Post by: an0nemus on September 05, 2017, 02:05:31 PM
What do you think are the pros and cons of doing this? ???
(https://thingiverse-production-new.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/9f/a9/88/d7/d4/dc73fa4bbc8acf588cfd204b6c9bf620_preview_featured.jpg)
Here's the 3D file released for public use
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2515907
The announcement can be read on their FB page here
https://www.facebook.com/RemadeKnives/
Post by: lister on September 05, 2017, 03:22:33 PM
Post by: an0nemus on September 05, 2017, 04:20:27 PM
Do these have slots for scale tools?Yes, see actual scales shared with me. Last I heard an updated design is in the works, with tighter tolerance
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Post by: magentus on September 05, 2017, 04:23:48 PM
Post by: an0nemus on September 05, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
They look great! Love the orange. If any UK members are up for a group buy let me know.
Im actually organizing a group buy in my country as some said its worth the risk to try it out here. The guy with the 3D printer I contacted said he can even do wood. But he hasn't worked with SAKs before so I have some concerns.... :-\
Post by: strmliner on September 05, 2017, 08:11:41 PM
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 06, 2017, 01:26:35 AM
Post by: dkop1 on September 06, 2017, 03:43:21 AM
I wouldn't be too worried about him being SAK experienced or not. The primary concern in additive manufacturing is whether or not their machine and the way they operate it can produce parts to tolerance and to the best mechanical properties of the material :tu:They look great! Love the orange. If any UK members are up for a group buy let me know.
Im actually organizing a group buy in my country as some said its worth the risk to try it out here. The guy with the 3D printer I contacted said he can even do wood. But he hasn't worked with SAKs before so I have some concerns.... :-\
much like a machinist, if you give them good data to produce a part and they do their job well on decent equipment, you'll get a very functional end product.
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 04:20:52 AM
Great idea and definitely worth looking into, though the shipping costs out of country will greatly diminish the pricing paradigm. But I like the concept! :like:
localized 3D printing is the way to go in the future :tu:
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 04:26:59 AM
I think I get what you mean. Im also concerned about the plastic material he will use as it's most probably not nylon and definitely not cellidor, given the price estimate he gave ($2 per pair).I wouldn't be too worried about him being SAK experienced or not. The primary concern in additive manufacturing is whether or not their machine and the way they operate it can produce parts to tolerance and to the best mechanical properties of the material :tu:They look great! Love the orange. If any UK members are up for a group buy let me know.
Im actually organizing a group buy in my country as some said its worth the risk to try it out here. The guy with the 3D printer I contacted said he can even do wood. But he hasn't worked with SAKs before so I have some concerns.... :-\
much like a machinist, if you give them good data to produce a part and they do their job well on decent equipment, you'll get a very functional end product.
I also heard SwissBianco said in his video that while his scales are CNC milled, the SAK frames are not and rivets might need adjustments. So I'm concerned that the plastic chosen by the printer might be brittle (?). So now I'm curious to know what exact plastic material to ask. I'll discuss with the printer.
As for the carbon fiber, here are the samples he gave
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/2b864169ffbfc60d0995e4bba3da1f58.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/6a70d1d6861ba82ab10dea0e81e73d7e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/32261cbfeb5aedbb1f5f29cc40b747f9.jpg)
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 04:28:58 AM
8) :tu:
In the future, maybe we'll design a Tuxedo version named El C :D :cheers:
Post by: Aloha on September 06, 2017, 07:21:21 AM
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2017, 07:38:30 AM
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2017, 07:40:17 AM
Haven't got a 3D printer but you never know when it may come in handy.
And don't want to risk it going offline again soon :D
Post by: Corwyn on September 06, 2017, 08:09:50 AM
In for both carbon fiber and plastic.
Note Czech to Romania should be cheap to ship and most importantly, no customs.
Ow... scratch that.. I misstook the Phillipine flag for Czech.. darn...
Well.. if UK group order, I'm in.. if not...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Flag_of_the_Philippines.svg/900px-Flag_of_the_Philippines.svg.png)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg/900px-Flag_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg.png)
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2017, 08:46:39 AM
Post by: MacGyver on September 06, 2017, 08:54:36 AM
That's great news for the guys who love the customized sak's :cheers:
Personally I won't be interested because as much as customized sak's look good and interesting to look at, as far as cellidor sak's go for me there is only one color and material, classic red cellidor :D
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 09:40:37 AM
Looks good guys :tu:
That's great news for the guys who love the customized sak's :cheers:
Personally I won't be interested because as much as customized sak's look good and interesting to look at, as far as cellidor sak's go for me there is only one color and material, classic red cellidor :D
If only Victorinox sells their scales locally but they refuse to. My guess is Victorinox (or their country distributor here) prefer that customers buy new SAKs rather than install new scales :twak:
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
Shotgun! :rofl:
:think:
Post by: magentus on September 06, 2017, 09:45:10 AM
'Shotgun' is an expression relating to reserving the best seat, ie front passenger seat of a car - riding shotgun. Nick is stating he'd like to be included in your group buy/GAW. (I hope :D) :tu:Shotgun! :rofl:
:think:
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 09:47:48 AM
'Shotgun' is an expression relating to reserving the best seat, ie front passenger seat of a car - riding shotgun. Nick is stating he'd like to be included in your group buy/GAW. (I hope :D ) :tu:Shotgun! :rofl:
:think:
Got it! I sure would like to return the GAW favor :2tu:
Post by: Mechanickal on September 06, 2017, 10:04:50 AM
'Shotgun' is an expression relating to reserving the best seat, ie front passenger seat of a car - riding shotgun. Nick is stating he'd like to be included in your group buy/GAW. (I hope :D ) :tu:Shotgun! :rofl:
:think:
Got it! I sure would like to return the GAW favor :2tu:
What Mags said :D :tu:
Post by: magentus on September 06, 2017, 10:10:21 AM
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 10:15:03 AM
000000001 - Mags
(http://smileyicons.net/s/498.gif)
Post by: Don Pablo on September 06, 2017, 10:15:25 AM
000000010 - Pabs
Post by: Don Pablo on September 06, 2017, 10:16:16 AM
My my, what big teeth you have! :ahhh000000001 - Mags
(http://smileyicons.net/s/498.gif)
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
My my, what big teeth you have! :ahhh000000001 - Mags
(http://smileyicons.net/s/498.gif)
(http://smileyicons.net/s/389.gif)
By the way, I made an online list of those who are interested in our local group. I'm just a few commitment short. Will try to recruit more guinea pigs :D
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VNOMfrc9nlCRpaZQLN3Rk77VbXcRhDbCIBcPRj9e9Pg/edit#gid=0
Post by: magentus on September 06, 2017, 10:26:57 AM
000000002 - Guinea pig 'Cheeky'
000000003 - Guinea pig 'Fluffy'
000000004 - Guinea pig 'Bubbles'
000000005 - Guinea pig 'Benny'
000000006 - Guinea pig 'Fudgie'
000000007 - Guinea pig 'Smurfy'
000000010 - Pabs
Enough already? :D
Post by: an0nemus on September 06, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
000000001 - Mags
000000002 - Guinea pig 'Cheeky'
000000003 - Guinea pig 'Fluffy'
000000004 - Guinea pig 'Bubbles'
000000005 - Guinea pig 'Benny'
000000006 - Guinea pig 'Fudgie'
000000007 - Guinea pig 'Smurfy'
000000010 - Pabs
Enough already? :D
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Don Pablo on September 06, 2017, 10:52:11 AM
000000001 - MagsI thought that we were doing this in binary? :think:
000000002 - Guinea pig 'Cheeky'
000000003 - Guinea pig 'Fluffy'
000000004 - Guinea pig 'Bubbles'
000000005 - Guinea pig 'Benny'
000000006 - Guinea pig 'Fudgie'
000000007 - Guinea pig 'Smurfy'
000000010 - Pabs
Enough already? :D
Anyway, fixed.
000000001 - Mags
000000010 - Pabs
000000011 - Guinea pig 'Cheeky'
000000100 - Guinea pig 'Fluffy'
000000101 - Guinea pig 'Bubbles'
000000110 - Guinea pig 'Benny'
000000111 - Guinea pig 'Fudgie'
000001000 - Guinea pig 'Smurfy'
Post by: Don Pablo on September 06, 2017, 10:53:22 AM
:nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance::nanadance:
Post by: dkop1 on September 08, 2017, 02:09:07 PM
The most popular materials for hobbyist FDM printing are ABS plastic (think Lego blocks) and PLA (a biodegradable plastic). However, the range of potential materials is huge. If it's a SLS or UV curing material, you can get much finer results. But at such a low price, I can only guess at what sort of machine he's using. Most inexpensive machines and materials are done on FDM.I think I get what you mean. Im also concerned about the plastic material he will use as it's most probably not nylon and definitely not cellidor, given the price estimate he gave ($2 per pair).I wouldn't be too worried about him being SAK experienced or not. The primary concern in additive manufacturing is whether or not their machine and the way they operate it can produce parts to tolerance and to the best mechanical properties of the material :tu:They look great! Love the orange. If any UK members are up for a group buy let me know.
Im actually organizing a group buy in my country as some said its worth the risk to try it out here. The guy with the 3D printer I contacted said he can even do wood. But he hasn't worked with SAKs before so I have some concerns.... :-\
much like a machinist, if you give them good data to produce a part and they do their job well on decent equipment, you'll get a very functional end product.
I also heard SwissBianco said in his video that while his scales are CNC milled, the SAK frames are not and rivets might need adjustments. So I'm concerned that the plastic chosen by the printer might be brittle (?). So now I'm curious to know what exact plastic material to ask. I'll discuss with the printer.
As for the carbon fiber, here are the samples he gave
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/2b864169ffbfc60d0995e4bba3da1f58.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/6a70d1d6861ba82ab10dea0e81e73d7e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/32261cbfeb5aedbb1f5f29cc40b747f9.jpg)
Post by: an0nemus on September 08, 2017, 06:08:53 PM
The most popular materials for hobbyist FDM printing are ABS plastic (think Lego blocks) and PLA (a biodegradable plastic). However, the range of potential materials is huge. If it's a SLS or UV curing material, you can get much finer results. But at such a low price, I can only guess at what sort of machine he's using. Most inexpensive machines and materials are done on FDM.I think I get what you mean. Im also concerned about the plastic material he will use as it's most probably not nylon and definitely not cellidor, given the price estimate he gave ($2 per pair).I wouldn't be too worried about him being SAK experienced or not. The primary concern in additive manufacturing is whether or not their machine and the way they operate it can produce parts to tolerance and to the best mechanical properties of the material :tu:They look great! Love the orange. If any UK members are up for a group buy let me know.
Im actually organizing a group buy in my country as some said its worth the risk to try it out here. The guy with the 3D printer I contacted said he can even do wood. But he hasn't worked with SAKs before so I have some concerns.... :-\
much like a machinist, if you give them good data to produce a part and they do their job well on decent equipment, you'll get a very functional end product.
I also heard SwissBianco said in his video that while his scales are CNC milled, the SAK frames are not and rivets might need adjustments. So I'm concerned that the plastic chosen by the printer might be brittle (?). So now I'm curious to know what exact plastic material to ask. I'll discuss with the printer.
As for the carbon fiber, here are the samples he gave
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/2b864169ffbfc60d0995e4bba3da1f58.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/6a70d1d6861ba82ab10dea0e81e73d7e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/32261cbfeb5aedbb1f5f29cc40b747f9.jpg)
Can you cull out from his album whether he's using FDM? What material is appropriate for SAK use? :think:
https://www.facebook.com/bt.metz/posts/1413879198681503?pnref=story
Post by: dkop1 on September 08, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
Post by: Poncho65 on September 08, 2017, 10:25:00 PM
Post by: an0nemus on September 09, 2017, 01:26:47 AM
It looks to me like FDM is the technology he's using to print, looks like a really good surface quality. So he's using a machine that gives a really nice surface quality. As for the material... no idea. PLA would be bad for an SAK, but ABS would work fine. Nylon, or even Polycarbonate may be suitable as well. They all look really well made, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a set if I was in the market. It couldn't hurt to write him and ask what the material is!
This is very helpful information and tips! I will definitely refer to this thread when I order from him. Right now our group is just waiting for one more willing "guinea pig" to jump into the group buy wagon.
Thank you so much! :tu:
Post by: an0nemus on September 09, 2017, 01:31:10 AM
Very cool thread 8) The carbon fiber looks awesome :o The plastic look pretty good to me as well though :like: I may download the specs and see if I can find a local printer :tu: If not I will still have the specs for later use :cheers: :like:
I'll be definitely posting pics and feedback here once I get the scales, Poncho. I have a naked 91mm Golfer just waiting for its new dress :D
Post by: SummitCOMike on September 09, 2017, 01:55:43 AM
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Post by: an0nemus on September 09, 2017, 02:02:42 AM
I need some 84mm. Any help?
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For now, Remade Knives only has 91mm 3D designs... :(
Post by: dkop1 on September 09, 2017, 03:25:26 AM
Post by: an0nemus on September 09, 2017, 03:27:21 AM
Any time! I geek out over this stuff. If I can get the models to clean up nicely for slicing I'd love to make a set in nylon at work. The B side handle just has too many shells and the software for our machine doesn't like it one bit.
Update: I showed your post to our supplier. Our supplier was supposed to use PLA but after reading this post, he agreed to use ABS instead at the same cost. Here's his business page:
https://www.facebook.com/largeformat3dprinter/
I'm now finalizing the group buy with members. If all agree, we can have the scales delivered next week. And the GAW here soon after :whistle:
Post by: dkop1 on September 09, 2017, 04:00:07 AM
That's awesome of him!Any time! I geek out over this stuff. If I can get the models to clean up nicely for slicing I'd love to make a set in nylon at work. The B side handle just has too many shells and the software for our machine doesn't like it one bit.
Update: I showed your post to our supplier. Our supplier was supposed to use PLA but after reading this post, he agreed to use ABS instead at the same cost. Here's his business page:
https://www.facebook.com/largeformat3dprinter/
I'm now finalizing the group buy with members. If all agree, we can have the scales delivered next week. And the GAW here soon after :whistle:
PLA is a fine material if it's properties suit your application. However, it is biodegradable and UV light damages it ( ibelieve.. further research required). it is more brittle than ABS and is prone to warping under high temperatures (think 115degrees Fahrenheit and up) so even a hot car on a summer day could do it. I find it better suited to desktop models, toys/gamepieces, and some prototyping work.
Post by: an0nemus on September 09, 2017, 04:05:05 AM
That's awesome of him!Any time! I geek out over this stuff. If I can get the models to clean up nicely for slicing I'd love to make a set in nylon at work. The B side handle just has too many shells and the software for our machine doesn't like it one bit.
Update: I showed your post to our supplier. Our supplier was supposed to use PLA but after reading this post, he agreed to use ABS instead at the same cost. Here's his business page:
https://www.facebook.com/largeformat3dprinter/
I'm now finalizing the group buy with members. If all agree, we can have the scales delivered next week. And the GAW here soon after :whistle:
PLA is a fine material if it's properties suit your application. However, it is biodegradable and UV light damages it ( ibelieve.. further research required). it is more brittle than ABS and is prone to warping under high temperatures (think 115degrees Fahrenheit and up) so even a hot car on a summer day could do it. I find it better suited to desktop models, toys/gamepieces, and some prototyping work.
awesome of you as well to share your knowledge here :tu:
I'm glad we're able to provide better material for us in the group venturing into the 3D printing world. One member is excited as he'll be able to finally make his 20-year battleworn SwissChamp look new again soon :salute:
Post by: an0nemus on September 11, 2017, 07:23:03 AM
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Post by: an0nemus on September 12, 2017, 08:37:47 AM
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Post by: dkop1 on September 14, 2017, 05:03:47 AM
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 05:40:48 AM
They look really well done to me, he must be using a fair quality machine and material stock. Not the best I've ever seen, BUT at the price point.... I think they are producing an incredibly high value article.Yes, at the price point, they're excellent value for money. For me, I'll install as is while others plan to wet sand theirs. Can't wait for the weekend to install these
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 09:41:24 AM
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Post by: magentus on September 14, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
There's something very pleasing about the texture on those scales. Looking forward to seeing them fitted.
:popcorn:
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 10:01:08 AM
:cheers:I'll need a vise or clamp. Will visit a local machine shop again very soon. This is the Carbon Fiber version. The blacks are ABS (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji16.png)
There's something very pleasing about the texture on those scales. Looking forward to seeing them fitted.
:popcorn:
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Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
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Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:07:15 PM
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Post by: magentus on September 14, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
They look thicker than the cellidor scales an0nemus. Are they? Have you tried them with the toothpick and tweezers yet?
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
Some group mates will polish and color their scales. I'll post here after they do.
Is anyone interested to have an ABS and Composite Fiber scales as GAW here?
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Post by: magentus on September 14, 2017, 12:14:17 PM
You had me at G!
:cheers:
Post by: lister on September 14, 2017, 12:22:42 PM
Yes, you read that correctly... :D
Maybe something along these lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia :think:
Otherwise they look nice. :cheers:
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:52:34 PM
:tu:Sorry for the poor pic quality. Grey Golfer next to Blue Tinker. The T&T needed to be forced in and won't extract smoothly. Sanding the channels might help
They look thicker than the cellidor scales an0nemus. Are they? Have you tried them with the toothpick and tweezers yet?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170914/b48a07a97d7798929288d0e9153afe85.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170914/b95cf35d7e22bd2c33edefd067850d74.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170914/d781de28cf8fe7c6042d2412e12dc81f.jpg)
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:54:21 PM
GAW!Okay then! Will launch it over the weekend
You had me at G!
:cheers:
Post by: magentus on September 14, 2017, 12:54:58 PM
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
My teeth start itching when I look at those scales. :ahhhLooks like a SAK owned by this dude
Yes, you read that correctly... :D
Maybe something along these lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia :think:
Otherwise they look nice. :cheers:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170914/82532712f38316aba508dfb0d8cf536f.jpg)
Post by: an0nemus on September 14, 2017, 01:00:18 PM
Lots of possibilities for modding them - thanks for showing us all - it's quite exciting! :tu:My group mates are excited as well! They see these as canvasses for mods
Post by: Mechanickal on September 14, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
:whistle:
001 - Mechanickal
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 14, 2017, 05:23:02 PM
Ok, so, let's kick this off...
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001 - Mechanickal
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Post by: Mechanickal on September 14, 2017, 05:41:59 PM
:shrug:Ok, so, let's kick this off...
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001 - Mechanickal
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Post by: El Corkscrew on September 14, 2017, 06:02:11 PM
:shrug:Ok, so, let's kick this off...
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001 - Mechanickal
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Are you showing us how high you count, bro?
Post by: Mechanickal on September 14, 2017, 06:31:21 PM
Nah, was adding myself to the GAW list and started it up both at once :tu::shrug:Ok, so, let's kick this off...
:whistle:
001 - Mechanickal
:think:
Are you showing us how high you count, bro?
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 14, 2017, 06:52:27 PM
Nah, was adding myself to the GAW list and started it up both at once :tu::shrug:Ok, so, let's kick this off...
:whistle:
001 - Mechanickal
:think:
Are you showing us how high you count, bro?
Ah! Painting a picture of generosity. :cheers: What are you giving away??
Post by: Mechanickal on September 14, 2017, 08:31:12 PM
Uhm...Nah, was adding myself to the GAW list and started it up both at once :tu::shrug:Ok, so, let's kick this off...
:whistle:
001 - Mechanickal
:think:
Are you showing us how high you count, bro?
Ah! Painting a picture of generosity. :cheers: What are you giving away??
An0nemus' scale set? :angel:
Post by: an0nemus on September 15, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
Will make a separate thread for the "Ugliest Scale GAW" tomorrow, Nick :2tu:
Post by: an0nemus on September 16, 2017, 03:07:21 PM
Its a relatively new material being used by drones and car parts. He likes the material because it doesn't warp. Its also being used by his friend Ryan in Ryan's business here: https://www.gearswitch.us/collections/e30-cup-holder
Just wanted to put this info here.
On a related note, the GAW has been launched here: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=73921.new;topicseen#new
Do join :salute:
Post by: an0nemus on September 17, 2017, 12:33:28 AM
My grey tools: TTi, Kershaw Zing, Golfer(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170916/697f8f427b10ae09a78b1f608ad7ddd7.jpg)
Post by: Syph007 on September 17, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Just an update folks. Some in Facebook and a friend who saw the scales said the grey ones don't look like carbon fiber. So I asked the guy who printed the scales and he said they're technically carbon fiber filaments, or a composite of resin and CF. "It's milled CF with plastic as the resin. It's similar to glass filled plastic" are his own words.
Its a relatively new material being used by drones and car parts. He likes the material because it doesn't warp. Its also being used by his friend Ryan in Ryan's business here: https://www.gearswitch.us/collections/e30-cup-holder
Just wanted to put this info here.
On a related note, the GAW has been launched here: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=73921.new;topicseen#new
Do join :salute:
Ya you wouldnt be able to print in CF since its layers of carbon cloth compressed and cured with some variant of polyester resins. I got into making CF bike frames for a bit about 15 years ago. Kind of fun you carve out a shape in high density foam then do lay ups of the cloth/resin.
Post by: an0nemus on September 17, 2017, 01:38:07 AM
Just an update folks. Some in Facebook and a friend who saw the scales said the grey ones don't look like carbon fiber. So I asked the guy who printed the scales and he said they're technically carbon fiber filaments, or a composite of resin and CF. "It's milled CF with plastic as the resin. It's similar to glass filled plastic" are his own words.
Its a relatively new material being used by drones and car parts. He likes the material because it doesn't warp. Its also being used by his friend Ryan in Ryan's business here: https://www.gearswitch.us...ollections/e30-cup-holder (https://www.gearswitch.us/collections/e30-cup-holder)
Just wanted to put this info here.
On a related note, the GAW has been launched here: https://forum.multitool.o...c=73921.new;topicseen#new (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=73921.new;topicseen#new)
Do join :salute:
Ya you wouldnt be able to print in CF since its layers of carbon cloth compressed and cured with some variant of polyester resins. I got into making CF bike frames for a bit about 15 years ago. Kind of fun you carve out a shape in high density foam then do lay ups of the cloth/resin.
What my friend (who's into building CF frames for airguns) essentially said as well who inspected the scales with his flashlight. He's also into CNC and lasers and we discussed Titanium scales. He mentioned aluminum T3 as alternative scales. What do you think of T3?
Post by: an0nemus on September 20, 2017, 06:58:20 AM
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Post by: Mechanickal on September 20, 2017, 07:29:19 AM
Post by: an0nemus on September 20, 2017, 08:08:49 AM
Looks good!It does
We're having problem with the ABS, though. It didn't feel smoothly with that particular Spartan. We're still looking for the cause.
Post by: Mechanickal on September 20, 2017, 11:50:19 AM
Sand it down a bit with a fine sanding paper?Looks good!It does
We're having problem with the ABS, though. It didn't feel smoothly with that particular Spartan. We're still looking for the cause.
Circular movement.
Post by: an0nemus on September 20, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Post by: Mechanickal on September 21, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
I mean it didn't fit in smoothly. One of the scale hole is allegedly 1mm off. Might be ABS shrinkage :think:Dremel :whistle:
Post by: an0nemus on September 24, 2017, 08:28:00 AM
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Post by: Mechanickal on September 24, 2017, 08:51:04 AM
My friend just installed his CF filament scales on his Spartan. He wet-sanded using 800 then 600 grits but the material didn't budge. LOL.Tough as nails!
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Means you can use it as a hammer now :woohoo:
Post by: an0nemus on September 24, 2017, 08:53:39 AM
My friend just installed his CF filament scales on his Spartan. He wet-sanded using 800 then 600 grits but the material didn't budge. LOL.Tough as nails!
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Means you can use it as a hammer now :woohoo:
Agree! :tu: :rofl:
Post by: an0nemus on October 01, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
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Post by: dkop1 on October 11, 2017, 03:21:26 AM
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on October 11, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
Post by: an0nemus on October 11, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
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Post by: Mechanickal on October 11, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousSmooth! :tu:
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Post by: Syph007 on October 11, 2017, 10:41:14 PM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrous
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That looks melted. A Dremel is much too high rpm to use with plastics like that. I'd try hand sansing with 400 then 800 grit wet paper to smooth out the surface.
Post by: an0nemus on October 11, 2017, 11:58:54 PM
A friend tried down to 600 but nothing happened. I'll recommend 400.I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrous
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That looks melted. A Dremel is much too high rpm to use with plastics like that. I'd try hand sansing with 400 then 800 grit wet paper to smooth out the surface.
For me personally, I like mine unsanded as it has rough appeal
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Post by: bba952 on October 29, 2017, 09:16:48 PM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
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Post by: Dutch_Tooler on October 30, 2017, 11:01:05 AM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/d0a9db7f5c7e7391472de452afa341da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/5b614a35fc7eb6a7283bb184e362eb7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/e19eb0f05db027cdfc1a6eeaa8e6b008.jpg)
Feedback to a related question by me in a 3D printing forum suggests that CF holding filament should be printed with at the smallest a 0.5, or better 0.6, mm nozzle...
Post by: an0nemus on October 31, 2017, 07:31:42 PM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/d0a9db7f5c7e7391472de452afa341da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/5b614a35fc7eb6a7283bb184e362eb7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/e19eb0f05db027cdfc1a6eeaa8e6b008.jpg)
He did say it CF were added in the material. So it might be as you described. Two sets were printed, one with ABS and one with CF filament. Todate, no one has tried putting on the ABS yet as all of us are fascinated by the "CF" scales :D
Thank you again for releasing the 3D data to the public, Brandon! It was so generous of you :cheers:
Post by: Mechanickal on October 31, 2017, 07:32:46 PM
I'll pm you my adres for those ABS ones :whistle:I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/d0a9db7f5c7e7391472de452afa341da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/5b614a35fc7eb6a7283bb184e362eb7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/e19eb0f05db027cdfc1a6eeaa8e6b008.jpg)
He did say it CF were added in the material. So it might be as you described. Two sets were printed, one with ABS and one with CF filament. Todate, no one has tried putting on the ABS yet as all of us are fascinated by the "CF" scales :D
Thank you again for releasing the 3D data to the public, Brandon! It was so generous of you :cheers:
Post by: an0nemus on October 31, 2017, 07:33:33 PM
I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/d0a9db7f5c7e7391472de452afa341da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/5b614a35fc7eb6a7283bb184e362eb7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/e19eb0f05db027cdfc1a6eeaa8e6b008.jpg)
Feedback to a related question by me in a 3D printing forum suggests that CF holding filament should be printed with at the smallest a 0.5, or better 0.6, mm nozzle...
Admittedly, the first batch were of better quality than the 2nd batch. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the nozzle used. But I'll share with him your feedback, DT. Helpful, as usual. Thanks! :cheers:
Post by: an0nemus on October 31, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
I'll pm you my adres for those ABS ones :whistle:I get conflicting opinions also about the CF nature of these scales. Whatever it is, it's tough. Even a group mate's effort to use dremel and smoothen it was disastrousI might be wrong but it looks like the material he used to print the scales is a mix of carbon fiber and PLA ( a type of biodegradable plastic) which does not take heat well. i would recommend next time getting them printed in ABS or nylon, and to make sure that the person printing the scales uses a smaller print nozzle
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/d0a9db7f5c7e7391472de452afa341da.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/5b614a35fc7eb6a7283bb184e362eb7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171011/e19eb0f05db027cdfc1a6eeaa8e6b008.jpg)
He did say it CF were added in the material. So it might be as you described. Two sets were printed, one with ABS and one with CF filament. Todate, no one has tried putting on the ABS yet as all of us are fascinated by the "CF" scales :D
Thank you again for releasing the 3D data to the public, Brandon! It was so generous of you :cheers:
Okay, Nick! :tu:
Post by: Mechanickal on October 31, 2017, 07:50:22 PM
Thanks buddy!
Now I do feel like a cheap smurf again though :bnghd:
Way to generous people here...
Post by: an0nemus on October 31, 2017, 07:53:31 PM
So seems like Jessan is actualy going to send them my way :facepalm:
Thanks buddy!
Now I do feel like a cheap smurf again though :bnghd:
Way to generous people here...
Just passing forward the good karma in MTO, Nick :cheers: :tu:
Post by: El Corkscrew on October 31, 2017, 08:03:55 PM
So seems like Jessan is actualy going to send them my way :facepalm::tu: 8)
Thanks buddy!
Now I do feel like a cheap smurf again though :bnghd:
Way to generous people here...
Post by: dkop1 on December 01, 2017, 05:51:47 PM
Post by: zrxoa1 on December 02, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
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Post by: an0nemus on December 02, 2017, 10:07:30 AM
Made these up with an SLS machine in Nylon 12. Will dye them later on
Cant wait to see them dyed! :tu:
Post by: an0nemus on December 02, 2017, 10:08:28 AM
Grabbed a set from them on Etsy. Put on my Tinker that had been blacked out by syph007, for the previous owner...
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Wow. Simply WOW. How about we call it Victorinox Stealth? :like:
Post by: Don Pablo on December 02, 2017, 10:18:44 AM
So black. 8) :like:Grabbed a set from them on Etsy. Put on my Tinker that had been blacked out by syph007, for the previous owner...
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Wow. Simply WOW. How about we call it Victorinox Stealth? :like:
Post by: VoetSak on December 03, 2017, 05:24:58 AM
Looks best in 2 tone imho.
Post by: an0nemus on December 03, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
Had a go at this tonight. Not quite there yet but heading in the right direction.
Looks best in 2 tone imho.
That two-tone does look interesting...and unique :tu:
Post by: Mechanickal on December 03, 2017, 11:27:57 AM
Almost forgot. Do I have a set of these coming my way?? :pok:Had a go at this tonight. Not quite there yet but heading in the right direction.
Looks best in 2 tone imho.
That two-tone does look interesting...and unique :tu:
Post by: an0nemus on December 03, 2017, 11:54:05 AM
I'll trace where they are right now, MechanickalAlmost forgot. Do I have a set of these coming my way?? :pok:Had a go at this tonight. Not quite there yet but heading in the right direction.
Looks best in 2 tone imho.
That two-tone does look interesting...and unique :tu:
Post by: an0nemus on December 11, 2017, 09:17:58 AM
Hi, Nick! PM sent. Bad and good newsI'll trace where they are right now, MechanickalAlmost forgot. Do I have a set of these coming my way?? :pok:Had a go at this tonight. Not quite there yet but heading in the right direction.
Looks best in 2 tone imho.
That two-tone does look interesting...and unique :tu:
Post by: hiraethus on December 11, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
Grabbed a set from them on Etsy. Put on my Tinker that had been blacked out by syph007, for the previous owner...
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Looks great. :cheers:
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Post by: zrxoa1 on December 11, 2017, 10:06:02 AM
Grabbed a set from them on Etsy. Put on my Tinker that had been blacked out by syph007, for the previous owner...
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Looks great. :cheers:
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Post by: hiraethus on December 11, 2017, 11:19:15 AM
Post by: schiesz on February 26, 2018, 05:09:39 PM
Anyone else have trouble with this?