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Title: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 07:57:28 PM
I got this in the mail today..
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrEknGE4qfI/AAAAAAAACaM/wn5vzyVEU4U/s400/DSC03654.JPG)

And I was very happy... Until I opened the main blade..  :o :o
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrEksEgnxUI/AAAAAAAACaU/5ZrjqSJY5Mg/s400/DSC03661.JPG)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrElEtKVWnI/AAAAAAAACaY/7Jm9Ds9A6sA/s400/DSC03663.JPG)

That STUPID %¤#%"&¤% had tried to sharpen with a grinder and completely ruined the blade..  >:( >:( :twak: :twak:

Is the any chance for replacing the blade..? It sure requires some skill and steady hands..  ;)
Do we know anyone who's been modding alox SAKs recently...?  :pok: :pok:  :D
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: stressmaster5000 on September 16, 2009, 08:08:50 PM
I got this in the mail today..

And I was very happy... Until I opened the main blade..  :o :o
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrEksEgnxUI/AAAAAAAACaU/5ZrjqSJY5Mg/s400/DSC03661.JPG)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrElEtKVWnI/AAAAAAAACaY/7Jm9Ds9A6sA/s400/DSC03663.JPG)

That STUPID %¤#%"&¤% had tried to sharpen with a grinder and completely ruined the blade..  >:( >:( :twak: :twak:

Is the any chance for replacing the blade..? It sure requires some skill and steady hands..  ;)
Do we know anyone who's been modding alox SAKs recently...?  :pok: :pok:  :D

Ouch! This is why I always want to see photos with the blades opened before I buy anything on-line.

Sorry about your misfortune dude. I too have had similar circumstance happen. :cry:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: max6166 on September 16, 2009, 08:11:33 PM
Aarrgh! That really sucks.  :o

In the earlier photos, it looked like the blade was fine. Did he only decide to ruin it right after you bought it?  >:(



Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: duder on September 16, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
I would send it to Victorinox in Ibach. This way you get a new blade and it`s replaced in the factory. Afterwards it should look like new and most times they do this for free.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Gadget Guy on September 16, 2009, 08:18:11 PM
That blade isn't ruined. Any knifemaker can fix that, but it wont be 100% mint of course. It still sucks though!!   :ahhh
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 08:44:23 PM
Luckily I only paid 6$ for it, but I think it's a damn shame...  :-\
What was he thinking..?   :ahhh

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrEkq3kaqWI/AAAAAAAACaQ/3S4qzIcCD4c/s400/DSC03659.JPG)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: max6166 on September 16, 2009, 08:59:03 PM
Ironically, he probably thought he was doing you a favour and that you would be happy...  :-\
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on September 16, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
Whoever owned it before needs to be soundly beaten with said knife, in a sock :twak:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Here's the pic from the auction... When looking closely, I can see it now..  :P
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2comq95.jpg)


Whoever owned it before needs to be soundly beaten with said knife, in a sock :twak:
Exactly...  :twak:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Gadget Guy on September 16, 2009, 09:04:45 PM
For $6 I'd be very happy with that knife.  :D  
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 09:09:51 PM
For $6 I'd be very happy with that knife.  :D  
Don't get me wrong, I am... :)
But it would have been my "score of the year", :ahhh if the blade wasn't scratched like that...
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2009, 09:20:46 PM
Time to get the wet and dry paper out I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: ducktapehero on September 16, 2009, 09:25:01 PM
For $6 I'd be very happy with that knife.  :D  
If I had bought it, I would be happy if I had known the blade was scratched like that before I bought it. However, damage like that HAS to be mentioned before the trade is finalized. That is EXTREMELY dishonest.


AHB, if the person you traded with doesn't make it right please let us know who it is so nobody else will get burned too.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2009, 09:28:14 PM
To be fair to the seller, its pretty evident on the auction pic.  Just sometimes its easy to get exited by a SAK and not see what's there (been there, done that).  It'll scrub up  :tu:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: felinevet on September 16, 2009, 09:33:33 PM
I would send it to Victorinox in Ibach. This way you get a new blade and it`s replaced in the factory. Afterwards it should look like new and most times they do this for free.
Not likely they would fix since it's obvious abuse. Also, that was part of a special run and they probably will not be able to repair it or replace it.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 09:36:09 PM
For $6 I'd be very happy with that knife.  :D  
If I had bought it, I would be happy if I had known the blade was scratched like that before I bought it. However, damage like that HAS to be mentioned before the trade is finalized. That is EXTREMELY dishonest.


AHB, if the person you traded with doesn't make it right please let us know who it is so nobody else will get burned too.
It was bought on a Danish auction site, so you guys shouldn't worry..  ;)
The seller had tons of stamps for sale and only this SAK..

Time to get the wet and dry paper out I'm afraid.
Any hints.?  :)

To be fair to the seller, its pretty evident on the auction pic.  Just sometimes its easy to get exited by a SAK and not see what's there (been there, done that).  It'll scrub up  :tu:
I don't accuse the seller for cheating me or something like that, What I just don't understand is:
"WHY THE HECK DOES PEOPLE USE A BENCH GRINDER..??"   :-\

 :D
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2009, 09:41:54 PM
People use a grinder because they know no better  :-\

Start by rubbing some 320 grit paper along the blade opposite the scratches until you can't see them any more. Then move to the next grit up and rub at right angles to the last lot etc. until you get to around 1200 grit.  After that its time for metal polish if you want a mirror finish.

Its easy to nick yourself doing this and you might want to wear kevlar gloves.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 09:56:57 PM
People use a grinder because they know no better  :-\

Start by rubbing some 320 grit paper along the blade opposite the scratches until you can't see them any more. Then move to the next grit up and rub at right angles to the last lot etc. until you get to around 1200 grit.  After that its time for metal polish if you want a mirror finish.

Its easy to nick yourself doing this and you might want to wear kevlar gloves.
Thanks..   :salute:
It gonna take some time, but I can see it's working already...  :tu:
Pics will be posted..  ;)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Neil on September 16, 2009, 09:59:40 PM
Not a fast process but its best advice I can give without pulling the blade from the SAK and that I'm not recommending.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Not a fast process but its best advice I can give without pulling the blade from the SAK and that I'm not recommending.
It's worth the effort..  ;)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 16, 2009, 11:16:45 PM
Progress....  :D  :D

That blade isn't ruined. Any knifemaker can fix that, but it wont be 100% mint of course. It still sucks though!!   :ahhh
You're absolutely right.. :tu: It's gonna look fine again.. :)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Gareth on September 17, 2009, 12:48:58 AM
That really sucks. :(  Still, when you're done you'll have a great SAK that you've put some time and effort into.  I always find that quite satisfying.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: sappyg on September 17, 2009, 01:31:32 AM
i'm glad the fix is working out.... that's a nice SAK... 
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: max6166 on September 17, 2009, 01:36:57 AM
FWIW, I didn't notice the damage in the original pic either though I see it now.

I look forward to seeing the results of your work though!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 17, 2009, 07:41:43 PM
First of all thanks for talking me out of my panic..  :ahhh   :tu:
It actually came out fine, and I would have no trouble calling it "near mint" now... :D
Soo It might be the score of the year anyway.. 6$ and some work... ;)

Here's the "ressurection" pictures..

Before:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrEksEgnxUI/AAAAAAAACaU/5ZrjqSJY5Mg/s400/DSC03661.JPG)          

During:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrJyUD25KgI/AAAAAAAACbo/-FtjPCL5nDA/s400/DSC03669.JPG)

After:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrJycmXVPiI/AAAAAAAACbs/sZnIa_Ll5tw/s400/DSC03676.JPG)(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrJymhbNB5I/AAAAAAAACb0/e3rBA-woovQ/s400/DSC03687.JPG)
                                          (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_62BM8mgZsqk/SrJ0M4kCk1I/AAAAAAAACcQ/AG-mFaFwrUs/s400/DSC03684.JPG)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Gareth on September 17, 2009, 07:42:48 PM
Wow, good job. :gimme:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 17, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Wow, good job. :gimme:
Thanks, Gareth.. I very pleased with it now, eventhough I still need somekind of polish for the last finish... ;)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: ICanFixThat on September 17, 2009, 08:45:37 PM
Nice Job!   I guess I won't be getting a new SAK in the mail any time soon.
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: cliosguy on September 17, 2009, 08:47:37 PM
great job mate :tu: bet i was fun :)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Mr. Whippy on September 17, 2009, 08:47:46 PM
That's impressive!  I'm gonna have to try cleaning up some users...   :tu:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: John on September 17, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
Wow, good job. :gimme:
Thanks, Gareth.. I very pleased with it now, eventhough I still need somekind of polish for the last finish... ;)

Green magic  ;)


[edit] here ya go it's great stuff  :tu:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140298614377&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3618wt_935 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140298614377&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3618wt_935)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 17, 2009, 09:29:23 PM
Thanks, Guys.. ;)
Makes my effort worth twice as much.. :tu:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Neil on September 17, 2009, 10:23:10 PM
That's a huge improvement  :tu: 

Did you cut yourself?  I almost always end up sacrificing a few drops of blood when polishing a blade like that  ::) :)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: nuphoria on September 17, 2009, 10:24:30 PM
Ooh, lovely job Allan. Well rescued  :tu:
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 17, 2009, 10:26:14 PM
That's a huge improvement  :tu: 

Did you cut yourself?  I almost always end up sacrificing a few drops of blood when polishing a blade like that  ::) :)
Not a single drop of blood.. :) But alot of sweat...  :D

Ooh, lovely job Allan. Well rescued  :tu:
Thanks, Nuph...  :)
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: GraysonK on September 17, 2009, 10:27:21 PM
Great Job, Allan!!!  :D :D Very pretty! 
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: gunga on September 24, 2010, 08:39:23 PM
Wow!  How long did that take you?  Great job!

I often just use a dremel with some white polishing compound, but it's only for finer scratches.  Nothing like yours!

Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: AHB on September 24, 2010, 08:43:04 PM
Wow!  How long did that take you?  Great job!

I often just use a dremel with some white polishing compound, but it's only for finer scratches.  Nothing like yours!


It took a few hours on and off and the SAK is in the US now, but I still have the pics on my HD.. ;)

I did the same with a Wave recently..: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,18934.msg408668.html#msg408668
Title: Re: Help..! Recieved the 84mm smooth alox Cadet...
Post by: Silentsniper441 on September 24, 2010, 09:03:45 PM
Nice job fixing that up! it stinks that it wasn't what you expected but now it looks great.