Post by: Syem on October 04, 2018, 12:59:41 AM
I've carried soldiers before in my 93mm Alox month but let's mix things up:
- Any soldier is OK (even other countries but only V and W knives)
- Any non-soldier model but with a toolset & structure identical to that of a Swiss Soldier's knife is OK. (Pioneer, Trekker, civilian 1908 or 1951 etc...)
- Only brands that have supplied knives to the Swiss army are authorized (i.e. no 1908 knock-offs but if the maker was an official supplier for the Swiss Army (wasn't just V and W) then it's good; even without a year stamp - refer to the lists on this website (https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1890) for the full brands list... and please someone post one of these uncommon non-W-or-V knives ::) )
The challenge is starting tomorrow, Thursday the 4th of October, but anyone can join until the 11th.
As far as incentives go for joining me in this month's challenge:
- There's a badge for "EDC a different SAK every day for 30 days" which you could get if you don't have it
- All pre 09 soldiers are 2 layers...you could get the Minimalist badge if you only carried those
- You could revel in the fact that you're joining me in this historical event that is "the first person to carry a different SAK every day for a whole year" (and document it?)
- I may decide to do a giveaway if multiple people join me this month (you don't have to do the whole month if you can't)
- I will definitely do a giveaway at the end of the year including everyone that joined in during the year (for at least a whole week) in the draw
I'll keep counting the knives towards my year so 273 to 304.
I'll be once more following the guidelines I set out in month #2 (copy-pasted below). (yada yada yada)
Code: (Some ground rules for the challenges:) [Select]
- Carrying/using multiple SAKs simultaneously is ok but we're counting the days and not the knives.
- Need to carry at least one "not carried in this challenge yet" knife every day. (if you're not doing the whole year with me, feel free to reset your list after each month)
- Since this will go on for at least a whole year, breaks are allowed but only due to carry restrictions while travelling or because of hospitalization. Just pick up where you left off once you're back.
- Exact duplicates are allowed but not twice in a row. (do not count as exact duplicates: variations in generations/tool evolution, scale & crest - type & shape & color, wear/damage, inlays/engravings and the likes. Basically, as long as we can tell them apart, it's ok to post them twice in a row). Posting a pic of the duplicates together before carrying them is strongly suggested.For the record, here's the list of topics for the previous 9 months:
- month 1 [misc] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75292.0.html)
- month 2 [84/85mm Alox] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75698.0.html)
- month 3 [Metal 74mm/Minimalist] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76240.0.html)
- month 4 [65mm] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,76721.0.html)
- month 5 [58mm] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77200.0.html)
- month 6 [93mm Alox] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77592.0.html)
- month 7 [85mm Wenger] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,77902.0.html)
- month 8 [84mm Victorinox] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,78290.0.html)
- month 9 [91mm Victorinox] (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,78653.0.html)
Post by: Syem on October 04, 2018, 10:20:39 PM
Elsener '1890' model
My oldest sak, in front of the oldest boat on the lake. "La Neptune" dates from 1904.
(https://image.ibb.co/fjRPye/PSX_20181004_221736.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/fjRPye/PSX_20181004_221736.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/jPXxJe/PSX_20181004_221507.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/jPXxJe/PSX_20181004_221507.jpg)
Post by: koke on October 04, 2018, 10:47:36 PM
Fresh pictures!!!
Post by: NutSAK on October 04, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
Enjoy! :cheers:
Post by: Rapidray on October 04, 2018, 11:43:27 PM
Post by: VICMAN on October 05, 2018, 01:26:09 AM
Day 273
Elsener '1890' model
My oldest sak, in front of the oldest boat on the lake. "La Neptune" dates from 1904.
Cool pic and SAK Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: fred2892 on October 05, 2018, 10:05:55 AM
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Post by: Borg on October 05, 2018, 06:44:26 PM
Post by: koke on October 05, 2018, 06:50:28 PM
And I haven't finished the previous one :think:
I'll post some pics later on this month
Post by: Borg on October 05, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Post by: koke on October 05, 2018, 07:46:27 PM
I only have 5 or so and a pile of Pioneers but don't have much time again this month, i can't believe how quick this year is going :(
Really quick!!!
I'd love to see your pioneers family picture :dd:
Post by: Syem on October 05, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
And please post your beauties even if it's not 30 (or 31) of thembl and even if it's not every day.
Post by: Syem on October 05, 2018, 08:38:08 PM
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
(https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on October 05, 2018, 10:11:54 PM
Day 274
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
Nice Soldier Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on October 06, 2018, 12:51:31 AM
Day 274Well for a 111 years old, its is still a head turner! :like:
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
(https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg)
Post by: ThePeacent on October 06, 2018, 04:41:54 PM
Day 274Well for a 111 years old, its is still a head turner! :like:
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
I wish I looked that good at 111 years old! :D
Post by: koke on October 06, 2018, 11:10:04 PM
Day 274
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
:ahhh :like:
Post by: Syem on October 07, 2018, 01:30:29 AM
Victorinox Pioneer - Black with red crest
I was thinking of going chronological but figured it'd be a bit funnier to mix things up a bit. This has the last kind of Alox Soldier toolset.
(https://image.ibb.co/ccV3w9/20181007_002752.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ccV3w9/20181007_002752.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 07, 2018, 02:14:22 AM
Day 275Nice one. :tu:
Victorinox Pioneer - Black with red crest
I was thinking of going chronological but figured it'd be a bit funnier to mix things up a bit. This has the last kind of Alox Soldier toolset.
(https://image.ibb.co/ccV3w9/20181007_002752.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ccV3w9/20181007_002752.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 07, 2018, 10:59:38 PM
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1963
(https://image.ibb.co/dwCdg9/PSX_20181007_225730.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dwCdg9/PSX_20181007_225730.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/haLmZU/PSX_20181007_225746.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/haLmZU/PSX_20181007_225746.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 08, 2018, 12:11:54 AM
Day 276Nice photos of a great looking SAK!
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1963
(https://image.ibb.co/dwCdg9/PSX_20181007_225730.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dwCdg9/PSX_20181007_225730.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/haLmZU/PSX_20181007_225746.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/haLmZU/PSX_20181007_225746.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on October 08, 2018, 07:15:19 PM
Day 275
Victorinox Pioneer - Black with red crest
Nice Pioneer Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 08, 2018, 07:18:09 PM
Day 276
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1963
Nice Wenger Soldier Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: koke on October 08, 2018, 11:37:11 PM
Post by: koke on October 08, 2018, 11:49:46 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181008/8041fbc214b77a4f9b351ffa8df76c69.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181008/adc8184bf3f230898dadc151f6acc665.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 09, 2018, 12:10:25 AM
Black tools slide lock outrider!!!
Woah! That counts! Awesome! :gimme:
Post by: Syem on October 09, 2018, 12:12:58 AM
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1983
(https://image.ibb.co/dYKnb9/20181009_000634.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dYKnb9/20181009_000634.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/c9H7b9/20181009_000650.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/c9H7b9/20181009_000650.jpg)
Post by: McStitchy on October 09, 2018, 12:25:49 AM
Post by: Rapidray on October 09, 2018, 01:43:08 AM
Post by: ulli on October 09, 2018, 07:53:10 AM
Day 274
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
(https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mgqote/20181005_150227.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cUPgDe/20181005_150158.jpg)
Its a soldier model nr 1908 not 1901. That you can see from the shape of the blade. That means its age is maximun 110 years :-)
That cross stamp was used between 1901 abd 1915, so your knife is between 1908 and 1915.
Post by: VICMAN on October 09, 2018, 08:56:35 PM
Black tools slide lock outrider!!!
Nice SAK koke! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 09, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
Day 277
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1983
Nice Wenger Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 09, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
Day 274
Elsener Soldier - 1890 model, 1901 variant
(no year stamp but it has the old circle-less cross army quality control stamp from the 1901-1907 period. This knife is at least 111 years old)
Its a soldier model nr 1908 not 1901. That you can see from the shape of the blade. That means its age is maximun 110 years :-)
That cross stamp was used between 1901 abd 1915, so your knife is between 1908 and 1915.
Thanks for the info!
I didn't notice the circle-less cross stamp on the 1908 page in my book.. And they don't show the blade shapes in there... I'll add this to the long list of labeling mistakes from the year ^^
Post by: Syem on October 10, 2018, 01:12:42 AM
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - pre 1921
This one looks absolutely mint from top to bottom apart from the blade which definitely looks restored. The scales are just perfect and the brass is shiny all the way including inside the knife.
This leads me to believe this knife was restored by Victorinox(or maybe Wenger if this was done a while ago) with custom-made scales. What surprises me is the WK+ stamp... Does anyone know if Vic can apply the stamp to restored/rebuilt knives?
Also I dont think I've seen this front/back tang-stamp combination on non-civilian 1908s...
(https://image.ibb.co/hpTxB9/20181010_004821.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hpTxB9/20181010_004821.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kXgHB9/20181010_004837_2.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kXgHB9/20181010_004837_2.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 10, 2018, 01:21:26 AM
Post by: McStitchy on October 10, 2018, 01:43:13 AM
Post by: VICMAN on October 10, 2018, 03:15:52 PM
Day 278
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - pre 1921
Nice Wenger Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Borg on October 10, 2018, 06:30:07 PM
96
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1939/45227057161_d1e29dc1e3.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 11, 2018, 02:34:39 AM
What a beauty :like: i suppose its also possible that it's been in a drawer all its life and used now and again to open boxes, i have an old race knife around the same age that looks brand new, it has horn handles so that might make a difference, i think it all depends on who owned it and what use it got.The brass should still have tarnished a bit, no? I'll post another picture of it tomorrow...
96
Nice 96 btw!
Post by: Syem on October 11, 2018, 02:37:23 AM
Victorinox Pioneer Nespresso #3 - Dharkan
(https://image.ibb.co/cWWoop/20181011_022843.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cWWoop/20181011_022843.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 11, 2018, 02:47:15 AM
Day 279Very nice... :like: a lot :cheers:
Victorinox Pioneer Nespresso #3 - Dharkan
(https://image.ibb.co/cWWoop/20181011_022843.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cWWoop/20181011_022843.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on October 11, 2018, 11:47:12 PM
What a beauty :like: i suppose its also possible that it's been in a drawer all its life and used now and again to open boxes, i have an old race knife around the same age that looks brand new, it has horn handles so that might make a difference, i think it all depends on who owned it and what use it got.
Great pic Borg! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 11, 2018, 11:48:08 PM
Day 279
Victorinox Pioneer Nespresso #3 - Dharkan
Cool Pioneer Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 12, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - 1939
(https://image.ibb.co/k2COpU/20181011-175313.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/k2COpU/20181011-175313.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/j6tk3p/20181011-175344.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/j6tk3p/20181011-175344.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b4cZw9/20181011-173207.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/b4cZw9/20181011-173207.jpg)
New wall of classics at the Geneva flagship store :) (previous pics are in a small shop, not the flagship store)
Post by: Rapidray on October 12, 2018, 01:00:55 AM
Day 280Wall of classics is great! Like the ‘39 also. :tu:
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - 1939
(https://image.ibb.co/k2COpU/20181011-175313.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/k2COpU/20181011-175313.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/j6tk3p/20181011-175344.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/j6tk3p/20181011-175344.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b4cZw9/20181011-173207.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/b4cZw9/20181011-173207.jpg)
New wall of classics at the Geneva flagship store :) (previous pics are in a small shop, not the flagship store)
Post by: VICMAN on October 12, 2018, 01:46:44 AM
Day 280
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - 1939
New wall of classics at the Geneva flagship store :) (previous pics are in a small shop, not the flagship store)
Very nice Wenger Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Cool pic of the wall of Classics! :cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 12, 2018, 02:35:43 AM
Post by: Rapidray on October 12, 2018, 03:07:31 AM
710 Classics on the wall. I opened a few; they're all working it seems :)710...thats a lot of classics! :cheers:
Post by: koke on October 12, 2018, 08:14:38 AM
Day 280
Wenger Soldier '1908' model - 1939
New wall of classics at the Geneva flagship store :) (previous pics are in a small shop, not the flagship store)
:ahhh :like:
Great '39 and nice picture background !!!
That classics wall is cool too
Post by: koke on October 12, 2018, 08:17:45 AM
Day 279
Victorinox Pioneer Nespresso #3 - Dharkan
Really beautiful!!!
I didn't know that you were considering pioneers as soldier-like knives... In that case I might have joined you this month as well :facepalm:
Post by: koke on October 12, 2018, 08:26:14 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/525d6b732f7aac35bab3b33d568eb89d.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/0d76776f28b52a750ee12636e1f88b7f.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/82eab3498f7c92ed7591b82845bcbaa3.jpg)
:cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 12, 2018, 11:18:41 AM
Thanks!Day 279
Victorinox Pioneer Nespresso #3 - Dharkan
Really beautiful!!!
I didn't know that you were considering pioneers as soldier-like knives... In that case I might have joined you this month as well :facepalm:
I did mention it in my OP though... Maybe it was a bit of a confusing OP...
Post by: VICMAN on October 12, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
I've been carrying theses lasts days my birthday year knife ... Really cool!!!
Nice pics koke! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on October 12, 2018, 02:20:01 PM
I've been carrying theses lasts days my birthday year knife ... Really cool!!!Great photos and your BYSAK no less! :like: :like:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/525d6b732f7aac35bab3b33d568eb89d.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/0d76776f28b52a750ee12636e1f88b7f.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181012/82eab3498f7c92ed7591b82845bcbaa3.jpg)
:cheers:
Post by: Borg on October 12, 2018, 10:33:06 PM
I will carry mine tomorrow as its been a big neglected lately
Thanks Vicman :salute:
Post by: Syem on October 13, 2018, 01:21:24 AM
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1989
Brand smurfing new; What a pleasure to carry a piece like this!
(https://image.ibb.co/evy88p/20181013-005548.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/evy88p/20181013-005548.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/fPY88p/20181013-005558.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/fPY88p/20181013-005558.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 13, 2018, 01:23:32 AM
Nice Bysaks Syem and koke :like:Thanks but I'm not that old ^^
I will carry mine tomorrow as its been a big neglected lately
Thanks Vicman :salute:
Post by: Borg on October 13, 2018, 02:33:22 AM
And i wasn't being serious about your Bysak :angel:
Post by: VICMAN on October 13, 2018, 07:00:25 PM
Day 281
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1989
Brand smurfing new; What a pleasure to carry a piece like this!
Nice 1989 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Borg on October 14, 2018, 12:32:05 AM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1965/45299249001_622ebe1674.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 14, 2018, 03:03:57 AM
69Beautiful picture! But where's the second one?
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1965/45299249001_622ebe1674.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 14, 2018, 03:07:21 AM
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1950
Don't know if they kept making them in 51 (like the 2008 overlap) or if its one of the last of these great knives...
Does anyone have any idea what that yellowish blemish could be on the back of the blade? Looks a bit like someone brassed this part...
(https://image.ibb.co/bKtgyp/20181014-025647.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/bKtgyp/20181014-025647.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/fDfTdp/20181014-025712.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/fDfTdp/20181014-025712.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 14, 2018, 03:13:46 AM
Post by: Syem on October 14, 2018, 09:17:02 AM
Nice...I don’t know about the yellow spot. My first thought was a chemical stain. Will you be sending it in for a spa treatment?That's definitely possible; Some other tools have minor yellow stains too...
About the spa I dont think I will at this point; ive just brought them 9 knives the othet day and I have more pieces in a critical state. This guy wouldn't need much and I probably could do it myself. Also, they cant easily service these older models as they have to break the scales to open the knives up. They can rebuild scales but it costs a lot and I'm not sure they can put back the army control stamp...
Post by: Rapidray on October 14, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Nice...I don’t know about the yellow spot. My first thought was a chemical stain. Will you be sending it in for a spa treatment?That's definitely possible; Some other tools have minor yellow stains too...
About the spa I dont think I will at this point; ive just brought them 9 knives the othet day and I have more pieces in a critical state. This guy wouldn't need much and I probably could do it myself. Also, they cant easily service these older models as they have to break the scales to open the knives up. They can rebuild scales but it costs a lot and I'm not sure they can put back the army control stamp...
I was wondering about the scales. Thanks for the information. :cheers:
Post by: VICMAN on October 14, 2018, 08:18:09 PM
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Nice pic Borg! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 14, 2018, 08:19:00 PM
Day 282Nice Soldier Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1950
Don't know if they kept making them in 51 (like the 2008 overlap) or if its one of the last of these great knives...
Does anyone have any idea what that yellowish blemish could be on the back of the blade? Looks a bit like someone brassed this part...
Post by: Syem on October 15, 2018, 03:34:27 AM
Victorinox Pioneer - 2018 Limited Edition - Berry Red
(https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dvfmFf/20181014-161120.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dvfmFf/20181014-161120.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 15, 2018, 03:48:10 AM
Day 283
Victorinox Pioneer - 2018 Limited Edition - Berry Red
(https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dvfmFf/20181014-161120.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dvfmFf/20181014-161120.jpg)
Are you saying your dog, (which is very nice :tu: ) has a BYSAK???
Post by: Fuzzbucket on October 15, 2018, 11:23:30 AM
Day 283
Victorinox Pioneer - 2018 Limited Edition - Berry Red
...
Are you saying your dog, (which is very nice :tu: ) has a BYSAK???
It's so fuzzy!!! :ahhh The Berry Reds are growing on me quite a bit, I wasn't sure about them at first.
Post by: VICMAN on October 15, 2018, 06:54:27 PM
Day 283
Victorinox Pioneer - 2018 Limited Edition - Berry Red
Great pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Beautiful dog! :cheers:
Post by: koke on October 15, 2018, 09:48:49 PM
Day 283
Victorinox Pioneer - 2018 Limited Edition - Berry Red
(https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/coJHML/20181014-161033.jpg)
Lovely picture... :like:
Don't try to take away my bone !!!!
Post by: Syem on October 16, 2018, 02:15:40 AM
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1965
(https://image.ibb.co/faHaRL/20181016-020957.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/faHaRL/20181016-020957.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/g76r0f/20181016-021005.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/g76r0f/20181016-021005.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 16, 2018, 02:19:18 AM
Day 284So many nice knives! :like: :hatsoff:
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1965
(https://image.ibb.co/faHaRL/20181016-020957.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/faHaRL/20181016-020957.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/g76r0f/20181016-021005.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/g76r0f/20181016-021005.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 16, 2018, 02:22:22 AM
Are you saying your dog, (which is very nice :tu: ) has a BYSAK???
It would have to be the 2015 one for him... But for my yet-unborn son this will work ^^
I don't know if these LE count as BYSAK though. Do they?
It's so fuzzy!!! :ahhh The Berry Reds are growing on me quite a bit, I wasn't sure about them at first.
Same here. I was disappointed by the fact they picked red at first but it's actually quite nice!
Great pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:Thanks VICMAN! He knows he's beautiful and takes advantage of it at every turn ^^
Beautiful dog! :cheers:
Lovely picture... :like:
Don't try to take away my bone !!!!
I was actually luckky he didnt notice it or else he would have found a way to ruin the picture :)
Post by: Syem on October 16, 2018, 02:35:18 AM
So many nice knives! :like: :hatsoff:
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
Post by: Rapidray on October 16, 2018, 02:46:53 AM
:sa: wow, now that’s a lot of knives! Thank you for sharing with us.So many nice knives! :like: :hatsoff:
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
Post by: koke on October 16, 2018, 10:34:36 PM
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
:ahhh don't talk about a family picture then :facepalm:
Post by: Rapidray on October 16, 2018, 11:15:20 PM
:rofl: I hear that!
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
:ahhh don't talk about a family picture then :facepalm:
Post by: Syem on October 17, 2018, 01:03:00 AM
I could have a crate filled with them on one of those big scales... and take a picture of that! Wont see many knives though ^^:rofl: I hear that!
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
:ahhh don't talk about a family picture then :facepalm:
Post by: Syem on October 17, 2018, 02:22:49 AM
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1985
My first BYSAK :)
(https://image.ibb.co/h6qDFf/20181017-011836.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/h6qDFf/20181017-011836.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/iG3B1L/20181017-011851.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/iG3B1L/20181017-011851.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 17, 2018, 02:45:07 AM
:dd: ok...how about...you do a special thread where you post a SAK everyday for a full year!...”Syem Soilders”...or “Syem SAK”...that would be a thread I would visit everyday! :tu:I could have a crate filled with them on one of those big scales... and take a picture of that! Wont see many knives though ^^:rofl: I hear that!
Thanks! I think that's the best-looking red alox soldier I have.
Sad thing is I've got so many knives now I could do another year and still not have used them all...
:ahhh don't talk about a family picture then :facepalm:
Post by: VICMAN on October 17, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
Day 285
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1985
My first BYSAK :)
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: koke on October 17, 2018, 11:13:50 PM
Day 285
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1985
My first BYSAK :)
First???? There are others? :ahhh
I was wondering which would be your BYSak... You're a youngster!!!
Great pics!!!
