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MTO Think Tank => Multitool.org R&D Section => Topic started by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 08:38:02 PM

Title: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 08:38:02 PM
My vision of the perfect pocket tool.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57412.0;attach=139947;image)
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: MadPlumbarian on February 04, 2015, 09:12:25 PM
My vision of the perfect pocket tool.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57412.0;attach=139933;image)
Interesting, what's the open channel going passed the hex?
JR
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:13:58 PM
It is tension bar to hold bit in place.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Etherealicer on February 04, 2015, 09:16:04 PM
Interesting, what's the open channel going passed the hex?
JR
Probably a spring, to hold the bit in place.

I like it  :2tu:, except for the box-opener. I prefer to have no pointy edges so I can really just dump it into my pockets... Oh, and you are missing a pocket clip :P
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
I dont like the box opener, people carry this tool would EDC a knife anyway.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 04, 2015, 09:24:07 PM
Box opener = pocket ripper
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 04, 2015, 09:26:45 PM
I'm not much of a one piece tool fan, but to play along... any reason the upper part of the aligator wrench can't be a Phillips? As the centre line would be skewed to the rest of the tool, the flat driver shouldn't be an obstacle
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: JAfromMn on February 04, 2015, 09:27:41 PM
I like it


nice one Kampfer.

Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
Revised
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Etherealicer on February 04, 2015, 09:34:46 PM
I think all meant to have the Pillips in the line of the wrench, so you hold the KPT at an angle when using and thereby the flat screwdriver does not get into the way.

Btw. I would keep the evolution pictures for reference.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: enki_ck on February 04, 2015, 09:38:16 PM
I think Al meant to have the Pillips in the line of the wrench, so you hold the KPT at an angle when using and thereby the flat screwdriver does not get into the way.

Btw. I would keep the evolution pictures for reference.


Yup.

DEFINITELY keeping the evolution pictures should be. (http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/jonathan-rey/star-wars-characters/256/Yoda-02-icon.png)

Otherwise the discussion looses it's meaning.  :salute:
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:38:31 PM
I think all meant to have the Pillips in the line of the wrench, so you hold the KPT at an angle when using and thereby the flat screwdriver does not get into the way.

Btw. I would keep the evolution pictures for reference.
Yea, that was the intend
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: AimlessWanderer on February 04, 2015, 09:43:33 PM
I think all meant to have the Pillips in the line of the wrench, so you hold the KPT at an angle when using and thereby the flat screwdriver does not get into the way.

Btw. I would keep the evolution pictures for reference.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, Etherealicer. I meant in-line/symetrical to the remaining material so thehead is formed evenly. So if the wrench formed an angle of 30 degrees, the centreline of the driver would be at 15 degrees
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:49:34 PM
Drivers revised.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Etherealicer on February 04, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
I think we all meant the same :D

How about making on side of the scraper / pry-bar round (I kinda like the round side from my pocket-wrench, lots of applications)
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
Hard to please you guys.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Etherealicer on February 04, 2015, 10:13:50 PM
Was more thinking about an asymetrical design
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
Like it.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: babola on February 04, 2015, 10:58:38 PM
Not bad for a first draft.

The outward pointing screwdrivers are asking for trouble though, I'd make them parallel to the tool sides, but made one a tiny bit shorter than the other so they're not in a way. I feel 'pain' just by looking at them  ;)
That's however easier said than done, because the shorter screwdriver end will always "suffer" as the longer bit will be in the way.

As for the scraper/pry bar ends, I'd make them asymmetrical similar to what you did in your last photo but ensure the shorter pry tongue is finished in a way to be used as a large flat head screwdriver, so a little thicker than the other pry tongue.

For the bit tension bar....this could be designed in a way to double up as a pocket clip too. You could also add knurling or jimping on the inside of the bar.

Just some of my thoughts...that's all. Keep the dream going!  :salute:
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on February 04, 2015, 11:19:27 PM
I personally don't drivers at the ends of wrench.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: babola on February 05, 2015, 12:45:03 AM
I personally don't drivers at the ends of wrench.

No worries...
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: hellsing on February 05, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
The first one is the best for me.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: lister on February 07, 2015, 10:55:44 PM
Just to check, we are using PWII style teeth for the wrench? I mean this is the only style that makes sense to me...  :D
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Obi1shinobee on March 28, 2015, 03:17:05 AM
My vision of the perfect pocket tool.
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57412.0;attach=139947;image)

kam i need one  :drool:
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: cody6268 on June 20, 2015, 09:44:54 PM
Personally, I think this would be a good accompaniment to any thinner multitool that doesn't include accessories such a as a file. Plus, I wouldn't be afraid of getting this confiscated if I carry it in a place a knife isn't allowed, as there's no blade.

If this knife is ever offered for sale, I'll buy it!

One change is needed though.  Since there's a slot for a screwdriver bit, the screwdrivers are a little redundant.  I think the edges need to be flat and rounded off.


Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: styx on June 21, 2015, 11:06:02 AM
The file is a good idea, but I'm getting the feeling that it might become a bit problematic with some pants material
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on June 21, 2015, 08:31:53 PM
I edc a Surge file, not an issue.
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: styx on June 21, 2015, 10:10:09 PM
Then just tell me where I can sign up?
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: TazzieRob on June 29, 2015, 06:35:22 AM
How would it look side on?  Would it be bent to increase pryability/leverage?
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: zrxoa1 on October 02, 2016, 07:36:52 AM
Did this project go away??

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Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: Kampfer on October 03, 2016, 10:06:36 AM
Did this project go away??

I am a designer, putting my design into reality is never my responsibility.
No kidding, that is what I do for living, design and draw it up, that is it.
 :D
Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: zrxoa1 on October 03, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
Too bad no one was willing to at least make a prototype...

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Title: Re: KPT (Kampfer's Pocket Tool)
Post by: pfrsantos on October 03, 2016, 01:23:00 PM
Did this project go away??

I am a designer, putting my design into reality is never my responsibility.
No kidding, that is what I do for living, design and draw it up, that is it.
 :D

I heard of a guy called Syph007, he might be able to help you make this thing a reality...

 :think: :think: