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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: Little Tinker on August 24, 2017, 11:15:22 AM

Title: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Little Tinker on August 24, 2017, 11:15:22 AM
While trying to untangle which standard and modded knifes would fit which pouches I ended up putting this together based on the information in catalogues, Wiki, etc.  Probably more info than we'll ever need, but now it's ready it might help someone  :-[. It's imperfect I think, since the same tool probably ought to always add the same thickness, but that is the best that I could take from the Wiki info, and I think it still gives handy info when considering how hefty a modded knife could be with non-standard layers.

Victorinox broadly describe the "main" pouches as 1-4 layer or 5-8 (sometimes 7) layer.  With the Wiki measurements overlaid to their "this knife fits this pouch" recommendations a couple of possible anomalies for thicker variant 4, 5 and 6 layer knives are potentially corrected, such as the Deluxe Tinker probably being more comfortable in the 5+ pouches and the thicker Cyber knives being very similar to the SwissChamp so may need a 8-layer pouch.

To me, the 4.052X.32 pouches with side space for Maglite plus sharpening stone (or other handy bits...) look very useful for slightly more preparedness, and the 4.056X.03 with compass slot and one Maglite / stone space.  The rest are more of a fashion choice  ::)  :D.

While putting this together I saw some interesting other variants in c.2008 catalogues such as camo pouches.  I haven't included those since they look to be hard to obtain, and information is scarce.

EDIT: Fixed a couple of errors / omissions.

Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Don Pablo on August 24, 2017, 11:37:04 AM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on August 24, 2017, 11:51:50 AM
Awesome job Little Tinker  :tu:

Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: magentus on August 24, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
I thought that your Skinth had been moved to a 'safehouse' until you were deemed a safe owner Pabs.
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: pfrsantos on August 24, 2017, 12:16:10 PM
Very good work!
 :cheers: :tu:

May I make a few sugestions? (yes I may, you can use them or not)  :D :D

The colour-code for 5 and 7 layers is almost the same. Maybe use another colour for one of them (pink)?

Instead of having the pouch codes in the middle of an arrow, showing the range of knives they can carry, why not use rectangular boxes? It might be easier to understand where one ends and another begins.

When you show the difference between SAKs, you wrote the tools added and the size. Why not just show the tools? You can figure out the tool size from the difference between the two knives and the chart is less cluttered, easier to read.
 :salute:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Little Tinker on August 24, 2017, 12:44:21 PM
The colour-code for 5 and 7 layers is almost the same. Maybe use another colour for one of them (pink)?

Agreed, changed.

Instead of having the pouch codes in the middle of an arrow, showing the range of knives they can carry, why not use rectangular boxes? It might be easier to understand where one ends and another begins.

A bit more wok that I now have time for before the modify windows closes, and I still have a preference for the arrows  :D.

When you show the difference between SAKs, you wrote the tools added and the size. Why not just show the tools? You can figure out the tool size from the difference between the two knives and the chart is less cluttered, easier to read.

Those differences were the main reason I used the diagram in the first place, to help me understand how thick a saw (for example) layer was.  Hence I'll leave them in as well, although I agree it is redundant information overall.
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: pfrsantos on August 24, 2017, 01:04:35 PM
The colour-code for 5 and 7 layers is almost the same. Maybe use another colour for one of them (pink)?

Agreed, changed.

Instead of having the pouch codes in the middle of an arrow, showing the range of knives they can carry, why not use rectangular boxes? It might be easier to understand where one ends and another begins.

A bit more wok that I now have time for before the modify windows closes, and I still have a preference for the arrows  :D.

When you show the difference between SAKs, you wrote the tools added and the size. Why not just show the tools? You can figure out the tool size from the difference between the two knives and the chart is less cluttered, easier to read.

Those differences were the main reason I used the diagram in the first place, to help me understand how thick a saw (for example) layer was.  Hence I'll leave them in as well, although I agree it is redundant information overall.

Cool. Glad to help.
 :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Don Pablo on August 24, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
I thought that your Skinth had been moved to a 'safehouse' until you were deemed a safe owner Pabs.
Mechanickal decided that there were big fish to fry (like Nate....), so he let me off the hook.  :angel:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: tommywp on September 05, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
Very useful  :tu:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 06, 2017, 01:30:03 AM
Very useful  :tu:

+1  :like:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: George S on September 25, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
Incredible work, Little Tinker! This will be so useful for modding. Thanks for your efforts.

Perhaps this could be stickied here or on The Mod Squad somehow...?
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: magentus on September 25, 2017, 11:22:16 AM
Good info Little Tinker - I've stickied this now- 'course, that means no one will read it ever again  :D

Thanks for sharing this valuable information dude  :salute:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Mechanickal on September 25, 2017, 11:49:47 AM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
I thought that your Skinth had been moved to a 'safehouse' until you were deemed a safe owner Pabs.
Mechanickal decided that there were big fish to fry (like Nate....), so he let me off the hook.  :angel:
I never did!

Telling lies to SAKnights Pablo?

Consider it re-confiscated! :twak:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Don Pablo on September 25, 2017, 09:00:29 PM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
I thought that your Skinth had been moved to a 'safehouse' until you were deemed a safe owner Pabs.
Mechanickal decided that there were big fish to fry (like Nate....), so he let me off the hook.  :angel:
I never did!

Telling lies to SAKnights Pablo?

Consider it re-confiscated! :twak:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Please... Pleaasseee
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Mechanickal on September 25, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
That's very interesting!  :tu:
I find that until I get my Skinth, I'm keeping some EDC items in my 4.0523.3 F pouch, instead of my EDC SAK, which is a bit too thick to fit.  :-[
I thought that your Skinth had been moved to a 'safehouse' until you were deemed a safe owner Pabs.
Mechanickal decided that there were big fish to fry (like Nate....), so he let me off the hook.  :angel:
I never did!

Telling lies to SAKnights Pablo?

Consider it re-confiscated! :twak:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Please... Pleaasseee
:think:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: an0nemus on September 25, 2017, 11:47:12 PM
Really useful chart also for when planning on what next to acquire for my little SAK collection  :D


Thank you very much, Little Tinker!  :tu: :cheers: :SAKnight:
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Mactire404 on November 07, 2017, 04:58:03 PM
Very useful!
Made a print to keep alongside my collection.
Great when I need to order pouches and can't fit them in store!
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Rob2CV on March 27, 2018, 07:38:16 PM
Very useful resource, many thanks.
 :-)
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: Régis-Joël Charnay on March 31, 2018, 12:49:05 AM
Very practical compact "Spartan" he(it) skips everywhere,  I have some of it
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/790/25960454867_f7a504ff3a_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorinox 91mm knife and pouch sizes
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 31, 2018, 04:12:22 AM
 :like: :drool: