Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 04:39:22 PM
So to start this thread off, I will show my 2009 Hoyt Helix Olympic recurve to you folks. I shot a winter league once with it and beat out plenty of compound shooters. Yeah, they do not like that very much. >:D
At the time, I wanted medium level limbs as I wasn't going to compete at the International level. Thus, I got myself a pair of beautiful Hoyt Carbon 300 limbs. These limbs are very forgiving, accurate, and consistent.
Here is my Hoyt Helix riser in fire red flame with upgraded wooden grip. Those Carbon 300 limbs look great as well.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7651small_zpsa4e8cf8d.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7651small_zpsa4e8cf8d.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7652small_zps0fc741ea.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7652small_zps0fc741ea.jpg.html)
The bow is a beauty, and very comfortable to shoot.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7653small_zps5b788a81.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7653small_zps5b788a81.jpg.html)
For a sight, I re-purposed an older Toxonic right hand sight that I used on one of my other compounds, and bought myself a very nice 2X target scope with a fiber optic center dot.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7655small_zps55650774.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7655small_zps55650774.jpg.html)
Yes, that is a right handed sight, but works perfectly well flipped around for us lefties.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7656small_zps14af2ab1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7656small_zps14af2ab1.jpg.html)
At the time, i also bought a Donkers V stabilizer that works wonders in steadying the hand.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7657small_zps8c1fe134.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7657small_zps8c1fe134.jpg.html)
The longer the better it stabilizes...and one should try a bow with and without such a system. It truly makes a world of difference.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7658small_zps30f2ee0a.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7658small_zps30f2ee0a.jpg.html)
So that is a quick tour of my Olympic style recurve. :salute:
Let us see how far we can take this topic. :D
Post by: pfrsantos on February 24, 2015, 04:51:09 PM
:tu: :tu:
You can use a scope in a recurve in official competition?!
???
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 05:10:50 PM
The scope is on because I was last competing in a club winter league. I have various other sight pins that do not have glass in them.
The limbs are 40 pounds, and are 70" long. :salute:
Post by: JAfromMn on February 24, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
You have a very nice Bow Chako . All nice and put away snug in a, awesome hard case :drool:
sweet accessories too :tu:
I'd get back into archery if it wasn't sooooooooo expensive.
Post by: pfrsantos on February 24, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
The arrows are 30" Radial X Weave STL Hunters 200s.
The scope is on because I was last competing in a club winter league. I have various other sight pins that do not have glass in them.
The limbs are 40 pounds, and are 70" long. :salute:
They seem smaller. Your draw length is 30''? That makes your limbs +/- 44lbs. Not bad!
:salute: :cheers:
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
I came across this web site...
http://libertyarchery.com/
...and thought to myself that looked intriguing. I bet that would make the perfect outdoor 3D range bow.
I then found this video at the time.
Review: The "Liberty I" Ultra Compact Compound Bow vs. "Razor Edge" and "Slingbow" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aP_gKlQd-s#ws)
I just knew I would get one. Mine is a 60 pound 28.82" draw Liberty One which I purchased in 2011. Each bow is specially made for each archer. These are more personalized than a regular bow..hence the weird draw length.
I also got the soft case for it at the time, and am happy I did. It doesn't fit the sight, but the zippered case does make for a nice tight fit, even if the sight sticks out somewhat. It has not been an issue in transporting it back and forth to the range.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7660small_zps73743b92.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7660small_zps73743b92.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7661small_zps69bdd298.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7661small_zps69bdd298.jpg.html)
So the first thing I did was to upgrade the plastic sight with a much better one. It also needed some serious stabilization to combat the recoil, as I found too much of it going into my wrists. I found and bought the strangest but most effective stabilizer for it. In fact, I joke about how butt ugly both the bow and the stabilizer are. It was almost as if they were made for each other.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7662small_zps050a5e01.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7662small_zps050a5e01.jpg.html)
The Liberty One is very unique. You hold this on an angle, as evinced by the angled grip. It takes some getting used to...but with some practice, it feels very natural. There is a bit of unlearning and learning if you switch between this and a regular compound often.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7663small_zps006f7ef1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7663small_zps006f7ef1.jpg.html)
The Hostage arrow rest did come from the factory and is a much needed style for use with this bow...as the geometry at play here are extreme.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7664small_zps3e35d7e1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7664small_zps3e35d7e1.jpg.html)
Here is a look from the front looking backwards towards that Hostage arrow rest. Note the ugly stabilizer in front.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7665small_zpsd31c6c48.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7665small_zpsd31c6c48.jpg.html)
The original factory installed sights did fit in the case, but I found them very cheap and plasticky. I upgrade them to a nice Bone Collectors Apex lighted hunting sights. Not only did they extend my sight plane for added accuracy, they light up in dark forested locations...basically where the 3D outdoor range is.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7667small_zps813dc92d.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7667small_zps813dc92d.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7671small_zpsbd2ace75.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7671small_zpsbd2ace75.jpg.html)
This bow is a little beast, with its overly large and fairly aggressive cams. The large cams are a necessity, as anything smaller would make the string pinch at the arrow knock unusable.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7672small_zpsa90317d2.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7672small_zpsa90317d2.jpg.html)
Here is a closer look at the almost non-existent riser, angled grip, arrow rest, and stabilizer.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7673small_zps6d9b55e4.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7673small_zps6d9b55e4.jpg.html)
The bow came with a full set of instructions, a rope device to allow you to install a new string in the field...seeing that this bow won't fit most bow presses anyhow, and I still have the cheap plastic factory sight.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7674small_zpse190b426.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7674small_zpse190b426.jpg.html)
Because of the string geometry, you have to use a mechanical device with the Liberty One. You also need to use a nock loop as using the mechanical release on the string would push your arrows off of the string. I found a full length arm guard to be very useful at times with this bow...as you will have the occasional arm slap if you fiddle with that weird angled grip. In case you were wondering, that orange thing is an arrow puller. I found that I needed one of these to remove my arrows from foam targets, as this little bow packs quite a wallop.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7675small_zps1cc339a5.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7675small_zps1cc339a5.jpg.html)
And one last parting shot of that ugly stabilizer. What makes this one so effective is the movable weight on the end. I have tried quite a few different types of bow stabilizers and found this one to work the best. Bonus in that it sort of fits the bow in the looks department as well.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7676small_zps2dfc6f07.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7676small_zps2dfc6f07.jpg.html)
Now with this one, I shoot 28 1/2" Carbon Revolution Ultra Lights with an ultra stiff spine. These arrows are 5.5 grains per inch. I also use 1 1/2" stiff vinyl vanes with no helix.
I have found this bow to be a dream in the bush. It is also a real conversation starter as most folks have never seen one before. With the above arrow configuration, I have found that I have a very flat trajectory out to around 40-45 yards. Past that distance, and the arrow dramatically takes a nose dive. This means I can make the odd range error and I normally won't get penalized for it. At longer ranges however, I do need to be more accurate as there is less leeway due to the trajectory characteristics of the bow and arrow combination I am using.
So if you are looking for a neat little bow to terrorize the local 3D range, and/or hunt small game in brush ect...you should give the Liberty One a look over.
The biggest downside of the Liberty One is that it is custom made for you, meaning if you plan on reselling it later, you will have to find someone with the same draw length ect as you have.
Post by: JAfromMn on February 24, 2015, 06:41:59 PM
Its Pretty awesome Chako :tu:
Post by: Megan on February 24, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
Any photos from your archery practice of the bow in use? From shoots?
Action photos are always great.
I am apparently going to learn how to make a recurve bow from scratch this year. So excited.
Post by: pfrsantos on February 24, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
I thought someone posted some information about that Liberty bow in my welcome thread? Or something like that?
Any photos from your archery practice of the bow in use? From shoots?
Action photos are always great.
I am apparently going to learn how to make a recurve bow from scratch this year. So excited.
You should use yew, it's stronger...
:whistle:
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
As for photos...surprisingly enough, I never mixed archery with photography...probably because I din't want to haul around a camera while shooting.
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
This one is fairly decked out, and is a tack driver. When I had this one dialed in, I was in serious danger of Robin Hooding my arrows...which is never a pleasant thing to do in reality as it cost you a lot of money each and every time it happens. Reason why you move to 5 single spot targets as opposed to only one.
Yes, the last time I took this one out to the range was in 2013. I try to use one bow for a season if possible to remain consistent.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7678small_zps56eb2633.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7678small_zps56eb2633.jpg.html)
I went all out on the sight for this one...a lovely Sure Loc in matching red hardware.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7679small_zpsa9009279.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7679small_zpsa9009279.jpg.html)
APA is a Canadian bow manufacturer. They make some really interesting bows. For example, the riser itself contains a built in hand carrier, broadhead wrench, knock adjuster, blade sharpener, and a pair of fang like protrusions that allow you to hang your bow on a tree limb quite nicely.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7685small_zpse2885c57.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7685small_zpse2885c57.jpg.html)
Their limb graphics on their target bows are also nice.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7680small_zps95e6407c.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7680small_zps95e6407c.jpg.html)
The model number is engraved into the limb pockets. I took a look on their website and they no longer make this model.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7681small_zpsfc791c06.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7681small_zpsfc791c06.jpg.html)
I like to use a 4X Viper Archery scope on this bow.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7682small_zps493804e2.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7682small_zps493804e2.jpg.html)
Like my Hoyt recurve, I also went all out on a V stabilizer.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7683small_zps373e0687.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7683small_zps373e0687.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7684small_zps2c6434d8.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7684small_zps2c6434d8.jpg.html)
To round the red is everything set, a nice Scott target mechanical release.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7686small_zps0a26fdab.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7686small_zps0a26fdab.jpg.html)
For arrows, I use the same ones that I use for the recurve, except these feature vinyl fletching.
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 08:53:44 PM
By today's standards it is a beast. The Martin Onza came out in the 80s and disappeared around the early 1990's. We started archery a few years later, so at the time, it was a not that old used bow that my Dad picked up because he loved Martin.
Now when I first started archery, folks did not have carbon arrows, so archers tried to eek out every ounce of poundage they could muster to get faster and flatter trajectories. This Onza is no different in that it came with a built in overdraw, meaning you could shoot lighter shorter arrows and still keep your spine stiffness where you needed it to be. Likewise, this is an 80 pound bow. Plenty of older bows used by 3D target shooters of the time had high poundage. These days, with modern construction and technology, nobody need to be shooting such high poundage. But back in those days, large overdraws and high poundage was the key to remaining competitive.
Anyways, I had forgotten that I was bored one day back in 94 and decided to paint the case. I am surprised it still looks so good.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7702small_zps7c5e314d.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7702small_zps7c5e314d.jpg.html)
Still got a complete set of vintage Easton Autumn Orange XX75 2113 aluminum arrows for it. They haven't made these in years.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7699small_zpsb06f770d.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7699small_zpsb06f770d.jpg.html)
A quick look online also shows they no longer make this bad boy sight. This is a double pin Toxonic target sight. This allows you rotate the sight 180 for straight pin or scope.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7695small_zps382a6e13.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7695small_zps382a6e13.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7696small_zps86f81c27.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7696small_zps86f81c27.jpg.html)
Here is the built in overdraw.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7694small_zps6710950f.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7694small_zps6710950f.jpg.html)
At the time, Martin had these beautiful laser engraved wooden decorations on their bows.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7693small_zps23f4e765.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7693small_zps23f4e765.jpg.html)
Beautiful wooden grip.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7692small_zps67af0321.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7692small_zps67af0321.jpg.html)
This is such a classy bow, right down to the limb graphics.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7690small_zps848f59e3.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7690small_zps848f59e3.jpg.html)
And here is the bow in its entirety.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7687small_zps28a8e755.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7687small_zps28a8e755.jpg.html)
So although I gave away most of my older gear, I am keeping this one. :salute:
Post by: Chako on February 24, 2015, 09:01:38 PM
http://www.archeryhistory.com/index.php
One of the best Archery history websites around.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 24, 2015, 09:27:09 PM
Yes, that would have been me.
As for photos...surprisingly enough, I never mixed archery with photography...probably because I din't want to haul around a camera while shooting.
I see a hundred places on those bows that one could easily mount a GoPro!
Def
Post by: Megan on February 24, 2015, 09:38:20 PM
Yes, that would have been me.
As for photos...surprisingly enough, I never mixed archery with photography...probably because I din't want to haul around a camera while shooting.
I see a hundred places on those bows that one could easily mount a GoPro!
Def
Oh great. Is that what we're doing this weekend? It is too cold.
Post by: PTRSAK on February 25, 2015, 12:40:11 AM
Also a set of more appropriate carbon arrows for it.
Should dig them out for a laugh and some photos.
Post by: Chako on February 25, 2015, 03:10:05 AM
:D
Post by: Chako on February 25, 2015, 01:52:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4TVh1F46kY
Mistakes in archery and how to prevent them...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2BVF-T8A0
A slideshow that may require you to pause it..but not bad for historical content...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13emtsUHdWw
Post by: Megan on February 25, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
I currently shoot just a Matthews compound bow. Debating on whether I am going hunt or not this year.
I desperately need to pick up some more arrows.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on February 25, 2015, 03:25:23 PM
I also need to get more arrows. Unless you manage a really good shot the neighbors' kids always manage to run away.
Def
Post by: Megan on February 25, 2015, 05:04:39 PM
:P
Post by: Noa Isumi on February 25, 2015, 05:08:08 PM
I was shooting that Jennings as my hunting bow in early 2k but gave it up after an unrelated injury made wrist compression painful. I didn't really get back to shooting archery for about 6 years due to other distractions.
Then My home state changed its hunting laws to allow crossbows for all seasons except archery. :facepalm:
I picked up the Horton as a replacement For a PSE Copper Head that tore itself apart...who would put standard string cleats on a crossbow. The potential for the string to roll on the flight groove and twist itself off the cable is quite disastrous. That's why I switched to a model that attached the string to the wheels directly.
The Jaguar and Razorback Are more recent.
I got back into archery after moving To a new state and closer to a big city and realizing the cost of shooting ranges tripled cutting my trigger time, but the archery ranges were both cheaper and more useful than they were living in the out sticks were you could shoot in your yard.
Post by: JAfromMn on February 25, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
I also have no idea what I want for a bow now.
I have been drooling over a Matthews solo cam but I'm totally unsure now after doing some thinking.
.
I don't hunt anymore .
I'm thinking a target bow may be a better fit for me.
Post by: Chako on February 25, 2015, 07:04:36 PM
Second thing is to find a bow that fits you. More so than firearms, bows have to personally fit you for draw length, peep sight attachment, knock settings, shooting styles ect.
Which leads to the type of bow you are looking for. Bows that allow you to shoot shorter arrows, maybe by use of an overdraw, or a reflex riser design (bow goes towards archer) tend to be a little harder to shoot as any wrist movement will magnify itself at your arrow rest. On the up side, these type of bows tend to be faster overall. Deflex risers (the riser goes away from the archer) are great on target bows as they are the most forgiving, but at the cost of speed.
On top of that, you get different cams on compounds. Wheels are great for target shooters where smoothness of draw and little to no stacking is beneficial. On the other end of the spectrum, you have severe cams that stack plenty but also store more energy. They won't make your job of target bulls-eye shooting any easier, but that extra speed will help out on the 3D range. Mind you, not good trying to pull an extreme cam whilst cold up in a tree stand hunting. Like everything else, it can be done but will require more practice.
Which ultimately leads to the type of bow overall. So far, I am only talking about compounds. There are also recurves and long bows. Recurves are a nice compromise as the curved limbs give you that bit of stacking, but also that bit of zip off the arrow rest. They also tend to reduce hand shock unlike stick bows like long bows. It all depends on what you are looking for to do with it?
I know plenty of archers that have gotten tired of the technical compound and moved onto a much simpler Traditional style such as a recurve or longbow. Some will go all the way and not even use a sight...preferring to eschew all that can go wrong like broken cables, lost nuts and bolts, etc. I myself have a PSE Sequoia flatbow (type of longbow) and a Scythian horse bow for those times when I just want to have good fun shooting. With practice, you can get very very good with one of these...then you get the pleasure of showing off to those guys saddled with all that tech. >:D
Bows are like everything else, you will find it hard to have just the one. Most will have a compound and some sort of simpler wood bow. Nothing wrong with that Matthews solo cam. At least the single cam will eliminate timing issues (When you need two cams to roll together to maximize potential energy into kinetic energy). The downside to a single cam...they tend to be a little slower than double cam bows on average.
If you want to get into archery for the fun of it, I would suggest you get a nice recurve or longbow, a dozen arrows, maybe an arrow rest or off the shelf, and some sort of shooting glove or tab. That would be the cheapest way to get into it. If you are looking for a hunting compound, that single cam would do the trick. For first time buyers, I suggest buying an already made beginner kit as that would be the cheapest. Mind you the best advice would be to visit a few local archery clubs, archery shops, etc and get plenty of info. Just remember that the shops and clubs may be somewhat biased.
Post by: JAfromMn on February 25, 2015, 07:32:50 PM
I think the last bow I bought I got about 1993.
Thanks for all the info Chako
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 25, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
Would love to get a simple compound bow.
Last bow I owned was a Fred Bear Whitetail 2 back in the 80's. Wish I still had it.
Post by: Syncop8r on February 25, 2015, 10:31:47 PM
Post by: PTRSAK on February 26, 2015, 03:59:04 AM
:worthless:
:D
Okay, now you have to promise not to laugh. This was pretty good gear 20 years ago. Not top shelf by any means, but not complete rubbish either.
well, the sight was a bit crap, a Toxonics bar with an old Arten sight and a cheapie scope. Hey, it worked.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1036_zpsx9zqqc7j.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1037_zpsmvvkerbw.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1039_zpscuplwl4p.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1040_zpspmyxvcam.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1046_zpslun8nwus.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1042_zpsjbpvkuhw.jpg)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1044_zpsl6kvypa0.jpg)
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 26, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
It is the bow I am thinking about getting soon.
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 12:41:37 PM
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4&feature=youtu.be
My opinion is in line with the second video...just saying. :salute:
Post by: pfrsantos on February 26, 2015, 12:54:05 PM
:worthless:
:D
Okay, now you have to promise not to laugh. This was pretty good gear 20 years ago. Not top shelf by any means, but not complete rubbish either.
well, the sight was a bit crap, a Toxonics bar with an old Arten sight and a cheapie scope. Hey, it worked.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s640/Peter_Thorpe/IMG_1036_zpsx9zqqc7j.jpg)
Laugh?! I still have a Gold Medalist (Hoyt TD4) and some Hoyt wood limbs.
:D :D :D :D
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 01:40:44 PM
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2015, 02:57:16 PM
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 03:15:47 PM
As for the shooting, I am also guilt of that of late. I didn't shoot all of 2014, and with my jump into firearms, not sure when I will be next able to shoot...unless they allow archery at the gun range. :think: :)
Post by: Megan on February 26, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
I would be surprised if yours didn't.
I am shooting a Matthews Mission Craze.
I never need the best of the best. I need something super adjustable, stable and solid.
I shoot it very well, my groupings are fantastic and it shows at shoots.
The best folks I come across at shoots are not shooting the most expensive tricked out bows.
I am drawing around 40+lb right now. But the more I practice the more I draw ;)
AT 40lbs I can go after bears this year if I choose to do that.
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11002611_10100562420133289_5186054888893873493_n.jpg?oh=3be52d9f41be6967a63094b4da52218c&oe=554E2FC8)
Look how big the cams are haha. So adjustable. Which is perfect for me as I'm really increasing muscle this year and my draw has improved significantly. My stature is smaller too which is another reason I chose this bow. Works well for me.
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 03:52:20 PM
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zGnxeSbb3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbqz_07dW4&feature=youtu.be
My opinion is in line with the second video...just saying. :salute:
Totally agree. His skill is undeniably impressive, but his claims are bold and seem (at the very least) hard to credit. I'd have more respect for the guy if he had more respect for all other archers.
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
A lot of clubs have specific nights for archery.Makes my bent piece of wood look rather.....medieval. :)
I would be surprised if yours didn't.
I am shooting a Matthews Mission Craze.
I never need the best of the best. I need something super adjustable, stable and solid.
I shoot it very well, my groupings are fantastic and it shows at shoots.
The best folks I come across at shoots are not shooting the most expensive tricked out bows.
I am drawing around 40+lb right now. But the more I practice the more I draw ;)
AT 40lbs I can go after bears this year if I choose to do that.
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11002611_10100562420133289_5186054888893873493_n.jpg?oh=3be52d9f41be6967a63094b4da52218c&oe=554E2FC8)
Look how big the cams are haha. So adjustable. Which is perfect for me as I'm really increasing muscle this year and my draw has improved significantly. My stature is smaller too which is another reason I chose this bow. Works well for me.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/DSCF1514.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Shooting-1.jpg)
Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 05:45:27 PM
I do have this nice PSE Sequoia flatbow however.
Here it is on display.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7719small_zpsc3qp7z1e.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7719small_zpsc3qp7z1e.jpg.html)
The bow also has a built in arrow shelf, and leather wrapped grip.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7716small_zpsnutkbvnp.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7716small_zpsnutkbvnp.jpg.html)
The markings on the inside of the limbs.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7717small_zpsvmnk26np.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7717small_zpsvmnk26np.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7718small_zpskpzuiimy.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7718small_zpskpzuiimy.jpg.html)
Post by: Grathr on February 26, 2015, 07:30:31 PM
I shoot mostly traditional bows like Gareth.
I have a traditional ash bow made from a single stave, very similar to Gareths.
A traditional flat bow, also made from ash, by me.
A Grozer schytian laminated riders bow from hungary.
A chineese traditional laminated longbow.
And a old Bear compound bow.
Ill have take some pics of them some day.
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Post by: enki_ck on February 26, 2015, 07:45:10 PM
Great thread and a lot of nice bows! :tu:
I shoot mostly traditional bows like Gareth.
I have a traditional ash bow made from a single stave, very similar to Gareths.
A traditional flat bow, also made from ash, by me.
A Grozer schytian laminated riders bow from hungary.
A chineese traditional laminated longbow.
And a old Bear compound bow.
Ill have take some pics of them some day.
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I'd love to see that one. How do you like it compared to the other ones?
I'm part Hungarian and have a Hungarian last name so I'm a bit drawn :P to those. :D
Post by: Grathr on February 26, 2015, 07:56:58 PM
Great thread and a lot of nice bows! :tu:
I shoot mostly traditional bows like Gareth.
I have a traditional ash bow made from a single stave, very similar to Gareths.
A traditional flat bow, also made from ash, by me.
A Grozer schytian laminated riders bow from hungary.
A chineese traditional laminated longbow.
And a old Bear compound bow.
Ill have take some pics of them some day.
Sent from a device made from star dust using tapatalk
I'd love to see that one. How do you like it compared to the other ones?
I'm part Hungarian and have a Hungarian last name so I'm a bit drawn :P to those. :D
Firstly Grozer makes excellent bows. I have not met an archer who has had something bad to say about his bows.
Heres a link to his website: http://www.grozerarchery.com
My bow is very smooth. It feels like shooting a #35 bow, when it is actually a #44 bow, while the arrow flies with the trajectory of a #44 bow.
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Post by: Chako on February 26, 2015, 08:04:32 PM
Post by: pfrsantos on February 26, 2015, 08:54:59 PM
Great thread and a lot of nice bows! :tu:
I shoot mostly traditional bows like Gareth.
I have a traditional ash bow made from a single stave, very similar to Gareths.
A traditional flat bow, also made from ash, by me.
A Grozer schytian laminated riders bow from hungary.
A chineese traditional laminated longbow.
And a old Bear compound bow.
Ill have take some pics of them some day.
Sent from a device made from star dust using tapatalk
I'd love to see that one. How do you like it compared to the other ones?
I'm part Hungarian and have a Hungarian last name so I'm a bit drawn :P to those. :D
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608013528158505415&pid=15.1&P=0)
Post by: ryan1835 on February 26, 2015, 11:23:55 PM
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2015, 11:27:23 PM
Great thread and a lot of nice bows! :tu:
I shoot mostly traditional bows like Gareth.
I have a traditional ash bow made from a single stave, very similar to Gareths.
A traditional flat bow, also made from ash, by me.
A Grozer schytian laminated riders bow from hungary.
A chineese traditional laminated longbow.
And a old Bear compound bow.
Ill have take some pics of them some day.
Sent from a device made from star dust using tapatalk
I'd love to see that one. How do you like it compared to the other ones?
I'm part Hungarian and have a Hungarian last name so I'm a bit drawn :P to those. :D
Firstly Grozer makes excellent bows. I have not met an archer who has had something bad to say about his bows.
Heres a link to his website: http://www.grozerarchery.com
My bow is very smooth. It feels like shooting a #35 bow, when it is actually a #44 bow, while the arrow flies with the trajectory of a #44 bow.
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I've shot a few of Grozer's bows and have to agree. Easy to pull, but super sharp release makes for some excellent shooting. :tu:
Post by: Chako on February 27, 2015, 02:47:18 AM
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7720small_zpsubzbgemx.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7720small_zpsubzbgemx.jpg.html)
This is a 50 pounder.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7721small_zpsetvcjirg.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7721small_zpsetvcjirg.jpg.html)
The handle is leather wrapped.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7723small_zpseeyqbvjl.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7723small_zpseeyqbvjl.jpg.html)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7724small_zpsifcuirmu.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7724small_zpsifcuirmu.jpg.html)
Bonus shot of some of my arrows.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7728small_zpsnd1lolfa.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7728small_zpsnd1lolfa.jpg.html)
In a back quiver that I made a few years ago.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7729small_zpsxotxjzlj.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7729small_zpsxotxjzlj.jpg.html)
And of Gracy as she wondered why I was taking photos of the quiver.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo002/IMG_7732small_zpsseb2xey1.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo002/IMG_7732small_zpsseb2xey1.jpg.html)
Post by: PTRSAK on February 27, 2015, 03:32:06 AM
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2015, 07:08:03 AM
Ouch
The kid brought the bow with him to the hospital? :rofl:
Guess he was pretty proud of his shot.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2015, 07:14:53 AM
I am thinking about something like this one.
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/trophy-taker-spring-steel-1-rest-micro-adjust.html
A lot of folks on the interwebs seem to like it.
Post by: Chako on February 27, 2015, 12:34:08 PM
As for the photo, I think it is fake. I asked myself how he got there with the arrow like that?
Post by: pfrsantos on February 27, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
(http://images.lancasterarchery.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/325x/13db83bec1fbd986744c31150a1b2502/2/3/2350061_3.jpg)
Better vane clearance and more adjustable according to arrow spine.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
I prefer something like this:
(http://images.lancasterarchery.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/325x/13db83bec1fbd986744c31150a1b2502/2/3/2350061_3.jpg)
Better vane clearance and more adjustable according to arrow spine.
That is one of the ones I was looking at. It is not a drop away rest though right?
Found another bow that is in the running to be the one. Bear Archery Cruzer.
Post by: pfrsantos on February 27, 2015, 07:02:59 PM
I prefer something like this:
(http://images.lancasterarchery.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/325x/13db83bec1fbd986744c31150a1b2502/2/3/2350061_3.jpg)
Better vane clearance and more adjustable according to arrow spine.
That is one of the ones I was looking at. It is not a drop away rest though right?
Found another bow that is in the running to be the one. Bear Archery Cruzer.
No. It has a small spring. Before you draw, with the weight of the arrow, the rest is lowered. When you draw, it moves up. When you shoot, it's not fixed so it doesn't offer a "solid" obstacle against the arrow.
The drop away kind simply moves up when you draw/pull it and falls when you release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSHf_GXqBg
The string you see attaches to the bow string. When you draw, you pull the rest up. Release the bowstring and gravity lets the rest drop again.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
So the spring rest type is pretty easy to tune? Leaning to getting one of this time at the moment.
Post by: pfrsantos on February 27, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
The drop away seems overly complicated to me.
So the spring rest type is pretty easy to tune? Leaning to getting one of this time at the moment.
Just like everything else, easy when you know how. It works a little like a berger button for recurves, compensating the arrow flexing when shot.
There's plenty of info on how to adjust it. Make some test shots, make some adjustments, trial and error, you'll soon understand what the changes alter in the shot.
:salute: :tu:
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 27, 2015, 08:11:19 PM
Was thinking about how much money I can save not having to buy bullets every time I want to go shooting. Of course we all know archery is not really about saving any money just spending it on different stuff lol.
Post by: Chako on February 28, 2015, 12:58:58 AM
With that said, the drop away rest eliminates any vane clearance issues you may have with the other one. It also eliminates wear and tear on those arms. Surprisingly enough, they wear out quick if you shoot a lot. Mind you they are easy to buy replacements for.
With that said, that one is also a very solid rest. Everything has pros and cons to them.
As for cheaper, yes it is once you stop wrecking arrows. It was expensive my first 2 times at the 3D range when I first started. I think I wrecked almost a dozen arrows both times. :facepalm:
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 28, 2015, 05:21:34 AM
That other rest is a good one. I have used various rests like that for years.
With that said, the drop away rest eliminates any vane clearance issues you may have with the other one. It also eliminates wear and tear on those arms. Surprisingly enough, they wear out quick if you shoot a lot. Mind you they are easy to buy replacements for.
With that said, that one is also a very solid rest. Everything has pros and cons to them.
As for cheaper, yes it is once you stop wrecking arrows. It was expensive my first 2 times at the 3D range when I first started. I think I wrecked almost a dozen arrows both times. :facepalm:
So which style do you like the best?
Seems from what you are saying you like the drop away more? If so why?
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 28, 2015, 06:07:47 AM
JR
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 28, 2015, 08:17:24 AM
Wow, that's some fancy stuff. I always liked archery, just never really got into it. I started off when I was like 12 with bear cub compound bow :think: but that was pretty much it, the only other one I had I think was a white tail? But again I never really got into it, it's kinda funny cause my wife and I started watching a tv show yesterday and yet it's Arrow, lol.
JR
My first bow was a Whitetail II. Heavy POS but it never let me down.
Post by: Chako on February 28, 2015, 01:40:57 PM
Two prong rest:
Pros:
- Bullet proof design, highly durable.
- Good arrow clearance.
- Solid V to hold your arrow in place.
- Great rest for fatter arrows.
Cons:
- Can be fiddly to tune as there is a spring involved.
- Prongs will wear out. I know quite a few archers who put beads of epoxy on the high wear areas.
- Nock placement is crucial, as you can have vanes hitting your prongs.
- Narrow carbon arrows means the prongs are closer together, increasing the likelihood of fletch clearance issues.
Drop away rest:
Pros:
- Will drop away meaning less interference from rest as soon as you let the arrow go.
- Less interference means increased accuracy.
Cons:
- Mechanism requires a string to be attached to your cables.
- Added complexity.
- Tends to be more expensive.
The 2 prong rest is a fantastic hunting rest. It has the capability of holding an arrow in place, and is durable. The drop away is a better target rest in my opinion. With that said, I know plenty of folks that target with a 2 prong. It truthfully is a very popular design. They are accurate. I just prefer the drop away because it gives me that little bit of an advantage by minimizing contact of the arrow upon release.
I have seen rest issues with everything. For example, I have shot variations of that 2 prong rest for decades. I have seen where the prongs get lose and arrows fly all over the place because the prongs slowly started to spread apart. That one had me guessing what was wrong for a good 30 minutes. It is a mechanical disadvantage of that rest. Likewise, I have seen drop away rest fail from that cable coming lose. The drop away rest can come with a variety of launchers out there. Some of which completely suck if you plan to use it for hunting as they hold your arrow on a tiny V. Any yaw of the bow and the arrows tend to roll off of those.
Frankly Harley, go with what your most comfortable with, and meets your needs.
Post by: Singh on February 28, 2015, 07:06:17 PM
some old pics, but it's all I got right now:
Osage/bamboo composite with cane grip
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/boosage%20riser%20three%20fourths%20tree_zpsm6uy8iuo.jpg)
A nice little 64" osage hunting bow with cane grip and green leather strike plate.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/osgehuntb_zpsquplkdbt.jpg)
The top one is a hickory/lemonwood (degame)/black walnut composite bow. Bottom one is a white oak longbow I made for my wife. You can see the size difference in the handles. Handles are wrapped in cane which I like..it's weatherpoof and won't wear out.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/comparison_zps94knio2s.jpg)
osage kiddy bow
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_15832bds_zpsjssfnmt0.jpg)
Osage kiddy bow handle with floppy leather arrow rest.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_1577_zpsz5iv2j2z.jpg)
Made some cedar arrows
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/arrows6_zps55bda61c.jpg)
I also have some vintage recurves. Here's a 1960s Herter's target bow, 69" long
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/herter%20three%20fourths%20back_zpstyb0ma8l.jpg)
and the 69" Herter's again with a 64" Ben Pearson and 62" Pearson:
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/3%20vintage%20recurves_zpsw6nx2bym.jpg)
and another nice Ben Pearson
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/f%20gc%20riser%20views3_zpshkknhjia.jpg)
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on February 28, 2015, 07:26:50 PM
This is my own personal opinion...
Two prong rest:
Pros:
- Bullet proof design, highly durable.
- Good arrow clearance.
- Solid V to hold your arrow in place.
- Great rest for fatter arrows.
Cons:
- Can be fiddly to tune as there is a spring involved.
- Prongs will wear out. I know quite a few archers who put beads of epoxy on the high wear areas.
- Nock placement is crucial, as you can have vanes hitting your prongs.
- Narrow carbon arrows means the prongs are closer together, increasing the likelihood of fletch clearance issues.
Drop away rest:
Pros:
- Will drop away meaning less interference from rest as soon as you let the arrow go.
- Less interference means increased accuracy.
Cons:
- Mechanism requires a string to be attached to your cables.
- Added complexity.
- Tends to be more expensive.
The 2 prong rest is a fantastic hunting rest. It has the capability of holding an arrow in place, and is durable. The drop away is a better target rest in my opinion. With that said, I know plenty of folks that target with a 2 prong. It truthfully is a very popular design. They are accurate. I just prefer the drop away because it gives me that little bit of an advantage by minimizing contact of the arrow upon release.
I have seen rest issues with everything. For example, I have shot variations of that 2 prong rest for decades. I have seen where the prongs get lose and arrows fly all over the place because the prongs slowly started to spread apart. That one had me guessing what was wrong for a good 30 minutes. It is a mechanical disadvantage of that rest. Likewise, I have seen drop away rest fail from that cable coming lose. The drop away rest can come with a variety of launchers out there. Some of which completely suck if you plan to use it for hunting as they hold your arrow on a tiny V. Any yaw of the bow and the arrows tend to roll off of those.
Frankly Harley, go with what your most comfortable with, and meets your needs.
Thanks for the detailed response Chako. Very informative.
Drop away does not seem to bad as far as tuning goes. Plus the lack of contact is very nice.
Now to figure out what sight system to go with. :pok:
Post by: Chako on March 01, 2015, 12:40:03 AM
Like the rest, up to personal likes and dislikes.
If you have built in fine adjustments for windage and elevation, that is a bonus. Most dedicated target sights have those built in. usually, you will have a course adjustment to quickly move your pin up and down, and then fine adjustments up and down and in and out to zero it nicely.
Hunting sights tend to have several pins for various yardages instead of the one single pin on a dedicated target sight. Hunting sights also tend to have fiber optic pins and/or a built in light to illuminate your pins.
Dedicated target sights as seen on my gear usually do not come with a pin. That option is left wide open to you, and the variety of pins and scopes is large. That is an added cost to a dedicated target sight.
Hunting sights have the pins built in, and tend to be generally less expensive...but that is a general statement. Prices for both can vary a lot.
If you plan on shooting any outdoor 3D ranges, you will want a hunting sight. You can do it with a single pin..but the act of adjusting your sight up and down will annoy you eventually...I think. Like everything else, I know folks who do that with a dedicated target sight and have no issues. Me, I would rather just not fiddle with my sight at each shot.
Some of the better hunting sights have fine adjustments for windage and elevation. Maybe not as convenient as the overly largish knobs found on a dedicated sight, but some do have that. Those models may require hex keys or something similar. Hunters frown upon a possibly moving sight in the field...so those type of sights tend to have lock down features.
The best sight, much like the rest, is the one you like. Best bet is to see a few at a local archery shop and go from there...that is when you get home of course. :)
Post by: Megan on March 03, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
I mainly do 3D comp shoots.
I'd actually like a serious target sight. They're big and weird looking.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 03, 2015, 09:12:52 PM
They're big and weird looking.
So a little bit like Chako? :pok:
What model is your three pin Megan?
Pretty sure I do not want a target sight yet do to having to fiddle with it for different ranges and since it is just for fun target shooting for the time being.
The Hogg line of sights seem very well made.
Post by: Megan on March 03, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
Post by: Gareth on March 04, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
I've been making selfbows and wood composites for over 20 years.
some old pics, but it's all I got right now:
Osage/bamboo composite with cane grip
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/boosage%20riser%20three%20fourths%20tree_zpsm6uy8iuo.jpg)
A nice little 64" osage hunting bow with cane grip and green leather strike plate.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/osgehuntb_zpsquplkdbt.jpg)
The top one is a hickory/lemonwood (degame)/black walnut composite bow. Bottom one is a white oak longbow I made for my wife. You can see the size difference in the handles. Handles are wrapped in cane which I like..it's weatherpoof and won't wear out.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/comparison_zps94knio2s.jpg)
osage kiddy bow
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_15832bds_zpsjssfnmt0.jpg)
Osage kiddy bow handle with floppy leather arrow rest.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_1577_zpsz5iv2j2z.jpg)
Made some cedar arrows
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/arrows6_zps55bda61c.jpg)
I also have some vintage recurves. Here's a 1960s Herter's target bow, 69" long
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/herter%20three%20fourths%20back_zpstyb0ma8l.jpg)
and the 69" Herter's again with a 64" Ben Pearson and 62" Pearson:
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/3%20vintage%20recurves_zpsw6nx2bym.jpg)
and another nice Ben Pearson
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/f%20gc%20riser%20views3_zpshkknhjia.jpg)
That's very impressive mate. :salute:
Post by: Singh on March 06, 2015, 01:19:49 PM
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 06, 2015, 03:37:42 PM
Seems like a killer deal.
Post by: JAfromMn on March 06, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
I've been making selfbows and wood composites for over 20 years.Impressive Craftsmanship.
some old pics, but it's all I got right now:
Osage/bamboo composite with cane grip
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/boosage%20riser%20three%20fourths%20tree_zpsm6uy8iuo.jpg)
A nice little 64" osage hunting bow with cane grip and green leather strike plate.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/osgehuntb_zpsquplkdbt.jpg)
The top one is a hickory/lemonwood (degame)/black walnut composite bow. Bottom one is a white oak longbow I made for my wife. You can see the size difference in the handles. Handles are wrapped in cane which I like..it's weatherpoof and won't wear out.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/comparison_zps94knio2s.jpg)
osage kiddy bow
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_15832bds_zpsjssfnmt0.jpg)
Osage kiddy bow handle with floppy leather arrow rest.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_1577_zpsz5iv2j2z.jpg)
Made some cedar arrows
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/arrows6_zps55bda61c.jpg)
I also have some vintage recurves. Here's a 1960s Herter's target bow, 69" long
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/herter%20three%20fourths%20back_zpstyb0ma8l.jpg)
and the 69" Herter's again with a 64" Ben Pearson and 62" Pearson:
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/3%20vintage%20recurves_zpsw6nx2bym.jpg)
and another nice Ben Pearson
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/f%20gc%20riser%20views3_zpshkknhjia.jpg)
Post by: Grathr on March 06, 2015, 06:48:55 PM
I've been making selfbows and wood composites for over 20 years.Impressive Craftsmanship.
some old pics, but it's all I got right now:
Osage/bamboo composite with cane grip
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/boosage%20riser%20three%20fourths%20tree_zpsm6uy8iuo.jpg)
A nice little 64" osage hunting bow with cane grip and green leather strike plate.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/osgehuntb_zpsquplkdbt.jpg)
The top one is a hickory/lemonwood (degame)/black walnut composite bow. Bottom one is a white oak longbow I made for my wife. You can see the size difference in the handles. Handles are wrapped in cane which I like..it's weatherpoof and won't wear out.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/comparison_zps94knio2s.jpg)
osage kiddy bow
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_15832bds_zpsjssfnmt0.jpg)
Osage kiddy bow handle with floppy leather arrow rest.
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/IMG_1577_zpsz5iv2j2z.jpg)
Made some cedar arrows
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/arrows6_zps55bda61c.jpg)
I also have some vintage recurves. Here's a 1960s Herter's target bow, 69" long
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/herter%20three%20fourths%20back_zpstyb0ma8l.jpg)
and the 69" Herter's again with a 64" Ben Pearson and 62" Pearson:
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/3%20vintage%20recurves_zpsw6nx2bym.jpg)
and another nice Ben Pearson
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/sx975/f%20gc%20riser%20views3_zpshkknhjia.jpg)
+1 Very impressive!
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Post by: NKlamerus on March 08, 2015, 02:35:45 AM
Matthews Solocam.
72Lbs draw with 86% Let Off. (Once drawn, I only hold roughly 10 pounds)
Using a Tru-Glow 5 pin sight. With a Whisper Biscuit.
36" Maxima Weight Forward Carbon arrows with 100 grain tips and 2" Blazer Vanes. I also use lighted Knocks.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/07/d9ddf4c828cf7f0b26aae8e237c6028c.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/07/49aa6726892dd5aacec6d9580f82866b.jpg) Your looking at Lighted Pins. I will never regret the hundred and fifty USD I spent on them alone.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/07/92085f50a87af29c37556d9e275e220d.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/07/dfe3dd34964eff6ea086ee70d65403b3.jpg) The workhorse. I feel extremely comfortable shooting a 55 yard shot in a 4" pattern. But I'd much rather shoot 25
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 08, 2015, 02:57:06 AM
Post by: Chako on March 09, 2015, 11:54:18 PM
NKlamerus, that looks like a good hunting setup.
Post by: NKlamerus on March 10, 2015, 01:40:35 AM
Nice bow Klammy.Thanks yall. I haven't been able to use it much unfortunately, I only really hunted PowerLines this year. Only shot at 2 bucks and both were walking broadside 275 yards away! Missed both of them!
shamus, those are beautiful bows. :tu:
NKlamerus, that looks like a good hunting setup.
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 10, 2015, 02:00:08 AM
That's a big dang bow!
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 10, 2015, 02:09:40 AM
(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/20150228_113942_zpsw7vcptfr.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/Multitooldotorg/media/20150228_113942_zpsw7vcptfr.jpg.html)
(http://gallery.multitool.org/pbmirror/20150228_113936_zpsu7txd0po.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/Multitooldotorg/media/20150228_113936_zpsu7txd0po.jpg.html)
Horrible and pathetic but smurfloads of fun to shoot. It's got all of about a ten or fifteen pound draw which makes it pretty safe. I'm sure if I tried hunting with it any arrow I fire will bounce harmlessly off squirrels.
But I can keep it in the bank of the Jeep and not worry about the fiberglass being adversely affected by temperature changes or throwing my work boots on it.
Def
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 10, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
Everyone is too busy shaking their heads at my pathetic bow that no one can comment? :P
Def
Post by: Gareth on March 10, 2015, 04:01:25 PM
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 10, 2015, 04:08:44 PM
I found this bow on Amazon where the seller claims it to be anywhere between 10 to 18 pounds, so a little more powerful than I thought. Even so I doubt I'll be entering any championships with it!
The nice thing about such a low power bow is that I can buy the cheapest arrows I can find and not worry in the slightest about breakage. Megan's bow chewed through some cheap arrows like they were nothing, while I could still fire damaged and broken arrows without a care in the world.
Until the horrible accuracy sent my last arrow into the woods, never to be seen again rather than into the snowbank I was aiming at.
Def
Post by: Grathr on March 10, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
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Post by: Grathr on March 10, 2015, 05:51:05 PM
I have been considering to get a cheap take down bow in the #40 range to take with me on short hikes and in the car on trips.
Have anyone got any experience with the Samick Red Fox?
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Post by: Chako on March 11, 2015, 02:53:19 AM
Samick makes good stuff. I have no experience with the Red Fox other than a photo I just found. It does look beautiful. :tu:
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 11, 2015, 12:03:24 PM
I have no expectations regarding range or power with this bow, that's for sure!
I found this bow on Amazon where the seller claims it to be anywhere between 10 to 18 pounds, so a little more powerful than I thought. Even so I doubt I'll be entering any championships with it!
The nice thing about such a low power bow is that I can buy the cheapest arrows I can find and not worry in the slightest about breakage. Megan's bow chewed through some cheap arrows like they were nothing, while I could still fire damaged and broken arrows without a care in the world.
Until the horrible accuracy sent my last arrow into the woods, never to be seen again rather than into the snowbank I was aiming at.
Def
Or you could just sell me some of your MT's and SAK's to fund your arrow supplies. :pok:
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2015, 10:07:54 PM
Def
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 12, 2015, 01:36:48 PM
I'm always open to offers..... :P
Def
I got some pics of me naked.
Post by: ducttapetech on March 12, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
Nate
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on March 12, 2015, 03:56:10 PM
I'm always open to offers..... :P
Def
I got some pics of me naked.
So do I. :P
Def
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:19:34 PM
Sounds like a bad offer......
Nate
How will you know if you do not look.
You have a PM. :tu:
Post by: ducttapetech on March 12, 2015, 05:21:18 PM
Nate
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:26:46 PM
I'm always open to offers..... :P
Def
I got some pics of me naked.
So do I. :P
Def
Don't feel like your so special I will pretty much send them to anyone.
Post by: Singh on March 16, 2015, 12:28:37 PM
I was just about too, honest. :D Actually I think you can have just about as much fun with a low poundage bow as with something stronger. Lower your expectations on range and hitting power and take pleasure in being accurate and it's every bit as good as anything else. :tu:
:tu:
Post by: Megan on March 16, 2015, 03:06:04 PM
I was just about too, honest. :D Actually I think you can have just about as much fun with a low poundage bow as with something stronger. Lower your expectations on range and hitting power and take pleasure in being accurate and it's every bit as good as anything else. :tu:
:tu:
Totally agreed. It is so much fun just to go out and shoot without any pressure.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 04, 2015, 10:08:26 PM
(http://rs70.pbsrc.com/albums/i86/HarleyXJGuy/1428177261.jpg~320x480?t=1428091040)
Post by: Grathr on April 04, 2015, 11:54:37 PM
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Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 05, 2015, 02:15:01 AM
Nice looking bow :)
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Thanks, not to expensive either like $460 with rekease and a dozen arrows.
Post by: Megan on April 25, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Post by: MadPlumbarian on April 25, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
JR
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on April 26, 2015, 01:54:25 AM
Def
Post by: MadPlumbarian on April 26, 2015, 02:14:00 AM
If you think she's a good shot with one eye, you should see her with the hair out of the way of the other one too!It's not having only one eye to focus, but the fact that the string could pull the hair! Ouch!!
Def
JR
Post by: NKlamerus on April 26, 2015, 03:34:39 PM
Reminds me of my one demise; glasses.If you think she's a good shot with one eye, you should see her with the hair out of the way of the other one too!It's not having only one eye to focus, but the fact that the string could pull the hair! Ouch!!
Def
JR
I usually have to bow hunt with contacts but before I knew I needed to, I took a shot at a 4 point and as soon as I pulled the trigger release I knew something was wrong.
The string grabbed the corner, pulled them off, and sent them like a Frisbee 25' down to the bottom of the treestand...................
And I didn't even get the deer?!?!
Hair would probably hurt more. But blind climbing out of a treestand wasn't fun either!!
Post by: Megan on April 26, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
My hair doesn't tend to get caught. Wearing a ponytail gives me a bit of a headache so I tend to always have my hair down.
Post by: Chako on April 27, 2015, 01:45:39 AM
Post by: Megan on April 27, 2015, 11:02:31 AM
When there isn't a camera on my face I hug my cheek as my anchor.
I do not have issues getting my hair caught. I prefer right under my cheek bone. I have since I used to compete with a recurve years ago.
It isn't weird for a release to snap back at your ear if that's your anchor point.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 27, 2015, 06:43:53 PM
Still trying to sort out a consistent anchor point with my compound bow and tru ball wrist strap release.
Anyone have any suggestions or places I could read up on this?
Post by: Chako on April 28, 2015, 12:06:20 AM
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 28, 2015, 06:28:01 AM
Post by: Megan on April 28, 2015, 12:07:52 PM
Ok sounds good, thanks.
With a peep sight and a release most folks anchor right below jawline.
Post by: SAK Guy on April 28, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 29, 2015, 04:49:40 AM
Ok sounds good, thanks.
With a peep sight and a release most folks anchor right below jawline.
But what is touching the jawline? Part of the thumb or a knuckle?
Post by: Chako on April 29, 2015, 05:39:42 AM
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=460840
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on April 29, 2015, 07:24:34 AM
Thanks.
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on May 06, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
Have not shot a bow since 1990 or so but did a ton of research while I was over in Afghanistan. Here is a picture of the bow at the Fort Hood archery range.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/HarleyXJGuy/Mobile%20Uploads/rps20150506_143359_328.jpg~original)
Bought the bow from a place in Iowa called Double Lung archery. Great price and customer service. Can't say enough about how good Steve and DLA is. Now came paper tuned and top pin set for 20 yards. This is my best target of the day.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/HarleyXJGuy/Mobile%20Uploads/rps20150506_143221_383.jpg~original)
Well the good news is the group is great and just off the target at 20 yards. Bad news is I was aiming at the spot way over on the right lol. Not all my groups were this good but they were consistent in the same area and not to far off this one in size.
All in all a great way to spend the lunch hour. Forgot to say the range is about two minutes from my work.
Post by: Megan on May 07, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Now you can start adjusting that sight!
Post by: Chako on May 07, 2015, 12:30:15 PM
Post by: HarleyXJGuy on May 08, 2015, 03:30:46 AM