Beautiful multi plier Kevin! That version is the same one I used survived over 10 years of daily use and was only retired, because I started collecting MTs!
I would go weeks sometimes with nice blisters on my palm. Especially with lighting repair and those thin polished 3/8th IPS nuts they use on lamp pipe. :ahhh
Version 1 has arrived. A beautifully polished MT. All tool are butter smooth to open. The quality exceeds that of my v.2, v. 3, and v.4. A very pleasant surprise! The scissors are pretty lame though. It really has a 'hand crafted' excellence about it. :multi:
Version 1 has arrived. A beautifully polished MT. All tool are butter smooth to open. The quality exceeds that of my v.2, v. 3, and v.4. A very pleasant surprise! The scissors are pretty lame though. It really has a 'hand crafted' excellence about it. :multi:
Thank you! :tu:Version 1 has arrived. A beautifully polished MT. All tool are butter smooth to open. The quality exceeds that of my v.2, v. 3, and v.4. A very pleasant surprise! The scissors are pretty lame though. It really has a 'hand crafted' excellence about it. :multi:
Nice one :tu:
Unless my eyes are deceiving me it looks has even had one of the the running improvements they made to the V1s as they went - a nail nick on a blade that actually lines up with the cutout in the handle (the very early V1s didn't) ;)
But nobody can convince me that that that enormously thick lanyard ring isn't also serving duty as a spacer. I reckon they could have added at least 3 more (admittedly very short) tools in that width.
Even Mr. Pinchy needs some holiday spirit!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4573/38161803525_e57e5a223c_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/219edDK)MTs at Christmas (https://flic.kr/p/219edDK) by None (https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexkerhead/), on Flickr
Infamously bad Version 1 Multi Plier Scissors. They work on copy paper...sometimes. :P
Infamously bad Version 1 Multi Plier Scissors. They work on copy paper...sometimes. :P
inspired by Lynn's scissors thread?
I sure like the MP series' scissors, but never tried the ones in an old Mr.Pinchy! :salute:
Recently got one that in very good condition.. Almost new. But but but.... How do you use these things...? It's like zero handle splay.. I am sure everyone that uses these gets pinch in the palm/fingers and it's no joke... It's built like a tank.... Btw, I notice there's these 2 holes on both sides of the pliers pivot. Are they adjustable? Mine is kinda too tight to be usable.And that's why we call them the infamous Mr. Pinchy. :tu:
And avoid cutting anything hard with the wire cutters. When it goes through, the handles close up very rapidly indeed, and hey presto, instant blood blister on your palm !Indeed! Those are the best blisters. :D
:cry: :ahhh
Not quite a blood blister but it is christmas so awarded. :cheers:Thank you and Merry Christmas! :salute:
Took the MP out yesterday for "old-time-sake" and had forgotten how to avoid the pinch after not using one for so long. Not a bad pinch, but a pinchy bite nonetheless. Slipped off a 3/8" lamp pipe nut. :facepalm:
Badge please. :angel:
Nice collection :like:Thank ya, MM! :)
Picked up my first Gerber with a sliding plier head a few days ago :multi: I’m usually a Leatherman type of guy, but it sure is fun to play around with :D It was in bad condition when I got it, but after some cleaning it works great! The spring tension for the folding tools is kind of bad, so there’s some wiggle in the lockup though :think:Congrats on the Gerber multi-plier! Looks to be in nice condition after you worked on it!
Picked up my first Gerber with a sliding plier head a few days ago :multi: I’m usually a Leatherman type of guy, but it sure is fun to play around with :D It was in bad condition when I got it, but after some cleaning it works great! The spring tension for the folding tools is kind of bad, so there’s some wiggle in the lockup though :think:Congrats on the Gerber multi-plier! Looks to be in nice condition after you worked on it!
The spring retention is an issue on multi-pliers that were well-loved. You can unscrew the button head screw on the tool ends of the handles and remove the tools. Then you can gently(easy...tiny bit at a time ) bend the spring tab in 2-3 millimeters inwards.
Re-install the tools the same way you removed them and put the pivot bolt/screw back in. Oil up and see how you like it. :tu:
I've never had to heat one to get it to move. The spring tab seems to have a poor spring steel treatment from the factory. The only tools I have ever had to bend the tab on were early multi-pliers and two of my early bear jaws MTs. Just be careful and stop bending the tab if it starts to bend too much. :tu:Picked up my first Gerber with a sliding plier head a few days ago :multi: I’m usually a Leatherman type of guy, but it sure is fun to play around with :D It was in bad condition when I got it, but after some cleaning it works great! The spring tension for the folding tools is kind of bad, so there’s some wiggle in the lockup though :think:Congrats on the Gerber multi-plier! Looks to be in nice condition after you worked on it!
The spring retention is an issue on multi-pliers that were well-loved. You can unscrew the button head screw on the tool ends of the handles and remove the tools. Then you can gently(easy...tiny bit at a time ) bend the spring tab in 2-3 millimeters inwards.
Re-install the tools the same way you removed them and put the pivot bolt/screw back in. Oil up and see how you like it. :tu:
I see, thanks for the advice! Should I apply heat to the spring when I bend it, or do I mess up the heat treat that way? :think:
It worked well! I also took the time to polish up all the individual implements on the contact surface and applied some oil. Now the tools open butter smooth too! Thanks for the help :cheers:[/quote]
You're welcome! Congrats on getting your Multi-Plier in tip-top shape! They are awesome MTs (aside from the pinchy part) for sure. A lot of tool in a small package.It worked well! I also took the time to polish up all the individual implements on the contact surface and applied some oil. Now the tools open butter smooth too! Thanks for the help :cheers:
Oh yeah. Pinchy V.3 was out to play today. :multi:
Being the usual itchy hand here, I added 2 tiny washers to the screw at the sliding part, opening up the splay a little. One side of the lock is disabled. With one side, it locked up still fine. Just for a bit of fun and messing around. Not too keen to get the Coveted Blood Blister Badge...
Being the usual itchy hand here, I added 2 tiny washers to the screw at the sliding part, opening up the splay a little. One side of the lock is disabled. With one side, it locked up still fine. Just for a bit of fun and messing around. Not too keen to get the Coveted Blood Blister Badge...
You chicken ! .... :pok: :rofl:
Hey Greg, have u receive your stuff yet?
Hey Greg, have u receive your stuff yet?
Yes thank you, and very happy with it too :tu:
I've sent you two emails so far, have you checked your junk folder ?
I'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
I'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
Thank you, gregozedobe! :cheers:I'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
Nice older Gerbers :salute: :tu:
Good eye, Sam! The 3rd has little washers I installed between the handles and plier body. 1/16" extra gap, so the bite isn't so bloody. :ahhhI'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
The 2nd row, 3rd and 4th doesn't look so pinchy. Did you do something or are they stock? I bet your blood blister badges are piling up.. :rofl:
Thank you, gregozedobe! :cheers:I'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
Nice older Gerbers :salute: :tu:Good eye, Sam! The 3rd has little washers I installed between the handles and plier body. 1/16" extra gap, so the bite isn't so bloody. :ahhhI'm gonna pinch ya..five times. :ahhh
The 2nd row, 3rd and 4th doesn't look so pinchy. Did you do something or are they stock? I bet your blood blister badges are piling up.. :rofl:
The 4th is a version 4 needle nose with rivets holding in the pliers. I guess by version 4 they designed the plier head to give the handles some splay. Which is nice. :cheers:
It takes quite a bit of fiddling to get it perfect. Mine has washers on the "top and bottom" screws on one side and a washer in the "bottom" of the other side.
I have a version 2 ( I think).. I tried to install a washer inbetween where you mentioned but it's not exactly working. The spring and the buttons are rather short.. Not enough to lock up the pliers when extended.. I ended up only doing on one side only..
That's alot of Pinchies!! :like:They want your palm! >:D
More updated Pinchy pics!
Excellent assortment of Mr Pinchies, GLBM :tu: :hatsoff:Thank you much, Greg! :cheers:
Thank you much, Greg! :cheers:
The only Pinchy I can think of that would kind of round the set off is a BO V.4.
Are there any important oddball versions I'm missing that you know of, Greg?
Just as something to keep an eye out for later down the road. :)
Doesn't hurt the function, but is cosmetically ugly.
(https://i.imgur.com/VUDyyQz.jpg?1)Basically. Yeah. :rofl:
New member. Only got the one though >:DVery nice, D_T! :like:
:like:Many thanks, D_T! :cheers:
An impressive array GLBM :tu:
Early Trailrider perhaps? Looks like a hoof pick. Either it is a really rare Trailrider-type run, a prototype equestrian MT, or someone made it(to act like the later Trailrider).
Welcome to MT.o, Go Army!
Welcome to the boards mate. :cheers:I own another multiplier (don't have picture) but this one (the one in question) seems nearly identical in quality, etc. - I feel confident it's not a counterfeit based on the other two I own (but I guess that's the point of a counterfeit ... to look real). Sort of really sounding ignorant, but is the value of a hook tool? Truth told I won't use it, it will be put in a drawer as it seems to have some "value" (even if from a novelty standpoint...) and it would be a shame to ruin it....thanks
Have a look around the pivot area and see how well the machining matches up with the other tools.
It's definitely a cool piece.
Thank you - took me a few seconds to even figure out how to reply. I thought about the trail rider but that looks like a more pronounced "L" than this hook. Based on your experience does this seem a factory-type tool or more, as you say, a sort of made-up tool? do you think this is an original? I'm not concerned about value, just trying to figure out what this is .. the other Gerber I have was a gift from the Army for a trip to Iraq and that one is easy to find out about -- so really just sort of fascinated by this (hoping it's not counterfeit, as I'd hate to unwittingly support that indirectly). ThanksYou're quite welcome. :cheers:
:iagree: with zoidberg. That's a good idea. Maybe a photo of the pivot but-end would shed some more light?
You're quite welcome. :cheers:
It is a curiousity for sure. The prototypes don't seem to fetch a premium these days. The old, "is it collectible when only one person can get it?" idea.
But as an oddity, factory or homemade, it is really cool. :)
Gerber doesn't tend to have production tools with tools shaped like that. Like you mentioned, the Trailrider is abruptly styled/shaped and the Trailrider pick seems more at home in a Multi-Plier than the tool pictured. Doesn't mean it isn't a factory prototype though. It very well could be. :)
Don’t know if I’ve posted here... here’s the only Mr. Pinchy I have...Version 2. Very nice! :like:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190724/15b846d19ea31711bd0873b68a8b9209.jpg)
Thanks GLBM... Haven’t yet gone through the pinchy evolution... didn’t know this was a version 2 :cheers::cheers:
Hello everyone.This is my first post in this forum.
I will respect your active discussions and wonderful collection.
I am not good at English. So when I write something strange or rude, I don’t mean that. Please don’t get angry just laugh out.
I also love Mr. Pinchy very much. I have been collecting these charming tools in Japan.
Now, I will show you summary of my collection.
NOTICE
@ This table only depends on my own Mr. Pinchies. It doesn’t take into account any forum members collection. Of course it doesn’t include all of products in the world.
@ I lined up the materials according to my arbitrary judgment. I’m not sure it is correct order.
@ I chose these tool part name selfishly. Please tell me the proper name.
@ Any errors and omissions are my fault.
In making this table, I received many suggestions from this forum.
Thank you very much.
I hope this helps you and this forum.
Wooooaaaa! :o
Fantastic work in Pincheology, hiraboo! :salute:
Thank you so much for putting that all together, and sharing your knowledge, and collection! You're English reads well! :)
Welcome to MT.o, hiraboo! :cheers:
Mr. Pinchy is an all-time favorite of mine. I am looking forward to looking at my Pinchy assortment this evening and noting the evolution of Mr. Pinchy with your charts and info!
Thank you again, and great first post! :like:
If you're interested, here's a break-down of Mr Pinchies I did back in 2014:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,48158.msg928733.html#msg928733
Beautiful great collection gerleatherman! And you are very good at taking photos!!
I think I can put your tools in photos like that.
Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for placing them within the chart, hiraboo! :cheers:
Amazing :oMost definitely, sir! :cheers:
I didn't know that Japanese characters could be displayed.
Translation into Japanese is perfect :tu: Thank you, gerleatherberman!
( May I call you GLBM like others do? )
I agree with GLBM’s opinion about Version designnations.
I’ll provide reference materials about plier jaws.
These are some pictures when I cleaned up my Pinchys.
Now I’m revisioning my chart with new data :think:
Please wait a little longer.
Most definitely, sir! :cheers:
Do you have a preference to be addressed as, or is hiraboo fine? :)
Looking forward to seeing more of your work! :popcorn:
The Pinchy identification system you've created is excellent so far! :like:
Thank you, Hilaboo! :cheers:
The chart looks good. It's amazing how many times Gerber repeated it with a multiplier. :o
They definitely tried not to waste existing parts with the new models. :)
Have you considered incorporating Fiskars brand examples into your charts?
It definitely complicates the project, but the decision to manufacture multipliers under the Fiskars brand has always fascinated me.
Thank you, GLBM!
Yes, my name is ヒラブー :angel:
>They definitely tried not to waste existing parts with the new models. 
I think these words accurately represent the facts. And I see you respect GERBER and its employees. They will be proud to have such a great fan :woohoo:
I will do my best to realize your proposal about FISKARS brand example.
I’m sorry I don’t have FISKARS brand one. So please give me detailed information.
I saw your previous post↓
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74830.msg1887382.html#msg1887382
The tip angle of utility blade (awl) looks sharper than the others.
Is there anything difference ???
Sorry, hiraboo
I had missed the email notice from this thread. I will get the Fiskars out soon and take some more detailed photos alongside one of the version 2 multi pliers.
Thank you for the kind words as well!
Sorry, hiraboo
I had missed the email notice from this thread. I will get the Fiskars out soon and take some more detailed photos alongside one of the version 2 multi pliers.
Thank you for the kind words as well!
Wait, in case of Mr. Pinchy, all models have a common serial number.
Regardless of the ALTERNATE COMPONENT, I think all silver models have #55800 and all black models have #55860. ???
Hmm, I found a little mystery. :ahhh
But it’s fun to imagine all about Mr. Pinchy and the people who made it. ;)
I have a couple of older Mr Pinchies still NIB
Gerber printed it as "ITEM NO. 55800" (stainless) and "ITEM NO. 55860" (black) on my boxes
I think it is better regarded as a part number or item number rather than an individual serial number. A part number is shared with all the other tools that are the same model, whereas a serial number is usually unique to each individual example of the tool (and incremented by 1 as each tool is made). Perhaps it is a language/nomenclature confusion ?
Thanks for the images of the instructions, it is quite useful in showing the difference between the MP600 variants that it covered. It would be nice to see the same for the Fisherman and Cable Cutter variants.
No problem, GLBM :tu:
Please when you have time :)
By the way,
I purchased the FIRST PRODUCTION RUN model with box, cloth sheath and instructions on ebay.
As I wrote above, to revise my charts, I read FPR instructions for the first time.
( We usually don’t read the instructions very often, do we? :D )
Maybe someone pointed out this before, but I want to mention it again.
FPR have a scissors. But in the instructions, there is how to pull out UTILITY BLADE/ALTERNATE COMPONENT. :o
Moving on to the next chapter, there is the word “scissors/file”.
I had thought that they changed alternate component depending on demand, user request, or cost. Now I came up with the idea that they were thinking about producing three different models from beginning.
As if there are various models in MP600.
Wait, in case of Mr. Pinchy, all models have a common serial number.
Regardless of the ALTERNATE COMPONENT, I think all silver models have #55800 and all black models have #55860. ???
Hmm, I found a little mystery. :ahhh
But it’s fun to imagine all about Mr. Pinchy and the people who made it. ;)
FIGURE
Above - instructions of FPR
Below - instructions of MP600
Great find with the first production run, hiraboo! Congratulations!
That is cool what you read on the instructions. Will have to dig the box out for my V1.1BO and check the instructions. True, as we only read the instructions on things we won't be using.
Indeed, all of mine have the concurrent item numbers as well. stainless and oxide.
I feel the same way about the people who were involved with early multi tool making. How did they feel about what they were doing? Did they enjoy the job? What went through their mind when the boss said he needed more production? and so on.
Thank you for posting the instructions for the pinchy and multi plier 600, as well as your efforts in helping sort the multi plier mess out, hiraboo!
Here are the photos I promised. Hope they are OK, as I am still getting acquainted with a new phone camera.
gregozedobe (Let me call you Greg),
Thank you for correcting my mistake. :iagree:
As you say, I should have written “item number” instead of “serial number”. I had misunderstood their meaning. (>_<)
Your explanation is very easy to understand. I appreciate you for teaching me new knowledge!!
( There are many things I don't know about MT. For example, I think "NIB" means "New Item in Box" (;´д`) )
GLBM,それが千枚通しの質問を解決するのを助けてくれてうれしいです!
I feel like climbing up to heaven because of your compliments. (*゚▽゚*)
I hope we can get something new about the early days of this tool!!
Thank you for the detailed photo. You already master the DIGITAL MT (your new phone).
These photos are really helpful. (^o^)
Now I know, when compared, there is no difference about utility blade.
I will incorporate the FISKARS model into the next revision. ٩( ‘ω’ )و
…And I envy you possess it (and of course V1.1 BO). (´ρ`)
Glad it helped clear up the awl question!
And thank you for your work here. A lot of members have done fine work in getting the history of the Multi Pliers straightened out, but have not quite shown it like you have. Most of those types of charts are usually related to Swiss army knives. Nice to see the work you've put into doing it with a different, yet just as important, multi tool company.
Indeed it will be great to finally have a solid historical depiction of the Multi Pliers versions and possibly even ascertain different reasons for tool styles and differences.
Thank you for the kind words, hiraboo! Looking forward to the new chart!
The V1.1 black oxide was a pure stroke of luck, as the seller sold it as a pair to me with the V1.0 first production tool. Good price as well. I am sure you'll find one soon, and a fiskars branded one as well. I hope your Fiskars branded version is in better condition than mine was to start.
Glad it helped clear up the awl question!
And thank you for your work here. A lot of members have done fine work in getting the history of the Multi Pliers straightened out, but have not quite shown it like you have. Most of those types of charts are usually related to Swiss army knives. Nice to see the work you've put into doing it with a different, yet just as important, multi tool company.
Indeed it will be great to finally have a solid historical depiction of the Multi Pliers versions and possibly even ascertain different reasons for tool styles and differences.
Thank you for the kind words, hiraboo! Looking forward to the new chart!
The V1.1 black oxide was a pure stroke of luck, as the seller sold it as a pair to me with the V1.0 first production tool. Good price as well. I am sure you'll find one soon, and a fiskars branded one as well. I hope your Fiskars branded version is in better condition than mine was to start.
Thank you too for always the kind words. o(´▽`*)/♪
I thought it was more simple job, didn’t expect to be so complicated. <(; ̄ ・ ̄)=3
However, thanks to the achievements of the forum so far, I was not at a loss. It was a lot of fun to research what I liked.
And above all, I'm glad to share my knowledge with friends of the same hobby. (^_^ )
If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
(Of course, you are one of giants! )
I purchased one Mr. Pinchy on ebay that can be added to the charts.
And fortunately, I find the FISKARS model on Japanese auction! (≧∇≦)
I think you have brought good luck, thank you, GLBM!!
I will start job when they arrive.
FIGURE
Oh, my GERBER!! This is’t version 6 model…
May I join the “knock-off owners club”?
You're certainly welcome, my friend!
And thank you for the kind words in return, hiraboo!
Congrats on finding the Fiskars version at auction. Always cool when hobbies align with available acquisitions.
Great to see you also found one of the many Chinese made clones of the multi plier. If memory serves me correctly, here are a few other versions of the Fiskars(Gerber) licensed multi plier; Carolina Knife and Tool(early version with four slide screws and blunt pliers), Carolina Knife and Tool(later version with two slide screws and two rivet screws), Winchester branded blint pliers version, Winchester branded Fishing tool(super long jaws - 2 screw and 2 rivet slide), Renegade branded Fishing tool(super long jaws - 2 screw and 2 rivet slide), and an unknown fixed plier clone(that gregozedobe bought from ChopperCharles).
Your clone looks to be very similar to the Carolina Knife and Tool branded variety, but it only says "stainless steel". Interesting!
GLBM,
Thank you for patiently trying to understand my funny English. (* ̄m ̄)
And thank you for your always kind words.
I got a little more confident in English communication. I'll try to post something in another thread. c⌒っ*´з`)φ.....
I hope to meet you elsewhere!
Great examples, Captain! :like:
I've got those versions, so gotta pass. But, anyone who needs them, the Captain is great to deal with!
My modest MP collection :hatsoff:Very nice group, Ivo! :like:
Well I finally have my first experience with an MP400 living up to the name Mr. Pinchy the other day. Thankfully not that bad, but wow did this pinch haha. Still the MP600 and MP400 remain one of my favorite Gerber multi tools around and the MP400 especially is very helpful with EDC.Glad it wasn't bad, CC!
For the life of me though, I cannot understand why Gerber put the nail nick on the inside of the knife rather than the outside with the MP400 though. Better yet would have to have the same blade design, but with a rectangular slot as the first generation MP400 did.
My modest MP collection :hatsoff:
Hi guys,Looks like a nice condition Mr Pinchy you have there from the mid-90s. :like:
Just stumbled onto this page while trying to work out what model Gerber I have so I can get a leather pouch for it, I actually found it in a back country hut in New Zealand.
Looks like a “Mr pinchy” as you call it, an excellent name for it :) Oh and no scissors on my one?!
See attached pics...
Replaced a cigarette power plug on my camping light today. Mr Pinchy and the soldering iron was all I needed. All good now... :salute:Light is always a good thing! Nice set up :like: :cheers:
More usage. Mr Pinchy to pinch close a faulty zipper on a tent bag. These things always too small for the tent and pop open. :(Nice use! :cheers:
> SteveC
As McStitchy stated, I think this type of pliers is valuable.
Great find! (*´ο`*)=3
Will you exchange this awl(utility blade) to the file?
I think it's better to buy another later model with a file.
(*・∀-)☆
:ahhh
... that's a very creative way of doing it Steve :angel:
・The V1.2 with Two Handle Cut-Outs, Thin Lanyard
Despite Greg's report of this model, I doubted if it really existed.
I'm sorry Greg, you are right!
I had no doubts about the existence of this particular early Mr Pinchy, as I have 7 examples of it. :D ( I have a fairly extensive collection of V1.x Mr Pinchies)
All have the "thinner" (but still fairly thick) lanyard loop, matched nail nicks, and the angled machining on the can opener.
I am unable to post photos of my MTs, but am happy to answer all reasonable questions :tu:
How thick is that lanyard loop? :ahhh
Metal slide buttons?I think it is a V2.1
That's an old one!
I was just trying to point out I'm the same person here and there :DI wondered cool
Only the pivot is shaky. Mayby a service on the pliers and pivot would help him out
Hi guy's I'm after a bit of advice, I've been offered a brand new in the box black oxide pinchy for £70 and I was wondering if it's worth it?
> MadPlumbarian
Thank you for your wonderful memories. ٩(^ᴗ^)۶
The tools helped you in tough situation. And it would also have helped your cousin.
Big awl Multiplier for me. 8)
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=74830.0;attach=492531)
I want one! :drool:
PM me with some details of what you want, I might be able to help you out - I have some that I might let go (well, dozens actually).
Could an MTO wizard please post a link to the post that lists all the different versions of MrPinchy? :salute:
:salute:
I saw the Fiskars one in Chako's episodes thread. :drool:
Why is the MP evolution not a sticky? :pok:
I copied much of the following info from a earlier post on MTo (possibly by Bob ? ), with revisions and additions from looking at various Mr Pinchies (and some assumptions on my part). Naturally any errors/omissions are my fault. If anyone has any corrections and/or extra info please speak up (eg which versions were made with a BO finish). Sorry, I can't do photos. I hope this helps out all those interested in the development of gerber's (in)famous "Mr Pinchy".
EARLY GERBER MULTI-PLIERS ("Mr Pinchy")
Gerber kept making small changes to their Multi-Plier throughout the 1990's, so we tend to see a lot of subtle variations. Some were stamped and sold with the Fiskars logo, and at least some of these had slightly different tool loads (Fiskars owned Gerber at that time). At some stage Gerber started making a BO finish available, as well as the much more common bead blasted SS finish. Here's a summary of the main steps along the way:
Version 1) The very first models had a high-polish finish, instead of the bead blast we've seen on Gerber tools since. It also had button-head screws in all four blade pivot points, and button head screws on the plier slides. Also note the pivot bushing between the plier jaws. A crude pair of scissors was included, and a VERY thick Lanyard clip. The very first run of Multi-Pliers were etched with “FIRST PRODUCTION RUN” (a.k.a. “FPR” ) on one handle.
V1.0 FPR
V1.1 One handle cut-out, mis-matched nail nicks (don’t line up with cut-outs)
V1.2 One handle cut-out, matched nail nicks
V1.2 Two handle cut-outs, matched nail nicks
All ? “PATENT PENDING”
Version 2) The second version went to the now-familiar bead blast finish. The scissors were replaced by a big triangular shaped awl. This version still has button head pivots, button head sliders, and the pivot bushing between the plier jaws. The pliers had slightly beefier jaws with a squarer shape, while the lanyard clip was slimmed to a more “normal” thickness.
V2.0 “PATENT PENDING”
V2.1 “U.S. PATENT NO 5142721”
Version 3) This version wasn't much of a change really. They simply did away with the pivot bushing.
All ? “U.S. PATENT NO 5142721”
Version 4) Changes: On one side of each handle, the button head screw was replaced with a round nut, while a file replaced the large awl.
V4.0 “U.S. PATENT NO
5142721/5142844” NB The 5142844 # was possibly an error, as later versions all used 5212844.
V4.1 “ U.S. 5142721
PATENT 5212844
PAT PEND”
Version 5) This introduced a new, even beefier shape to the blunt nose plier jaws, and needle nose jaws were offered for the first time as well. Gone were the button head slider screws, replaced by two different sizes of round-headed rivets.
All ? “U.S. 5142721
PATENT 5212844
PAT PEND”
At this point Gerber stopped with the minor evolutions of the Multi-Plier (Mr Pinchy) and came out with a major overhaul. Called the Multi-Lock when it first hit the market, the new tool had all-locking blades, plastic sliding lock releases, unique blade-pivot screws, the now familiar little circlip spring steel slider clips, etc.
After a while this tool became the 600-series Multi-Plier (MP600), with all its many tool component and plier type configurations. The very first ones were also stamped "First Production Run" (FPR).
All ? “U.S. 5142721
PATENT 5212844
PAT PEND” NB This is stamped inside the handle, not externally as before (and in a very small font).This information was last updated by gregozedobe on 5 August 2014
> Greg
Oh, if you're thinking of letting go of your valuable collection :drool:, please give me the detailed information. I would like to put your collection on my chart.
(For the time being, please tell me about your V1 collection.)
Please fill in the following items like
- Surface finishing:
- Plier head:
- Nail mark position:
- Handle cutout:
- Unique tool:
- Lanyard ring:
- Patent Marking:
- Font:
- Can opener claw:
- Gap between handles:
- Joining methods:
- Ruler:
Sorry to trouble you, but I would like to keep a record of your rare collection. :salute:
It probably should be in this thread :tu:
I am thinking of starting a new thread with this information, and include pictures of as many versions as I can, so we can have a reference guide detailing the evolution of MrPinchy with pictures. Since I only have one version, I would be reposting pictures originally taken and shared by other members. I am new to MrPinchy, compared to other members, so I do not want to step on anyone's toes and make the thread. Even though it will be a valuable resource, it feels wrong for me to simply copy/paste other people's hard work and make the thread. So if anyone wants to make the thread, please say so.
A special thanks to Greg for helping me out on this one :cheers:Nice example!! :drool:
(https://i.imgur.com/LrqMQuk.jpg)
A special thanks to Greg for helping me out on this one :cheers:
(https://i.imgur.com/LrqMQuk.jpg)
Of course, Professor Greg knows all the timelines as usual.
But he just forgets where his notes are. (ノД`)
( ´ー`)。о (Sorry Greg, I'm just kidding.)
Thank you warm words. ( ´͈ ᵕ `͈ )
But my work relies on the great achievement of J-sews and gregozedobe. What I did is just to visualize them.
As you said, it is hard to determine the timeline. I think I can only guess when the particular model has appeared looking closely to pictures on Gerber catalogs, or sellers advertisement on magazines. But I don't have catalogs from that time at all. ┏(-_-;)┓
Of course, Professor Greg knows all the timelines as usual.
But he just forgets where his notes are. (ノД`)
( ´ー`)。о (Sorry Greg, I'm just kidding.)
UPO 1 / 20
Black FISKARS with P-8n pliers
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWZvOz-PVMceV_mpIQRTjk1_-0oc1BR3OfUbgW8E0fUsUAclkUStzjfgev5WGGBORSPdkEBBGiLUhYiPHLvu22Jwt6JrrASjvuonEmnRubFZvBLrKEy3R7mvvU-2zz-aznq_iaOvAbxAY3e7OR0UBez=w1600-h1200-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLU1IGq-PKDZOoTqw34RfeyKCRkZFfWZ4BV4CXuCsWf9atapZ5MAvqnKIoqrihL9KPL40MW0sbht_MtyjmiVWyBLrGa_fI-JIdKiA_0Xw_Xw9ewaQ4h7oOo5j-4D0wb1fi2daMO99T1gUZR0rePkZFHc=w1600-h1200-no)
Almost all FISKARS models have a utility blade instead of a can opener.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVRPP03gL-UhxVs15vzJ4_ZVQ39plHRgX2-tYP80xG1EOiuxcbWLW0mA1HWVZKaU6ed5GzaVPRBuO8-cQN4LLsYvrX7G6gS7EI1d8H2J90jIOxzSqA939k1Dft0zT1oAYWEjcH1LIJKucfxV8d3zjyh=w1600-h1200-no)
P-8n pliers is shorter than normal(P-8N) needle nose pliers.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV5tTa-YU0Yv35G4uxt-8X_mmq_3tozETh60KMHKz76etUnexcup8ksjy4C-x7TWqYScDSHpH-kbhiHt_xWvnTlXZGx6M4eue-6Swv1-Iz8gg3OLRw7aBRmVLlRn9IkYEczFXeR657AHQST7jVQP_5n=w1600-h1200-no)
So P-8n pliers is not overhang when sliding to inside.
...
Some of the catalogues I've seen pictures of haven't been very helpful in establishing timelines, as the actual production tools had significant differences to some of the ones pictured in the catalogues. I think they were most likely pre-production mock-ups built just for the catalogues.
Off topic but, why can't Fiskars bring back that scissors size, with the current spring design!?!? That would make the Pro Scout and Bladeless an even better tool!!! (or even incorporate it to the Basic model by replacing the current openers for the combo tool of the Suspension NXT!) :think: :tu:
Oooh, ok; thanks, Greg. I thought they might have been better. :tu:
I've never tried them myself but I remember it being said that these were the worst scissors "Fiskars" ever made. :D
To be fair I had an idea these might have been designed and made before Fiskars actually got control of Gerber MT production.
...
Now I am preparing next post to introduce UPO 18 / 20. But on the way, I made a new discovery. ('O'*)
So please wait next post just a little.
Just want to say a huge thanks for all your work to this Hiraboo. And of course to all the others that add new informations and keep this thread going :cheers:100% :iagree: great work hiraboo. I look forward to see a group photo of all your Pinchys when you finish showing each in such good detail. :salute:
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100% :iagree: great work hiraboo[/b]. I look forward to see a group photo of all your Pinchys when you finish showing each in such good detail. :salute:
Just want to say a huge thanks for all your work to this Hiraboo. And of course to all the others that add new informations and keep this thread going :cheers:
:iagree:
Thank you all for your research, knowledge, collections, web site management and most of all, your time; the wealth of information found in MT.o (also fun to go through and participate) is invaluable to appreciate "these crazy gadgets".
"GERBER USA" Engraved | Nail nick position | |
・Type I (upper) | - | inside (mismatch) |
・Type II (middle) | ● | inside (mismatch) |
・Type III (lower) | ● | outside (match) |
By the way, do you remember I said (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74830.msg2263367.html#msg2263367) there are 829,440 models in calculation.
Now we know there are three plain edge blades and three serrated edge blades.
Let's calculate again !
829,440 x 3 x 3
= 7,464,960
Things are getting worse...
> Greg
3 boxes ?
I heard you store your collection in 3 cargo containers..
The number of pliers "teeth(I don't know their real name)" is also different.
P-1 pliers have 11 "teeth". On the other hand, P-2 pliers have 5 "teeth".
I hope you find this information useful.
> McStitchy
Thank you very much! But I apologize, because...
M-4 patent marking was appeared during the period when V4 was sold. V5 was sold later.
So my guess is not correct that they changed M-3 to M-4 around later 1995. (´Д`|||)
It should be earlier.
Looking the chart closely, it seems that M-4 was appeared at the same time when the metric scale was put on one handle. I need to find that some sellers ware advertising the metric scale as a new feature of Multi-Plier. <●><●>
In 1996, the MPT5 was released first, then the V5 needle-nose model was released.
Influenced by the success of the MPT5, Gerber may have improved the Multi-Plier, the V5 needle-nose model.
Who do you think made the better choice all these years later?
I got what I think is a 4.1 today, along with a pretty nice little holster for it. Never realized how much variance there was pre MP600. Kind of cool to have something close to the 600 toolset in a body around the size of the 400.
I'm biased there. The LM Super Tool was my first MT beside a SAK :P
I wanted my MT to have a wood.
Anyhow, we were both happy with our choices :tu:
I'm biased there. The LM Super Tool was my first MT beside a SAK :P
I wanted my MT to have a wood saw.
Anyhow, we were both happy with our choices :tu:
OG Supertool was my first LM and I carried it for many years without issue. Maybe if I wasn't carrying it for work reasons I'd have been tempted with something else but for what I was using it for nothing else at the time would have been better. With that said; in my current life I've not felt the need for a heavy duty MT in a long time so a Multiplier is far more likely to find it's way into my pocket.
It looks brand new Rich! Congratulations on getting a new old friend :tu:
I'll be joining this club soon as I have a couple in route in nice condition.
