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Title: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 03, 2009, 07:36:29 AM
By Spirits  >:D  Well its now less then a month before I start my new job so today I'm going to start EDCing my Vic Spirit .The Spirit is an obvious choice because due to safety I'm not allowed to carry a pointed blade at work .I've always been fond of the Spirit but always left it behind and taken its bigger brother the Swisstool . So lets see how good the Spirit really is . I'll give updates as and when I use it .



Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 03, 2009, 08:12:20 AM
I'll look forward to the updates mate :tu:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: max6166 on March 03, 2009, 08:26:14 AM
I think the average person would be fine with going to a Spirit after using a SwissTool, but my sense is that you push your tools fairly hard.

I am interested to hear how the Spirit holds up for you.  :cheers:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Magic Bus on March 03, 2009, 08:52:09 AM
I hope you enjoy it Dunc. I liked the one I got from Ben so much I bought another, a BNIB one with the ratchet kit. Ben's gets carried everyday  :)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: WhichDawg on March 03, 2009, 09:41:28 AM
I've done the opposite, carry the Spirit and have the RS at home!
Carries well boss, also looking forward to your thoughts and reviews :salute:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Styerman on March 03, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
I think you'll do just fine with the Spirit . Mine rides on the belt , the RS mostly rides in the briefcase of tool bag .

Chris
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 03, 2009, 08:45:14 PM
I think the average person would be fine with going to a Spirit after using a SwissTool, but my sense is that you push your tools fairly hard.

I am interested to hear how the Spirit holds up for you.  :cheers:

I do use my tools hard but not in all situations  :think:  I will still EDC my Swisstool RS when I'm lifeboat training and for any tough jobs I know I may encounter . But on the other hand the bottle opener on the Spirit is actually thicker then the Swisstool  :o

Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: max6166 on March 03, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
There is a great thread here somewhere comparing the Spirit and Swisstools that is well worth reviewing.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how well most of the Spirit's individual implements fair against those on the ST.

It is probably the difference in pliers that you will notice most. There aren't many that can match the ST "Jaws o' Death".  :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Benner on March 03, 2009, 08:59:54 PM
Good luck with the test.  :)

Both are superb tools, but for me it has to be the full sized Swisstool.  :)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 03, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
Thats exactly what I've always done , chosen the Swisstool over the Spirit because of its size . But the Spirit offers the better tools for its size .

According to Victorinox the Spirit is the Swisstools successor and is more ergonomic and more elegant

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=367&lang=E

I'm really going to give the Spirit a chance although its got a lot to live up too .

Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Poncho65 on March 03, 2009, 10:42:37 PM
Hope you get on with the Spirit Dunc :cheers: Let us know how it goes not having the ST :ahhh :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: jzmtl on March 03, 2009, 10:49:52 PM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 03, 2009, 11:39:50 PM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Neil on March 03, 2009, 11:45:55 PM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 03, 2009, 11:48:55 PM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Well my point is people are forever modding there LM's to make them more functional, and nothings even mentioned, whereas the Vic/Wenger drivers are forever being slated, but people won't even attemp to rectify it with 5 mins work ::)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: J-sews on March 04, 2009, 12:12:42 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Well my point is people are forever modding there LM's to make them more functional, and nothings even mentioned, whereas the Vic/Wenger drivers are forever being slated, but people won't even attemp to rectify it with 5 mins work ::)

True enough, but we don't want to admit it. That would take away one of our few hacks in the Vic -versus- Leatherman debates. :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 04, 2009, 12:13:26 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Well my point is people are forever modding there LM's to make them more functional, and nothings even mentioned, whereas the Vic/Wenger drivers are forever being slated, but people won't even attemp to rectify it with 5 mins work ::)

True enough, but we don't want to admit it. That would take away one of our few hacks in the Vic -versus- Leatherman debates. :D
I figured as much :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: J-sews on March 04, 2009, 12:15:41 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Well my point is people are forever modding there LM's to make them more functional, and nothings even mentioned, whereas the Vic/Wenger drivers are forever being slated, but people won't even attemp to rectify it with 5 mins work ::)

True enough, but we don't want to admit it. That would take away one of our few hacks in the Vic -versus- Leatherman debates. :D
I figured as much :D

So you'll understand mate why I need to delete the previous few posts? Wouldn't want the word getting out amongst the minions. >:D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 04, 2009, 12:17:57 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\

Don't get me wrong, I'm a real magpie but there's a place where shiny should stop :D

Neil
Well my point is people are forever modding there LM's to make them more functional, and nothings even mentioned, whereas the Vic/Wenger drivers are forever being slated, but people won't even attemp to rectify it with 5 mins work ::)

True enough, but we don't want to admit it. That would take away one of our few hacks in the Vic -versus- Leatherman debates. :D
I figured as much :D

So you'll understand mate why I need to delete the previous few posts? Wouldn't want the word getting out amongst the minions. >:D
:D :D

Don't worry I know I'm an army of 1 on that front anyway :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Nikos on March 04, 2009, 12:23:19 AM
That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\
'Cause you also have to break in the blades or work your plier head etc. in your brand-new Surge/Charge/whatever, usually "while watching a film on TV"... ::) The funny thing is that you could amend for the biggest sin of Vic MTs "while watching a couple of commercials on TV", and just sit back and watch the rest of the movie without having to blindly open and close something pinchy/pokey/sharp... :)

PS: 4 new posts in the time it took me to write the above couple of sentences? Dudes, you're fast... :)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: jzmtl on March 04, 2009, 12:42:11 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

How do you square off a phillips driver?  ???
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: DaveK on March 04, 2009, 12:42:55 AM
I agree, sanding the Vic heads to be more like a LM driver would improve them no end ;)

Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: gafftapegreenia on March 04, 2009, 12:43:55 AM
Actually I am a staunch defendant of Leatherman's dedicated drivers.

I'll pretend not to notice this talk of modding Spirits.
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Poncho65 on March 04, 2009, 04:10:30 AM
Just hope you don't have to turn any Phillips, I had trouble assemble a BBQ with spirit because the driver slips so much. 
See I can never understand why people don't just take a sharpening stone and square off the drivers ??? I do that with all mine, and it takes less than 5 mins ::)

How do you square off a phillips driver?  ???

he means take the shiny off :D
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 04, 2009, 07:22:59 AM
I find the Spirits phillips a little smaller and slightly better fit then the Swisstool , although its not much better .If my Swisstools start to slip and get rounded then I do what Micky does and square them up with a stone .

Spirit on the right


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/Sat001.jpg)

Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 04, 2009, 10:43:10 AM
That's a good point but I suppose the response is,  why should you have to  :-\
'Cause you also have to break in the blades or work your plier head etc. in your brand-new Surge/Charge/whatever, usually "while watching a film on TV"... ::) The funny thing is that you could amend for the biggest sin of Vic MTs "while watching a couple of commercials on TV", and just sit back and watch the rest of the movie without having to blindly open and close something pinchy/pokey/sharp... :)

PS: 4 new posts in the time it took me to write the above couple of sentences? Dudes, you're fast... :)
Thank you :tu:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: jzmtl on March 05, 2009, 04:51:57 AM
Funny you said that, my spirit didn't need break in, the plier head was kinda loose and wobbly from the start.  :P
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 05, 2009, 07:30:23 AM
And there was me thinking this thread was more about how the Spirit compares to a Swisstool rather then Leathermans  ::)

I'll do a Sprit V's Blast comparison test soon  ;)



Any way does anyone know anything about the model issued to the Dutch army ? I have a feeling thats how the 'S' mosel came about  :think:

Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Magic Bus on March 06, 2009, 08:41:38 AM
Any thoughts yet Dunc ?  :pok:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 07, 2009, 10:32:47 AM
Any thoughts yet Dunc ?  :pok:

Well yes I have actually  :D I have just got a new car , well its not exactly new . Its a 1998 Ford Escort Estate . So yesterday I was taking out the old stereo system from my soon to be scrapped Beemer . The Spirit was great for removing trim and pulling through wires . But it was the butter knife blade that really caught my attention . I had to cut some wire ties and the blunt tip was great because I didn't have to worry about a point digging into the wires while I cut .

Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Neil on March 07, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
Any thoughts yet Dunc ?  :pok:

Well yes I have actually  :D I have just got a new car , well its not exactly new . Its a 1998 Ford Escort Estate . So yesterday I was taking out the old stereo system from my soon to be scrapped Beemer . The Spirit was great for removing trim and pulling through wires . But it was the butter knife blade that really caught my attention . I had to cut some wire ties and the blunt tip was great because I didn't have to worry about a point digging into the wires while I cut .

Dunc

I actually really like the butter knife on the Spirit.  I think its just its unusual looks that put people off, its a very capable blade.

Neil
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Roadie on March 07, 2009, 10:38:16 AM
But it was the butter knife blade that really caught my attention . I had to cut some wire ties and the blunt tip was great because I didn't have to worry about a point digging into the wires while I cut .

Dunc

:tu: One of the reasons I tend to carry it when being a techie person :)
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Magic Bus on March 07, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
Any thoughts yet Dunc ?  :pok:

Well yes I have actually  :D I have just got a new car , well its not exactly new . Its a 1998 Ford Escort Estate . So yesterday I was taking out the old stereo system from my soon to be scrapped Beemer . The Spirit was great for removing trim and pulling through wires . But it was the butter knife blade that really caught my attention . I had to cut some wire ties and the blunt tip was great because I didn't have to worry about a point digging into the wires while I cut .

Dunc


He He GO SPIRIT   :multi:
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 07, 2009, 12:39:36 PM
Another plus for the blade is it makes quite a good blade for use in first aid .


Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Roadie on March 07, 2009, 09:51:42 PM
Spirit came in very handy today, multiple cable ties on cables needed cutting and had to install a snake (multicore) onto a reel (which was a fun job ::) )
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 14, 2009, 02:26:43 PM
While I was cleaning my car I noticed the pin in the handle for the sunroof was coming out .Out came the Spirit

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/Incar005.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/Incar006.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/ebbingtide/album1/Incar007.jpg)

All sorted out now  :D


Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 16, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
I went Geocaching yesterday for the first time and got a thorn stuck in my hand while scrambling about in the woods  :D Used my Spirit to remove the thorn . and today I used the butter knife blade to cut a webbing strap on a boat trailer . Its very tuff stuff that they use on lorry straps and much thicker then a car seat belt . Went through it like a hot knife through butter  :tu:


Dunc
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Magic Bus on March 16, 2009, 08:44:23 PM
You're obviously finding the Spirit useful Dunc  :tu: I bet you carry a PE folder along with it? Although it's smaller than the Swisstool I reckon the Spirit is plenty strong and close to being the perfect MT.
Title: Re: I've been possessed............
Post by: Dunc on March 17, 2009, 07:22:35 AM
You're obviously finding the Spirit useful Dunc  :tu: I bet you carry a PE folder along with it? Although it's smaller than the Swisstool I reckon the Spirit is plenty strong and close to being the perfect MT.

Yes I paired it with a Vic Farmer yesterday . A Climber is another good choice to pair . I still do EDC the full size Swisstool but mainly for heavy jobs but this may change as I gain more confidence in the Spirit , that butterknife blade does hove some awsome cutting power but then I've always been a fan of Vic serrations . The Swisstool is still one of my favourites though  ;)


Dunc