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Title: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 15, 2007, 08:16:42 PM
So what do you reckon will happen then  ??? ??? 91mm oht, 85mm rangers, even more diverse tools ???

How do you see the future product line of these great companies developing ???
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Dunc on October 15, 2007, 08:39:01 PM
I think things will move slowly but surely . Victorinox has moved with the times by introducing an MP3 player , usb memory SAK , cybertool etc. While Wenger has introduced the new Ranger range . I still think their std range is and always will be the bread and butter but both companys do keep moving .

Dunc
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: M.TEX on October 15, 2007, 08:40:52 PM
  Well in my case I wish they could come up with a FIXED BLADE ....maybe something like a psk type,
or neck knife and why not a hunter style....I guess they don't want to show the tactical side of knives....

Im sure would be fun to see it.....
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 15, 2007, 11:03:02 PM
I hope both Sak manufacturers stick with the current line up, and keep pushing the envelope within that line up,

But I would like to see some of the features of the 111mm and 120mm, ie OH opening preferably in a slip jointed package :) :)

The legallity and friendly perception of there knives is something I dearly hope they wouldn't turn there back on and I very much doubt they ever would, but maybe a few more concetions to the modern world, with the addition of pocket clips and the like ???
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Viper on October 16, 2007, 01:17:17 AM
Pocket clips would definitely be limited to smaller models though. Imagine a pocket clip on an XLT! :ahhh
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: jock1 on October 16, 2007, 01:34:28 AM
There would be a good chance of it pulling the trousers off you if you could stand up in the first place
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Anthony on October 16, 2007, 02:49:52 AM
I agree about the pocket clips...not only for use in pockets (since some tools are pretty big), but even to clip the SAK onto a loop or strap inside of a backpack instead of having it drop to the bottom of the bag/side pocket.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 16, 2007, 03:08:08 AM
 I hope they expand their Alox line,and for Vic...make more one hand models of the 111mm line.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: J-sews on October 16, 2007, 05:26:00 AM
Pocket Clips, one hand opening, and Alox! Pinch me, I must be dreaming again! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/smileys/happy451.gif)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: J-sews on October 16, 2007, 05:28:57 AM
On a related note, did you fellers catch this interview with Rick Taggart, new president of Victorinox Swiss Army in the U.S?

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zq3xnBDW8

(Nothing against the guy, but I don't think he really said anything.....) ::)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 11:04:45 AM
On a related note, did you fellers catch this interview with Rick Taggart, new president of Victorinox Swiss Army in the U.S?

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6zq3xnBDW8

(Nothing against the guy, but I don't think he really said anything.....) ::)
Well he did promise to put multi's and Saks back up at the forefront so thats good at least :) :)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 16, 2007, 01:53:35 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he's going to put SAKs and multis at the forefront.  I am certain his original ideas and his efforts will be appreciated by the public, who obviously have no outlets for such things otherwise....   ::)

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 02:47:08 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he's going to put SAKs and multis at the forefront.  I am certain his original ideas and his efforts will be appreciated by the public, who obviously have no outlets for such things otherwise....   ::)

Def
He does suffer from the ''I diesease'' doesn't he ;D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 07:08:16 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he's going to put SAKs and multis at the forefront.  I am certain his original ideas and his efforts will be appreciated by the public, who obviously have no outlets for such things otherwise....   ::)

Def
He does suffer from the ''I diesease'' doesn't he ;D
...............and it appears you are suffering from the "I can't spell disease" disease.  :D :ahhh
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: ufox9al on October 16, 2007, 08:43:49 PM
...............and it appears you are suffering from the "I can't spell disease" disease.  :D :ahhh
Watch out, everybody, the Spelling Police are in town! Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Roadie on October 16, 2007, 08:52:33 PM
Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Shouldn't that be picking a fight with a silly moderator! :grin:
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 08:53:44 PM
Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Shouldn't that be picking a fight with a silly moderator! :grin:

That's 2 of us banned then Roadie.  :)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 16, 2007, 08:56:42 PM
Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Shouldn't that be picking a fight with a silly moderator! :grin:

That's 2 of us banned then Roadie.  :)
            I'll have both you know I rite and talk perfeckly gud inglish,and my amurican is even more gudder ;D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:26:22 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he's going to put SAKs and multis at the forefront.  I am certain his original ideas and his efforts will be appreciated by the public, who obviously have no outlets for such things otherwise....   ::)

Def
He does suffer from the ''I diesease'' doesn't he ;D
...............and it appears you are suffering from the "I can't spell disease" disease.  :D :ahhh
What can I say I maybe a moderator but I'm only human :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Now apologise or feel the full force of my fearsome moderational powers >:D >:D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:28:11 PM
Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Shouldn't that be picking a fight with a silly moderator! :grin:
And you too >:( ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:29:16 PM
Well, it's a good thing that he's going to put SAKs and multis at the forefront.  I am certain his original ideas and his efforts will be appreciated by the public, who obviously have no outlets for such things otherwise....   ::)

Def
He does suffer from the ''I diesease'' doesn't he ;D
...............and it appears you are suffering from the "I can't spell disease" disease.  :D :ahhh
What can I say I maybe a moderator but I'm only human :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Now apologise or feel the full force of my fearsome moderational powers >:D >:D

Let's have a duel.  :D
:jedi:

( I guess as you're the ninja, I'm the yellow thing. )
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:30:23 PM
Not very smart police, however, picking up a silly fight with a moderator!  :twak:   ;D

Shouldn't that be picking a fight with a silly moderator! :grin:

That's 2 of us banned then Roadie.  :)
            I'll have both you know I rite and talk perfeckly gud inglish,and my amurican is even more gudder ;D
See we have to sit a rigorous entrance exam before we are aloud to become mods >:(
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:32:40 PM
I am so LORD vader, right if i leave now on my push bike I should be at your house by dawn, you have till then to select your weapon >:( >:(

I demand satisfaction sir ;D ;D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:34:36 PM
I am so LORD vader, right if i leave now on my push bike I should be at your house buy dawn, you have till then to select your weapon >:( >:(

I demand satisfaction sir ;D ;D

I have my duelling glove ready!  ;D

You be careful on them roads the conditions are quite hazardous.  Don't want any accidents.  :D :P
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:38:43 PM
Fear not my riding skills are a bit better than my spelling :D

On the subject of future developments, what sak or multi would you have tattoo off?
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:42:03 PM
Fear not my riding skills are a bit better than my spelling :D

On the subject of future developments, what sak or multi would you have tattoo'd

 :D :D

Probably a spyderench.  That would fit in quite well on my sleave.

And I have a tarantula so it's a bit of double meaning. :nanadance:
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:43:53 PM
Fear not my riding skills are a bit better than my spelling :D

On the subject of future developments, what sak or multi would you have tattoo'd

 :D :D

Probably a spyderench.  That would fit in quite well on my sleave.

And I have a tarantula so it's a bit of double meaning. :nanadance:
Now that would look cool!

Where are you getting your smileys from mate ???
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:46:32 PM
Fear not my riding skills are a bit better than my spelling :D

On the subject of future developments, what sak or multi would you have tattoo'd

 :D :D

Probably a spyderench.  That would fit in quite well on my sleave.

And I have a tarantula so it's a bit of double meaning. :nanadance:
Now that would look cool!

Where are you getting your smileys from mate ???

Def used them in a previous post and I just remembered these 2.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 16, 2007, 10:47:27 PM
The dancing banana is on this site- it's just hidden.

Type : nanadance : without the spaces and you get :nanadance:

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:48:51 PM
nanadance oh yeah
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:49:52 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:50:56 PM
Ok maybe not ::) god I hate technosorcery >:( >:(
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
:nanadance:

: nanadance : but no gaps between : and the letters.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:53:36 PM
:nanadance:

: nanadance : but no gaps between : and the letters.
It doesn't help that my mouse is on it's way out and I can't cut n paste :cry: :cry:

ok here goes :nanadance:
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:54:04 PM
:nanadance:

: nanadance : but no gaps between : and the letters.
It doesn't help that my mouse is on it's way out and I can't cut n paste :cry: :cry:

ok here goes :nanadance:
Feel the swell of pride ;D ;D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 10:54:44 PM
Yeah you rock!!!  :cheers:  O0
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:56:25 PM
Yeah you rock!!!  :cheers:  O0
Yes I do ;D ;D

Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 16, 2007, 10:58:34 PM
Now do the same thing only with "bump" or "jedi" between the colons.

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 10:59:32 PM
Now do the same thing only with "bump" or "jedi" between the colons.

Def
:bump: :jedi:
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 11:01:52 PM
Now do the same thing only with "bump" or "jedi" between the colons.

Def
:bump: :jedi:
Well this thread has gone to hell in a hand basket ;D

Ok what would you like to see Vic or Wenger put on there tool's Benner mate ???
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 11:17:33 PM
Now do the same thing only with "bump" or "jedi" between the colons.

Def
:bump: :jedi:
Well this thread has gone to hell in a hand basket ;D

Ok what would you like to see Vic or Wenger put on there tool's Benner mate ???

A part where you could clip in your door key and fold it away like a blade.

Would make my like easier anyway!  :)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 16, 2007, 11:19:55 PM
That might be a bit too wishful thinking mate ;D

Mind you one of the miracle workers over on sosak might be able to help :)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 16, 2007, 11:27:28 PM
You can always hope!

I do hope they keep future 91mm SAK's looking the same. 
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 17, 2007, 01:19:42 AM
You mean similar to the Mercedes type fold out keys?

(http://www.leasingpartners.co.uk/key.gif)

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: 665ae on October 17, 2007, 07:08:26 AM
A part where you could clip in your door key and fold it away like a blade.

Would make my like easier anyway!  :)

Hey... I really like that idea!  I wonder how you could do it?
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 17, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
You mean similar to the Mercedes type fold out keys?

(http://www.leasingpartners.co.uk/key.gif)

Def

Yeah similar.

Basically a part that allows you to insert a Yale type key that can then fold away like a blade.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 17, 2007, 08:16:05 PM
You mean similar to the Mercedes type fold out keys?

(http://www.leasingpartners.co.uk/key.gif)

Def

Yeah similar.

Basically a part that allows you to insert a Yale type key that can then fold away like a blade.
I'm sure it could be done, it might stick out a bit on an 85mm or 91mm but both the 111 and 120mm should swallow the width of a key no problem :)
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 17, 2007, 08:40:29 PM
Depending on the type of key, it shouldn't be a big problem.  I could see a simple setup, similar to the blade holder on the Leatherman Surge doing a similar job.  I actually really like the idea, and I've been thinking seriously about it all morning!

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 17, 2007, 09:03:49 PM
Depending on the type of key, it shouldn't be a big problem.  I could see a simple setup, similar to the blade holder on the Leatherman Surge doing a similar job.  I actually really like the idea, and I've been thinking seriously about it all morning!

Def

You could go all out and instead of having a bunch of keys you could have say 4 or 5 in a sak.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on October 17, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
I am thinking it would be best to have a modular thing because everyone has a different number of keys.  For instance, I have one for the car, two for the house, one for a store I occasionally work at, and one for my in-law's house.  I have had cars in the past that have one, two and even three keys.

And those are just the standard sizes keys.  Add in the smaller ones I have and I have a few more...

Def
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: CQC-7 on October 17, 2007, 09:53:58 PM
I think that keys will eventually go the way of the dodo someday at least for cars anyway.  I believe that Lexus has a fingerprint recognition thingy that starts the car instead of a key.  It might still have a "just in case" key but I am not sure.   
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 18, 2007, 10:49:42 AM
That's quite possible, but I'd trust a simple key over some electronic finger print reader, but then I'm a self confesed ludite :D
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Benner on October 18, 2007, 01:25:20 PM
I think that keys will eventually go the way of the dodo someday at least for cars anyway.  I believe that Lexus has a fingerprint recognition thingy that starts the car instead of a key.  It might still have a "just in case" key but I am not sure.   

But what if I wanted my friend to use the car?  A lot easier to give him my key than my finger.  :)

I agree that they will eventually go this way.  But I do think that there will always be a key of some sort.  Just in case of a power failure or component failure.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: I'm Still Bison on October 18, 2007, 01:32:55 PM
I think that keys will eventually go the way of the dodo someday at least for cars anyway.  I believe that Lexus has a fingerprint recognition thingy that starts the car instead of a key.  It might still have a "just in case" key but I am not sure.   

But what if I wanted my friend to use the car?  A lot easier to give him my key than my finger.  :)
                      Some folks would rather give the finger than the key :D Biometrics are the  wave of the future,but,just sure as eggs are eggs,some smart thief will find ways around even the most sophisticated system.
Title: Re: Future direction of Victorinox and Wenger
Post by: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on October 18, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
They did on mythbusters :)