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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: ducttapetech on August 13, 2014, 03:19:39 PM
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This last weekend I went out and done practiced some of my firemaking skills and now I wondering, what is in your fire kits. Any ideas, or tricks that you want to share.
That's us mobile.
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Bicycle inner tube pieces are a new "must-have" for me. I also carry matches in a waterproof case, a ferro rod and a jet flame butane lighter. I normally gather tinder when out and about but the inner tube rubber is a great backup for when things get really tricky.
The most useful fire starting technique (IMO anyway) is getting good at making feather sticks.
NOT MY PICS, but here is what I'd call a poor example of a feather stick:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3490/4036737471_ae20089f91.jpg)
Better is something like this (again, not my pic):
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rachel_aitch/shirts/pix/char5.jpg)
If you really want to go all out, then you can aim for this. Though, personally, I think that's a little more than it needs to be.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m60/warthog1981/P9140056.jpg)
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I always carry an XL Exotac Nanostriker with a bit of cotton wool in it, with a further supply in a spy capsule. Add a Victorinox Farmer and your pretty guaranteed fire with the minimum amount of bulk, especially if like Gareth you are pretty handy with making feather sticks :)
In my larger fire kit I take down the woods is a tobacco tin with wire wool a 9v battery a bush key and a magnifying lens with a spare ferro rod and a bush key which I'm not very good at yet ::) and some strips of inner tube.
For actual fire then I use a permanent match. K1 survival do a really good one there's a video on YouTube but I'm on my phone and can't find it.
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If your forest has fir trees, you don't need a feather stick. Fir trees have summer and winter thin dry twigs, at the bottom, that are great to start a fire.
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Or use birch.
Found a vid of it on youtube (it´s not me), nice at birch is it works dry and wet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pE0XKjRJR3M
But usually i have no interest in toying around, and so i use the firestarter blocks from the supermarket for bbq-grills and/or fireplaces. :D
Other than that - a mini BIC, some stormproof matches, and a IMCO 6700.
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I use an Andy Kirkham "Canadian" style steel striker from Woodlore, a bit of old garden flint knapped to give a clean edge. The tin is a "British" pattern c1790 replica in copper.
The burnable stuff is jute string (jute window sash cord from the local DIY merchants at a fiver for ten metres) and charcloth, some of which is home made.
Check out the pics on the links:-
http://www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/pictures/fire/tinderboxes/500_1790_copper_contents.jpg
http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/716-Steel-Striker-Traditional-Canadian-Design/
It all works well enough for me :D
I do also have a fire bow, which I will occasionally attempt if I wish to raise my blood pressure, swear loads and generally become unreasonable to all and sundry without so much as getting an ember :facepalm:
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:D
Love that tinder box and striker! :)
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Same here! That is nice!
That's us mobile.
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The only thing I carry that most people don't is a chunk of aluminum foil. No, not for the myth of the cup, or for fish, but to put under my initial firebuild. Damp ground can be a problem, and while you can build a platform of wet wood, that's still wet, right under your fire. A square of foil helps keep everything that much drier. And you can fold it up and prop it on one side if you don't have much to use for a windbreak.
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Love that tinder box and striker! :)
The box is available for Shark Design (http://www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/) with a striker, flint etc for about £40, they're nice guys to deal with too. They do a lot of nice kit and their leatherwork is especially good.
The striker in the second photo is from Ray Mears' company (http://www.raymears.com/) although the striker that comes with the tinderbox from Shark is also very good, I preferred the Ray Mears one as it has more "finger room". It cost about £30, again they seem to be a good company to deal with. :)
(ps I'm not affiliated with either company)
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The only thing I carry that most people don't is a chunk of aluminum foil. No, not for the myth of the cup, or for fish, but to put under my initial firebuild. Damp ground can be a problem, and while you can build a platform of wet wood, that's still wet, right under your fire. A square of foil helps keep everything that much drier. And you can fold it up and prop it on one side if you don't have much to use for a windbreak.
That's a really good idea Ironraven. I've only ever used leaves as a base on damp ground, but will try this at the next bushymeet I attend :)
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Like the idea of the foil! :)
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I use an Andy Kirkham "Canadian" style steel striker from Woodlore, a bit of old garden flint knapped to give a clean edge. The tin is a "British" pattern c1790 replica in copper.
The burnable stuff is jute string (jute window sash cord from the local DIY merchants at a fiver for ten metres) and charcloth, some of which is home made.
Check out the pics on the links:-
http://www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/pictures/fire/tinderboxes/500_1790_copper_contents.jpg
http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/716-Steel-Striker-Traditional-Canadian-Design/
It all works well enough for me :D
I do also have a fire bow, which I will occasionally attempt if I wish to raise my blood pressure, swear loads and generally become unreasonable to all and sundry without so much as getting an ember :facepalm:
I didn't know Andy Kirkham was making stuff for Ray Mears. I knew Andy a little many years ago and he's a heck of a nice guy, in fact he made the longbow I have. :tu:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Shooting-1.jpg)
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My firekit contains about 2m of jute twine, a magnesium firestarter (actually a nice gift), some wax paper and one of those magnifying glass cards. To be fair the jute should be waxed, the mag firestarter will end up as a block of magnesium without the ferro rod since they don't wear exactly evenly.
But it works for BBQs and bush bumming so I'm fine with it
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Styx, you have just reminded me of a trick someone once suggested to me but I never quite got around to trying.
Take a magnisium pencil sharpener (http://www.cultpens.com/i/q/KM08512/kum-magnesium-wedge-double-hole-sharpener-410#KM08512-1) with you; then you could take scrapings from the body of the sharpener, but (more importantly) create mounds of wood shavings by just finding a suitable sized stick. :)
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nice idea, could be worth trying out
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I use an Andy Kirkham "Canadian" style steel striker from Woodlore, a bit of old garden flint knapped to give a clean edge. The tin is a "British" pattern c1790 replica in copper.
The burnable stuff is jute string (jute window sash cord from the local DIY merchants at a fiver for ten metres) and charcloth, some of which is home made.
Check out the pics on the links:-
http://www.sharkdesigns.co.uk/pictures/fire/tinderboxes/500_1790_copper_contents.jpg
http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/716-Steel-Striker-Traditional-Canadian-Design/
It all works well enough for me :D
I do also have a fire bow, which I will occasionally attempt if I wish to raise my blood pressure, swear loads and generally become unreasonable to all and sundry without so much as getting an ember :facepalm:
I didn't know Andy Kirkham was making stuff for Ray Mears. I knew Andy a little many years ago and he's a heck of a nice guy, in fact he made the longbow I have. :tu:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Shooting-1.jpg)
I think this was a commissioned design as I have only seen that shape on the Ray Mears website. It certainly is the best striker I have ever used.
That's a really fine bow Gareth :)
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Styx, you have just reminded me of a trick someone once suggested to me but I never quite got around to trying.
Take a magnisium pencil sharpener (http://www.cultpens.com/i/q/KM08512/kum-magnesium-wedge-double-hole-sharpener-410#KM08512-1) with you; then you could take scrapings from the body of the sharpener, but (more importantly) create mounds of wood shavings by just finding a suitable sized stick. :)
I have managed with a very dry stick to ignite the woodshavings from a pencil sharpener with just a firsteel
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Styx, you have just reminded me of a trick someone once suggested to me but I never quite got around to trying.
Take a magnisium pencil sharpener (http://www.cultpens.com/i/q/KM08512/kum-magnesium-wedge-double-hole-sharpener-410#KM08512-1) with you; then you could take scrapings from the body of the sharpener, but (more importantly) create mounds of wood shavings by just finding a suitable sized stick. :)
I do this and have found it to be very useful. I haven't scraped the magnesium off of mine yet, but it is nice knowing that I have another option.
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mine is fairly simple... a good, sturdy ferro rod and a waterproof match container stuffed full of vaseline-soaked cotton balls. I try not to use the cotton balls unless I really need them, but this combo pretty much guarantees fire for me. :)
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(http://media.tumblr.com/45555afa7a5f5405aef3cd0432062443/tumblr_inline_nbwe4xt3DJ1sic50v.jpg)
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I posted somewhere that making fire for me was not successful. I'd like to be proficient in making fire but in the mean time what I like is easy.
I bought these little logs to get my BBQ lit without having to use liquid accelerants. I cut off a small piece and WOW this stuff burns.
I think this would make a great addition to a kit especially when wrapped in foil. I'd imagine throwing a spark at it would set it off as well.
There is a good video I watched on the burn time for this product and am impressed.
FIRE -Part 8- Finally, some frickin' FIRE!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pQl90YRzlM#ws)
FIRE -Part 9- "The End" (maybe...) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_2g_7zxjyY#ws)
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I wonder if you could scrape some off and light it with a ferro rod? Gonna have to try that. Looks like it would.
Thanks for the heads up.
Nate
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I wonder if you could scrape some off and light it with a ferro rod? Gonna have to try that. Looks like it would.
Thanks for the heads up.
Nate
I like to know too. I imagine it would since whatever this log is made is pretty flammable. I cut small pieces off for my grill and keep the remaining in a tupperware type container. I got it at wallymart for .99c. I recently went a there was a huge box of fat wood that tempted me but this stuff is really good.
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When I get a chance, I will grab a block of it and try it.
Nate
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I have butane lighters in all my kits. First and foremost, simplest, fastest, and incredibly reliable, but always with a more rugged backup. I think lots of folks skip lighters and I'm not sure why. I get that they can run out... after literally a thousand lights. AND I get that they can run dry, but that's usually the cheapies. I've never had that problem with Bics.
Second is ANOTHER lighter, in my emergency kit in the car.
Third is a magnesium block with ferro rod in my emergency backpack. Followed by another ferro rod.
In the little Altoids kit I made, it had a mini bic and ferro rod.
Tinder is paper, cotton balls saturated with parafin, and tea candles. I much prefer parafin wax to petrolium jelly, which I find grossly messy. I think I might also have chapstick in my kit too. I think I need to check on that.
I have at least SOME aluminum foil in all of my kits for the above-stated reason, and also for use as a wind screen for fire starting and possibly for cooking. I have never been able to get water boiling in a makeshift aluminum foil container., not that I've tried much.
I would still like to pick up some credit card size fresnel lenses and play with them. I have never gotten ignition from a SAK magnifying glass. I bought a cheap (like $2) magnifying glass form Walmart with about a 2" lens, and it'd combust things quite easily.
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A lot of us, including me skip lighters because we already have them on us. Also, a lot of us can start a fire pretty quick with a ferro rod. It does take some practice. But once you get it, you got it. Also while a Bic gets a few hundred or even a thousand. A ferro rod gets thousands of lights, works when wet. Less moving parts. I have had Bics, Zippos and other lightersw fail in just day to day use. Ferro does not seems to care. Now saying this, if I am in a bad way, and my lighter works, I gonna use it.
Let us also keep in mind, some firekits, like mine, doesn't really on tinder brought from home. Or a Bic. It relies on materials from your surroundings. It requires you to know your smurf and be able to do it.
I and others have said it before, practice, practice and practice some more. Best kit in the world won't do jack if you don't know how to use it.
Nate
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A lot of us, including me skip lighters because we already have them on us. Also, a lot of us can start a fire pretty quick with a ferro rod. It does take some practice. But once you get it, you got it. Also while a Bic gets a few hundred or even a thousand. A ferro rod gets thousands of lights, works when wet. Less moving parts. I have had Bics, Zippos and other lightersw fail in just day to day use. Ferro does not seems to care. Now saying this, if I am in a bad way, and my lighter works, I gonna use it.
Let us also keep in mind, some firekits, like mine, doesn't really on tinder brought from home. Or a Bic. It relies on materials from your surroundings. It requires you to know your smurf and be able to do it.
I and others have said it before, practice, practice and practice some more. Best kit in the world won't do jack if you don't know how to use it.
Nate
I use lighters and items like the Duraflame firestarter because I suck at starting fire. I believe the above is terrific way to look at things. I'm going to continue to practice bit in the mean time I'll keep my tried and true kit close at hand. I also dont see myself being to far from the connivence of fire making materials so making fire is more a WANTED skill.
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A lot of us, including me skip lighters because we already have them on us. Also, a lot of us can start a fire pretty quick with a ferro rod. It does take some practice. But once you get it, you got it. Also while a Bic gets a few hundred or even a thousand. A ferro rod gets thousands of lights, works when wet. Less moving parts. I have had Bics, Zippos and other lightersw fail in just day to day use. Ferro does not seems to care. Now saying this, if I am in a bad way, and my lighter works, I gonna use it.
Let us also keep in mind, some firekits, like mine, doesn't really on tinder brought from home. Or a Bic. It relies on materials from your surroundings. It requires you to know your smurf and be able to do it.
