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Title: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: glenfiddich1983 on May 31, 2018, 08:49:48 AM
I read about this new model, the Skipper Pro. It's a Skipper with a big fat marlin spike:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/eba329d167889a43f2ee7b7bdb4f788a.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/57fafc568b37b7c02e3141f984b1dd30.jpg)

Available in mid june this year!

http://www.schweizer-messer-store.de/epages/64660911.mobile/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64660911/Products/085032mw&ClassicView=1
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Steinar on May 31, 2018, 09:07:39 AM
Finally a rounded, usable marlin spike! I'm tempted!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: GoatDragon on May 31, 2018, 09:31:16 AM
Why is it curved like that? Every marlin spike I have ever seen has been straight. Granted I know next to nothing about marlin spikes or what they are used for, so seeing something new isn't shocking, but it does make me curious.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Thunderpants on May 31, 2018, 10:15:50 AM
The were gonna call it the Nipple-Piercer Pro but the marketing department talked them out of it.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: magentus on May 31, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
The were gonna call it the Nipple-Piercer Pro but the marketing department talked them out of it.
:ahhh Where's the 'Eyes Watering' Emoji???
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: ReamerPunch on May 31, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
It's pretty. :like:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2018, 11:13:35 AM
The were gonna call it the Nipple-Piercer Pro but the marketing department talked them out of it.
I thought that's what the straight pin was for?
I guess I've been using it the wrong way then.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: LeaF on May 31, 2018, 11:24:14 AM
Did you mentioned that there no back-tool: no corkscrew either Phillips screwdriver..
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on May 31, 2018, 11:46:11 AM
Since they never brought the CT carbon into production, I'm trying to contain my excitement. Especially, since that is only a photoshop image (see red circles, and the pivot region of the spike looks odd too). Anyway, what do you reckon is in the green circle? Photoshop error? Something new?
On the up side, it looks like its going to have 2 eyelets :tu:.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on May 31, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
Wow This is exciting i
(@ GoatDragon) It's a throw back to the British Army Knife
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Greg Jones on May 31, 2018, 11:57:47 AM
Curse you Victorinox
 :like:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: ThePeacent on May 31, 2018, 12:08:21 PM
Why is it curved like that? Every marlin spike I have ever seen has been straight. Granted I know next to nothing about marlin spikes or what they are used for, so seeing something new isn't shocking, but it does make me curious.

dozens of marlin spikes are curved (most Camillus knives, Spyderco TUSK, Colonial brand, the famous AG Russell Skorpion, all the BUND German Navy Knives, the Boye marine knives, the majority of British Navy Knives and modern versions of it, and dozens others have curved spikes  :salute:)

It's mainly used for untying knots and working with ropes, so it's more common and obvious in marine/boatmen environments and jobs  :tu:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: VICMAN on May 31, 2018, 12:18:12 PM
I read about this new model, the Skipper Pro. It's a Skipper with a big fat marlin spike:
Available in mid june this year!

I like the looks of that...thanks for posting glen! :like: :tu: :tu:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: koke on May 31, 2018, 12:25:13 PM
Since they never brought the CT carbon into production, I'm trying to contain my excitement. Especially, since that is only a photoshop image (see red circles, and the pivot region of the spike looks odd too). Anyway, what do you reckon is in the green circle? Photoshop error? Something new?
On the up side, it looks like its going to have 2 eyelets :tu:.

Hey, Etherealicer, there is a demo video from Victorinox working with the knife. and CT Carbon Could appear as a Limited Ed.   :ahhh

LEAF it can be seen phillips and awl as back tools and important it has Locked Spike in open position.

Check it out ....

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cunmqhpjf9mywd6/AAAl3v1KmsQMxpy9t05TtVOla?dl=0

Regards
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: kmanct3 on May 31, 2018, 12:31:03 PM
I will be buying one :salute:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: LeaF on May 31, 2018, 12:57:00 PM

LEAF it can be seen phillips and awl as back tools and important it has Locked Spike in open position.

Check it out ....

https://www.dropbox.com/s...v1KmsQMxpy9t05TtVOla?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cunmqhpjf9mywd6/AAAl3v1KmsQMxpy9t05TtVOla?dl=0)

Regards


Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: koke on May 31, 2018, 12:59:33 PM


Thanks for sharing!

:tu:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Thunderpants on May 31, 2018, 01:01:43 PM
Aren't those "eyelets' too small for any kind of rope a nautical person might use?
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
What's this ”CT carbon”?
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: koke on May 31, 2018, 01:40:52 PM
What's this ”CT carbon”?

CyberTool with carbon fiber scales which were announced first time last year.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70550.0.html


Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: gustophersmob on May 31, 2018, 01:51:41 PM
The were gonna call it the Nipple-Piercer Pro but the marketing department talked them out of it.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: gustophersmob on May 31, 2018, 01:53:28 PM
Since they never brought the CT carbon into production, I'm trying to contain my excitement. Especially, since that is only a photoshop image (see red circles, and the pivot region of the spike looks odd too). Anyway, what do you reckon is in the green circle? Photoshop error? Something new?
On the up side, it looks like its going to have 2 eyelets :tu:.

The green circle looks like the normal liner lock to me.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on May 31, 2018, 03:04:16 PM
What's this ”CT carbon”?

CyberTool with carbon fiber scales which were announced first time last year.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70550.0.html
Oh, thanks.  :cheers:
That reminds me... What happened to the Hunter Pro alox?
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: gene stoner on May 31, 2018, 03:07:08 PM
I remember reading some where on here about the Indian Navy's Victorinox prototype. If I recall correctly it was very similar to this knife.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: koke on May 31, 2018, 03:12:02 PM

Oh, thanks.  :cheers:
That reminds me... What happened to the Hunter Pro alox?

coming ....  :whistle:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: LeaF on May 31, 2018, 03:20:38 PM

Oh, thanks.  :cheers:
That reminds me... What happened to the Hunter Pro alox?

coming ....  :whistle:
Never..
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Aloha on May 31, 2018, 03:29:51 PM
Good to see Vic coming out with a neat new tool.   :like:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: italophil on May 31, 2018, 03:34:50 PM
This looks like an actually usable marlin spike, and the OHO blade and liner lock are a great upgrade in my opinion.
Some of the pics show the knife with some without the compass print on the scales. I'd prefer without.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: cody6268 on May 31, 2018, 03:59:45 PM
I was hoping they would release a civilian version after it was announced for the Indian Navy--and now they have. I wish it had the wood saw and PE blade like the prototypes, now that would be a usable farm tool. Price seems a bit steep, especially when I can get a British pattern for around $30.

What's weird is the lack of a Phillips or corkscrew--seriously, is this the only SAK to have a backside awl, but nothing else? I guess it's perhaps due to the fact that there's no wood saw, whose spring the Phillips bears on in many models, including the Trekker.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: jonon9 on May 31, 2018, 10:04:44 PM
Oh very nice, I will be buying that I can think of loads of uses for the spike. One thing that kinda sucks is I wish the awl wasnt on the back.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Alan K. on May 31, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
Goat, when bearing down on a hard knot or trying to separate a braid with a marlin spike, you may be directing force towards the hand holding the rope.  With a straight spike you are more likely to stab your hand if you slip, while a curved spike is more likely to miss your hand as it will swoop or dip when you slip rather than go directly forward.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Borg on May 31, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
Very nice, and a decent marlin too, will definitely put it on my want list..puts me in mind of my oldie here :tu:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1732/41578375335_2fdaa7e869.jpg)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: toolguy on May 31, 2018, 10:42:48 PM
Why is it curved like that? Every marlin spike I have ever seen has been straight. Granted I know next to nothing about marlin spikes or what they are used for, so seeing something new isn't shocking, but it does make me curious.

I've never seen a  knife equipped with a straight marlin spike.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: GoatDragon on May 31, 2018, 10:49:54 PM
Why is it curved like that? Every marlin spike I have ever seen has been straight. Granted I know next to nothing about marlin spikes or what they are used for, so seeing something new isn't shocking, but it does make me curious.

I've never seen a  knife equipped with a straight marlin spike.

What about the regular Skipper (http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Skipper)?
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=3721&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: toolguy on May 31, 2018, 11:35:58 PM
LOL.  That's not a proper marlin spike.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: T14 on June 12, 2018, 12:18:15 PM
I will be getting this as mod fodder.

