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Tool Talk => Swiss Army Knights Forum => Topic started by: T14 on May 04, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
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Wat!?! ??? :dd:
Spotted on facebook. Looks legit
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https://outdoorwerk.ch/epages/171500.sf/de_CH/?ObjectPath=/Shops/171500/Products/vic1-17010 :gimme:
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Very interesting, i'll keep this in mind :salute:
Thanks for sharing!
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:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
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:like:
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A custom model it would seem... From the looks of it, based on a Forester.. with added scissors and awl from a Pio X... but I could be wrong...
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Usually there would be a Phillips hiding under the scissors on a 111.
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A custom model it would seem... From the looks of it, based on a Forester.. with added scissors and awl from a Pio X... but I could be wrong...
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You're right, the scissors have the nailnick on the other side, like on the P-X!
Well spotted!
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That was originally the model I wanted to mod initially... minus the awl of course... but decided to wait for the liner lock outrider to come out...
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Usually there would be a Phillips hiding under the scissors on a 111.
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Hi, you say it well: "usually"
Does anyone know when appeared the inline Phillips for the outrider model?? Could you help me dating it??
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Koke
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I'd like to see a pic of the awl closed - I wonder how it would sit against the curves of the 111mm scale. :think:
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I will post some pictures when I received it
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I will post some pictures when I received it
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Nice one Fiddy! Who knows what havoc you will wreak with that awl! :ahhh
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I'd like to see a pic of the awl closed - I wonder how it would sit against the curves of the 111mm scale. :think:
I'm very curious about this as well.
Can't wait to see the pictures!
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Yes! A thousand times yes!
(http://i.imgur.com/8nzZ76r.gif)
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Omg... got to get one... or two... can anyone help out a chap in Australia? :) The postage charge is insane from the shop :/
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Omg... got to get one... or two... can anyone help out a chap in Australia? :) The postage charge is insane from the shop :/
How much is one? We could split the shipping for four or something. :tu:
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Omg... got to get one... or two... can anyone help out a chap in Australia? :) The postage charge is insane from the shop :/
How much is one? We could split the shipping for four or something. :tu:
69 CHF = 70 USD = 95 AUD.
mmmmmm, I'll have to think about it. :-\
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69 CHF = 70 USD = 95 AUD.
mmmmmm, I'll have to think about it. :-\
A few more Aussies in; or a helper from across the seas? :)
I'm staring at what appears to be my dream EDC SAK here... I'm keen!
One handed opening, plain edge blade, liner lock, locking bottle open/screwdriver, scissors... the inline awl in place of the can opener that I rarely use (and have in heaps of my regular set anyway); if it has the inline philips I'll be even more elated, but as it, this is absolutely awesome! ZOMG
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I will post some pictures when I received it
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Ordered a couple as well even though I don't really collect or use 111mm SAKs :) But I really like this quirky model.
We should have done a group buy to save on shipping :)
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I will post some pictures when I received it
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Ordered a couple as well even though I don't really collect or use 111mm SAKs :) But I really like this quirky model.
We should have done a group buy to save on shipping :)
Yup, should have... :oops:
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It looks like it also has an awl on the back side but the drawing says otherwise.
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It looks like it also has an awl on the back side but the drawing says otherwise.
Two awls is awlways better than one awl :D
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It looks like it also has an awl on the back side but the drawing says otherwise.
Two awls is awlways better than one awl :D
Oh no not again :D
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I also thought I spotted a second awl on the back. BTW the site announces a version with olive wood scales, available soon.
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Oh no, not something else I want :ahhh
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I will post some pictures when I received it
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Nice one Fiddy! Who knows what havoc you will wreak with that awl! :ahhh
Use it in the awl thread?
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Two awls is awlways better than one awl :D
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I'd like to get one, but shipping for me comes to 60 CHF, which is almost as much as the knife.
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How would you improve this sak?
My thoughts:
-The inline phillips under the scissors is a must. It's too good to leave out, especially considering the scissors are already there.
-Metal file. Not too much added thickness and weight, for a useful tool.
