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Title: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Oxford_Guy on January 11, 2017, 08:46:55 AM
Was reading about an unusual model the other day, the Victorinox Engineer, the only (unmodded) 91mm with an inline fine driver - has anyone here actually ever come across one of these?


http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+Engineer


http://archerwinsak.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/collection-victorinox-engineer-91mm.html


(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3470)
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: jazzbass on January 11, 2017, 08:59:19 AM
Well, that's my picture of my knife so... yes   ;)

BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on January 11, 2017, 09:09:29 AM
Well, that's my picture of my knife so... yes   ;)

BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.

Thanks for the info  :salute:
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Oxford_Guy on January 11, 2017, 07:11:09 PM
Well, that's my picture of my knife so... yes   ;)

BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.

Thanks, they seem pretty rare, though!

I'm currently trying to track down a 93mm Technician in good condition...
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Poncho65 on January 11, 2017, 10:34:03 PM
Well, that's my picture of my knife so... yes   ;)

BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.

Thanks for the info  :salute:

+1 it is always good to see Jazzbass here cause he is full of SAK info :tu: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: LeaF on January 11, 2017, 10:41:49 PM
BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.
Hi, jazzbass!


I never heard about Handwerkermesser. Could you please post photo and short description (if possible)?
Regarding regular models (Hiker, Climber, Super Tinker) - if I understood correctly, it was a specific run of these models with replacement  one tool (small blade for instance) with technician screwdriver. Am I right?
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: FolderBeholder on January 11, 2017, 10:51:28 PM
I was looking for a Campingmesser, which led me to find this photo (which shows the Handwerkermesser).  It is on "I Love SAKs" website...possibly in the SAKWiki too, I'm unsure though.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/340/31413186244_b3b6547d09_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PRSMRo)
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: LeaF on January 11, 2017, 10:56:00 PM
oops. so it a Handyman 7236maU?
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: FolderBeholder on January 11, 2017, 10:59:29 PM
oops. so it a Handyman 7236maU?
Hopefully jazzbass will chime in.  I just find photos, I don't know anything about them.  :D
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: LeaF on January 11, 2017, 11:13:05 PM
oops. so it a Handyman 7236maU?
Hopefully jazzbass will chime in.  I just find photos, I don't know anything about them.  :D
https://leaf-vics.com/2016/08/462-handyman-7236mau.html
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: JamesJ on January 11, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
Well, that's my picture of my knife so... yes   ;)

BTW there are several 91mm knives with the inline fine driver - regular models were the Motorist, the Cadillac, and the Handwerkermesser. There are also several special runs made by Victorinox for companies, including Climber and Super Tinker variants for Fuchs Helicopter and a Hiker variant for Pavag Nebikon.

Thanks for the info  :salute:

+1 it is always good to see Jazzbass here cause he is full of SAK info :tu: :like: :like:

I love seeing precise facts and info like that.
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: jazzbass on January 11, 2017, 11:33:15 PM
I never heard about Handwerkermesser. Could you please post photo and short description (if possible)?

oops. so it a Handyman 7236maU?

Correct. I like to use the German "Handwerkermesser" for the 7236maU instead of the English "Handyman" due to conflict with the 1.3793 Handyman and the 1.3773 Handyman. Two "Handyman" models is already annoying, so I decided to use the name from the pamphlet that FolderBeholder posted and call the 7236maU the "Handwerkermesser".

(http://i.imgur.com/AmXuDzX.jpg)

Regarding regular models (Hiker, Climber, Super Tinker) - if I understood correctly, it was a specific run of these models with replacement  one tool (small blade for instance) with technician screwdriver. Am I right?

Correct. I don't have a good pic of the Pavag Hiker, but think Motorist with a woodsaw instead of a metal file. It even has the St Christopher inlay on the rear scale. Here are the Fuchs Climber and Super Tinker variants:

(http://i.imgur.com/sIPsrQu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9UC4mcK.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Poncho65 on January 12, 2017, 03:31:38 AM
Very cool thread 8) already a bunch of info that I had no idea about :dd: :like: :like:
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: AimlessWanderer on January 12, 2017, 03:52:56 AM
I do like the technician screwdriver, and wish it was available on more models.

I went to visit a friend a couple of years ago, and he was having some trouble with a light fitting. I had a Swiss knife in my pocket (prob 85mm or 91mm) and some form of pliers tool. Not one of the drivers on either tool was capable of dealing with the electrical connections. That technician blade would have been perfect. My friend had some regular drivers, but they were also too wide or too narrow. Thankfully I had a Manager on my car keys, and that saved the day.
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: hiraethus on January 12, 2017, 06:53:40 AM
I'd love to get my hands on a few but I don't suppose we'll see the inline fine flat driver on a production knife again, now that the backside flat driver comes on some knives with saws.
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: AndyTiedye on January 12, 2017, 07:51:05 AM

The original (pre-bitdriver) version of the Wenger Ranger Alinghi has a long narrow screwdriver in place of a can opener.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170112/a83d9dd99c6b2fd245d18ab1ce2e380e.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: LeaF on January 12, 2017, 11:36:38 AM
Correct. I like to use the German "Handwerkermesser" for the 7236maU instead of the English "Handyman" due to conflict with the 1.3793 Handyman and the 1.3773 Handyman. Two "Handyman" models is already annoying, so I decided to use the name from the pamphlet that FolderBeholder posted and call the 7236maU the "Handwerkermesser".


Thanks for clarification! One more question - 1.3793 Handyman it's an older version of Handyman without pliers, but with fish-scaler?
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Marc_in_NS on January 12, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
I really dig this old series containing the technician's driver. Especially the engineer model.

 :tu:
Title: Re: Victorinox Engineer - has anyone ever seen one of these?
Post by: Oxford_Guy on January 12, 2017, 06:10:59 PM
One of my ideal fantasy SAKs would be a Technician X - i.e.  a Technician with scissors... or possibly even better, replacing the awl with the fine driver (seems to be possible for the Engineer SAK), so you can retain the can opener (as this can be handy as a 2D Phillips driver)