Post by: koke on October 17, 2018, 11:19:30 PM
GAK ... 108mm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/5b24bddc205ce6d3125f1bca3ac3be75.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/bb23cae3201eb1f68c6ad14bc87044dd.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/29c55ef18fa2e5dedaf2795262bf57f1.jpg)
:cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 18, 2018, 12:23:58 AM
:dd: ok...how about...you do a special thread where you post a SAK everyday for a full year!...”Syem Soilders”...or “Syem SAK”...that would be a thread I would visit everyday! :tu:
I don't have that many soldiers...
And I am doing a full year at the moment... Just in 12 separate threads :D honestly I dont think I'd be up for another year and as much fun as this is I'm looking forward to the end. Also I miss some knives I carried in month 1.
I'll probably do other challenges in the future but not of that scale :D
Post by: Syem on October 18, 2018, 12:31:22 AM
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thanks VICMAN!
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2018, 12:36:03 AM
Yes I can see a full year being very demanding. You are going a great job! Thanks for sharing and taking us along! :hatsoff::dd: ok...how about...you do a special thread where you post a SAK everyday for a full year!...”Syem Soilders”...or “Syem SAK”...that would be a thread I would visit everyday! :tu:
I don't have that kany soldiers...
And I am doing a full year at the moment... Just in 12 separate threads :D honestly I dont think I'd be up for another year and as much fun as this is I'm looking forward to the end. Also I miss some knives I carried in month 1.
I'll probably do other challenges in the future but not of that scale :D
Post by: Syem on October 18, 2018, 12:55:23 AM
First???? There are others? :ahhh
I was wondering which would be your BYSak... You're a youngster!!!
Great pics!!!
Yeah that's the first 85 I ever got. I've since then found another Vic that's currently at the spa and a 1 layer red OC with an 85-stamped blade.
Dont think I have a Wenger 85 yet...
Post by: Syem on October 18, 2018, 12:59:29 AM
So, following this thread, I carried last couple of days a bigger soldier, but not such old as many of already shown onesNice! I forgot about those GAK. I've got one somewhere I think... I'll probably save it for month 11 :D I think I'll do " >100mm ". I have to check if I can do it without using too many 5+ layer knives so I still have enough to do a Stack Challenge for month 12.
GAK ... 108mm
:cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 18, 2018, 01:16:38 AM
E-stamped Soldier '1908' model
The (probably) first non-Victorinox/Elsener/Wenger knife of the year. It is an official SAK (https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1908) and I'm not sure what that E stands for but as I understand its not Elsener. If anyone has any info on that I'd be very happy to know more.
(https://image.ibb.co/jqR2d0/20181018-001513.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/jqR2d0/20181018-001513.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/efAHBL/20181018-001528.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/efAHBL/20181018-001528.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nvmDkf/20181018-001557.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nvmDkf/20181018-001557.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2018, 02:17:59 AM
Day 286Well that is an interesting Soldier, an E stamped. I can’t help but will be on the sidelines. :popcorn:
E-stamped Soldier '1908' model
The (probably) first non-Victorinox/Elsener/Wenger knife of the year. It is an official SAK (https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1908) and I'm not sure what that E stands for but as I understand its not Elsener. If anyone has any info on that I'd be very happy to know more.
(https://image.ibb.co/jqR2d0/20181018-001513.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/jqR2d0/20181018-001513.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/efAHBL/20181018-001528.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/efAHBL/20181018-001528.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nvmDkf/20181018-001557.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nvmDkf/20181018-001557.jpg)
Post by: Borg on October 18, 2018, 07:29:19 PM
17,
Note to a future MTO'er born in 2017- i have your bysak :P
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1963/31534132138_a1800d1070.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 18, 2018, 09:10:44 PM
Post by: NutSAK on October 18, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
My guess would be the E signifies a civilian model blade, i see the WK but is it possible the other mark is a repair stamp if they changed the blade? i have seen a P but never seen an E before, nice knife :like:
17,
Note to a future MTO'er born in 2017- i have your bysak :P
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1963/31534132138_a1800d1070.jpg)
The P doesn't replace the tang stamp where it appears though, like this E example does.
Post by: Syem on October 19, 2018, 03:35:11 AM
I'll have another tricky one on Saturday... Way more awesome and quite intriguing :)
Post by: Syem on October 19, 2018, 03:41:48 AM
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1949
My dad's BYSAK :)
The Elsener Schwyz tang-stamp is a bit faint but still discernable...
The scales seem to be held onto the rivets by a kind of resin as if they'd been removed at some point. Or its just a weird mixture of solidified rust and wood-fiber goo... Any ideas?
Sorry about the lousy outside picture; That pop-up electrical panel had to be in the shot if I wanted the knife to be in the light and to see the faint blurry rainbow in the Jet d'Eau.
(https://image.ibb.co/cXr5GL/20181018-161129.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cXr5GL/20181018-161129.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/gTykGL/20181019-031935.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/gTykGL/20181019-031935.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/d871qf/20181019-032008.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/d871qf/20181019-032008.jpg)
Post by: wengercollector on October 19, 2018, 09:14:15 AM
About the E, it is listed in "others" (or not Victorinox nor Wenger) on the "couteau du soldat (https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/les-modeles-1908)" website... Now theres also a W in that list but there are many others (including "R" and "II") so unless we find some definitive evidence about what these are there's no telling for sure...
I'll have another tricky one on Saturday... Way more awesome and quite intriguing :)
I`m pretty sure that E stands for Elsener, like W stands for Wenger. You can see those stamps also with a SMV Stamp on the other side.
The II stamp stands for second class elsener knives, about that I`m really sure.
Post by: fred2892 on October 19, 2018, 09:44:35 AM
Did this (above^^^^^^) remind anyone else of this (below vvvvvv)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/8f5e9783a5c113b61cd5fb26baa9e216.jpg)
One of my favourite tv shows from the late 60s.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Post by: Syem on October 19, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
I`m pretty sure that E stands for Elsener, like W stands for Wenger. You can see those stamps also with a SMV Stamp on the other side.
The II stamp stands for second class elsener knives, about that I`m really sure.
Thanks for the information! I've just searched a bit and found this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=67983.0) and the below video :
https://youtu.be/1YgnRYlARuE
Do you have other sources?
There seems to be quite a bit of speculation but I'm thinking the theory in the thread is quite realistic; E and W-stamped knives were made by other swiss makers which sent knives to Elsener or Wenger for quality control. As for the R the video states it is believed to be Röthlisberger, another big member of the SMV.
I don't see any reason why Elsener and Wenger wouldn't use their normal tang-stamps (like on the other thousands of knives) and the fact some come with the SMV stamp reinforces this line of thought.
Post by: Syem on October 19, 2018, 10:15:01 AM
Did this (above^^^^^^) remind anyone else of this (below vvvvvv)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/8f5e9783a5c113b61cd5fb26baa9e216.jpg)
One of my favourite tv shows from the late 60s.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I'd never seen or heard about this before :D
https://youtu.be/SgVueR3ybYk
Post by: Rapidray on October 19, 2018, 03:09:29 PM
Day 287Interesting for sure and your dads....cool. :tu:
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1949
My dad's BYSAK :)
The Elsener Schwyz tang-stamp is a bit faint but still discernable...
The scales seem to be held onto the rivets by a kind of resin as if they'd been removed at some point. Or its just a weird mixture of solidified rust and wood-fiber goo... Any ideas?
Sorry about the lousy outside picture; That pop-up electrical panel had to be in the shot if I wanted the knife to be in the light and to see the faint blurry rainbow in the Jet d'Eau.
(https://image.ibb.co/cXr5GL/20181018-161129.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cXr5GL/20181018-161129.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/gTykGL/20181019-031935.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/gTykGL/20181019-031935.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/d871qf/20181019-032008.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/d871qf/20181019-032008.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 19, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/659df45fe8f27c0de4129715163a724c.jpg)I remember that series! It was ok.
Did this (above^^^^^^) remind anyone else of this (below vvvvvv)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181019/8f5e9783a5c113b61cd5fb26baa9e216.jpg)
One of my favourite tv shows from the late 60s.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Post by: Borg on October 19, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
The P doesn't replace the tang stamp where it appears though, like this E example does.
Good point, i failed to notice that :tu:
It's home from its Swiss holiday :dd: Props to Victorinox repair department, excellent job, i'm delighted with it :salute:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1938/30490412817_9107f2437d_z.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1952/43613609640_444ef7b506_z.jpg)
Post by: wengercollector on October 19, 2018, 07:37:25 PM
I`m pretty sure that E stands for Elsener, like W stands for Wenger. You can see those stamps also with a SMV Stamp on the other side.
The II stamp stands for second class elsener knives, about that I`m really sure.
Thanks for the information! I've just searched a bit and found this thread (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=67983.0) and the below video :
https://youtu.be/1YgnRYlARuE
Do you have other sources?
There seems to be quite a bit of speculation but I'm thinking the theory in the thread is quite realistic; E and W-stamped knives were made by other swiss makers which sent knives to Elsener or Wenger for quality control. As for the R the video states it is believed to be Röthlisberger, another big member of the SMV.
I don't see any reason why Elsener and Wenger wouldn't use their normal tang-stamps (like on the other thousands of knives) and the fact some come with the SMV stamp reinforces this line of thought.
The problem with soldier knives (and all vintage swiss knives) is, that not much certified info is available. Also the common and known books contain some false informations. Why? Because of the lack of certified infos, everybody is looking for hints and sometimes, the hints lead to a wrong direction. For example the R should stand for Roethlisberger. You see a R on a vintage soldier blade, than you`re looking for a knife maker that name starts with an R. And because Roethlisberger is the most known, hubbil says its maybe Roethlisberger. Fact is, at that time, there were many other swiss knife makers with a name that starts with an R. For example ROTH, RIETHMULLER, ROLLI, RIZZI, RENZ, RAIS. The factory of Roethlisberger is very mall by the way, compared to the facilities of elsener or wenger. So I dont see any evidence that those knives with the R are made by Roethlisberger. By the way, I have never seen a 1908 soldier knife with just a R on the blade - but I`ve seen some of them with Victoria on the front side and a R on the other side.
What I heard (no evidence) is, that during the days of the SMV, the knife makers worked together as an unit to supply the army with the amount of knives they ordered. The price was fix, so they wanted to produce them as cheap as possible. They split the production to different companies. So one company produced the awl, another one the blade, some smaller campanies assembled the knives and so on. Because they worked as an unit, they put the SMV logo to the front. The letter on the back was there to track the knives back when there was any problem with it later. Maybe it was like this, that the bigger companies like elsener and wenger produced most of the parts of the knives and send them to the smaller companies for assembling. After that they went back for quality control, that means for a small knife maker, knives with a W back to wenger, knives with an E back to elsener. Then they sent the knives to the army.
So thats why I think E stands for elsener and W for wenger, but that does not mean, that the whole production was made by those companies. Maybe the smaller companies didn`t have the capacity to assemble the ordered numbers from the army, so wenger and elsener made some totally in-house productions and because those knives were not part of the SMV as a unity, they marked them only with E or only with a W.
Victorinox changed the name quite a few times. Over 100 different tang stamps are known.
Post by: VICMAN on October 20, 2018, 01:25:12 AM
Day 287
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1949
My dad's BYSAK :)
The Elsener Schwyz tang-stamp is a bit faint but still discernable...
The scales seem to be held onto the rivets by a kind of resin as if they'd been removed at some point. Or its just a weird mixture of solidified rust and wood-fiber goo... Any ideas?
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 20, 2018, 01:26:58 AM
The P doesn't replace the tang stamp where it appears though, like this E example does.
Good point, i failed to notice that :tu:
It's home from its Swiss holiday :dd: Props to Victorinox repair department, excellent job, i'm delighted with it :salute:
Nice pics Borg! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 20, 2018, 02:33:47 AM
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - red 1973
Freshly arrived... I bought it "blind" (just a closed blurry pic from the top in a lot with other SAKs) and got rather lucky; Except for the slightly reshaped 1973 (!!) blade, all the tools are in great condition.
(https://image.ibb.co/h9EUvf/20181020-020521.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/h9EUvf/20181020-020521.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cnnGaf/20181020-020538.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cnnGaf/20181020-020538.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 20, 2018, 02:43:59 AM
Interesting for sure and your dads....cool. :tu:
Well the knife is mine
I may gift it to him at the year's end...
Post by: Syem on October 20, 2018, 02:46:11 AM
Good point, i failed to notice that :tu:
It's home from its Swiss holiday :dd: Props to Victorinox repair department, excellent job, i'm delighted with it :salute:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1938/30490412817_9107f2437d_z.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1952/43613609640_444ef7b506_z.jpg)
Gorgeous! Well done! I've had mixed results with sending them red OC knives... Sometimes I get brand new red OC scales and sometimes they put back the old worn ones even though I asked them to replace the scales.
Post by: Syem on October 20, 2018, 02:47:04 AM
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thanks VICMAN! Can't wait to see you post a soldier/soldier-like
Post by: Rapidray on October 20, 2018, 02:56:27 AM
His birthday? That would be nice. :cheers:Interesting for sure and your dads....cool. :tu:
Well the knife is mine
Post by: Syem on October 20, 2018, 03:05:20 AM
The problem with soldier knives (and all vintage swiss knives) is, that not much certified info is available. Also the common and known books contain some false informations. Why? Because of the lack of certified infos, everybody is looking for hints and sometimes, the hints lead to a wrong direction. For example the R should stand for Roethlisberger. You see a R on a vintage soldier blade, than you`re looking for a knife maker that name starts with an R. And because Roethlisberger is the most known, hubbil says its maybe Roethlisberger. Fact is, at that time, there were many other swiss knife makers with a name that starts with an R. For example ROTH, RIETHMULLER, ROLLI, RIZZI, RENZ, RAIS. The factory of Roethlisberger is very mall by the way, compared to the facilities of elsener or wenger. So I dont see any evidence that those knives with the R are made by Roethlisberger. By the way, I have never seen a 1908 soldier knife with just a R on the blade - but I`ve seen some of them with Victoria on the front side and a R on the other side.
What I heard (no evidence) is, that during the days of the SMV, the knife makers worked together as an unit to supply the army with the amount of knives they ordered. The price was fix, so they wanted to produce them as cheap as possible. They split the production to different companies. So one company produced the awl, another one the blade, some smaller campanies assembled the knives and so on. Because they worked as an unit, they put the SMV logo to the front. The letter on the back was there to track the knives back when there was any problem with it later. Maybe it was like this, that the bigger companies like elsener and wenger produced most of the parts of the knives and send them to the smaller companies for assembling. After that they went back for quality control, that means for a small knife maker, knives with a W back to wenger, knives with an E back to elsener. Then they sent the knives to the army.
So thats why I think E stands for elsener and W for wenger, but that does not mean, that the whole production was made by those companies. Maybe the smaller companies didn`t have the capacity to assemble the ordered numbers from the army, so wenger and elsener made some totally in-house productions and because those knives were not part of the SMV as a unity, they marked them only with E or only with a W.
Victorinox changed the name quite a few times. Over 100 different tang stamps are known.
Well that's certainly very interesting and makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!
I was wondering if maybe Victorinox has an historian which may know more about this aspect of the 1908 model production. It also occured to me that the SMV may still exist (101 years commemorative knife (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=78653.msg1772460.msg#1772460)) and that there may exist some records about these production methods and mechanisms...
Post by: VICMAN on October 20, 2018, 05:58:23 PM
Day 288
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - red 1973
Freshly arrived... I bought it "blind" (just a closed blurry pic from the top in a lot with other SAKs) and got rather lucky; Except for the slightly reshaped 1973 (!!) blade, all the tools are in great condition.
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 20, 2018, 06:00:15 PM
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thanks VICMAN! Can't wait to see you post a soldier/soldier-like
Here you go!
Click on pictures for best pictures
Post by: Syem on October 21, 2018, 02:17:28 AM
Forges L & C Vallorbe Soldier '1908' model - 1908
It obviously has the scales of an 1890 model but due to the clip-point blade I'm calling it a 1908. Due to the fact its sharing these features with both I'm going to assume it must have been one of the first 1908 models made by this knifemaker. There surely must be an interesting story behing this knife but as usual we are left to guess and wonder :)
(https://image.ibb.co/hy2ugL/20181020-150527.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hy2ugL/20181020-150527.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/b1h5o0/20181021-015110.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/b1h5o0/20181021-015110.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/hkqEgL/20181021-014826.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hkqEgL/20181021-014826.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kohS1L/20181021-014909.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kohS1L/20181021-014909.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 21, 2018, 02:19:20 AM
Here you go!
Click on pictures for best pictures
Very cool Pioneer with the Charles Elsener signature! What's the story behind this one? It's the first time I've seen it!
That 2011 is nice too! Thanks for sharing!
Post by: VICMAN on October 21, 2018, 06:00:32 PM
Here you go!
Click on pictures for best pictures
Very cool Pioneer with the Charles Elsener signature! What's the story behind this one? It's the first time I've seen it!
That 2011 is nice too! Thanks for sharing!
When the book THE KNIFE AND IT'S HISTORY was written on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of Victorinox I ordered one and the knife came with the book.
Post by: VICMAN on October 21, 2018, 06:10:28 PM
Day 289
Forges L & C Vallorbe Soldier '1908' model - 1908
It obviously has the scales of an 1890 model but due to the clip-point blade I'm calling it a 1908. Due to the fact its sharing these features with both I'm going to assume it must have been one of the first 1908 models made by this knifemaker. There surely must be an interesting story behing this knife but as usual we are left to guess and wonder :)
Cool knife and nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 22, 2018, 01:48:13 AM
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1967
(https://image.ibb.co/b6sVO0/20181021-162107.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/b6sVO0/20181021-162107.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eKYtbL/20181021-162159.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eKYtbL/20181021-162159.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on October 22, 2018, 01:02:17 PM
Day 290
Wenger Soldier '1961' model - 1967
Nice 1967 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: koke on October 22, 2018, 02:38:36 PM
1908, P48, Wenger Delémont tang stamped
It's really an impressive tool :climber:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181022/fb193734f21623a052928783a2e3c690.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181022/33f176b61d5dd4e4e186670c9f8bc882.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181022/c0df73300a3a2d6c2824324e695d5c6a.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 22, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Post by: Borg on October 22, 2018, 07:36:46 PM
Day 289
Forges L & C Vallorbe Soldier '1908' model - 1908
It obviously has the scales of an 1890 model but due to the clip-point blade I'm calling it a 1908. Due to the fact its sharing these features with both I'm going to assume it must have been one of the first 1908 models made by this knifemaker. There surely must be an interesting story behing this knife but as usual we are left to guess and wonder :)
Very very nice :salute:
Here you go!
Click on pictures for best pictures
:like:
Post by: Syem on October 23, 2018, 03:18:59 AM
Victorinox civilian '1908' stainless steel soldier model - 1935 P
(https://image.ibb.co/mJSXoA/20181023-023739.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mJSXoA/20181023-023739.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/ehRQ8A/20181023-023800.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ehRQ8A/20181023-023800.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 23, 2018, 03:41:01 AM
Post by: VICMAN on October 23, 2018, 12:39:06 PM
As this weekend was my mum's birthday, I decided to carry her BYSak for a couple of days.
1908, P48, Wenger Delémont tang stamped
It's really an impressive tool :climber:
Cool Wenger koke! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 23, 2018, 12:40:48 PM
Day 290
Victorinox civilian '1908' stainless steel soldier model - 1935 P
Nice SAK Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Borg on October 23, 2018, 11:37:03 PM
Post by: Syem on October 24, 2018, 01:17:33 AM
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - pre 1915
(https://image.ibb.co/eiiFdA/20181024-004630.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eiiFdA/20181024-004630.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cCNxrV/20181024-004657.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cCNxrV/20181024-004657.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 24, 2018, 01:50:28 AM
Day 291I look forward everyday to see what you will post...I have not been disappointed once! Great photos for sure. :salute: :cheers:
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - pre 1915
(https://image.ibb.co/eiiFdA/20181024-004630.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eiiFdA/20181024-004630.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/cCNxrV/20181024-004657.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cCNxrV/20181024-004657.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:10:51 AM
Elsener Soldier '1951' model - 1953
Funny thing, it has 5 army control stamps. 1 WK, 2 very clear circle+cross and 2 much fainter circle+cross. All "on top" of each other.
I realize i dont have many 1951 models... Still missing a Grilon... I wish someone would post one of these
(https://image.ibb.co/nHpYYA/20181025-013024.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nHpYYA/20181025-013024.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/e1SLDA/20181025-013049.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/e1SLDA/20181025-013049.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:15:31 AM
Nice 1967 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Nice SAK Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thanks for your support VICMAN!
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:17:14 AM
As this weekend was my mum's birthday, I decided to carry her BYSak for a couple of days.
1908, P48, Wenger Delémont tang stamped
It's really an impressive tool :climber:
Gorgeous pictures for an awesome knife! These are so robust and feel so steady in one's hand. Drawback is the weight...
