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Title: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 01, 2017, 05:28:18 PM
Hi, All!


Just got a "Marketing Calender 2017_No. 1" from Victorinox local dealer
There are a lot of interesting and absolutely new (I hope) models:
Sounds great, isn't it?  :like:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on February 01, 2017, 05:30:47 PM
Hunter Pro alox??  :ahhh

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 01, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
Hunter Pro alox??  :ahhh
The same feelings...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 01, 2017, 05:33:38 PM
Any idea what the LE 2017 color is?


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 01, 2017, 05:36:06 PM
Any idea what the LE 2017 color is?


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Sure.
I've forgot attach a link to this document - I've uploaded it to the my blog: https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: SAK Guy on February 01, 2017, 05:36:54 PM
Winemaster!!!!   :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on February 01, 2017, 05:39:26 PM
There is also the House of Switzerland Fieldmaster
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 01, 2017, 05:41:04 PM
Thanks Leaf... can't wait to get my hands on them LE 2017


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 01, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
Wow that greenish alox looks nice... tiny picture but at least it's a clue.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 01, 2017, 05:51:13 PM
(https://leaf-vics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/le2017.png)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on February 01, 2017, 05:52:45 PM
Very nice. Too bad there's no pic of the Hunter Pro Alox.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: u99 on February 01, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Very interesting  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: metasyntax on February 01, 2017, 06:26:21 PM
Kinda boring. I could see myself with a hardwood Forester or carbon Cybertool, if I have extra money to spend. I'm not a fan of the Hunter Pro, but I could try it again if they got rid of the blade play. But nothing is really ground breaking. The Spartan PS looks like the cracked ice series which was so expensive.

Thanks for sharing! :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on February 01, 2017, 06:34:14 PM
Any idea what the LE 2017 color is?


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Sure.
I've forgot attach a link to this document - I've uploaded it to the my blog: https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox

Thanks for sharing!

REALLY curious about that alox hunter pro!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Forklift on February 01, 2017, 06:44:43 PM
What does "Workman range with liner lock system" mean?
The picture with it appears to be a wood scaled forester.
If you look at the 2003 catalog pages on SAKwiki, the Outrider, Hercules, and Workchamp are in a category called "Pocket Tools with Locking Blade for Workmen"
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on February 01, 2017, 07:00:10 PM
What does "Workman range with liner lock system" mean?
The picture with it appears to be a wood scaled forester.

Maybe they're implying the wood scales will be available across the 111mm range?  Just a guess.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 01, 2017, 07:05:42 PM
Really nice and subdued shade of green on that alox. Sadly the X isn't included in the holy trinity.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Guardian on February 01, 2017, 07:31:06 PM
Thanks for the info  :like:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Sneider on February 01, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
Very interesting!  :ahhh Thanks for sharing  :tu:
There are a few things I am looking forward to...  :)
 
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mactire404 on February 01, 2017, 09:45:38 PM
(https://assets.victorinox.com/mam/celum/celum_assets/d1c/94c/8852159037470_celum_116943_1280Wx1120H.jpg)
The Nespresso Alox Pioneer is kinda interesting.
Each knife had scales made out of recycled aluminium from Nespresso cups.

It has a engraving/laser etch on the blade
(http://www.knife.ru/sites/default/files/uploads/news/victorinox-pioneer.jpg)

(https://pics.ricardostatic.ch/ImgUsers/2/8/844/84413/8441379/844137918_3_Big.jpg)
And a Nespresso logo on the back.

I had a hard time finfing it online, but the price is around €38,- ex shipping.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Reinier on February 01, 2017, 09:50:08 PM
Nice, just saw it on Facebook too. Very curious about that Carbon one. XAVT? That's not new?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Smashie on February 01, 2017, 10:03:48 PM
Nice, just saw it on Facebook too. Very curious about that Carbon one. XAVT? That's not new?

XAVT is re-introduced, I don't think they've made it for a few years
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 01, 2017, 10:20:48 PM
What does "Workman range with liner lock system" mean?
The picture with it appears to be a wood scaled forester.

Maybe they're implying the wood scales will be available across the 111mm range?  Just a guess.

Hmm. Either would be nice; hope the scales allow for the toothpick and tweezers...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on February 01, 2017, 10:23:18 PM
 :o :think: :D 8)
thanks for posting the LIST!!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Reinier on February 01, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Nice, just saw it on Facebook too. Very curious about that Carbon one. XAVT? That's not new?

XAVT is re-introduced, I don't think they've made it for a few years

I guess you're right!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: The Lone Wanderer on February 02, 2017, 12:34:27 AM
Oh those are nice, I like that green color on that a lot!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 02, 2017, 12:43:18 AM
Wondering which model will have the damast blade this year.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Smashie on February 02, 2017, 12:48:04 AM
Wondering which model will have the damast blade this year.

I'm hoping for a 5+ layer, but I think I'm going to have to wait
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 02, 2017, 01:09:08 AM
Wondering which model will have the damast blade this year.

I'm hoping for a 5+ layer, but I think I'm going to have to wait

It will be hard to top last year, but a 58mm would be cool, a Classic or Rambler.

A SwissChamp or a CT41 would be nice too!  :tu:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Blade runner on February 02, 2017, 01:14:50 AM
Nespresso Livanto?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mr. Whippy on February 02, 2017, 01:16:24 AM
Hunter Pro alox??  :ahhh

Oooh! That makes me all wiggly! :dd:

And the cybertool M sounds interesting
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 02, 2017, 04:14:09 AM
Thanks for the info.   :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: lister on February 02, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
I notice a disturbing lack of farmer X on that list...  :ahhh  :rant:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on February 02, 2017, 11:09:20 AM
Thanks for the info. From what ive seen so far there is still nothing if interesting to me personally on the list.
I expected to see some "actual" new models on the 91 and specially the 84mm line. Maybe some new alox 93 model. Meaning new tools/tool combinations.
This is just  regular old models with fancy new scales or special edition's for the most part. Great for collectors but of no interest for a user like me  :-\
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on February 02, 2017, 11:26:43 AM
Only a little more innovation than Leatherman

Victorinox needs young blood in his I+D+I department
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 02, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
I notice a disturbing lack of farmer X on that list...  :ahhh  :rant:
Did someone say Farmer X?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 02, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
Ranger Alox would have been nice


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 02, 2017, 11:40:19 AM
Ranger Alox would have been nice


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on February 02, 2017, 11:47:40 AM
Victorinox, I will give you what people is expecting from you:

- Get back Vic 84 mm scissors
- More 74, 84, 91 and 93 mm alox models
- Rambler alox
- More tools for 74 mm line!!!
- Bladeless Saks
- MULTITOOLS: Alternatives to LM Juice and Squirt

And over all:
- A custom SAK service
People will pay high prices for a Victorinox factory custom built SAK
Personalization of tools, scales, liners, layers...
Do this and you will be winners!!!

P.S.:
Innovation is not new alox colors and limited editions.
That is SAD and RIDICULOUS!!!
 
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Storky on February 02, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
Victorinox, I will give you what people is expecting from you:

- Get back Vic 84 mm scissors
- More 74, 84, 91 and 93 mm alox models
- Rambler alox
- More tools for 74 mm line!!!
- Bladeless Saks
- MULTITOOLS: Alternatives to LM Juice and Squirt

And over all:
- A custom SAK service
People will pay high prices for a Victorinox factory custom built SAK
Personalization of tools, scales, liners, layers...
Do this and you will be winners!!!

P.S.:
Innovation is not new alox colors and limited editions.
That is SAD and RIDICULOUS!!!

+1000  :salute:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ducttapetech on February 02, 2017, 12:44:30 PM
I notice a disturbing lack of farmer X on that list...  :ahhh  :rant:
Did someone say Farmer X?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)
:rofl:

So from what I am seeing, Vic is just regurgitating there old stuff. Still like some of the colours thoughs.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: lister on February 02, 2017, 12:49:18 PM
I notice a disturbing lack of farmer X on that list...  :ahhh  :rant:
Did someone say Farmer X?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

Yes, I did, but I want a black one!

But seriously, the farmer X must have been the must wanted model of alox X.  :rant:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on February 02, 2017, 12:57:24 PM
Please give the world a Rancher X!

Or at least give me one  :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 02, 2017, 01:02:06 PM
Please give the world a Rancher X!

Or at least give me one  :D
Did someone say Rancher X?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/32623616266_29df756e86_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww)Rancher X (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on February 02, 2017, 01:08:25 PM
Please give the world a Rancher X!

Or at least give me one  :D
Did someone say Rancher X?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/32623616266_29df756e86_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww)Rancher X (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr

Much appreciated mag-izzle. Where would we be without you?  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 02, 2017, 01:17:04 PM
Please give the world a Rancher X!

Or at least give me one  :D
Did someone say Rancher X?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/32623616266_29df756e86_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww)Rancher X (https://flic.kr/p/RGQyww) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr

Much appreciated mag-izzle. Where would we be without you?  :cheers:
My pleasure G-Fiddy  :tu:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on February 02, 2017, 02:21:37 PM
Nice, just saw it on Facebook too. Very curious about that Carbon one. XAVT? That's not new?
According to the Vic blurp it is "forged Carbon", so my hopes are up that it is really carbon and not just painted to look like carbon.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on February 02, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
Victorinox, I will give you what people is expecting from you:

- Get back Vic 84 mm scissors
- More 74, 84, 91 and 93 mm alox models
- Rambler alox
- More tools for 74 mm line!!!
- Bladeless Saks
- MULTITOOLS: Alternatives to LM Juice and Squirt

And over all:
- A custom SAK service
People will pay high prices for a Victorinox factory custom built SAK
Personalization of tools, scales, liners, layers...
Do this and you will be winners!!!

P.S.:
Innovation is not new alox colors and limited editions.
That is SAD and RIDICULOUSPROFITABLE!!!
Corrected :cry:

- Rambler alox: Yes that I can get behind
- 74/84mm and the whole Ex-Wenger you can scrap for all I care. I d'rather they focus on fewer lines (58/91/93/111) but offer more varieties in those.
- Bladeless SAK: You got it in the new USB-drive SAKS :D
- Custom SAK: Love the idea but it will not happen. Several reasons why. Collectors are more willing to pay premium (you don't want to use a 300$ SAK as a hammer). Unlike limited runs, custom SAKs immediately loose all value and their re-sale value is more like a regular SAK.

Things I would like to see:
- Wenger Business Tool style Scissors in 91mm frame
- 91mm in alox

Actually the more specialized the tools get, the less useful they are. The flat screwdriver can perform so many functions, whereas a T25 can do exactly one thing and that is not the idea behind a SAK/MT
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 02, 2017, 11:22:09 PM
Nespresso Livanto?

Yes, I wonder if they will run through all the flavors/colors, that will be fun.  :tu:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 02, 2017, 11:57:27 PM
Actually the more specialized the tools get, the less useful they are. The flat screwdriver can perform so many functions, whereas a T25 can do exactly one thing and that is not the idea behind a SAK/MT

Exactly, and what I found out yesterday. I needed to remove a hard drive from an old laptop for recycling. I have a (lone) CyberTool and things were going well until I came to the T6 screws that held the disc in the drive, the CT doesn't have one.

 :facepalm:

So I went to get my plus kit for my Spirit and it didn't have one!

 :facepalm:

I do have the cheapo set from Home Depot with the 4mm bits that fit the CyberTool, so I used that.  :tu: I now have the CT and a little bag of bits in my kit.

 :facepalm:

I could have used a big hammer too I suppose.  :D

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Storky on February 03, 2017, 07:53:08 AM

Exactly, and what I found out yesterday. I needed to remove a hard drive from an old laptop for recycling. I have a (lone) CyberTool and things were going well until I came to the T6 screws that held the disc in the drive, the CT doesn't have one.

 :facepalm:

Mine CT41 have one  :D
I bought a T6/T8 bit as spare part. Very usefull for Torx screws on knives, computers, ....

Some more informations on the book coming 2017.
The title is:
"The Swiss Army Knife Book - 63 Outdoor Projects"
It's the english translatet version of the german speaking book by Felix Immler which was published in Spring 2015.
A really good read  :tu:
You can find Felix Immler and his outdoor/bushcraft projects on youtube.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on February 03, 2017, 08:44:29 AM
Actually the more specialized the tools get, the less useful they are. The flat screwdriver can perform so many functions, whereas a T25 can do exactly one thing and that is not the idea behind a SAK/MT

Exactly, and what I found out yesterday. I needed to remove a hard drive from an old laptop for recycling. I have a (lone) CyberTool and things were going well until I came to the T6 screws that held the disc in the drive, the CT doesn't have one.

 :facepalm:

So I went to get my plus kit for my Spirit and it didn't have one!

 :facepalm:

I do have the cheapo set from Home Depot with the 4mm bits that fit the CyberTool, so I used that.  :tu: I now have the CT and a little bag of bits in my kit.

 :facepalm:

I could have used a big hammer too I suppose.  :D
Yeah, if you are in computer repair I highly recommend to get the T6/T8 and the T10/T15 bit for the CT. With Apple product and many newer laptops these get more and more common. T25 you also encounter but sadly there is no original CT bit for that.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 03, 2017, 11:05:15 AM
The Spirit plus bits include the T25 and I think I have a good assortment of those down to T10, also the ST versions. The trouble is the small ones, and as they make them smaller and smaller I guess there will be need for T1 and possibly fractional sizes, but I will also need a good magnifier at that point!  :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 03, 2017, 11:17:59 AM
Did someone say Good Magnifier?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/501/32301936400_a2cfe7f2e4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW)good magnifier (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr

Anyone else sick of this yet?  :pok:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ducttapetech on February 03, 2017, 11:21:42 AM
Did someone say Good Magnifier?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/501/32301936400_a2cfe7f2e4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW)good magnifier (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr

Anyone else sick of this yet?  :pok:
Lol! Not me.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 03, 2017, 11:42:08 AM
Did someone say Good Magnifier?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/501/32301936400_a2cfe7f2e4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW)good magnifier (https://flic.kr/p/RdpSiW) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr

Anyone else sick of this yet?  :pok:
Lol! Not me.
Skulls for the Skull Throne!  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 03, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
This one's for you Nate  :cheers: Space Marine X with young friend.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/355/32302448270_afb3ff7fb5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rdsuth)chaos marine x (https://flic.kr/p/Rdsuth) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ducttapetech on February 03, 2017, 12:25:17 PM
This one's for you Nate  :cheers: Space Marine X with young friend.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/355/32302448270_afb3ff7fb5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Rdsuth)chaos marine x (https://flic.kr/p/Rdsuth) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
:rofl: :rofl:
Love it! Thanks Mags!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: byhsu on February 03, 2017, 11:23:46 PM
i would like a Cadet with scissors, and offer it in Blue, Red, Orange, Purple, Black, Green, Silver, Grey.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 05, 2017, 12:53:34 PM
Somebody over at Swiss Army Knives Collectores group on FB recently shared a pic of the 2017 catalogue...

The same guy also mentioned that the Angler and Fisherman are no longer in the catalogue...


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 05, 2017, 01:03:36 PM
Was just browsing Victorinox's global site:

https://www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/c/SAK_MediumPocketKnives#sak-size

Harvester is now called Pioneer 7. Solo is now called Pioneer 1. Is this something new or has been the case for sometime?

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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 05, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
Was just browsing Victorinox's global site:

https://www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/c/SAK_MediumPocketKnives#sak-size

Harvester is now called Pioneer 7. Solo is now called Pioneer 1. Is this something new or has been the case for sometime?

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Seems, it's a global process of rename. Last year Cybertool series changed their names fom 29, 34, 41 to S, M, L. Looks like the same process for 93mm Alox seried is coming.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mr. Whippy on February 05, 2017, 02:14:39 PM
Was just browsing Victorinox's global site:

https://www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/c/SAK_MediumPocketKnives#sak-size

Harvester is now called Pioneer 7. Solo is now called Pioneer 1. Is this something new or has been the case for sometime?

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Seems, it's a global process of rename. Last year Cybertool series changed their names fom 29, 34, 41 to S, M, L. Looks like the same process for 93mm Alox seried is coming.

Not good...

The Farmer is an entity unto itself.  Not  Pioneer S or 3 or whatever >:(
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 05, 2017, 03:02:14 PM
Here in Germany (and maybe other countries) the Pioneers always had weird and cryptic names. For instance the Harvester has always(?) been Pioneer Series 6... which is a dreary & unhelpful name for a SAK, especially when there's no photo of it, as on this website:

http://www.funktionelles.de/Messer-Tools/Taschenmesser/Victorinox-Pionier-Serie.htm?shop=life&SessionId=&a=catalog&t=31118&c=39270&p=39270

The Electrician and Farmer are exceptions for some reason and are called the Electrician and Farmer, but the others are Pioneer Series 1,2,3 etc.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 05, 2017, 03:08:51 PM
Funny, the site has no listing for the electrician

Pioneer, Farmer and Pioneer X retains their names...

On the other hand, the site did say that only the popular models are listed on the site... for complete list, consult the catalogue...


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on February 06, 2017, 01:36:09 PM
Was just browsing Victorinox's global site:

https://www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/c/SAK_MediumPocketKnives#sak-size

Harvester is now called Pioneer 7. Solo is now called Pioneer 1. Is this something new or has been the case for sometime?

In the 2013 and 2015 catalogues I have, the Pioneer, Farmer and Electrician are the only 93mm models with names.  The others were listed as things like "Pocket knife Alox (7 functions)" in the 2015 catalogue, and just model numbers in the 2013 one.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: lister on February 06, 2017, 03:20:17 PM
There are two things I am still looking forward to in my life: farmer X and Half life III, and it seems I am getting neither this year.  :twak:

 :rofl:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on February 06, 2017, 03:36:03 PM
There are two things I am still looking forward to in my life: farmer X and Half life III, and it seems I am getting neither this year.  :twak:

 :rofl:

Sigh..... Did somebody mention Farmer X?  :ahhh
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

Ixnay on the Armer Fexnay!  :twak:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 06, 2017, 03:50:25 PM
There are two things I am still looking forward to in my life: farmer X and Half life III, and it seems I am getting neither this year.

If you will it, Dude, it is no dream!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 10, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
Alox LE 2017

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/759efc68ecf8755b21fd5c1b2519a05e.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 10, 2017, 09:48:10 PM
Spartan BO, Cybertool Carbon

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/1854e0e3be0062788538e96820f0bb13.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 10, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
Winemaster?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/42df8f9d738ae65069ffccf59742fb98.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on February 10, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
And finally...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/6142ca6f461d91acb3c6dd1d07c41594.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 10, 2017, 11:30:03 PM
And finally...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/6142ca6f461d91acb3c6dd1d07c41594.jpg)

Ooooh... what is it!? Damast; 111mm; no corkscrew? 2 layer? Centurion?

Any word on the new liner lock models?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on February 11, 2017, 12:34:57 AM
OH SNAP.........................  :gimme:
 
:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on February 11, 2017, 01:17:52 AM
The Spartan doesn't look like BO to me though looking at this top angle(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/e3ba29095e10f406650e04ee6825301c.jpg)


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: JamesJ on February 11, 2017, 01:31:06 AM
Always love seeing Farmer X and Horse X.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: moonweasel on February 11, 2017, 09:11:43 AM
What are the scales on the Damasus I wonder, I hope not the usual nylon/celidor offerings.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 11, 2017, 09:25:47 AM
What are the scales on the Damasus I wonder, I hope not the usual nylon/celidor offerings.
Looks like very dark wood to me...

Now all I have to do is find a spare couple of hundred bucks - that 111mm Damascus looks like a winner to me.
I hope they don't make a balls up of the blade like they did with last year's grey X... pretty sure the metal wasn't supposed to be cloudy like that.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jnoxyd on February 11, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
 ???
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 11, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
Translation: It's an Outrider without korkenzieher - (corkscrew) and Ahl (awl).
God-knows what "epicur Ian" is supposed to be.... some kind of funky wood I guess.

How they managed to mangle the text so badly we'll never know.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on February 11, 2017, 11:47:18 AM
 :o LAMINATED Plywood! ??


That kinda stuff on a knife reminds me of Frost...."FROST WOOD" that rainbow Laminated stuff. :td: :pommel: :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 11, 2017, 11:57:29 AM
Not an Outrider, more like a Nomad or Centurion, unless 3 layers, and definitely has backtools you can see in LeaF's 1st pic. I disagree with whoever wrote that, the pics say different.

