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Tool Talk => Leatherman Tools => Topic started by: David Bowen on April 05, 2024, 08:19:55 PM
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Seems a survey was conducted on Leatherman owners to see how they carry their tools. This is from r/Leatherman(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240405/910a213ba85efef025823cef90a4a789.jpg)
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Team pocket clip! :woohoo:
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Probably be the same for MTo members. If you could get that many responses, anyway. Might be interesting to poll the inmates here. Best wishes. G
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I received the result survey as well. My question was how 9% carried OTHER ???
I own multiple LM MTs, received the results but never a survey, and approximately 10,000 :think:
The three least expensive MTs have pocket clips, REV, WINGMAN and SIDEKICK.
The SkeleTool too!, The Bond is drilled for one, but a clip is an accessory just as it has been for the WAVE, Charge and Surge.
This indicates that LM needs to bundle clips with models able to be fitted with one by LM
The 9% OTHER, indicated this survey was not actually accurate. 900 respondents do not know how they carry, pocket, truck console, tool box, camp kitchen box, kitchen junk drawer, on the work bench, etc. That catagory would include 70% of my LM MTs😉
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I guess the other 2 percent did not answer.
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The results were in whole numbers. I imagine anything missing is due to rounding off/truncating the fractions. It would have been interesting to see what the 'other' carries were, I think. Looper probably mentioned most of the more obvious answers. It is very likely that many people do more than one carry method. One on a pocket clip. One in the tools. Maybe one in the truck. Best wishes. G
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I can imagine that “Other” may include “I have one in a glove box in my car.” At least one Vnox multitool sits in my car this way to make sure it is ready when needed ;)
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Interesting. I'm in the minority as it seems. I don't like carrying a multitool clipped into my front pockets. It restricts my movements. It's uncomfortable to me.
I use sheaths on the belt or a pocket caddy in the back pocket.
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I use 99% of time to carry my pliers based MTs on sheat and specifically in my modded Gerber CD/DF sheat in horizontally.
Only Tools Matters
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In my pocket.
Like normal people :whistle: :rofl:
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They didn't ask me, and I'm an Insider.
I like a sheath, my pockets have other stuff.
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Weirdly, depends which tool for me.
With an Arc, P2, or P4, I just drop it in the front pocket of my jeans with my keys.
Rebar, Bond, or Crunch, same pocket, but in a sheath.
Just feels right that way.
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I carry with a sheath 5 days a week for work but if I am not at work I either pocket carry or use a pocket clip I'd the tool has one :cheers:
I would still see sheath carry to be what more people do or at least be closer to half :dunno:
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They didn't ask me, and I'm an Insider.
I like a sheath, my pockets have other stuff.
See, that is my point! I think this is false survey, 10,000 replies and not from trusting customers or loyal members of the brand. False news, made up statistics.
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I received the result survey as well. My question was how 9% carried OTHER ???
This is what we have staff for, dear boy. I cannot imagine how they forgot to include this in the options!
As a Swiss Army Knight, my squire carries all the extraneous accoutrements, including a range of Leatherman MTs, for those occasions for which I am required to demonstrate the SAK Superiority, but for which I do not care to sully my own hands.
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See, that is my point! I think this is false survey, 10,000 replies and not from trusting customers or loyal members of the brand. False news, made up statistics.
Seems like a stretch.
Depends why they did the survey, do they actually want to know how people carry their stuff (they already have their own sales statistics for pocket clip models, sheaths, etc)
If it's just a content-generator survey, there's (valid?) reasons to reach out to your more distant customers for their interaction (whether you actually care how they answer, you're putting your name in their mind), not the ones that are already checking your website every day. They're already hooked, you invest your efforts in reaching the fish who are not leaping into your boat - remind them your name exists, etc etc.
Having said that...it doesn't actually say anywhere that it was a survey by leatherman. No logos, it uses the generic term "multitool" - so perhaps Leatherman_Official is just reposting something swiped from somewhere else.
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When I carry an MT, it rides in the little vertical pocket on my 5.11 Taclite Pro pants. Its just right. Takes up no pocket space and no space on the belt.
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I guess some of us carrying a pst in a sheath for 25 years doesn't carry any more weight than some hippie buying a wingman 3 weeks ago and carrying it with a pocket clip twice. :facepalm:
Leatherman, keep answering your own questions so you can produce what you want, retire what you want, and not improve things that us owners and collectors do in our garages every day.
Someday that great company will be gone because it does the adult version of covering its ears and yelling.
Craig
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Funny that they got around 9000 votes somewhere except on reddit or then they posted multiple places and just combined all votes, other MTs included since not specifically mentioned Leatherman as in picture shows(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240407/9dd5c4169561bd16e175df0d6aed3e57.jpg)
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in the bag, but no problem hanging the tool on the belt at any time
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Sheath carry only for me.
The way things are going LM will probably use this to justify discontinuing sheaths being included with their tools.
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:iagree: (https://emoticons.datahamster.com/yes.gif)
Costco has done something similar. Mixed nuts used to be sold in a nice, plastic container with lid. They acted like they were doing us a favor by replacing the container with what is basically a zip lock bag which is not nearly as usable for the consumer. Costco also sells collagen powder, and thought it would be an excellent idea to stop including the $0.05 plastic scoop that used to come with it. All of this is promoted as benefitting the consumer's benefit, when its really done to save $0.05 per unit.
Watch for this from Leatherman: "New and Improved: you asked for it and we answered. A Wave+ without the pesky sheath!"
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:iagree: (https://emoticons.datahamster.com/yes.gif)
Costco has done something similar. Mixed nuts used to be sold in a nice, plastic container with lid. They acted like they were doing us a favor by replacing the container with what is basically a zip lock bag which is not nearly as usable for the consumer. Costco also sells collagen powder, and thought it would be an excellent idea to stop including the $0.05 plastic scoop that used to come with it. All of this is promoted as benefitting the consumer's benefit, when its really done to save $0.05 per unit.
Watch for this from Leatherman: "New and Improved: you asked for it and we answered. A Wave+ without the pesky sheath!"
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I love pocket clips and use one everyday; that's how I carry my BUCK single blade flipper. My EDC MT is a fully accessorized SURGE in a sheath over my right hip. But, Leatherman doesn't offer a sheath that meets my needs. I use a SKINTH PLUS:
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Lately I've had a CORE deep in my front pocket. Sometimes I need one MT to turn the screw and another to grip the nut. And the extra weight keeps me from blowing away on windy days! T-A
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. But, Leatherman doesn't offer a sheath that meets my needs. I use a SKINTH PLUS:
Now THAT'S a sheath!!!! :o
Never heard of it before but I will surely check it out. Everyone knows how much I EDC on a daily basis, but with that I could carry MORE and that's awesome! :rofl:
Craig
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You DEFINITELY need to check out Skinth. The best in the world, IMHO.
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I guess some of us carrying a pst in a sheath for 25 years doesn't carry any more weight than some hippie buying a wingman 3 weeks ago and carrying it with a pocket clip twice. :facepalm:
From a purely business standpoint, I think it's wise to put more more weight on what hippies are buying today rather than what a Leatherman user purchased 25 years ago (and continues to use). They need to continually sell tools to survive, and the market changes over time.
That said, I think everyone is putting too much concern over this poll. I'm fairly certain they did it just to make people think/talk about Leatherman. If they really wanted to know what people want more, big businesses like Leatherman do far more detailed and accurate market research than simple social media polls.
Finally, I just want to add - Team Pocket Clip wins!!! Suck it, losers! :rofl:
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I continue to purchase new Leathermans now that you crazy people turned me into a collector. So me carrying my pst in a sheath for 25 years makes me want to buy LM's that come with one too. The hippies are going to be one and done.
Craig
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You DEFINITELY need to check out Skinth. The best in the world, IMHO.
The Catch All is enormous. I love it!
Craig
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I continue to purchase new Leathermans now that you crazy people turned me into a collector. So me carrying my pst in a sheath for 25 years makes me want to buy LM's that come with one too. The hippies are going to be one and done.
But there are waves and waves of hippies. They reproduce like rabbits, and they all need scented candles, tie-dye shirts, patchouli, and Leathermans. :ahhh :rofl:
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Now THAT'S a sheath!!!! :o
Never heard of it before but I will surely check it out. Everyone knows how much I EDC on a daily basis, but with that I could carry MORE and that's awesome! :rofl:
Craig
Go to the SKINTH online site, choose the model and all the options, like color, type of closure, etc. Make yor purchase, and then they make it for you. In only about 5 weeks it will show up at your door! They are made in Canada and are worth the wait. O
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Very interesting survey .... As mentioned it promoted discussion which is good .... Although it sounds like there are a few cynics amongst us!! :pok: ;)
Surprising result for me - I would have thought sheath would be the winner by a mile
Two obvious options missing from the list for me ..... just pocket ..... and keychain
LMs are pocket-carryable {even some of the mid-sized models (eg Wave)} - But also Juice (me!!), Skele .....and of course LM make several keychain tools
On the SKINTH's - FYI ............. They are made by one of our members here at MT.o - Although not sure how active he is these days
On Costco's reduction in plastic - I am all for it - Surely we can all put up with a little inconvenience for the good of the planet!!
I guess the other 2 percent did not answer.
Good spot - OCD kicking in here ...... ;)
..... Not great survey management for 10,000 users - It should add up to 100% >:(
Assuming they did round the numbers properly - I am not sure rounding could explain a 2% gap for four options (mathematically)
Maybe they just rounded everything down !! ???
This is what we have staff for, dear boy. I cannot imagine how they forgot to include this in the options!
As a Swiss Army Knight, my squire carries all the extraneous accoutrements, including a range of Leatherman MTs, for those occasions for which I am required to demonstrate the SAK Superiority, but for which I do not care to sully my own hands.
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Good spot - OCD kicking in here ...... ;)
..... Not great survey management for 10,000 users - It should add up to 100% >:(
Assuming they did round the numbers properly - I am not sure rounding could explain a 2% gap for four options (mathematically)
Maybe they just rounded everything down !! ???
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May just be that modern math!
Or, as my engineer nephew, who just returned from working a large project in the Northwest, calls it “WEST COAST MATH”, if it does not work out your way, shave of a little to make it look good”