I and others have said it before, practice, practice and practice some more. Best kit in the world won't do jack if you don't know how to use it.
Nate
I use lighters and items like the Duraflame firestarter because I suck at starting fire. I believe the above is terrific way to look at things. I'm going to continue to practice bit in the mean time I'll keep my tried and true kit close at hand. I also dont see myself being to far from the connivence of fire making materials so making fire is more a WANTED skill.
Nothing wrong with your kit. If it works for you then by all means use it. More power to you. And a lot of us are like you, it is a wanted skill. And it is a lot of fun. And maybe, hopefully not, you might need it.
Nate
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I like fire. A lot.
You might say I have a problem when it comes to fire making that is akin to the problem some here have with SAKs. I like being able to produce flame from a number of sources and methods, and I practice anything I can get my hands on.
My bag based EDC reflects that desire. I believe I have at least 7 methods of making fire on me without resorting to friction.
Let's see.. off the top of my head. .
Bic lighter in the bag (and one on my person)
Ferro rod
Storm proof matches in a safe with cotton
mag glass
Fresnel lens
Double wick candle in a tin along with cotton and a book of paper matches
Bicycle tire inner tube band
Esee steel (and bow drill socket)
Aluminum foil
spark lite
tinder quick
Chap Stick
Batteries
plenty of knives of course..
And cordage if friction is the last resort.
Anything else I can gather in the outdoors. I've tested all manner of tinder from plants. It isn't terribly difficult where I reside to find plenty of useful material via a quick woods walk.
So far pouring rain is my only real nemesis. Takes a lot of work in the wet to even get set up. And God forbid you are down to flint and steel or friction in the pouring rain. If you can find a dry sheltered spot, not so bad, but still bad.
Though I have tinder in my kit, I still tend to gather it as I walk, even though I don't need it. Or I at least note where I saw it. Odd, that.
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What, no love for char cloth? It works great with ferro rods.
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Well, if anyone asks glorn if he has a light, the answer is; emphatically, yes! :D
Rain and cold are indeed the real killers of fire building. I've managed in both but it takes a lot more work to get things going, and there have been a couple of times where I've decided to stop trying as I felt it was getting more to be more hassle than it was worth.
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Is there anything in particular I should be looking for in a ferro rod/magnesium block?
I am more motivated than ever to up my fire making repertoire.
I buy lighters buy the dozen at the dollar store and have now have some Zip fire thingies. You can smell the accelerant thru the box they came in. I saw a guy throw a spark on the unopened package and it lit no problem at all.
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Well, if anyone asks glorn if he has a light, the answer is; emphatically, yes! :D
Heh heh.. true. :cheers:
Just got the Esee steel recently. Very nice bit of kit. Simple, and not exactly high tech, but well thought out and has multiple uses. A bit spendy for what it is, but you pay for the good idea and execution of design. A bow drill socket can be a pain to sort out in the field, so adding that to a steel is smart if not at least clever. The sharp edge strikes ferro like a champ too.
If one lives in an area where flint is common enough, and wished (unlike me) to have a small fire kit, I would say this is a good place to start. Comes in a tin, so making charred cloth would be easy. Toss in a small ferro, some cotton, a few matches, a mini Bic, and maybe some pre-made charred cloth and you'd be good to go for sure in the size of a candy tin. Wrap with cord and you have yet another option. You could have 4-5 fire making options in that tiny box.
(http://www.eseeknives.com/highres/Fire-Steel.jpg)
I had considered posting a review in the OPMT forum, as it truly is a multitool for fire making. (strikes ferro, strikes sparks with flint, drill socket) But I suppose it would get shot down due to lacking a bottle opener or what have you.
The patina on mine is lovely too BTW. It would appear that they actually apply an acid to them on purpose for the looks alone.
http://www.eseeknives.com/fire-steel.htm
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I'd not come across that ESEE steel before, great looking bit of kit. :tu: One to add to my Christmas wish list I think.
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Is there anything in particular I should be looking for in a ferro rod/magnesium block?
I am more motivated than ever to up my fire making repertoire.
I buy lighters buy the dozen at the dollar store and have now have some Zip fire thingies. You can smell the accelerant thru the box they came in. I saw a guy throw a spark on the unopened package and it lit no problem at all.
Best thing to do is get a good fat ferro rod. That is all you need as for making fires that way. Also, the problem with the combo ferro/magnesium block is you will use up the ferro way before you will the magnesium. A neat to trick to do though, get a cheap combo one and slowly drill a bunch of holes in it and save the shavings. You can use those for the really hard starts. Way easier than trying to use a blade or what have to scape some of the block. Once you get some practice, you will be able to light most fires with just the ferro rod.
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Glorn, that esee steel looks sweet! Does the steel get hot when using it for a bow drill?
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Is there anything in particular I should be looking for in a ferro rod/magnesium block?
I am more motivated than ever to up my fire making repertoire.
I buy lighters buy the dozen at the dollar store and have now have some Zip fire thingies. You can smell the accelerant thru the box they came in. I saw a guy throw a spark on the unopened package and it lit no problem at all.
Best thing to do is get a good fat ferro rod. That is all you need as for making fires that way. Also, the problem with the combo ferro/magnesium block is you will use up the ferro way before you will the magnesium. A neat to trick to do though, get a cheap combo one and slowly drill a bunch of holes in it and save the shavings. You can use those for the really hard starts. Way easier than trying to use a blade or what have to scape some of the block. Once you get some practice, you will be able to light most fires with just the ferro rod.
Thank you.
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Patina..
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Glorn, that esee steel looks sweet! Does the steel get hot when using it for a bow drill?
It is a great design. Thick cut steel and pleasant to handle.
I just got it this week, so I have not yet had a chance to try the bow drill socket. The papers that came with it do describe it getting hot, so I imagine it would. But it would be easy enough to put on gloves or something in between ones hand and it. Frankly, on a cold day I might welcome that hot slab of steel as a hand warmer. I'd rather have the heat build up over futzing around with a rock as a socket or drilling a second bit of hardwood for the job. I have split wooden sockets on occasion. I always wanted a knife with the socket in the handle, but prefer Moras for EDC, so when I was looking for a steel and found this.. made my day.
I do love the look of old school blacksmith type steels, but I prefer this modern interpretation.
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Thanks Glorn! I think when I get a bit of extra coin, I am going to get one. Looks like it will throw some nice sparks with a piece of flint. Looks to be a nice bit of kit.
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For $30 on Amazon, it is a bit expensive for a hunk of carbon steel, but.. it is quite nice. Again, paying for the idea. I doubt you'd be disappointed. Thicker, wider, and shorter than a Pocket Wrench II, but similar form factor. Could be carried on a cord or carabiner. Easily pocketed as well.
It does throw sparks with flint easily. Though that is more about the edge on the flint I think.
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For $30 on Amazon, it is a bit expensive for a hunk of carbon steel, but.. it is quite nice. Again, paying for the idea. I doubt you'd be disappointed. Thicker, wider, and shorter than a Pocket Wrench II, but similar form factor. Could be carried on a cord or carabiner. Easily pocketed as well.
It does throw sparks with flint easily. Though that is more about the edge on the flint I think.
Both I believe. Got to have good steel for a piece of sharp flint to work.
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This last weekend I went out and done practiced some of my firemaking skills and now I wondering, what is in your fire kits. Any ideas, or tricks that you want to share.
I have a few items in my fire kit tin as my wife and I camp quite a bit.
1 sm. block of magnesium w/ file striker
1 Bic lighter
10 cotton balls
2 MilSurplus Heat Tabs (The old C-Rations heating tablets)
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I just wrote a massive post and my internet went down and I lost it! :facepalm:
To cut it short I have a couple of wet fire and some tinder quik in a small otterbox along with a LMF Scout and a mini bic.
I also have a ust strike force (AWESOME Ferro rod) and an exotac nano striker.
Wet fire doesn't last very long before it dries out even when kept in the foil packets, and they don't fit in the storage end of the strike force without piercing the foil (UST FAIL).
Tinder Quiks are awesome, I don't have any complaints about those.
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Ok so I think I got my kit worked out but please chime in.
My goal was simple for fire starting and at the most basic of ideas is a lighter. I wanted to be able to start a fire easily with the least amount of effort and in difficult conditions.
The lighter is the simplest lets face it but for fun let's go with the scenario that my lighter fails, what's my next approach?
Accelerants. The name says it all right? I want to hedge my bet on getting a fire going. My choice is the very flammable Zip fire starter block broken down and carried in a small crazy glue tube. This stuff takes a spark like crazy and can be lit by spark without taking it out of the package.
Charcloth. While this is a process to make its a fun process and very lightweight.
Steelwool 0000. Lightweight and can be lit by spark or battery.
Magnesium. This stuff burns and takes a spark pretty easy.
Aluminum foil. To be used as others have suggested as a platform ( wet ground ) on which to work to contain for magnesium shavings, charcloth, Zip fire starter also as a wind screen.
Flint steel and striker. I'll need something create sparks right!
Everything fits into a Altoid tin wrapped with electrical tape ( offer some water resistance ) and ranger bands holding a Spartan to the top.
To me its simple and covers a variety of scenarios. Fire starting is more of a fun thing to do for me. I seem to always reach for the lighter honestly when I light something at camp. It is neat however to create fire.
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Ok so I think I got my kit worked out but please chime in.
My goal was simple for fire starting and at the most basic of ideas is a lighter. I wanted to be able to start a fire easily with the least amount of effort and in difficult conditions.
The lighter is the simplest lets face it but for fun let's go with the scenario that my lighter fails, what's my next approach?
Accelerants. The name says it all right? I want to hedge my bet on getting a fire going. My choice is the very flammable Zip fire starter block broken down and carried in a small crazy glue tube. This stuff takes a spark like crazy and can be lit by spark without taking it out of the package.
Charcloth. While this is a process to make its a fun process and very lightweight.
Steelwool 0000. Lightweight and can be lit by spark or battery.
Magnesium. This stuff burns and takes a spark pretty easy.
Aluminum foil. To be used as others have suggested as a platform ( wet ground ) on which to work to contain for magnesium shavings, charcloth, Zip fire starter also as a wind screen.
Flint steel and striker. I'll need something create sparks right!
Everything fits into a Altoid tin wrapped with electrical tape ( offer some water resistance ) and ranger bands holding a Spartan to the top.
To me its simple and covers a variety of scenarios. Fire starting is more of a fun thing to do for me. I seem to always reach for the lighter honestly when I light something at camp. It is neat however to create fire.
I think this should be a fun kit to play with, I see items like charcloth, flint/steel, steel wool 0000 are more for the fun, but lighter, magnesium(get the Doan, other cheap Chinese block can't live up to it, and get a spare ferro rod since the original may fell off it), "Accelerants" are probably the meat and potato for sure fire.
My personal favorite is Tinder Quik, tested it in so many different environment, dump and soak it thru in water and still light up with ferro rod. Wet fire is also great for rainy days. I do suggest to consider some kind of tinder/"accelerants" that would work well even under foul weather.
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Yes the 0000 steel wool and charcloth are the fun stuff but the I've also seen the Steel wool light pretty easily even wet ( I've not tested ). The Zip is a highly flammable substance and in my testing took a very weak spark to ignite. In thinking about it I will add a stick of fatwood as well.
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Bicycle inner tube pieces are a new "must-have" for me. I also carry matches in a waterproof case, a ferro rod and a jet flame butane lighter. I normally gather tinder when out and about but the inner tube rubber is a great backup for when things get really tricky.
The most useful fire starting technique (IMO anyway) is getting good at making feather sticks.
NOT MY PICS, but here is what I'd call a poor example of a feather stick:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3490/4036737471_ae20089f91.jpg)
Better is something like this (again, not my pic):
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rachel_aitch/shirts/pix/char5.jpg)
If you really want to go all out, then you can aim for this. Though, personally, I think that's a little more than it needs to be.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m60/warthog1981/P9140056.jpg)
Hello Gareth,
I usually go for camping trip to forests. Thanks for sharing this post. I will by now will definitely carry some fire starter when I will be out for some camping trips.
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Good stuff cool123. 8) Before you go out have a good read of some campfire safety guides (google for a few options) and make sure of the rules regarding fires in the area you are going too. A good fire is what makes a camping trip for me, but I'd not want to be responsible for a forest fire either. :ahhh
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Got back from my camping trip and wanted to share my fire kit success.
Magnesium shavings for me work great. It was wet and cold out and these worked great to give me just enough edge to get a fire going.
Zip fire starter was an easy way to go about getting fire going tho the wet tinder was stubborn.
I made some char cloth from a thin cotton item and while it worked I think a thicker cotton t shirt would have better. My char cloth caught fire but seemed to go out pretty quickly.
I gathered as much fine material and placed it in the center of my birds nest and tried each component and threw a spark into the center. I was successful on each try. I wasn't successful with just a spark. It had rained and most tinder was very wet.
I tried my hand a making a feather stick and trying to ignite it and was unsuccessful. The campsite has oak, pine, ash, cedar and a good mix of shrubs and grasses. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know all the different materials so I focused on dry material. I did want to avoid pine only because of the resin "advantage".
I did use my cast iron pan but I was successful on wet dirt too.
I've learned some things and most importantly patience.
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Looks like you had a blast! Nice pics too!
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It was a great time thanx. I had so much fun trying different methods and the weather was perfect to challenge us. I forgot to mention I had success with 0000 steel wool too this stuff goes up quick.
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Sweet! I always said a bad day in the woods is better than a good day at work.
I am gonna try to get in the woods tomarrow or Sunday, hopefully.
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Here's my fire kit that I've been using for a while, along with my Stay Glow Hiker
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Well, if anyone asks glorn if he has a light, the answer is; emphatically, yes! :D
Heh heh.. true. :cheers:
Just got the Esee steel recently. Very nice bit of kit. Simple, and not exactly high tech, but well thought out and has multiple uses. A bit spendy for what it is, but you pay for the good idea and execution of design. A bow drill socket can be a pain to sort out in the field, so adding that to a steel is smart if not at least clever. The sharp edge strikes ferro like a champ too.
If one lives in an area where flint is common enough, and wished (unlike me) to have a small fire kit, I would say this is a good place to start. Comes in a tin, so making charred cloth would be easy. Toss in a small ferro, some cotton, a few matches, a mini Bic, and maybe some pre-made charred cloth and you'd be good to go for sure in the size of a candy tin. Wrap with cord and you have yet another option. You could have 4-5 fire making options in that tiny box.
(http://www.eseeknives.com/highres/Fire-Steel.jpg)
I had considered posting a review in the OPMT forum, as it truly is a multitool for fire making. (strikes ferro, strikes sparks with flint, drill socket) But I suppose it would get shot down due to lacking a bottle opener or what have you.
The patina on mine is lovely too BTW. It would appear that they actually apply an acid to them on purpose for the looks alone.
http://www.eseeknives.com/fire-steel.htm
Nice ESEE steel , alway want one
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Some firekit and gear. First up Bic lighter with bicycle inner tube wrap
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Flint and steel kit w/char cloth and jute cord.
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Ferro rods, magnesium bar and Bic lighter.
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Matches, vasoline soaked cotton balls, fresnal magnifying lens, hand sanitizer.
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Great kits. Reading thru my old posts man I've come along nicely.
I especially like the flint and steel set up. I've not tried this method yet but seem fun and challenging.
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Flint and steel is fun and challenging. Once you get the hang of it its really a great way to get a fire started.
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Having a look at your ferro rods and such in the Maxped pouch, what a great set up. I see lots of tool set ups ( I have 2 ) in the smaller pouches but I dig the fire set up usage.
I think the popular thing to do is make altoid tin kits. I know I have a couple which are nice but rattly. Anyway I like soft pouch set up a lot :tu:.
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The Maxped pouch is a work in progress. I'm experimenting on different set ups. For some reason I have alot of extra ferro rods hanging out there at the moment. I will proably put a flint and steel in there when I find the right size one I like and works well.
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Been looking for a glass magnifying lens for the fire kit off and on for some time. Found this 7x one and will report back after I use it some to find out how it works. It is a hair over 1 1/2" wide. :)
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It's fun to make fire with a mag glass. I got one from some broken binoculars. Works really good. I don't know the magnification tho but guess since it works no biggie.
Can't wait to see the results.
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What I hate most about making fire with a magnifying glass are the spots in your vision during & afterwards...... :D
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What I hate most about making fire with a magnifying glass are the spots in your vision during & afterwards...... :D
It's been a long time since I've used a magnifying glass to start a fire. I'd forgotten about the spot thing. :D
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Been looking for a glass magnifying lens for the fire kit off and on for some time. Found this 7x one and will report back after I use it some to find out how it works. It is a hair over 1 1/2" wide. :)
Looks very cool David!!!!! Let us know how you like it! :2tu:
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Somehow missed this thread, but I'm I'm a bit of a pyromaniac as well :facepalm:
Major problem with my firekit is it's trying to be all things to all men at all times :rofl: ........just too much.
Sure I'm missing something, but here's a bit of a list:
1. BIC lighter with cable tie thingy to prevent the fuel lever being pressed.
2. Storm proof matches
3. Ferro rod(s)
4. Magnesium bar(s)
5. Magnifying glass
6. Parabolic mirror made from bottom of a spray paint can - thickest walled can I could find.
7. Char cloth and rope in the shoe polish can that can be used to make more.
8. Cotton wool
9. Steel wool
10. Petroleum jelly.
11. Glycerin and Potassium permanganate
I know I'm missing something......
Broken and blistered from trying, but friction fires with everything from hand drills, bow drills, even pump drills, too many kinds of wood to mention..........mostly there will be smoke, but so far not one fire :facepalm:
IIRC that achievement was my new years undertaking & resolution for 2014 :facepalm:
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Somehow missed this thread, but I'm I'm a bit of a pyromaniac as well :facepalm:
Major problem with my firekit is it's trying to be all things to all men at all times :rofl: ........just too much.
Sure I'm missing something, but here's a bit of a list:
1. BIC lighter with cable tie thingy to prevent the fuel lever being pressed.
2. Storm proof matches
3. Ferro rod(s)
4. Magnesium bar(s)
5. Magnifying glass
6. Parabolic mirror made from bottom of a spray paint can - thickest walled can I could find.
7. Char cloth and rope in the shoe polish can that can be used to make more.
8. Cotton wool
9. Steel wool
10. Petroleum jelly.
11. Glycerin and Potassium permanganate
I know I'm missing something......
Broken and blistered from trying, but friction fires with everything from hand drills, bow drills, even pump drills, too many kinds of wood to mention..........mostly there will be smoke, but so far not one fire :facepalm:
IIRC that achievement was my new years undertaking & resolution for 2014 :facepalm:
Have you considered starting a fire with one hand. Most of your items will work but you need to practice, especially with your weaker hand. Those one handed Ferro Rods are also nice.
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The bow drill is one way I've never tried yet. It's been on the back burner but never acted upon. Maybe this summer??? :)
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The bow drill is one way I've never tried yet. It's been on the back burner but never acted upon. Maybe this summer??? :)
Don't forget pix!!!!! :cheers:
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The bow drill is one way I've never tried yet. It's been on the back burner but never acted upon. Maybe this summer??? :)
Don't forget pix!!!!! :cheers:
When i get around to it I'll try to remember pics. Since I dont ever seem to get around to making the different parts needed to do it. Maybe I can find a decent kit to give it ago. I got a idea there will be more smoke than fire in the beginning. Like G said. :D
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I've made a bow drill set and got tons of thick smoke and lots but no coal. I also tried using bamboo and same thing, lot of smoke and charing but no coal. I am going to continue to give it a go till I get FIYA!
I've used the plow method ( I think thats what its called ) and nothing :face palm:.
Regardless its been fun.
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Have you considered starting a fire with one hand. Most of your items will work but you need to practice, especially with your weaker hand. Those one handed Ferro Rods are also nice.
The parabolic, the magnifying glass and the glycerin/permanganate should work left handed, I have made fire with each of those repeatedly.
Not counting the lighter and matches of course.
I won't be happy until I've mastered some form of friction fire lighting.
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G have you ever used a fire piston to start a fire? I have not used one and am curious as to how well they work.
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G have you ever used a fire piston to start a fire? I have not used one and am curious as to how well they work.
Hi David
I have, in a shop :D
The stuff comes from South Africa, they have several kits with the central theme of primitive fire making - was VERY expensive.
Since I have a machinist for a best friend I bought so brass rods and we made our own.
2 problems - couldn't find the right size O-ring, and the shaft of the plunger bent during testing.....
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G have you ever used a fire piston to start a fire? I have not used one and am curious as to how well they work.
I have an it worked pretty well. I have it in my camping gear just for fun. There are nice inexpensive ones on the bay that I've meant to pick up at some point.
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,57019.msg1026291.html#msg1026291
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Thanks A. The only one I'd seen in the past was very expensive so didnt consider it at the time. It's good to see cheaper one's out there now.
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Thanks A. The only one I'd seen in the past was very expensive so didnt consider it at the time. It's good to see cheaper one's out there now.
+1. I wouldn't mind trying one too. Thanks for Sharing :cheers:
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The bow drill is one way I've never tried yet. It's been on the back burner but never acted upon. Maybe this summer??? :)
Don't forget pix!!!!! :cheers:
MY BEST FIRE KITS LMAO :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :o :o :o :o :o :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8D28gvkjc
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
Just realized we can solve both problems with mine by drilling the hole bigger and used the brass rod used for the body to make a thicker plunger.......then we should be able to get O-rings as well...... :salute:
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
Nice TG :tu:
Its not the most practical way to get fire but it sure is a fun and neat way to do it.
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I don't know if I posted this before...Firesteel matches. I use slivers of fatwood, which can be blown out and used several times. Spent matchsticks, twigs and birthday candles can be lit with a bit of cotton. Fatwood and candles are waterproof and PJ cotton balls are fairly water resistant. Handy for utility lighting when you don't need to start a campfire.
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Sulfur Matches or Spunks...lit with charcloth.
Flint and Steel candlebox made from a candy tin and shotshell base socket.
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Cool kits spork!
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Sulfur Matches or Spunks...lit with charcloth.
Flint and Steel candlebox made from a candy tin and shotshell base socket.
Really nice kit Spork :tu:
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Here's my fire kit , missing is my Magnesium stick , Numyth fire piston and bow drill which my nephew has on a scouting campout(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160201/80c62d2008b60c9a4fda010a6ea854f7.jpg)
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Thanks for the pics and great ideas, now I need another bag :facepalm:
...or something
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Sulfur Matches or Spunks...lit with charcloth.
Flint and Steel candlebox made from a candy tin and shotshell base socket.
Really nice kit Spork :tu:
Great kits Spork. The candy tin is terrific.
Sweet kit Kmanct.
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
Nice collection of Fire Pistons. How would you rate them?
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I had some time offline so I put together a simple Vic Fire Sheath with a Swedish Firesteel and pocket bellows.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Fire%20Sheath_zpst0awrlx4.jpg)
Attached some views below...
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Nice Robert ! looks like that sheath was made for that :tu:
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Nice Robert ! looks like that sheath was made for that :tu:
Thanks Steve!! :salute: It has some room for a bit of fatwood or inner tube pieces as starting fuel. I'm thinking about what to add. :think:
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Nice kit!
I'd suggest drinking straws full of dryer lint or cotton and petroleum jelly. The large sized straws that come with thick milk shakes or slush drinks work well (once cleaned!).
You can also leave the striker behind. The back edge of the saw blade will do just fine.
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Nice kit!
I'd suggest drinking straws full of dryer lint or cotton and petroleum jelly. The large sized straws that come with thick milk shakes or slush drinks work well (once cleaned!).
You can also leave the striker behind. The back edge of the saw blade will do just fine.
Thanks Dave!!!! :salute: Some great ideas too!!! :tu:
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Nice kit SG!
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Thank you David!!! :cheers:
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
Nice collection of Fire Pistons. How would you rate them?
I'm sorry for this late response but I missed your question.
There are two fire pistons in that photo,my home-made version with a brass barrel and an aluminum rod with a cabinet knob for the handle and the Numyth Vulcan.They both work well but the Vulcan is far superior as far as machine work and construction.It also comes apart for easier cleaning and has a compartment for storage.
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Here are some of the tools I use for creating fire.One of the fire-pistons is my homemade version.
Nice collection of Fire Pistons. How would you rate them?
I'm sorry for this late response but I missed your question.
There are two fire pistons in that photo,my home-made version with a brass barrel and an aluminum rod with a cabinet knob for the handle and the Numyth Vulcan.They both work well but the Vulcan is far superior as far as machine work and construction.It also comes apart for easier cleaning and has a compartment for storage.
There was another post about the Vulcan. Leaning towards getting that. Thanks toolguy :cheers:
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You're welcome.
Yes,it's on sale at Campsaver.com.
http://www.campsaver.com/vulcan-fire-piston-v2
Good luck.
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You're welcome.
Yes,it's on sale at Campsaver.com.
http://www.campsaver.com/vulcan-fire-piston-v2
Good luck.
Got it today :ahhh Looks very nice.
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All these firekits look so nice :ahhh I finally sat down and read this thread all the way through :tu: So many new ideas so little time :cry: :D
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Nice fire kits guys!
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Cleaning up and restocking some F&S kits today
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I put this kit together with a non-traditional homemade theme. Something I might have put together as a kid from found “stuff”
Pouch is made from a worn out pair of surplus pants, waxed. Large Kiwi shoe polish tin, broken file striker. Burning glass in a pillow ticking pouch. I dipped the bottom ends of the matches in sulfur…either end can be lit with an ember.
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Great kits spork!
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That is a nice kit Spork.
That's us mobile
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Here are our fire kits.
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Nice firekits Spork :salute:
Nice firekits toolguy :salute:
Here are our fire kits.
What all is in your kit toolguy?
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Nice firekits Spork :salute:
Nice firekits toolguy :salute:
Here are our fire kits.
What all is in your kit toolguy?
The fire-kit in the center photo contains the following:
On the left are two containers of waterproof matches.
In between those is a windproof butane lighter.
Behind those,in another compartment, are long burn matches.
On the opposite side:
At the bottom is a home made fire piston.
Above that from the left are waterproof fire fuses.
Next is an Exotac ferrocerium rod with a spare rod.
Next to that is a tin of char-cord.
In the zipper pouch behind these items is another fire piston by Numyth.
The second fire-kit contains virtually the same items with one exception, instead of two fire pistons it has two different ferrocerium rods and one fire piston.
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Nice kits toolguy :tu: I like to have multiple kits too. I am building my 3rd fire kit. Calling it my deluxe kit. Waiting for one more piece to arrive and I will post some pics.
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Nice kits toolguy :tu: I like to have multiple kits too. I am building my 3rd fire kit. Calling it my deluxe kit. Waiting for one more piece to arrive and I will post some pics.
Thanks but I can only claim one fire-kit,the other one belongs to my wife.
I ordered some Fresnel lenses to add another dimension to our fire-kits.
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Well the Fresnel lenses arrived today.I was curious whether these paper thin plastic lenses performed as advertised.
Here are pictures that illustrate the relative ease at which these lenses can create fire.It took a mere two to three seconds for these lenses to burn leaves and dry bark.
These pictures aren't the best for proving the fire making capability of these lenses but it should illustrate that it's possible.The second picture shows the smoke emanating from the burned leaf.
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The key I find to burning glasses is finding tinder that will produce flame or a usable ember. Its easy to burn holes in paper and fry ants...but it is a little harder to get actual fire.
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Well the Fresnel lenses arrived today.I was curious whether these paper thin plastic lenses performed as advertised.
Here are pictures that illustrate the relative ease at which these lenses can create fire.It took a mere two to three seconds for these lenses to burn leaves and dry bark.
These pictures aren't the best for proving the fire making capability of these lenses but it should illustrate that it's possible.The second picture shows the smoke emanating from the burned leaf.
Nice addition :tu: Glad it works. I have had no luck with quarter size and smaller. Even with the concentrated beam aimed at a matchstick head.
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My 3 fire kits. The one on the right is my latest kit. Also my most expensive :o Paired them with a card MT with a magnifying glass and a MT with a decent saw. Googled and added prices to show how cheap and how expensive a kit can be.
Beater Kit - $8 (4 deep)
Bic Lighter
Match Box
Mag and Flint
Pet Balls - Home Made
UST Card MT
Fury MT
Cost with MTs ~ $20
Extreme Weather Kit - $30 (5 deep)
Crocs Lighter
UCO Stormproof Matches
UST Blastmatch
Wetfire Starters
Tool Logic Survival Card MT
LM Sidekick
Cost with MTs ~ $75
Luxury Kit - $75 (4 deep with Spirit, 5 deep with Signal)
Numuth Vulcan Piston
Exotac Nano Striker
Zippo Windproof Lighter
Char Cloth - Home Made
Victorinox Swisscard Lite
LM Signal/Victornix Spirit
Cost with MTs ~ $200+
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Nice bunch of fire starting stuff rishardh :tu: Also thanks for the list it always help me when I am looking for more stuff :D
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...I have had no luck with quarter size and smaller...
I've done it with a SAK lens and cattail fluff. It requires strong sun and time. I slowly built up a charred spot in compressed fluff...too much airspace will prevent an ember from forming. When it reaches the point where it can sustain itself, you will hear the seeds pop and see the charred fluff spreading. If you look closely, you can see a wisp of smoke centered on the dark spot.
I've also charred cattail fluff for flint and steel. It's very fragile, so you have to put it down and cast sparks into it instead of holding it on the flint.
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Nice bunch of fire starting stuff rishardh :tu: Also thanks for the list it always help me when I am looking for more stuff :D
Your welcome :cheers: I've got a few things seeing it here too.
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...I have had no luck with quarter size and smaller...
I've done it with a SAK lens and cattail fluff. It requires strong sun and time. I slowly built up a charred spot in compressed fluff...too much airspace will prevent an ember from forming. When it reaches the point where it can sustain itself, you will hear the seeds pop and see the charred fluff spreading. If you look closely, you can see a wisp of smoke centered on the dark spot.
I've also charred cattail fluff for flint and steel. It's very fragile, so you have to put it down and cast sparks into it instead of holding it on the flint.
Thanks for sharing your method. I guess with the right materials it's possible. Will try this when our neighborhood cat shows up on a sunny day again :D
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...I have had no luck with quarter size and smaller...
I've done it with a SAK lens and cattail fluff. It requires strong sun and time. I slowly built up a charred spot in compressed fluff...too much airspace will prevent an ember from forming. When it reaches the point where it can sustain itself, you will hear the seeds pop and see the charred fluff spreading. If you look closely, you can see a wisp of smoke centered on the dark spot.
I've also charred cattail fluff for flint and steel. It's very fragile, so you have to put it down and cast sparks into it instead of holding it on the flint.
Thanks for sharing your method. I guess with the right materials it's possible. Will try this when our neighborhood cat shows up on a sunny day again :D
It will only work if you can get him to stay still long enough :rofl:
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...I have had no luck with quarter size and smaller...
I've done it with a SAK lens and cattail fluff. It requires strong sun and time. I slowly built up a charred spot in compressed fluff...too much airspace will prevent an ember from forming. When it reaches the point where it can sustain itself, you will hear the seeds pop and see the charred fluff spreading. If you look closely, you can see a wisp of smoke centered on the dark spot.
I've also charred cattail fluff for flint and steel. It's very fragile, so you have to put it down and cast sparks into it instead of holding it on the flint.
Thanks for sharing your method. I guess with the right materials it's possible. Will try this when our neighborhood cat shows up on a sunny day again
It will only work if you can get him to stay still long enough :rofl:
:D
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I was able to light very fine wood shavings with the same method of building up char using the larger burning glass of a Hudson Bay tobacco tin. I think this can be accomplished with a Fresnel lens as well.
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I call this my "Need Fire Now!" kit...heavy on the tinder/firestarters. Primary ignition is flame based.
-Small Sistema box
-Storm matches and lighter
-4 Coghlan's fuel tabs, 3 plain large cotton balls
-7 cotton dental rolls dipped in a mixture of wax and Vaseline
-8 Coghlan's Tinder tabs, candy-wrapped in wax paper to prevent them from sticking together.
-Sheet of aluminum foil (12" x 12") to keep tinder off wet ground or to place on top of a fire lay in the rain.
There is a third form of ignition in this kit...cotton balls, dental rolls and the tinder tabs can all be sparked with an empty lighter.
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Another great fire thread that deserves a :bump: I need to get some stuff together and take some pics :cheers:
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:tu: Nice bump. My kits have changed a lot. I am of two minds. 1. Fire needed NOW. I use a lighter and something flammable. My choice is similar to Sporks, those fire tabs. 2. Storm proof matches and again a flammable fire tabs. 3. Big Arse Fire Steel and flammable tabs. I do however like to make fire with natural material for fun. I'll have to get up some pics for this thread.
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Sounds like some good changes and some nice gear, Aloha :like:
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Just got this in the mail this past evening :cheers: it is the Emergency Fire Kit by Zippo, EFK for short :tu: it came well packaged and after a bit of admiring, I cut it out if it's plastic prison :D it is very well made and the Zippo striker is as you would expect any Zippo product to be with lots of sparks :like: and you can take it apart to reveal the water tigh compartment for your tinder :salute: the tinder is some type of cotton that has been treated with a chemical (I don't know which one) to make it light easily and burn for several minutes :dd: I am looking for drier weather out so I can play with this some :ahhh
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Looks good so far. Set up a tarp and test in the wet conditions :pok: lets see how this works in less than conditions :D
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I am already standing out in the cold, wet and windy conditions right now but in a rain suit, working :ahhh
I would probably die if i was out in the woods right now trying to build a fire :D
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I am already standing out in the cold, wet and windy conditions right now but in a rain suit, working :ahhh
I would probably die if i was out in the woods right now trying to build a fire :D
Do not die Poncho, I repeat do not die. Stay warm buddy and as dry as you can. Y'all still lay brick in the rain huh?
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We have been laying block on a foundation last couple weeks and today we have been pouring grout :D it has stopped raining for now so we are building scaffold to go in up with a stair well :tu:
I will try my best not to die though ;) :D
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We have been laying block on a foundation last couple weeks and today we have been pouring grout :D it has stopped raining for now so we are building scaffold to go in up with a stair well :tu:
I will try my best not to die though ;) :D
Survival is 90% mindset. Stay strong :whistle:
So have you had a chance to try it out in better conditions?
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We have been laying block on a foundation last couple weeks and today we have been pouring grout :D it has stopped raining for now so we are building scaffold to go in up with a stair well :tu:
I will try my best not to die though ;) :D
Survival is 90% mindset. Stay strong :whistle:
So have you had a chance to try it out in better conditions?
I am pretty stubborn so it might be hard to kill me :D
I have sparked the lighter some but not lit any of the tinder yet :salute: but I will try to 8n the next while :cheers: been on a bit of a vacation so haven't tried anything with fire this week :whistle: :D
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What a great little thread! :like:
I’ll have to post my kit tomorrow :tu: :cheers:
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What a great little thread! :like:
I’ll have to post my kit tomorrow :tu: :cheers:
:like:
:popcorn:
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I posted this in a different thread, but I'll add it here, too.
Just made myself a wallet sized fire-starter. One of those 'just in case' things that it is easy to have with you at awl times.
One cotton ball with a lot of vaseline rubbed in.
Cotton ball stretched, pulled, and smashed to fit in a very small plastic envelope made from a standard baggie.
(https://i.imgur.com/gcmvBuh.jpg)
Baggie sealed with some duct tape:
(https://i.imgur.com/xG1Ubkm.jpg)
This fits very nicely in one half of my wallet. It does add a bit of bulk, but is still relatively thin.
Had to try it out:
I took half of the cotton and 'fluffed' it up, as much as I could. Then dropped in in the snow next to a Firefly ferro rod (fits in a Vic 58mm toothpick slot):
(https://i.imgur.com/MEtqbdc.jpg)
It took me two strikes to get the cotton lighted and burning.
(https://i.imgur.com/WACLEfX.jpg)
The little bunch of cotton burned well for about a minute (I didn't time it, but it just kept burning.). It burned long enough o burrow down into the snow.....
(https://i.imgur.com/UrVlZsi.jpg)
I've got a new batch in my wallet now. :D
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So is it only 1 cotton ball, or what :think:
:like: :like:
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So is it only 1 cotton ball, or what :think:
Yes. The wallet kit is only one (1) cotton ball, to save space.
For the test burn, I used half of that. So.....my kit should be good for two (2) fires. At least. ;)
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I :like: it :D :tu:
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I posted this in a different thread, but I'll add it here, too.
Just made myself a wallet sized fire-starter. One of those 'just in case' things that it is easy to have with you at awl times.
One cotton ball with a lot of vaseline rubbed in.
Cotton ball stretched, pulled, and smashed to fit in a very small plastic envelope made from a standard baggie.
(https://i.imgur.com/gcmvBuh.jpg)
Baggie sealed with some duct tape:
(https://i.imgur.com/xG1Ubkm.jpg)
This fits very nicely in one half of my wallet. It does add a bit of bulk, but is still relatively thin.
Had to try it out:
I took half of the cotton and 'fluffed' it up, as much as I could. Then dropped in in the snow next to a Firefly ferro rod (fits in a Vic 58mm toothpick slot):
(https://i.imgur.com/MEtqbdc.jpg)
It took me two strikes to get the cotton lighted and burning.
(https://i.imgur.com/WACLEfX.jpg)
The little bunch of cotton burned well for about a minute (I didn't time it, but it just kept burning.). It burned long enough o burrow down into the snow.....
(https://i.imgur.com/UrVlZsi.jpg)
I've got a new batch in my wallet now. :D
Very very nice ideal and great photos! :like: :tu:
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Great idea and thanks for the pics, Nix :like: I have seen the firefly ferro rods but don't know where they are sold :think: I guess I need to look them up and see if I need one ::) :D