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Non Tool Forum => The Break Room => Topic started by: Benner on October 25, 2009, 12:14:26 AM
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Let me set the scene....
It's a Friday night and you are living in a house with your pregnant wife (who is currently ill) and your 2 children. Your house is in a quiet area of a town that backs onto a large open field, near no drinking places or on any routes to train stations or anything, and only people that live near you or visiting those near you would really be going past your house at any given time. At 2.30am, someone starts slowly knocking on your front door, on and off for about 5 mins.
I'm curious as this in fact happened to me last night and after telling people about it, many people have had different ideas about what they would have done. So, what would you do given that scenario?
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I woulda woke up my 160 lb Ridgeback, who is fairly cranky, and make sure he's out and about in the house. Then I'd call out a window if the somebody needs help. If no answer, I'd call the cops (and here at least, I'd wake my wife and load a gun--she's a better shot).
If someone needed help, I'd hate to turn them away, :angel:
but if someone's looking to be an ass, well, Joey doesn't like asses. Remember, take a bite outta crime. >:D
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I woulda woke up my 160 lb Ridgeback, who is fairly cranky, and make sure he's out and about in the house. Then I'd call out a window if the somebody needs help. If no answer, I'd call the cops (and here at least, I'd wake my wife and load a gun--she's a better shot).
If someone needed help, I'd hate to turn them away, :angel:
but if someone's looking to be an ass, well, Joey doesn't like asses. Remember, take a bite outta crime. >:D
Just to be clear, the knocking was slow, and "calm" if that makes any sense. It wasn't frantic-like like you would expect from a person in need.
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Oh, and it went on for 5+ mins. If it was a needy person surely they would have gone elsewhere in that time?
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Did you see who it was through a window either when they were there or as they left?
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Because of the angle between my bedroom window and the front door I couldn't quite see. They obviously walked off, but they either went across my front garden and didn't use the path, or they went into my back garden.
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Something similar happened to me about 6 years ago. I came around the house (went out a different door from the one they were knocking on) with a tactical light & my USP .45 drawn down on them. (I've got a touch of PTSD) It was 4:30 in the mornin' & I just fell asleep before3 the knocking started. It was an older lady, she looked 70, but was dressed like a clubbin' 18 year old. She asked me to give her a ride up the road, I refused & sent her walkin' on her own. She was obviously mentally ill (which is my profession) & kept inchin' towards me even after I drew down on her. Really thought I was gonna have to put her down. She stopped comin' at me & went walkin' down the road. I called the law & described her to them. She apparently was a resident at a group home about 10 miles away stat houses severely mentally ill & chronic substance abusers. Apparently she had been coaxed out of the home to trade sex for drugs. When they got the sex they wanted, they simply sat her out to hoof it home. Feel bad for her in a way, but I've gotta look after me & mine.
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Well I'm in the good ol' UK where you aren't allowed to defend yourself ::), but I did consider loading up my air rifle as the look and sound alone would have probably scared someone off. Thing is, I would have got in more trouble with the law than the guy doing the knocking, even if he was wanting to bash me over the head and rob me blind.
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Yeah I'm aware of your location, but I've seen Hot fuzz! I know y'all are packin' heat like Rambo! I'm just pickin', not answerin' the door is probably your best option when the law isn't on your side.
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Yeah I'm aware of your location, but I've seen Hot fuzz! I know y'all are packin' heat like Rambo!
Only Flash is apparently. :D
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I would have done the same thing as Bowman--walked around the front of the house with Springfield and flashlight in hand.
I live out in the country, so someone would have to come way out of their way to come knockin' on my door.
If I were in the UK, I have no idea what I'd have done...
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My very loud neighbours came back from the pub last night at about 2am, yelling to each other, clearly p*ssed out of their brains. Mother, daughter and son. They do it a lot.
Not exactly the same situation as yours Ben, but what I did was open the front door and ask them to shut the f*ck up. It worked too, which is actually kind of unusual. They really are the loudest bunch of tossers I've ever heard. I can hear them now, "talking" to each other like their quarter of a mile apart ::)
Sounds like you got it right in your situation though Ben. It could have been kids mucking about, or it could have been more serious. If they went away, it was possibly the best outcome.
