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Title: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Myoman on November 08, 2018, 01:40:43 AM
I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: GrandpaPatch on November 08, 2018, 01:46:26 AM
I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!

I don't believe that carrying a 'regular folding knife' along with the SAK is redundant. There are a lot of things that a good folding knife (most today are locking blades) can do easier or safer than what you can with SAK. JMTC
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: AndyTiedye on November 08, 2018, 01:47:07 AM
My OHOs are also SAKs
(yes I know there are a few 2HO in the photo, but all have locking blades)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/fa69498e3833a9ccdd028a2bd1706e7f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: smiller43147 on November 08, 2018, 04:18:05 AM
Yes there is a slight redundancy.  But this is MTO.  Plenty of members here carry 2 or more knives/SAK/MT on them every day.
So what?  If you want that knife, go ahead and buy it.  And pair it with whatever you want.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Alan K. on November 08, 2018, 04:48:25 AM
My daily carry is usually a SAK and pliers based tool and a single blade knife.  Reason being the single blade knife takes most of the abuse as far as cutting goes and I save the blades in the SAK for more delicate or precise work and it is easier than getting a blade open out of the pliers based tool.  Some people even forego the standard single blade knife for a small box cutter such as the Gerber EAB because with their replaceable blades they are always going to be sharp. :cheers:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: GrandpaPatch on November 08, 2018, 07:29:07 AM
My OHOs are also SAKs
(yes I know there are a few 2HO in the photo, but all have locking blades)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/fa69498e3833a9ccdd028a2bd1706e7f.jpg)

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 :iagree: :like: I stand corrected. You can be redundant and still carry only SAKs. Sorry my brain wasn't even thinking about those newer SAKs when I responded. I was thinking along the lines of a SwissChamp or Hiker, as those are the ones I own. But, like others have mentioned, if you like the combinations carry everything you want.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Sawl Goodman on November 08, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
Does it have to have OHO? I find two hand opening perfectly adequate 99.99% of the time. If you can really only use one hand most of the time, maybe a fixed blade is better. There's no pivot to get gunged up and stiff either.

OHO is a comparatively recent feature - certainly in SAKs. One wonders how people coped in the days of THO only. :think:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: ddogu on November 08, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
My OHOs are also SAKs
(yes I know there are a few 2HO in the photo, but all have locking blades)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/fa69498e3833a9ccdd028a2bd1706e7f.jpg)

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What's the difference between those 2 RescueTools? I thought that was a one-version product  :think:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on November 08, 2018, 03:19:16 PM
Carrying a secondary knife is done by many who also carry a SAK.  While redundant there is a place for a dedicated blade IMO.  If you are using your knife a lot a SAK blade wont cut it ( literally ) as the soft steel will dull faster than a blade with higher end steel.  Maybe you need or want more blade?  Maybe you want easier deployment?  For everyday things a SAK is perfect.       
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: AndyTiedye on November 08, 2018, 04:11:14 PM


My OHOs are also SAKs
(yes I know there are a few 2HO in the photo, but all have locking blades)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181108/fa69498e3833a9ccdd028a2bd1706e7f.jpg)

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What's the difference between those 2 RescueTools? I thought that was a one-version product  :think:

Old and new thumb hole.  New one is round.

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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: pfrsantos on November 08, 2018, 04:22:05 PM
Whatever works for you. If you can accomplish everything you need to do with a SAK, fine. If you need a OHO knife some times, fine. If you don't need a OHO knife but want to carry one, fine.

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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on November 08, 2018, 04:53:39 PM
If I'm carrying a OHO folder, I'll often have a Swiss knife or traditional pocket knife too, which saves me opening the larger knife in front of people who may be concerned about my intentions. A few days ago, I used a Swiss knife in the town centre, and nobody batted an eyelid. A modern folder in the same setting may have attracted unwanted attention.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: cody6268 on November 09, 2018, 01:06:14 AM
I always carry a Spyderco Ladybug Hawkbill with my SAK, and it shares a watch pocket with a small SAK (74mm and below) or a small gentleman's type folder, those of course I have if I need to cut something in the open. Cuts stuff knives twice it size often struggle with, and good for self defense in that it's got that hawkbill blade, is serrated, and OHO. 
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: lister on November 09, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
I've yet to find a cutting task my SAK couldn't handle. I work in small electronics R&D lab in a semi urbanised forest (I am quite serious, there is forest all over the place in my country   :D) so I never had to skin a mammoth or something similar but still. Sure, there are things that could be done faster with a locking folder but the bigger footprint of such knife is not worth it if your primary duty in life is not cutting stuff.  :D
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: pfrsantos on November 09, 2018, 07:11:01 PM
I have a SAK as part of my base EDC (usually Midnite Manager, Executive/Director). Some times I carry a larger model (Sportsman, Climber, Compact, Spartan). When I do, I don't awlways carry another knife.

If I just have the smaller SAKs, I tend to carry another larger blade knife, for food prep. These tend to be more traditional, only occasionaly do I carry a OHO.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: powernoodle on November 10, 2018, 12:32:09 AM
In addition to a SAK, I like to carry a Spyderco, Benchmade or whatever for fast deployment.  There might be some emergency to deal with - like me having to open a letter or package of bacon.

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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: dkop1 on November 10, 2018, 01:05:44 AM
Not weird at all. Sometimes you've got one hand buried deep into a project, or holding something in place, and being able to flick open a "normal" knife is just plain handy.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: AZ_Hiker on November 10, 2018, 07:17:20 AM
Normally I'm complimenting the SAK of the day with one of my old first generation Spyperco Enduras.  It's good for more serious tasks or just when I don't have two hands free.  I'll carry the serrated one if the day might need it.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Mactire404 on December 10, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
I never intended on this to happen, but I do carry a OHO alongside my SAK.
My Handyman is a trusty compagnion for a long time, but sometimes you need to get a knife out quick or only have one hand available. So when I started to carry a (fake) Small Sebenza to see what the fuss was all about it stuck witch me and is part of my EDC for about five(?) years now.
I intended to get a real Chris Reeve Knives Small Sebenza but I got a girlfriend instead and I just can't justify €400,- on a knife as easily as she can on a €600,- carpet.  :facepalm:

Below is not my EDC, but the Handyman (black) and the Smabenze (as I call it) are.

(https://i.imgur.com/iCVaT3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Rapidray on December 10, 2018, 05:07:18 PM
I never intended on this to happen, but I do carry a OHO alongside my SAK.
My Handyman is a trusty compagnion for a long time, but sometimes you need to get a knife out quick or only have one hand available. So when I started to carry a (fake) Small Sebenza to see what the fuss was all about it stuck witch me and is part of my EDC for about five(?) years now.
I intended to get a real Chris Reeve Knives Small Sebenza but I got a girlfriend instead and I just can't justify €400,- on a knife as easily as she can on a €600,- carpet.  :facepalm:

Below is not my EDC, but the Handyman (black) and the Smabenze (as I call it) are.

(https://i.imgur.com/iCVaT3b.jpg)
So that Chris Reeve sebenza is a fake? That one you have is nice. Who does make it then?
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: ezdog on December 10, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Mactire404 on December 10, 2018, 09:57:15 PM
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I never intended on this to happen, but I do carry a OHO alongside my SAK.
My Handyman is a trusty compagnion for a long time, but sometimes you need to get a knife out quick or only have one hand available. So when I started to carry a (fake) Small Sebenza to see what the fuss was all about it stuck witch me and is part of my EDC for about five(?) years now.
I intended to get a real Chris Reeve Knives Small Sebenza but I got a girlfriend instead and I just can't justify €400,- on a knife as easily as she can on a €600,- carpet.  :facepalm:

Below is not my EDC, but the Handyman (black) and the Smabenze (as I call it) are.

(https://i.imgur.com/iCVaT3b.jpg)
So that Chris Reeve sebenza is a fake? That one you have is nice. Who does make it then?

Yes it is. It feels awesome in hand. The titanium is pretty great. Under the hood however you get what you pay for. This is not a CRK by any means. The jimping on the back of the knife is poor, the framelock is starting to fail and the washers are poorly made and I had to polish the rough edges off myself. I bought it from a Chinese website to see how a Sebenza would handle as 'it's the only knife you'll ever need' and it's supposed to be a working knife.
And you know what, it is. The ergonomics are fantastic and the titanium has a very nice feel. The blade shape is very nice as well.
Initially I intended to buy a real one, but life happened and now it's too much. The Smabenza has won a place in my heart however and has turned me on to single bladed folders.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Rapidray on December 10, 2018, 10:43:34 PM
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I never intended on this to happen, but I do carry a OHO alongside my SAK.
My Handyman is a trusty compagnion for a long time, but sometimes you need to get a knife out quick or only have one hand available. So when I started to carry a (fake) Small Sebenza to see what the fuss was all about it stuck witch me and is part of my EDC for about five(?) years now.
I intended to get a real Chris Reeve Knives Small Sebenza but I got a girlfriend instead and I just can't justify €400,- on a knife as easily as she can on a €600,- carpet.  :facepalm:

Below is not my EDC, but the Handyman (black) and the Smabenze (as I call it) are.

(https://i.imgur.com/iCVaT3b.jpg)
So that Chris Reeve sebenza is a fake? That one you have is nice. Who does make it then?

Yes it is. It feels awesome in hand. The titanium is pretty great. Under the hood however you get what you pay for. This is not a CRK by any means. The jimping on the back of the knife is poor, the framelock is starting to fail and the washers are poorly made and I had to polish the rough edges off myself. I bought it from a Chinese website to see how a Sebenza would handle as 'it's the only knife you'll ever need' and it's supposed to be a working knife.
And you know what, it is. The ergonomics are fantastic and the titanium has a very nice feel. The blade shape is very nice as well.
Initially I intended to buy a real one, but life happened and now it's too much. The Smabenza has won a place in my heart however and has turned me on to single bladed folders.
I think a large majority of the SAK owners are also carrying a single blade folders for serious business. The SAK’s are for the handyman side or support side of our daily lives.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: DEMartin on December 10, 2018, 11:26:06 PM
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I never intended on this to happen, but I do carry a OHO alongside my SAK.
My Handyman is a trusty compagnion for a long time, but sometimes you need to get a knife out quick or only have one hand available. So when I started to carry a (fake) Small Sebenza to see what the fuss was all about it stuck witch me and is part of my EDC for about five(?) years now.
I intended to get a real Chris Reeve Knives Small Sebenza but I got a girlfriend instead and I just can't justify €400,- on a knife as easily as she can on a €600,- carpet.  :facepalm:

Below is not my EDC, but the Handyman (black) and the Smabenze (as I call it) are.

(https://i.imgur.com/iCVaT3b.jpg)
So that Chris Reeve sebenza is a fake? That one you have is nice. Who does make it then?

Yes it is. It feels awesome in hand. The titanium is pretty great. Under the hood however you get what you pay for. This is not a CRK by any means. The jimping on the back of the knife is poor, the framelock is starting to fail and the washers are poorly made and I had to polish the rough edges off myself. I bought it from a Chinese website to see how a Sebenza would handle as 'it's the only knife you'll ever need' and it's supposed to be a working knife.
And you know what, it is. The ergonomics are fantastic and the titanium has a very nice feel. The blade shape is very nice as well.
Initially I intended to buy a real one, but life happened and now it's too much. The Smabenza has won a place in my heart however and has turned me on to single bladed folders.
I think a large majority of the SAK owners are also carrying a single blade folders for serious business. The SAK’s are for the handyman side or support side of our daily lives.
:iagree:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 11, 2018, 03:39:43 PM
While the price for a Sebenza is steep I also think if this is the ONE and done knife the price is non issue  :dunno:.  When you total up all the knives we buy over time to try to find the ONE we spend quite a few dollars over time just trying.  If you've found the one knife that does it all and will be carried and carried and carried for years on end then.......... ? 

I'm costing this knife out over say, 5 years, 10 years.  Certainly many have spend that much in gear over 5 years.  I wish I found my ONE and done anything.  Truth is many would still buy and try other knives  :facepalm:.  I would like to hear the Captains thoughts.  I remember when he got his Sebenza. 

Any Sebenza owners want to chime in? 

Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Rapidray on December 11, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
While the price for a Sebenza is steep I also think if this is the ONE and done knife the price is non issue  :dunno:.  When you total up all the knives we buy over time to try to find the ONE we spend quite a few dollars over time just trying.  If you've found the one knife that does it all and will be carried and carried and carried for years on end then.......... ? 

I'm costing this knife out over say, 5 years, 10 years.  Certainly many have spend that much in gear over 5 years.  I wish I found my ONE and done anything.  Truth is many would still buy and try other knives  :facepalm:.  I would like to hear the Captains thoughts.  I remember when he got his Sebenza. 

Any Sebenza owners want to chime in?
Randall Made Knives has a similar saying...I just can’t see waiting 5 years for a knife.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: ironraven on December 12, 2018, 01:52:25 AM
Every day.

My CRKT M-16 is my folding paring knife, and I have no problem tossing it's all metal self in the dishwasher. My Rebar or Compact... no. Just no.

Need to sharpen it. Really don't want to cut myself with it- it's used to cut cheese pretty much daily. I don't think I want that culture in a cut. :P
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: AndyTiedye on December 12, 2018, 05:53:19 AM


I think a large majority of the SAK owners are also carrying a single blade folders for serious business....

Might be true for members of this forum, but I very much doubt it among the general population of SAK owners.

What is the "serious business" that you are doing that renders SAK steel instantly dull?

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Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 06:16:02 AM
I certainly dont have the patience to wait 5 years.  Especially since there are so many choices to not have to wait. 
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 06:20:57 AM


I think a large majority of the SAK owners are also carrying a single blade folders for serious business....

Might be true for members of this forum, but I very much doubt it among the general population of SAK owners
.

What is the "serious business" that you are doing that renders SAK steel instantly dull?

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 :think: Certainly here and on other forums we will tend to have a few choices including a SAK.  I think the general SAK owner wouldn't surprise me.  Really hard to judge what percent would have a secondary blade of some kind.  Might not be a dedicated one might be a MT or even a slippy.   Not quite what the original topic was about tho. 
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: ddogu on December 12, 2018, 11:11:22 AM
I've yet to find a cutting task my SAK couldn't handle. I work in small electronics R&D lab in a semi urbanised forest (I am quite serious, there is forest all over the place in my country   :D) so I never had to skin a mammoth or something similar but still. Sure, there are things that could be done faster with a locking folder but the bigger footprint of such knife is not worth it if your primary duty in life is not cutting stuff.  :D

Whoa, then I'm movin to Slovenia  :cheers:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 03:42:06 PM
I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!

On further thought, I think for some a secondary dedicated knife to our wonderful SAKs is carried because we just like blades.  Yeah, not quite what was originally asked but I think this is often the case.  I stopped carrying a dedicated folder because I have my MT on me.  Seemed redundant enough to stop.  Later I carried one because I enjoyed carrying one.

What did you decide?
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Mactire404 on December 12, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
While the price for a Sebenza is steep I also think if this is the ONE and done knife the price is non issue  :dunno:.  When you total up all the knives we buy over time to try to find the ONE we spend quite a few dollars over time just trying.  If you've found the one knife that does it all and will be carried and carried and carried for years on end then.......... ? 

I'm costing this knife out over say, 5 years, 10 years.  Certainly many have spend that much in gear over 5 years.  I wish I found my ONE and done anything.  Truth is many would still buy and try other knives  :facepalm:.  I would like to hear the Captains thoughts.  I remember when he got his Sebenza. 

Any Sebenza owners want to chime in?

Sorry, didn't read your replay untill just a moment ago.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. While the price is steep, it's more than worth it in my opinion.
Seeing how much use I get out of a clone with limitations (in finish and design) I recon the real Sebenza will last me a lifetime.
Say I live for another 60 years, a Sebenza will be €6,60 per year. You can's even get a new SAK for that.
I've seen and handled a real (large) Sebenza about a year ago and the difference to the clone is stellar. Better finish, better cut, smoother handling.

The funny thing is I would not have bought the clone if I intended to keep using it. I saw the CRN factory tour, heard lavishing reviews and I didn't see it being that good. So I ordered a clone and expected it to end up in a drawer after a week or so. Boy was I wrong. I've EDC's other folders alongside my SAK and always come back to my Smabenza. I'm a bit torn, because I prefer not to buy rip-offs. But I'll probably wear this one down.
In the past I would have easily have spend that amount on gear, but I have other priorities now.

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I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!
On further thought, I think for some a secondary dedicated knife to our wonderful SAKs is carried because we just like blades.  Yeah, not quite what was originally asked but I think this is often the case.  I stopped carrying a dedicated folder because I have my MT on me.  Seemed redundant enough to stop.  Later I carried one because I enjoyed carrying one.
What did you decide?

I know you didn't ask me, but the main advantage of carrying a folder is that it opens one handed.
In addition to having a lock, which makes some jobs safer to do.
Title: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: ezdog on December 12, 2018, 04:30:40 PM
While the price for a Sebenza is steep I also think if this is the ONE and done knife the price is non issue  :dunno:.  When you total up all the knives we buy over time to try to find the ONE we spend quite a few dollars over time just trying.  If you've found the one knife that does it all and will be carried and carried and carried for years on end then.......... ? 

I'm costing this knife out over say, 5 years, 10 years.  Certainly many have spend that much in gear over 5 years.  I wish I found my ONE and done anything.  Truth is many would still buy and try other knives  :facepalm:.  I would like to hear the Captains thoughts.  I remember when he got his Sebenza. 

Any Sebenza owners want to chime in?

Sorry, didn't read your replay untill just a moment ago.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. While the price is steep, it's more than worth it in my opinion.
Seeing how much use I get out of a clone with limitations (in finish and design) I recon the real Sebenza will last me a lifetime.
Say I live for another 60 years, a Sebenza will be €6,60 per year. You can's even get a new SAK for that.
I've seen and handled a real (large) Sebenza about a year ago and the difference to the clone is stellar. Better finish, better cut, smoother handling.

The funny thing is I would not have bought the clone if I intended to keep using it. I saw the CRN factory tour, heard lavishing reviews and I didn't see it being that good. So I ordered a clone and expected it to end up in a drawer after a week or so. Boy was I wrong. I've EDC's other folders alongside my SAK and always come back to my Smabenza. I'm a bit torn, because I prefer not to buy rip-offs. But I'll probably wear this one down.
In the past I would have easily have spend that amount on gear, but I have other priorities now.

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I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!
On further thought, I think for some a secondary dedicated knife to our wonderful SAKs is carried because we just like blades.  Yeah, not quite what was originally asked but I think this is often the case.  I stopped carrying a dedicated folder because I have my MT on me.  Seemed redundant enough to stop.  Later I carried one because I enjoyed carrying one.
What did you decide?

I know you didn't ask me, but the main advantage of carrying a folder is that it opens one handed.
In addition to having a lock, which makes some jobs safer to do.

I got this one pretty cheap really because the guy who had it somehow was not happy with the way it performed and it was not up to his standard or expectations of fit & finish?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181212/825155b0ba051f4ab146d0332501f3bf.jpg)

So I asked him whether he had sent it back to Reeves for the "Spa" treatment or worked on it at all himself to try to make it better and he had not?
I had read about the precision in the method that they design and build the knives and figured that if I couldn't make it right the mothership certainly could so I jumped on it expecting problems from the start.

Well I received the knife and there was sort of a grittiness to it and it was actually not as sweet as I knew they should be so I of course took it apart and cleaned all of it and burnished the washers and went to reassemble the knife and right here is where it becomes obvious exactly what it is about these knives that is different to me than all others I have worked with before it!
This is not something I expect anyone else to accept or even understand without trying for themselves but........these knives are manufactured with such great materials, machining and close tolerances that the knife really did almost reassemble itself!

I had sure read about this many times and stored it in my mind but until one is in your hands and you can feel the perfection of the build it is just not easy to appreciate.
It is not just Hype but the Reeves knives are somehow fundamentally better made than most others or at least any that I am familiar with from my own actual experience.

Every single part snaps back into place perfectly.
Contrast this with any of the many Spyderco,Benchmade or ZT I have taken apart and had to fiddle with to get back together and then adjusted correctly once together and it is just a different experience.

In use the knives feel the same way as long as they are clean of course,there is a feel of precision that I just have not experienced anywhere else on a production knife.

Anyway if you have not held or had a Reeves in hand I suggest that you find a way to change that and see for yourself,there is a lot about them that is just sublime to me.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: hiraethus on December 12, 2018, 04:46:13 PM
 :iagree:

When I first got my Sebenza I was slightly underwhelmed. :-\  It was just OK, and felt no better to me than a Native 5 that I had.  But after cleaning it, polishing the washers a little and reassembling it with some care and a little grease I understood what makes them special.  It's beautifully made and incredibly precise.  It doesn't cut any better than a sharp SAK - and with the rules on locking knives here in the UK it rarely goes out of the house - so I don't often pair it with a SAK, but it is a lovely thing.
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Rapidray on December 12, 2018, 04:48:53 PM
While the price for a Sebenza is steep I also think if this is the ONE and done knife the price is non issue  :dunno:.  When you total up all the knives we buy over time to try to find the ONE we spend quite a few dollars over time just trying.  If you've found the one knife that does it all and will be carried and carried and carried for years on end then.......... ? 

I'm costing this knife out over say, 5 years, 10 years.  Certainly many have spend that much in gear over 5 years.  I wish I found my ONE and done anything.  Truth is many would still buy and try other knives  :facepalm:.  I would like to hear the Captains thoughts.  I remember when he got his Sebenza. 

Any Sebenza owners want to chime in?

Sorry, didn't read your replay untill just a moment ago.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. While the price is steep, it's more than worth it in my opinion.
Seeing how much use I get out of a clone with limitations (in finish and design) I recon the real Sebenza will last me a lifetime.
Say I live for another 60 years, a Sebenza will be €6,60 per year. You can's even get a new SAK for that.
I've seen and handled a real (large) Sebenza about a year ago and the difference to the clone is stellar. Better finish, better cut, smoother handling.

The funny thing is I would not have bought the clone if I intended to keep using it. I saw the CRN factory tour, heard lavishing reviews and I didn't see it being that good. So I ordered a clone and expected it to end up in a drawer after a week or so. Boy was I wrong. I've EDC's other folders alongside my SAK and always come back to my Smabenza. I'm a bit torn, because I prefer not to buy rip-offs. But I'll probably wear this one down.
In the past I would have easily have spend that amount on gear, but I have other priorities now.

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I've had my eye on this nice boker one hand assist knife. On the edc boards people like to carry a normal knife along with a leatherman or some multitool. With your experience, does the swiss army knife make carrying a regular blade redundant? I'm fleshing out my edc systems and I'm wondering whether or not to get this boker. Thanks!
On further thought, I think for some a secondary dedicated knife to our wonderful SAKs is carried because we just like blades.  Yeah, not quite what was originally asked but I think this is often the case.  I stopped carrying a dedicated folder because I have my MT on me.  Seemed redundant enough to stop.  Later I carried one because I enjoyed carrying one.
What did you decide?

I know you didn't ask me, but the main advantage of carrying a folder is that it opens one handed.
In addition to having a lock, which makes some jobs safer to do.

I got this one pretty cheap really because the guy who had it somehow was not happy with the way it performed and it was not up to his standard or expectations of fit & finish?

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So I asked him whether he had sent it back to Reeves for the "Spa" treatment or worked on it at all himself to try to make it better and he had not?
I had read about the precision in the method that they design and build the knives and figured that if I couldn't make it right the mothership certainly could so I jumped on it expecting problems from the start.

Well I received the knife and there was sort of a grittiness to it and it was actually not as sweet as I knew they should be so I of course took it apart and cleaned all of it and burnished the washers and went to reassemble the knife and right here is where it becomes obvious exactly what it is about these knives that is different to me than all others I have worked with before it!
This is not something I expect anyone else to accept or even understand without trying for themselves but........these knives are manufactured with such great materials, machining and close tolerances that the knife really did almost reassemble itself!

I had sure read about this many times and stored it in my mind but until one is in your hands and you can feel the perfection of the build it is just not easy to appreciate.
It is not just Hype but the Reeves knives are somehow fundamentally better made than most others or at least any that I am familiar with from my own actual experience.

Every single part snaps back into place perfectly.
Contrast this with any of the many Spyderco,Benchmade or ZT I have taken apart and had to fiddle with to get back together and then adjusted correctly once together and it is just a different experience.

In use the knives feel the same way as long as they are clean of course,there is a feel of precision that I just have not experienced anywhere else on a production knife.

Anyway if you have not held or had a Reeves in hand I suggest that you find a way to change that and see for yourself,there is a lot about them that is just sublime to me.
That’s a nice review on the Sebenza.  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 04:58:22 PM
While I have not been enamored with the looks of CRK. 

@ ezdog  :dd: HOLY MOLY sir.  This just changed my mind.  I love the flag on this.  Congrats Sir. 
Title: Re: Edc normal oho knife with a sak?
Post by: Aloha on December 12, 2018, 04:58:48 PM
Those gosh darn "priorities"   :twak:.  It'll happen when those priorities lessen.  I know for me I struggle with the initial cash outlay.  The other thing I do is over rationalize expense.   I'm cheap frugal by nature so theres that too.  What I've always enjoyed from this forum as well as my everyday life experience is members/friends/family who buy things they have always wanted and use the HECK out of them.  The price vs enjoyment is not even close. 

I have a few such items. 

I always remember a story I was told about a lovely woman.  Her husband told me this story with great pride and sadness. His wife managed all the finances.  She was a careful with every penny they had.  He was the sole financial provider in those days.  They made ends meet through her careful managing of money.  Throughout her younger years she always bought the "lessor of" anything she wanted or needed.  Over time as their finances increased she continued to buy the "lessor of" anything she needed or wanted.  Finally she figured she would treat herself.  She had needed and wanted a newer sewing machine.  Hers was in serviceable condition but the newer machines did more.  She used hers quite a lot and made due with its limitations and quirks.  Her husband was handy so he was able to make "fixes" as needed.  She did her research and the machine she wanted costs nearly triple what her "lessor of" choice would normally be.  In those days it was quite an expense for her.  Yes she could get by with "lessor of".  It would last and last.  Or should could continue to make due with her current machine.   

Her decision was made.  She drove down to make her purchase.  On the drive home she was not feeling good about her purchase.  She almost turned her car around to take it back.  She rationalize her decision block by block.  As she pulled up to her home she was almost physically sick.  She gets out and goes straight into her home.  Her husband asks "So, where's this machine?" He's super excited as this is all she's been talking about.   

She said "Its in the car and its probably gonna go back."  Confused, her husband goes to the car as she puts her purse, keys, and other items down.  As he walks out the door she follow him.  He goes to the trunk and pops it open to see her "lessor of" sewing machines.  He's standing there confused.  She's looking at the machine as if she's never seen it before.  He asks, "Why did you get this one when you were going to buy the REALLY nice one?"  She has always bought the "lessor of" and this was no different.  For no other reason she picked the "lessor of" as she's always done. 

Without hesitation he gets into the car and drives away.  A short time later her returns with HER machine.  He takes the machine to her sewing room ( spare bedroom ) and sets it up.  He takes her old machine into the garage and places it into the box the new machine came in.  This whole time she is very anxious.  She unsure about that new machine even tho she knows practically everything about it.  He comes into the room where she's sitting and kisses her head.  He's says nothing and sits and reads the paper.