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Outdoor Section => The Outdoor and Survival Forum => Topic started by: Grant Lamontagne on September 07, 2016, 03:35:05 PM
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Given my mobility issues and desire to keep doing things I have been looking into these devices that used to be called "walking sticks" so that I wouldn't have to bring my cane on excursions. I really smurfing hate using a cane, but I recognize that it is necessary at times.
So, I started looking up walking sticks and found that only canes appear to be referred to as walking sticks, and the thinks I was looking for are now called "trekking poles" and they are high tech, with shock absorption systems, multiple tips for various terrains, and often have extra stuff like flashlights, selfie sticks and compasses installed into them, either in the rubberized cork handles or aluminum shafts.... ::)
Anyone have any suggestions on what I should look for? I was looking for one, but apparently I'm only cool if I use them as a pair nowadays.
Def
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What about foraging for a nice hardwood staff? You can customize it with leather wrap, burn designs, or leave natural.
I use a single trekking pole mostly for descents. Its an REI Hiker antishock which has internal springs to absorb shock. It can be turned off when ascending which is nice.
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I dont have any leg problems, so I just cut my self a wooden staff in the woods if the terrain in treacherous.
In my experience a good staff a little longer than your self can be very supportive. It gives you a long reach when going down hill or need to test the terrain in front of you. Its also very comfortable to put the weight off one leg while leaning on it, holding it with both hands.
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I hear ya about the cane boss. :( I've accepted using mine when needed, and it's become a regular part of me. :)
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I'm sold on the concept after the Fish River hike........two instead of one.....
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I would prefer something more traditional, like the farmer's "fourka" or the shepherd's "glitsa". I will buy one next time (sold everywhere in mountain towns and villages here) and carve my love's name on it (too) with my Opi.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C1UElpnTzH0/Uwe6WItESJI/AAAAAAAAKqY/HPbaa0FfbMk/s1600/2.JPG)
But a hi tech aluminium or carbon stick would be lighter for you.
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I picked up a nice handmade hardwood staff about 4 years ago. It stands about chest height on me with an OLD brass doorknob fastened to the top and finished with a piece of 3/4" copper pipe for a foot. Some custom maker in Montana sells them at the Huckleberry festival every year. I've found it more than adequate on all my hikes, but then again I don't have any mobility issues so ymmv.
I've noticed that Trekking pole seems to be the new buzz term for these things, all mass produced and overpriced. Can't say I didn't want to get one, but the $20 price tag of my handmade staff was irresistible.
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I came across something similar to this a while ago.
Anyway, if you want a you-beaut alloy shock absorber pole, I'm sure there are many places (online and shopfront) that will sell them to you.
Personally I use a timber walking stick - I've made a few from decent bits of wood, but you can also find them for sale here and there by local crafters- generally not well advertised or online.
I just spent 20 minutes trying to find the place I bought my last one online (not that it would have helped you) and I couldn't - I'm guessing the cost of shipping a big stick anywhere far outweighs the value of most sticks....
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I have 4 of the cold steel walking sticks, the dragon one is my favourite. They are polypropylene and really tough
https://www.coldsteel.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Walking+stick
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This may look cool, for Grant
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/JXoAAOSwyLlXoGP3/$_35.JPG)
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This may look cool, for Grant
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I've actually got one of those. A basket full of wet washing is to heavy for me to carry to hang out on the line so one of those does the carrying for me.
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This may look cool, for Grant
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/JXoAAOSwyLlXoGP3/$_35.JPG)
Megan already told me I'm not allowed to get one of those. Too bad as I can really see the utility in it!
Just imagine how much cool stuff you could EDC!
Def
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I have a pair but never used them. Might take them with me on the next trip though just to slam around in front of me on rocks and such as I encountered a total of 6 very poisonous snakes on my last two trips, 5 babies and a 1 meter long one. :ahhh
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I have poles with all of the various attachments for my snowshoes- I might give one of those a try and see how well it holds up. If it seems like it might be useful I may invest in a cheapo walking stick. I am hoping to get out for a bit of a hike this weekend- it won't be a "hike" by anyone else's standards, but for someone with more screws in his anatomy than in many compact cars it should be enough of a challenge!
Def
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I got myself a wooden stick made from slow growing spruce. When I cut it down it was around 2 meters and had a diameter of around 5 cm but I was able to count over 50 years worth of rings.
The spruce is a fairly light wood but when it had grown this slow it also becomes very strong and it has been used for log driving on rivers where your life might very well depend on it holding.
So far I've only attached a stainless ring foot to it but I'm considering a leather handgrip and some whittling on it.
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Traditionals are always classier.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/2d/e3/342de3c91f5cf5c281a2eca5cb4e13c8.jpg)
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(http://www.thelandofshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/GandalfStaff1.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/9c/92/5f9c92a26f31c245c916b65db74ec3da.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-26G8E07OpAA/T_toD9J7k2I/AAAAAAAAAKA/DQjWFEBiJMM/s1600/Dr-Watson-sherlock-holmes-2009-film-9773031-1280-1024.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4151/5084387279_595fb2a4bb.jpg)
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I used one of the poles that came with my snowshoes on a hike today and I have to say I am an instant convert to the wonderful world of hiking poles. I wish I'd brought both.
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Def
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Being a lifelong hiker and never having used poles I always regarded them as a bit fuddy duddy.
However in the UK poles started getting very popular I'd say about 20++ years ago and I fell in with the trend.
I usually have them with me now, especially on long (all day) hikes
They are very very good asset for anybody going on a walk - even if you are young and completely able bodied.
I read somewhere that they take 30% strain off your knees and ankles and are good for your back too.
And you should always take two - to even up your balance and pressure on both sides.
Walking in the Alps you will rarely see anyone without poles.
I have not looked into this for ages - But Leki poles were definitely the best at the time - But not cheap
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I think they're known at trekking poles due to their similarly to ski poles. I've been using them for a few years now and they've been a boon to my poor knees, especially on downhills. On a one day hike with a light pack I manage ok but for multi day trips with a heavier pack I simply wouldn't leave home without them. Mine were the cheapest I could find at the time that had four sections for ease of transport when heading over to France.
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Oh and learn to use the wrist loops properly, they take a lot of the strain of gripping the poles all day.
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I made a couple of walking sticks/poles/staffs on my trip to NZ earlier this year.
Had to leave them both behind because Quarantine Services would have a Blue Fit if I tried to bring them back into Australia.
The Wizard's staff I left stuck in the ground at a touristy destination for a laugh, but the walking pole, which was about shoulder height, I had written the names of all the places we went and left it in the common room at the last motor camp we stayed in with a note asking for someone to keep it travelling and then pass it on again when they were finished with it.
I really hope this has happened and now I wish I had started a Facebook page for it so people could post pictures if its journey.
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Love the wizard's staff. Very appropriate for NZ as well. :D
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I see Trekking Poles as being used as a pair in your normal walking action. (I have also heard that Leki is a good brand)
I think of Walking Sticks as being shorter, often with a curved top (cane).
I used to have poles but they broke. I only used to use one at a time, mainly for balance in tricky areas or to take some weight off my knees going downhill.
I now use a stick (staff?) I cut from a dead branch, which is very thin, light and strong.
(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/syncop8r/Tableland%20Circuit%201/20160105_172319.jpg) (http://s529.photobucket.com/user/syncop8r/media/Tableland%20Circuit%201/20160105_172319.jpg.html)
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One factor in the name change might be the target audience. When they were at their most popular here they tried to sell them for their ability to train upper body while you walk, a dubious claim since there's not much work involved in their use during a normal walk in the park.
The users ended up being the elderly who realised that it helped to use them while walking but they were rarely willing to pay extra for features or materials. And they made anyone under 65 using them look ridiculous. After the rebranding it looks like they're cool again.
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This is a book about treking Poles:
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We had adverse weather with floods a couple of days ago in Peloponesse, 4 people dead and 1 missing. I saw the SAR teams using trekking poles for moving on difficult terrain. They use the poles to move flora or items on the ground while searching. They also provide an extension for grasp. And emergency defense against snakes, scorpiins or angry stray dogs and wild animals. Longer poles serve better for those tasks.
I have one in the garage, a medium weatherd pole I found in the snow during a winter excursion. Somebody dropped it or lost it. Now I became curious and I might put it in the car (it's fixed, not telescopic) anf if I find it useful I'll buy a good one later.
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As I found out today, if you see cobwebs ahead, hold out your walking stick pole WHATEVER in front of you with about a foot above your hand.
Stops them getting in your face.
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My father was a firm believer in using a walking stick. He fashioned his own from diamond willow. I was abke to hang into his stash after he passed on. Nice momentos that I think I'm getting closer and closer to needing myself. :)
I've always though the genuine Irish Blackthorn ones looked pretty cool. And each one is unique. I think those were the inspiration behind the Cold Steel versions IIRC.
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This is a book about treking Poles:
I see what you did there. :D
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:think: Ah I do too now ;) Thanks Gareth :tu:
It's all in the capitals
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This is a book about treking Poles:
:rofl:
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Man, you guys are making me want to go buy some trekking poles now...
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I may need a walking stick soon, due to my bad knees...
I've been looking at the Cold Steel ones for that, you know, for double duty :)
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Before I got my trekking pole I would always find a suitable tree branch to aid in my hikes. The collapsable ones shrink down nicely and can be easily attached to a pack ( bungee cords ).
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I had been looking into these collapsible high-tech sticks for some time, but then a simple Manuka-Stick accompanied me on some nice hikes in NZ.
When I had to return home I simply couldn't leave it behind, so I checked in the bulky luggage and carried it through Bangkok for a week. Back home I noticed that the lower, thinner part of the stick had bent slightly... too slightly for my taste. Since I love hikes with partial climbing, I made a decision, cut away the lower part, replaced it with a piece of hazelnut from home, gave it a good screw connection from this guy http://www.gramlich-jagdstoecke.de/ and went into my smithy to forge an apting spike. About my height, on the whole a bit shorter and more slender than a Bavarian Mountain-Stick should be, but nice for me.
Spent a lot of time with the light little fellow, and even the bumblebees like it (picture from this tour http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37820.msg1343305.html#att284976.
Tomcat
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... stick-loving bumblebee mentioned above...
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When we were planning our vacation to Austria in 2014, I told a colleague of mine about the "knee problem" my wife has, and he told me to get walking sticks, so I did some research and we bought a piar of Leki Ultra Speedlock Corklite trekking poles. And right after our vacation I went back to the store and got myself a second pair, since my wife had to share her trekking poles with my two boys the entire vacation. If you're having some kind of physical problem, be it ankle, knee, back pain, a pair of trekking poles can really make a difference.
We got the ones with the speedlock adjustment, on the other ones you have to turn the lock loose, change the length of the pole and tighten them by turning the lock again, but the speedlock uses the same technique as seen on, for example, the wheels of a mountainbike. And you'd be surprised how often you have to change the length of the poles, ascending, descending, walking parallel on a slope (I hope this makes sense ... :think:).
Here are some random pics taken during our trip to Switzerland (the year after we went to Austria):
My oldest son descending from Mount Titlis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titlis):
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/Rikske77/Switzerland%202015/088_zpskfbo4aqm.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/Rikske77/media/Switzerland%202015/088_zpskfbo4aqm.jpg.html)
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/Rikske77/Switzerland%202015/023_zpsdwf71ij3.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/Rikske77/media/Switzerland%202015/023_zpsdwf71ij3.jpg.html)
My youngest son during the same descent:
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/Rikske77/Switzerland%202015/034_zpsmuhk8mar.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/Rikske77/media/Switzerland%202015/034_zpsmuhk8mar.jpg.html)
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My old ones were the screw type. I'm not a fan.
(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/syncop8r/Bealey%20Spur/20150206_133624.jpg) (http://s529.photobucket.com/user/syncop8r/media/Bealey%20Spur/20150206_133624.jpg.html)
(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/syncop8r/Cass-Lagoon%2004-2015/Cass-Lagoon%20April%202015%20127.jpg) (http://s529.photobucket.com/user/syncop8r/media/Cass-Lagoon%2004-2015/Cass-Lagoon%20April%202015%20127.jpg.html)
One broke when I put too much weight on it. That's cheap for ya:
(http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/syncop8r/Cass-Lagoon%2004-2015/Cass-Lagoon%20April%202015%20148.jpg) (http://s529.photobucket.com/user/syncop8r/media/Cass-Lagoon%2004-2015/Cass-Lagoon%20April%202015%20148.jpg.html)
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I had been looking into these collapsible high-tech sticks for some time, but then a simple Manuka-Stick accompanied me on some nice hikes in NZ.
When I had to return home I simply couldn't leave it behind, so I checked in the bulky luggage and carried it through Bangkok for a week. Back home I noticed that the lower, thinner part of the stick had bent slightly... too slightly for my taste. Since I love hikes with partial climbing, I made a decision, cut away the lower part, replaced it with a piece of hazelnut from home, gave it a good screw connection from this guy http://www.gramlich-jagdstoecke.de/ and went into my smithy to forge an apting spike. About my height, on the whole a bit shorter and more slender than a Bavarian Mountain-Stick should be, but nice for me.
Spent a lot of time with the light little fellow, and even the bumblebees like it (picture from this tour http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37820.msg1343305.html#att284976.
Tomcat
That looks fantastic Tomcat. :salute:
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I refuse to carry one of those infernal aluminum things. I'll carry a staff I made for hiking, and a shorter walking stick for urban use. Wood is natural! The staff is hornbeam, and the walking stick is Irish blackthorn with an oil finish.
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5232/14258223535_484036cd4a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nHX87g)
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Trekking poles are great! Years ago, I bought myself one with a cork handle, and then a couple of years later, I was bought a matched pair as a Christmas or birthday gift. If you don't need to walk with a stick normally, they are superb for occasional usage.
It's ultra convenient to be able to reduce the size and fasten to your pack when you're on flatter areas, extend to correct height when you need a little extra support/stability, and extend beyond correct height for traversing or descents. I have the added benefit that my hiking pole serves as a tent pole in my ultralight tent.
I understand why people say use a pair, but I would say that's only relevant for a certain type of hiking. If you have big miles to cover with minimal stops, and you're the head down and get stuck in type of hiker, then I would agree. If you take a more relaxed approach to the hike, and don't need to power through the miles, one is perfectly fine. I've done both types of hike, and selected my hiking sticks accordingly.
Aside from this, I have a Fulton walking umbrella, and two "canes", only one of which is the right height - the other was intentionally too short, and is a prop from my acting days. The walking umbrella is great, if you don't actually need a walking stick - because if you do, and you use it as an umbrella, voila - no more walking stick! However, I think I need to investigate this option futher..... http://www.eden-mobility.co.uk/umbrella-walking-stick ..... as it looks like you have the benefit of both.
At the moment though, my stick use is mainly just a heavy duty traditional crooked handle cane due to medical reasons. However, I don't see me using that across boggy fields, fording streams, or on scree descents ;) If my health allows me to start enjoying the prettier routes again, I may just leave this at home and take my cork handled trekking pole again.
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Well I have decided that since these things seem to be available pretty much everywhere that I am just going to use the ones that came with my snowshoes for now, and if I use them enough to wear them out then that will be enough justification to buy more. There doesn't seem to be any difference whatsoever between the ones I have already and the ones I was looking at, and I see no reason to buy something else that I may or may not use that much when I already have some.
Def
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............gave it a good screw connection from this guy http://www.gramlich-jagdstoecke.de/ and went into my smithy to forge an apting spike......................
And we have a winning idea :salute:
I have a machinist friend that could make the connector(s), that would solve just about all my "trekking pole" issues. 8)
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After all that spiel I gave earlier, I now have another walking stick. I've been over to my parent's this afternoon, and my mother had a few spares that haven't been shortened for her yet. She told me to help myself, and I picked out what looks to me like an ash stick with maple(?) Derby handle, which was already the perfect height for me. Free stuff is always good :D I'll try to get a pic or two tomorrow
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I always liked the looks of the Derby style handles. Which of the Fulton umbrellas do you rate the most? IIRC you had quite the collection at one time and I've had my eye on the Huntsman.
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I always liked the looks of the Derby style handles. Which of the Fulton umbrellas do you rate the most? IIRC you had quite the collection at one time and I've had my eye on the Huntsman.
The Huntsman is the one I have. I believe you had a good look at that one at one of the meets. The handle retaining pin came loose after a while, but a blob of superglue sorted that, and I've had no problems since. I had one of the smaller open and close umbrellas, but it can be quite temperamental, and close of it's own accord. Not helpful ::) The third one I got is another good one, the Magnum. It opens about as large as the Huntsman, and is a good strong folding brolly. A good choice for the boot of the car or maybe a large bag - it's certainly not a compact brolly. I think the Magnum and Huntsman are both excellent value for money, and I'm surprised how affordable they are considering the UK manufacture.
Today has been the first time I've tried a Derby handle. Certainly an improvement when wearing gloves which might slip on a traditional crook handle. However..... when walking back from my parents this evening (7.5 miles) the Trad showed it's strength over the Derby. Both work well on standard terrain, and as mentioned, the Derby is better with certain gloves. The Trad excels on hills though, and rotating your grip slightly on the Trad reorientates the stick to assist in "pushing" up the hill, or bracing you in the decline. The Derby doesn't have this, with the natural orientation being more perpendicular, and compensating with how you present the stick to the ground can be more uncomfortable, and a bigger neck strain (a big downside for me). I think I'll be sticking to the trad for the longer walks, and maybe using the Derby when I don't expect undulating terrain
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Here's pics of the freebie I got yesterday, alongside the one I already had. My mum picked I up from a second hand shop at a seaside town. It's had a few knocks and scrapes, and will need a new ferrule soon, but it does the job.
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Nice looking stick.
We went to the museum today and I wish I'd had either of them with me! :ahhh
Def
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Yup, like the look of that Al. :tu:
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Cheers fellers :salute:
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Nice pics guys, I'm probably going to need a cane or a walking stick sometime, since I got my knees smurfed up while moving to my current apartment :(
I have good days and then I have really bad days when I basicly get my knees buckle under me, or the semi ok days when they are so stiff I feel like walking on stilts.
So MTO friends, gimme some advice, which kind of stick would be good for me?
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1) If you need it for support, ensure it's up to the job. Some dress canes for example, say they are for light support or words to that effect - in other words they are an accessory for show, rather than a working item.
2) Make sure it's the right height - ideally around your wrist or fractionally higher when stood upright. Some sources say to the top of your hipbone, which is what my mother has been doing, and which has caused significant shoulder problems for her. Note: You may need to cut it to the right length - if so, remember to factor in the ferrule thickness. If using hiking poles or a wizard staff type stick, the grip height should be around your elbow, so your forearms are roughly horizontal.
3) If possible, try before you buy. See if it flexes if you lean on it, or if it feels heavy enough to be tiring after a while.
4) Fewer pieces in the construction, means there's less joints to fail on you.
5) As mentioned above, I find a Derby handle to be better on fairly level ground, or wearing gloves that don't have much traction. I find a crook handle to be more versatile/comfortable on hills. Trekking poles are the obvious choice when off paved areas, but even with the little add-on ferrules you can get, can get annoying very quickly on paving and tarmac in my experience (jarring the elbow, noisy, and less traction than a cane type).
6) Pick one that just feels right. We're back to try before you buy. A walking stick should fit your hand, just like shoes should fit your feet. If it doesn't feel right when you lean on it and walk with it, put it back.
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I think I need to get one, with my bad back and all the walking I do, I'll tell you the one that's had my attn, I like the wood ones and this ones freaking cool, unbreakable, I'd cut it to size, wrap som paracord around it, put a rubber end on, and I think it would make an awesome go everywhere stick!
JR
http://www.budk.com/6-Foot-Wax-Wood-Self-Defense-Staff-7745
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The Derby and Crook handled sticks are good for hanging over your arm, or from a tree branch or whatever, when you need two hands. I think a staff would be less convenient for everyday use.
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Nice pics guys, I'm probably going to need a cane or a walking stick sometime, since I got my knees smurfed up while moving to my current apartment :(
I have good days and then I have really bad days when I basicly get my knees buckle under me, or the semi ok days when they are so stiff I feel like walking on stilts.
So MTO friends, gimme some advice, which kind of stick would be good for me?
Long story cut short-
Couple of years ago got out of my car at work; icy day, slipped while I got out, full weight sideways on left knee, heard rip/croak noise, short blackout, knee wouldn't take any weight. We were a very small crew back then, so I hobbled with gritted teeth for the next 10 hours. Thank god, Friday, so I rested for the next two days. Monday was ok, tried to save my knee as much as possible, hobbled on for the next three months (a.m. was always fine, p.m. lousy) since several colleagues were permanently ill. Got to the doctor quite late, some damage to sinnews and cartilage, one muscle paralyzed. Took about two years to be quite ok, but my knee just isn't like it was. So- if you haven't done so already-
GO AND SEE A GOOD DOCTOR!
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I have to agree with the above. A checkup from a legitimate doctor beats all the medical advice that can be offered by plier people on the internet, including some of the members we have here that are MD's, not because they aren't good at what they do, but because they aren't actually able to look and run tests in person. Always seek proper medical advice in cases of injury like this. Many problems you just assume will go away (or may seem to have gone away shortly after) can and will come back to haunt you later in life. Take it from a guy who lives with pain in broken ankles, broken knee, lopsided hips, carpal tunnel and a hyper-extended elbow every day.
That having been said, also talk to a proper person who has been trained in orthopaedics to help you properly size a cane for you. I did some reading online prior to getting mine, tested it in the store, sized it myself (the instruction card with the cane agreed with what I'd read online and I sized it and tried it in the store- I have an old person adjustable model :P) only to have the woman behind the counter tell me it needed to be several inches shorter. I did what she said, figuring she worked there and did this for a living, then when I saw the doctor a few days later he told me it was several inches too short and moved it back to where I'd had it originally. As I said, talk to someone who knows what they are talking about.
As for a staff, I can see it as a walking stick for hiking in the woods, but I don't think it is something I would want to count on for day to day support everywhere I go. There is a reason the crook top on a cane is there.
Def
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Grant, how was your cane sized? Mine are cut to 35", which puts them just above the wrist. Originally the one I bought was slightly longer (36" + ferrule) and I kept catching the floor with it on the forward swing, and it put a greater strain on my neck if I had to lean on it
I've just put one of my mother's adjustable's down two notches and told her to try that for a week or so. She's at least 6" shorter than me, and the canes were set how I use them, and she has been hunching her shoulder right up in order to use it, which has no doubt added to her neck pain. I asked her why the stick was set so high, and she said some doc or physio had told her to use it that way ::)
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It was pretty simple- I just stood there with the cane on the ground and the handle about even with my wrist. I don't think it is that exact a science that you need super specific measurements, as the way you walk, what shoes you are wearing etc all play a role as well.
Thanks to that silly cashier I was leaning very hard to the left, which I thought might be important to keep my weight off my recovering leg.... but apparently not.
Def
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you can see that MTO has grown/matured with all the talk about walking sticks lately..... :)
I see a discussion on what pills (for medical reasons) everybody takes coming up soon., followed by a "they do not make them like they used to" thread (wait, we have one of those....)
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:D
If we get to the stage of having a "show your incontinence pants" thread, we're in trouble :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
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you can see that MTO has grown/matured with all the talk about walking sticks lately..... :)
I see a discussion on what pills (for medical reasons) everybody takes coming up soon., followed by a "they do not make them like they used to" thread (wait, we have one of those....)
I was prescribed Nexxium for acid reflux about ten years ago, and haven't touched one in about nine years and ten months. :P
Does that count?
Def
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any other medication you take?
colours of pills?
any new pills coming to the market?
OEM or branded pills?
Are US made pills better than Asian made ones ...
do you swallow them alone or with water?
Do they make your excretions have a funny colour/odour.....
.such a broad, interesting topic
Maybe we need a new subforum for just that. :)
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I got a bit of money for my birthday a few days ago, and decided to try out the stick I mentioned on the last page. They had one in stock at my local mobility shop, about half an hour stroll away.
(http://www.eden-mobility.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/o/rob100177.jpg)
I got a cane that's a multitool :D
Both the stick and the brolly seem of reasonable build quality. It is heavier than a normal stick, so not ideal for longer walks, but with the detachable brolly it makes more sense than carrying my Fulton Huntsman right now.
The height is not adjustable, but is already the right height. However, it is slightly shorter with the brolly removed as the ferrule stays on top of the brolly. There is a small rubber end cap on the end of the cane itself, but I can't see that lasting very long, or having much purchase when you need it most. It still saves carrying both a cane and separate brolly though, or being unable to use a walking brolly as a stick when it's raining.
I'm going to look for a small ferrule that I can carry in my pocket and fit/remove as required. I do have a small removable ferrule for a hiking pole, but unfortunately it doesn't fit :-\
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That certainly does seem like an interesting doodad, although I don't believe I have ever owned, let alone carried an umbrella, so I am not sure how much I would personally be interested in one.
I have to wonder though, would it not just be easier to get one of these?
(http://www.taghats.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Head-Umbrella-Hat.jpg)
Def
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Maybe it would free up one hand, but I think it's certainly easier on the pride to use the umbrella cane :D
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See? There's your problem. I gave up having any pride years ago.... :ahhh
Def
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Yeah, we noticed :rofl:
:P
In fairness, it's something that can only be considered an occasional use item. I'm not in a condition to be using any umbrella if it's windy - it would either blow me over or strain my neck and induce the balance problems. It's also not something to use on the longer walks due to the extra weight, as this too might have a cumulative effect on my neck.
However, for shorter walks (a couple of miles or less) when there's chance of a shower, I think it's a decent way to carry a decent brolly. Weight wise it's only about 50g (2oz) heavier than my Fulton Huntsman, which can only be brolly OR stick (roughly 680g as compared with 630g). The canopy is only slightly smaller than the Huntsman, but larger and better built than most cheap compact umbrellas.
After I got it back home, I did have doubts and wonder if it was a bit of a folly. I really don't think it is though. I'm pretty certain there'll be days of changeable weather, when I'll be really glad I have it. Besides which, as it's effectively a birthday gift, I'm not out any cash even if it spends most of it's life stood by the door waiting for the right weather conditions :D
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I was in the country this weekend, 1050m altitude, near the Styga waters (where Achilles bathed to become immortal). We found snow from 850m and up, it was great. There was a lady that was selling chestnut canes and sticks, her one-handed husband is making (as she said), 5€ for a straight one and 25€ for a croocked one. I bought the later, it is lightweight, light colored and plain, no polish or ferrule. I used it to walk on the snow and near a river and a lake, I like it very much. I'll use a pyrograph to engrave my wife's name on it, in the same fashion I did it in my Opinel. I will keep it for outdoors only (left it in the car permanently), so I will leave the ground end as is I guess.
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That sounds like an excellent trip!
Def
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It does indeed. :tu:
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A member of my wife's congregation makes walking sticks and poles for a hobby and I bought one from him a few months ago (for an insanely small amount of money) . What I'd call a "thumb" stick with an antler handle. Also makes for a good prop to keep you rucksack off the wet ground. :D
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/Scenery/DSC_0024_zpsbdihs3ta.jpg)
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That type is called a "fourka" here, derived from "fork" I believe. It was used by farmers in order to lift weights up the animals' heights (horses, mules and donkeys) and also to fork down snakes' heads etc. We have a similar telescopic one for lifting clothe hangers to the upper closets.
The basic distinction between a farmer's and a shepherd's pole is that a farmer's pushes things away (as your bag away from the soil) while a shepherd's pulls things towards (like a goat's neck for the Arabic type, or a goat's ankle for the Greek type).
I remember the "Book of the Junior Woodchucks", describing a walking pole like this, for protection against crawling creatures, aming other uses.
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The chances of having to pin down snakes in Scotland are pretty slim, but other than that I can see the uses. :)
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
Yeah, canvas and leather. No, not great for the Scottish weather, but I've only ever used it as a day bag and it's mostly carrying snacks and my waterproofs. Given that most modern bags aren't waterproof either I'm not too worried.
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
Yeah, canvas and leather. No, not great for the Scottish weather, but I've only ever used it as a day bag and it's mostly carrying snacks and my waterproofs. Given that most modern bags aren't waterproof either I'm not too worried.
Does it have a frame?
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
Yeah, canvas and leather. No, not great for the Scottish weather, but I've only ever used it as a day bag and it's mostly carrying snacks and my waterproofs. Given that most modern bags aren't waterproof either I'm not too worried.
Does it have a frame?
That one doesn't, but I do have a genuine vintage rucksack that does.
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
Yeah, canvas and leather. No, not great for the Scottish weather, but I've only ever used it as a day bag and it's mostly carrying snacks and my waterproofs. Given that most modern bags aren't waterproof either I'm not too worried.
Does it have a frame?
That one doesn't, but I do have a genuine vintage rucksack that does.
Frames make life much more comfortable :tu:
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That is a very retro rucksack you have there Gareth
Can't imagine it doing too well in the Scottish weather ???
Summer only kit maybe ??? Maybe not - I forgot that makes no difference to the rain in Scotty :rofl:
Never owned a brolly Def?? Make sure you bring one when you come to Sydney - It has been raining here for about three weeks non stop!!
Everybody in Sydney carries a brolly
I wear a Tilley hat. It keeps the water off my neck. Other than that it's just water.
Def
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I was in the country this weekend, 1050m altitude, near the Styga waters (where Achilles bathed to become immortal). We found snow from 850m and up, it was great. There was a lady that was selling chestnut canes and sticks, her one-handed husband is making (as she said), 5€ for a straight one and 25€ for a croocked one. I bought the later, it is lightweight, light colored and plain, no polish or ferrule. I used it to walk on the snow and near a river and a lake, I like it very much. I'll use a pyrograph to engrave my wife's name on it, in the same fashion I did it in my Opinel. I will keep it for outdoors only (left it in the car permanently), so I will leave the ground end as is I guess.
Here it is.
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Very cool!
Def
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Here is my latest bought at a local pow wow from an elderly Anishinaabe artist. The turtle represents good health and long life. The cane surprisingly fit me perfectly for height. The oval turtle makes this one of the most comfortable canes I have in my collection.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo004/IMG_2784small_zpsbrsyynyl.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo004/IMG_2784small_zpsbrsyynyl.jpg.html)
The shaft also features these decorative cuts every few inches..
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/Chako_photo/Chako_photo004/IMG_2785small_zps8ucyvog9.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/Chako_photo/media/Chako_photo004/IMG_2785small_zps8ucyvog9.jpg.html)
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Very cool Dan!
Turtles are one of my all time favourite animals, and most could be considered dinosaurs as they have survived more or less unchanged since prehistoric times. I'd have probably snapped that one up the moment I saw it too!
In a completely different direction, there's a discount shop not far from me that I was in a few weeks ago and they had carbon fiber trekking poles for $40/pair. I have been resisting the urge to go back and get them, but my resolve is getting weaker by the day. :ahhh
Def
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Well I've bitten the bullet and ordered a stick, 53" Hazel thumbstick with a Buffalo horn (wide fork). The Wide fork allows it to used as a rifle rest.
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Well I've bitten the bullet and ordered a stick, 53" Hazel thumbstick with a Buffalo horn (wide fork). The Wide fork allows it to used as a rifle rest.
That definitely works, though it's not nearly as stable as shooting prone it's a heck of a lot easier than shooting unsupported. :)
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My daily walker.
(http://www.timelessjewishart.com/EDC_zx/H_9.jpg)
Decided that if I had to start using a stick at the age of 32 (at the time) then it would be a really nice one. Blackthorn from the village of Shillelagh in Ireland.
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Oh, that's a nice one pomsbz. :tu:
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Indeed! That is a beautiful walking stick indeed!
Def
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Very beautiful! :tu:
Myself, I've been looking for a trekking pole variant that doubles up as a camera monopod... :think:
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Very beautiful! :tu:
Myself, I've been looking for a trekking pole variant that doubles up as a camera monopod... :think:
Like these?
https://mountainsforeverybody.com/hiking-poles-with-camera-mount
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Very beautiful! :tu:
Myself, I've been looking for a trekking pole variant that doubles up as a camera monopod... :think:
Like these?
https://mountainsforeverybody.com/hiking-poles-with-camera-mount
Yup, read that one earlier on the week :D
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It's interesting that you should say that- I was actually in a shop today looking at trekking poles that do just that!
Def
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I've got two like those, and also have the 90 degree adapter so I can use it as a monopod for my celestron binoculars as well.