For me, the perfect outdoors SAK would be a locksmith with marlinspike added. Now THAT is a proper working tool!  :drink:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on June 12, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
Since they never brought the CT carbon into production, I'm trying to contain my excitement. Especially, since that is only a photoshop image (see red circles, and the pivot region of the spike looks odd too). Anyway, what do you reckon is in the green circle? Photoshop error? Something new?
On the up side, it looks like its going to have 2 eyelets :tu:.

The green circle looks like the normal liner lock to me.


This.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on June 12, 2018, 12:47:35 PM

Oh, thanks.  :cheers:
That reminds me... What happened to the Hunter Pro alox?

coming ....  :whistle:

That's what she said!

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on June 12, 2018, 12:49:05 PM
Goat, when bearing down on a hard knot or trying to separate a braid with a marlin spike, you may be directing force towards the hand holding the rope.  With a straight spike you are more likely to stab your hand if you slip, while a curved spike is more likely to miss your hand as it will swoop or dip when you slip rather than go directly forward.

Miss Your!

:hatsoff:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 03:39:57 PM
Aren't those "eyelets' too small for any kind of rope a nautical person might use?
In the video it has no eyelets... so either they dropped that idea or this is an unfinished tool (proof of concept, testing).
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 03:58:23 PM
LOL.  That's not a proper marlin spike.
The alox models (First-mate/Midshipman/Sailor and Seaman) also have a smallish, straight marlin spike.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=625)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Steinar on June 12, 2018, 04:00:51 PM
Which is a re-purposed sacking needle which is not a proper marlin-spike either. The sharp edge in the inside is really A Bad Thing in ropework, IMHO.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on June 12, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
Which is a re-purposed sacking needle which is not a proper marlin-spike either. The sharp edge in the inside is really A Bad Thing in ropework, IMHO.
There are several models, some are fairly round. they are however small, but I use mine often from time to time with string.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 04:18:23 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on June 12, 2018, 04:50:28 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Please do!

Any thought on price?

Feel free to pm me :salute:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 05:15:15 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Please do!

Any thought on price?

Feel free to pm me :salute:
somewhere around 35$ ish... IIRC
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on June 12, 2018, 05:58:22 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Please do!

Any thought on price?

Feel free to pm me :salute:
somewhere around 35$ ish... IIRC
No more?! :ahhh

In that case I'd like 2, if possible...

Just to be sure: not the Skipper eh?
But like an actual Alox knife? :drool:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Etherealicer on June 12, 2018, 09:41:19 PM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Please do!

Any thought on price?

Feel free to pm me :salute:
somewhere around 35$ ish... IIRC
No more?! :ahhh

In that case I'd like 2, if possible...

Just to be sure: not the Skipper eh?
But like an actual Alox knife? :drool:
Nah, its the one I posted above, 3-layers alox.
I have to remind you that I could be off about the price. I know they are not expensive, but its been a while since I bought them. I also have no idea if they still have some.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on June 12, 2018, 09:43:04 PM
I'll be biting my nails in the meantime! :ahhh
:drool:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: NJBillK on June 15, 2018, 04:14:07 AM
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.

This is my first post on here, so please disregard if this is in considered poor form or blatantly against the rules for this forum.

I frequent Bladeforums and I have been trying to track down a particular Wenger (Professional 4 layer) for over 5 years now with no luck. Due to this, I am just going to make it... tThe model you show above and are referencing in the quote I tagged has it all except the awl... A pic of the professional is posted below.

If you could be so kind to shoot me an email with any pertinent information regarding the pictured knife, I would be greatly appreciative.

As thanks, I will do a walk through on the modification and rebuild, for those interested in working on SAKs.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: ThePeacent on June 15, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.

This is my first post on here, so please disregard if this is in considered poor form or blatantly against the rules for this forum.

I frequent Bladeforums and I have been trying to track down a particular Wenger (Professional 4 layer) for over 5 years now with no luck. Due to this, I am just going to make it... tThe model you show above and are referencing in the quote I tagged has it all except the awl... A pic of the professional is posted below.

If you could be so kind to shoot me an email with any pertinent information regarding the pictured knife, I would be greatly appreciative.