The scales look a lot like the ebony LE Climber. That would be my guess.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 11, 2017, 12:00:46 PM
The corkscrew Ranger is just weird.  :think:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on February 11, 2017, 12:28:10 PM
Hold it...here we go! ( NOTHING LIKE THE FROST WOOD)  :ahhh :multi:

EPICUREAN
http://www.epicureancs.com/about/

Every Epicurean product is 100% made in the USA.
Our History ~
Epicurean was born out of a company making eco-friendly municipal skate parks. The wood composite we used in our ramps is extremely durable and non-porous, but also food safe and dishwasher safe. We started using the excess material to create cutting boards as gifts for family and friends. Demand soared and we began producing and selling a variety of kitchen tools from this wood composite.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: moonweasel on February 11, 2017, 12:33:49 PM
Hold it...here we go! ( NOTHING LIKE THE FROST WOOD)  :ahhh :multi:

EPICUREAN
http://www.epicureancs.com/about/

Every Epicurean product is 100% made in the USA.
Our History ~
Epicurean was born out of a company making eco-friendly municipal skate parks. The wood composite we used in our ramps is extremely durable and non-porous, but also food safe and dishwasher safe. We started using the excess material to create cutting boards as gifts for family and friends. Demand soared and we began producing and selling a variety of kitchen tools from this wood composite.
I think we have a winner.
And that front page picture shows what the new "wooden" scales for the workman/111mm series looks like
(http://www.epicureancs.com/content/uploads/2016/03/epicurean-history-collage-1060x800.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 11, 2017, 12:36:16 PM
Hold it...here we go! ( NOTHING LIKE THE FROST WOOD)  :ahhh :multi:

EPICUREAN

Auto-correct - dropping hand-grenades into perfectly good sentences since the 1990s...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: cali-SAK-attack on February 11, 2017, 12:51:12 PM
 :whistle:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on February 11, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on February 11, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
Some more pictures:

https://www.facebook.com/messershop/photos/pb.532442556894585.-2207520000.1486823371./821487337990104/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 11, 2017, 04:21:30 PM
I bet they stole this from ColoSwiss...

(https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508924_821133158025522_8188347144918992494_n.jpg?oh=5c0ee51a6b17eb98b50634b18c673ba1&oe=590187CF)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Fortytwo on February 12, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
The corkscrew Ranger is just weird.  :think:

Seems perfectly nice to me if you look at is as a part of their line of kitchen knives rather than as a SAK. Sure, it's a one trick pony but it is meant to be just that. It's would make for a nice looking alternative to the waiter style openers that are basically the best in the game (at least if you want a portable solution, the Swiss make some excellent wall or shelf mounted ones as well...). I've been considering the idea of a Victorinox with lever for pulling the cork and it seems they have too.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Brock O Lee on February 13, 2017, 02:42:59 PM
Not an Outrider, more like a Nomad or Centurion, unless 3 layers, and definitely has backtools you can see in LeaF's 1st pic. I disagree with whoever wrote that, the pics say different.

The scales look a lot like the ebony LE Climber. That would be my guess.

Do I see a linerlock? With the scissors and small Philips opening stub as on the Outrider peeking out the other side... That's a new combo....  :drool:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: metasyntax on February 13, 2017, 04:00:23 PM
Not an Outrider, more like a Nomad or Centurion, unless 3 layers, and definitely has backtools you can see in LeaF's 1st pic. I disagree with whoever wrote that, the pics say different.

The scales look a lot like the ebony LE Climber. That would be my guess.

Do I see a linerlock? With the scissors and small Philips opening stub as on the Outrider peeking out the other side... That's a new combo....  :drool:

I hope this is the start of a diversification of tools on the liner lock knives! :D Liner lock Hercules please! :drool:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on February 13, 2017, 07:28:27 PM
Anyone has any picture of the 3 bladeless SAK, not only the USB one???  :oops:
 
Thanks!!!  :tu:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Smudge on February 13, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
When are these models, specifically the green Alox ones, likely to be released for sale in the US?  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 14, 2017, 12:57:01 AM
I hope this is the start of a diversification of tools on the liner lock knives! :D Liner lock Hercules please! :drool:

I know I'm pathetic... but I'm scanning here and the Facebook every few hours in the hope of any more news in this 111mm liner lock space...

What I can guage so far:

- 'Workmen' range in liner lock with uncertainty about which models may be included; though perhaps the big ones like the Hercules and Workchamp.

- There is a reference to the slide lock being discontinued, which hopefully means quite some additions to the liner lock range.

- If the pictured Damast really is an Outrider, finally we will have scissors in liner lock.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ColoSwiss on February 14, 2017, 01:38:06 AM
I bet they stole this from ColoSwiss...

(https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16508924_821133158025522_8188347144918992494_n.jpg?oh=5c0ee51a6b17eb98b50634b18c673ba1&oe=590187CF)

My collection!!!   :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: BerkshireHunter on February 14, 2017, 02:30:53 AM
The green ltd. alox looks great, and hunter pro alox??! Sounds interesting...  :climber:

Vic should just offer an "elite mode" of a  93mm Soldier with an S35VN blade steel, and TI scales. See how it sells, and expand the line if popular.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Forklift on February 15, 2017, 03:14:38 AM
Hang in there Grass.  I was doing the same thing for a while.
If they are discontinuing the slide lock, I'm wondering if they will give the liner lock versions new names or keep the old- there is precedent for both.  Most of the liner lock models have different names than their slide lock counterparts but that may just be because they kept producing the slide lock versions.  The Fireman retained it's name when it transitioned to liner lock.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 16, 2017, 12:39:15 PM
Hmm; the 'Workman Range' may be a specific model...

https://www.outdoor-tuscher.de/schweizer-taschenmesser-preisg%C3%BCnstig-ingolstadt/
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: metasyntax on February 16, 2017, 01:42:23 PM
Hmm; the 'Workman Range' may be a specific model...

https://www.outdoor-tuscher.de/schweizer-taschenmesser-preisg%C3%BCnstig-ingolstadt/

So... Just a Forester with wood scales? ???
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ReamerPunch on February 17, 2017, 07:01:31 AM
Victorinox, I will give you what people is expecting from you:

- Get back Vic 84 mm scissors
- More 74, 84, 91 and 93 mm alox models
- Rambler alox
- More tools for 74 mm line!!!
- Bladeless Saks
- MULTITOOLS: Alternatives to LM Juice and Squirt

And over all:
- A custom SAK service
People will pay high prices for a Victorinox factory custom built SAK
Personalization of tools, scales, liners, layers...
Do this and you will be winners!!!

P.S.:
Innovation is not new alox colors and limited editions.
That is SAD and RIDICULOUS!!!

Also:

Pens for 74mm and 111mm models. Why are Garant scales not the norm?
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.
Scales with pocket clips. Not for all models, just those thin enough to have one.
Spirit's chisel on SAKs. Or a Wingman style package opener. Best tool on it.
In-line awl for 111mm models. Having the 91mm awl on the back of the 111mm is ludicrous. Take the 93mm awl and supersize it.
OHO Jumpmaster (or Rescue Tool) with file
OHO Spirit for countries that allow it. And add a pocket clip on it. It's the slimmest MT out there.
SwissChamp with safety blade instead of fish scaler.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Reinier on February 17, 2017, 07:05:11 AM
Those are all excellent ideas!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on February 17, 2017, 09:06:23 AM
I propose a list of suggestions for Victorinox.
It could be sent to Mr Karl Elsener:

1.- A previous suggestions recopilation
2.- A later votation
3.- And sent the selected ones.

Are you agree?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on February 17, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Storky on February 17, 2017, 11:09:10 AM
...
SwissChamp with safety blade instead of fish scaler.

Ok, this is not funny  :rant:
A SwissChamp without the Fishscaler  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
 :pok:  ;) :angel:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ReamerPunch on February 17, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:

I buy SAKs for a lot of reasons. Tradition is indeed one of them. The shiny red cellidor is undeniably pleasing, but a SAK is also a tool, and being a tool, it has to evolve. They dropped the can-key slot because there was no use for it anymore, they dropped the older versions of the can opener, they dropped the removable pen for 58mm models in favor of the push-down version, etc.

Replacing cellidor with a more modern material that is more durable is not an unreasonable concept.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mechanickal on February 17, 2017, 01:27:50 PM
...
SwissChamp with safety blade instead of fish scaler.

Ok, this is not funny  :rant:
A SwissChamp without the Fishscaler  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
 :pok:  ;) :angel:
I do think this would make me love my Swisschamp even more...

Maybe if I can sharpen the edges of it...
:think:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on February 17, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:

I buy SAKs for a lot of reasons. Tradition is indeed one of them. The shiny red cellidor is undeniably pleasing, but a SAK is also a tool, and being a tool, it has to evolve. They dropped the can-key slot because there was no use for it anymore, they dropped the older versions of the can opener, they dropped the removable pen for 58mm models in favor of the push-down version, etc.

Replacing cellidor with a more modern material that is more durable is not an unreasonable concept.

I understand your point, and agree to some extent, but they offer so many scale options already that actually replacing it permanently would be a bit unnecessary. Cellidor is a cheap and easy to work with and durable material if treated with care, and easy to replace. I just don't see they changing it with a more expensive material, they had nylon which was tougher and don't have it anymore.
If they could make scales in a tougher material that looked like traditional cellidor at the same price, now that would be great.

I think there is a lot more important evolutions and updates they can make other than scale materials, mainly in tools (updates and develop new ones)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 17, 2017, 02:44:08 PM
They should copy Apple and build their SAKs with nothing but aluminium and glass.
That way they'd NEVER break and would last literally FOREVER!!!!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: G-Dizzle on February 17, 2017, 02:47:01 PM
They should copy Apple and build their SAKs with nothing but aluminium and glass.
That way they'd NEVER break and would last literally FOREVER!!!!
:rofl:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mactire404 on February 17, 2017, 03:29:16 PM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:

That's what I was thinking. I do like other handle materials, but I prefer cellidor on my SAKs.
What's wrong with cellidor? Sure, it has disadvantages but in a way that's what gives it character over time.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shenkie on February 17, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
High res photo of the Forester.

(http://i.imgur.com/eBLMgLv.jpg)

Looks nice :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 17, 2017, 06:05:30 PM
Almost as nice as the Forester that's been on sale in Italy for the past hundred years or so...

(https://www.agrariagioiese.it/contents/media/l_victorinox_forester_guanciali_noce_083_se01.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Brock O Lee on February 17, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
High res photo of the Forester.