I don't agree with the "can't defend yourself" argument though - you can I believe, use reasonable force to defend your person or property. Self-defence is a legitimate concept in the UK.
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Ok I was probably a bit OTT with that comment, but with todays "technicalities" and all the other BS, you have to be bloody careful about what you do do.
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On a different note, if they were casing the place & thought you weren't home at that time, maybe they'll come back & attempt to enter. Then they're bought & paid for.
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I do have a Kukri next to the bed for such events. >:D :D
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That sounds kind of scary, Ben. When I was a teenager something similar happened to me while my parents were out of town and my sister was at a friend's house. I had a couple of dogs in the house so it was a little different, but I went through and started randomly turning on lights in the house and turning them off again, like there were a couple of different people home...ya know? I didn't go near the window because I didn't want anyone to know I was home by myself. I knew where all the weapons were and I had a baseball bat at hand just in case. And I kept the dogs in the house with me. When the knocking stopped, I made sure that the curtains for the big picture window and the sliding glass door to the deck were closed and then holed up in the living room. I called a neighbor and asked them if they could see anyone sneaking around the house.
Wow, that just sounds hinky to me. Here in my apartment complex random people, usually drunk, sometimes start knocking and get pissed off when I don't open the door but again if the dogs bark they go away pretty quickly. Are you wife and kids ok? I'm sorry your wife doesn't feel well, I hope she feels better soon. :D
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My wife was pretty freaked out TBH as it wasn't the fact that there was knocking, but how they knocked. Like I said, it was very slow and as the wife described "creepy". My only real concern was that someone was casing the joint and was going to break in the back door thinking no one was in. I had loaded myself up just in case though. :D
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Ok I was probably a bit OTT with that comment, but with todays "technicalities" and all the other BS, you have to be bloody careful about what you do do.
I know where you're coming from. Waving the Kukri about might be going a bit far :D
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At the time that seemed like the best option. :D
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Good for you. That honestly would have freaked me out. I'm glad everyone is ok though. Honestly there just isn't a right way to handle things like that. I've heard, turn on all the lights or leave all of them off or call the cops or make noise or be quiet....I guess it just depends. Normal people seem to be overly paranoid and criminals seem to be less concerned with getting caught and trouble makers just don't care because they figure that if they do get caught then they'll be able to get out of it especially if someone like you defends themselves. it's crazy and scary. I think you did the right thing.
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You could have done this too...but I think it might be a little over the top. :) Excuse the language he uses. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcHqTW4IjnM
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I thought that was reasonable myself. :D
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No guns here, so tough one. I'd probably sneak to a window that gives me a clear view of front and anyone walking away from the door, with my machete in hand. Oh and my brightest flashlight too. The said position also allow me to sneak up on anyone who busts in from behind. Actually I do that with any knock in day time too for ones that I suspect to be salesman or similar, without the machete/flashlight part obviously.
You know that makes wonder, if someone actually busts in, would I be lop their head off with one swing from my machete?
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I recently read of a non-lethal option that makes some sense to me...
A small Fire extinguisher...a face full of fire extinguishing chemicals would make it had to see and breathe and you have an impact weapon in hand should the need arise.
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No guns here, so tough one. I'd probably sneak to a window that gives me a clear view of front and anyone walking away from the door, with a machete in hand. The said position also allow me to sneak on on anyone bust in from behind.
You know that makes wonder, if someone actually bust in, would I be lop their head off with one swing from my machete?
Sadly I don't have such a window. :(
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No guns here, so tough one. I'd probably sneak to a window that gives me a clear view of front and anyone walking away from the door, with a machete in hand. The said position also allow me to sneak on on anyone bust in from behind.
You know that makes wonder, if someone actually bust in, would I be lop their head off with one swing from my machete?
Sadly I don't have such a window. :(
I have peep holes installed in my front doors.
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No guns here, so tough one. I'd probably sneak to a window that gives me a clear view of front and anyone walking away from the door, with a machete in hand. The said position also allow me to sneak on on anyone bust in from behind.
You know that makes wonder, if someone actually bust in, would I be lop their head off with one swing from my machete?
Sadly I don't have such a window. :(
I can't actually see people standing at my front door either, but can see anybody leaving unless they walk directly to my neighbor's door.
My front door is made of panel glass so can't go watch them from there lol.
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No guns here, so tough one. I'd probably sneak to a window that gives me a clear view of front and anyone walking away from the door, with a machete in hand. The said position also allow me to sneak on on anyone bust in from behind.
You know that makes wonder, if someone actually bust in, would I be lop their head off with one swing from my machete?
Sadly I don't have such a window. :(
I have peep holes installed in my front doors.
Mine are frosted glass so they would have seen me looking.
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For me...Mossberg 590 and i'm not answering the door. Sorry but living in Houston you gotta look out for yourself. Course i'd call the law incase someone needed help. You opening the door can lead to a world of hurt.
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I have two very large dogs and many weapons so I don't mind answering the door at pretty well any time. I would suggest that you look into a small camera to monitor the door from a safe spot in the house. There are many wireless camera systems that can be monitored from your laptop.
Def
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I have two very large dogs and many weapons so I don't mind answering the door at pretty well any time. I would suggest that you look into a small camera to monitor the door from a safe spot in the house. There are many wireless camera systems that can be monitored from your laptop.
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That is certainly something I have considered today. Also a motion sensored light for the back garden.
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I was going to suggest a plaster statue of Mike...dressed as a garden Gnome...
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What, so I could hear them laughing before they got to my front door? :D
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What, so I could hear them laughing before they got to my front door? :D
Exactly! :tu: :D
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Installing a small camera helps in two ways;
1. you can see who's out there.
and
2. you get to use a multitool to install it!
Another question...were these deliberate human knocks, or could it be a knocking of an animal outside the door? You said it only lasted about 5 minutes so it wasn't as if the wind was knocking something against the door, that would have lasted longer, but you also didn't see anyone walking away.
You should also ask a neighbor if they heard anything at their place. Police alerting people of something serious at that time would have a cruiser outside with flashing lights..
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No doubt at all that it was a person. These were deliberate, slow, evenly paced knocks, done, and then after no response was given, done again.
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I'd have stuck my head out the window and asked them what the chuff they were doing knocking on my door at half two in the morning.
I suspect I would have received a response along the lines of "ehh... is this Pete's house" (or the like) said in pissed out my brains drawl. People casing a house are not likely to knock, those who've had a skin-full however :)
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I think i'd have shouted out, something like "WHO THE F**K IS THAT AT THE TIME OF NIGHT ?", while banging stuff and making a lots of noise, make yourself sound big and very VERY angry. I doubt they would hang around :D
I wouldn't keep quiet though, just in case they think no one is home and start trying to break in.
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I would of went to the door with my good old remington 870 riot gun with 00 buckshot.
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Many moons ago, in my first failed attempt at Uni, I shared a cheap house near the uni & my house mate had gone out too the library. I heard a very large banging at the back door, saw through the frosted glass some one trying to jemmy open the door.I shouted like a mad man at him & he did a runner. One more go & he would of had the door open. Not sure what would of happened , him with a crow bar & me adrenalined up :think: :think:.
Happened in the middle of the afternoon :o :o.
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I recently read of a non-lethal option that makes some sense to me...
A small Fire extinguisher...a face full of fire extinguishing chemicals would make it had to see and breathe and you have an impact weapon in hand should the need arise.
We use them on dogs when forcing entry into a house. Works like a charm.
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I'd knock back. :D
I don't know what that'd accomplish, but it'd surely confuse the heck out of 'em!
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peep hole in the door or a camera/viewing system if you can afford it, a good outside light to switch on
and attract attention and "light-up" the intruder (something high or securely mounted).
maybe a good chain on the door or slide-bar to open it without opening it so you can ask what they
want but still not open your door completely. your blades/bat/spray/whatever at the ready. your wife with the phone
in safer place.
with that I would ask "Who is it?" and go from there. you don't let in strangers for any reason but you tell them you
will or have called the police to come and help or take care of it.
the problem now is your worrying if they will be back and who was it and why? you didn't do wrong Ben but
knowing what it was all about would make you and your family feel better.
now you know what you have to do for any future "knocks" you need visibility and a little more security.