As thanks, I will do a walk through on the modification and rebuild, for those interested in working on SAKs.

Thank you in advance.

welcome!  :MTO: is a great forum even if you are not a fanatic of all multitools and pocket knives

I saw you on BF talking about this Wenger for years in many different threads (like "I wish Victorinox made... :D") and always wished that you found it  ;) and I even wanted to encourage you to join this place to search for it or have it made

We have very good searchers and capable makers here, this is your best bet  :cheers:  Good luck  and welcome again!!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: NJBillK on June 15, 2018, 06:07:32 PM
welcome!  :MTO: is a great forum even if you are not a fanatic of all multitools and pocket knives

I saw you on BF talking about this Wenger for years in many different threads (like "I wish Victorinox made... :D") and always wished that you found it  ;) and I even wanted to encourage you to join this place to search for it or have it made

We have very good searchers and capable makers here, this is your best bet  :cheers:  Good luck  and welcome again!!
Thank you for the welcoming, I do recognize your name from there.

I appreciate the heads up regarding the capable makers, but this will be an easy modification. I am just trying to decide between a bolted or pinned construction...
I know the bolted can be cleaned and maintained easier, but the pins just feel and look "right"...

I am basically just looking for an inexpensive model with a sacking needle, as I need that slab due to the machining. I also need the sacking needle, but that shiild have gone without saying.  :D

Thanks again.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: EMZ on June 15, 2018, 06:07:44 PM
Two pics from Victorinox latest military brochure.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: NJBillK on June 15, 2018, 08:34:45 PM
Two pics from Victorinox latest military brochure.
Nice, I like the new marlin spike.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: greenbear on June 15, 2018, 09:29:26 PM
Why is it curved like that? Every marlin spike I have ever seen has been straight. Granted I know next to nothing about marlin spikes or what they are used for, so seeing something new isn't shocking, but it does make me curious.

Actually most knife borne marlin spikes and many stand alone spokes do tend to have a marked curve.  Wooden handled marlin spikes tend to straight.  I don't know but I guess it's something to do with leverage, but I'm sure tradition plays a part in it

Checkout the Marlin Spikes thread to see many curved examples  :)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Frailer on June 16, 2018, 02:13:00 AM
I want one of those aloxes badly though!
Even if I don't work with ropes...
Last I checked they were still for sale at the factory store, I can check for you, next time if I'm there.
Please do!

Any thought on price?

Feel free to pm me :salute:
somewhere around 35$ ish... IIRC
No more?! :ahhh

In that case I'd like 2, if possible...

Just to be sure: not the Skipper eh?
But like an actual Alox knife? :drool:
Nah, its the one I posted above, 3-layers alox.
I have to remind you that I could be off about the price. I know they are not expensive, but its been a while since I bought them. I also have no idea if they still have some.

If they do still have them, I feel confident you could unload them quickly here. This is the only regular-production “new shield” 93mm alox knife that I don’t own, and I’d love to have one.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on June 16, 2018, 09:22:13 AM
Get in line! :twak:


:D
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: EMZ on June 16, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
At a recent arms exhibition I took a couple of snapshots of some nice that were on display at the Victorinox booth. Because there also was an experimental multitool, the Vic salesman kindly requested me not to publish a picture of that particular tool, which I agreed.

However, I can show this picture to you, where you can spot the Indian Navy knife. It has many layers, but I don't know which tools it has.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: EMZ on June 16, 2018, 03:46:39 PM
I almost forgot to mention this Australian Navy knife!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Frailer on June 16, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Get in line! :twak:


:D

For a First Mate at a reasonable price, I’ll get in line and wait patiently.  :whistle:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: ThePeacent on June 16, 2018, 04:11:11 PM


I am basically just looking for an inexpensive model with a sacking needle, as I need that slab due to the machining. I also need the sacking needle, but that shiild have gone without saying.  :D

Thanks again.

we have a nice subforum for modifications and SAK tinkering here, under the name "The Mod Squad" with cool tutorials, "how-to" threads and very interesting modding examples  :salute:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/board,16.0.html
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: u99 on June 16, 2018, 06:43:39 PM
Where were this exhibitions ?
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: EMZ on June 16, 2018, 07:44:12 PM
Where were this exhibitions ?
In France at the Eurosatory.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: u99 on June 16, 2018, 07:51:31 PM
Thx  :cheers:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on July 06, 2018, 08:37:28 PM
I’m absolutely getting this new one!!!

But... the old one is no slouch too! Like the shackle key and pliers (for safety pins and more). Carry mine all the time on me when sailing:

(http://pmgallery.pl/mobile/IMG_6776.JPG)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: ThePeacent on July 07, 2018, 01:09:18 PM
I’m absolutely getting this new one!!!

But... the old one is no slouch too! Like the shackle key and pliers (for safety pins and more). Carry mine all the time on me when sailing:

(http://pmgallery.pl/mobile/IMG_6776.JPG)

Excellent pic! I like that SAK  :like:  and that pendant too  :cheers:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on July 07, 2018, 01:15:32 PM
I’m absolutely getting this new one!!!

But... the old one is no slouch too! Like the shackle key and pliers (for safety pins and more). Carry mine all the time on me when sailing:

(http://pmgallery.pl/mobile/IMG_6776.JPG)
You've got a Panerai cap?! :sa:

Now I'm envious ^^
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on July 07, 2018, 10:55:10 PM
You've got a Panerai cap?! :sa:

Now I'm envious ^^

Well... actually... yeah, it’s a legit cap from Panerai sailing race. Got this one as a gift and decided to give it to a proper use. It’s my sailing cap  :salute:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on July 07, 2018, 10:58:22 PM
Omfg!

Got myself one from Tissot, Omega and Breitling, but will look for one of these now!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on July 07, 2018, 11:56:26 PM
I have no idea what Panerai is. :facepalm:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on July 08, 2018, 08:59:01 AM
GOOGLE! :whistle:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on July 08, 2018, 01:51:25 PM
Ok, it’s some sort of watch brand. :tu:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on July 08, 2018, 02:34:02 PM
A high end one.
Mostly known for diving their diving watches with levered crown.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Don Pablo on July 08, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
Ah, so like Casio, then?   :whistle:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Syem on July 08, 2018, 05:57:54 PM
Ah, so like Casio, then?   :whistle:
:doh:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on July 08, 2018, 11:42:28 PM
I have no idea what Panerai is. :facepalm:

It's a sailing cap brand. But they also make some promo watches, like this... ;)

(http://makuch.eu/mazury2016/mazury_2016-8.jpg)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Mechanickal on July 09, 2018, 12:44:59 PM


I have no idea what Panerai is. :facepalm:

It's a sailing cap brand. But they also make some promo watches, like this... ;)

(http://makuch.eu/mazury2016/mazury_2016-8.jpg)

Can you send me your cheapo promo watch? :angel:
I'll trade you for a Seiko.
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on July 10, 2018, 01:10:59 AM
It's a sailing cap brand. But they also make some promo watches, like this... ;)

Is that an ALM custom 93mm SAK? - I liked his work!!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on July 10, 2018, 01:17:46 AM
That’s ALM indeed...
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: cody6268 on July 17, 2018, 07:40:52 PM
Vic photos show the marlinspike getting used as a shackle key by sticking the tip in the hole, which is kinda misuse. I can see a ton of these spikes getting bent or snapped using it for such, especially given the high count of used riggers knives with messed up tips I see.

From Swiss Knife Shop's Skipper Pro page:

(https://smhttp-ssl-53433-prd.nexcesscdn.net/media/catalog/product/s/a/sa85032mw_marlin_spike_in_use_2_x1000.jpg)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Captain Hook on July 18, 2018, 06:33:27 AM
I think I might spring for the Helmsman someday just for collecting purposes  :) On a side note, why don't they make a regular Skipper with an added compass and magnifying glass and call it the Navigator or Admiral? That would be cool  :dd:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: greenbear on July 20, 2018, 09:46:14 AM
Vic photos show the marlinspike getting used as a shackle key by sticking the tip in the hole, which is kinda misuse. I can see a ton of these spikes getting bent or snapped using it for such, especially given the high count of used riggers knives with messed up tips I see.

From Swiss Knife Shop's Skipper Pro page:

(https://smhttp-ssl-53433-prd.nexcesscdn.net/media/catalog/product/s/a/sa85032mw_marlin_spike_in_use_2_x1000.jpg)

I agree Cody, quickest way to snap the spike off.  The new Skip Pro doesn't have a shackle key though, maybe Vic could change one of the other tools for it?
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on August 23, 2018, 03:13:01 PM
Just got Skipper Pro in my hands (no pics yet, maybe on weekend). Well, it's totally (and I mean TOTALLY) different knife made for different purpose than regular Skipper. So...

What about a quick comparison of regular Skipper vs Skipper Pro from my humble perspective as a certified sea sailor, lake sailor with family and even sailing instructor for a couple of seasons back in the days.

Regular Skipper: I'd say that for lake sailing or for a small family-sized sea sailboat for crusing along the coast (so say up to 40 ft) the standard Skipper makes more sense! You have pliers (great for small safety pins and smallest shackles), there is a shackle key suitable for 95% of shackles used on such yachts, and the flat marlin spike is actually great for ropes up to 8-9mm in diameter and usable for up to 12mm diameter. Also the tip-loop on a spike is nice feature if you want to finish a thick line with a nice braid made with thin houseline. One handed blade is not really necessary when sailing on a lake for pleasure, there is rarely a heavy storm which you need to go through with nearest marina days away. On most lakes (except biggest lakes in Canada I guess) you can get safely to either marina or just wild bank within 2-3 hours max, usually well below 1 hour. Same for crusing on a sea along the coast.  So with a weather alarm in your phone or barometer - it's easy to escape from a storm. If you get caught - it's usually your fault of not paying attention to instruments and (AND, not OR) clouds and weather around. If you're 2-3 days from a solid ground... well, things are different.

Skipper Pro: imagine a 50ft crusing yacht, or a 80ft long 2-mast sailing ship. Or something even bigger. Well, there is not much use for small pliers as safety pins are usually massive. On a 100ft boat that 'regular' shackle key is useless on most shackles except the one on a ship's bell, as most have bolts 10mm or more in diameter, so the flat part is not gonna fit your tiny shackle key anyway. You need a proper adjustable wrench or full-size pliers. And finally ropes... they start at 10mm and can go up to 1" in diameter easily, so you need a SERIOUS MASSIVE marline spike, locking one. Just like on the Pro. And finally one hand opening... YES, on a sea it's quite common that you NEED to operate with one hand in heavy weather (the other is JUST for your safety, even if you're roped to the deck, which is in such a case mandatory). And it can last for days. Been there done that. My longest stay on deck in storm was about 30 hrs on a 60ft yawl. So it happens.

On both knives I really like cap lifter (especially useful when spending free time in marina, lol!), flat screwdriver (bigger and locking on Pro) and small screwdriver on can opener, which works great for philips screws.  I ABSOLUTELY love the in-line Philips on regular Skipper... why oh why they didn't put one on the Pro? There is enough space opposite/below the massive marlin spike (IMO). Cork-screw... useless (as a concept) except that it holds mini-screwdriver, which can be handy if you wear glasses (like me) and nearest eyeglass repair shop is separated from you with miles of water. Sometimes 1000 miles, haha! Anyway, it could be handy, but I can easily do without. Awl - great, useful. They skipped the thread slot on Pro but I guess it's stronger that way and PRO is made to be stronger as you have little chance to ship it  for repair. Tweezers, toothpick... I don't care for that, always carry my Classic SD in a dopp kit.

To sum up - both are great tools for what they were designed. If you're lake sailor or crusing with family in Greece from island to island - get regular and enjoy all the tools and lower weight & slimmer profile. If you sail on a bigger sailboat of if you work on a ship (sail or machine) the Skipper Pro is obviously a more appropriate choice and will be much more useful on deck. And last but not least... if you enjoy sailing and collecting knifes at the same time - get both of course! Just like me :D
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on August 23, 2018, 03:28:47 PM
I have no idea what Panerai is. :facepalm:

I have no idea what a cap is.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on August 23, 2018, 03:29:57 PM
Ah, so like Casio, then?   :whistle:

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: pfrsantos on August 23, 2018, 03:30:52 PM
Vic photos show the marlinspike getting used as a shackle key by sticking the tip in the hole, which is kinda misuse. I can see a ton of these spikes getting bent or snapped using it for such, especially given the high count of used riggers knives with messed up tips I see.

From Swiss Knife Shop's Skipper Pro page:

(https://smhttp-ssl-53433-prd.nexcesscdn.net/media/catalog/product/s/a/sa85032mw_marlin_spike_in_use_2_x1000.jpg)

Well, to be fair... How in the heck would you release that shackle?!

 :think: :think:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on August 26, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
As promised... some pics of standard Skipper vs Pro...

overall - all tools exposed:
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180825-DSCF5756.jpg)

Marlin spikes
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5887.jpg)

I'll be missing that tiny screwdriver on a Pro...
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5991.jpg)

Another cool feature on a regular Skipper
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180825-DSCF5808.jpg)

But... there is only one Pro!
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5971.jpg)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on August 28, 2018, 12:49:56 AM
Great report - Thanks PiterM -     :tu:     Good to hear from a true sailor as opposed to just a collector/theoriser !!   :cheers:

I saw one in the Vic shop in Lucerne on Saturday and was very excited !! (..but did not buy!  :( )
I did take a pic - But my camera is not with me right now - Hopefully will upload soon !!

I hope this model does well for Vic !
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on November 02, 2018, 07:46:28 AM
Since they never brought the CT carbon into production, I'm trying to contain my excitement. Especially, since that is only a photoshop image (see red circles, and the pivot region of the spike looks odd too). Anyway, what do you reckon is in the green circle? Photoshop error? Something new?
On the up side, it looks like its going to have 2 eyelets :tu:.

I was wondering about those circles on the marlin spike too and wondered what on earth they were
Apologies if everyone knows this now - But I recently found out they really are there and they are rivets
- The MS is made in two halves and riveted together - Can't think where I learnt this
- I hope:
1. It's correct
2. Y'all don't know this already

What was the query/speculation over the eyelets?  ??? - I did not get that !!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Rapidray on November 02, 2018, 03:42:54 PM
As promised... some pics of standard Skipper vs Pro...

overall - all tools exposed:
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180825-DSCF5756.jpg)

Marlin spikes
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5887.jpg)

I'll be missing that tiny screwdriver on a Pro...
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5991.jpg)

Another cool feature on a regular Skipper
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180825-DSCF5808.jpg)

But... there is only one Pro!
(http://pmgallery.pl/its/skipper_900/content/images/large/20180826-DSCF5971.jpg)
Ok...I’m not going to talk about the knives...I will on the photos...those are some excellent photos...catalog quality. Very nice!  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on November 07, 2018, 06:26:50 PM
Thank you!  :hatsoff:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: PiterM on January 29, 2020, 11:25:59 PM
I hesitated a bit but in the end here's my final take on Skipper vs Skipper Pro topic. Click pic and enjoy!

:mod edit to remove advertisement
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: SteveC on January 29, 2020, 11:52:07 PM
Piter

Sorry to have to pull your link, but it is in violation of our forum policies on advertising. :salute:

Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on January 29, 2020, 11:58:26 PM
Looking forward to reading this

Many of PiterM's great photos in this thread are now in the Wiki Skipper, Skipper Pro and Large Marlin Spike pages

All accessible via this link:  https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Victorinox+Skipper+Pro

Thanks again Piter
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Andrew Nik on April 26, 2021, 02:01:55 PM
My photos

(http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402707.jpg) (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/66768dZjBjreyxo/k0jX12lahi/1402706.jpg)

 (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402716.jpg) (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/66768dZjBjreyxo/k0jX12lahi/1402714.jpg)

 (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402717.jpg) (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/66768dZjBjreyxo/k0jX12lahi/1402715.jpg)

 (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402721.jpg) (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402720.jpg)

 (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402723.jpg) (http://ixbt.photo/photo/178228/21834B7tXJVlPOn/Kat3p3ufex/1402722.jpg)
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Thunderpants on April 26, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
Awlsome photos dude!
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Rizio Il Ghiro on April 26, 2021, 02:36:52 PM
 :iagree: :like: :like:
Title: Re: New model: Victorinox Skipper Pro
Post by: Huntsman on April 26, 2021, 03:47:56 PM
Wowser .- Nice pics

And I reckon the  Skipper is an original slide lock version ???