(http://i.imgur.com/eBLMgLv.jpg)

Looks nice :D

Very pretty... Tempted... But more tempted by the rumoured linerlock "Outrider".
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on February 17, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
They should copy Apple and build their SAKs with nothing but aluminium and glass.
That way they'd NEVER break and would last literally FOREVER!!!!

Ahah, except when the battery blows and sets fire to your room  :rofl: But that they copied out of Samsung  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 18, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
Almost as nice as the Forester that's been on sale in Italy...

Except this one has t&t!

Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on February 18, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

Reliable!  :rofl:

How good is your Italian?
I ordered once or twice from here:
https://www.agrariagioiese.it/contents/it/d1363.html
But it was a nerve wracking experience. They list all sorts of cool things which they don't actually have. After I placed an order for 180 euros  nothing happened for a week; then I got an email in Italian telling me most of the things I wanted were out of stock. So I hired the best translators money can buy (Google translate...) and asked if they would at least send me the things that were available.
Another week passed. Then I got the shortest email I've ever seen. One word:

Si

Many moons later a parcel arrived, really badly wrapped - but the items were inside, miraculously in good condition.
Empires rose and fell and eventually I got a credit card refund for the things I'd paid for but which could't be sent.
Not a great shopping experience and not one I'd recommend but if they have something you urgently need, you could cobble together an email and ask if they have it before ordering. They are honest, but not dazzlingly competent.

Grazie a Dio per google translate!
Caio!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on February 19, 2017, 12:05:38 AM
Mamma Mia!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on February 19, 2017, 01:08:06 AM
Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

Reliable!  :rofl:


Si!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: koke on February 19, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

Reliable!  :rofl:

How good is your Italian?
I ordered once or twice from here:
https://www.agrariagioiese.it/contents/it/d1363.html
But it was a nerve wracking experience. They list all sorts of cool things which they don't actually have. After I placed an order for 180 euros  nothing happened for a week; then I got an email in Italian telling me most of the things I wanted were out of stock. So I hired the best translators money can buy (Google translate...) and asked if they would at least send me the things that were available.
Another week passed. Then I got the shortest email I've ever seen. One word:

Si

Many moons later a parcel arrived, really badly wrapped - but the items were inside, miraculously in good condition.
Empires rose and fell and eventually I got a credit card refund for the things I'd paid for but which could't be sent.
Not a great shopping experience and not one I'd recommend but if they have something you urgently need, you could cobble together an email and ask if they have it before ordering. They are honest, but not dazzlingly competent.

Grazie a Dio per google translate!
Caio!


Exactly the same experience !!!!


Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shadowrider on February 20, 2017, 04:04:56 AM
Guys, if you need help with them or other Italian vendors, let me know.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 02, 2017, 06:07:39 AM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_R-bGgyltB0VjdmdEgtdjljc0E/view

111mm slide lock system models are not present anymore...

Chees Knife, Hunter, Equestrian, Outrider, Hercules and the 2 workchamp models are now liner locks...


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: zoidberg on March 02, 2017, 07:05:25 AM
Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

Reliable!  :rofl:

How good is your Italian?
I ordered once or twice from here:
https://www.agrariagioiese.it/contents/it/d1363.html
But it was a nerve wracking experience. They list all sorts of cool things which they don't actually have. After I placed an order for 180 euros  nothing happened for a week; then I got an email in Italian telling me most of the things I wanted were out of stock. So I hired the best translators money can buy (Google translate...) and asked if they would at least send me the things that were available.
Another week passed. Then I got the shortest email I've ever seen. One word:

Si

Many moons later a parcel arrived, really badly wrapped - but the items were inside, miraculously in good condition.
Empires rose and fell and eventually I got a credit card refund for the things I'd paid for but which could't be sent.
Not a great shopping experience and not one I'd recommend but if they have something you urgently need, you could cobble together an email and ask if they have it before ordering. They are honest, but not dazzlingly competent.

Grazie a Dio per google translate!
Caio!


Exactly the same experience !!!!




Welcome to the boards koke.   :cheers:   :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Donald on March 02, 2017, 07:07:58 AM
Almost as nice as the Forester that's been on sale in Italy...

Except this one has t&t!

Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

You might check La Bottega del Coltello s.n.c. di Ambrosioni Eligio & C. They have a choice/button to read the page in English. I ordered from them (end of 2012) and they were reliable. https://www.bottegadelcoltello.it/en/outdoor-knives/multitools/victorinox.asp
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 07:47:09 AM



111mm slide lock system models are not present anymore...

Chees Knife, Hunter, Equestrian, Outrider, Hercules and the 2 workchamp models are now liner locks...

Besides this, there are some changes in tools layers in existing models - their order was changed. In WorkChamp XL slip point blade was replaced by belt cutter (from Rescue tool), combotool and hoof cleaner changed their positions.

Some models, which were available before with black scales, now are present with red ones.

The worst change IMHO,  - this is a mess with models' names.  It's really sad
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: hiraethus on March 02, 2017, 07:57:38 AM
Black and red Pioneer, Mechanic and Craftsman aren't in the catalogue any more. :cry:

OHO Locksmith is ace though. :like:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on March 02, 2017, 08:53:54 AM
Disappointing the new 3  58 mm models
 :facepalm:

Give us an alox 58mm rambler

Or an alox 74 mm rambler

What are you thinking of, Victorinox?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 08:55:43 AM


Black and red Pioneer...

I cannot remember that these models were present in Victorinox catalogs before (in this century :)

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 02, 2017, 09:08:35 AM
Jetsetter series are reintroduced again... I can't understand what's new with the Minichamp Alox... It's been there for ages and toolset and layout remains the same


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Reinier on March 02, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017


I think that someone was LeaF ;)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 09:27:11 AM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017


I think that someone was LeaF ;)
:whistle:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 02, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Ahhh sooo...

I'll restate my reply then... LeaF just shared the Victorinox Swiss Army Knife 2017 catalogue over at Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors Group... :lol:

Thanks LeaF... Hope you don't mind me sharing the same to our Indonesian Swiss Pocket Tools Group :cheers:


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
Ahhh sooo...

I'll restate my reply then... LeaF just shared the Victorinox Swiss Army Knife 2017 catalogue over at Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors Group... :lol:

Thanks LeaF... Hope you don't mind me sharing the same to our Indonesian Swiss Pocket Tools Group :cheers:


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Not a problem. More links - more knowledge!  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Padre on March 02, 2017, 10:14:50 AM
Was Watchopener last years catalogue?
I like both Jetsetters, might even go for the cellidor one, good to have those back.

Swisschamp Wood looks sweet, but I hate the new 93mm naming.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on March 02, 2017, 10:33:52 AM
Thanks for posting  :cheers:

Does anybody know when the Helmsman disappeared?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
I can't understand what's new with the Minichamp Alox... It's been there for ages and toolset and layout remains the same


It's a bad normal Victorinox practice  - re-introduce old models with label 'New'. Marketing....
UPDATE: Disclaimer from Victorinox: Products launched in 2015 and 2016 as well as standard items not previously included in the catalog are labeled with the "New" Icon.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: hiraethus on March 02, 2017, 10:50:17 AM


Black and red Pioneer...

I cannot remember that these models were present in Victorinox catalogs before (in this century :)

It's listed in the 2016 US catalog as 0.8201.23R.  No picture though.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on March 02, 2017, 11:11:58 AM
I'd only seen that jetsetter model on a far eastern web store, and without the "jetsetter" name.  I'd assumed it was a special Asian-market model.  I never realised it had been a general issue model.  I like it.  It'd be a good companion to something like a Pioneer, or a single-blade knife.  Slightly less useful in that role now the Pioneer X is available, but it does give you the toothpick and tweezers.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: alexTOOL on March 02, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
I'd only seen that jetsetter model on a far eastern web store, and without the "jetsetter" name.  I'd assumed it was a special Asian-market model.  I never realised it had been a general issue model.  I like it.  It'd be a good companion to something like a Pioneer, or a single-blade knife.  Slightly less useful in that role now the Pioneer X is available, but it does give you the toothpick and tweezers.

The jetsetter was widely avalaible on Ebay yet
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_R-bGgyltB0VjdmdEgtdjljc0E/view

111mm slide lock system models are not present anymore...

Chees Knife, Hunter, Equestrian, Outrider, Hercules and the 2 workchamp models are now liner locks...


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Thanks for sharing mate  :cheers:
I've been waiting for this one. Hopefully next time i go to my Vic rep i can already grab the printed copy too  :ahhh :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
It's listed in the 2016 US catalog as 0.8201.23R.  No picture though.


Could you please share this version of catalog?
Thanks!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 01:03:31 PM
It's listed in the 2016 US catalog as 0.8201.23R.  No picture though.


Could you please share this version of catalog?
Thanks!

He probably means this one (i think... :think:):

https://assets.victorinox.com/medias/sak-product-catalog-en-us-2016.pdf?context=bWFzdGVyfHNha3w3NDczMjg2fGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uL3BkZnxoZWQvaDExLzg4MjU0NDY0OTgzMzQucGRmfGNiZGU2OGUzZGFjYjg3NTk4Zjc4OGM0YzkwMGRiMWRlMmVhYjIxMzdjNjNlYjQ2MDU1YjQxMTliZmFkYWFlOTc
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Thunderpants on March 02, 2017, 01:44:33 PM
Ooh look has the Hunter XS disappeared?
If so mine will soon be worth MILLIONS of yen
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 02, 2017, 01:45:02 PM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_R-bGgyltB0VjdmdEgtdjljc0E/view

111mm slide lock system models are not present anymore...

Chees Knife, Hunter, Equestrian, Outrider, Hercules and the 2 workchamp models are now liner locks...


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Thanks for sharing mate  :cheers:
I've been waiting for this one. Hopefully next time i go to my Vic rep i can already grab the printed copy too  :ahhh :ahhh
:cheers:

LeaF deserves the honor... it was him who shared it...


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Someone over at the Facebook Swiss Army Knife Collectors group just shared the catalogue for 2017

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_R-bGgyltB0VjdmdEgtdjljc0E/view

111mm slide lock system models are not present anymore...

Chees Knife, Hunter, Equestrian, Outrider, Hercules and the 2 workchamp models are now liner locks...


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Thanks for sharing mate  :cheers:
I've been waiting for this one. Hopefully next time i go to my Vic rep i can already grab the printed copy too  :ahhh :ahhh
:cheers:

LeaF deserves the honor... it was him who shared it...


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Oh OK, Thanks a million LeaF  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on March 02, 2017, 02:02:41 PM
Ooh look has the Hunter XS disappeared?
If so mine will soon be worth MILLIONS of yen

The Hunter XS is on page 81. I haven't found a Helmsman in catalogues 2015 and later.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: koke on March 02, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
Is there a reliable online store still selling thus Italian variant? :)

Reliable!  :rofl:

How good is your Italian?
I ordered once or twice from here:
https://www.agrariagioiese.it/contents/it/d1363.html
But it was a nerve wracking experience. They list all sorts of cool things which they don't actually have. After I placed an order for 180 euros  nothing happened for a week; then I got an email in Italian telling me most of the things I wanted were out of stock. So I hired the best translators money can buy (Google translate...) and asked if they would at least send me the things that were available.
Another week passed. Then I got the shortest email I've ever seen. One word:

Si

Many moons later a parcel arrived, really badly wrapped - but the items were inside, miraculously in good condition.
Empires rose and fell and eventually I got a credit card refund for the things I'd paid for but which could't be sent.
Not a great shopping experience and not one I'd recommend but if they have something you urgently need, you could cobble together an email and ask if they have it before ordering. They are honest, but not dazzlingly competent.

Grazie a Dio per google translate!
Caio!


Exactly the same experience !!!!




Welcome to the boards koke.   :cheers:   :cheers:

Thank you !!!

Leaf !!! Thank you for sharing
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Syph007 on March 02, 2017, 03:14:32 PM
According to that pdf it says the outrider has a liner lock now?  If so that will be a very popular model to have a liner lock 111mm with scissors.   Or are they considering their slide lock a 'liner' lock.  And will it have the locking cap lifter too?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 03:29:46 PM
According to that pdf it says the outrider has a liner lock now?  If so that will be a very popular model to have a liner lock 111mm with scissors.   Or are they considering their slide lock a 'liner' lock.  And will it have the locking cap lifter too?
Yes, looks all 111mm models will have a new type of cap lifter since this release.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 03:32:24 PM
After browsing carefully through the catalog i've confirm my initial thoughts, sadly nothing new on the cellidor 84/91mm Sak's, my main area of interest.  :cry:
No new tools and no new models (apart from the watchopener)... :(
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on March 02, 2017, 04:01:29 PM


sadly nothing new on the cellidor 84/91mm Sak's, my main area of interest.  :cry:
No new tools and no new models (apart from the watchopener)... :(
New tool in SwissChamp XAVT. Isn't enough? ;)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 04:14:46 PM


sadly nothing new on the cellidor 84/91mm Sak's, my main area of interest.  :cry:
No new tools and no new models (apart from the watchopener)... :(
New tool in SwissChamp XAVT. Isn't enough? ;)

LOL you mean the wrench? Naahh... Even the Handyman is too thick for me, never mind the SwissChamp XAVT, that's one i would never buy  :ahhh

Now if they had put the wrench along with the inline philips in a 3 (max. 4) layer 91mm that would be another matter  :drool:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 02, 2017, 04:21:31 PM


sadly nothing new on the cellidor 84/91mm Sak's, my main area of interest.  :cry:
No new tools and no new models (apart from the watchopener)... :(
New tool in SwissChamp XAVT. Isn't enough? ;)

LOL you mean the wrench? Naahh... Even the Handyman is too thick for me, never mind the SwissChamp XAVT, that's one i would never buy  :ahhh

Now if they had put the wrench along with the inline philips in a 3 (max. 4) layer 91mm that would be another matter  :drool:
That's why there are modders :lol:


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 02, 2017, 04:27:23 PM


sadly nothing new on the cellidor 84/91mm Sak's, my main area of interest.  :cry:
No new tools and no new models (apart from the watchopener)... :(
New tool in SwissChamp XAVT. Isn't enough? ;)

LOL you mean the wrench? Naahh... Even the Handyman is too thick for me, never mind the SwissChamp XAVT, that's one i would never buy  :ahhh

Now if they had put the wrench along with the inline philips in a 3 (max. 4) layer 91mm that would be another matter  :drool:
That's why there are modders :lol:


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Nahhh too...  :rofl: Would't pay premium prices for any Sak, even if modded (even if i respect and admire the great work of most modders ;) ). Max i would ever go for any new one these days would be about 50€
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Forklift on March 02, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
I find it odd that they changed the Nomad and Centurion to the slide lock names Picknicker and Adventurer.  Good luck ordering one of those online and getting the correct version.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Grass on March 03, 2017, 08:02:58 AM
Most exciting catalogue since I first got hooked on SAK's years ago... as a great fan of the 111mm range and liner lock system.

All models with a bottle opener (cap lifter) seem to now have liner locks and the locking bottle opener/cap lifter; with new catalog numbers. The Locksmith seems to have gone one handed, too.

I am particularly eyeing off the new Outrider to have the scissors with the liner line and locking bottle opener - which I can then add the little screwdriver to in the corkscrew. Thinking I may even eventually pick up the Workchamp XL some time as well (my slide lock Hercules being my largest 111mm at the moment). A gutting blade seems to replace the pointed blade in the XL?

I have also ordered a slide lock Adventurer for the collection... for 'old times sake'.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 03, 2017, 10:05:32 AM
I hear ya...

Only have 1 side lock at the moment... ma workchamp... snapped up a side locking Outrider in black scales before it's gone for good...


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on March 03, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
The change from slide lock to liner lock also involves a change of tool layout. The main blade has moved to a middle layer where it was on the right previously. I've also noticed that the Hunter's awl no longer has the sewing eye.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on March 03, 2017, 10:17:10 AM
I assume just by looking at the pics, the ex-slide locks also inherit the same openers as on the trekker and 93mm alox


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2017, 12:21:08 PM
Just realized something looking at the catalog again, where are the Evolution models S111, S16, Evo16....??
I mean, really...? They discontinued it?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on March 03, 2017, 01:43:48 PM
Thanks for posting that Jaya and LeaF!  :cheers:

That linerlock Outrider is cool! Did they completely eliminate the slide lock?  :think:

Also that belt carrier on page 52 for the SwissTool looks interesting, p/n 4.0829 on page 67. I'll be looking for more info on that.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: lister on March 03, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on March 03, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Can people stop mentioning Farmer X please?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: firiki on March 03, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Can people stop mentioning Farmer X please?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

How about Farmer XXX?  :angel:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Syph007 on March 03, 2017, 02:57:44 PM
And this also confirms my conspiracy theory of why they put the nil nick on the wrong side for the pioneer x.  Same 3.0 mm pivot size as the 111mm so they can use the same scissors for both.  The normal nail nick scissors would have their nick blocked on the 111mm liner lock.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: firiki on March 03, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
Thanks jaya and LeaF :salute: :cheers: Good to see Vic making new things.

Some interesting changes in the 111mm line :tu: It seems they're built purely on the Soldier chassis, using the same implements too. Makes sense. I like how the knife blade isn't on the far end of the handle on the liner lock models. I really like the 3-layer linerlock models -like the Forester- because, finally, the blade is centered on a SAK other than a Solo.

Too bad about the slide-lock type blade, though. I quite like that blade even though I couldn't bring myself to trust/like that locking mechanism.

Apart from the Farmer X(XX) mentioned above (:gimme:) I wish we see the return of the 108mm line, with scissors, in-line awl, clip point blade, rescue blade. :dd:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: firiki on March 03, 2017, 03:14:46 PM
And this also confirms my conspiracy theory of why they put the nil nick on the wrong side for the pioneer x.  Same 3.0 mm pivot size as the 111mm so they can use the same scissors for both.  The normal nail nick scissors would have their nick blocked on the 111mm liner lock.

The oracle has spoken  :ahhh  :climber:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: lister on March 03, 2017, 03:33:41 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Can people stop mentioning Farmer X please?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

Farmer X farmer X farmer X farmer X!  :drink:

 :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Don Pablo on March 03, 2017, 03:38:06 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Can people stop mentioning Farmer X please?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

Farmer X farmer X farmer X farmer X!  :drink:

 :D
Oh Farmer X, how we love you thee.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: magentus on March 03, 2017, 03:41:11 PM
And now the long wait for the 2018 to see if vic gets their smurfs together and finally releases farmer X...  :twak:

 :D
Can people stop mentioning Farmer X please?
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/magentus2112/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg) (http://s923.photobucket.com/user/magentus2112/media/0965d1ce-2547-4184-85db-545ca36f547a_zps3wahzcmz.jpg.html)

How about Farmer XXX?  :angel:
That's just Farmer X without his clothes on. I don't think we need to see that.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Forklift on March 03, 2017, 04:00:29 PM
unless I missed it, it looks like they removed the Explorer Plus from the catalog
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 03, 2017, 04:52:47 PM
unless I missed it, it looks like they removed the Explorer Plus from the catalog

You're right, just checked and it was removed, they just added the black scales option to the standard model. However i never understood the reason why at least the thicker models don't all have plus scales with pen, the pin and corckscrew screw driver. The added cost, both from factory and for retail would probably be next to nothing.
Just as i can't understand why all 84/91mm models don't have the straight pin from factory, that costs virtually nothing. I mean if i go to my rep and ask for like 5 pins or so they will give them to me (no charge). They never even charge me for scissor's springs when i ask for like 5 of each size or so when ever i go there.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Storky on March 07, 2017, 08:07:49 AM
Some news on SWIZA knives.
There would be some new modells. First a all-black version.
Then it seems as SWIZA introduce a additional woodsaw
(modell D05/D06) and a Junior series.

http://www.swiza.com/Scripts/Modules/CustomView/List.aspx?idn=9828&name=SwissKnivesSearch&C76=7&C88=525&C26=59-75

https://www.garow.me/media/1460875044951344720_2133740540

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Storky on March 16, 2017, 02:20:41 PM
Some news on SWIZA knives.
There would be some new modells. First a all-black version.
Then it seems as SWIZA introduce a additional woodsaw
(modell D05/D06) and a Junior series.

http://www.swiza.com/Scripts/Modules/CustomView/List.aspx?idn=9828&name=SwissKnivesSearch&C76=7&C88=525&C26=59-75

https://www.garow.me/media/1460875044951344720_2133740540

FYI

https://www.swiza.com/en/Brand/News/Press-Center/SWIZA-D05-AND-D06-THE-SWIZA-SWISS-KNIFE-NOW-WITH-INTEGRATED-SAW.html#
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: G-Dizzle on March 16, 2017, 02:26:58 PM
unless I missed it, it looks like they removed the Explorer Plus from the catalog

You're right, just checked and it was removed, they just added the black scales option to the standard model. However i never understood the reason why at least the thicker models don't all have plus scales with pen, the pin and corckscrew screw driver. The added cost, both from factory and for retail would probably be next to nothing.
Just as i can't understand why all 84/91mm models don't have the straight pin from factory, that costs virtually nothing. I mean if i go to my rep and ask for like 5 pins or so they will give them to me (no charge). They never even charge me for scissor's springs when i ask for like 5 of each size or so when ever i go there.
I agree. I think that it would be great for every single 91mm model to have both a pin and a pen, and for them to integrate that into the larger models as well. I know that costs build up but id be willing to bay the (tiny I'm sure) premium for it. I guess if they did the pen on all the models though they couldn't up the price on the ones that do have it.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on March 16, 2017, 02:40:11 PM
I know that costs build up but id be willing to bay the (tiny I'm sure) premium for it. I guess if they did the pen on all the models though they couldn't up the price on the ones that do have it.

I'll have to agree on that too, but at leas for the pin i can't think on any reason to why they don't include it on every 84/91mm sak. I mean, the slot is on every current scales, a lot of say, 50 pins, would probably cost them like 10 cents or so. Just raise the price of every 84/91mm for like 20 cents each if they like, nobody would really care for example if they buy a new spartan for $20,00 or $20,99... :whistle:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: firiki on March 16, 2017, 03:32:06 PM
Some news on SWIZA knives.
There would be some new modells. First a all-black version.
Then it seems as SWIZA introduce a additional woodsaw
(modell D05/D06) and a Junior series.

http://www.swiza.com/Scripts/Modules/CustomView/List.aspx?idn=9828&name=SwissKnivesSearch&C76=7&C88=525&C26=59-75

https://www.garow.me/media/1460875044951344720_2133740540

FYI

https://www.swiza.com/en/Brand/News/Press-Center/SWIZA-D05-AND-D06-THE-SWIZA-SWISS-KNIFE-NOW-WITH-INTEGRATED-SAW.html#

Quote
SWIZA’s famous revolutionary 360° design

I'll disregard the "famous" part. I wonder what they mean by "360° design"  :think:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Syph007 on March 16, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
Some news on SWIZA knives.
There would be some new modells. First a all-black version.
Then it seems as SWIZA introduce a additional woodsaw
(modell D05/D06) and a Junior series.

http://www.swiza.com/Scripts/Modules/CustomView/List.aspx?idn=9828&name=SwissKnivesSearch&C76=7&C88=525&C26=59-75

https://www.garow.me/media/1460875044951344720_2133740540

FYI

https://www.swiza.com/en/Brand/News/Press-Center/SWIZA-D05-AND-D06-THE-SWIZA-SWISS-KNIFE-NOW-WITH-INTEGRATED-SAW.html#

Quote
SWIZA’s famous revolutionary 360° design

I'll disregard the "famous" part. I wonder what they mean by "360° design"  :think:

Sounds like marketing garbage.  Still look inferior to Victorinox at a higher price.   Pass!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jcfiguet on April 23, 2017, 09:28:35 PM
VICTORINOX CLASSIC, CADET, PIONEER ALOX LIMITED EDITION 2017
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gaYAAOSwzqFY~Ep3/s-l1600.jpg)


VICTORINOX SPARTAN SWISS AIR FORCE COLLECTION LIMITED EDITION 2016 / 2017
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FtIAAOSwTM5Y5iCb/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on April 24, 2017, 10:23:23 AM
Cool pics! :tu:


Did anyone see any pictures of the announced Hunter Pro Alox yet?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: T14 on April 24, 2017, 09:25:02 PM
Red scaled 1H locksmith :cheers:

And I really need a jetsetter with signature lite scales on my todo modding list. :ahhh
-Tom
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Drreptar on April 26, 2017, 08:48:24 AM
(https://assets.victorinox.com/mam/celum/celum_assets/d1c/94c/8852159037470_celum_116943_1280Wx1120H.jpg)
The Nespresso Alox Pioneer is kinda interesting.
Each knife had scales made out of recycled aluminium from Nespresso cups.

It has a engraving/laser etch on the blade
(http://www.knife.ru/sites/default/files/uploads/news/victorinox-pioneer.jpg)

(https://pics.ricardostatic.ch/ImgUsers/2/8/844/84413/8441379/844137918_3_Big.jpg)
And a Nespresso logo on the back.

I had a hard time finfing it online, but the price is around €38,- ex shipping.

Hi- can you let me know where you have found these online?  Really want to pick one up
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: victor7000 on April 26, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
Forester Wood

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iQ5pYx3GylWHv8LospM6cOSyUhU86jcIXT48K_hlk__77c-IDbBb3U45CpqAjstJDI4OIKERaldM360eDB2JV0WF8Voao0nuCqTyP4u88AcDtMQH8NzMPKEsiFn13ZsUgYmDPB_8BG9tpZEfHyzuqYp1F-d96ubQFUFqK-r6AsJp0hnXPO11AuwRObY94Fwe-M-KIGGvqAA-VD4Rb8Rj73MSvyXFtz7Og6v9zbxk2q1vqNrqIDsfabylKiiuUme4C80AXsOsRpqgbzX6gnNjULaGX00A3tInhxKNk_UAfSbz6b1CnrP_fqxYgkSk131zBIvcT-2u3VZ_aW6ITG_JvvfRGvpOfB9Vcky2zRSHugOvDO2ThldMV3nP-d3qTBVfdMtqqckoYMOuboWSgfrCoYsk7to1ATVagNfvuxslcFuQpXOnFdKifUCPYGsPGnfk-evNondzwS7dd5QBB_N8pnW1gFXP-zVX-_bj6g6ihX8P9RpcbQVGCmfRIypuhXZJMDiA7QkS6BSwKNk7ZK3NdKXaiG3ovjfmiCbrExxvl6144kukLkhhlNyJpaiHcezcRVdcjmPv5MhvT3L19qi7FX9QeXbVxMDbjeuLnByKeobUQcjr6qT6=w1395-h930-no)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jaya_man on April 27, 2017, 03:22:55 AM
Forester Wood

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iQ5pYx3GylWHv8LospM6cOSyUhU86jcIXT48K_hlk__77c-IDbBb3U45CpqAjstJDI4OIKERaldM360eDB2JV0WF8Voao0nuCqTyP4u88AcDtMQH8NzMPKEsiFn13ZsUgYmDPB_8BG9tpZEfHyzuqYp1F-d96ubQFUFqK-r6AsJp0hnXPO11AuwRObY94Fwe-M-KIGGvqAA-VD4Rb8Rj73MSvyXFtz7Og6v9zbxk2q1vqNrqIDsfabylKiiuUme4C80AXsOsRpqgbzX6gnNjULaGX00A3tInhxKNk_UAfSbz6b1CnrP_fqxYgkSk131zBIvcT-2u3VZ_aW6ITG_JvvfRGvpOfB9Vcky2zRSHugOvDO2ThldMV3nP-d3qTBVfdMtqqckoYMOuboWSgfrCoYsk7to1ATVagNfvuxslcFuQpXOnFdKifUCPYGsPGnfk-evNondzwS7dd5QBB_N8pnW1gFXP-zVX-_bj6g6ihX8P9RpcbQVGCmfRIypuhXZJMDiA7QkS6BSwKNk7ZK3NdKXaiG3ovjfmiCbrExxvl6144kukLkhhlNyJpaiHcezcRVdcjmPv5MhvT3L19qi7FX9QeXbVxMDbjeuLnByKeobUQcjr6qT6=w1395-h930-no)
:drool: :like:


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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ThePeacent on May 01, 2017, 06:52:15 PM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:

I buy SAKs for a lot of reasons. Tradition is indeed one of them. The shiny red cellidor is undeniably pleasing, but a SAK is also a tool, and being a tool, it has to evolve. They dropped the can-key slot because there was no use for it anymore, they dropped the older versions of the can opener, they dropped the removable pen for 58mm models in favor of the push-down version, etc.

Replacing cellidor with a more modern material that is more durable is not an unreasonable concept.

I understand your point, and agree to some extent, but they offer so many scale options already that actually replacing it permanently would be a bit unnecessary. Cellidor is a cheap and easy to work with and durable material if treated with care, and easy to replace. I just don't see they changing it with a more expensive material, they had nylon which was tougher and don't have it anymore.
If they could make scales in a tougher material that looked like traditional cellidor at the same price, now that would be great.

I think there is a lot more important evolutions and updates they can make other than scale materials, mainly in tools (updates and develop new ones)

I think they should find an alternative, keeping the looks but upgrading the toughness of the scales. This one below happened today  :-[:

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133805_zpsq7pih2mn.jpg)

it fell from 4ft into the pavement,

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133812_zpsstededcs.jpg)

and it's the fourth SAK that suffers this in my lifetime. That's enough times for me to consider an alternative if it were available!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133852_zpstgeon1ng.jpg)

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: twiliter on May 02, 2017, 01:07:11 AM
Nylon scales may have survived that.  :think:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on May 03, 2017, 11:35:42 AM
G10 scales, get rid of cellidor.

Are you mad??  :twak:
Get rid of cellidor?? I understand people like a lot of different scales and scale material, but for me and some others red cellidor scales are the very definition of a Victorinox Sak.  ;)
 :climber:

I buy SAKs for a lot of reasons. Tradition is indeed one of them. The shiny red cellidor is undeniably pleasing, but a SAK is also a tool, and being a tool, it has to evolve. They dropped the can-key slot because there was no use for it anymore, they dropped the older versions of the can opener, they dropped the removable pen for 58mm models in favor of the push-down version, etc.

Replacing cellidor with a more modern material that is more durable is not an unreasonable concept.

I understand your point, and agree to some extent, but they offer so many scale options already that actually replacing it permanently would be a bit unnecessary. Cellidor is a cheap and easy to work with and durable material if treated with care, and easy to replace. I just don't see they changing it with a more expensive material, they had nylon which was tougher and don't have it anymore.
If they could make scales in a tougher material that looked like traditional cellidor at the same price, now that would be great.

