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Tool Talk => SOG Tool Forum => Topic started by: Fred on July 23, 2006, 08:31:56 PM
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I heard a rumor that there's going to be a new SOG multi coming out.Anyone else know about this?
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you mean that automatic one? i think a friend of mine used to have one. i think it was made for undercover knob screwing or something like that.
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I have the automatic one- in fact, you can read a review of it that DaveBinGA wrote here http://www.multitool.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=1 on Multitool.org. I have one- neat little multi, but I doubt I'd rely on it for any serious work. I think Fred is talking about the ultra-secret new multitool that SOG has hinted at, but hasn't released any information on yet. I personally can't wait- SOG quality is really high, and their tools are quite popular with alot of folks.
Whatever it is, it should be interesting to see!
Def
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Yeah I heard about a new one coming out.I was wondering if anyone else heard anything?
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Pics? ;D
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I don't know if there are pics available.so far it seems like a rumor at best or a hallucination at worst!
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I hope it is smaller like the pocket power plier but with locks like the powerlock.
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???I did a little nosing around to my distributors and no word on it yet. :-\
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I spoke to the director of marketing at SOG this afternoon and he assures me there is a new tool in the works, but it is still top secret. No pictures or details have been released yet, either officially or otherwise.
Def
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Any hints at all? Like, is it an entirely new tool, or "just" a customized version of an existing tool, like the Paladin PowerPlays?
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The Paladin PowerPlay tools are pretty cool. I don't really need all those specialized tools but my brother-in-law works for the local cable company and says he would use one allot.
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The new tool is apparently quite top secret and the only thing I know about it so far (ie, could squeeze out of Chris!) is that there is one, and he hasn't even seen a prototype yet, so I am guessing we are taling about a whole new tool.
Def
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That stinks.I have been drooling over the thought of a new SOG
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Me too.
So many other multi tool brands have dropped out. It seems like only Vic and Gerber have a viable share of the market dominated by L'man.
I know that SOG can bring out a nice tool. I just hope they have a marketing/distributing plan that will insure enough sales to justify them staying in the multi tool field.
~Bob
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Well, as you may have noticed, we have a SOG specific forum here. The only other company that's got that is Leatherman. I had to do a LM specific forum, because if it weren't for them, we wouldn't be here. I know there were multis long before the PST, but I don't think that anyone can argue that Tim Leatherman brought them mainstream and popularized them. SOG got their own forum here because of the amount of support and enthusiasm Chris (Marketing Director) at SOG showed when I contacted him about this site. He really seemed interested, and I know he's been reading this stuff when he's had a chance. With that kind of enthusiasm behind launching a new tool, I am sure that it will be quite successful.
Of course, they have also had a pretty darned good run with the PowerLock. It's never been as heavily marketed as other tools, and it's conistantly ranked pretty high amongst multi users, so that's nothing to sneeze at either.
Def
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I agree, and wish them lots of luck. When it comes to sales of their new tool, they can always count on me to do my part!! ;D
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Me too- I was thinking of getting a second job so I can afford more tools!
Def
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Hello. My name is Bob. Welcome to Sogaholics Anonymous.
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I am glad you are here Bob- now I can show my wife that I am not all that bad when it comes to multis! >:D
Def
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that yellow tool clip is sweet!
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Thanks. Only one I've ever seen. They tell me there were a few made in red and green also.
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I have seen the green ones, and I think also a red one but that yellow one is awesome!
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Chris, now that your here on Multitool.org, any hints about this mystery new tool..... PLEASE :D
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Hey Bob...
Since you have sooo many tools. I think you should send me that SwitchPlier... pretty please???
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Hey Bob...
Since you have sooo many tools. I think you should send me that SwitchPlier... pretty please???
Hmmmm,
No, I think I'd better hang onto it. No telling what sort of despicable things you might do to those poor squirrels with it!
:D
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Hey Bob...
Since you have sooo many tools. I think you should send me that SwitchPlier... pretty please???
Hey!
You didn't happen to FAKE that whole tonsilitis episode in order to make your parents feel sorry enough for you to buy you a SwitchPlier, did you?
;)
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No! I would never!
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:D :laugh:
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I may be wrong but isn't he SHOT show this week? You think SOG will give any hints of this new tool. We can only hope.
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Did we ever get a clear indication.......is there an actual new SOG tool in the works, or was the new tool the Paladin PT-540?
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Are you talking about the collaborative project of SOG, Victorinox, and Leatherman? It's a titanium SwissTool with compound leverage pliers, a S30V one-hand opening drop point blade, and a pocket clip. They had originally agreed to reissue the Leatherman Flair with compound leverage and a S30V one hand opening c0cktail fork. But Tim thought there was a possibility of prohibition being reinstated and was worried it would have a negative impact on sales.
...seriously though, I'll be interested in hearing what SOG has up their sleeve.
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.....I like that S30V one-hand opening c0cktail fork idea! O0
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I talked to the guys at SOG there are going to be two new multitools and a improvement of the powerlock called the powerlock 2.0. There is a sneak peek of one of the new tools on their website under the blog.
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I talked to the guys at SOG there are going to be two new multitools and a improvement of the powerlock called the powerlock 2.0. There is a sneak peek of one of the new tools on their website under the blog.
(http://sogknives.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/SOG-2007-08.jpg)
The caption reads "This one should get you excited."
That is exciting.
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...is that...plastic?
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Hmmm......I see outside opening blades.....and the plastic is only on one handle........maybe the plastic is the cover for a driver bit compartment, like a Wenger MiniGrip has?
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Funny, I was caught on the different pivot pins on each handle.
I wonder if this is a prototype, and if so, how far along it is? I'd hate to be teased with so many interesting things only to have them lost before it hits production.
Def
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Hmmm......I see outside opening blades.....and the plastic is only on one handle........maybe the plastic is the cover for a driver bit compartment, like a Wenger MiniGrip has?
I have been wanting a SOG, but the only thing really holding me back is the way you have to get to the tools on the inside. Lifting up that little cover then getting the tool out, then closing the cover...too much work. Probably a trivial nuisance but I like my tool to be quick and easy to use. However if those are outside blades I think I will be sleeping on the couch when it is released. (as in the wife won't be happy when it shows up on my doorstep))
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I have similar feelings about the SOGs available now. Great ideas, but a tool should be accessible quickly and easily. If one had time to plan, one wouldn't need a multitool, would one?
Def
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The picture is odd. If I am going to be teased at least let me see what you have. I hope there are outboard opening tools and a blade that is not quite as thin as the standard powerlock. I wont get my hopes up though. I seen a pic last year of the SOG double duty or somthing like that. It was a prototype folding knife with 2 assissted opening blades one serrated and the other plain. Anyway, it seemed like a definate keeper but it never came to be. :(
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I hate it when companies do that. :(
SOG has been hinting this new tool up for a long time though. Hopefully they will make it to the production stage.
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I agree... The PowerLock is a nice design, but it is falling behind some of the newer offerings from other manufacturers.
Of course, if SOG's reputation is anything to go on, this one should be pretty fantastic.
Def
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Are we there yet?
...Any word on a release date?
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Nothing new on the SOG website yet except that teaser pic.
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My contact at SOG has promised me some more info soon...
As soon as I get it I will post it.
Def
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The PDF for the new SOGs is now available for download :D
here: http://www.sogknives.com/news/press/presszip/SOG-2007-NewProd.pdf
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I was just gonna post that!
Def
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Very interesting!
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Wow, there are a lot of innovations in the tools described on that PDF page. I'm proud of SOG for investing the time and effort to keep pace with larger competitors. I can't wait to see these tools first hand!
Check out those "Piano-Locks" blade releases. At first glance, they remind me of SwissTool individual backsprings. But these from SOG are individual lock releases, not backsprings. What do you guys think?
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The PowerAssist looks interesting. I have a Flash 2 folder that uses SOGs assisted opening and really cool. You just barely push open the blade and flips open nice and smooth. We'll have to wait and see how useful it will be on a multitool.
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New picture of the PowerAssist posted in the SOG blog: http://sogknives.com/wordpress/
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Well for cripes sake. :P
Somehow I missed seeing all those other cool pictures the first time: http://sogknives.com/wordpress/?p=56#more-56
Pretty cool!
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...Check out those "Piano-Locks" blade releases. At first glance, they remind me of SwissTool individual backsprings. But these from SOG are individual lock releases, not backsprings. What do you guys think?
I don't understand the motivation for individual locks. Is the intention so you can lock 2 or more tools open simultaneously?
Wonder if the increased complexity allows dust/dirt to collect in between the individual locks.
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Is there a list of tools available yet? It looks like an entire handle was wiped out for that speed assist knife...
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It looks that way to me as well. As for what tools are in it, it looks like a good variety of standard SOG tools, which is good because it will allow you to continue to customize your tool.
Def
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I don't understand the motivation for individual locks. Is the intention so you can lock 2 or more tools open simultaneously?
Wonder if the increased complexity allows dust/dirt to collect in between the individual locks.
I still haven't figured out the intent of those piano lock keys. ??? SOG doesn't offer much of an explanation in their literature so far, but it's early yet. We'll see if they explain the darn things better once they get the new tools posted on their regular web page.
Is there a list of tools available yet? It looks like an entire handle was wiped out for that speed assist knife...
It appears there are two one-hand opening knives, with some type of speed/assist mechanism running down the center.
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"individually lock open with the new patent pending Piano-Locks"
They've lost me. Why would you need/want separte locks for each tool?
""Blade: 3.75” x .125”....Edge: Straight"
Are both of the assisted opening knives the same type of blade? Although I like the plain edge assisted opening blade, I'd prefer a choice of a plain edge sheepfoot or a v-cutter for the second assisted opening blade. Why isn't the v-cutter an assisted opening tool? I don't find it practical to have a rescue tool burried in the handle.
The gear covers are a welcome addition but they may cause problems IF they trap sand or other debris.
Is there a list of tools available yet? It looks like an entire handle was wiped out for that speed assist knife...
The PowerLocks that I've seen weren't completely filled with tools. The S62 and presumably other models have a large plastic spacer on the side with the bit adapter. With the extra space in the old design and the knives outside in the new design, accommodating a sufficient selection of tools on one handle probably didn't require any effort.
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...Don't get me wrong. Let's not get stuck on the "piano keys". They should pat themselves on the back for introducing assisted opening blades on a multi-tool and putting covers on the compound leverage gears. It seems they have been listening to feedback from customers and have taken it seriously. I hope my criticism is considered constructive. I think the assisted opening blades will make this a big seller (if it's priced competitively) but I'd like to see them step it up even another notch-- individual springs, a drop point and sheepfoot combo, or the first assisted opening v-cutter on a multi-tool.
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I'd like to handle one before I say it's better than my Powerlock...1.0 I guess we call them now? The new locking mechanism looks interesting..
The assisted opening knife seems like it would engage easily (which is the point of it I guess), but I don't see a real need for it. Many people carry a stand alone knife anyways, and it looks like it would fly open when you didn't want it to.
The gears never got in my way; I like them the way they are. Easy to clean IMO...maybe the gear covers are removeable?
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The gears never got in my way; I like them the way they are. Easy to clean IMO...maybe the gear covers are removeable?
The gear covers on the Paladin tools (made by SOG) have what appear to be the same gear covers. They are riveted on, not removable.
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So how exactly does the "SOG Assisted Technology" actually open the blades? Does this little lever have anything to do with it?
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Oops, or is that lever maybe the blade lock release?
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It's a torsion bar, similar to the assisted opening models by Kershaw. It hold the blade closed until the blade is opened about 5 degrees, then the spring takes over and snaps it open the rest of the way.
Def
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Oops, or is that lever maybe the blade lock release?
I think your right. I have a Flash 2 that use SOGs SAT opening. The lock at the front is to unlock the blade and close it. While the red one on the end of the knife near the pocket clip is to lock the blade closed. So it doesn't get assisted opened in your pocket :o. The SAT opening works really good it's like having a switch blade.
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I think your right. I have a Flash 2 that use SOGs SAT opening. The lock at the front is to unlock the blade and close it. While the red one on the end of the knife near the pocket clip is to lock the blade closed. So it doesn't get assisted opened in your pocket :o. The SAT opening works really good it's like having a switch blade.
Surely that's what these are, a version of a flick knife. I seem to remember CRKT were taken to court over their M16 knives and the definition of a flick knife given was a blade that opens by a spring or gravity. CRKT won the case because the flipper was neither a spring nor could it be used just by gravity.
So are these things classed as illegal in states that flick knives are deemed illegal?
I know I would not dare to own one here in the UK, although some of the so called assisted opening knives are for sale. I dread that if the legal system has a good look at the design, sees that spring, any owners will be getting a knock on the door.
Dave
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Hmmmm......(fake sigh) I suppose I shall have to purchase myself one in order to find out how well it works. Ahh well...... ;)
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Hi Bob,
Somebody has to volunteer to do this. If you hadn't, I was going to have to buy my first SOG. Please advise where I can get mine :D.
Cheers - Joe
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I took a video of two knives I have that use SOGs SAT opening to show how well it works. I'm really excited about the PowerAssist. The first is a Flash 2, then the Twitch 2, I put in a LM folder to show how well their assisted opening works using no spring.http://youtube.com/watch?v=AWau0C599X4
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Neat demonstration prime! I've never played with any of the assisted SOG's. It looks like they both snap open with authority.
Can you tell / Do you think the assist mechanism will weaken with heavy usage?
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...and is the blade on the Flash II tight when opened? What is the handle made of?
I've been thinking of buying one (looking for the best price), but I always hesitate with stuff with small moving parts/springs/levers..
And to stay on topic..does anyone know what the second assisted blade is on the new Powerlock?
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Can you tell / Do you think the assist mechanism will weaken with heavy usage?
I haven't used them long enough to tell if the spring will weaken after long use.
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...and is the blade on the Flash II tight when opened? What is the handle made of?
Yes it's pretty tight when opened, hardly any "wobble" is noticeable. SOG makes the Flash 2 with many different handles, the one I have is Zytel. But they make them with Aluminum handles.