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Tool Talk => Collector's Forum => Topic started by: Yadda on October 23, 2013, 08:06:10 PM
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Okay, I'll start out by saying I am a Plierench collector. I have Leathermans, a SAK, lots of knockoffs, a complete set of Re:Solves and Swiss+Tech, but nothing beats the Plierench for sheer collectability. The selling points for collecting plierenchs:
1 - Easy to locate - fleabay and other places have them all the time
2 - Affordability - any price range from $5 to $100, but most can be bought for under $20 US.
3 - Variety - With 4 different manufacturers, multiple patents, at least 4 styles, 2 sizes and multiple jaws for different tasks including plumbing, pipecutting and welding. You can't ask for more when it comes to collecting. In addition, starting in 1933, they started dating them. You can actually see the month and year on most versions made through the early 1960's.
4. Usability - Still very useful. Some people gripe about pinching, but they are using the tool incorrectly. The tool also locks to hold items like a vise.
5. Rarity - The A and B versions are rare. Some are even famous. If you could lay your hands on one of the tools that took the 1924 World Flight with documented provenance, it would be very expensive.
6. Merchandising - In addition there is the Eifel Multool - two versions one with a round hole (have only seen pictures and one with a nail puller hole. lots of booklets and handouts and sales demos if you can find them. There is also the extremely rare Eifel geared pivot pliers.
7. Unique - Although there are geared pliers out there today, Knipex and Heyco in particular, they don't compare to the Plierench.
8. Continuity - The tool has been manufactured steadily since around 1923.
I have a modest collection. I will take photos and start posting them this weekend.
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This plierench is called the "World Flight" model circa 1925 to 1932ish.
It came with three jaws. I have two of these. The text is different sizes and the verbiage is also slightly different. The third photo is the second version.
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I've never even seen these before, they are way cool. Thanks for sharing! :salute:
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This is the one that started the whole obsession. 1950, $6.00 imprint. Three jaws in the regular set.
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This is the smaller 7 inch version from 1933. The second photo is the 7 inch next to another 8.5 inch 1950, November with the extended pipe jaw.
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This is a group of later version plierenches from the original Plierench Corp, Vaco and Masterform.
The top wrench is a Masterform #7. The body of the wrench is wider than the original. The Vaco on the left is set up with jaw that allows you to push items apart. The middle is also a Vaco. The bottom right is a Plierench Corp.
The second photo shos aloe up of the push apart setup.
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And this is family photo.
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Sorry I was away and missed this thread earlier Lyndon. Wow, you've got quite an assortment of Plierenches there! Meanwhile, I've just now finally managed to snag one of the little 7-inchers. :cheers: I've got a few of the 8-1/2 inch size, but this is my first 7. I'll put up a picture of them together soon.
By the way, can't recall if I already asked you this, but do you know when they changed from slanted gear teeth to straight gear teeth on the Plierench? ???
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Sorry I was away and missed this thread earlier Lyndon. Wow, you've got quite an assortment of Plierenches there! Meanwhile, I've just now finally managed to snag one of the little 7-inchers. :cheers: I've got a few of the 8-1/2 inch size, but this is my first 7. I'll put up a picture of them together soon.
By the way, can't recall if I already asked you this, but do you know when they changed from slanted gear teeth to straight gear teeth on the Plierench? ???
Thanks Bob, Congrats on the 7 incher. Everyone should have 7 inches...of Plierench or more!
I don't know when the teeth changed. I will check mine. I'm spread out enough to narrow it down.
I discovered several versions of this tool that I didn't know existed so my list of wants has gotten longer. I'll PM you with a link.
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Uh-oh, more versions? Maybe I don't want to know.... :ahhh :D
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Uh-oh, more versions? Maybe I don't want to know.... :ahhh :D
Even worse, they are probably all more rare than unicorns.
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This is a recent addition to my collection. This is a G. H. Nopak Plierench. The jaws are adapted for some type on insulation installation. ???
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Well now that is an odd one! Do you think it was a special order from some manufacturer that needed those specific jaws, or do you think it was made for general sales to the public?
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Well now that is an odd one! Do you think it was a special order from some manufacturer that needed those specific jaws, or do you think it was made for general sales to the public?
Nopak owns the patents now to produce Plierench. This was made specifically for installing some sort of fitting. My photos are not very good. If the photo was better you could see the small bead weld to prevent removing the jaw. This one is really heavy. Looks like an 8.5 inch body with a 7 inch handle. The Heyco version jaws looks similar.
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Wow, a real custom job then. :salute: I'll bet there's not many of those out there, congrats! :cheers:
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8) collection of Plierenches. :tu: I've been looking at hese on ebay for a while and never won one till today. I had other tools that were more important at the time so I never really got serious about. Plus every tool I ever bid on went high for some reason. I won one today so will post some pics when it arrives. Now I just got a BIN on a 1943 with 3 jaws and case. I really dont need to start a new tool to collect. :D
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I'm liking these old (and not so old) Plierenches. :tu:
I have one with a few different jaws and it is one seriously heavy (and heavy duty) tool.
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I'm liking these old (and not so old) Plierenches. :tu:
I have one with a few different jaws and it is one seriously heavy (and heavy duty) tool.
Greg they do look mighty handy. I'm looking forward to giving them a go. :)
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8) collection of Plierenches. :tu: I've been looking at hese on ebay for a while and never won one till today. I had other tools that were more important at the time so I never really got serious about. Plus every tool I ever bid on went high for some reason. I won one today so will post some pics when it arrives. Now I just got a BIN on a 1943 with 3 jaws and case. I really dont need to start a new tool to collect. :D
Welcome to the club! :salute:
They can be quite addicting. I gave a half serious consideration at one time to collecting one from every month of each year. That larkish thought quickly evaporated.
The production years from 1932/33 to around 62 or later were dated. Considering a run of around 30 years and 12 tools per year even at $10 a tool runs around $3600 and there is no way you would get out that cheap. I estimate a collection with at least one of each production of just the 8.5 in. version, month/year combo would probably cost around $10K. If you added the 7 inch version you would probably need to go up upwards of $25K since the smaller tools are harder to find and always go for a higher price. That would not include the A and B versions, the World Flight years which weren't dated and the later versions by Masterform, Vaco and NoPack which are not dated or the specialty versions made without dates.
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You all are some real Smurfs
I'm going to try find one of these.
I was just going to collect diamond co tools and trimo pipe wrenchs but I am going to make a little room for a pliers wrench in my old tool collection drawer in my tool box.
I don't buy my old tools of evilbay
it might take a lot longer but I enjoy the hunt.
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I'm liking these old (and not so old) Plierenches. :tu:
I have one with a few different jaws and it is one seriously heavy (and heavy duty) tool.
@gregozedobe
Another club member! :salute:
The World Flight version is thicker than the later versions after 1933. This makes them much heavier.
Is yours dated (month, year) or does it have a patent date only?
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8) collection of Plierenches. :tu: I've been looking at hese on ebay for a while and never won one till today. I had other tools that were more important at the time so I never really got serious about. Plus every tool I ever bid on went high for some reason. I won one today so will post some pics when it arrives. Now I just got a BIN on a 1943 with 3 jaws and case. I really dont need to start a new tool to collect. :D
Welcome to the club! :salute:
They can be quite addicting. I gave a half serious consideration at one time to collecting one from every month of each year. That larkish thought quickly evaporated.
The production years from 1932/33 to around 62 or later were dated. Considering a run of around 30 years and 12 tools per year even at $10 a tool runs around $3600 and there is no way you would get out that cheap. I estimate a collection with at least one of each production of just the 8.5 in. version, month/year combo would probably cost around $10K. If you added the 7 inch version you would probably need to go up upwards of $25K since the smaller tools are harder to find and always go for a higher price. That would not include the A and B versions, the World Flight years which weren't dated and the later versions by Masterform, Vaco and NoPack which are not dated or the specialty versions made without dates.
Thank you. :)
You all are some real Smurfs
I'm going to try find one of these.
I was just going to collect diamond co tools and trimo pipe wrenchs but I am going to make a little room for a pliers wrench in my old tool collection drawer in my tool box.
I don't buy my old tools of evilbay
it might take a lot longer but I enjoy the hunt.
Well then Joel, I guess I'd better not show you my Diamond Calk and Horseshoe adjustable wrenches and slip joint pliers. :D
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You all are some real Smurfs
I'm going to try find one of these.
I was just going to collect diamond co tools and trimo pipe wrenchs but I am going to make a little room for a pliers wrench in my old tool collection drawer in my tool box.
I don't buy my old tools of evilbay
it might take a lot longer but I enjoy the hunt.
@JA
Sorry about that. :D
If you are only going to get one try to get the basic set with the three jaws, the straight jaw, the pipe jaw and the wire jaw (for making springs).
There were millions made so it isn't hard to find them if you know what you are seeking. All too often the unusual name and look of the tool makes people think they are more rare and worth much more than the going price.
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Here is a Link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Eifel-Geared-Plierench-w-Two-Jaws-Pouch-Advertising-Screwdriver-/301107094013?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=afJlMZsGs%252FqH1lNskacl%252B83TOVw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc) to the first one I won yesterday. A link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291093198161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) to the second one. Can you tell much about the history of these from their pics Lyndon?
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Here is a Link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Eifel-Geared-Plierench-w-Two-Jaws-Pouch-Advertising-Screwdriver-/301107094013?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=afJlMZsGs%252FqH1lNskacl%252B83TOVw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc) to the first one I won yesterday. A link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291093198161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) to the second one. Can you tell much about the history of these from their pics Lyndon?
Hi David,
The first one is the World Flight version named after the 1924 World Flight. Joseph Eifel the inventory used the World Flight to market this version of his tool. This version was made between 1923/24 and 1932. You are missing the wire jaw. FYI, I talked the seller into relisting this one. Glad to see it has a good home. This also has the E-F Angle Screwdriver which was often sold or given away with these sets. I don't have one yet so I am extremely envious....
The second one is from the second later patent. They started making them in 1932/33 and continued into the early 60's, All of the later plierench tools made by Masterform, VACO and NOPAK are modeled on this version. This is the base set with all three jaws. The expanded set comes with two additional jaws a clip and the handle lock.
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Here is a Link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Eifel-Geared-Plierench-w-Two-Jaws-Pouch-Advertising-Screwdriver-/301107094013?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=afJlMZsGs%252FqH1lNskacl%252B83TOVw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc) to the first one I won yesterday. A link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291093198161?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) to the second one. Can you tell much about the history of these from their pics Lyndon?
Hi David,
The first one is the World Flight version named after the 1924 World Flight. Joseph Eifel the inventory used the World Flight to market this version of his tool. This version was made between 1923/24 and 1932. You are missing the wire jaw. FYI, I talked the seller into relisting this one. Glad to see it has a good home. This also has the E-F Angle Screwdriver which was often sold or given away with these sets. I don't have one yet so I am extremely envious....
The second one is from the second later patent. They started making them in 1932/33 and continued into the early 60's, All of the later plierench tools made by Masterform, VACO and NOPAK are modeled on this version. This is the base set with all three jaws. The expanded set comes with two additional jaws a clip and the handle lock.
Thank you for the information. It's much appericated.
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I'm liking these old (and not so old) Plierenches. :tu:
I have one with a few different jaws and it is one seriously heavy (and heavy duty) tool.
@gregozedobe
Another club member! :salute:
The World Flight version is thicker than the later versions after 1933. This makes them much heavier.
Is yours dated (month, year) or does it have a patent date only?
I've had mine for a bit over a year now. I can't see any dates on it. The markings stamped on it are:
Eifel-Geared Plierench
81/2" - '41 -5 > 10-to-1 $5.00
>Forged Chrom-Molbdnm Alloy<
Pats. Nos. 1181654 1862817
Made in U.S.A. by -
Amer. Plierench Corp'n
Chicago. Ill.
Locks this way <
NB the ">" and "<" on the second and last lines are actually symbols of arrows with curved tails
The backside is blank except for some initials scrathed on (presumably those of a previous owner).
I have 3 jaws with it.
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Greg the 41 after the 8 1/2 is the year.
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I'm liking these old (and not so old) Plierenches. :tu:
I have one with a few different jaws and it is one seriously heavy (and heavy duty) tool.
@gregozedobe
Another club member! :salute:
The World Flight version is thicker than the later versions after 1933. This makes them much heavier.
Is yours dated (month, year) or does it have a patent date only?
I've had mine for a bit over a year now. I can't see any dates on it. The markings stamped on it are:
Eifel-Geared Plierench
81/2" - '41 -5 > 10-to-1 $5.00
>Forged Chrom-Molbdnm Alloy<
Pats. Nos. 1181654 1862817
Made in U.S.A. by -
Amer. Plierench Corp'n
Chicago. Ill.
Locks this way <
NB the ">" and "<" on the second and last lines are actually symbols of arrows with curved tails
The backside is blank except for some initials scratched on (presumably those of a previous owner).
I have 3 jaws with it.
David is correct. The 5 after the year is the month.
You have a May(5) 1941 plierench set. The backside is usually blank after around 1933 or 1934. Your guess regarding initials is probably correct. 73 years old in May this year. It saw WWII.
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Greg the 41 after the 8 1/2 is the year.
Aha, thank you (my learning experiences continue :tu: )
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I added another starter set. This is a 1933. This is the first year of the second patent.
The second photo is a comparison shot with a 1950 and the 1933.
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This is another recent Plierench acquisition. The sticker has the Masterform company name.
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A couple good additions to your colletion! 8) :)
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Nice!
So were there any big changes between 1933 and 1950?
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Nice!
So were there any big changes between 1933 and 1950?
In 1933 the tool were made in chrome molly, staring around 1950, the tools were created in the blackened metal.
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It was interesting and cool to find this site and post. Thank you.
So I have the Eifel Geared Plierench. It is the 8 1/2", dated 8 month, 1946. I have 3 jaws, which include the cutting jaw with clip. I also have the cloth case and everything is in excellent condition with little to no wear. I also have two (2) original brochure/manuals.
It is very cool tool indeed. As I am getting older and trying to downsize a bit, I am debating selling mine. I know prices vary greatly. Given that this set is a complete with the manuals, any suggestion on a value or market? Anyone interested can post or also email me.
Thank you,
Fred
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It was interesting and cool to find this site and post. Thank you.
