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Title: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Alan K. on February 27, 2016, 04:36:11 AM
One of my responsibilities at the Florida Renaissance Festival is to maintain and rent mobility scooters for our guests with physical limitations.  I needed to plug in a scooter for charging this morning, but the tab on the charging port cover was gone.  It must have broken off somewhere.  It is rubber and probably got brittle over time.  It is nearly impossible to open the cover without the tab because the cover fits flush to keep dust and moisture out.  I had to pry the cover open with the small knife blade on the Huntsman, then I used the awl/reamer to bore a hole through the cover, and finally I tied a loop of jute twine with a big knot on the end and pulled the loop through the cover with the hook.  Now I can easily open the cover to the charging port again.  When I have a chance I will seal the hole with a dab of silicone, but at least for now I can open the port to keep the scooter fully charged.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on February 27, 2016, 08:39:03 AM
Hook badge!  :D
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: FeebleOldMan on February 27, 2016, 09:04:12 AM
That's clever!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: styx on February 27, 2016, 10:26:56 AM
see it ain't useless
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: magentus on February 27, 2016, 10:58:14 AM
Nice one Alan! Another one Hooked!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Aloha on February 27, 2016, 03:23:25 PM
 :tu: the hook is one of those tools that eventually serves a purpose.  Nice thinking out the box on this one. 
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: sLaughterMed on February 27, 2016, 05:11:37 PM
Man, I wished I lived closer to a Ren Fest. The nearest major one is about 2 hours away :(
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: firiki on February 27, 2016, 08:32:52 PM
Finding uses for it is where the hook really shines :D :tu:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: zoidberg on February 27, 2016, 09:17:56 PM
Good job sir.   :tu:   :tu:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Mattexian on February 27, 2016, 11:43:39 PM
Man, I wished I lived closer to a Ren Fest. The nearest major one is about 2 hours away :(
That doesn't stop me! (Usually. This year, medical problems cancelled it.)  Going to the Texas Ren Fest is my annual vacation from reality.

My wife uses that same brand of mobility scooter, and so far the charging port hasn't given us any trouble.  Did have a cracked fuse under the battery that gave us fits,  til we dropped by the local repair shop and they diagnosed the problem.

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Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: sLaughterMed on February 28, 2016, 12:07:06 AM
Man, I wished I lived closer to a Ren Fest. The nearest major one is about 2 hours away :(
That doesn't stop me! (Usually. This year, medical problems cancelled it.)  Going to the Texas Ren Fest is my annual vacation from reality.

My wife uses that same brand of mobility scooter, and so far the charging port hasn't given us any trouble.  Did have a cracked fuse under the battery that gave us fits,  til we dropped by the local repair shop and they diagnosed the problem.

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I went to Texas Ren Fest last year! It was my first experience at one, and myself and the kiddos had a great time.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Alan K. on February 28, 2016, 02:57:43 AM
Thanks for the accolades. I enjoy doing the festival and I'm glad some of you have had the chance to visit festivals where you are.  This is our 3rd weekend and we have 4 more to go.  We were open yesterday just for schools which is why I was there on a Friday.  There is an independent film that was made at The Florida Renaissance Festival in 2014 that gives a fascinating look behind the scenes.  I'm in it for about 2 seconds. :D
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: kari_sak on February 28, 2016, 03:02:18 AM
People have found uses for a hook so many times, that the hook is now most usefull tool on a SAK.
 :rofl:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jerseydevil on February 28, 2016, 03:13:03 AM
I actually used the hook on my Compact today, pulling cotton from a bottle of ibuprofen. It's a tool you forget about until the perfect opportunity shows up.....
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on September 23, 2016, 02:06:25 AM
Hook badge!  :D

  :salute:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on September 23, 2016, 02:07:48 AM
People have found uses for a hook so many times, that the hook is now most usefull tool on a SAK.
 :rofl:
A guy on the Tube- Nikos I think has about 5 uses for each blade!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Barry Rowland on September 23, 2016, 03:13:08 AM
 :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: JamesJ on September 23, 2016, 03:33:37 AM
Plus that rustic twine makes the mobility cart blend in a little more in the Ren setting.

Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: parman53 on September 23, 2016, 01:33:05 PM
I'll be damned, the hook is good for something!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ThePeacent on September 23, 2016, 08:54:50 PM
Good indeed

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04788_zpss76lunzf.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04782_zpsqkxqnejf.jpg)

hands will thank it after three hours of carry...

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04789_zpsuyjnagun.jpg)
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: strmliner on September 23, 2016, 11:47:33 PM
People have found uses for a hook so many times, that the hook is now most usefull tool on a SAK.
 :rofl:

 :rofl:    :ahhh   :rofl:    :ahhh    :rofl:   
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: SteelRaven on September 24, 2016, 12:16:02 AM
CRAWDAD POT CARRYING HOOK!

Thaught this up after watching Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe on Discovery Channel!!

The wire on those underwater traps is hard on the hands when they are wet and soft.

AAAAAAAAAYYYYEEEE!!!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on October 24, 2016, 04:00:00 AM
CRAWDAD POT CARRYING HOOK!

Thaught this up after watching Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe on Discovery Channel!!
The wire on those underwater traps is hard on the hands when they are wet and soft.

AAAAAAAAAYYYYEEEE!!!

TIRE LITTLE STONE REMOVER !
...to get the little stones stuck in the tire treads...
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: PTRSAK on October 24, 2016, 05:07:20 AM
I'm just waiting to see the new MacGyver use it to zip line away from the baddies.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: kaput on October 24, 2016, 05:28:47 AM
CRAWDAD POT CARRYING HOOK!

Thaught this up after watching Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe on Discovery Channel!!
The wire on those underwater traps is hard on the hands when they are wet and soft.

AAAAAAAAAYYYYEEEE!!!

TIRE LITTLE STONE REMOVER !
...to get the little stones stuck in the tire treads...
Also what the awls for. Getting rocks out of your shoe treads!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 24, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
What some do not know about is the second position for the hook past 90 degrees. I used this feature a while ago on a Compact to make a stand for my iPod Touch which (unlike my phone) doesn't have a kickstand in its case. Propped it up so I could watch Snow White and the Huntsman, which I thought from the title would be about Snow White and her Swiss Army Knife. Turns out the Huntsman was no SAK, he was some dude with an ax that had gone (at least partially, if not completely) off the rails.

John
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: pfrsantos on October 24, 2016, 01:08:08 PM
Man, I wished I lived closer to a Ren Fest. The nearest major one is about 2 hours away :(

Major One!

 :salute:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: pfrsantos on October 24, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Good indeed

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04788_zpss76lunzf.jpg)

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04782_zpsqkxqnejf.jpg)

hands will thank it after three hours of carry...

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/CAM04789_zpsuyjnagun.jpg)

That's also one of the main uses for me.

 :cheers: :tu:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: magentus on October 24, 2016, 01:27:04 PM
What some do not know about is the second position for the hook past 90 degrees. I used this feature a while ago on a Compact to make a stand for my iPod Touch which (unlike my phone) doesn't have a kickstand in its case. Propped it up so I could watch Snow White and the Huntsman, which I thought from the title would be about Snow White and her Swiss Army Knife. Turns out the Huntsman was no SAK, he was some dude with an ax that had gone (at least partially, if not completely) off the rails.

John
Nice stand! You should get your money back on that film. In the same vein, that's the reason I walked out of 'The Woodsman'.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on October 25, 2016, 01:52:31 AM
I'm just waiting to see the new MacGyver use it to zip line away from the baddies.
[/qurote]

I can see that- very funny.....
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Alan K. on October 25, 2016, 04:05:13 AM
I'm just waiting to see the new MacGyver use it to zip line away from the baddies.