But curious, as I just bought this one in very used condition, since I thought it would make a good candidate to try my cleaning skills.
Would you have bought it? Might be a $15 mistake...we will see.
Ad is still up:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404647618499
Well... I seem to have posted in the wrong thread earlier today because I thought I owned a MP600.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,52129.msg2443259.html#msg2443259 (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,52129.msg2443259.html#msg2443259)
I posted about how I've owned a Gerber multitool for 25 years or so now and didn't realize what I had... and didn't even really think of it as being a multitool! I've linked the thread and won't repeat all the text of it here... but I will repeat the pictures!
So here it is - I bought this when I was 15 or 16 years old, which was in 1997 or 1998. I'm the only owner and it has been kept in its pouch and only used a few times per year since that time...
I'll be joining this club soon as I have a couple in route in nice condition.
But curious, as I just bought this one in very used condition, since I thought it would make a good candidate to try my cleaning skills.
Would you have bought it? Might be a $15 mistake...we will see.
Ad is still up:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404647618499
Are there dates anywhere on it?Can't find any. Looked inside both handles.
My first one arrived today so I can put in my request to officially join the club. My MiniChamp had to open the package because I'm in that challenge until midnight. :hatsoff:
:like: :like: :like: :like: I can't believe the condition, especially of the sheath!
Mr. Pinchy in the middle:
Well, if this doesn't make me want to scour eBay....Do it! :rofl:
In 2014, I found a super duper deal on MP600's at Dick's Sporting Goods (I don't remember what I paid), so I bought 2 cases of them - 24 units. I think I've given away about half of them since then.[/i]
Bought this from a store a looong time ago but didn’t know its nickname till now.
Finally found and purchased a First Production Run Mr Pinchy. It is used, but it was the only one I found. Photo from sales ad.
Might need some tips on which polish to use on it to get the original shine back. It is arriving tomorrow, can't wait! :woohoo:
Gerber First Production Run arrived today, very shiny. Shows reflection of the leaves on the tree.
Thank you Vicman and McStitchy! :cheers:
Thank you Barry. :hatsoff: It does show use, but somehow that photo made it look new, but no matter, I do like it and glad I found it.
Are any of the Ver 2, high gloss? This one looks glossy to me. Photo from sales ad.
I bought this today and it isn't a Ver 1 since it doesn't have scissors, it has the Awl.
Maybe it isn't glossy, it's hard to tell from the photos. :dunno:
Based on post #86 in this thread, this lies between a 1.2 gloss/scissors and a 2.0 which is bead blast and awl.
Based on post #86 in this thread, this lies between a 1.2 gloss/scissors and a 2.0 which is bead blast and awl.
I'm leaning more towards a V2.0 that has had a good polish. The pliers look like V2.0 pliers to me (significantly more robust than the weird looking "skinny" V1 pliers), as do the internal tools. How thick is the lanyard attachment ? It was super thick on all of my V1's, but somewhat narrower on V2's (still thick though).Ahhh, the lanyard attachment, forgot about that. This is the narrower one with an equally sized spacer next to it....your version 2.0 seems right to me. :tu:
Just posted this in the what's your latest Gerber thread, but thought it belongs here too.
A new-to-me black oxide Multiplier never opened from what I can tell with the seal wrap still on.
Unsure when I will open it. :dunno:
:like: :like::iagree:
One more Mr. Pinchy in route. Never had one with Fiskars on it. I don't think that sheath is original. :dunno:
One more Mr. Pinchy in route. Never had one with Fiskars on it. I don't think that sheath is original. :dunno:
When Gerber accepts a warranty on a Mr. Pinchy via photo, what replacement item do they send? :think:I'm quoting myself because this mystery will soon be solved.
The replacement for a broken Mr. Pinchy, at least what I received, is the MP600.
Thank you Vicman! :cheers:
One more Mr. Pinchy in route. Never had one with Fiskars on it. I don't think that sheath is original. :dunno:
You are acquiring some nice ones Lisa ! :like:
You are acquiring some nice ones Lisa ! :like:Thank you! :hatsoff:
Congrats on such a nice tool and, right you are; that sheath, although not original to your tool (or even vintage), belonged to an interesting multi tool from Gerber, aimed at cyclists (Bicyclists, that is). Here's a picture, and a link to some info.Cool Juan! :cheers:
I don’t know what is more impressive Steve. Really like the Ebony on your folder. The Gerber ain’t half bad either. :like: :like: :like:
Just posted this in the what's your latest Gerber thread, but thought it belongs here too.I have three of the original versions, but I've never seen the original version in black, much less still with the original seal! If it were mine, I would keep it sealed, but that's just my 2 cents. Enjoy it however you choose. T-A
A new-to-me black oxide Multiplier never opened from what I can tell with the seal wrap still on.
Unsure when I will open it. :dunno:
I have three of the original versions, but I've never seen the original version in black, much less still with the original seal! If it were mine, I would keep it sealed, but that's just my 2 cents. Enjoy it however you choose. T-AI appreciate your comment. I have kept it sealed. I have others I can use. :tu: