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Tool Talk => The Mod Squad => Topic started by: J-sews on March 09, 2009, 03:29:13 AM
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm4.jpg)
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Hehe.
"Build your own Powercut" coming up?
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Mike? :pok:
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That's right Bob you show them at SOG. :D You are really upset aren't you. :ahhh
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Oh Bob this is looking interesting , I will call it voiding 2 differant lifetime warrenties in one hit, project :P :D
Bob the Ace tools head , is there enough meat to drill for the SOG's bolts :think: :think:.
Keen to see the next part(s) Bob.
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Criminy! If the head is just held on by Chicago screws, why didn't SOG just sell replacement Powercut heads? Problem solved... ???
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clear as water :tu:
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You go for it mate :tu:
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GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO
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Go for it mate! :tu:
And when you get it to work, please make me one. :D
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Interested in seeing this one worked out. Good luck Bob. :tu:
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So we shoudl expect to see this one in what 9-10 months from now.
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I think we are on to something here.
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Would these heads go in there?
(http://www.sabertoothtools.com/images/multi-pliers-4in1.jpg)
http://www.sabertoothtools.com/multi-pliers.html
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Would these heads go in there?
(http://www.sabertoothtools.com/images/multi-pliers-4in1.jpg)
http://www.sabertoothtools.com/multi-pliers.html
That's a great idea! :D
Mike
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Ha, awesome!
Would be funny to send this thread to SOG if everything works out well :D
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Would these heads go in there?
(http://www.sabertoothtools.com/images/multi-pliers-4in1.jpg)
http://www.sabertoothtools.com/multi-pliers.html
Wow.
Okay, I'm putting my project on hold and ordering one of those first. That looks like it would be a heck of a lot better cutter head to start off with than the Ace brand cutter will be.
With the Ace cutters:
- the handles will need to be cut off obviously
- the handle stubs are not wide enough for the SOG pivot bolts, so I planned on heating the metal up and blacksmithing it wider
- need to drill holes through for the pivot bolts
- the entire cutter head is mush thicker than the SOG plier head. In order to fit properly about 1/8" (3mm) would need to be surface ground off both faces of the head
All of that could have been done, and may still need to be, but I'll check out the SaberTooth cutter head first. :)
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Makes sense Bob - they look ready to "plug and play" :D
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From memory, I don't think they will work, but aren't there separate heads available for some Gerber models?
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From memory, I don't think they will work, but aren't there separate heads available for some Gerber models?
There are indeed, but those Gerber heads pretty much only fit a Gerber. :-\
(http://www.gerber-tools.com/images/Gerber-multi-plier-650-evolution-tech-kit-large-22-01107.gif)
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Good luck Bob :salute:
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So we shoudl expect to see this one in what 9-10 months from now.
Don't think I didn't see this Loud >:( :twak: :D :D
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So we shoudl expect to see this one in what 9-10 months from now.
Don't think I didn't see this Loud >:( :twak: :D :D
::) :D
Good luck Bob hope everything works out for ya on this 1 :salute: :D
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So we shoudl expect to see this one in what 9-10 months from now.
That soon? :D
Mike
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Have you seen the quality of Bob's work? It's worth the wait! :)
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Is this going to be a "fixed" cutter head?
I can't see how the dia. cutter head will be able to turn inside out. :o
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Is this going to be a "fixed" cutter head?
I can't see how the dia. cutter head will be able to turn inside out. :o
The SOG pliers never actually go inside out. They reach maximum opening when the handles are 180 degrees opposite each other, then begin to close down again.
But still, any cutter head used must be able to open as far as the SOG plier jaws do. :-\
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go for it bob!
I bought the saber tooth tools
the cutter head is really thick. it will fit but there won't be room for the longer impliments like the knife. another problem is that although the head is thick the part with the holes for the screws is thinner than the sog so you will need some large spacers if you want to put it on a sog. I haven't looked at the size of the hole yet to determine if the sog screws will fit adequetly.
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go for it bob!
I bought the saber tooth tools
the cutter head is really thick. it will fit but there won't be room for the longer impliments like the knife. another problem is that although the head is thick the part with the holes for the screws is thinner than the sog so you will need some large spacers if you want to put it on a sog. I haven't looked at the size of the hole yet to determine if the sog screws will fit adequetly.
