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Title: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 24, 2016, 09:00:47 AM
Since I don't have a car I'm either using my bike or public transportation. That is why I decided that my FAK should be as small as possible and mostly cover my personal needs.
Most used: Pain-killers, wipes & band-aids

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=66429.0;attach=271002;image)
Pills, band-aid, thick gauze 3x5cm (in the black sleeve), thin gauze to fix the thicker gauze, disinfectant (I'm thinking of replacing that with dextrose), classic (mostly for the scissors to cut band-aid to size especially when using it for fingers), tweezers, lance, hand-drill, wipes.

(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=66429.0;attach=271004;image)
And neatly packed
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 24, 2016, 09:11:47 AM
What is covered

Headache, Pain - I chose Aleve from Roche as this works excellently on me and my wife. Also it is long lasting (up to 12 hours).
Diarrhea - One of the worst thing that can happen if you are on the road.
Throat infection / Sore throat - Well, I had to go to the emergency room last December because of a swollen throat and I've had a sensitive throat all my life so this seems prudent.

Small cuts - band-aids & wipes
Small deeper cut - heavy wound gauze and light gauze. This is intended for a small stabbing wound to your hand when you are careless with your knife or similar.
Splinters, Blisters, Haematoma (especially below a fingernail) - Tweezers, lancet and a small drill.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Poncho65 on May 24, 2016, 04:44:59 PM
Looks like a good kit Etherealicer :cheers:
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: TazzieRob on May 25, 2016, 05:40:15 AM
Where is the small drill?

If used and replaced regularly, the meds should be fine, but how do you know they are still within the expiration date once you cut them down so small?
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: MadPlumbarian on May 25, 2016, 06:10:56 AM
Looks like a good set up, I have a couple fak, a large one that attaches to a backpack, another that is in my edc sling, that is a small tin, and yet another that is even smaller, know those wallet plastic pic holders? Well I used just one piece of those, stashed a few simple bandaids, and a few alcohol wipes, the most simple, and yet it takes up like no room in my wallet.. Here's a pic, sorry don't really have any of the others, but I will give one little piece of advice, one thing I did stick in the smaller tin one, a panty liner, just a small fold up one, they take up very little room, and with tape makes a very good any size, well you get the point.. :whistle:
JR
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/mrssabrina/092cdb216528c937512b5bcdde73826f_zps8awyx6p1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Tomcat_81 on May 25, 2016, 09:44:28 AM
Great personal setup!
What I'd be missing are gloves- I've spent quite some time covered in the blood of some I was helping, and I was always glad to have nirtil-gloves.
The cardplay-box is a brilliant idea!
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 25, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
Where is the small drill?

If used and replaced regularly, the meds should be fine, but how do you know they are still within the expiration date once you cut them down so small?
The drill I will show in detail later...

Meds & Expiration Date:
- These are not life-saving meds if they don't work to their full potential it does not matter.
- I have a fairly high turnover on these meds.
- Expiration date on meds are difficult. It is not in the interest of a Pharma Company to have long lasting med AND proofing shelf life is expensive (I've worked in that field so I know).
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 25, 2016, 11:26:52 AM
Great personal setup!
What I'd be missing are gloves- I've spent quite some time covered in the blood of some I was helping, and I was always glad to have nirtil-gloves.
The cardplay-box is a brilliant idea!
The gloves would fill up the box on their own. And the whole point is to have it tiny, so I can carry it every day. The kit itself is also limited how much it can help with bleeding.

All my other FAKs have gloves of course.
Gloves serve 2 purposes:
- They are easier to sterilize than hands and thereby help keeping the wound clean. However, in a true emergency, this is something you can deal  with later.
- Keep the helper safe from infections. Not something probable (unless you are bleeding yourself, chances of an infection are negligible) it is also something you can worry about later.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: shibafu on May 25, 2016, 12:57:00 PM
In my desk drawer I have a "first aid kit" in an Altoids Smalls tin.  Contents: 2 sticking plasters, 2 paracetomol, 2 ibuprofen, and a 1g tube of superglue.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 25, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
Where is the small drill?
Here you go
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: TazzieRob on May 26, 2016, 08:38:14 AM
Where is the small drill?
Here you go

Ah, I see it in the kit now. What do you use that for in a FAK? Drilling trough a finger/toe nail to relieve blister pressure?
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on May 26, 2016, 09:52:29 AM
Where is the small drill?
Here you go

Ah, I see it in the kit now. What do you use that for in a FAK? Drilling trough a finger/toe nail to relieve blister pressure?
Exactly, before I switched my sword to one with a french guard having to puncture my nails was a common occurrence ::)

I first tried the lance (heated up) but that hurt like hell AND the hole was often too small, so I switched to the drill.
The lance is also useful to get a splinter out and such.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: enki_ck on June 29, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
Nice FAK. :cheers:

I carry this one in my pocket outdoors and underground. Just the bare necessaries, as there is a full kit among us at any time. 

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/Mics/P6290266.jpg)
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh627/enki_ck/Mics/P6290270.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: rishardh on June 30, 2016, 02:21:32 AM

Nice, I like that it's tiny and built to your common needs.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: SAK Guy on June 30, 2016, 02:43:34 AM
A couple of years ago, I bought some cans and supplies off the bay to make up some of these. I just just to threw them into bags.. will shoot pix tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on June 30, 2016, 10:44:34 AM
A couple of years ago, I bought some cans and supplies off the bay to make up some of these. I just just to threw them into bags.. will shoot pix tomorrow.
Is it tomorrow yet? :pok:
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on June 30, 2016, 10:45:55 AM
Nice FAK. :cheers:

I carry this one in my pocket outdoors and underground. Just the bare necessaries, as there is a full kit among us at any time. 
Nice :tu:

I think this is key. If you start putting in more stuff it gets heavier and suddenly you won't be carrying it all the time anymore... and whats the use of a FAK if it is at home, while you are not.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: SAK Guy on June 30, 2016, 07:08:53 PM
Cans, contents, supplies and commercial kits. Still really never nailed down how I want these to go....bought a couple of commercial kits in the interim. Even threw together another sewing kit back then.

Crummy pic...it was very early this morning.
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz256/SAKGuy/Med%20kit%20contents%20and%20commercial%20packs_zpssp9j66dg.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: powernoodle on June 30, 2016, 07:28:52 PM
Most used: Pain-killers, wipes & band-aids

I love these small, pocketable FAKs and Altoids "convenience" kits.  They are good to carry anytime you are out and about.  You can also make a giveaway kit consisting of just a wipe and a band-aid in a 3x3" ziplock.

One addition to consider is a thin feminine hygiene pad (folded over for storage) as a temporary blood stopper.  They take up very little space.

Of course, that would require knowing a female to steal one from, which rules out most of us.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: powernoodle on June 30, 2016, 07:44:42 PM
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag137/toddh6/c6e1dd82-22a5-4d81-b3b6-c1802c6cf69a_zpsdigqeean.jpg)
This is more of an "convenience" kit than a FAK, but it serves the same purpose: 

- 2x Wet Ones antibacterial wipes
- 3x Band-aids
- 5x Advil
- 4x Tums
- 2x Immodium
- 2x Benadryl
- dental floss
- nail clipper
- Victorinox Classic SD
- Fox 40 Micro whistle
- 4x safety pins
- 1x paper clip

Kit is contained in an Altoid can with a thick rubber band around it.  Drop it in the pocket, and be the hero when someone has a boo boo, wardrobe malfunction or tummy ache.  Small victories.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on July 01, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
I love these small, pocketable FAKs and Altoids "convenience" kits.  They are good to carry anytime you are out and about.  You can also make a giveaway kit consisting of just a wipe and a band-aid in a 3x3" ziplock.
Yay, wallet carry FAK :tu: That is a good idea.

One addition to consider is a thin feminine hygiene pad (folded over for storage) as a temporary blood stopper.  They take up very little space.
I have a thick gauze (50x50x3.5mm / in the black plastic sleeve). Best I can do with my limited space.
I also think that those feminine hygiene pad use chemicals to reduce smell and bind fluid/blood. Anyone done some research if that is good on a bleeding wound?

Of course, that would require knowing a female to steal one from, which rules out most of us.
My wife forbids me to use the word "mine" and insists on using "ours"...
She also claims rights to my complete SAK/MT/Knife/Axe/Weapons collection including my precious lightsaber :o
Of course that goes both ways, I can wear her heels whenever I want :P
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Poncho65 on July 02, 2016, 01:11:40 AM
I carry an assortment of bandaids in my wallet at all times, even have butterfly stiches  :cheers: my little girl always comes to me whenever she gets cut scrape or a bug bite and asks for them :D she use to call the aide bands when she was little but she still knew who always have them :cheers: I keep some FAK stuff in my EDC Altoid tin as well, like triple antibiotic ointment in small packets and anti itch stuff for bug bites  :tu:
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Tomcat_81 on July 02, 2016, 09:56:40 PM
My wife forbids me to use the word "mine" and insists on using "ours"...
She also claims rights to my complete SAK/MT/Knife/Axe/Weapons collection including my precious lightsaber :o
Of course that goes both ways, I can wear her heels whenever I want :P

You know, there's only so much one man's imagination can take for one day.
Time to open that red wine and drink Etheralicer on heels out of my mind.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on July 03, 2016, 10:00:24 AM
My wife forbids me to use the word "mine" and insists on using "ours"...
She also claims rights to my complete SAK/MT/Knife/Axe/Weapons collection including my precious lightsaber :o
Of course that goes both ways, I can wear her heels whenever I want :P

You know, there's only so much one man's imagination can take for one day.
Time to open that red wine and drink Etheralicer on heels out of my mind.
And mighty graceful I am

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Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: charlie fox on July 03, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
I always carry a small FAK in all of my bags, but have only just recently started carrying a mini kit in my cargo pocket again. Why? We care for a very active 3 year old who loves being outdoors and tends to find herself on the receiving end of cuts, scrapes, bites or other unpleasantness frequently. I have a snack sized Ziplock (about half the size of a sandwich bag) in which I carry:

10 Bandaids (they were Snoopy, but I was informed the Frozen ones are better)
2 large patch Bandaids (one for each knee)
4 BZK wipes - no sting
4 Sting Kill wipes
2 packets of antibacterial cream

When our kids were smaller I carried a similar kit. Funny how some things never go out of style.
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Etherealicer on September 15, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
For no other reason than it's mighty cool, I added a rescue knife aka blunted bakers knife

I think that is a pretty neat rescue knife
PRO:
- small and light-weight
- slender, slightly curved, hellish sharp blade
- trusted quality
CON:
- not locking
- not OHO
- small
Title: Re: Tiny First Aid Kit (FAK)
Post by: Poncho65 on September 26, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Nice addition Eth :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: