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Title: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 13, 2011, 02:23:40 PM
Ok guys and gals, lets have a list of countries that issue/have issued SAKS/Swiss Tools!!!

So to start.........

1. Current Swiss Soldatenmesser 2008 (Trekker with new two tone scales)
2. Current German 2003 (Trekker with green scales and German forces logo)
3. Dutch 1993 (Centurion with green scales and Dutch forces logo)
4. Current Dutch 2010 (Dual Pro X with green scales and Dutch forces logo).



Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: MultiMat on May 13, 2011, 02:35:19 PM
5. Australian Army BO Swisstool.late 1990's - 2011(replaced by Schrade Tough Tool)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: LooseNut on May 13, 2011, 10:33:26 PM
Duder, where did you get the information about trekkers in the Irish Army as i've never heard of them?
Any photos maybe?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 13, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
After I found one I got confirmation from Vic. It seems they are not easy to find, maybe only parts of the army were issued this knife.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: cerbera147 on May 14, 2011, 10:59:48 AM
I asked around in a few places in Ireland including Petersons; sadly no one had seen it before  :-\
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Styerman on May 14, 2011, 05:42:51 PM
Vic. has been working on a deal with the Indian Army - that would be a huge sale if it eventuates .

Chris
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: bren10man on May 15, 2011, 06:26:12 PM
Not official issue, but they sell Victorninox SAKs and Tools in our Post/Base Exchanges, lots of American GI's (to include myself) use Victorinox products.

I was recently issued (twice) a Gerber 600 series in BO multitool.  I am not going to use it; will use SOG Power Plier EOD in BO for my upcoming visit to Mesopotamia.....along with 2008 SAK issue and Champion. 

This will be an interesting list once complete!!!

Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 15, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
here's some more!!!

RAF survival knife 1990's (Hunter with red handle and engraving on blade and lettering on scales)

Canadian Civil Defence 1990's? (Centurion with lettering on handle)

Croatian Military Police 1980/90's? (108mm Trooper with HV VOJNA POLICIJA engraved on handles)

Duder, do you have a picture of the Luxembourg Forester please?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Styerman on May 16, 2011, 02:15:33 AM
The Dutch Air Force and Navy pilots were at one time issued a Craftsman with smooth blue alox scales .

What about Latin american countries ?

Chris
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: cannonball on May 16, 2011, 03:23:57 AM
I've seen NATO marked 108mm Tropers on ebay.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 16, 2011, 08:53:32 AM
From what I know Victorinox makes a distinction between "official" soldier knives which are ordered through their "authority" department and other knives which are ordered through their advertisement department (which can also be in use by military or police forces).
The knives I have mentioned were ordered from the authority department and I have been told that knives like the RAF Hunter or the Dutch Airforce Craftsman were ordered otherwise in Ibach although the are definitely used by military forces.
Sometimes military or police forces get their knives from Victorinox representations in foreign countries and these may get a print localy. In these cases Ibach is often not even aware of these knives.
For my collection I categorize the knives in "official" soldier knives (the ones I know they were ordered in Ibach through the authority department), military/police knives (knives ordered otherwise but definitely in official military use) and other knives (with military/police prints or emblems).

Among the "official" soldier knives the Luxembourg knife is probably the one which is produced in lowest quantity (about 2500 pcs); Luxembourg is a small country with a very small army.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 17, 2011, 10:36:28 PM
Thanks Duder, great picture  :drool: So what SAKS have you got in your 'knives ordered otherwise but definitely in official military use' collection  :)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 17, 2011, 11:42:10 PM
Actually only 2 models that fall into this category: 4 different versions of the Dutch Airforce Craftsman and 2 RAF Hunter (one with older 4-line stamp, one with newer Swissmade-stamp).
It`s very difficult to find reliable informations about such knives, that`s why I mainly concentrate on the "official" soldier knives.
When I contacted Victorinox about the Dutch Airforce knife (the old alox version) they did not even recognise their own knife at first. It took a while before they found some infos about it. And even than the infos are not complete most times.


Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: LooseNut on May 18, 2011, 10:06:59 AM
After I found one I got confirmation from Vic. It seems they are not easy to find, maybe only parts of the army were issued this knife.  :cheers:

Thanks for posting this, never heard of that model at all despite having relatives who were in the PDF and being a reservist. It might interest some that either a leatherman or a SAK are recommended kit for private purchase though.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Jack Russell on May 18, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
My understanding is that the RAF Hunter is not issued to an individual Airman
 it is part of the aircraft survival kit. If on routine inspection/service it has dissappeared! then a new oned is issued from stores the packaging removed and it is replaced in the kit.
If you Have one In a box with paperwork It may have come from the stores if without it may have come from the Aircraft.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Dunc on May 19, 2011, 09:35:31 AM
5. Australian Army BO Swisstool.late 1990's - 2011(replaced by Schrade Tough Tool)


Great thread but I'm sad to read this  :( I know you were concerned about the schrade but is it definite ?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ICanFixThat on May 19, 2011, 04:37:15 PM
Here is one from the Lithuanian army, apparantly produced in 1994.  According to Duder it was not purchased through the military authority department, so it was likely done through their advertising department.  I don't have any information on how or to whom in the army it was issued.  Any information anyone can provide would be great.

(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1594)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: MultiMat on May 19, 2011, 05:06:03 PM
5. Australian Army BO Swisstool.late 1990's - 2011(replaced by Schrade Tough Tool)


Great thread but I'm sad to read this  :( I know you were concerned about the schrade but is it definite ?

Fairly sure Dunc  :( :( :(. There is a Military marked(I think it has a MSN +'Australian Defence Force' on the pliers) Schrade MT being issued to Australian Army personnel & I would think it unlikely that a service as small as the ADF(Australian Defence Forces) would have more than one supplier of MTs  :think: :think:. + the Defence budget has had significant cuts so it has come down to a cost cutting exercise  >:( >:( >:(.

I am trying to pries Sea Monster's Aussie Army issue Schrade(Poorade) Tough Tool from his grasp.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ?eter on May 20, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
Other than the Swiss Army, has Wenger ever supplied knives for military contracts?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Woz on May 20, 2011, 09:55:14 AM
IIRC they made some of the older German GAK. Germany has more than one supplier, almost the same knife was made by Victorinox, Wenger, Klaas, Miltec and others.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Sea Monster on May 20, 2011, 09:58:25 AM
5. Australian Army BO Swisstool.late 1990's - 2011(replaced by Schrade Tough Tool)


Great thread but I'm sad to read this  :( I know you were concerned about the schrade but is it definite ?

Fairly sure Dunc  :( :( :(. There is a Military marked(I think it has a MSN +'Australian Defence Force' on the pliers) Schrade MT being issued to Australian Army personnel & I would think it unlikely that a service as small as the ADF(Australian Defence Forces) would have more than one supplier of MTs  :think: :think:. + the Defence budget has had significant cuts so it has come down to a cost cutting exercise  >:( >:( >:(.

I am trying to pries Sea Monster's Aussie Army issue Schrade(Poorade) Tough Tool from his grasp.


The Schrade tool definitely exists, as I have one. The "why/where/when" of it's issue, I am unsure of.

(For anyone in Australia - THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VOTE LABOR!)

Back on topic, I have a Dutch army knife.

Basically a Trekker with green scales and the Dutch army insignia molded into it.

I've seen pictures of a newer one with OH and Vics Forward-half combo blade.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 22, 2011, 07:34:03 PM
and just so i can show off one of my photos, here is a RAF Hunter as part of the contents of the Personal Survival Pack found in pilots seats...
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 22, 2011, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks for the foto ! Very interesting !  :tu:
Do you know what`s written on the orange sign above the knife ? Knife Hunter... ?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 22, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
a close in view for your enjoyment  ;)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 22, 2011, 09:22:56 PM
Thanks a lot !  :salute:
So it seems the knife is part of 3 different packs. Is there more detailed information about these packs on the big orange sign on top of the board ?  ::)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 22, 2011, 09:59:03 PM
It says; Survial Aids Personal Survival Packs (PSP's) Seaking (HA), Lynx (HE), Hawk (Z Pack), BA Mk3 (Back Pack).

I do know that these packs were made by a company called Survival Aids Ltd which stopped making them in 1995.
The RAF Hunters were manufactured at least until November 2005, as i have seen one with a production date as this,
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 22, 2011, 10:20:00 PM
So the knife was part of the survival pack in 3 different helicopters, very interesting !
A longer time ago I had asked Vic when these RAF Hunters were produced and they replied in 1995. But that cannot be the whole truth, obviously. Here is a foto of my 2 knives (the older one on top). The "Swissmade" stamp of the newer one is used since 2005.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Styerman on May 23, 2011, 04:24:54 PM
The swiss issue a BO Spirit with det cap crimpers to at least some of their troops .

Chris
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 26, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
Duder, do you know how GAK's come packed for the Bundeswehr? Do they come in a box or plastic packaging as for the Dutch Armies DAK's? Do they have a leaflet? Just interested :)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: duder on May 26, 2011, 10:46:52 PM
Good question  :think:  , unfortunately I don`t know how they are packed for the Bundeswehr. I only know that the old 108mm GAKs came in green sleeves, without leaflets (as far as I know).
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: macabee on September 01, 2011, 02:53:06 PM
1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with print
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)

Are the Swisstool /Spirit a general issue, or only to speSmurfpillst staff EOD's etc?

Cheers :multi:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Spork, Lord of Lime Jello! on September 01, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
IIRC they made some of the older German GAK. Germany has more than one supplier, almost the same knife was made by Victorinox, Wenger, Klaas, Miltec and others.

Really? A Wenger produced GAK? I've never seen mention of that anywhere else  :think:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Gareth on September 01, 2011, 07:51:20 PM
I got one of the Mil-Tec GAKs from Tony and I have to admit it's a better knife than I thought it might be, not a Vic by any stretch of the imagination but not bad at all. :)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: demonoflust on January 26, 2012, 05:20:55 PM
I'm from Singapore.
We can get the OH TrailMaster at about $27 and the Batam at $6 from the Military supply call e-mart.
Pretty Sweet :)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Reinier on January 26, 2012, 10:31:07 PM
Wow that's cheap :tu:
Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: demonoflust on January 27, 2012, 02:52:29 AM
Yes it is, so regardless of whatever reason I got to buy them right? :)

Many years ago, I have a small classic chain to a little maglite solitaire with keys and I did not care much about the classic. It was beat up but useful. I could use the scissor, the knife, toothpick and even trip my nail during when I'm outside.

During a return trip from Thailand, I forgot to put my keys in the luggage and the classic was confiscated by the airport security. Sad but not too much since it's an old and inexpensive knife. Soon without the classic, I  am starting to miss it and it's usefulness. The maglite seems to be less important and took up space as part of the keychain so I have it removed too.

I was in the Army for 2.5yr full time (compulsory for every Singaporean Man) and 10yrs annual 2 weeks reservist as a Military Police so jungle/knife is in bond with me. We were issued with a cheap jack knife during my time but it was upgraded to SAK many years back that's why we could buy them cheap and Victorinox supply it as a Military contract. Because every man is liable for Military Service, the supply e-mart is open to public.

I remembered I bought 1 Red Batam few years back in the e-mart, I couldn't find it anymore. I cannot remember where I place it. It is still in box, unused and most likely still in my SBO inside my fullpack in the old house.

Last year I purchase a Huntsman, it is always in my laptop carrying case. I will get a Alox classic soon, maybe a Alox Former and a silver maglite solitaire as it's companion. My current black beat up maglite is at least 15 years old maybe even 20 years and still working very well.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wootz on January 15, 2013, 10:00:55 AM
I found an old file on my computer, interesting if you read german:  ;)
 

Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:54:13 +0100
From: Elsener, Robert
Subject: Taschentools Armeen




Sehr geehrter Herr


Vielen Dank für Ihr Mail vom 18. August 05 und Interesse an den Produkten
von Victorinox. Leider kann ich nicht alle Ihre Fragen beantworten, da die
Informationen nicht in geeigneter Form vorhanden sind. Die
Informationsthematik ist aber auch für Victorinox aktuell und wichtig,
weshalb wir wissenswerte Daten (historische und produkttechnische Angaben)
zusammenstellen wollen.



Taschentools für Armeen

Aktuell gehören Taschentools von Victorinox in folgenden Armeen zur
Ausrüstung:



Schweiz

0.8610.26

Soldatenmesser

3.0323.N

mit fortlaufender Numnmer für Festungswachtkorps


Deutschland

seit 1976

0.8770.04

olivgrün mit Schild, Nagelfeile auf Holzsäge seit 1985

seit 2003

0.8461.M04DE

mit Relief-Logo Bundesadler, Klinge für Einhandbedienung (ohne Pinzette und
Zahnstocher)



Holland

seit 1983

0.8201.27

mit der Aufschrift KL (königliche Landmacht)

seit 1993

0.8451.04R

mit Relief-Logo Holländische Landmacht


Dänemark

seit 1992

0.8953.01R3

mit Heissprägung


Luxemburg

seit 1996

0.8363.3

mit Tampoprint Hoheitszeichen


Norwegen

seit 1998

3.0323.3N


Australien

seit 2001

3.0323.3N

mit Diamantgravur Nato Stock-Nummer


Singapur

seit 1999

0.2303.3

Upgrading wird evaluiert


Brunei

seit 1999

0.8453.3R2

mit Camouflage-Schalen


Malaysia

seit 2003

0.9123.03R2

mit Camouflage-Schalen und Hoheitszeichen


Keine Lieferungen mehr an:

Cypern

1999

0.8353.03R2

mit Tampoprint Hoheitszeichen


Südafrika

0.8610.26

Mit Nato Stock-Nummer


In Indien stehen wir noch in der Anfangsphase: Wir haben spezielle Muster
für die Indische Armee angefertigt und an die entsprechenden Stellen
geliefert. Die ersten Reaktionen sind sehr positiv aber wie so oft im
Militärgeschäft, dürfte es bis zur definitiven Bestellung noch einiges
dauern.


Holland
Wir stehen vor der ersten Auslieferung von brünierten SwissTool Spirit
3.0223.3N mit normaler Messerklinge anstelle der Schere. Die holländische
Armee zieht sogar in Betracht, ein solches Gerät als Standardausrüstung an
jeden Wehrmann abzugeben.


Singapur
Das Upgrading läuft voran. Es wurden bereits die ersten Einhandmesser
0.8463.M3 mit dem Hoheitszeichen von Singapur ausgeliefert.


Österreich
Evaluierung betreffend Einhandmesser und SwissTool schreitet voran.


Den grössten Umsatz erzielen wir jedoch immer noch über die PX-Shops mit der
Amerikanischen Armee, nur dass dort der Wehrmann die Messer zu einem
speziellen Preis selber kaufen muss.



Freundliche Grüsse aus dem  "Swiss Knife Valley"



VICTORINOX

Leiter Qualitätssicherung

Executive Master of Business Excellence

Robert Elsener

Schmiedgasse 57

CH-6438 Ibach-Schwyz

Switzerland

Tel.           + 41/41 81 81 219

Fax            + 41/41 81 81 959

E-Mail        219@victorinox.ch

Internet      http://www.victorinox.com
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wootz on January 15, 2013, 10:03:25 AM
Interesting as well:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,24687.0.html
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wootz on January 15, 2013, 10:19:52 AM
I found an old file on my computer, interesting if you read german:  ;)

And two old copies:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Frankctz on January 15, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
I'm from Singapore.
We can get the OH TrailMaster at about $27 and the Batam at $6 from the Military supply call e-mart.
Pretty Sweet :)

Woow excellent price....buy it right away
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: victor7000 on January 14, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
Some Malaysian and Indonesia soldier... unfortunately not mine...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/993462_10200720731527322_1373311164_n.jpg)

The link to the picture is from here:
https://www.facebook.com/VictorinoxLockbladeSeriesOfKnives
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: enki_ck on January 14, 2014, 12:13:51 AM
Nice to see Melvin's collection is growing. :D Too bad he doesn't post more here. I've seen him posting pics on a few SAK themed FB pages already.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ColoSwiss on January 14, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
Some Malaysian and Indonesia soldier... unfortunately not mine...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/993462_10200720731527322_1373311164_n.jpg)

The link to the picture is from here:
https://www.facebook.com/VictorinoxLockbladeSeriesOfKnives

Unfortunately not mine either.  :drool:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: wonderwolf on January 15, 2014, 04:51:36 AM
Ugh, camo scales, but those do look nice...........I have a GAK, looking for a new DAK....didn't realize other countries used these as well......Must resist.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Melvin Sjardinal on February 04, 2014, 05:49:45 AM
I'm here Bro
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: u99 on February 08, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with print
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)

Not just black, OD too. Example below:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/j9e4.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/n6j9e4j)
Forester Luxembourg
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on February 10, 2014, 09:30:35 PM
Black or OD scales, I would just love to have one  :drool:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: BIG-TARGET on May 17, 2014, 11:16:31 PM
Military issued SAKs are such a drool fest!! :tu: :SAKnight:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Blade runner on May 18, 2014, 01:37:51 AM
Some Malaysian and Indonesia soldier... unfortunately not mine...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/993462_10200720731527322_1373311164_n.jpg)

The link to the picture is from here:
https://www.facebook.com/VictorinoxLockbladeSeriesOfKnives

Unfortunately not mine either.  :drool:
Military issued SAKs took me in to collect knives, them came one alox, a second and.... :facepalm: :facepalm: now I have more than 100 :whistle:
Those Indonesian are a headache for me, very hard to find around here!
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: BIG-TARGET on May 19, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
Some Malaysian and Indonesia soldier... unfortunately not mine...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/993462_10200720731527322_1373311164_n.jpg)

The link to the picture is from here:
https://www.facebook.com/VictorinoxLockbladeSeriesOfKnives

Unfortunately not mine either.  :drool:
Military issued SAKs took me in to collect knives, them came one alox, a second and.... :facepalm: :facepalm: now I have more than 100 :whistle:
Those Indonesian are a headache for me, very hard to find around here!
Ever since that Facebook page was created.  I've been perversely drawn to military lockblades,,,ESPECIALLY the camo ones!!!! :viking: :SAKnight:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on June 11, 2017, 02:00:00 PM
1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with print
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)


And since I am currently enthused about army issue knives, there must be some new ones to add to this list..... :pok:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on June 11, 2017, 02:27:30 PM

1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with print
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)

And since I am currently enthused about army issue knives, there must be some new ones to add to this list..... :pok:




Oh and obviously  :worthless:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ColoSwiss on June 11, 2017, 07:41:11 PM
Here are some more military Vics:

- Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
- Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
- British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
- Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy

Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 11, 2017, 10:33:39 PM
Great thread!!! :like:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on June 12, 2017, 08:07:40 PM


1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Barry Rowland on June 30, 2017, 04:45:23 PM
This is a great thread!  I've only two military Vics, both German.  I've had my 111 for a little while and just recently picked up a Vic 108 at a WWII reenactment. 
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on June 30, 2017, 06:35:13 PM
This is a great thread!  I've only two military Vics, both German.  I've had my 111 for a little while and just recently picked up a Vic 108 at a WWII reenactment.

Thanks Barry :salute:

Just looking through this list has anyone seen/have the Cypriot army issue knife?


Keine Lieferungen mehr an:

Cypern

1999

0.8353.03R2

mit Tampoprint Hoheitszeichen

Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 10, 2017, 08:16:50 PM
Anyone got any information about these? The crest is of Indian Navy. Can't find any other information anywhere. Got the picture from one of the collectors groups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/67ebcc9bc69d24c0a5fabe9cfd8cb72f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Don Pablo on November 10, 2017, 08:35:24 PM
I don't recognize the big spiky thing.  :think: :oops:



1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge

Maybe Ireland should be on the "in the past" list as it doesn't issue any knife currently?

Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Ron Who on November 10, 2017, 08:37:35 PM
That´s one helluva marlin spike!
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on November 10, 2017, 08:41:23 PM
Anyone got any information about these? The crest is of Indian Navy. Can't find any other information anywhere. Got the picture from one of the collectors groups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/67ebcc9bc69d24c0a5fabe9cfd8cb72f.jpg)

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 :like:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Ron Who on November 10, 2017, 08:42:12 PM
Anyone got any information about these? The crest is of Indian Navy. Can't find any other information anywhere. Got the picture from one of the collectors groups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/67ebcc9bc69d24c0a5fabe9cfd8cb72f.jpg)

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 :like:

Go get one Michel!
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on November 10, 2017, 08:48:34 PM
Anyone got any information about these? The crest is of Indian Navy. Can't find any other information anywhere. Got the picture from one of the collectors groups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/67ebcc9bc69d24c0a5fabe9cfd8cb72f.jpg)

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 :like:

Go get one Michel!

I already spent at least half an hour trying to find more info about it, but unfortunately in vain  :facepalm:

The search only resulted in more variations of army knives from the south asian region that I dind't know of and now need to have  :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 10, 2017, 08:52:30 PM
Anyone got any information about these? The crest is of Indian Navy. Can't find any other information anywhere. Got the picture from one of the collectors groups. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/67ebcc9bc69d24c0a5fabe9cfd8cb72f.jpg)

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 :like:

Go get one Michel!

I already spent at least half an hour trying to find more info about it, but unfortunately in vain  :facepalm:

The search only resulted in more variations of army knives from the south asian region that I dind't know of and now need to have  :facepalm: :facepalm:
Do you have any pictures of those variations you found out? Can you please share them?

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on November 10, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
Of course, these I never saw before:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/8c8b60303c291585903edbab8435bd4c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/bfdda9097c1b596e2f6d91df5f7adcf1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/53d887cd1d20075f291b0d0c7cdaa0c0.jpg)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 10, 2017, 08:58:44 PM
Of course, these I never saw before:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/8c8b60303c291585903edbab8435bd4c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/bfdda9097c1b596e2f6d91df5f7adcf1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/53d887cd1d20075f291b0d0c7cdaa0c0.jpg)
Wow!! Today was amazing

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on November 10, 2017, 11:54:05 PM
Of course, these I never saw before:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/8c8b60303c291585903edbab8435bd4c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/bfdda9097c1b596e2f6d91df5f7adcf1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/53d887cd1d20075f291b0d0c7cdaa0c0.jpg)
Wow!! Today was amazing

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Malaysian Police issue...

On the marlin spike SAK, did the Indian Navy finally announce the Vic Contract?  It definitely looks like the prototype I saw last year at Indodefence minus the Navy shield...


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 11, 2017, 05:33:28 AM



Malaysian Police issue...

On the marlin spike SAK, did the Indian Navy finally announce the Vic Contract?  It definitely looks like the prototype I saw last year at Indodefence minus the Navy shield...


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Malaysian Police issue looks great.

Announcement regarding the Victorinox Procurement by Indian Navy hasn't come to my attention. If it was materialized, it definitely would have been a big sale for Victorinox and the news would be out.

I have one query though. That Marlin spike looks huge; how does it fit in a long with other tools? Is there a different back scale cutout? Very confusing.


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on November 11, 2017, 05:43:09 AM



Malaysian Police issue...

On the marlin spike SAK, did the Indian Navy finally announce the Vic Contract?  It definitely looks like the prototype I saw last year at Indodefence minus the Navy shield...


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Malaysian Police issue looks great.

Announcement regarding the Victorinox Procurement by Indian Navy hasn't come to my attention. If it was materialized, it definitely would have been a big sale for Victorinox and the news would be out.

I have one query though. That Marlin spike looks huge; how does it fit in a long with other tools? Is there a different back scale cutout? Very confusing.


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Didn’t got a chance to hold it in hand... The marlin spike must have been a tool required by the Indian Navy... just a guess... Vic rep did mention that it was a prototype they were pitching to A Navy org...


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 12, 2017, 09:20:31 AM
I don't recognize the big spiky thing.  :think: :oops:



1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge

Maybe Ireland should be on the "in the past" list as it doesn't issue any knife currently?
Shouldn't be the Belgium Spirit and Australia Navy 111mm too in this list? Pic courtesy Jaya_man(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/f09955ce8945a62df63d7fc01fa61e38.jpg)

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Mechanickal on November 12, 2017, 09:57:25 AM
I don't recognize the big spiky thing.  :think: :oops:



1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge

Maybe Ireland should be on the "in the past" list as it doesn't issue any knife currently?
Shouldn't the Belgium Spirit and Australia Navy 111mm in this list? Pic courtesy Jaya_man(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/f09955ce8945a62df63d7fc01fa61e38.jpg)

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I mentioned this before.
I have never heard of a Belgian army issued knife/multitool.
National military forums state that soldiers don't receive a knife/multi on enlisting or when being send out on a mission, but are free to buy their own.
If there actualy is an undocumented Belgian Swisstool Spirit, the hunt is on.
But then again, what unique proporties would it have? A lion stamped sheath? An ABL "YY" marking on the tool?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 12, 2017, 10:01:09 AM
I don't recognize the big spiky thing.  :think: :oops:



1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge

Maybe Ireland should be on the "in the past" list as it doesn't issue any knife currently?
Shouldn't the Belgium Spirit and Australia Navy 111mm in this list? Pic courtesy Jaya_man(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/f09955ce8945a62df63d7fc01fa61e38.jpg)

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I mentioned this before.
I have never heard of a Belgian army issued knife/multitool.
National military forums state that soldiers don't receive a knife/multi on enlisting or when being send out on a mission, but are free to buy their own.
If there actualy is an undocumented Belgian Swisstool Spirit, the hunt is on.
But then again, what unique proporties would it have? A lion stamped sheath? An ABL "YY" marking on the tool?
Probably some of them are just proposed models then.

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Mechanickal on November 12, 2017, 10:10:42 AM
I don't recognize the big spiky thing.  :think: :oops:



1. Switzerland - OHT, Swisstool, Spirit (old models 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961)
2. Germany - OHT (old 108mm GAK)
3. The Netherlands - Dual Pro X, Swisstool, Spirit (old alox DAK and Centurion)
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Danmark - Adventurer red
6. Luxembourg - Forester black with print
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool
9. Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT, Bantam both black standard scales
12. Malaysia - Outrider camo with Philips and print
13. Outrider Swiss Joint Staff
14. Rucksack Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs)
15. British RAF Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Master Craftsmans for Dutch Air force and Navy
 
And in the past:

Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black with Tampoprint cap badge

Maybe Ireland should be on the "in the past" list as it doesn't issue any knife currently?
Shouldn't the Belgium Spirit and Australia Navy 111mm in this list? Pic courtesy Jaya_man(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/f09955ce8945a62df63d7fc01fa61e38.jpg)

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I mentioned this before.
I have never heard of a Belgian army issued knife/multitool.
National military forums state that soldiers don't receive a knife/multi on enlisting or when being send out on a mission, but are free to buy their own.
If there actualy is an undocumented Belgian Swisstool Spirit, the hunt is on.
But then again, what unique proporties would it have? A lion stamped sheath? An ABL "YY" marking on the tool?
Probably some of them are just proposed models then.

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Could be!
Like vic offered a tweaked model for demonstration purposes, on which the military can decide if they're going to go with that.
Other then that, the special forces may have equipment that we, as regular citizens, don't know off...
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on November 12, 2017, 10:25:10 AM
Let’s not forget... It’s was mentioned here in the forums as well... Those Singapore Army ones are not standard issue but are available for purchase... And they appear standard ones with no special markings...


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Mechanickal on November 12, 2017, 12:25:19 PM
Let’s not forget... It’s was mentioned here in the forums as well... Those Singapore Army ones are not standard issue but are available for purchase... And they appear standard ones with no special markings...


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But... but... whay makes them Singaporean then?? The receipt? :shrug:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: BleaKrytE on November 12, 2017, 12:46:21 PM
I remember having read somewhere the Brazilian Army would start issuing SAKs too... Not sure though.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 12, 2017, 01:59:17 PM
I remember having read somewhere the Brazilian Army would start issuing SAKs too... Not sure though.
I think this is the one. Not sure though. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/22b51fdf218e850ef377441ee8aed96e.jpg)

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on November 12, 2017, 08:43:33 PM
I remember having read somewhere the Brazilian Army would start issuing SAKs too... Not sure though.
I think this is the one. Not sure though. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171112/22b51fdf218e850ef377441ee8aed96e.jpg)

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Have a look at this topic I did going back a bit....... https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,40505.0.html.  :salute:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 12, 2017, 08:47:13 PM


Have a look at this topic I did going back a bit....... https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,40505.0.html.  :salute:

Awesome, thanks for clarification.


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: BleaKrytE on November 13, 2017, 09:59:11 AM
If I remember they were supposed to be Spartans with army/navy/air force scales


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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on November 13, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
Of course, these I never saw before:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/8c8b60303c291585903edbab8435bd4c.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/bfdda9097c1b596e2f6d91df5f7adcf1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171110/53d887cd1d20075f291b0d0c7cdaa0c0.jpg)


Lovely collection 👍🏻 That Felin poster is especially tasty🍩 :D
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: abhiram on November 22, 2017, 12:08:26 PM
Did German Army ever issue Swisstools to their soldiers? I know only about 111mms and 108mms issued to Bundeswehr.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on April 18, 2018, 10:54:38 AM
A friend who happens to be a knife distributor in SE Asia is attending the Defense Services Asia 2018 Conference in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and shared these pics in one of the FB SAK groups...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/e24691c66725c677a3f6a60b7dbb1799.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/d137d1037ae2261b040ccd5033ba7d4d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/bb09fe02f317e4379e1775d3aebb19e2.jpg)

Interesting to note, there’s a SAK for VAT 69 (Elite Malaysian Police Commandos) and the Indian Navy knife.

During the Indodefence 2016 conference, the Indian Navy knife was just a prototype. Now we can see the navy crest printed on the blue scales. Tried searching google if there are any official announcements on this and found none. So my guess is this is not an official military sales contract but maybe a commercial contract with limited production issue for select navy personel... But I could be wrong.

In the bottom right corner of the last pic, we can see the countries which have the Swisstool. Maybe similar to those issued to NATO and France...
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: cody6268 on April 18, 2018, 01:44:15 PM
WIll that 3D marlinspike be a production tool? Or will I have to wait until these Indian Navy knives hit eBay at ridiculous prices?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on April 18, 2018, 02:43:43 PM
Don’t know if it’s going to be a regular production tool...
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on April 18, 2018, 09:33:19 PM
Great pictures  :salute:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on May 04, 2018, 08:19:59 PM
UAE and Qatar.....
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: gene stoner on May 04, 2018, 08:44:14 PM
UAE and Qatar.....

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Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ReamerPunch on July 21, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
So what does the list look like now?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Gath on July 21, 2018, 01:40:34 PM
WIll that 3D marlinspike be a production tool? Or will I have to wait until these Indian Navy knives hit eBay at ridiculous prices?

The new Skipper Pro has a marlinspike like that.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: EMZ on July 24, 2018, 09:59:49 PM
This one is now for sale on Ebay (No, it is NOT my auction!): Victorinox Hungary army knife



https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Hungary-army-knife-very-rare/183329492414?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52474%26meid%3Df37ff2e0917f466f842ec7e5d5e2bc42%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D323353468593%26itm%3D183329492414&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

Seems to me it is rather rare.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on July 25, 2018, 10:20:20 AM
This one is now for sale on Ebay (No, it is NOT my auction!): Victorinox Hungary army knife



https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorinox-Hungary-army-knife-very-rare/183329492414?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52474%26meid%3Df37ff2e0917f466f842ec7e5d5e2bc42%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D323353468593%26itm%3D183329492414&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

Seems to me it is rather rare.

Couple of days ago there was someone on the SAK Facebook group selling a couple of these as well.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Shuya on July 31, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
Whith this topic in mind I stumbled across a evilbay listing...used OHTs, from the german army.

Well treated as you see:  :whistle:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zHIAAOSw3bxa~Zjx/s-l1600.jpg)

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Victorinox-BW-Taschenmesser-Einhandoffnung-Bundeswehr-Messer-gebr/282969690728?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52950%26meid%3Dbb842b8d50da4bb3acdf78d53023a8d4%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D132721490027%26itm%3D282969690728&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Syncop8r on July 31, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
I don't know if this is of any help with the list but many years ago I was issued some sort of Alox when I was in the New Zealand Army Territorial Force (reserves).
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on August 02, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
UPDATE

Current issue;
1. Switzerland - OHT (old models - 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961) + Swisstool Spirit
2. Germany - OHT (old - 108mm)
3. Netherlands - Dual Pro (old - alox Pioneer and Centurion) + Swisstool Spirit
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Denmark - Swisstool (old - Adventurer with HMAK print)
6. Luxembourg - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool (Fenin)
9. Qatar - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT or Bantam (private purchase both with black scales)
12. Malaysia - Army = Outrider camo with Philips (Tamoprint badge) and Police
13. Swiss Joint Staff - Outrider
14. Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs) - Rucksack
15. British RAF - Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Dutch Air force and Navy Masteer - Craftsman
17. United Arab Emirates - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
18. Hungary  - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
 
And in the past:
Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black scales  with Tampoprint cap badge (2000 made)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on August 04, 2018, 01:45:46 PM

UPDATE

Current issue;
1. Switzerland - OHT (old models - 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961) + Swisstool Spirit
2. Germany - OHT (old - 108mm)
3. Netherlands - Dual Pro (old - alox Pioneer and Centurion) + Swisstool Spirit
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Denmark - Swisstool (old - Adventurer with HMAK print)
6. Luxembourg - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool (Fenin)
9. Qatar - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT or Bantam (private purchase both with black scales)
12. Malaysia - Army = Outrider camo with Philips (Tamoprint badge) and Police
13. Swiss Joint Staff - Outrider
14. Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs) - Rucksack
15. British RAF - Hunter (aircraft survival kits)(there's a similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Dutch Air force and Navy Masteer - Craftsman
17. United Arab Emirates - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
18. Hungary  - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
19. Indonesia - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
 
And in the past:
Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT black scales  with Tampoprint cap badge (2000 made)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: EMZ on August 04, 2018, 07:47:26 PM
Guardian, thanks for the update!

BTW: The French Army calls it Felin...

Do the Norwegian Defence Forces have government issue pocket knives, or is everybody issued a SwissTool? Or maybe do soldiers have to buy their own pocket knives?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: EMZ on August 04, 2018, 07:58:04 PM
Whith this topic in mind I stumbled across a evilbay listing...used OHTs, from the german army.

Well treated as you see:  :whistle:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zHIAAOSw3bxa~Zjx/s-l1600.jpg)

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Victorinox-BW-Taschenmesser-Einhandoffnung-Bundeswehr-Messer-gebr/282969690728?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52950%26meid%3Dbb842b8d50da4bb3acdf78d53023a8d4%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D132721490027%26itm%3D282969690728&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Very well used, I would say.
The seller is asking € 18,99. If double that you can almost buy a new one.

BTW: Shuya, maybe you can help me. I am looking for a (near) mint GAK, the old 108 mm "Trooper" model. Do you have any idea what the price range for these knives is? Or where to buy them?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops..
Post by: Guardian on August 05, 2018, 02:10:12 PM
UPDATE (with correct spelling  :whistle:)

Current issue;
1. Switzerland - OHT (old models - 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961) + Swisstool Spirit
2. Germany - OHT (old - 108mm)
3. Netherlands - Dual Pro (old - alox Pioneer and Centurion) + Swisstool Spirit
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Denmark - Swisstool (old - Adventurer with red scales and HMAK print)
6. Luxembourg - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool (Felin project)
9. Qatar - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - OHT or Bantam (private purchase both with black scales)
12. Malaysia - Army = Outrider camo with Philips (Tamoprint badge) and Police = ?
13. Swiss Joint Staff - Outrider
14. Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs) - Rucksack
15. British RAF - Hunter (used in aircraft survival kits. Similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Dutch Air force and Navy Masteer - Craftsman
17. United Arab Emirates - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
18. Hungary  - Forester (Tamoprint badge)
19. Indonesia - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
 
And in the past:
Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue scale versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT (black scales with Tampoprint cap badge; 2000 made)
New Zealand - alox pioneer/soldier?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Huntsman on January 13, 2019, 05:31:55 AM
Added this to the SAK and Swisstool dating and identification resources (https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75774.msg1630522.html#msg1630522) stickied thread
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: jaya_man on January 13, 2019, 10:24:54 AM
Sharing this one here... I have no info whether it is current issue or not...

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,49775.msg1838347.html#msg1838347
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on January 17, 2019, 10:59:13 PM
Thanks Jaya man :hatsoff:

Hi Reinier :salute:

EVERYONE- please feel free to add to list.

UPDATE

Current issue;
1. Switzerland - OHT (old models - 1890, 1908, 1951, 1961) + Swisstool Spirit
2. Germany - OHT (old - 108mm)
3. Netherlands - Dual Pro (old - alox Pioneer and Centurion) + Swisstool Spirit
4. Australia - Swisstool
5. Denmark - Swisstool (old - Adventurer with red scales and HMAK print)
6. Luxembourg - Green Forester (Tamoprint badge)
7. Norway - Swisstool
8. France - Swisstool (Felin project)
9. Qatar - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
10. Brunei - Centurion
11. Singapore - Black OHT or Bantam (private purchase both with black scales)
12. Malaysia - Army = Outrider camo with Philips (Tamoprint badge) and Police = ?
13. Swiss Joint Staff - Outrider
14. Kampfschwimmer (German Navy SEALs) - Rucksack
15. British RAF - Hunter (used in aircraft survival kits. Similar knife for the Canadian Air Force)
16. Dutch Air force and Navy Masteer - Craftsman
17. United Arab Emirates - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
18. Hungary  - Black Forester (Tamoprint badge)
19. Indonesia - OHT (Tamoprint badge)
20. Austrian - Dual density OHT (Tamoprint badge)
21. Royal Thai - Dual density OHT (Tamoprint badge)
22. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia - Green OHT (Tamoprint badge)
23. Italian police (Polizia di Stato) - Black Rescue Tool (Tamoprint badge)
 
And in the past:
Cyprus - Nomad
Nigeria - Champion (red and blue scale versions with pruner blade)
South Africa - alox soldier/pioneer (nato stock number on scale)
Ireland - OHT (black scales with Tampoprint cap badge; 2000 made)
New Zealand - alox pioneer/soldier?
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Rapidray on January 17, 2019, 11:30:54 PM
That is an impressive list there!  :like: :tu:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: gregozedobe on January 18, 2019, 12:06:49 PM
AFAIK Australia now supplies the (crappy) Taylor (made in China) Schrade BO Tough Tool (copy of the original ST1) to Oz troops (obviously a decision made by an office-bound penny-pinching accountant).  So no more SwissTools for our grunts :(
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Reinier on January 18, 2019, 01:04:56 PM

Hi Reinier :salute:


 :waving:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:09:38 PM
Help you update your profile :climber:
Two versions of Malaysian police swisstool
Thailand royal police knife
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:13:35 PM
100 anniversary of Mexican air force
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
Finnish Defence Force swisstool
By the way generally they issued a commercial black oxide version without the army logo NSN 5110095109218(Not the Finland“s nation number?)
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:36:36 PM
Some versions of Emirates army knife
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:42:58 PM
Slovenia army knife
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:44:04 PM
Indian army knife
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:44:58 PM
Canada army knife
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:47:47 PM
Prototypes(Personally thinking) of Australian navy knife and Malaysian army knife
You can see there is XXXXXXX on the scale rather than the NSN
LOL
I think it's funny
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Wunan on June 20, 2019, 06:50:56 PM
By the way i am the one have sold the Hungary army knife on ebay but seems like nobody like it
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ToolJoe on June 21, 2019, 05:54:52 AM
Some versions of Emirates army knife

That German Naval serrated Skipper or Helmsman is a beaut..
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Nick4 on June 21, 2019, 09:31:01 AM
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: EMZ on June 22, 2019, 08:48:31 PM
 :ahhh :ahhh
What a bunch of marvelous Vic knives!! EXCELLENT.
Many, many thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: ElevenBlade on February 22, 2020, 03:36:26 PM
Fascinating thread.
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Storm on February 23, 2020, 05:53:05 AM
Couldn't give exact time frame for beginning of issue but the New Zealand Army was issuing soldiers to troops from 1973 on( a friend had one from basic back then ) . From approx 2003 on  , the Victorinox centurion is the issue knife (handed back as I left the army regrettably 🙁) Ive since got my hands on a replacement which ill get a pic of up when i remember . As far as i know , none of these  had national flags etc or other markings
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Rapidray on February 23, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
Great thread!  :like: :cheers:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Huntsman on February 24, 2020, 07:44:44 AM
Great pics everyone - Thanks for sharing

@ Nick4 - I put those San Marino images in the 111mm Rescue Gallery in the Wiki - I knew you would not mind!!
https://sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=134

@ Storm - So they took your knife off you when you left - Bummer
You could only do that with a Vic as they are such high quality and last for years, so can be recycled !!

Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Nick4 on February 24, 2020, 10:06:32 AM
@ Nick4 - I put those San Marino images in the 111mm Rescue Gallery in the Wiki - I knew you would not mind!!
Sure, my pleasure.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Guardian on April 15, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
Anyone seen this before?
Australian Navy Knife:   http://www.australianmilitaryknives.com/clasppostwar/sak.html
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Syncop8r on April 15, 2021, 10:21:08 PM
Couldn't give exact time frame for beginning of issue but the New Zealand Army was issuing soldiers to troops from 1973 on (a friend had one from basic back then) . From approx 2003 on, the Victorinox centurion is the issue knife (handed back as I left the army regrettably 🙁) Ive since got my hands on a replacement which ill get a pic of up when i remember. As far as i know, none of these  had national flags etc or other markings.
:tu:
Title: Re: Armies who issue SAK's/Swiss Tools to their troops...
Post by: Gio_Luso on May 20, 2022, 09:41:39 AM
État-major de conduite de l'armée (EM cond A) - Switzerland
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Post by: Echotech on May 20, 2022, 10:14:21 AM
Very cool Guo, thanks  :like: :tu: