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Title: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 20, 2008, 11:07:13 AM: I am trying to find out how many copies were made for each of the 100 years models:

Victorinox 100 year Anniversary 1884-1984:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7222/18841984ny9.th.jpg) (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18841984ny9.jpg)
http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18841984ny9.jpg
There should be more then 10,000
The classic isn't numbered only the Champion is.
(I got the duo set and if I am not mistaking there is a Spartan model as well)

Victorinox Centennial Edition 1891-1991:
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4160/18911991sh7.th.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18911991sh7.jpg)
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18911991sh7.jpg
Thats easy because there is a document with the knife that says 5000 copies.

Victorinox 100th Anniversary of the swiss army knife 1897-1997:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8963/18971997bz3.th.jpg) (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18971997bz3.jpg)
http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18971997bz3.jpg
There should be more then 15,000.
(I got Spartan and SwissChamp)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Dunc on March 20, 2008, 11:31:27 AM: Sorry I cant help with the numbers but thats a nice collection you got there .

Dunc
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 20, 2008, 02:11:42 PM: I've got the 1897-1997 sak, I hadn't seen the other ones :)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: J-sews on March 21, 2008, 02:34:48 AM: Yah, very nice SAM!

I imagine NutSAK might be able to answer your question. He's away at the moment, but should be back on the air in a day or two.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 10:05:38 AM: Thanks for the complements :)
I am a small time collector and this is "my thing" - I like anniversary knives.

I will wait for NutSAK and hope he know the numbers, it is just I feel like I have to know the amount.
I saw 1897-1997 Spartan with number 15,000 and something.
My 1884-1984 Champion is #10259

EDIT: I found the picture I was looking for - the one that contains the Spartan 1884-1984 (I am not mistaking - it is a Spartan right ?)
http://www4.gvsu.edu/boermac/images/SAK/rvb.jpg
Took it from that post
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,3960.0.html
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Swiss Man on March 21, 2008, 09:34:30 PM: I was just talking to Def today about the different 100th Anniversary knives (I thought there was two).

I have the 1897-1997 Spartan. Tomorrow I am getting the 1891-1991 for $35.00.

All I need is a 1884-1984. Does anyone have an extra? I figured since I have Def credit card # money is no object.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 21, 2008, 10:19:13 PM: Quote from: Swiss Man on March 21, 2008, 09:34:30 PM

All I need is a 1884-1984. Does anyone have an extra? I figured since I have Def credit card # money is no object.
Quickly man, while El Defo's at work Pm me his credit card number :D
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: J-sews on March 21, 2008, 10:20:19 PM: Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Swiss Man on March 21, 2008, 09:34:30 PM

All I need is a 1884-1984. Does anyone have an extra? I figured since I have Def credit card # money is no object.
Quickly man, while El Defo's at work Pm me his credit card number :D

Perhaps he should post it here on the forum for easy reference? :D
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 21, 2008, 10:20:47 PM: Quote from: J-sews on March 21, 2008, 10:20:19 PM
Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Swiss Man on March 21, 2008, 09:34:30 PM

All I need is a 1884-1984. Does anyone have an extra? I figured since I have Def credit card # money is no object.
Quickly man, while El Defo's at work Pm me his credit card number :D

Perhaps he should post it here on the forum for easy reference? :D
Definatly make it a sticky ;)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 11:35:30 PM: Quote from: Swiss Man on March 21, 2008, 09:34:30 PM
I was just talking to Def today about the different 100th Anniversary knives (I thought there was two).

I have the 1897-1997 Spartan. Tomorrow I am getting the 1891-1991 for $35.00.

All I need is a 1884-1984. Does anyone have an extra? I figured since I have Def credit card # money is no object.

There is the classic one on ebay now days and even cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330219996809
about 15h to go and only 9.99$
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 21, 2008, 11:36:37 PM: Someone should definatley bid on that one then :)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 11:39:15 PM: Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 11:36:37 PM
Someone should definatley bid on that one then :)

I would buy my wife would kill me. already bought 3 knives in two months (thats alot for me).
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 21, 2008, 11:42:40 PM: Quote from: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 11:36:37 PM
Someone should definatley bid on that one then :)

I would buy my wife would kill me. already bought 3 knives in two months (thats alot for me).
But it looks so close to the other one's, I'm sure you'd get away with it :D
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 11:46:14 PM: Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: SAAM007 on March 21, 2008, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: micky d on March 21, 2008, 11:36:37 PM
Someone should definatley bid on that one then :)

I would buy my wife would kill me. already bought 3 knives in two months (thats alot for me).
But it looks so close to the other one's, I'm sure you'd get away with it :D
Hahaha, that what I did with the last one but I got caught. Well happy bidding and I really think someone should bid that one becuase it is great price.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: NutSAK on March 24, 2008, 02:13:20 PM: Quote from: J-sews on March 21, 2008, 02:34:48 AM
Yah, very nice SAM!

I imagine NutSAK might be able to answer your question. He's away at the moment, but should be back on the air in a day or two.

I don't know the production numbers of those knives, unfortunately. You may want to contact James Christian from his website here: http://e-webtechnologies.com/sak/ I think that might be your best bet to find that kind of information.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 24, 2008, 10:42:23 PM: Quote from: NutSAK on March 24, 2008, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: J-sews on March 21, 2008, 02:34:48 AM
Yah, very nice SAM!

I imagine NutSAK might be able to answer your question. He's away at the moment, but should be back on the air in a day or two.

I don't know the production numbers of those knives, unfortunately. You may want to contact James Christian from his website here: http://e-webtechnologies.com/sak/ I think that might be your best bet to find that kind of information.

OK thanks (and welcome back).
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on March 24, 2008, 10:55:33 PM: Let us know what you find out mate :)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 25, 2008, 12:52:22 AM: Quote from: micky d on March 24, 2008, 10:55:33 PM
Let us know what you find out mate :)
sure. I hope I will find the answer.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on March 25, 2008, 11:19:23 AM: I contacted Jamie from SAKcollector.com (I took his email from WHOis)
He is a nice person, quick response but unfortunly he don't have that information.

Any suggestion on how to get those numbers or who to contact now ?
(or should I drop it ?)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: NutSAK on March 25, 2008, 12:51:15 PM: You're best bet at this point would be to contact the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Benner on March 25, 2008, 10:04:21 PM: Yeah, I would contact Vic themselves. Dunc has done this in the past and they have been very helpful.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on April 03, 2008, 02:34:09 PM: I am back with some answers :mail:
I message Victorinox.com and I got some answers:

Victorinox 100th Anniversary of the swiss army knife 1897-1997:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8963/18971997bz3.th.jpg) (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18971997bz3.jpg)
http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18971997bz3.jpg
1.3603.J97 (Spartan) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Offiziersmesser" 1997 = 52'510 copies
1.6794.J97 (SwissChamp) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Offiziersmesser" 1997 = 35'980 copies
And they put a link to this image as well:
http://b2b.victorinox.ch/A219/100%20years%20Swiss%20Army%20Knife.JPG

Victorinox 100 year Anniversary 1884-1984:
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7222/18841984ny9.th.jpg) (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18841984ny9.jpg)
http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18841984ny9.jpg
0.6203.JU (Classic) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Victorinox" 1984 - 41'300 copies
0.3603.JU (Tourist) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Victorinox" 1984 - 12'800 copies (I don't have one)
0.4603.JU (Tinker) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Victorinox" 1984 - 9'800 copies (I don't have one)
1.5793.JU (I think it is the Champion Plus) "Jubiläumsmesser 100 Jahre Victorinox" 1984 - 15'640 copies
And they put a link to this image as well:
http://b2b.victorinox.ch/A219/Logo%20100%20Jahre%20Victorinox.JPG

Victorinox Centennial Edition 1891-1991:
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4160/18911991sh7.th.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18911991sh7.jpg)
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18911991sh7.jpg
Thats easy because there is a document with the knife that says 5000 copies.
But for some reason they didn't sent any information about this one ???

OK and now for the intresting part:
Here is one I didn't know it exists:
1.3713.91 Jubiläumsmesser 700 Jahre Eidgenossenschaft 1991 - 30'580 copies
1.3603.91 Jubiläumsmesser 700 Jahre Eidgenossenschaft 1991 - 53'440 copies
0.6223.91 Jubiläumsmesser 700 Jahre Eidgenossenschaft 1991 - 25'730 copies
Images:
http://b2b.victorinox.ch/A219/700%20Jahre%20Eidgenossenschaft.JPG

Anyone know about those ?

And now I am have to get them as well (and the 1984 Tourist/Tinker as well).

If you got more information about those knives feel free to contact me.
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on April 03, 2008, 06:39:07 PM: Apart from the last one, sounds like Vic was typically through in there answer mate :)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: SAAM007 on April 03, 2008, 08:27:43 PM: Quote from: micky d on April 03, 2008, 06:39:07 PM
Apart from the last one, sounds like Vic was typically through in there answer mate :)
Yeah. I can't complain :) this is what I was looking for. The only bad part is now I want to get more knives lol
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on April 03, 2008, 10:40:42 PM: Thats no bad thing, just have them delivered to a friends house so you wife doesn't find out :D
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: I'm Still Bison on April 04, 2008, 04:12:21 AM: Quote from: micky d on April 03, 2008, 10:40:42 PM
Thats no bad thing, just have them delivered to a friends house so you wife doesn't find out :D
That's a myth..wives always find out,even before you do something >:( :( :D
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on April 04, 2008, 10:07:19 AM: Quote from: Bison56 on April 04, 2008, 04:12:21 AM
Quote from: micky d on April 03, 2008, 10:40:42 PM
Thats no bad thing, just have them delivered to a friends house so you wife doesn't find out :D
That's a myth..wives always find out,even before you do something >:( :( :D
Even when you divorced they still find out ::)
Title: Re: Victorinox 100 years number of copies
Post by: Swiss Man on April 05, 2008, 11:06:28 PM: If anyone ever runs across a 1884-1984 model, please pm me this is the only one that I need right now. Thanks