-Serrated rescue blade. Optional, but would be nice.
What's up with that store? Is this the only 111mm with inline awl they have?
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It seems this survival tool is a collaboration btween SOS survival school and Victorinox... and Outdoorwerks is the only one selling this... and yes it looks like its the only model there... For outdoor survival stuff they probably think that the metal file and phillips aren't that necessary... unnecessary tools means reduction in weight and size...Thats just my guess...
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One thing is for sure though and basically reconfirms what we have thought so far, scissors on the liner locks are exactly like those found on the pioneer x.
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Got it in the mail today.
It's late and dark outside so all I can provide now is smurfy pictures in artificial light. Better pics will come tomorrow!
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Nice!! :tu:
The awl seems to be sitting well on the curves, just the part near the pivot touching the liner?
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Nice!! :tu:
The awl seems to be sitting well on the curves, just the part near the pivot touching the liner?
Correct
No wait, not correct. The part around two thirds away from the pivot touches the liner!
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:drool:
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So much want! :dd: Anyone out there feeling generous like should hook a brother up.
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Nice!! :tu:
The awl seems to be sitting well on the curves, just the part near the pivot touching the liner?
Correct
No wait, not correct. The part around two thirds away from the pivot touches the liner!
:salute: The important thing is that no pokey bits are exposed.
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Thanks for the pics! So the inline phillips is indeed missing. Shame...
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Thanks for the pics! So the inline phillips is indeed missing. Shame...
Yes. Do those exist in the bigger pin size?
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Does this even have a name? :think:
It should be in the wiki.
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Does this even have a name? :think:
It should be in the wiki.
They call it the OutdoorTool on the website (https://outdoorwerk.ch/epages/171500.sf/de_CH/?ObjectPath=/Shops/171500/Products/vic1-17010).
Some more pics I made before leaving to work:
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/8bf5078874bdb009fcb4b8f0b26f98a8.jpg)
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So it does have two awls?
That's awl I need to know :facepalm:
If it has it's probably the only SAK that has two awls.
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So it does have two awls?
That's awl I need to know :facepalm:
If it has it's probably the only SAK that has two awls.
It does :D
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That is an amazing SAK G-Fiddy! Up until now I had absolutely no interest in the 111mm range. :facepalm:
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Does this even have a name? :think:
It should be in the wiki.
They call it the OutdoorTool on the website (https://outdoorwerk.ch/epages/171500.sf/de_CH/?ObjectPath=/Shops/171500/Products/vic1-17010).
Some more pics I made before leaving to work:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/3074895075154cce19944402966585a2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/8bf5078874bdb009fcb4b8f0b26f98a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/07496e8f9b07e850e57b05b821face1b.jpg)
I beg to differ...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/2b9ce2fe2e0d1265ce7f971b9ee4fd8d.jpg)
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It's awl we could ever want... and more.
More seriously... chap at the shop was helpful and I have two on the way to Australia for total of 24 Euro shipping. Still expensive but not the 60 Euro shipping the website claims!
Sad that there's no Phillips underneath the scissors but it's still awltogether magnificent...
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So it does have two awls?
That's awl I need to know :facepalm:
If it has it's probably the only SAK that has two awls.
I beg to differ...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/4949dcba982a5505efc208f501a2796a.jpg)
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Does this even have a name? :think:
It should be in the wiki.
They call it the OutdoorTool on the website (https://outdoorwerk.ch/epages/171500.sf/de_CH/?ObjectPath=/Shops/171500/Products/vic1-17010).
Some more pics I made before leaving to work:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/3074895075154cce19944402966585a2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/8bf5078874bdb009fcb4b8f0b26f98a8.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/07496e8f9b07e850e57b05b821face1b.jpg)
I beg to differ...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170512/2b9ce2fe2e0d1265ce7f971b9ee4fd8d.jpg)
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Oops... replied to the wrong post and there's no way to delete... :facepalm:
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That is an amazing SAK G-Fiddy! Up until now I had absolutely no interest in the 111mm range. :facepalm:
It's the two awls part that aroused your interest, isn't it? Admit it! :cheers:
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You know me so well Fiddy. Here's another two 'beg to differs' (and hopefully poncho and 50ft Trad will chime in with theirs too):
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4189/34608836225_89b31c53ed_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UJgkfR)GreenwoodPikachu (https://flic.kr/p/UJgkfR) by magpie2112 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145157638@N06/), on Flickr
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Oops... replied to the wrong post and there's no way to delete... :facepalm:
It's only fitting to reply with a double post in a topic about two awls.
Is that a modded SAK, I don't know of any 91mm Cellidor with the inline awl.
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Oops... replied to the wrong post and there's no way to delete... :facepalm:
It's only fitting to reply with a double post in a topic about two awls.
Is that a modded SAK, I don't know of any 91mm Cellidor with the inline awl.
The XAVT and XXLT have two awls (inline and backside).
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Oops... replied to the wrong post and there's no way to delete... :facepalm:
It's only fitting to reply with a double post in a topic about two awls.
Is that a modded SAK, I don't know of any 91mm Cellidor with the inline awl.
Yes, it is...
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Just reading this thread now. That's a heck of a good tool that ticks a lot of boxes for what I like in a outdoors SAK. :salute:
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Did you guys see they raised the price with 20 CHF (around $20)! :o
They probably noticed the sudden popularity of this knife!
Glad I got mine for 64 CHF (plus shipping) ::)
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Did you guys see they raised the price with 20 CHF (around $20)! :o
They probably noticed the sudden popularity of this knife!
Glad I got mine for 64 CHF (plus shipping) ::)
It's up to 89 now. Went from NZ$95 to NZ$130. WTF.
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Gee, I guess they will see sales go down then. That's quite expensive.
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Gee, I guess they will see sales go down then. That's quite expensive.
They should be paying Multitool for all this free publicity!
Glad I ordered mine last week; just takes ages for anything to get to the UK :rant:
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I just picked up mine at the post office. Cool model!
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/victorinox-111mm-outdoor-tool-inline-awl.jpg)
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Still waiting.... :whistle: At this rate I may go to Switzerland to pick it up!
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Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:
But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/victorinox-111mm-inline-awl-flaw.jpg)
BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.
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Oh my... Thats not good. :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right? :ahhh
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Oh my... Thats not good. :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right? :ahhh
I'm afraid you're right. The rivets getting loose is not good at awl. Excuse the pun.
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Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:
But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/victorinox-111mm-inline-awl-flaw.jpg)
BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.
And considering that torque is applied to the awl this is an accident waiting to happen. :facepalm:
I'll remove it from my wishlist, that's a shame.
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Oh my... Thats not good. :o
That will either wear the liner and bend it permanently or loosen the rivet, or both, right? :ahhh
I'm afraid you're right. The rivets getting loose is not good at awl. Excuse the pun.
Considering how easy the awl opens and how easy the liner makes room for it, it's very well possible that the pin was "tightened" with the awl opened, leaving enough space for the awl to move freely. Not an ideal solution and nothing for Vic to be proud of, but I don't really think there is a danger of the pin bushing to break off. :think:
But if you want to be sure about this, someone should remove the scales and take a look at the pin and bushings ::)
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Maybe this will help Victorinox realize the need for a dedicated 111mm model inline monster awl?
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Fun fact: this model is not flawless. I would say flawled but that's an awlful joke :facepalm:
But seriously: when opened, the awl pushes the liner and scale outwards. I'm surprised that Victorinox OK'd this design!
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/victorinox-111mm-inline-awl-flaw.jpg)
BTW, it looks like they designed a new stainless steel spacer to make up for the difference in thickness between the opener layer and the awl.
:o :ahhh :ahhh
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I got one as well. A little attention from the Dremel will sort out the in line awl problem. I've just had a good look at mine and there is an additional spacer between the backspring for the awl and the scale, so it 'should' stay tight. Time will tell.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/19005704c0bb8299be8e7dd800198666.jpg)
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Got mine as well after getting hit with huge custom charges :rant: This is a great knife and the awl 'problem' will be sorted by wear of the awl on the aluminium liner or, as smashie said, use a dremel.
And no one's mentioned the secret pin yet....
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And no ones mentioned the secret pin yet....
I did!
But on Facebook :facepalm:
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And no ones mentioned the secret pin yet....
I did!
But on Facebook :facepalm:
Well! Now we know where your true allegiance lies! :pok: :D
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He came to me too. Ask if Victorinox will improve the awl, and if so then when?
(http://i.imgur.com/boXkT3f.jpg)
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Makes me sad them putting out a knife like that.
I know nothing about the cost of design and production etc and I don't spend a lot.
But I'm just not seeing that they cared with this design and if they don't then how am I suppose to?
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Does seem a little sloppy for them. Not having any type of Philips driver though is a deal breaker for me. Wonder if they're using that scale on any other 111mm knives.
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So, any of you looking to sell that flAWLed 111??
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So, any of you looking to sell that flAWLed 111??
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I have 2 for sale :)
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So, any of you looking to sell that flAWLed 111??
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I have 2 for sale :)
You have the SOS 111mm with inline awl for sale?? How much??
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You have the SOS 111mm with inline awl for sale?? How much??
Yes, I listed them in the trade section but at one point I withdrew everything. But yes, they are still available. I'm asking €70 each, but shipping may be a bit expensive since they are too big to be shipped in a bubble envelope. So probably around €25 I'm afraid.
It's these two (pic posted before):
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/24-gosos-survival-outdoor-school-inline-awl.jpg)
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You have the SOS 111mm with inline awl for sale?? How much??
Yes, I listed them in the trade section but at one point I withdrew everything. But yes, they are still available. I'm asking €70 each, but shipping may be a bit expensive since they are too big to be shipped in a bubble envelope. So probably around €25 I'm afraid.
It's these two (pic posted before):
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/24-gosos-survival-outdoor-school-inline-awl.jpg)
Ok. Let me think on it. Might have to sell something to buy one of those. They’re gorgeous for sure!!!
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If anyone happens to be after one in Australia, I'll sell one for $100 including registered postage. New condition.
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Hi. I ’m considering to take it If zxroa1, doesn’t want it.
How much would be the shipping to Spain?
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I’m going to actually pass for now. Might be a mistake but I have an awl incoming and I’m going to try to mod one of my 111’s and build exactly what I want.
Thank you for the offer to sell though!!!
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I’m going to actually pass for now. Might be a mistake but I have an awl incoming and I’m going to try to mod one of my 111’s and build exactly what I want.
Thank you for the offer to sell though!!!
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Sigh...
Been setting here trying to decide what to do here. I have an awl coming tomorrow to be used as mod fodder. I was thinking of modding my Centurion, replacing the can opener tool with the awl. That should be the easiest way to go. I never use the can opener but I do use that smaller flat head for things. Hmmm...
Then I thought of modding a DAK I have, replacing the second, curved n serrated blade. That would leave my can opener/flat blade alone but then it looks as if the awl would not work there as that end is much taller and the awl would not set there.
I also thought of still doing the mod to my Centurion but at the same time transferring the OH blade from my Sentinel to the Centurion but then I’d lose the half stop the Centurion blade has.
Decisions, Decisions....
Then I think, it would be nice to add a scissors layer.... I’m getting a headache!!! Haha.
Maybe I’ll just tear my Hercules apart and use it!!! LOL
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You have the SOS 111mm with inline awl for sale?? How much??
Yes, I listed them in the trade section but at one point I withdrew everything. But yes, they are still available. I'm asking €70 each, but shipping may be a bit expensive since they are too big to be shipped in a bubble envelope. So probably around €25 I'm afraid.
It's these two (pic posted before):
(http://www.vicfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/24-gosos-survival-outdoor-school-inline-awl.jpg)
So, as zrxoa1 will do a great job by himself....
Reinier, is there one available and could be delivered to Spain?
I’ll PM you tomorrow morning :)