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My wife would go nuts if I had a zombie chopper laying 'round, but I do have a 3 D-cell Maglite on the top of a shelf right next to my
front door, just in case... ;)
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I'd would of grabbed my kukri (but concealed it) woke the missus up and give her a mobile, then seen wtf it was, probably by sticking my head out the window and preparing to unleash a full salvo of colourful language >:(
But then I am slightly more aggressive than most people :-\
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You can also try to find some inexpensive strobe lights to put around your doorway. If someone is there you can always flip them on- the effect can often be very disorienting on someone, which means that there's a better chance of them still being there when the police show up. Either that, or if they were looking for an easy mark they will likely look elsewhere in the future.
Lastly, I know a dog isn't a feasible solution for you, but there are a number of sound/motion activated speaker systems that do a very good job of mimicking a barking, alert dog. That alone is a significant deterrent to bad guys, as is a "BEWARE OF DOG" sign in the window. Put the strobe and the speakers together and you will likely never see that guy in your neighborhood again, let alone your yard! :D
Def
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I'm curious as this in fact happened to me last night and after telling people about it, many people have had different ideas about what they would have done. So, what would you do given that scenario?
1. Grab up big bore revolver and flashlight.
2. Tuck revolver into waistband in back, so it won't be visible to the person outside when the door is opened.
3. Open the inner door, leaving the outer door closed and locked.
4. Ask the a**hole outside why he's knocking so late at night.
I had to do exactly this a year or so back at about 3 AM.
Turned out to be a drunk who was looking for a woman that lived a couple of houses further down the block. Never occured to the guy there was a possible issue with pounding on someone's door at 3 AM.
I'd rather carry a revolver to the door than a 12 guage, because keeping the firearm out of sight gives you a chance to defuse the situation.
If everything goes well, then your visitor need not even be aware that you were armed.
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Just to be clear, the knocking was slow, and "calm" if that makes any sense. It wasn't frantic-like like you would expect from a person in need.
Creepy, I see.
Option 1) It could have been a burglar (is that the right word? I hope so...) checking if you were home. In that case, a strong "Who the hell is it???" would have been enough. The fact that it went on for five minutes makes me think this is the most likely explanation. They probably wanted to be really sure before breaking in, just to avoid being cut to pieces by a screaming mad guy waving a kuhkri. :)
Option 2) Somebody who maybe saw the lights of your car still on (or maybe smoke apparently coming out of your house) and just wanted to let you know. Just to be sure, I'd have opened the door, yeah, but with a baseball bat in one hand and a 200 lumens flashlight in the other.
Option 3) Cops, maybe looking around for something or somebody in your neighborhood, who wanted to ask you a few questions.
Option 4) A psychosatanicserialkiller... Well, they don't knock at the door, they usually knock it down and start waving their chainsaw. :D
A.
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Anyone legitimately knocking on a door at 3am really should expect to be confronted with a weapon when/if the door is opened. I know if I had car trouble or something and needed to stop at someone's house at that time of the morning, I'd be perfectly okay with them answering the door with a firearm or a baseball bat.
I don;t know how popular baseball is on your side of the pond, but there are lots of kid sized bats available these days that make very handy weapons, and with a house full of kids, it shouldn't seem out of place.
Def
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I would've opened the door with this bar in place allows me a good view with safety to boot :D
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/titan1833/53400400.jpg)
oh and you can just see my knuchuks in the top left corner,should a breach occur >:D
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I think i'd have shouted out, something like "WHO THE F**K IS THAT AT THE TIME OF NIGHT ?", while banging stuff and making a lots of noise, make yourself sound big and very VERY angry. I doubt they would hang around :D
I wouldn't keep quiet though, just in case they think no one is home and start trying to break in.
Then you would have had 2 very awake and scared children to deal with as well.
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peep hole in the door or a camera/viewing system if you can afford it, a good outside light to switch on
and attract attention and "light-up" the intruder (something high or securely mounted).
maybe a good chain on the door or slide-bar to open it without opening it so you can ask what they
want but still not open your door completely. your blades/bat/spray/whatever at the ready. your wife with the phone
in safer place.
with that I would ask "Who is it?" and go from there. you don't let in strangers for any reason but you tell them you
will or have called the police to come and help or take care of it.
the problem now is your worrying if they will be back and who was it and why? you didn't do wrong Ben but
knowing what it was all about would make you and your family feel better.
now you know what you have to do for any future "knocks" you need visibility and a little more security.
I'm not worried at all about the person coming back.
I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
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Just to be clear, the knocking was slow, and "calm" if that makes any sense. It wasn't frantic-like like you would expect from a person in need.
Creepy, I see.
Option 1) It could have been a burglar (is that the right word? I hope so...) checking if you were home. In that case, a strong "Who the hell is it???" would have been enough. The fact that it went on for five minutes makes me think this is the most likely explanation. They probably wanted to be really sure before breaking in, just to avoid being cut to pieces by a screaming mad guy waving a kuhkri. :)
Option 2) Somebody who maybe saw the lights of your car still on (or maybe smoke apparently coming out of your house) and just wanted to let you know. Just to be sure, I'd have opened the door, yeah, but with a baseball bat in one hand and a 200 lumens flashlight in the other.
Option 3) Cops, maybe looking around for something or somebody in your neighborhood, who wanted to ask you a few questions.
Option 4) A psychosatanicserialkiller... Well, they don't knock at the door, they usually knock it down and start waving their chainsaw. :D
A.
Option 2 and 3 could have been cases, but if it was something as serious as smoke for example, you would knock a bit frantically and would even shout out. Also if it was a copper that needed to talk to me, they would have probably called through the letterbox as well rather than knocking on and off for over 5 mins.
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I'm not worried at all about the person coming back.
I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
as long as you didn't put the Def dress on and open the door and say; "hey sailor"
while he was laughing hysterically Sue clonked him with the end of the kuhkri!
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probably someone drunk dialing your front door
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I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
You jumped under the bed and cried like a girl..? (http://i35.tinypic.com/orjar5.jpg)
What...? :pok: :D
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I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
You jumped under the bed and cried like a girl..? (http://i35.tinypic.com/orjar5.jpg)
What...? :pok: :D
Sounds about right. :rofl:
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I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
You jumped under the bed and cried like a girl..? (http://i35.tinypic.com/orjar5.jpg)
What...? :pok: :D
Sounds about right. :rofl:
Answered the door and told your "mother in law" to sod off..? >:D
???
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I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
You jumped under the bed and cried like a girl..? (http://i35.tinypic.com/orjar5.jpg)
What...? :pok: :D
I'm guessing Sue handled it on account of her having the weight advantage over everyone else :D
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One glimpse of Sue's belly would send anyone running!! :D
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One glimpse of Sue's belly would send anyone running!! :D
:D :D
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peep hole in the door or a camera/viewing system if you can afford it, a good outside light to switch on
and attract attention and "light-up" the intruder (something high or securely mounted).
maybe a good chain on the door or slide-bar to open it without opening it so you can ask what they
want but still not open your door completely. your blades/bat/spray/whatever at the ready. your wife with the phone
in safer place.
with that I would ask "Who is it?" and go from there. you don't let in strangers for any reason but you tell them you
will or have called the police to come and help or take care of it.
the problem now is your worrying if they will be back and who was it and why? you didn't do wrong Ben but
knowing what it was all about would make you and your family feel better.
now you know what you have to do for any future "knocks" you need visibility and a little more security.
I'm not worried at all about the person coming back.
I find it interesting that many people here have said I did the right thing when I haven't exactly said what I did. :D
You are alive and not in jail, so obviously whatever you did was the right thing. After all, no jury would convict a pregnant woman while her knife collecting husband was cowering in the closet! :P
Def
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I'm glad that nothing has came out of it. Hopefully it was just a drunk confused guy. You might just be aware for the next few days.
As for me, I would have armed myself with the appropriate weapon, my dog and asked through the door if I can help them. From my bedroom window I can see the street so if the car they were in was broke down I could see it. If that's the case I might open the door, all the while being prepared to blast them. After that I would do whatever the situation dictates all the while keeping myself at a tactical advantage.
Either that or just open up the door long enough to pop a pepper spray grenade out there and scream "RUN LIKE HELL YOU SUMBITCHES!!!!" :D :D :D
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:rofl:
Cool! Where do you get your grenades? :D
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Geeze, I don't know Ben,
Maybe it was the stork knocking...
Coulda saved an induction... :think:
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I wasn't cowering in the closet actually >:(
...I was under the bed. :D
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I wasn't cowering in the closet actually >:(
...I was under the bed. :D
I knew it... :waving:
What did I win...?? :D :D
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Well since you brought it up, Ben, what did you do the other night?
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:rofl:
Cool! Where do you get your grenades? :D
I haven't bought any yet but when finances allow I'll be getting a few. You know, just to have around. :D :D
http://www.redhotpepperspray.com/fox-labs-6-oz-oc-lock-on-grenade.html
http://www.redhotpepperspray.com/fox-labs-2-oz-oc-lock-on-grenade.html
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Well since you brought it up, Ben, what did you do the other night?
Well I knew it wouldn't be anyone I knew or wanted to see (I am a Billy no mates) so I spied out the window hoping to see what muppet it was. I didn't open my window or call out as I 1, didn't want to wake the kids and 2, didn't want them to hear the window and then leg it before I got a good look. When the knocking stopped, which seemed to go on for ages BTW, I then quickly opened the window and stuck my head out only to see they had gone, and gone either across my front garden and then out of sight, or into my back garden. My concern then was that they could break in, so I pocketed my Ti-Lite (one of my "scary" looking knives), grabbed my Elektrolumens Blaster and stuck my kukri on the side. I then went downstairs with this big old club of a torch (Terry would be so proud :D) and then started to have a good look around the house to make sure all was clear. No one was to be seen so I was happy we were all safe.
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At least by grabbing my former knives they were at least sharp :D
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Somehow, I was hoping for random shotgun blasts, with banshee like shrieking... :-\
Seems it was effective, just a little disappointing. :(
:D
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I could add in a tussle with a zombie if that would make you happy? :D
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Yes! Please do. :2tu:
Zombies are best at night, with dodgey flashlights...(just go with weak batteries, that'll be sufficient)
:D
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I could add in a tussle with a zombie if that would make you happy? :D
No, just stick to the truth mate, your combat prowess speaks for itself :tu: :D
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Like I said in the beginning, it was amazing how many people claimed they would have done something different. That's why I was interested. I think the main consensus was that I wasn't "manly" enough. Not that I give a toss. :D
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Like I said in the beginning, it was amazing how many people claimed they would have done something different. That's why I was interested. I think the main consensus was that I wasn't "manly" enough. Not that I give a toss. :D
Your's was the more sensible approach, I just get insanely angry and want answers in that situation :D
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Good thing it wasn't a polar bear at the door, else you would have given him what for!
Def
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Good thing it wasn't a polar bear at the door, else you would have given him what for!
Def
I bet it was a "Ninja Polar Bear"... :ahhh
:D
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Like I said in the beginning, it was amazing how many people claimed they would have done something different. That's why I was interested. I think the main consensus was that I wasn't "manly" enough. Not that I give a toss. :D
To be fair - in post #5 you said that you didn't see them and that they had obviously walked off. That's where I got the impression you hadn't jumped out of the window brandishing a Kukri, inviting those mofos to bring it on ;)
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But that was before the zombies came...
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Did you find Mike in your yard the next morning...naked and smeared with marmite?
...a Vodka bottle and empty Red Bull cans scattered everywhere :ahhh
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I wish!! :drool:
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I wish!! :drool:
Eew! :rofl:
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For late night visitors, I have two things that are fun to do. I always grab a gun "just in case" but most of the time it's just kids having fun.
