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Title: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 12, 2018, 12:18:07 AM
Back in 2015, I made a folding stove, based loosely on the Emberlit.

Here's a link to the original thread discussing it.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,62174.msg1155898.html

Then, about a week ago, Daverobson started a thread discussing the topic, here...
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75304.0.html

I dusted off the old stove and tried some mods to make it work better, but I think it's just too short.

So I decided to build a new one.

First, I went to the dollar store, and bought some stainless steel cookie sheets. Cost of supplies: $2.18

Then I tinkered around with sizes, trying to figure out the largest stove i could build using two sheets. After laying the pattern out on graph paper, I cut the pieces out and taped them in place on the sheets.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4699/39609093512_c482066154_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23m7Xxo)

That picture is of the front, one side, and the bottom grate. The other pan had two other side pieces and the two crossbar pieces for the top.

Next I traced the pattern with a sharpie, and added some dotted lines about 1/8 inch around each piece. The idea was to give me some spare material I could roll over, because that metal felt REALLY thin.
Here are both pans with patterns laid out.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4620/24770574467_c96dd85367_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DJTEN8)

Then a LOT of work with a pair of sheet metal shears. The Wenger pictured was used to punch the initial hole to get the metal shears into the feed hole for the front.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4650/39609093272_fd6db5945b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23m7Xtf)

Sorry to say I didn't pause to take pictures of work in progress when i went out to the garage. I don't feel like exposing my phone to some place with metal dust flying everywhere. The process was first to do a light sanding around the edges of each piece with the Dremel, so I'd be less likely to cut myself. Then I used dull chisel to start the bends to roll the metal edges. I also used the chisel to put creases running vertically in the sides and front, to strengthen them. I punched holes in the sides and bottom with a nail, and cleaned the edges with the Dremel. Finally, I used the metal cutting wheel on the Dremel to cut the slots in the tabs, and in the crosspieces. After an initial assembly, I went back and increased the depth of the slots in the tabs for a better fit.

The final product, after about 6 hours of work.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/39609093092_e6c9ea760e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23m7Xq9)

And the final stove assembled.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4715/24770574117_49683bca57_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DJTEG6)

I think I might still need to increase the size of the slots that the bottom plate fits into. It's a little tight, and seems to buckle the sides a bit.

This is as-of-yet untested. That will probably be tomorrow. It seems stable, but I'm SUPER glad I rolled the edges and put the creases in. Otherwise, this thing would be really wobbly.

My goal is for it to support a billycan made from a small metal coffee can, holding 2 cups of water. It seems 100% able to do that.

I got the idea to use dollar store cookie sheets from this guy's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WmN6ajFncU

Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: pomsbz on January 12, 2018, 07:01:55 AM
Looking forward to the test!
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Sparky415 on January 12, 2018, 07:38:13 AM

Great job Lynn,
That took a huge amount of work  :salute:

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: eamo on January 12, 2018, 09:40:59 AM
great work, looking forward to the test  :like:
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: styx on January 12, 2018, 09:51:32 AM
as has been said already, looking forward to the testing
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: daverobson on January 12, 2018, 02:18:44 PM
 :tu: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 12, 2018, 04:52:17 PM

Great job Lynn,
That took a huge amount of work  :salute:

 :popcorn:

Oh, sure, but why spend two hour's worth of income when instead I could spend 6 hours, $2, smash my thumb, get metal slivers stuck in my hand, cut myself on jagged metal, get sparks in the face, and generally risk injury for a somewhat inferior product? :D

It's all in the doing. I don't just own this thing, I MADE it. Even if it sucks.

Which it probably will.  :D

Now I just have to work up the energy (as in, drink a cup of coffee), and go fire this thing up.
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: pfrsantos on January 12, 2018, 05:19:04 PM

Great job Lynn,
That took a huge amount of work  :salute:

 :popcorn:

Oh, sure, but why spend two hour's worth of income when instead I could spend 6 hours, $2, smash my thumb, get metal slivers stuck in my hand, cut myself on jagged metal, get sparks in the face, and generally risk injury for a somewhat inferior product? :D

It's all in the doing. I don't just own this thing, I MADE it. Even if it sucks.

Which it probably will.  :D

Now I just have to work up the energy (as in, drink a cup of coffee), and go fire this thing up.

Right you are. Nothing like the felling of a job well done... a job relativelly well done... a finished job... an almost finished job... something you made yourself!

 :salute: :tu:
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 12, 2018, 06:16:55 PM
Right you are. Nothing like the felling of a job well done... a job relativelly well done... a finished job... an almost finished job... something you made yourself!

 :rofl:

Okay, so quick update on the first test.

It... failed. I couldn't get the stove to ignite. Started with a vasoline soaked cotton ball, moved on to a piece of bicycle innertube. Nothing going. The twigs I keep in a pile on my porch for such testing SHOULD have been dry, but we had a heavy fog yesterday, freezing rain last night, and now it's 14F, feels like -2F (-10C feels like -19).

SMURFING cold. And all the kindling was apparently wet (or I guess ice infused). NOTHING would catch. And I'm going to be honest. There's only so much suffering I'm willing to endure to test a twig stove.

So, I'll try again another day. :shrug:
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: styx on January 12, 2018, 10:21:58 PM
if you learned something then it isn't a failure
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Gareth on January 13, 2018, 11:27:49 AM
That's a fab bit of DIY Lynn.  :salute:

The trouble you've had lighting it does somewhat highlight my concern about relying on these type of stoves.  If it's cold, wet and you're hungry, then battling to get a fire going isn't ideal. :-\
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 13, 2018, 03:58:52 PM
Nice work,  LeFey

I don't do as much to keeping/ DIY as I would like.

The Emberlit Fireant looks nice, and I may get one. But then again, for the price of the cookie sheets, some chocolate chip cookie dough and a Dremel, and some time...the perfect motivator to any misbehhaving cookie sheets in the cabineg:

This is what happens to cookie sheets that don't bake cookies properly!
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: pomsbz on January 13, 2018, 05:12:07 PM
the perfect motivator to any misbehhaving cookie sheets in the cabineg:

This is what happens to cookie sheets that don't bake cookies properly!

I like the way you think!
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: Lynn LeFey on January 13, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
Win/win

Either you delicious cookies or a folding stove.
Title: Re: Folding Stove build part 2, The Revenge of Stove!
Post by: ThundahBeagle on January 13, 2018, 11:34:16 PM
Maybe first, some of Pomz Turkey breast. Then the cookies. Oh hell, I'm not a delayed gratification type of person...cookies first!