But it looks do-able eh? Great, I'll go ahead and order the Sabertooth tool. :salute:
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I hadn't read your thread until now. I am not sure the plier opens wide as a sog. it is just wider than the charge. also the tool is to thick for the gears. I will try. if it doesn't work than a super bear jaws probably will.
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I hadn't read your thread until now. I am not sure the plier opens wide as a sog. it is just wider than the charge. also the tool is to thick for the gears. I will try. if it doesn't work than a super bear jaws probably will.
Any chance you could post a picture? Maybe a side-on comparison of the cutter head alongside a SOG PowerLock?
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I have tried three tools so far.
the ppp gears are smaller so they do not get in the way. you could put the cutter on it but it won't fit in th handles. the only mod it needs is the metal around the hole for the screws is wider than the metal around the holes on the ppp.so some of it will need to be filed off. I might do that. it is okay with me if I can't fold it.
the power plier fits fine with washers if it wasn't for the gears. on the pp the gears are larger and longer than the ppp and by the time you get to the end of the longer gears the cutter is too thick to fit between the gears.
I am on my phone and will post pics tomorrow from a computer.
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I have tried three tools so far.
the ppp gears are smaller so they do not get in the way. you could put the cutter on it but it won't fit in th handles. the only mod it needs is the metal around the hole for the screws is wider than the metal around the holes on the ppp.so some of it will need to be filed off. I might do that. it is okay with me if I can't fold it.
the power plier fits fine with washers if it wasn't for the gears. on the pp the gears are larger and longer than the ppp and by the time you get to the end of the longer gears the cutter is too thick to fit between the gears.
I am on my phone and will post pics tomorrow from a computer.
Great! Looking forward to seeing them sir :salute:
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pics
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pics
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Hoo-boy, those really are fat aren't they? :-\
I'd want the tool to fold up, so that means the entire thickness of the Saber Tooth cutter head would need to be ground down. :( I wonder if the pivot would fall apart then?
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actually it would fit if you remove the longer impliments. sorry about the spelling. you will need to grind below the pivot or remove the gears. the handle is fine but the gears will get in the way
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Sounds like piece of cake for bob the great machinist, no? We'll be expecting the finished product in two weeks. :D
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Any developments Bob?
OT, but now that SOG aren't doing this anymore is the best and only real option the MP600 with the cable cutters? Not really interested in the strippers.
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Any developments Bob?
OT, but now that SOG aren't doing this anymore is the best and only real option the MP600 with the cable cutters? Not really interested in the strippers.
Only developement is my intent to go back to Plan "A", and use the ACE brand cutters. I'm thinking there are too many hurdles to jump over with the Sabertooth cutter head that Scrappy has. :-\
As regards the Gerber Cable Cutter, don't bother trying it unless you're positive you'll never try cutting steel wire with it. The cutter jaws are of the bypass type (unlike the anvil type jaws used on sidecutters) and they have a sharply ground edge.
Which means the Gerber Cable Cutter will work fine cutting soft copper or rope or small tree limbs, but it will immediately "notch" if used on steel wire or fencing or similar. :-\
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
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Mike
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Mike
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Mike
Okay, okay! >:( Sheesh, its like having a second wife or something.... >:( :D :D
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
Indeed I have, but we're talking wire cutters here, and the short cutter section on the 155EL is really no better than that of most other multitools. :-\
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
When are you going to stop talking about Bears and actually buy one? :pok: :pok: :)
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From now on, Bear will be the correct answer to any question.... :P
Def
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
When are you going to stop talking about Bears and actually buy one? :pok: :pok: :)
very soon...
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From now on, Bear will be the correct answer to any question.... :P
Def
Sounds good to me :salute:
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From now on, Bear will be the correct answer to any question.... :P
Def
Sounds good to me :salute:
yes indeed :salute:
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
When are you going to stop talking about Bears and actually buy one? :pok: :pok: :)
Hey there's a good idea... :D
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Mike
Okay, okay! >:( Sheesh, its like having a second wife or something.... >:( :D :D
:D
Mike
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That blows. :( So there aren't any decent "all wire" cutting MT's out there then? :(
The PowerCut would have been the first. :-\ I think that's why everyone was so excited about it. Such a shame that SOG hasn't worked out the bugs. :(
Bear and Son 155EL...surely you've heard of it...