I think there is a lot more important evolutions and updates they can make other than scale materials, mainly in tools (updates and develop new ones)

I think they should find an alternative, keeping the looks but upgrading the toughness of the scales. This one below happened today  :-[:

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133805_zpsq7pih2mn.jpg)

it fell from 4ft into the pavement,

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133812_zpsstededcs.jpg)

and it's the fourth SAK that suffers this in my lifetime. That's enough times for me to consider an alternative if it were available!

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t562/ThePeacent/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170501_133852_zpstgeon1ng.jpg)

Holly crap!!  :sa:  :o :ahhh

I feel for you mate....  :cry:

Even more being Plus solid scales... bloody hard to replace...
I feel sometimes maybe the hollow ones can take more if a hit tho, because being hollow they are probably more elastic and less prone to cracking easily, but it really depends on how they fall, a heavy hit in a corner almost always crack's.

But yes, they should really improve the toughness of the material but keep the original looks
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on May 09, 2017, 10:20:11 AM
VICTORINOX CLASSIC, CADET, PIONEER ALOX LIMITED EDITION 2017
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gaYAAOSwzqFY~Ep3/s-l1600.jpg)


VICTORINOX SPARTAN SWISS AIR FORCE COLLECTION LIMITED EDITION 2016 / 2017
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FtIAAOSwTM5Y5iCb/s-l1600.jpg)
Saw the green ones this weekend... nice but I'm not tempted

The air force knives are nice too... looks like 3 of them are Patrouille Suisse (more air show than military) and I see that the last one reads something like no limits... they should add: as long as it is during business hours, else we send the French Air Force :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: firiki on May 09, 2017, 10:27:48 AM
So, are Swisstools/Spirits with two knife blades discontinued? I think I didn't see those variants listed.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on July 30, 2017, 12:44:44 PM
Although the original product calendar images have been taken away by the twunts at Photobucket, I seem to recall that the "winemaster" model was due for release in July.  Has anyone seen one yet?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on July 30, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
Although the original product calendar images have been taken away by the twunts at Photobucket, I seem to recall that the "winemaster" model was due for release in July.  Has anyone seen one yet?
If you're talking about Marketing Calendar from Victorinox, it's still available here: https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox
Winemaster wasn't released yet, the same true for the CT Carbon unfortunately. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170730/9f2a161a0778cf6afe18ed7d02ea124d.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on August 01, 2017, 03:55:28 PM
If you're talking about Marketing Calendar from Victorinox, it's still available here: https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox
Winemaster wasn't released yet, the same true for the CT Carbon unfortunately.

Thanks. Looks like I mis-remembered, release date is September.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Zhenchok on August 01, 2017, 09:07:25 PM
it is amazing that Victorinox sitll finds way to innovate and create new designs.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on August 01, 2017, 09:08:44 PM
it is amazing that Victorinox sitll finds way to innovate and create new designs.

Wow, you're so active lately  :rofl:
Title: New models for 2017
Post by: Zhenchok on August 01, 2017, 09:18:51 PM
it is amazing that Victorinox sitll finds way to innovate and create new designs.

Wow, you're so active lately  :rofl:

:)

The forum does have a way to draw people in.



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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: EMZ on August 01, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
The Outrider Damast LE 2017 is still available in many stores. Prices vary from € 299 - 450, with an average of € 345-375.
I have the slight impression that this model is not so popular as the previous Damast Limited Editions. Or am I wrong? What are your opinions?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: italophil on August 02, 2017, 01:24:04 AM
Are there already pics of the Hunter Pro Alox?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: GoatDragon on August 02, 2017, 01:56:03 AM
Are there already pics of the Hunter Pro Alox?

Seconded. Do we even know anything about it, like what tools it will have?
:ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: ReamerPunch on August 02, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
Winemaster wasn't released yet, the same true for the CT Carbon unfortunately.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170730/9f2a161a0778cf6afe18ed7d02ea124d.jpg)

Does El Corkscrew know about this!?  :ahhh
 :like:

Kinda funny to see a brand new sparking model based on a corkscrew.  ::)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: italophil on August 02, 2017, 02:10:16 AM
Are there already pics of the Hunter Pro Alox?

Seconded. Do we even know anything about it, like what tools it will have?
:ahhh

The Hunter Pro is just one big blade, no tools. I hope it is a really big one hand opening Alox Solo.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on August 25, 2017, 05:20:31 PM
Seems, soon we'll see WineMaster!


http://www.cadeaux-leipzig.de/neuigkeiten/victorinox-zum-wohle/666558


And one page on victorinox.com.. I don't know why it was deleted, but google's cashe remember everything!
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qPNSC65X8vAJ:https://www.victorinox.com/de/en/Wine-Master/cms/wine-master+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ua
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Little Tinker on August 25, 2017, 09:33:33 PM
Did this (or similar) get linked already  ???:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNulP4sb5Es (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNulP4sb5Es)I couldn't see it if it did.

Bah.  Not showing correctly for me.  Breaking it a bit:   https:// www.youtube.com/watch ?v=GNulP4sb5Es 
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: marduk on August 30, 2017, 03:20:03 PM
According to a Vic brochure, the new Wine Master will be available September 11 at a cost of CHF 129. It will be a 130mm Ranger style model and will come w/a choice of 2 different wooden scales: Walnut (0.9701.63) or Olive (0.9701.64) and a leather pouch.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on September 02, 2017, 04:06:40 PM
According to a Vic brochure, the new Wine Master will be available September 11 at a cost of CHF 129. It will be a 130mm Ranger style model and will come w/a choice of 2 different wooden scales: Walnut (0.9701.63) or Olive (0.9701.64) and a leather pouch.

Ouch, that's pretty expensive.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Smashie on September 02, 2017, 04:10:55 PM
Still waiting on that carbon cybertool that should have been out by now  :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Don Pablo on September 02, 2017, 05:53:13 PM
And what about the 111mm alox?  :wait:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: GoatDragon on September 02, 2017, 06:03:02 PM
Still waiting on that carbon cybertool that should have been out by now  :ahhh

All hail the hypnocat.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: strmliner on September 02, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
Are there already pics of the Hunter Pro Alox?

Seconded. Do we even know anything about it, like what tools it will have?
:ahhh

The Hunter Pro is just one big blade, no tools. I hope it is a really big one hand opening Alox Solo.

Syph007 commented on the Hunter Pro a few years ago...didn't give it very high marks; in fact didn't seem to like it's design/mfgring at all.
If I wanted to carry something that big as a single-blade EDC, I think there are too many other good choices.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: GoatDragon on September 02, 2017, 06:12:02 PM
Are there already pics of the Hunter Pro Alox?

Seconded. Do we even know anything about it, like what tools it will have?
:ahhh

The Hunter Pro is just one big blade, no tools. I hope it is a really big one hand opening Alox Solo.

Syph007 commented on the Hunter Pro a few years ago...didn't give it very high marks; in fact didn't seem to like it's design/mfgring at all.
If I wanted to carry something that big as a single-blade EDC, I think there are too many other good choices.
Maybe so, but I still want to see a picture of it...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 02, 2017, 08:46:55 PM
Still waiting on that carbon cybertool that should have been out by now  :ahhh
Me too... was supposed to come out end of february :ahhh
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on September 11, 2017, 10:49:04 AM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q
Title: New models for 2017
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 11, 2017, 01:52:49 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q (https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q)

Hooray!!
Now maybe they can stop putting a corkscrew on every other model.
The Swiss must drink an obscene amount of wine for all the importance they put on having a corkscrew at all times.

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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on September 11, 2017, 02:55:32 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q (https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q)

Hooray!!
Now maybe they can stop putting a corkscrew on every other model.
The Swiss must drink an obscene amount of wine for all the importance they put on having a corkscrew at all times.

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LOOLL  :rofl:

Mate... If you came from, or had grown up in Country that produces some of the world's finest wines, and has a proper wine culture you would understand....  :facepalm:

A lot of the casual Sak users over here, if you give them a choice between having a CS or an SD on their sak's probably 70% or so would prefer the CS. And they don't need to drink "an obscene amount of wine"...  :pok:
About 90% of all wine sold at stores or supermarket over here and in most of fine wine producing countries are corked glass wine bottles. Any wine that comes in any other kind of containers is usually used for cooking, not drinking...

If we go down that route we could use the same analogy for the bottle opener and can opener to an extent... :pok:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Padre on September 11, 2017, 04:10:52 PM
 ..but too many openers is obsolete then... and it is.
:/
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 11, 2017, 04:38:12 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q (https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q)

Hooray!!
Now maybe they can stop putting a corkscrew on every other model.
The Swiss must drink an obscene amount of wine for all the importance they put on having a corkscrew at all times.

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LOOLL  :rofl:

Mate... If you came from, or had grown up in Country that produces some of the world's finest wines, and has a proper wine culture you would understand....  :facepalm:

A lot of the casual Sak users over here, if you give them a choice between having a CS or an SD on their sak's probably 70% or so would prefer the CS. And they don't need to drink "an obscene amount of wine"...  :pok:
About 90% of all wine sold at stores or supermarket over here and in most of fine wine producing countries are corked glass wine bottles. Any wine that comes in any other kind of containers is usually used for cooking, not drinking...

If we go down that route we could use the same analogy for the bottle opener and can opener to an extent... :pok:
Also, the backtool Philips is useless, the can opener does a better job. So, CS all the way. Plus you can store your eye-glass screwdriver in the CS.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on September 11, 2017, 04:38:21 PM
..but too many openers is obsolete then... and it is.
:/

Well... i guess it really depends if you actually look at them as "openers"... I don't...  :cheers:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on September 12, 2017, 01:39:55 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q


I've never seen a 2-stage hinged lever like that on this kind of corkscrew.  Seems like an unnecessary complication, but maybe it's better to use somehow.
The olive wood version looks nice.
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 12, 2017, 01:55:18 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q


I've never seen a 2-stage hinged lever like that on this kind of corkscrew.  Seems like an unnecessary complication, but maybe it's better to use somehow.
The olive wood version looks nice.
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.
All good CS are 2-staged and hinged or at least here they are. Works a lot better than a 1-stage.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Fortytwo on September 13, 2017, 01:54:15 AM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q


I've never seen a 2-stage hinged lever like that on this kind of corkscrew.  Seems like an unnecessary complication, but maybe it's better to use somehow.
The olive wood version looks nice.
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.
All good CS are 2-staged and hinged or at least here they are. Works a lot better than a 1-stage.

Slight correction: all good handheld corkscrews are hinged. I sometimes wish there was enough wine in my life to actually warrant setting up the Swiss made Rapid corkscrew I found for next to nothing. Like this. Doesn't really fit I'm my EDC though... :whistle:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/51/5d/b1515d9661f9be36eab514526a46ba28.jpg)

But yes, the hinging makes a lot of difference!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: smiller43147 on September 13, 2017, 03:51:08 AM
Specifically, the "hinging" gives you compound leverage.  Takes about a third the amount of force to remove the cork.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: shibafu on September 13, 2017, 12:32:50 PM
I guess the difference between this 2-stage fulcrum and the "normal" waiter's friend type of corkscrew is that you get more leverage, because the fulcrum and the corkscrew can be closer together.  With the type I'm familiar with, there needs to be more distance between the screw and the fulcrum, so there's enough clearance to hook it over the rim of the bottle.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 13, 2017, 01:09:31 PM

Wine Master

https://youtu.be/ea-8ReOs_0Q


I've never seen a 2-stage hinged lever like that on this kind of corkscrew.  Seems like an unnecessary complication, but maybe it's better to use somehow.
The olive wood version looks nice.
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.
All good CS are 2-staged and hinged or at least here they are. Works a lot better than a 1-stage.

Slight correction: all good handheld corkscrews are hinged. I sometimes wish there was enough wine in my life to actually warrant setting up the Swiss made Rapid corkscrew I found for next to nothing. Like this. Doesn't really fit I'm my EDC though... :whistle:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/51/5d/b1515d9661f9be36eab514526a46ba28.jpg)

But yes, the hinging makes a lot of difference!
:tu:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: pfrsantos on September 13, 2017, 01:21:57 PM
It also lets you get all of the screw inside the cork before applying force to remove the cork from the bottle. The handle stays at a more horizontal position for you to start pulling it up. Takes less strength to use it. When it gets about 45º, you switch to the second stage and the handle is once again closer to the horizontal position, again easier to start applying force to it.

Important note: DO NOT MOVE THE BOTTLE, MOVE THE OPENER! This prevents the eventual sediments to get stirred and "cloud" the wine.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Demel on September 13, 2017, 03:17:08 PM
Looks cool until you see it... 
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/0b9aff4c31bd3952ff3136e1b927f7c3.jpg)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: pfrsantos on September 13, 2017, 03:58:28 PM
Here's a correct DIY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFBt4d5UTY
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: pfrsantos on September 13, 2017, 04:01:01 PM
On the same subject, the two-bladed cork remover (can't call it cork screw, since you don't smurf the cork...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSE93hgcbo
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on September 13, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
Besides WineMaster, we have two another updates! :)


Explorer LE2017. White Christmas
Huntsman LE2018. Year of the Dog


PDF-files you can view/download in my blog (https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox).  :cheers:

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 13, 2017, 04:37:01 PM
Besides WineMaster, we have two another updates! :)


Explorer LE2017. White Christmas
Huntsman LE2017. Year of the Dog


PDF-files you can view/download in my blog (https://leaf-vics.com/different-documents-from-victorinox).  :cheers:
You have any idea on the ETA of the carbon cybertool and the Alox Bladeless with flash-drive USB 3.0/3.1;
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on September 13, 2017, 04:40:16 PM
You have any idea on the ETA of the carbon cybertool and the Alox Bladeless with flash-drive USB 3.0/3.1;
Carbon CT - no idea. 58-mm with USB3.0 and Hunter Pro Alox - this month (here, in Ukraine)
Keep my fingers crossed! ;)
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Little Tinker on September 13, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.

And here's how it looks in the shop window of the UK flagship store with that magnificent price tag.  You can't see it in the photo, but the pouch / sheath has "Winemaster" written on it.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mechanickal on September 13, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
Like the look of that Christmass Explorer.
Wonder what the price would be.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 13, 2017, 05:33:32 PM
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.

And here's how it looks in the shop window of the UK flagship store with that magnificent price tag.  You can't see it in the photo, but the pouch / sheath has "Winemaster" written on it.

....compared to a waiter at about 1/10 the price  :facepalm:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: pfrsantos on September 13, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
Like Love the look of that Christmass Explorer.
Wonder Affraid what the price would be.

FTFY...
 :whistle:
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mechanickal on September 13, 2017, 06:50:20 PM
Like Love the look of that Christmass Explorer.
Wonder Affraid what the price would be.

FTFY...
 :whistle:
That's my wallet speaking.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: pfrsantos on September 13, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
Like Love the look of that Christmass Explorer.
Wonder Affraid what the price would be.

FTFY...
 :whistle:
That's my wallet awllet speaking.

FTFY... again!
 :whistle:

Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: EMZ on September 14, 2017, 07:22:45 AM
I wonder why Victorinox didn't put a cheese blade on the Winemaster, plus the serated 'bread knife' of the cheese knife instead of this plain blade. You would have it all in one knife! And name it "Restaurant Deluxe' or something alike.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Mechanickal on September 14, 2017, 08:43:32 AM
I wonder why Victorinox didn't put a cheese blade on the Winemaster, plus the serated 'bread knife' of the cheese knife instead of this plain blade. You would have it all in one knife! And name it "Restaurant Deluxe' or something alike.
Because you would have all in one blade...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 14, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
But it's £135 on the Victorinox UK shop, ouch.

And here's how it looks in the shop window of the UK flagship store with that magnificent price tag.  You can't see it in the photo, but the pouch / sheath has "Winemaster" written on it.

....compared to a waiter at about 1/10 the price  :facepalm:
130$ here...
Title: New models for 2017
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 16, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
...the backtool Philips is useless, the can opener does a better job...
LOL! It's not useless. I've used it on several occasions. No, the can opener doesn't do a better job. The can opener cannot reach recessed screws while the #2 Phillips can. Mini screwdriver? Yeah, that's a worthwhile tool for most people. Seems the redeeming quality of the corkscrew is to serve as a holder for a better tool. Well, OK. The corkscrew was on the market long before the mini screwdriver. I think the mini driver was brought to market with the aim to redeem the almost obsolete screwdriver.
Still, I think VIC has gone way overkill with the CS. Nearly every model they offer has a version with a corkscrew. Put it on this new bartender version and maybe a couple of other select models, but every model in the catalog doesn't need a CS version. It's a bit much. Even with Europe swimming in wine, I still don't think there's a need for that many corkscrews floating around. You can't do any real work with a corkscrew other than get yourself tipsy. So one could argue that it actually leads to less productivity. LOL!
It was a cute novelty for awhile and now it's become an icon, but Vic is leaning on that crutch a little too heavy in my opinion. They seem content to slack off on the R & D of the back tools. I'd like to see a new tool developed that excels when used from the back perpendicular side.



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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: EMZ on September 16, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
I totally agree!
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on September 18, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
The can opener cannot reach recessed screws while the #2 Phillips can.
That goes both ways, the back-layer Phillips requires a lot of room to operate, more room than I usually have in a computer case.
The back-layer Phillips allows for a lot of torque but is probably the weakest tool they produce. Its the only tool I mangled during light use (if you apply enough force you can brake any tool).

To be fair, the only 91mm that I carry with a degree of regularity is the CT (no need for a back-layer Phillips there), else its Soldier '61 or Pioneer X for me. Because of that I favor the CS. I use it as punch, scraper, to carry stuff (can't remember when I last used it to open a bottle, must have been years).
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jcfiguet on September 26, 2017, 12:52:55 PM
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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: jcfiguet on September 26, 2017, 01:03:15 PM
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Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MacGyver on September 26, 2017, 02:44:37 PM
Well... I've said it and i'll say it again, for me the Phillips vs corkscrew thing is completely irrelevant to me, functionality wise both of them can't take much torque. I have other ways to use SD's on saks without the need to have a actual Phillips there, all i need is the full opening layer. As for the CS, i rarely drink wine and even less have the need to actually use it to open a bottle. I have the mini SD there but i've also have an equivalent i carry along with other bits, so there is some redundancy.

Aesthetically i like both of them, so i can get by perfectly with either of them, or even none of them. The only back tool i use more regularly is the awl, and still one has to be care full tot to put too much torque into it...  :-\
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: smiller43147 on November 22, 2017, 10:07:24 PM
2017 is ending soon.  Any news on the Alox Hunter Pro?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on November 22, 2017, 10:26:05 PM
2017 is ending soon.  Any news on the Alox Hunter Pro?


Seems, it will not be released. Company has faced with some difficulties in technology process - prototype was developed only as 3D render and nothing more :(
P.S. It's an unofficial information. Unfortunatelly I cannot say more (for now).
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on November 22, 2017, 10:28:23 PM
I was wondering how they would do it. The Hunter Pro´s scales are 3D contoured unlike other alox models.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on November 22, 2017, 10:30:55 PM
I was wondering how they would do it. The Hunter Pro´s scales are 3D contoured unlike other alox models.
Imagine Hunter Pro with the regular (I mean flat) alox scales..
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on November 22, 2017, 10:34:03 PM
That way an important part of the ergonomics would be lost.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: LeaF on November 22, 2017, 10:37:34 PM
That way an important part of the ergonomics would be lost.
Sad, but true...
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Ron Who on November 22, 2017, 10:40:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MTG on December 26, 2017, 01:14:49 AM
Really nice and subdued shade of green on that alox. Sadly the X isn't included in the holy trinity.

Which models make up the Holy Trinity?
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: zoidberg on December 26, 2017, 02:50:13 AM
Really nice and subdued shade of green on that alox. Sadly the X isn't included in the holy trinity.

Which models make up the Holy Trinity?

(https://leaf-vics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/le2017.png)

Pioneer, Cadet and a Classic.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: MTG on December 26, 2017, 03:21:35 AM
  thanks  :D
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: garza_andrew on January 20, 2018, 05:54:20 PM
So it is now 2018. Has anyone heard what the 2018 Limited Edition Alox color will be? I am probably not the only one chomping at the bit for them to be released or at lease pics to be released/leaked.
Title: Re: New models for 2017
Post by: Etherealicer on January 22, 2018, 02:28:47 PM
So it is now 2018. Has anyone heard what the 2018 Limited Edition Alox color will be? I am probably not the only one chomping at the bit for them to be released or at lease pics to be released/leaked.
Nah, I'm still waiting on the carbon CT that was supposed to be released February 2017