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:18:27 AM
Birthyear SAK for my parents...thats a great idea. Thanks. :tu:
‘35 was my dads year of birth. That’s cool. Enjoy!Nice! Didn't expect I'd land on the right year right after you said it'd be a nice gift for your parents...
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:20:02 AM
:like: Ok thats it, i'm going to have to get a 1908
Very very nice :salute:
You won't regret it
And yeah... This piece cost me a little fortune :D
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:21:30 AM
When the book THE KNIFE AND IT'S HISTORY was written on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of Victorinox I ordered one and the knife came with the book.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing!
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 02:27:36 AM
:like: The soldier liked his knife so much he kept it after service and here it is so many years later, if only we knew it's history :tu:Actually, the 1908s marked Victorinox or Wengerinox are civilian models with stainless steel blade (and tools?) as opposed to the army's carbon steel.
These civilian models were accepted during controls of soldiers' equipment...
This 35P specifically has no army control stamp on the front scale and I'm really wondering where it got the 35 from. Did they maybe stamp these knives after controls?
Post by: Rapidray on October 25, 2018, 03:05:38 AM
I know - dad was ‘35 and mom is ‘37. My dad didn’t even see his 50th and passed from a brain tumor. But those two years will be buys of opportunity if they pop up! :tu: :cheers:Birthyear SAK for my parents...thats a great idea. Thanks. :tu:‘35 was my dads year of birth. That’s cool. Enjoy!Nice! Didn't expect I'd land on the right year right after you said it'd be a nice gift for your parents...
Post by: Rapidray on October 25, 2018, 03:11:02 AM
Day 292Nice ‘53...there is a Wenger ‘57 Grilon on Ebay right now. Wish it was a ‘56, and I would have bought it myself so I would have a matching BYSAK by both! :tu:
Elsener Soldier '1951' model - 1953
Funny thing, it has 5 army control stamps. 1 WK, 2 very clear circle+cross and 2 much fainter circle+cross. All "on top" of each other.
I realize i dont have many 1951 models... Still missing a Grilon... I wish someone would post one of these
(https://image.ibb.co/nHpYYA/20181025-013024.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nHpYYA/20181025-013024.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/e1SLDA/20181025-013049.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/e1SLDA/20181025-013049.jpg)
Post by: fred2892 on October 25, 2018, 10:51:49 AM
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Post by: Borg on October 25, 2018, 11:13:12 PM
You won't regret it
And yeah... This piece cost me a little fortune :D
I can imagine, i saw the one on Ricardo recently, you should have bought it to make a matching pair :cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Well I bought it off Ricardo recently so this was probably the one you saw ^^You won't regret it
And yeah... This piece cost me a little fortune :D
I can imagine, i saw the one on Ricardo recently, you should have bought it to make a matching pair :cheers:
Some guy is trying to sell an 1890 Wester & Co. Solingen for around 900...
Post by: Syem on October 25, 2018, 11:52:49 PM
Victorinox Pioneer
I'm really not fond of this shield/crest... Fat silver edge on silver background...
(https://image.ibb.co/cPO8JA/20181025-161251.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cPO8JA/20181025-161251.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/ehK4rV/20181025-161248.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ehK4rV/20181025-161248.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 26, 2018, 12:05:32 AM
Day 293Knife...what knife...and now I looking for my passport! :rofl:
Victorinox Pioneer
I'm really not fond of this shield/crest... Fat silver edge on silver background...
(https://image.ibb.co/cPO8JA/20181025-161251.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/cPO8JA/20181025-161251.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/ehK4rV/20181025-161248.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ehK4rV/20181025-161248.jpg)
That is a beautiful spot! Great photo
Post by: Borg on October 26, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
Not the same knife, the one i saw was stamped Vallorbes not Vallorbe and had a different blade, real nice knife though and if my eyes weren't watering looking at the price i would probably have bought it :D
Post by: Syem on October 26, 2018, 12:11:04 AM
Is there an explanation or theory on the multiple control stamps?According to this website, https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/les-couteaux-du-soldat/poincons-speciaux , the additional stamps were added after repairs. The examples show 2 cross-in-circle on top of the WK stamp.
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On my piece maybe the first pair stamped was too faint so they did it again. We can ser that the WK was there 1st.
Post by: VICMAN on October 26, 2018, 07:28:49 PM
Day 291
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - pre 1915
Nice pre 1915 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 26, 2018, 07:30:06 PM
Day 292
Elsener Soldier '1951' model - 1953
Funny thing, it has 5 army control stamps. 1 WK, 2 very clear circle+cross and 2 much fainter circle+cross. All "on top" of each other.
I realize i dont have many 1951 models... Still missing a Grilon... I wish someone would post one of these
Nice 1953 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: VICMAN on October 26, 2018, 07:31:07 PM
Day 293
Victorinox Pioneer
I'm really not fond of this shield/crest... Fat silver edge on silver background...
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 27, 2018, 12:48:56 AM
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1984
Going orwellian today? Hope not but it may sound like it
(https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 27, 2018, 02:53:05 AM
Day 294So many nice Soldiers! All nice. :cheers:
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1984
Going orwellian today? Hope not but it may sound like it
(https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg)
Post by: Don Pablo on October 27, 2018, 09:52:26 AM
So many nice soldiers all around. :drool: :salute:
My first BY is currently in the post, curtesy of Etherealicer. :hatsoff: :mail:
Post by: VICMAN on October 27, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Day 294
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1984
Going orwellian today? Hope not but it may sound like it
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on October 27, 2018, 03:45:45 PM
I just caught up!Congratulations on your BY! Hope you get it soon! :tu:
So many nice soldiers all around. :drool: :salute:
My first BY is currently in the post, curtesy of Etherealicer. :hatsoff: :mail:
Post by: McStitchy on October 27, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
I just caught up!
So many nice soldiers all around. :drool: :salute:
My first BY is currently in the post, curtesy of Etherealicer. :hatsoff: :mail:
Wow Pabs, finally! That's awesome :tu:
I always thought about you when I came across a 1999 Soldier... which never happened... I mean I never saw one :D
Post by: McStitchy on October 27, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
Day 294So many nice Soldiers! All nice. :cheers:
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1984
Going orwellian today? Hope not but it may sound like it
(https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ktMAkq/20181027-004301.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kB6zdA/20181027-004322.jpg)
Big Matt is watching you... on this :like:
Post by: Syem on October 28, 2018, 02:55:34 AM
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1971
(https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 28, 2018, 03:00:21 AM
Nice pre 1915 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thanks a lot for your continued support VICMAN!
So many nice Soldiers! All nice. :cheers:
Thanks! I'm trying to diversify but I've used up my '51s and quite a few nice Alox pieces...
I just caught up!
So many nice soldiers all around. :drool: :salute:
My first BY is currently in the post, curtesy of Etherealicer. :hatsoff: :mail:
Congrats on your BYSAK!
Post by: VICMAN on October 28, 2018, 03:28:36 PM
Day 295
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1971
Nice Elsener Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on October 28, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
Day 295Great looking ‘71 there! And the control stamp...perfect! :drool:
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1971
(https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg)
Post by: Syem on October 29, 2018, 02:26:52 AM
Great looking ‘71 there! And the control stamp...perfect! :drool:
Forgot to mention it came back from the Vic spa with a restored blade...
Post by: Syem on October 29, 2018, 02:29:49 AM
Elsener '1908' model - 1950
(https://image.ibb.co/dDBxJA/20181028-151447.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dDBxJA/20181028-151447.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dCQeWV/20181028-151536.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dCQeWV/20181028-151536.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 29, 2018, 03:17:29 AM
Nothing wrong with that! I’m getting ready to send one off myself. A Outdoorsman that has seen better days and has lost it’s snap on half the tools. :tu:Great looking ‘71 there! And the control stamp...perfect! :drool:
Forgot to mention it came back from the Vic spa with a restored blade...
Post by: Rapidray on October 29, 2018, 03:18:45 AM
Day 296‘50 is nice! :like: :tu:
Elsener '1908' model - 1950
(https://image.ibb.co/dDBxJA/20181028-151447.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dDBxJA/20181028-151447.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dCQeWV/20181028-151536.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dCQeWV/20181028-151536.jpg)
Post by: VICMAN on October 29, 2018, 06:50:12 PM
Day 296
Elsener '1908' model - 1950
Nice 1950 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on October 30, 2018, 04:16:44 AM
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1980
(https://image.ibb.co/iPiL8L/20181030-041009.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/iPiL8L/20181030-041009.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/dLnDTL/20181030-041028.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dLnDTL/20181030-041028.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 30, 2018, 07:30:50 AM
Post by: McStitchy on October 30, 2018, 09:22:00 AM
Day 295Great looking ‘71 there! And the control stamp...perfect! :drool:
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1971
(https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eebNiA/20181028-023043.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eJxTOA/20181028-023052.jpg)
+1 :like:
Post by: Don Pablo on October 30, 2018, 10:15:53 AM
Post by: McStitchy on October 30, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
old school :drool:
Hey! :twak:
Post by: Don Pablo on October 30, 2018, 10:37:20 AM
Well, it’s old, at least. :P Not that there’s anything wrong with that! Many nice things are oldold school :drool:
Hey! :twak:
Post by: VICMAN on October 30, 2018, 11:43:35 AM
Day 297
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1980
Nice pics Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Rapidray on October 30, 2018, 03:20:17 PM
Amen!Well, it’s old, at least. :P Not that there’s anything wrong with that! Many nice things are oldold school :drool:
Hey! :twak:
I will always go with old school...it is already proven! :cheers:
Post by: Syem on October 31, 2018, 03:19:17 AM
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1994
(https://image.ibb.co/mqp3xf/20181030-151426.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mqp3xf/20181030-151426.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nizsq0/20181030-151643.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nizsq0/20181030-151643.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kPayV0/20181030-151530.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kPayV0/20181030-151530.jpg)
Focus on the Mont Blanc (about 70km/43mi away) :
(https://image.ibb.co/dqo7OL/20181030-151556.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dqo7OL/20181030-151556.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on October 31, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
Day 298Great photo’s! :like: :tu: :tu:
Victorinox Soldier '1961' model - 1994
(https://image.ibb.co/mqp3xf/20181030-151426.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mqp3xf/20181030-151426.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/nizsq0/20181030-151643.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/nizsq0/20181030-151643.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/kPayV0/20181030-151530.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/kPayV0/20181030-151530.jpg)
Focus on the Mont Blanc (about 70km/43mi away) :
(https://image.ibb.co/dqo7OL/20181030-151556.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/dqo7OL/20181030-151556.jpg)
Post by: Syem on November 01, 2018, 01:43:15 AM
Elsener Soldier '1908' model - 1939
It seems to have had some repairs/maintenance done back in the days what with the 2 "cross in circle" stamps on top of the WK scale stamp.
(https://image.ibb.co/iw75f0/20181101-013150.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/iw75f0/20181101-013150.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/fADNSf/20181101-013209.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/fADNSf/20181101-013209.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/hcQrL0/20181101-013224.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hcQrL0/20181101-013224.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on November 01, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
Post by: Syem on November 02, 2018, 02:53:26 AM
Day 300
Victorinox Pioneer with an 07 blade
(https://image.ibb.co/ffBmoL/20181102-023956.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/ffBmoL/20181102-023956.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/h8dz8L/20181102-024009.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/h8dz8L/20181102-024009.jpg)
Post by: McStitchy on November 02, 2018, 08:52:39 AM
Post by: Rapidray on November 02, 2018, 03:35:31 PM
Post by: Syem on November 03, 2018, 02:21:00 AM
Here it is then...
Day 302
Victorinox militarised civilian '1908' model - 38P
For lack of a better description... A WK-stamped and P-stamped stainless steel 1908...
(https://image.ibb.co/j1VBsf/20181103-014620.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/j1VBsf/20181103-014620.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/mwTLk0/20181103-014650.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mwTLk0/20181103-014650.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on November 03, 2018, 03:35:44 AM
Post by: McStitchy on November 03, 2018, 10:29:39 AM
Well... I've done it again... I've done 2x day 290. I'll skip 301 and go straight to 302 to compensate. Tomorrow's day 303 will be the 31st of this month (and therefore the last day of month #10, it won't be day 304 as I mentioned in my OP). To my defense this has been an extremely stressful month and quite the emotional roller-coaster...
Here it is then...
Day 302
Victorinox militarised civilian '1908' model - 38P
For lack of a better description... A WK-stamped and P-stamped stainless steel 1908...
(https://image.ibb.co/j1VBsf/20181103-014620.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/j1VBsf/20181103-014620.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/mwTLk0/20181103-014650.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/mwTLk0/20181103-014650.jpg)
I've heart about then using civilian stainless versions to backfill orders but I've never seen one. Thanks Ollie :like:
I hope you're all good and that you'll have plenty of time to de-stress :salute:
Post by: VICMAN on November 03, 2018, 06:07:18 PM
Day 302
Victorinox militarised civilian '1908' model - 38P
For lack of a better description... A WK-stamped and P-stamped stainless steel 1908...
Nice 1908 Syem! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: Syem on November 04, 2018, 04:12:47 AM
Day 303
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1966
(https://image.ibb.co/hBT7Hf/20181103-215829.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hBT7Hf/20181103-215829.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eLAMcf/20181103-215847.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eLAMcf/20181103-215847.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on November 04, 2018, 02:05:04 PM
Thanks to you all for your support! We've reached #31 for month 10. Next month I turn 33, I should become a dad (if baby-boy isn't late) and I'll be carrying the longest knives of my collection.An Elsener! Love them... :hatsoff:
Day 303
Elsener Soldier '1961' model - 1966
(https://image.ibb.co/hBT7Hf/20181103-215829.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/hBT7Hf/20181103-215829.jpg)
(https://image.ibb.co/eLAMcf/20181103-215847.jpg) (https://image.ibb.co/eLAMcf/20181103-215847.jpg)
Post by: Don Pablo on November 04, 2018, 02:53:01 PM
Post by: Syem on January 06, 2019, 10:08:39 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/6HwGrpx/20190106-180554.jpg) (https://i.ibb.co/6HwGrpx/20190106-180554.jpg)
Post by: Rapidray on January 07, 2019, 01:36:37 AM