Wait.  It will happen.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 25, 2016, 07:52:48 AM

Medical Bill strongly discourages grabbing a hot oven rack with bare hands! Another great use for the hook when the SAK you have in your EDC has one and you don't want to don oven mits just to check on something that's broiling or baking . . . or to stir or baste it periodically . . . as they're cumbersome to handle implements while wearing them. Use the hook to pull the rack out. You don't want it to hook completely around the wire rack (most rack front rods are too thick) or you'll have to fiddle with it to get it unhooked. Just grab it enough with the end of the hook to pull on it. If going over the top has too much friction or drag, use the hook from underneath the rack front and pull. Use the bottle opener (or combo opener) to push it back in (same thing applies, go from underneath if there's too much friction between oven and rack).

I've used this successfully numerous times when baking in the lower oven. Recreated how I do this using the upper one (easier to photograph ;) ).

John
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 25, 2016, 08:59:10 AM

Medical Bill strongly discourages grabbing a hot oven rack with bare hands! Another great use for the hook when the SAK you have in your EDC has one and you don't want to don oven mits just to check on something that's broiling or baking . . . or to stir or baste it periodically . . . as they're cumbersome to handle implements while wearing them. Use the hook to pull the rack out. You don't want it to hook completely around the wire rack (most rack front rods are too thick) or you'll have to fiddle with it to get it unhooked. Just grab it enough with the end of the hook to pull on it. Use the bottle opener (or combo opener) to push it back in.

I've used this successfully numerous times when baking in the lower oven. Recreated how I do this using the upper one (easier to photograph ;) ).

John


 :salute: :salute: :salute:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 25, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
For those that have a Plus model with the hook, it can be used to hold the pen.
Much easier than trying to hold the pen by itself! Photobucket is completely and utterly FUBAR today, so I'm uploading the photos as attachments.

John
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 25, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
For those that have a Plus model with the hook, it can be used to hold the pen.
  • Open the hook
  • Place pen between the liners; you may have to turn it for it to fit
  • Close hook on pen to secure it
  • Start writing using body of SAK
Much easier than trying to hold the pen by itself! Photobucket is completely and utterly FUBAR today, so I'm uploading the photos as attachments.

John

That's actually been the thing I've most used the hook for, so find the hook considerably less useful on SAKs that don't have Plus scales...
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: firiki on October 26, 2016, 09:52:06 AM
Apparently, another function the hook serves is generating a lot of discussion about it's usefulness or lack thereof  :P
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Mechanickal on October 26, 2016, 12:51:38 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 26, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: irona on October 26, 2016, 03:20:38 PM
When I was a kid (like 8 years old), I always saw the hook on my huntsman as a potential emergency grappling hook


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Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: shibafu on October 26, 2016, 04:51:55 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?

They don't get the file hook... as far as I know the only models with the file hook are Compact, DofE and the supergiant SwissChamps - XXLT and XAVT.  Even the SwissChamp XLT doesn't have it!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Mechanickal on October 26, 2016, 05:20:00 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?

They don't get the file hook... as far as I know the only models with the file hook are Compact, DofE and the supergiant SwissChamps - XXLT and XAVT.  Even the SwissChamp XLT doesn't have it!
Which I don't understand... :(
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: shadowrider on October 26, 2016, 05:24:31 PM
The Swissbianco Yeomen had them also.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 26, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?

The hook is paired with the scissors. The 2016 catalog shows the following Plus model options and models with Plus scales. All but one have scissors layer with the hook:
The only difference in the 2015 catalog is the discontinued Expedition, a Traveler with additional layers.

John
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 26, 2016, 05:54:03 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?

The hook is paired with the scissors. The 2016 catalog shows the following Plus model options and models with Plus scales. All but one have scissors layer with the hook:
  • Explorer Plus
  • Compact
  • Traveler
  • Huntsman Lite
  • Traveler Lite
  • Cybertool Lite
  • Cybertool 29 - [size=78%]pen with no scissors or hook[/size]
  • Cybertool 34
  • Swisschamp
  • Swisschamp XLT
  • Swisschamp XAVT - what doesn't it have? (Didn't see a kitchen sink though.)
The only difference in the 2015 catalog is the discontinued Expedition, a Traveler with additional layers.

John

Do all of these have the nail file on the hook, though? Of the above I've only owned the Compacy (nail file) and CT 29 (no hook). The normal Explorer doesn't have the nail file, does the "Plus" model?
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: shibafu on October 26, 2016, 06:42:17 PM
Do all of these have the nail file on the hook, though? Of the above I've only owned the Compacy (nail file) and CT 29 (no hook). The normal Explorer doesn't have the nail file, does the "Plus" model?

It doesn't.  Some confusion about whether you were asking about the file-hook or regular hook I think :)

I forgot about the electronic models - Traveler, Traveler Lite and Expedition Lite.  I think they may have the file hook too, though I don't have any of those to check.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 26, 2016, 06:47:26 PM
If they'd just put a file area on the back of EVERY hook, it would be used way much more... IMO anyway...


Indeed - do all models sold by default with Plus scales get the hook?

The hook is paired with the scissors. The 2016 catalog shows the following Plus model options and models with Plus scales. All but one have scissors layer with the hook:
  • Explorer Plus
  • Compact
  • Traveler
  • Huntsman Lite
  • Traveler Lite
  • Cybertool Lite
  • Cybertool 29 - [size=78%]pen with no scissors or hook[/size]
  • Cybertool 34
  • Swisschamp
  • Swisschamp XLT
  • Swisschamp XAVT - what doesn't it have? (Didn't see a kitchen sink though.)
The only difference in the 2015 catalog is the discontinued Expedition, a Traveler with additional layers.

John

Do all of these have the nail file on the hook, though? Of the above I've only owned the Compact (nail file) and CT 29 (no hook). The normal Explorer doesn't have the nail file, does the "Plus" model?

The only hook with textured file I've encountered is on the Compact. In addition to the older Can Key Super & Deluxe Tinker without the hook, I've got a newer Super Tinker, newer Deluxe Tinker, Explorer Plus, 2014 Woodsman, Cybertool 34, Craftsman and Champion Plus. They all have smooth hooks. Don't know about any of the Swisschamp. Like many others I wish they'd put the Compact style hook on every model that has one.

John
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Boonies on October 27, 2016, 02:28:26 AM
The Traveler Lite has the nail file hook.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on October 27, 2016, 03:54:03 AM
The Traveler Lite has the nail file hook.

My Huntsman with the Plus scales has no file on the back of the u.p.h. But I swaped back to regular cel scales and got an equally useless pin hole - also a u.p.h.   :whistle:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: shadowrider on October 27, 2016, 04:45:49 AM
I meant that my Swissbianco Yeoman has the nail file on the hook.
Which I wish it didn't, as manicure features make a SAK look kind of "girly" in my head.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 27, 2016, 08:33:30 AM
I meant that my Swissbianco Yeoman has the nail file on the hook.
Which I wish it didn't, as manicure features make a SAK look kind of "girly" in my head.


 :rofl:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Oxford_Guy on October 27, 2016, 09:08:22 AM
The Traveler Lite has the nail file hook.


AFAIK the UK's Duke of Edinburgh model also has the nail file hook, as it's basically a Compact, but with a rounded main blade and Phillips driver in place of the Corkscrew. See: http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=DofE+Pocket+Tool
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: FA Tre on October 27, 2016, 08:20:19 PM
Good for pulling out some of those brass staples on larger heavy duty boxes too.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: jalind on October 27, 2016, 08:48:38 PM
Good for pulling out some of those brass staples on larger heavy duty boxes too.

 :like:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: El Corkscrew on June 18, 2017, 06:18:41 AM
can't say I agree with the wording of the subject line but I'm glad someone found some value in el Hook.   :salute:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: shadowrider on June 19, 2017, 12:43:47 AM
Chuck Norris can kill people with the multipurpose hook.
 :mn:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: cody6268 on June 19, 2017, 02:25:04 AM
Working on farm equipment, pulling pins and accessing difficult to get at latches holding body panels (you've basically got to remove all the panels surrounding the hood to get to the dipstick on the Yanmar engine Deere compact tractors) are something hard to do without the hook, as pliers can damage those components. I also carry square bales with it, most weighing in at 30 lbs.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: WolfyW on June 19, 2017, 02:55:52 AM
For those that have a Plus model with the hook, it can be used to hold the pen.
  • Open the hook
  • Place pen between the liners; you may have to turn it for it to fit
  • Close hook on pen to secure it
  • Start writing using body of SAK
Much easier than trying to hold the pen by itself! Photobucket is completely and utterly FUBAR today, so I'm uploading the photos as attachments.

John

Dang! Thanks for the pics. Showed that to my wife. She keeps a Compact in her purse, but even with her small hands the pen by itself is awkward. With my huge mitts....Forget it! Until now.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on October 29, 2017, 03:20:29 AM
I just used the UPHook to get stones stuck in my tire treds out, safe and easy....
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: strmliner on October 29, 2017, 08:54:58 PM
Chuck Norris can kill people with the multipurpose hook.
 :mn:

Actually, I heard it was his breath.   :whistle:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ironraven on October 29, 2017, 09:36:39 PM
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71139.new.html#new

Remember, to a caveman a pencil is only tinder, for he knows not it's value.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Don Pablo on October 31, 2017, 10:14:21 AM
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,71139.new.html#new

Remember, to a caveman a pencil is only tinder, for he knows not it's value.
I like that!  8)
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: EMZ on November 09, 2017, 03:45:03 PM
Da Hook comes in very handy when taking pictures outside.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 09, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
 :like: :D
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on November 09, 2017, 05:25:18 PM
Da Hook comes in very handy when taking pictures outside.
Cute....  :whistle:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on January 14, 2018, 03:15:39 AM
Seriously,  you can get stones out of your car tires....
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 14, 2018, 05:19:26 AM
So, at work, if there's a guy in the office that I have to find work to give him, he is superfluous and UN-needed and sent home.

That would be the hook. Taking rocks from my tire tread is accomplished with the awl, the cap lifter screw driver, the back spring Phillips...

Brass staples are easily taken out of cardboard boxes with the plyers of my PS4. If you want to keep it SAK related, the plyers of my Deluxe Tinker. Or pried out with one of the screw drivers.

No ill will here fellas, just saying you would be hard pressed to find a function for the hook that can't be done with another tool or component of the same knife.

What a waste of metal. Just think, - all those hooks could have been used for Pioneer X scissors or Camper saws...
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Douglas on January 14, 2018, 06:18:04 AM
So, at work, if there's a guy in the office that I have to find work to give him, he is superfluous and UN-needed and sent home.

That would be the hook. Taking rocks from my tire tread is accomplished with the awl, the cap lifter screw driver, the back spring Phillips...

Brass staples are easily taken out of cardboard boxes with the plyers of my PS4. If you want to keep it SAK related, the plyers of my Deluxe Tinker. Or pried out with one of the screw drivers.

No ill will here fellas, just saying you would be hard pressed to find a function for the hook that can't be done with another tool or component of the same knife.

What a waste of metal. Just think, - all those hooks could have been used for Pioneer X scissors or Camper saws...
Okay Thundah,
Time to burst the bubble,
Find me another tool on a SAK that can efficeintly pull that elusive wire from a tied and bundled section of control wiring for testing without potentially dammaging  it.  There are real uses for the hook, just maybe not in everyones daily use list.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 14, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
So, at work, if there's a guy in the office that I have to find work to give him, he is superfluous and UN-needed and sent home.

That would be the hook. Taking rocks from my tire tread is accomplished with the awl, the cap lifter screw driver, the back spring Phillips...

Brass staples are easily taken out of cardboard boxes with the plyers of my PS4. If you want to keep it SAK related, the plyers of my Deluxe Tinker. Or pried out with one of the screw drivers.

No ill will here fellas, just saying you would be hard pressed to find a function for the hook that can't be done with another tool or component of the same knife.

What a waste of metal. Just think, - all those hooks could have been used for Pioneer X scissors or Camper saws...
Okay Thundah,
Time to burst the bubble,
Find me another tool on a SAK that can efficeintly pull that elusive wire from a tied and bundled section of control wiring for testing without potentially dammaging  it.  There are real uses for the hook, just maybe not in everyones daily use list.

Hi Douglas,

All in good fun. Bubble intact, I untie and unbundle wires when working and testing them, at least, as much as possible. And rebundle or retie when done. When I'm ready to get serious, a dedicated tool is the order of the day. I'm no electrician. For computers and telephone wire and circuit boards, I use a Menda Spudger with wire hook.

What you are doing in the picture is certainly more easily done with the hook, if you decide not to untie the bundle. But it could be done - carefully - with the backside of the awl, or gingerly with the can opener, or half-stop the cap lifter and use that. Backspring Phillips can worm it's way in there. Depending on the location of the wire, maybe even the Deluxe Tinker plyers.

Yes, pretty easily done with the hook as well, but I'm just saying, to make the hook a permanent addition to every SAK with scissors hardly justifies the cost and material.

Possibly on some sort of electricians version.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 14, 2018, 10:31:19 PM
Additionally, if I am testing wires in the first place, I presume I have my volt-ohm meter or multi-meter with me. One of the probes can help me manipulate wire, unplugged from the meter if need be. Sorry Douglas.

Seriously though. All in good fun do I do this. I don't truly begrudge anyone for using the hook, after all, it's there on the "new" knives. I more begrudge Victorinox for wasting resources on altering EVERY knife with scissors for a tool, the uses of which are somewhat, meh.
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Butch on January 14, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
I love the hook although now retired I rarely use it. My whole reason for carrying a SAK, i.e. Swisschamp, is to have tools that can handle the unexpected. Yes I always had a toolbox in the truck & would go out to get it if the champ was not enough, but the reason for carrying the champ in the 1st place was to save that walk & thus save time, because when you are your own boss time is money. That champ with all it's unnecessary tools made me quite a bit of money over the many years I carried it. So yeah I like the hook & all the other tools on the champ...........just my 2 pennies worth. :climber:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: theonew on January 14, 2018, 11:02:05 PM
I once almost had a use for the hook, which I didn't have on the SAK I was carrying :)

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54903.msg957500.html
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Douglas on January 14, 2018, 11:31:20 PM
Yep Thundah it's definately all in good fun. :tu: :tu:   :rofl:
Love this stuff, and I think if the two key adverbs are observed the bubble is burst.
Efficeintly and without potentially, only the hook meets both those criteria.
I will agree that it may not be a tool that should be on every SAK with scissors but why not.  I have not seen a significant increese in price since it's addition and it just adds more options for the usefullness of the over all tool.
Like I said Love this stuff. :salute:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 15, 2018, 01:01:19 AM
 :cheers: :like:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on January 15, 2018, 03:27:57 AM
Ar mate, there's a guy on the tube who finds all kinds of uses for all rhe sak tools, amazing, annoying music though. ...a Russian dude I believe,  very creative!
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: TonySal on August 25, 2018, 02:58:34 AM
We can learn to love the hook!   :think:
Title: Re: found a use for the useless hook
Post by: ddogu on August 25, 2018, 08:38:38 AM
u... useless you said???  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh  :twak: