like potato, but at least I don't have an allergic reaction to it like all things bread........What about sourdough?
I just need to qualify......yes, nothing fattens me up like potato, but at least I don't have an allergic reaction to it like all things bread........What about sourdough?
a bit back on topic, i've been thinking to include a 36 hour fast every 2 weeks
Wish I had your willpower...
:salute:Show contentThe best I can do is a 2 hour fast every 36 weeks!
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what no participants?
so, we have no participants for a Fasting Thread?I think I am to skinny to participate in a fasting challenge!
so, we have no participants for a Fasting Thread? :P
:popcorn:That's not how it works eamo. :twak:
:popcorn:That's not how it works eamo. :twak:
so, we have no participants for a Fasting Thread?I think I am to skinny to participate in a fasting challenge!
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I would rather concentrate on trying to eat the right foods than no food. :whistle:
so, we have no participants for a Fasting Thread? :P
I would at least watch, and might participate.
I assumed it was spelled with two "i" s..Behave! :twak:
we? not
some? I have no idea
I fast at least 8 hours every day. :tu:
I fast at least 8 hours every day. :tu:
so are we doing this?
I fast at least 8 hours every day. :tu:
23 to 7? :think:so are we doing this?
I am, if at least another person wants to try then we can make a thread on it :salute:
How did you guess? :DI fast at least 8 hours every day. :tu:
23 to 7? :think:
I fast at least 8 hours every day. :tu:I quit smoking every evening!
i'm game. we gonna go intermittent fast 16 to 18 hour fast and 8 to 6 hour of possibility to eat or full day fast. and is coffee breaking the fast or not?
How did you guess? :D
It is clear that we need to eat. We need fats, carbs, and proteins.
But there are good and bad examples of each.
Instead of low carb diets, try low sugar diets.
Eat less meat and more fish.
Eat as many fruits and veggies as you like.
And don´t eat junk food and ready-made meals that have way too much salt.
I´m 56 years old and healthy. My weight is just below 80kg. With a length of 1.80m my BMI is excellent.
Edit. I forgot this: don´t eat more calories than you can burn! Keep moving!
Now that you brought them up... What are the healthiest legumes? :think:
And the healthiest way to prepare them? The ones that come cooked in cans from the shop? Or soaking and cooking dried legumes at home?
Now that you brought them up... What are the healthiest legumes? :think:
And the healthiest way to prepare them? The ones that come cooked in cans from the shop? Or soaking and cooking dried legumes at home?
I don't know. I simply eat the ones I like. :like: :D
As for preparation I guess the ones you make at home?
well i'm in. and yes i drink pure black coffee without additions to it
Now that you brought them up... What are the healthiest legumes? :think:I buy tinned legumes because I can't be bothered soaking dry ones, although it would be a lot cheaper.
And the healthiest way to prepare them? The ones that come cooked in cans from the shop? Or soaking and cooking dried legumes at home?
I haven’t tried that. :think:Now that you brought them up... What are the healthiest legumes? :think:I buy tinned legumes because I can't be bothered soaking dry ones, although it would be a lot cheaper.
And the healthiest way to prepare them? The ones that come cooked in cans from the shop? Or soaking and cooking dried legumes at home?
I put lentils in with pasta sauce (instead of mince), also can be used as the mince part of a shepherd's pie.
I put chickpeas in with (Indian) curries - chickpea and spinach is a good combo.
Have you tried felafel?
Well I'm in, obviously, but I'm working up to it in my usual way.
I prefer my coffee black and bitter......dark roast, but I started adding full cream to the first few....source of fat.
I could easily ditch the cream, but I do believe coffee counts as breaking the fast, at least that's what I seem to remember from docu.
That said, they might assume most people don't drink black & bitter.
And thus MTO turns in to a pro-ana forum... :rofl:
And thus MTO turns in to a pro-ana forum... :rofl:
I guess not, unless you do that yourself ???
there are other places for that kind of talk
My Grandmother thinks I'm too skinny...And thus MTO turns in to a pro-ana forum... :rofl:
I guess not, unless you do that yourself ???
there are other places for that kind of talk
Well, I was accused of being malnurished several times during highschool by my GP. :facepalm:
My Grandmother thinks I'm too skinny...And thus MTO turns in to a pro-ana forum... :rofl:
I guess not, unless you do that yourself ???
there are other places for that kind of talk
Well, I was accused of being malnurished several times during highschool by my GP. :facepalm:
:rofl:My Grandmother thinks I'm too skinny...And thus MTO turns in to a pro-ana forum... :rofl:
I guess not, unless you do that yourself ???
there are other places for that kind of talk
Well, I was accused of being malnurished several times during highschool by my GP. :facepalm:
Don't they all? My has this gesture where she sucks in her cheeks and repeatedli pokes them with her index fingers. I suppose it is suposed to mean that I have sunken cheeks from being too thin... :facepalm: :rofl:
that's an easy fix
I weighed as much as 2 or 3 people during most of my life.......would like to come down to the weight of just one really big human :rofl:I think of you as a tall guy... Am I accurate? :think:
My mother is a feeder....... :facepalm:
I think of you as a tall guy... Am I accurate? :think:
Yup it does.... :tu: a healthy weight for you is overweight for a short person?I think of you as a tall guy... Am I accurate? :think:
1.95m
I would say big rather than tall, considering bone structure.
IMO I looked liked a scaled up "normal" person rather than tall.....if that makes sense :rofl:
Yup it does.... :tu: a healthy weight for you is overweight for a short person?I think of you as a tall guy... Am I accurate? :think:
1.95m
I would say big rather than tall, considering bone structure.
IMO I looked liked a scaled up "normal" person rather than tall.....if that makes sense :rofl:
I know that, but I wasn’t sure how to write it. :think: :tu:Yup it does.... :tu: a healthy weight for you is overweight for a short person?I think of you as a tall guy... Am I accurate? :think:
1.95m
I would say big rather than tall, considering bone structure.
IMO I looked liked a scaled up "normal" person rather than tall.....if that makes sense :rofl:
...obviously? ???
And if he were 2.30m, then even more.
If he were 1.50 m, then the opposite
That's exactly what BMI is for :pok:
Problem is currently I'm 133kg, so I know I can drop 30kg's and feel much better......
Problem is currently I'm 133kg, so I know I can drop 30kg's and feel much better......
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It's called weight training. :whistle:
Problem is currently I'm 133kg, so I know I can drop 30kg's and feel much better......
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Fat, within limits, makes you strong. Not sure if "strong" is the right word.......more destructive seems right :salute:
well my next goal is to hit 90kg. about 98kg currently on me. the more serious problem is that i can't really cut calories drastically during the summer as that coupled with the heat tends to drain me
:facepalm:
LCHF because how good HF tastes :rofl:
Fat is the main regulator and activator of hormones. Absent fat, people generally have greater hormone imbalances, loss of hormone production and low hormone levels of testosterone, growth hormone, leptin, ghrelin, serotonin and adrenaline.Very interesting.... so the best (healthiest) way to gain fat is..... to eat fat?
As opposed to eating too many carbs and protein? :think:Fat is the main regulator and activator of hormones. Absent fat, people generally have greater hormone imbalances, loss of hormone production and low hormone levels of testosterone, growth hormone, leptin, ghrelin, serotonin and adrenaline.Very interesting.... so the best (healthiest) way to gain fat is..... to eat fat?
We know we can get fat by eating lots of sugar and carbs. Dunno about protein...As opposed to eating too many carbs and protein? :think:Fat is the main regulator and activator of hormones. Absent fat, people generally have greater hormone imbalances, loss of hormone production and low hormone levels of testosterone, growth hormone, leptin, ghrelin, serotonin and adrenaline.Very interesting.... so the best (healthiest) way to gain fat is..... to eat fat?
As opposed to eating too many carbs and protein? :think:
Very interesting.... so the best (healthiest) way to gain fat is..... to eat fat?
Thanks for the explanation. :tu:
I have a friend who has lost a lot of weight (unintentionally) and has possible hormonal and serotonin issues.
I just lost 120 pounds!
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
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I just lost 120 pounds!
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
congrats. or condolences
I just lost 120 pounds!
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
congrats. or condolences
A little bit of both...
8) 8)
I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Which means she was quite in shape...
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Which means she was quite in shape...
not if she was under 150cm tall
Protein is the second slowest digesting nutrient (very close to fat) and often considered the most sating, but its relative price is the highest and high-protein diets are proven to be expensive and toxic in the long term :ahhh
In fact there is no animal in the world that basically feeds on protein (even the meat eaters, big carnivores and wild predators, they feed mostly on fatty meat pieces and big chunks of non-muscle tissue), they either prefer carbohydrates (herbivores and many others, omnivores too) or fat (big cats and felines, fish, birds) to comprise most of their caloric intake ;)
Protein is the second slowest digesting nutrient (very close to fat) and often considered the most sating, but its relative price is the highest and high-protein diets are proven to be expensive and toxic in the long term :ahhh
In fact there is no animal in the world that basically feeds on protein (even the meat eaters, big carnivores and wild predators, they feed mostly on fatty meat pieces and big chunks of non-muscle tissue), they either prefer carbohydrates (herbivores and many others, omnivores too) or fat (big cats and felines, fish, birds) to comprise most of their caloric intake ;)
That may be a bit too general.
Most wild animals are relatively lean. And many predators don't get to eat much fatty protein. It is true that most predators will preferentially eat organ meats, which do have a higher fat content, and frequently, a high nutrient content. Predators will often eat partially digested plant-based foods from the stomach and intestines of prey animals. So, they do get some carbohydrate that way.
But, there are humans, e.g. Inuit, who eat primarily protein and fat. Very little carbohydrate at all. And are very healthy....until they start eating a 'Western Diet' with lots of carbs.
Many people have demonstrated that it is possible to live quite nicely on just meat. Meat with some fat content. I'm not aware of anything that suggests pure protein becomes 'toxic' over time. A lack of essential fatty acids leads to nutritional deficiencies, but a high protein diet is not inherently problematic.
The early studies that led some people to think that protein might cause kidney issues came from force feeding rabbit high protein diets. Well, rabbits aren't designed to eat protein, and feeding rabbits an unnatural diet proved to be a problem.
But for humans, an all meat diet is not a problem as long as there is enough fat in the diet to meet nutritional requirements. The term "Rabbit Starvation" is an example of an all-meat diet that is so low in fatty acids that nutritional requirements aren't met.
Humans require 'essential' amino acids (proteins) and fatty acids (fats), but there is no carbohydrate requirement.
I thought this was the fasting thread.... :think:
so please help me figure this out - 1you said 18-6 right? I usually get to the gym around 18:30 to 19:00 and don't get back home before 21:00. this will all change for the next month since I'll be going to a different gym, but that is still the best outlier.
if I cap off the eating window at 22:00 that means it starts at 16:00, which means going through almost the entire day on a coffee or 2 and water. this is a bit concerning since I get up around 7, work 'till 17:00
if I say end the eating window at 20:00, it would start at 14:00 which is great2 (since that is about the time I eat lunch at work anyway), however it would also mean that after the gym there is no meal and logistically 3a bit more concerning managing to put all the meals while i'm at work (i squat 3 times a week and if i eat something in the hour before it tends to lead to wanting to hurl, especially if it is a max effort or around 90% squat which also means I've got a belt on tight)
To give a few figures, I should be eating a baseline of 42000 kcal to be in a caloric deficit plus what ever I spend on cardio (walking to and from work, to and from the gym). Gym days that means 880 extra kcal, off days that means 440 extra kcal. Again, for the next month all days will be calculated as off days since that temporary gym is close to my work.
That would bean hitting 52400kcal a day, breaking it down to 3 meals would be 800kcal 6which is oddly difficult when you're trying to eat clean (no sugar, carbs from potatoes, rice, vegetables and fruit, using leaner meats).
I have a feeling that this will result in me being one of those guys that packs a mini fridge to work and 7eats every 2 hours like a baby
Actually I had a very hard time eating clean and reaching a specific caloric goal. A big part of that is the lack of availability or ridiculously high cost of some foods that would help out without putting in horrid amounts of the not so good micronutrients. It is one of the reasons why even trying keto for myself for instance is a really bad idea since most of my pay would go on food.
3- I, and many millions of people, do not eat while at work, or have jobs/job sites/environments where it is harder to find a break for eating. I advise you to consider not eating at all during your work hours to improve your efficiency and save time, but I do not know what, where or when do you work ??? or what does your job demand of you :think:
I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
I was suggesting she was paid. ::)
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Which means she was quite in shape...
not if she was under 150cm tall
So you're going to start a fasting thread? I'm in!
Actually I had a very hard time eating clean and reaching a specific caloric goal.
availability or ridiculously high cost of some foods that would help out without putting in horrid amounts of the not so good micronutrients.
It is one of the reasons why even trying keto for myself for instance is a really bad idea since most of my pay would go on food.
I think I'll give it a go in the 16-8 format from 14:00 to 22:00 as that will give me enough options put those calories in (yes, I'm very concerned about yo-yoing and going too fast)
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Which means she was quite in shape...
not if she was under 150cm tall
Of course she was in shape!
:twak: :twak:Show contentRound is a shape, you know?!
:pok: :pok:
Actually I had a very hard time eating clean and reaching a specific caloric goal.
availability or ridiculously high cost of some foods that would help out without putting in horrid amounts of the not so good micronutrients.
It is one of the reasons why even trying keto for myself for instance is a really bad idea since most of my pay would go on food.
I think I'll give it a go in the 16-8 format from 14:00 to 22:00 as that will give me enough options put those calories in (yes, I'm very concerned about yo-yoing and going too fast)
Caloric goals, whether they are noticeably higher than your average or lower than it, are hard to reach if one doesn't follow closely :ahhh
As for nutrient rich foods on a budget:
Vegetables. They are cheap (in season), full of micronutrients absent anti nutrients (for the most part) and go well with almost any other food
You can buy a bunch of olive oil in big bottles, and veggies with olive oil are easy, quick, portable and nutritious :tu:
Living in Croatia (sorry for the world cup :P) Olive oil should not be expensive, and is keto-friendly (as are many vegetables) :salute:
Nuts. Lots of protein, healthy fats, fiber, packable(portable, easy to carry and snack on) and very small amounts are highly caloric and tasty. Cashews, pecans, walnuts, almonds, hazelnuts, pistachio nuts and peanuts (though they are a legume) are all good and available most everywhere :gimme: And most of these are naturally low in carbs
Eggs, Turkey, Ham, and other sources of protein with high quality amino-acids and excellent nutritional profiles can be had cheap, quick and ready with a bit of planning and appropriate cooking ;) No or almost no carbs, good fat and protein :cheers:
a good, organised fridge and storage room go along way in making healthy eating inexpensive, ready, easy and portable
OFC it's much more complex than that, but those are some key points
and finally, going too fast is never good, be it to gain weight, lose weight, eat healthier, eat better, or change your diet on the whole :P
One ha to go step by step, slow but strong :2tu:
Actually I had a very hard time eating clean and reaching a specific caloric goal.
availability or ridiculously high cost of some foods that would help out without putting in horrid amounts of the not so good micronutrients.
It is one of the reasons why even trying keto for myself for instance is a really bad idea since most of my pay would go on food.
I think I'll give it a go in the 16-8 format from 14:00 to 22:00 as that will give me enough options put those calories in (yes, I'm very concerned about yo-yoing and going too fast)
Caloric goals, whether they are noticeably higher than your average or lower than it, are hard to reach if one doesn't follow closely :ahhh
As for nutrient rich foods on a budget:
Vegetables. They are cheap (in season), full of micronutrients absent anti nutrients (for the most part) and go well with almost any other food
You can buy a bunch of olive oil in big bottles, and veggies with olive oil are easy, quick, portable and nutritious :tu:
Living in Croatia (sorry for the world cup :P) Olive oil should not be expensive, and is keto-friendly (as are many vegetables) :salute:
Nuts. Lots of protein, healthy fats, fiber, packable(portable, easy to carry and snack on) and very small amounts are highly caloric and tasty. Cashews, pecans, walnuts, almonds, hazelnuts, pistachio nuts and peanuts (though they are a legume) are all good and available most everywhere :gimme: And most of these are naturally low in carbs
Eggs, Turkey, Ham, and other sources of protein with high quality amino-acids and excellent nutritional profiles can be had cheap, quick and ready with a bit of planning and appropriate cooking ;) No or almost no carbs, good fat and protein :cheers:
a good, organised fridge and storage room go along way in making healthy eating inexpensive, ready, easy and portable
OFC it's much more complex than that, but those are some key points
and finally, going too fast is never good, be it to gain weight, lose weight, eat healthier, eat better, or change your diet on the whole :P
One ha to go step by step, slow but strong :2tu:
you'd be surprised by some of the things that should be inexpensive but aren't. now i'm going off work so i'll have to add on later
Maybe his gf weighed 120 pounds?I just lost 120 pounds!I thought you used Euros there, not pounds...
8) 8)Show contentI broke up wityh my girlfriend...
:whistle:
Which means she was quite in shape...
not if she was under 150cm tall
Of course she was in shape!
:twak: :twak:Show contentRound is a shape, you know?!
:pok: :pok:
Are you guys trying to lose weight ? :think: