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Title: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Lynn LeFey on June 12, 2015, 11:58:09 PM
A Texas man and his dog died of heat exhaustion when the electrical system in his dream car, a corvette, failed, leaving him unable to unlock the doors or roll down the windows.

A $10 ResQMe on his keychain or other glass breaker would have prevented this tragedy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-72-dies-trapped-corvette-dream-car-article-1.2253934
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Don Pablo on June 13, 2015, 12:03:39 AM
Terrible way to go.  :cry:
But cant you use any metal object to break the glass, as long as it has a bit of weight?
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Lynn LeFey on June 13, 2015, 12:22:21 AM
Well... no. Not always.

This is an older man, and while inside a car, you have limited capacity to get a metal object swinging. Car glass is shockingly resilient. As in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crDLLE9yBvg
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Demel on June 13, 2015, 01:43:40 AM
Wow. Never knew that. Sad to hear

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Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: zoidberg on June 13, 2015, 02:04:07 AM
That is very sad news.
Knowing there was a manual release for the door also would have done the job.
Breaking windows from the outside is different and smaller windows flex less making them harder to break.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Aloha on June 13, 2015, 02:22:03 AM
I have a spring loaded center punch in my truck that I believe would do the trick. 
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Lynn LeFey on June 13, 2015, 02:24:38 AM
Yep. That'll do it.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: SAK Guy on June 13, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
A ALOX awl would work as well...it's not that great force is required it's to concentrate enough force in a tiny spot.

Used to have these in every vehicle....

http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html

Aloha beat me to it... :cheers:
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Weasel on June 13, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
That's sad and a bad way to go


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Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: NKlamerus on June 13, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
What is it with people not reading an owners manual.

If your going to own a car, you need to understand it.

I feel terrible for the family and It's extremely upsetting.

But a glass breaker would have worked, or ANY common sense from anyone outside the vehicle.

Why didn't the waitress/waiter see the phone either? Waffle House's are tiny. And usually someone wipes the seats and tables once you leave.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Grant Lamontagne on June 15, 2015, 12:05:43 PM
I think we are missing the obvious here- windshields are very easy to push out.  All he needed to do was get his feet up there and push with his back and legs and it would have popped out and the only damage to the car would have been a few light scratches on the hood and maybe a bent wiper or two.

Def
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: pfrsantos on June 15, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
A Texas man and his dog died of heat exhaustion when the electrical system in his dream car, a corvette, failed, leaving him unable to unlock the doors or roll down the windows.

A $10 ResQMe on his keychain or other glass breaker would have prevented this tragedy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-72-dies-trapped-corvette-dream-car-article-1.2253934

Why didn't he shoot the windows?!?!

 :think: :think: :think: :think:
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: SAK Guy on June 15, 2015, 04:19:21 PM
A Texas man and his dog died of heat exhaustion when the electrical system in his dream car, a corvette, failed, leaving him unable to unlock the doors or roll down the windows.

A $10 ResQMe on his keychain or other glass breaker would have prevented this tragedy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-72-dies-trapped-corvette-dream-car-article-1.2253934

Why didn't he shoot the windows?!?!

 :think: :think: :think: :think:

I would of.....just been looking for an excuse.......   ;)
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: NKlamerus on June 15, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
I think we are missing the obvious here- windshields are very easy to push out.  All he needed to do was get his feet up there and push with his back and legs and it would have popped out and the only damage to the car would have been a few light scratches on the hood and maybe a bent wiper or two.

Def
Why didn't I think of that lol

However at 72 years old his flexibility might night be up to par. Atleast in a Corvette anyways.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: rebel on August 03, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
I just saw this and wow. How horrible. I hope his wife sues GM for a few trillion dollars. There is no excuse for car manufacturers building death traps with doors that require electricity to open. When you are inside a car and you pull on the door handle it better open. Period. The so-called safety lobby has been doing a lot of harmful things for a long time between doors that don't open and air bags that kill drivers, somebody has to stop the insanity.

It might not be easy or even possible to kick out the windshield on that car. The dash is very wide front to back and the seat restricts your movement, you have a console and a thick steering wheel. You need to be fairly acrobatic and skinny to get from the driver's seat to the passenger's seat with the doors closed. The angle is such that you might not be able to swing around and get your feet on the glass. I can't remember and it's been awhile but I don't think it would have been that easy, especially when somebody is panicking in a hot car.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: raistlin65 on August 03, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
I think we are missing the obvious here- windshields are very easy to push out.  All he needed to do was get his feet up there and push with his back and legs and it would have popped out and the only damage to the car would have been a few light scratches on the hood and maybe a bent wiper or two.

Def
Why didn't I think of that lol

However at 72 years old his flexibility might night be up to par. Atleast in a Corvette anyways.

I'm not that old, but I'm 6' 7". I'm pretty sure I couldn't get my legs out from under the steering wheel to accomplish that no matter if I was 20 years old again. (lol)

But more seriously, I keep a ResQMe in my glove box. Everyone should have one (or something) for just in case.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: NKlamerus on August 03, 2015, 10:18:42 PM
I think we are missing the obvious here- windshields are very easy to push out.  All he needed to do was get his feet up there and push with his back and legs and it would have popped out and the only damage to the car would have been a few light scratches on the hood and maybe a bent wiper or two.

Def
Why didn't I think of that lol

However at 72 years old his flexibility might night be up to par. Atleast in a Corvette anyways.

I'm not that old, but I'm 6' 7". I'm pretty sure I couldn't get my legs out from under the steering wheel to accomplish that no matter if I was 20 years old again. (lol)

But more seriously, I keep a ResQMe in my glove box. Everyone should have one (or something) for just in case.
I'm 6'4" and I have done it. (Not actually pushed the window, but rest my feet on the dash of a C7)

Although I am 20 lol

They should have tried the "Fireman's Finger" on the window too! That's some crazy stuff!!
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Kampfer on August 04, 2015, 11:00:19 PM
I had zip tied ResQMe to hand break release handle on both of our cars since I joined MTO.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: Syncop8r on August 17, 2015, 11:41:31 AM
In today's news...  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/71190808/police-get-windowsmashing-tools-after-dramatic-sinking-car-rescue-photos
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: rebel on August 17, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
I had zip tied ResQMe to hand break release handle on both of our cars since I joined MTO.

Has anybody who has one of those actually tested it on a car window? I tried to watch some of the videos on the homepage for that company but I just couldn't stand the eternal wait to actually see any content so I gave up. Sounds like a good concept but does it work?
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: styx on August 17, 2015, 04:24:54 PM
I had zip tied ResQMe to hand break release handle on both of our cars since I joined MTO.

Has anybody who has one of those actually tested it on a car window? I tried to watch some of the videos on the homepage for that company but I just couldn't stand the eternal wait to actually see any content so I gave up. Sounds like a good concept but does it work?

This might help you out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1J30v89gtY
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: rebel on August 18, 2015, 06:52:46 PM
Thanks, that's short and to the point. The only questions are who is that guy and how does he not mind slicing his seatbelt and breaking his window. I would guess somebody was paying for that unless the guy likes destroying stuff for fun. That kindof makes the video questionable.
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: styx on August 18, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
It also could have been a dump yard vehicle that was set to get crushed anyway
Title: Re: Sad tale that a simple glass breaker could have prevented
Post by: raistlin65 on August 18, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
Thanks, that's short and to the point. The only questions are who is that guy and how does he not mind slicing his seatbelt and breaking his window. I would guess somebody was paying for that unless the guy likes destroying stuff for fun. That kindof makes the video questionable.

You could check out his YouTube about page. He's a tactical training expert and CEO of SIG Group, Australia, which does tactical and security training. So one of these organizations that provides a lot of training, tests, and tips videos online to built their company reputation. I imagine that they could easily afford it.