Post by: Caranthanus on April 16, 2015, 01:54:21 AM
(http://s11.postimg.org/lf5lfp02b/image.jpg)
close up - blade closed :D
(http://s12.postimg.org/udy058wr1/image.jpg)
blade in closed position, blade removed for better view:
(http://s15.postimg.org/6ycmy9jln/image.jpg)
blade opened and locked:
(http://s2.postimg.org/502h6jell/image.jpg)
pressing down the button pushes to backspring, while blade in locking position:
(http://s1.postimg.org/erag2wfxb/image.jpg)
closing the blade while button is pushed down:
(http://s15.postimg.org/imtnpirnf/image.jpg)
blade unlocked - in half position:
(http://s23.postimg.org/y66cp80aj/image.jpg)
almost done :D
(http://s1.postimg.org/6jvhem6xr/image.jpg)
Closed:
(http://s13.postimg.org/5i78egwlj/image.jpg)
That's it ;)
(http://s24.postimg.org/3xw0rl6lh/image.jpg)
Post by: kosmo on April 16, 2015, 01:55:39 AM
Post by: Caranthanus on April 16, 2015, 02:00:19 AM
These kinds of post are great information. Thanks. :tu::cheers:
Post by: SAK Guy on April 16, 2015, 02:20:18 AM
Post by: Gareth on April 16, 2015, 02:42:53 AM
Post by: derekmac on April 16, 2015, 03:02:11 AM
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Post by: MadPlumbarian on April 16, 2015, 05:31:14 AM
JR
Post by: magentus on April 16, 2015, 09:58:44 AM
That's a nice model too. Are you on your way to making it into something new?
Post by: Etherealicer on April 16, 2015, 10:43:03 AM
Post by: Caranthanus on April 18, 2015, 12:05:32 AM
Post by: Caranthanus on April 18, 2015, 12:11:06 AM
That's a nice model too. Are you on your way to making it into something new?Well, yes and no :o :whistle:
The 2/3 serrated blade would be almost for sure for another Journeydack :facepalm:, but there is, in fact, a work in progress for a new one, kind of almost perfect Wenger, as all you know, Wenger has no hook >:D
(http://s17.postimg.org/g3f43pxn3/image.jpg)
Post by: SAK Guy on April 18, 2015, 01:48:19 AM
Post by: neillcurrie on April 18, 2015, 02:10:06 AM
Post by: ColoSwiss on April 18, 2015, 02:27:37 AM
Post by: Mr. Whippy on April 18, 2015, 03:07:48 AM
I have always wondered how the Wenger lock actually worked. My S557 is one of my favorites. :cheers:
Post by: Caranthanus on April 20, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
Post by: Caranthanus on April 20, 2015, 08:45:32 PM
(http://s1.postimg.org/dkzhjf1fz/image.jpg)
Generalmajor (on top) vs Wenger s557 (below)
(http://s1.postimg.org/wioao5jwv/image.jpg)
Generalmajor (on top) vs "My Troubleshooter" or any Troubleshooter (below)
(http://s8.postimg.org/puxzg882d/image.jpg)
Stand at Ease ... 8)
(http://s30.postimg.org/oakanzdq9/image.jpg)
:salute:
Post by: SAK Guy on April 20, 2015, 09:16:37 PM
The above mentioned Wenger fatty is "on attention" and ready for presentation, so I would like to introduce it. As it is somehow close to "Colonel/Oberst", but for sure of higher rank ;) I decided to name it "Generalmajor" (Major-general) :D
(http://s1.postimg.org/dkzhjf1fz/image.jpg)
Generalmajor (on top) vs Wenger s557 (below)
(http://s1.postimg.org/wioao5jwv/image.jpg)
Generalmajor (on top) vs "My Troubleshooter" or any Troubleshooter (below)
(http://s8.postimg.org/puxzg882d/image.jpg)
Stand at Ease ... 8)
(http://s30.postimg.org/oakanzdq9/image.jpg)
:salute:
Wow, it is the very model of a modern major general....... :D :cheers: :cheers:
Post by: Caranthanus on April 20, 2015, 09:30:15 PM
Wow, it is the very model of a modern major general....... :D :cheers: :cheers:Would totally agree on Wow :D :cheers:
Generalmajor is, in fact, a "swisschamp" in small package, unfortunately with no hook :cry: :D
Btw, everyone has scissors on keychain, right? >:D
Post by: cbl51 on April 23, 2015, 01:38:30 AM
I worry that the lock will be a source of false confidence and an accident waiting to happen. But then, I am mistrustful of blade locks, and just prefer a slip joint and some care when using.
Post by: smiller43147 on April 23, 2015, 02:28:43 AM
Full disclosure, I obtained this sak used, but it doesn't appear abused.
Post by: SAK Guy on April 23, 2015, 02:36:12 AM
Post by: Caranthanus on April 24, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem that the lock is not all that deep and secure?
I worry that the lock will be a source of false confidence and an accident waiting to happen. But then, I am mistrustful of blade locks, and just prefer a slip joint and some care when using.
I would say, and btw that's the fact about all feelings (confidence not excluded, of course), it's just You :D
Someone's confidence/false confidence appeals to something/someone. So, in this case you appeals to SAK's locking mechanism to do/not to do something. What? What do you expect from those mechanism? It has its purpose, as SAK Guy has indicated, and on that purpose you can rest assured the locking mechanism would act (had act) in a proper way. If you put the confidence to something for something that you already know is not the purpose of that thing, that is not confidence, but is at least (and to put it midly) overconfidence ;)
Post by: Caranthanus on April 24, 2015, 10:55:04 PM
I think your concern is justified. I've only owned one Wenger with the locking blade, and it didn't take all that much to close it up without pressing the unlock tab.
Full disclosure, I obtained this sak used, but it doesn't appear abused.
This is another case, when someone talks about his feelings :D rather then about the facts of the thing in question. In this case, how something appears to you. Perceiving something in one way, in fact, doesn't mean that those specific thing exist in that way; it could, but also could not. The only way to find out details on something specific, is to examine that specific thing.
There exist the possibility that your SAK hasn't been abused, but if so, it is for sure somehow defective, misaligned and so on, as I've tried (with unreasonable/excessive force for that task) to close several 85mm Wengers (including my two mods) and neither of them had closed without pushing the unlock button.
To cut the matter short: Wenger (85mm) packlock mechanism Rocks! :gimme:
Post by: smiller43147 on April 27, 2015, 01:59:53 AM
So, I've got 1 locking Wenger that doesn't lock up, and you have 2 that do. That's 67% reliable as I do the math. Perhaps it's just my "feelings", but that doesn't give me a lot of confidence in that design.
Post by: Caranthanus on April 28, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Evidence of some specific thing is, in fact, the evidence of that specific thing.
Someone's relatings of current perceptions of some (one) specific thing to other similar things are, in fact, feelings/emotions. And, btw, "the confidence" is feeling/emotion - conscious subjective experience of emotion :D
I've tried (with unreasonable/excessive force for that task) to close several 85mm Wengers (including my two mods) and neither of them had closed without pushing the unlock button."Several" in the specific case means more than 10 Wenger 85mm packlocks, but for the purpose of easier understanding we would say 10.
As already pointed out, the score was (is) 10 out of 10, that means 100 % (math facts), and that gives a lot of confidence (feelings) for the purpose of that mechanism.
That said, about facts and feelings, anyone can keep his feelings, nonetheless, they're his own. ;)
To cut the matter short: Wenger (85mm) packlock mechanism Rocks! :gimme:
Post by: SAK Guy on April 28, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on April 30, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
After that, I started taking them apart and fixing them myself by bending more tension into the springs. I've probably fixed about a half dozen...all second hand knives. Note that I've never had the problem with any packlock bought new.
Post by: enki_ck on April 30, 2015, 10:44:15 PM
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on May 01, 2015, 04:33:29 AM
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Post by: tjfarrington2000 on May 01, 2015, 04:35:27 AM
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Post by: SAK Guy on May 01, 2015, 05:30:11 AM
Post by: Huntsman on May 01, 2015, 06:33:18 AM
Thanks for the brilliant photos of the W padlock system - Superb :)
I love this feature - I wish Vic would bring it back.
One wee technical question.....
How did you manage to get a photo of the padlock button when it is depressed, and bending the spring 'down', without anything appearing to be pressing on it?? !!
Did you photoshop out your finger - or hold it down using some invisible/hidden force??
I also got a bit confused at the bottom of page one with the philosphical section on feelings and facts and confidence - But I think I get it.
BTW - When I said 'depressed' above - I am not talking about the feelings of the padlock button - rather its physical state!! :D
Post by: Caranthanus on May 01, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
Hey Caranthanus:cheers:
Thanks for the brilliant photos of the W padlock system - Superb :)
I love this feature - I wish Vic would bring it back.
One wee technical question.....
How did you manage to get a photo of the padlock button when it is depressed, and bending the spring 'down', without anything appearing to be pressing on it?? !!
Did you photoshop out your finger - or hold it down using some invisible/hidden force??
I also got a bit confused at the bottom of page one with the philosphical section on feelings and facts and confidence - But I think I get it.
BTW - When I said 'depressed' above - I am not talking about the feelings of the padlock button - rather its physical state!! :D
I was already a bit worried that you may miss this thread, since you're the "main culprit" for its appearance, as you would remember from time of my previous Wenger mod :D
No photoshop ... just The Force was strong with me (http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/vader.gif)
How did you manage to get a photo of the padlock button when it is depressed, and bending the spring 'down'...
>:D First I've tried pushing it down several times in those configuration with just outside liner as shown in the photos to see what's going on and how. Then I had taken off the opposite tool (flat phillips screwdriver in the case) to free the spring tension effect, and then I had made as much as possible real-alike representation of that situation. This is (was) needed only for the very initial push to free the blade tang, once the blade tang is freed, then the blade tang do the trick of pushing down the spring and making free space for lock button falling down :angel:
Btw, glad to see you've gotten out the difference between feelings and physical state (of matter) ;)
Post by: Huntsman on May 01, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
:cheers:
I was already a bit worried that you may miss this thread, since you're the "main culprit" for its appearance, as you would remember from time of my previous Wenger mod :D
Yes I remember...so an even bigger thanks :tu:
I am very honoured and grateful that you made the post.
And also very happy others appreciated it too :D
Good work :salute:
Post by: tjfarrington2000 on May 02, 2015, 05:54:59 AM
Hey Caranthanusthe force is strong with this spring
Thanks for the brilliant photos of the W padlock system - Superb :)
I love this feature - I wish Vic would bring it back.
One wee technical question.....
How did you manage to get a photo of the padlock button when it is depressed, and bending the spring 'down', without anything appearing to be pressing on it?? !!
Did you photoshop out your finger - or hold it down using some invisible/hidden force??
I also got a bit confused at the bottom of page one with the philosphical section on feelings and facts and confidence - But I think I get it.
BTW - When I said 'depressed' above - I am not talking about the feelings of the padlock button - rather its physical state!! :D
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Post by: wmoco on May 02, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
I always wondered how these would work
Post by: Caranthanus on May 02, 2015, 10:57:48 PM