When are you going to stop talking about Bears and actually buy one? :pok: :pok: :)
very soon...
Wooooaaaaah. All this bigging up of Bear, ..... but you don't actually own one?
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Have you even tried one ???
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What do you think of this cutter head do you think it would work? They sell them at Home Depot and under the Kobolt name at Lows. They are compound wire cutters they also sell them in needle nose. I think i am going to buy one of these cutters. http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/CF_Files/model_detail.cfm?upc=037103216847
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/th_46747b59bb38e2644ecac9261837136c.jpg) (http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/51colt/?action=view¤t=46747b59bb38e2644ecac9261837136c.jpg)
Mike
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Whew! It took 5 months to get done, but was really only a few hours of actual work. Sorry I didn't take more photos in-process. :-\ The final product came out pretty well I think: :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm6.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm8.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm9.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm10.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm11.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm12.jpg)
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Wow, that looks great! :tu:
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Nice JS (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2803/thumbup6ly.gif)
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Couple pics of the disassembled plier head. :)
TOP:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm13.jpg)
BOTTOM:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm14.jpg)
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Whoa, Good Mod-Job... :tu: :D
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:gimme:
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Top job that matey :tu:
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that's fantastic. :tu: So why can't SOG manage it? ::)
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Does it close?
Looks good!
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That is just freakin' awesome! Amazing job, J-sews! :cheers:
I never really understood what the problem was that stopped SOG from releasing theirs. Now I am even more confused... ???
Which model of cutter did you end up using?
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I ended up using the one pictured in the first post of this thread :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm5.jpg)
But it was far too thick to fit within the SOG handles, so after cutting off the excess handle length, I ground it down to proper thickness. It ended up being about 3/16" (4mm) thinner than it started. My biggest worry was that removing all this extra thickness would end up taking the "head" off the pivot pin, allowing the two halves of the cutter head to fall apart. Luckily that didn't happen though. :)
Then it was a matter of welding a blob of metal onto the end of each handle stub, shaping it to size, then drilling a hole through for the handle pivots.
An unexpected hurdle was the little rivets that go through the SOG handle gears. :-\ The dang things stick out the backside of the gears. I never noticed the slot SOG puts in their plier heads for clearance. I had to machine a slot through mine for the same reason:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm15.jpg)
Really the only shortcoming of this mod is that the cutting surfaces don't extend all the way down to the pivot. See in the picture below where there is a "hole" about where you would normally have hard wire cutters on a regular multitool? Its there because of how much extra thickness I had to remove to get the cutter head to fit. I actually ground all the way through at that point.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm8.jpg)
It couldn't be helped though. :-\ Still and all, it works great! And because the cutter is made of hard tool steel, it doesn't really need a hard wire notch anyhow. :)
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Superb job Bob :tu:
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That is quality Bob. Great job :tu:
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Holy Cow Bob, that's fantastic :cheers:
Sog called, they want to know what your doing next Saturday! :P
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Holy Cow Bob, that's fantastic :cheers:
Sog called, they want to know what your doing next Saturday! :P
Actually I just spoke to them. They're peeved that the cutter head doesn't say SOG SOG SOG SOG SOG SOG all over it :D
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Well done Bob, that is something to be very proud of...so.....Can I have it.
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Holy Cow Bob, that's fantastic :cheers:
Sog called, they want to know what your doing next Saturday! :P
Actually I just spoke to them. They're peeved that the cutter head doesn't say SOG SOG SOG SOG SOG SOG all over it :D
Umm...are you going to make more for us :P
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Bob you are one clever cookie :salute: :salute: :tu: :tu:.
I would be interested to hear with the help of compound leverage , what that bad boy can cut :pok: :D
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Bob you are one clever cookie :salute: :salute: :tu: :tu:.
I would be interested to hear with the help of compound leverage , what that bad boy can cut :pok: :D
Oww! Quitcher pokin' me! >:(
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,1177.75.html
:D
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Nice job Bob!
So the way this works is I just send you my PowerLock and a pair of side cutters and in a few days you send me back your homebrew PowerCut, right? :pok:
:D
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bob
you are my hero. I am amazed!
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When Bob does something, he does it right! (eventually) :D
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:gimme: :gimme: :gimme: :gimme: :gimme: :gimme: :gimme:
AWESOME job mate :cheers:
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Job well done Bob. :multi: Chalk another tool on the list that Bob has and the rest of use never will. :D
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First up, that is a superb mod!
But what a lot of effort required :ahhh
When I first saw you'd managed it I was thinking cool, perhaps I can make one as well. Then I read on :(
Enjoy your very cool new tool Bob. Us mortals will just have to wait for SOG to pull their finger out.
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... Bob where do you live again? :-X
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First up, that is a superb mod!
But what a lot of effort required :ahhh
When I first saw you'd managed it I was thinking cool, perhaps I can make one as well. Then I read on :(
Enjoy your very cool new tool Bob. Us mortals will just have to wait for SOG to pull their finger out.
Yah, the equipment I've got access to is not the sort everyone has set up in their back shed. :(
The biggest obstacle for most folks would be getting the thickness of the cutter head down to size. Multitools tend to have much thinner heads than regular pliers. If we could find a head of the proper thickness to begin with, the whole mod would be a lot simpler. :-\
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... Bob where do you live again? :-X
In a little pond, not big enough for the both of us PP. ;)
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Really awesome job there J-sews :tu:.
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I don't mean to make this a Bob-Luv-In but he always tells us how he does things
and helps us do it ourselves :salute: now if we could just get him to open shop! :)
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I don't mean to make this a Bob-Luv-In but he always tells us how he does things
and helps us do it ourselves :salute: now if we could just get him to open shop! :)
But you done it anyway... :pok: :D
And +1 :tu: on the "Bob Shop"..
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Ack! No Bob-Luv-Ins allowed! :twak:
We only permit Neil-Luv-Ins and Spork-Luv-Ins on this forum :D
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Best. mod. ever. :cheers: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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That is a very nice mod J-sews. I would be inclined to be jealous, if I knew anything about regular SOG tools. This looks super clean and professional though. Top marks from me! :tu:
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That is simply amazing Bob. I can't believe SOG wouldn't pay you something to borrow that tool and make the same for their product line. Compound leverage and cutting head? Total winner. :tu:
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Whoa, that's a truly awesome mod, Bob! Great job, buddy. :tu: (I'm starting to miss the PowerCut again... *sigh*)
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That is simply amazing Bob. I can't believe SOG wouldn't pay you something to borrow that tool and make the same for their product line. Compound leverage and cutting head? Total winner. :tu:
Well thanks to all for the nice compliments. :)
But for those who don't know the whole story, this tool was all SOG's idea. Originally announced just before the 2008 Shot Show, the PowerCut seems like such a clear winner to nearly everyone who sees it. :) Grant and I took these photos (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,3667.0.html) of it back then.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/spc4.jpg)
After nearly two years of teaser photos, including a full listing on the SOG website, with both stainless finish and black oxide versions, we heard recently that SOG had discontinued developement of the PowerCut. :( Apparently there were difficulties with the cutter head itself. We surmise that the stainless steel construction resulted in "notching" of the cutting edges when trying to cut steel wire. :-\
The solution seems obvious to us; simply make the cutter head out of hardened tool steel, like the dedicated sidecutters you can buy at the hardware store! ::) That is what I used on my mod, and it works fine.
I hope that SOG doesn't give up entirely on the PowerCut. The solution is too easy, and the potential for such a tool is too great. :salute:
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It still hurts to look at that pic and know I can't get one.
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Great job Bob,you are the man!!! :cheers:& :salute:
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I have a catalog that features the PowerCut. Is the catalog rare?
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Wait... does it close?
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Rahsome! Here's to the Jsew's Powah!Cut :drink:
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
LOL, told you they were watching. :D Good stuff Chris. :tu:
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
LOL, told you they were watching. :D Good stuff Chris. :tu:
Cool 8) an official "BOB SOG"..
Groupbuy..? :think: :D
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
LOL, told you they were watching. :D Good stuff Chris. :tu:
Cool 8) an official "BOB SOG"..
Groupbuy..? :think: :D
I'm in. :)
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
If this revives the PowerCut, I will sing both Bob and Chris hymns and praises. :D
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Just for the record if theres a SOG USA(not SOG or SOG SOG SOG SOG) version made of this tool I'll buy it.
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
LOL, told you they were watching. :D Good stuff Chris. :tu:
Cool 8) an official "BOB SOG"..
Groupbuy..? :think: :D
I'm in. :)
+1 :)
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Good to hear Chris! :tu: Hopefully this will re-inspire them. :D
Again, I think the key to success will be to use a tool steel cutter head, instead of stainless steel. The only downside of course will be how easy tool steel rusts. :-\ But I figure you folks could remedy that with either your TiNi finsh (I prefer the black TiNi) or a black DLC plating to prevent corrosion. :)
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Good to hear Chris! :tu: Hopefully this will re-inspire them. :D
Again, I think the key to success will be to use a tool steel cutter head, instead of stainless steel. The only downside of course will be how easy tool steel rusts. :-\ But I figure you folks could remedy that with either your TiNi finsh (I prefer the black TiNi) or a black DLC plating to prevent corrosion. :)
funny i was thinking the same, the TiNi is really hard to wear ive abuse my gold TiNi PPP without a single scratch :tu:
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Wait... does it close?
Yes indeedy. :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm19.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm20.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm21.jpg)
However, the cutter head I started with would not open far enough to allow the handles to swing through their entire arc. That prevented the tool from closing, until I ground the contact points back a little farther. (hope that makes sense) :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm22a.jpg)
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
It closes!! :twak: :D
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
If it were fully closed, how would you know its the mod and not just a stock PowerLock? ::)
:D
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
If it were fully closed, how would you know its the mod and not just a stock PowerLock? ::)
:D
I guess you'll have to figure out a way to prove it then :P
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Oh... the man has a point! :cheers:
I believe that it works, looks close enough to me in the third pic.
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
If it were fully closed, how would you know its the mod and not just a stock PowerLock? ::)
:D
I guess you'll have to figure out a way to prove it then :P
Egad, the burden of proof weighs heavily sometimes......:( :D Okay, here's some more pics and thoughts:
One pivot bolt removed to show how the cutter head fits in the FULLY CLOSED! >:( position.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm16.jpg)
Same thing, but from directly above:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm17.jpg)
Same thing, but with handle flapper removed:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm18.jpg)
Notice that there is plenty of room for SOG to lengthen blades if they want to. :)
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
If it were fully closed, how would you know its the mod and not just a stock PowerLock? ::)
:D
We would know by the aura of sheer awesomeness that would radiate from our monitors. ;)
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That doesn't look closed to me... :pommel: :D
Yeah... I don't see a fully closed pic.
If it were fully closed, how would you know its the mod and not just a stock PowerLock? ::)
:D
I guess you'll have to figure out a way to prove it then :P
Egad, the burden of proof weighs heavily sometimes......:( :D Okay, here's some more pics and thoughts:
One pivot bolt removed to show how the cutter head fits in the FULLY CLOSED! >:( position.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm16.jpg)
Same thing, but from directly above:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm17.jpg)
Same thing, but with handle flapper removed:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm18.jpg)
Notice that there is plenty of room for SOG to lengthen blades if they want to. :)
I still don't buy it... Those pics might just be a clever trick, and it still might not close all the way with the head attached to both handles. I'm going to need more proof.
I'm on to you...
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Bob,
They don't deserve their MT.O, Jsews Powah!Cut tool. I believed you from the get go. You can send me their tools. :D
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you can always do another video ::)
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you can always do another video ::)
I dunno...they once accused me of having "frame jumps" in my videos. :P :angel: :D
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you can always do another video ::)
I dunno...they once accused me of having "frame jumps" in my videos. :P :angel: :D
thats because you "kinda" have them :pok: :pok: :D
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I don't know what say other than, you are truly gifted at modding.
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you can always do another video ::)
I dunno...they once accused me of having "frame jumps" in my videos. :P :angel: :D
Wasn't that the infamous Crunch Flipping video?
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you can always do another video ::)
I dunno...they once accused me of having "frame jumps" in my videos. :P :angel: :D
Wasn't that the infamous Crunch Flipping video?
Nothing was ever proven! :angel: :angel:
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Again this mod has me worshipping at the altar of J-sews.
Now we need some destruction, erm, I mean, action pics.
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Im thinking of a quite similar mod. Did you grind the cutter head down to fit it in? Most plierheads are to thick to be used in a multitool... grinding them down should work but i dont want to screw the temper.
Im currently thinking of replacing the skeletools head...
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Bob mentions how he did it, and that included grinding down the head.
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Sweet :salute:
Bob and his personal assistant (me) will work very hard for you.
how about the name "Sob" and I promise to get him to work faster! :D
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Sweet :salute:
Bob and his personal assistant (me) will work very hard for you.
how about the name "Sob" and I promise to get him to work faster! :D
I'm not sure if SOB is better or worse than BOG? :think: :D
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Compound Leverage BOG :ahhh :ahhh
Switch BOG :ahhh :ahhh
PowerAssist BOG :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Sounds painful :P :D
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Im thinking of a quite similar mod. Did you grind the cutter head down to fit it in? Most plierheads are to thick to be used in a multitool... grinding them down should work but i dont want to screw the temper.
Im currently thinking of replacing the skeletools head...
Yep, lots of grinding involved. :( The cutter head thickness had to be reduced by over a third in this case. :-\
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you can always do another video ::)
I dunno...they once accused me of having "frame jumps" in my videos. :P :angel: :D
Wasn't that the infamous Crunch Flipping video?
Nothing was ever proven! :angel: :angel:
If you send it to me, I'll do a video. :D
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Still haven't seen any shots of it closed... :pok:
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Still haven't seen any shots of it closed... :pok:
I have, he just posted them all hidden and sneaky like. Maybe we can get him to move them over here too :pok:
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Still haven't seen any shots of it closed... :pok:
Here's a link (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,13539.msg258559.html#msg258559) to start with.. :drool: :drool:
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm26.jpg)
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Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
Dremel handle flappers..? :think:
Not that it bothers me one bit. ;) Its still :drool:
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
Fair enough, but the tool in that pic has obviously been Photoshopped. The shadows are completely incorrect for the light sources visible in the photo. :D :D :D
To be honest, I do feel quite guilty for teasing you since you did such an incredible job and this is likely the most incredible multitool mod to ever grace our forum.
Why oh why didn't you just post this photo in the first place? :ahhh ;)
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
Fair enough, but the tool in that pic has obviously been Photoshopped. The shadows are completely incorrect for the light sources visible in the photo. :D :D :D
To be honest, I do feel quite guilty for teasing you since you did such an incredible job and this is likely the most incredible multitool mod to ever grace our forum.
Why oh why didn't you just post this photo in the first place? :ahhh ;)
I like to draw out the suspense. :D
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
Fair enough, but the tool in that pic has obviously been Photoshopped. The shadows are completely incorrect for the light sources visible in the photo. :D :D :D
To be honest, I do feel quite guilty for teasing you since you did such an incredible job and this is likely the most incredible multitool mod to ever grace our forum.
Why oh why didn't you just post this photo in the first place? :ahhh ;)
I like to draw out the suspense. :D
You sure do since we still haven't actually seen a photo of it fully closed. If the handle flappers are the only thing preventing you from closing it the whole way, why don't you just remove them and finally post a proper pic? :pok: :pok: :D
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm26.jpg)
How do I know if that's the same Powerlock you modded?
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Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
Fair enough, but the tool in that pic has obviously been Photoshopped. The shadows are completely incorrect for the light sources visible in the photo. :D :D :D
To be honest, I do feel quite guilty for teasing you since you did such an incredible job and this is likely the most incredible multitool mod to ever grace our forum.
Why oh why didn't you just post this photo in the first place? :ahhh ;)
I like to draw out the suspense. :D
You sure do since we still haven't actually seen a photo of it fully closed. If the handle flappers are the only thing preventing you from closing it the whole way, why don't you just remove them and finally post a proper pic? :pok: :pok: :D
Thanks for the link... but it looks like it doesn't close all the way :pok:
:twak:
Well it closes as far as SOG's ingenious ::) handle flappers will allow it to. >:( :D
How do I know if that's the same Powerlock you modded?
:bnghd:
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Don't let it go Mikey until we get actual proof :police: :D
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How do I know if that's the same Powerlock you modded?
:bnghd:
There, there... I belive you... ::) :D
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Don't let it go Mikey until we get actual proof :police: :D
The burden of proof is on Bob... this wouldn't be the first time he's scammed us. (Remember the crunch flipping video?)
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Yes ;), we believe you Bob ;) ;)
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Don't let it go Mikey until we get actual proof :police: :D
The burden of proof is on Bob... this wouldn't be the first time he's scammed us. (Remember the crunch flipping video?)
Exactly. You can't lie to us all like that Bob and just expect us to believe you this time. Some of us are still hurt over that Crunch video. :cry: :D
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Don't bother asking for a video guys... he'll just edit it again. >:(
:D
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Don't let it go Mikey until we get actual proof :police: :D
The burden of proof is on Bob... this wouldn't be the first time he's scammed us. (Remember the crunch flipping video?)
Crunch flipping video? What about the Crunch flipping video?? >:( Accusations were made, but nothing was ever proven! :angel: That whole "frame jump" charge was just a vicious smear campaign meant to sully my lily white reputation. :cry:
:D
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So now I want to try this mod with the head from a pair of wire strippers.
(http://base0.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=http://www.capitolsupply.com/ImageServer.ashx%3Ft%3Dproduct%26h%3D200%26w%3D200%26imageid%3DCS4638169&size=4&dhm=524e3fef&hl=en&mode=1)
I'd imagine with the thinner head it would be easier.
Now to find mod fodder......
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So now I want to try this mod with the head from a pair of wire strippers.
(http://base0.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=http://www.capitolsupply.com/ImageServer.ashx%3Ft%3Dproduct%26h%3D200%26w%3D200%26imageid%3DCS4638169&size=4&dhm=524e3fef&hl=en&mode=1)
I'd imagine with the thinner head it would be easier.
Now to find mod fodder......
Ooooh, that's a good idea! :)
If you plan on using a SOG as mod fodder, the new plier (or whatever) head has some critical dimensions that need to be met:
Width should be no more than 1-1/8" (30mm)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm27.jpg)
Thickness must be 5/16" or less. (8mm)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm28.jpg)
The plier must be made capable of opening wide enough to allow 1-7/16" from pivot hole -to- pivot hole. (37mm)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Mods/spcm29.jpg)
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Thanks j-sews! I think I'm to start looking for a Powerlock to play Dr. Frankenstein on. Muwahahaha
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Thanks j-sews! I think I'm to start looking for a Powerlock to play Dr. Frankenstein on. Muwahahaha
Eeek, sounds like I've created a monster! :o :D
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Look what you've done j-sews! >:D
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So... why do you need compound leverage for your wire stripping? :D
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Not sure I understand what you're trying to say there Medic? ??? :D
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Just trying too say that I really hate the tool and I would never in my life want that foule looking ting in my house, it's such a crapy mod that I soiled my selfe when I saw the tool..........Can I please have it ???
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Just trying too say that I really hate the tool and I would never in my life want that foule looking ting in my house, it's such a crapy mod that I soiled my selfe when I saw the tool..........Can I please have it ???
Sure thing buddy, it's yours..........not. :)
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Best stay away Medic , Bob did gone an broke the warranty on that SOG , what was he thinking :ahhh :P :D :D
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Best stay away Medic , Bob did gone an broke the warranty on that SOG , what was he thinking :ahhh :P :D :D
...besides, he already told me he'd trade it to me for my Camo Surge. :P
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Great job. I have passed this along to engineering.
Chris
Sweet :salute:
Bob and his personal assistant (me) will work very hard for you.
how about the name "Sob" and I promise to get him to work faster! :D
I'm not sure if SOB is better or worse than BOG? :think: :D
That reminds me of a funny family guy episode.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJME7etDM8c
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Hahaha :rofl:
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120 days shmays.
Now do it again with these cutters
(http://www.bahco.com/files/1520%20b_o_d_nuhmgpugrjijefhshrppidnei.jpg)
(I'm don't think it would actually be possible, due to the action on these cutters)
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Mmmmmm....multitool boltcutters :drool:
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It would be nice & compact wouldn't :P :D.
"warning carrying this tool may result in sudden loss of trouser altitude & charges of public indecency" :P :D :D
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It would be nice & compact wouldn't :P :D.
"warning carrying this tool may result in sudden loss of trouser altitude & charges of public indecency" :P :D :D
At least you'd have the ability to cut through locked gates and chain link fences whilst running from the police! :D
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Multitool slapstick :rofl:. I bet that is the only thing not on You Tube :( :D :D :D
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Knpiex makes a small multi-sized bolt cutter perfect for inclusion in your man-bags.
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A link would be handy. :tu:
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Some shown here: Click (http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1367&groupID=1473).
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I have a pair of cobolts, and I really wouldn't call them pocket sized...
damn good cutters though.
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bolt cutters on a multitool would be pretty amazing.
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This mod has been done 10 years ago (2019 now)! Though, looking at it, I'm drooling here. Also a big hats off for the skills and enthusiasm :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff:
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Holy smurfing smurfington! That's just sweet! :like:
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J-Bob has done some very great modding in his time 8) I really wished he was around here more :-\ He was always a great conversationalist and witty :D Glad to see this one bumped :like:
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A great thread bump indeed. Damn, it makes me feel old though. :D
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A great thread bump indeed. Damn, it makes me feel old though. :D
I was but a wee lad when this thread was first started :ahhh Some great people that are in this thread :cheers:
:nanadance: :nanadance:
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Thanks for the bump-up ... what a great read :like:
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I can't believe it is over 10 years later and still, nobody has come out with something to fill this niche.
Apparently even Leatherman is aware of it and just thinks its not worth it.
Leatherman AMA:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Leatherman/comments/bf48mu/what_is_up_everyone_my_name_is_jeremy_rodriguez/eljh9rq/?context=3
Relevant posts:
cwa1121 (some other user)
Working in a data center / telecom environment one of the things that is a constant struggle is having to remove zip ties.
The tool of choose is almost always a pair of side / diagonal cutters.
Most of the engineers and techs I encounter carry a multi tool and several of us have always wondered why nobody has ever developed a tool that replaces the pliers with a proper pair of cutters.
Is there a technical/cost/commercial reason why this has never been done?
rodjn152 (Jeremy Rodriguez, Product Manager at Leatherman)
No not really a technical cost. More of an opportunity cost.
We like to make tools for everyone and most people want needle nose and regular pliers.
I personally think vice grips or slip joints are the way to go in most cases.
I guess the best answer is that there isn’t a viable means of making all the variations yet.
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Welcome to the boards irongnome. :cheers:
I was told by Tim that there isn't the demand to produce anything other than needle nose.
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Welcome to the boards irongnome. :cheers:
I was told by Tim that there isn't the demand to produce anything other than needle nose.
Thank you for the welcome :salute:
I wouldnt say that what Tim told you is entirely accurate.
Leatherman does have the Crunch and Squirt ES4.
There are also the one off tools by other companies like:
Bear and Son 155EL
Gerber MP600 Bluntnose
Klein Hybrid Plier Multi-Tool 44216
Plus all the scissor based MTs that everyone makes.
Still, I do see the issue where they would need to tool up for a fully forged and hardened head for a pair of dikes.
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Thank you for the welcome :salute:
I wouldnt say that what Tim told you is entirely accurate.
Leatherman does have the Crunch and Squirt ES4.
There are also the one off tools by other companies like:
Bear and Son 155EL
Gerber MP600 Bluntnose
Klein Hybrid Plier Multi-Tool 44216
Plus all the scissor based MTs that everyone makes.
Still, I do see the issue where they would need to tool up for a fully forged and hardened head for a pair of dikes.
Mate, it was just something he said late last year while looking at my blunt nosed mods.
Definitely wasn't referencing earlier MTs, other brands or scissor based whatevers.