My front porch is actually part of the basement. The cement cap on the porch sits over a little cut out in the wall of the basement. When someone won't get off the porch, I like to go down there and bang on the bottom of the cap. People normally freak out when the concrete floor starts banging.
My other approach is to slip out the back door and sneak around to the front. If it's just kids I'll take a running start from the side yard and rush them :D
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But that was before the zombies came...
Yea! :mn:
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:rofl:
Cool! Where do you get your grenades? :D
I haven't bought any yet but when finances allow I'll be getting a few. You know, just to have around. :D :D
http://www.redhotpepperspray.com/fox-labs-6-oz-oc-lock-on-grenade.html
http://www.redhotpepperspray.com/fox-labs-2-oz-oc-lock-on-grenade.html
Love this blurb describing those grenades:
"Great for moving someone out of a vehicle or motel room."
Really? Who would ever have guessed that? ;>
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I think the main consensus was that I wasn't "manly" enough. Not that I give a toss.
It wasn't "manly" enough? You did what you thought the situation dictated. Nothing happened and your family is safe. If someone thinks that you're not "manly" because of how you handled the situation they need to quit masturbating to Steven Seagall movies and get a real life.
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When I was a teenager, that situation used to happen to us all the time.
We lived on a somewhat sparsely populated country road with a low but steady amount of traffic. People would knock on our doors at all hours of the night - anywhere between 11pm - 5am.
Usually the people were either lost or wanted to use our phone for some reason. Sometimes they wanted to borrow gas or their car had broken down. Often they were also drunk and/or extremely obnoxious.
We would usually just talk to them through the unopened door and tell the people to get lost or give them directions to the nearest gas station. Many would argue, some would get angry, almost all were rude, etc. It was incredibly disruptive and frequent.
Eventually, we just gave up talking to them at all, and just started to ignore them after a certain hour. We just made sure that they left our property and were not rummaging through our garage (which many did).
We didn't take any specific safety precautions, though we couldn't see who they were. We did have 3 German Shepherds though (we used to breed them), and their bark was pretty intimidating. ;)
Our neighbours never had the same problem. People would pick our house because we were fairly close to the road, while every one else had longer driveways.
I just saw this thread and honestly, none of us ever even thought of any threat or danger during those occurrences. I definitely would now though. Strange how things change...
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Did you find Mike in your yard the next morning...naked and smeared with marmite?
...a Vodka bottle and empty Red Bull cans scattered everywhere :ahhh
That was the weekend before last :)
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Vodka and Red Bull??? Ick!
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Me like vodka and Redbull :drool:
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I'm old school, vodka and lime :) Or in my youth double vodka, lime and guiness :D
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Well, maybe the Red Bull would make the vodka taste better. Not much of a drinker anyway, but always hated vodka. Tequilla is a different story but I don't think that would go well with Red Bull either. Did I just hijack this thread? Ooops...I think I did. Sorry, back to the subject now. :D
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It doesn't sound like a fun experience at all mate. I have a peephole and outside light so seeing them wouldn’t be an issue. I have a few stout walking poles in the house that I would pick up in preference to a knife; if it truly came down to it I can do just as much harm with one, keeps the other guy a bit further off and feels much less premeditated.
I'd certainly use the security chain before opening the door, even if I felt there was little threat.
I also rather like Spork’s idea of the fire extinguisher; I have a little powder one in the kitchen that would certainly be a deterrent if sprayed in someone’s face.
Above all though, there is no point in taking risks when you have a family to think of.
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grabbed my Elektrolumens Blaster and stuck my kukri on the side. I then went downstairs with this big old club of a torch...
:tu:
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grabbed my Elektrolumens Blaster and stuck my kukri on the side. I then went downstairs with this big old club of a torch...
:tu:
I reckon I could do some serious damage with that bad boy. :D
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grabbed my Elektrolumens Blaster and stuck my kukri on the side. I then went downstairs with this big old club of a torch...
:tu:
I reckon I could do some serious damage with that bad boy. :D
You could put an eye out with it! ... either one!