So I have the Eifel Geared Plierench. It is the 8 1/2", dated 8 month, 1946. I have 3 jaws, which include the cutting jaw with clip. I also have the cloth case and everything is in excellent condition with little to no wear. I also have two (2) original brochure/manuals.
It is very cool tool indeed. As I am getting older and trying to downsize a bit, I am debating selling mine. I know prices vary greatly. Given that this set is a complete with the manuals, any suggestion on a value or market? Anyone interested can post or also email me.
Thank you,
Fred
Hi Fred, welcome to the forum. Nice Plierench set. :salute: Check eBay for recent prices. If you decide to sell, there are collectors here :whistle: and a sales forum ;)
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Thank you Yadda.
I will look into the sale forum. Great advice.
Price is elusive since eBay has many different condition units, and most are well "used". None have the clip or manuals. I just want it to be fair to a buyer and myself. My old friend (he would be in his 100's) bought this new in 1946 and took such good care of it. He would have liked that. I have never used it myself other than to play with it a bit.
I hope someone that collects and preserves it ends up with it. Even the two manuals are in pretty decent shape considering (they are clean).
Maybe offer the second manual to a separate collector? Don't know if those are desired much.
So I will do some research and let you all know. Thanks again. Miss the days of quality, invention, and American pride in a job well done with ones' hands!
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The manuals are collectible. I've seen them go for around $10 to $30 without the tools. The clip, case and manual make it more valuable. You also have the pipe cutter jaw which is not as common.
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Thank you. That all makes sense. I think the pipe cutter jaw is also for splitting nuts when they are stripped or frozen? All great info. I will stay in touch. Great site, thread, and thanks again
Fred
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Sent you an email Yadda. Let me know if that gets to you! Newbie Me.
Fred
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That looks like a great set Fred! I don't believe I have ever seen the pipe cutter jaw before. Those must be fairly rare. :salute:
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Thank you for posting J-sews. I think all of these probably came with a set of jaws but I don't know that answer. Problem with many old things parts get lost or tossed. Especially when an owner passes along and the next person has not a clue what they are looking at.
I too am guilty over the years of tossing things that are now rare or collectible. But then again if everyone saved everything nothing would end up rare and collectible. :)
I'll be posting my plyerench in the classifieds this week if anyone is interested look for it. That might keep me from the temptation to start using it for which it was designed. :cheers:
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So I am digging through stuff today and look what I found. Another Eifel Plyerench, but this one is much older. The Patent date is 5/2/26. 98 years ago.
Also cast into the wrench is Flashsls, Chicago (Guessing manufacturer)?
Note picture with white 'powder' was so my older eyes could read the casting in low light conditions indoors. I also took a photo of this older tool next to the 1946 era tool set I have.
Any info appreciated. Anyone looking for an older one with the early patent date let me know. Delays prevented me doing the for sale forum thing yet, but both mine are going to new homes soon I hope.
EDIT: Per Yadda's previous posts this is the "World Flight" set. I will look to see if I have other jaws to it. This one was not in a case and looks like my friend William used these much more than his newer set from 1946.
Thanks Fred
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Wow, nice find Fred. Looks like it's held up fairly well to 98 years of use. As regards the wording, mine has some apostrophes and so looks like this: FLASHS'L'S CHICAGO
Hopefully Lyndon will be along soon and tell us what the "FLASHS'L'S" means. :)
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I was wondering if it meant Flash S.L.S., The Eifel Flash? Maybe? 8)
And I think Yadda (Lyndon?) stated in posts that the "Wrold flight" model like this was produced from 1923- 1933/34?????? Probably patented 5/2/16 and took a few years to become a production item?????
Interesting to say the least! Pretty amazing tools for their time. I think man re-invents the whell over and over. :D
Fred
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Has anyone compared the Plierench to the Knipex parallel jawed pliers. I am thinking of these:
http://www.amazon.com/KNIPEX-86-03-180-SBA/dp/B005EXOK04/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1397772506&sr=8-16&keywords=knipex+pliers+wrench
They seem to have a similar action and leverage, but the jaws are not switchable of course. Basically, I am wondering if newer materials and design have benefits, but also whether the extra cost is worth it. Appreciate that the Knipex are not a vintage tool, and are not a collectible (yet!!).
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Interesting. My thoughts.
A cross between a channel lock and a cam driven jaw. I think the plyerench would be stronger and way more versatile. Also probably cheaper even though vintage, at least for a good working pair. At $54 and potential shipping that is one pricey single function plyer. Chrome moly steel like the plyerench is very strong stuff and would be expensive in today's manufacturing world.
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Wow, nice find Fred. Looks like it's held up fairly well to 98 years of use. As regards the wording, mine has some apostrophes and so looks like this: FLASHS'L'S CHICAGO
Hopefully Lyndon will be along soon and tell us what the "FLASHS'L'S" means. :)
Flash S'L'S= Flash Sales Company - Flash Sales Co was the marketing arm of the Eifel Flash Corp.
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So I am digging through stuff today and look what I found. Another Eifel Plyerench, but this one is much older. The Patent date is 5/2/26. 98 years ago.
Also cast into the wrench is Flashsls, Chicago (Guessing manufacturer)?
Note picture with white 'powder' was so my older eyes could read the casting in low light conditions indoors. I also took a photo of this older tool next to the 1946 era tool set I have.
Any info appreciated. Anyone looking for an older one with the early patent date let me know. Delays prevented me doing the for sale forum thing yet, but both mine are going to new homes soon I hope.
EDIT: Per Yadda's previous posts this is the "World Flight" set. I will look to see if I have other jaws to it. This one was not in a case and looks like my friend William used these much more than his newer set from 1946.
Thanks Fred
This a World Flight model of the Famous Plierench :D. This was manufactured with little to no change between 1924 and 1931-32. These tools do not have a production date , but they do have the original patent date of 1916. These tools are sturdy and heavy.
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Great information as usual. Now look what happened. I am falling back in love with my plyerench(s). Knowing all this history made them even more appealing.
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Great information as usual. Now look what happened. I am falling back in love with my plyerench(s). Knowing all this history made them even more appealing.
The different models, the history and the price makes them fun to collect.
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Here is some pics of the ones I've got recently.
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One more.
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One more.
Nice set!
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Here is some pics of the ones I've got recently.
Welcome to the club!
You have an E-F Angle Driver! Nice!
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Nice collection David. :)
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Thank you Lyndon and Fred. :)
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Good ones David! So what is an E-F Angle Driver? Is it the little one piece tool?
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Good ones David! So what is an E-F Angle Driver? Is it the little one piece tool?
Yes!!!
It is the predecessor of the Eifel Multitool. I didn't have one until today.... More on that later. The little one piece tool is between 75 and 90 years old!
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David, now you need a 7 inch to go with the later version 8.5's. :pok:
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David, now you need a 7 inch to go with the later version 8.5's. :pok:
I'm watching for one. But haven't scored one yet. I thinking those 7" Plierench are a really handy size but wont know for sure till I get to handle one. :)
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Here are a couple pics of the E-F Angle Screwdriver. I won one of the multitools today so will post a pic of it when it arrives. :)
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I won the clip and pouch. I wanted the clip as I didn't have one.
I got a couple questions. What is the clip for and how is it used? :think:
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And this is family photo.
Nice collection :salute:
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I won the clip and pouch. I wanted the clip as I didn't have one.
I got a couple questions. What is the clip for and how is it used? :think:
We've got to stop bidding on the same items... :D. Great purchase!!.
The clip goes over the fixed jaw when you use the pipe cutting jaw. The clip helps hold the pipe in place, tightly against the cutter.
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And this is family photo.
Nice collection :salute:
Thank you!
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I won the clip and pouch. I wanted the clip as I didn't have one.
I got a couple questions. What is the clip for and how is it used? :think:
We've got to stop bidding on the same items... :D. Great purchase!!.
The clip goes over the fixed jaw when you use the pipe cutting jaw. The clip helps hold the pipe in place, tightly against the cutter.
Sorry about that didnt know it was you or I'd of let you win it. I'll try to watch out for you better in the future. Thank you for the info on the clip.
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I won the clip and pouch. I wanted the clip as I didn't have one.
I got a couple questions. What is the clip for and how is it used? :think:
We've got to stop bidding on the same items... :D. Great purchase!!.
The clip goes over the fixed jaw when you use the pipe cutting jaw. The clip helps hold the pipe in place, tightly against the cutter.
Sorry about that didnt know it was you or I'd of let you win it. I'll try to watch out for you better in the future. Thank you for the info on the clip.
No worries. I'm just glad to see they have a good home. :tu:
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I posted these pics on the General forum Throwback Thursday convo. This is my latest purchase. 1942, April. 8.5 inches with the three standard jaws.
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Nice one Y and all three jaws! :tu:
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Nice one Y and all three jaws! :tu:
Thanks David!
I'm trying to limit my purchases to sets with multiple jaws. I have a few exceptions on my wants list, but mostly I look for the sets. It also helps limit my puchases. :D
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I got these a couple months a go. Missed a nice 7" with all three jaws and pouch. I hesitated and it was gone.
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I got these a couple months a go. Missed a nice 7" with all three jaws and pouch. I hesitated and it was gone.
Sweet sets and both with the E-F angle drivers. :tu:
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What is the document number on the brochure with the '36?
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Is this what your wanting Y?
E-G Manual of Mechanics M-6
101 illustrations
1933-1936 by Joseph Eifel. Chicago
I've added a pic for you.
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Is this what your wanting Y?
E-G Manual of Mechanics M-6
101 illustrations
1933-1936 by Joseph Eifel. Chicago
I've added a pic for you.
Exactly David. Thanks!
Need to check mine now. I believe I have this one with one small panel missing. I also have two others including the earlier staple bound version of this same document that was distributed with the World Flight version tools prior with prices for 1927 to 1928.
I believe the need to lower expenses during the depression encouraged/forced Eifel to go with a one page folded version instead of the stapled booklet.
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Bob has a scan of his M-7 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,46782.msg765706.html#msg765706) in on of your old threads.
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Definitely need to scan the World Flight version and the other document. I believe I have the M7 also. Will check tonight.
FYI: Picked up another 7 in with two jaws.
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Congrats on the 7"!
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There is a 7 out on the 'bay now with less then 8 hours left for under $30. The only issue is the tool has someone's name etched on the back. It has all three jaws and a case that is rough shape.
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Great scores guys!! :tu: I haven't added any new Plierench tools to my collection in quite some time. :-\ I must be due. :D
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My brochures are from 1927. Brochure A and Brochure C. :think: A looks similar to both M-7 and M6. Will need to look further into this just for personal eddification.
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I've only seen two of these and both were in the U.K. I was extremely unhappy when the first one was bid out of my budget zone so when this one came along 6 months later I felt lucky to be the top bidder at a price I could afford. The addition of the pipe type fittings makes this one unusual. I have never seen a Plierench in this configuration on this side of the pond. The special jaw fittings are attached with screws that can be removed with a hex wrench. The jaw is removeable. The jaw only works in one position which is the last geared slot. Other odd notes include the missing price and the missing year and month of manufacture. The style and blueing indicate a tool made most likely after WWII and definitely no later than the early 50's. The seller picked up at a boot sale. The original owner had no info. The 'bay seller I bought this from was in Merseyside. It may have some naval use? Bottom line, keep your eye out at the car boot sales, you may fid a Plierench!
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Additional photos.
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That is quite a set of jaws. Glad you finally bagged one. :tu: :)
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FANTASTIC! You must be pretty pumped about finally landing one. Congrats! :cheers:
Now wouldn't it be great to know the whole story behind these? :) (what exactly were they designed for, why were they only sent to the U.K., how many were made, etc)
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Thanks David!
Bob, you know I'm pumped! I would like to know much more about this one. Time to look for some UK tool collectors groups.
I have at least 5 more special versions on my list. Most of them I've only seen once.
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Y are there any other speciality jaws out there that you know of?
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Pic of the 7" Plierench set that arrived yesterday.
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There is a Speedwell version, Heyco version, a version with long jaws that I haven't been able to associate with any company and several versions by masterform with jaws for clamps.
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Pic of the 7" Plierench set that arrived yesterday.
Very nice!
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There is a Speedwell version, Heyco version, a version with long jaws that I haven't been able to associate with any company and several versions by masterform with jaws for clamps.
Did not realize there were that many variations. :o I hope you find them all Y.
Pic of the 7" Plierench set that arrived yesterday.
Very nice!
Thank you!
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There is a Speedwell version, Heyco version, a version with long jaws that I haven't been able to associate with any company and several versions by masterform with jaws for clamps.
Did not realize there were that many variations. :o I hope you find them all Y.
Pic of the 7" Plierench set that arrived yesterday.
Very nice!
Thank you!
There is also a Powr Kraft version that was sold in the Montomery Ward catalog. That set comes with the three regular jaws.
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I recently acquired a 1922 B version Plierench. This is one of the more rare versions. Manufacturing issues at startup were an issue for Joseph Eifel, so plierenches from 1919 to 1922 were made in smaller quantities. The 1921 and 1922 versions are dated. Starting in 1923-24 Eifel retooled and ramped up production. The "World Flight" version of the plierench was manufactured during that time until 1932-33 when Eifel using a new patent, retooled again and increased the number of available jaws from 3 to 6 and added a 7 inch tool as an option to the 8.5 inch tool. From 1923 to 1932 the tools weren't dated. Starting in 1933, the tools were dated with last two numbers of the year and the 1 or 2 digit month.
The 1922 B version is distinctive in several ways. On one side is a screw that allows the user to disasemble the plier head to replace the spring. This is one of the major indications that you have an earlier version Plierench.
The imprint running down the handles is one line wide instead of two and there is a line on both sides. On one side is "Guarant'd" on the other side is "Tool Steel". Both sides of the plier head are also imprinted, This isn't the case after 1922. Finally, the jaws are the same as on later versions. The "pipe" jaw in particular is longer than the attached jaw on the handle. This is a surprise to me. I thought all of the jaw sets matched at the top of the tool, but subsequent viewings of several 1922 B Plierenches show the pipe jaw extending slightly above the attached jaw.
Another difference in the sets is the pouch that was issued with these sets. I don't have one, from this earlier version, but I've seen one. It is a top loading canvas pouch with an additional front pocket for the additional jaws. There is a belt loop in the back, although even in the early 1900's I can't imagine too many people carried this around on their belts.
As usual my photos are rather smurfy, but you get the idea.
This tool is in great shape. It may have been cleaned, but it looks almost new with just a little surface rust on the interior portions of the pliers. For 82 years it has held up well.
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A couple of extra photos.
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Glad you found one Y. Thanks for the history! :)
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Glad you found one Y. Thanks for the history! :)
Most people on the popular auction site don't realize the difference. Viewing the photos helps to identify them. There are a couple out there right now. Let me know if you don't see them.
I was broke earlier this year when there was a 1922 B set at a really great price. I watched it cycle through three diffent auctions unpurchased. I was finally able to scrape up some funds and someone bought it the night before. :facepalm:
This takes another off my list. The '21 A is still out there somewere as well as other versions. As everyone on this site knows locating the harder to find items takes a lot of patience, time and eye fatigue.
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I went right over the bay after your earlier post and got the one with the BIN and free shipping. Thank you Y.
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I went right over the bay after your earlier post and got the one with the BIN and free shipping. Thank you Y.
Great purchase! :tu: I was watching that one too! That one has the nut jaw. It doesn't appear to have any grooves in it. Take a couple of close up photos of the jaw when you get it. I am really curious about that specific jaw since I haven't seen it before.
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My math skills are for smurf. :facepalm: I believe the correct number is 92 years. :facepalm:
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Y the Plierench B-22 came today. The jaws are smooth and thinner than normal. It looks like some one ground it down for a specific job. I also noticed the inside of the handles are different than later models.
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A couple more.
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Y the Plierench B-22 came today. The jaws are smooth and thinner than normal. It looks like some one ground it down for a specific job. I also noticed the inside of the handles are different than later models.
Nice buy! Have you been tempted to dismantle it yet?
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Yes
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Y the Plierench B-22 came today. The jaws are smooth and thinner than normal. It looks like some one ground it down for a specific job. I also noticed the inside of the handles are different than later models.
Nice buy! Have you been tempted to dismantle it yet?
Yes
I'll finish answering to your question Y since I'm home and not on Tapatalk. The spring is not working on this pair so I plan on removing the screw and having a look at it.
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You all are some real Smurfs
I'm going to try find one of these.
I was just going to collect diamond co tools and trimo pipe wrenchs but I am going to make a little room for a pliers wrench in my old tool collection drawer in my tool box.
I don't buy my old tools of evilbay
it might take a lot longer but I enjoy the hunt.
I'm with JA on this one, now I have to add one of these to my collection. Thanks Lyndon for the excellent tutorial. Very well layed out. :cheers:
Stew...
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I'll finish answering to your question Y since I'm home and not on Tapatalk. The spring is not working on this pair so I plan on removing the screw and having a look at it.
Ooooooooo.... An opportunity to use the spring jaw to make your own!
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You all are some real Smurfs
I'm going to try find one of these.
I was just going to collect diamond co tools and trimo pipe wrenchs but I am going to make a little room for a pliers wrench in my old tool collection drawer in my tool box.
I don't buy my old tools of evilbay
it might take a lot longer but I enjoy the hunt.
I'm with JA on this one, now I have to add one of these to my collection. Thanks Lyndon for the excellent tutorial. Very well layed out. :cheers:
Stew...
Happy to .... help? :D
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I'll finish answering to your question Y since I'm home and not on Tapatalk. The spring is not working on this pair so I plan on removing the screw and having a look at it.
Ooooooooo.... An opportunity to use the spring jaw to make your own!
That thought has crossed my mind Y.
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This is the 1954 extended set with 6 jaws. It also has the pipe centering jig and the bolt from the vise clamp (missing). The set comes in the large pouch with two pockets to hold the extra jaws.
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Great score there Y. That set is two years older than me! :D
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I received my World Flight Plierench set today. This one dates after December 1925 or later. This one was sold through a Canadian supplier. Really great set for a tool that is over 80 years old. It still has some of the bluing and the carry pouch is in great shape.
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Today I learned there are two different versions of the World Flight model of the Plierench. I can also show you how to tell them apart. Plierenches made from 1923/24 to November 1924 are not dated, but they have straight gears. Plierenches manufactured beginning in December 1925 through 1932 have angled gears. Interestingly enough in 1933 the new versions of the Plierench with the new patent have straight gears.
The photo below shows a pre December 1925 jaw with straight gears on the left and a post December 1925 jaw with angled gears on the right.
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Great addition to your collection Y. :salute: I have heard some talk in the past over at Papaws about the angled jaws but no explaination as to when or why. Thanks for the history and pics. :tu: :)
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Great addition to your collection Y. :salute: I have heard some talk in the past over at Papaws about the angled jaws but no explaination as to when or why. Thanks for the history and pics. :tu: :)
Thanks David! :salute: The condition of this set is what makes it great. I now have two of the angled gear sets and one of the straight gear sets. :facepalm:
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Work has been hectic so some of my personal documentation has gone to the side. I saw this version of the Plierench on the popular auction site and grabbed a screen shot of the head for posterity and to add to my search list. My bankroll is kind of flat at the moment and the price was a little more than I wanted to pay so someone else owns it.
I believe this is a Heyco branded Plierench. The H in front of the year and the special strain relief jaws are pretty good indicators. This was new to me. I haven't seen this tool in an 8 inch version before now.
I have a recently acquired 7 inch Heyco Plierench which I will try to document later this week.
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This is my most recent Plierench purchase. This is a 7 inch Heyco branded plierench for strainrelief couplings. The small metal band is to prevent the jaw from sliding out. Many of the Heyco plierenches I've seen are missing this band. This was another of the notches in my want list. It also comes in an 8.5 inch version that remains on my list.
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Glad you won that one Y. :)
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Thanks David,
I owe it all to clean living and imminent bankruptcy.
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Hello I just joined I found this site when I was researching a set of plierwrench that I inherited from my granddad about 10 years ago they are pretty cool I have 5 separate jaws one looks like it is for cutting tubing says 8 1/2 49 then 6$ on it any ideas on how old it is thanks
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Another image
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One more
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Hello I just joined I found this site when I was researching a set of plierwrench that I inherited from my granddad about 10 years ago they are pretty cool I have 5 separate jaws one looks like it is for cutting tubing says 8 1/2 49 then 6$ on it any ideas on how old it is thanks
It was made in 1949. Great Plierwrench set! :)
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Hello I just joined I found this site when I was researching a set of plierwrench that I inherited from my granddad about 10 years ago they are pretty cool I have 5 separate jaws one looks like it is for cutting tubing says 8 1/2 49 then 6$ on it any ideas on how old it is thanks
Yep! February, 1949. Nice set! Great condition. The long jaw can be inserted from either side to separate or plier. The cutter is for pipe cutting. There should be a v-clip to go with the pipe cutter jaw.
It was made in 1949. Great Plierwrench set! :)
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More additions to the collection.
The red handled plierench is a May 1962, Plierench inc. '62 was a really great year! In addition to being a Chinese Tiger year, it was also the year I was born.
The lower black handled plierench is a Montgomery Ward, Powr-Kraft branded plierench. This was on my on my most wanted list!
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Here is my collection of plierenche's.
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Here is my collection of plierenche's.
Nice collection!
Welcome to the forums!
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Thanks this is right up my alley.
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Great additions to your collection Y! :tu:
Howdy and 8) collection jhicks!
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I recently acquired a 1922 B version Plierench......
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47985.0;attach=128047;image)
I'm just now getting caught up on this thread...some nice plierench variations you guys are finding, Congrats! :cheers: Hey next time anybody sees one of those with the disassembly screw on the side for sale, please let me know? Thanks! :)
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I recently acquired a 1922 B version Plierench......
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=47985.0;attach=128047;image)
I'm just now getting caught up on this thread...some nice plierench variations you guys are finding, Congrats! :cheers: Hey next time anybody sees one of those with the disassembly screw on the side for sale, please let me know? Thanks! :)
Will do, but you realize there are two different versions the 21A and the 22B.... :pok: You may need both.... :D
The 21A is the rarer IMHO. I don't have one and I haven't seen many.
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Will do, but you realize there are two different versions the 21A and the 22B.... :pok: You may need both.... :D
The 21A is the rarer IMHO. I don't have one and I haven't seen many.
:facepalm: Dang-it.
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I have a couple of them. They are a delight to use. I finally found one with extra jaws but only a couple were in the pouch. The group shot on the first page is amazing, I had no idea....
:drool:
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I have a couple of them. They are a delight to use. I finally found one with extra jaws but only a couple were in the pouch. The group shot on the first page is amazing, I had no idea....
:drool:
Pony up a photo!
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(http://i.imgur.com/XRuJu0p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gfEDPGM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CPPFonS.jpg)
ebay image of better pouch imprint -
(http://i.imgur.com/9EtYbjC.jpg)
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Yard sale purchase on this one, cannot find my other one at the moment -
(http://i.imgur.com/XRuJu0p.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gfEDPGM.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CPPFonS.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/9EtYbjC.jpg)
World Flight Set. Nice buy!
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Good looking set!
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It appears I have put a line through another on my wants list. I just purchased a 1921 A plierench. This is the early 8 inch (not 8.5 inch) with smooth handles.
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I found a set with 2 pliers heads and case for 100.00
I passed.
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I found a set with 2 pliers heads and case for 100.00
I passed.
As well you should.
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I found a set with 2 pliers heads and case for 100.00
I passed.
As well you should.
The case and tool where in very nice shape. To nice
I think they cleaned them up.
It was cool to see one.
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It appears I have put a line through another on my wants list. I just purchased a 1921 A plierench. This is the early 8 inch (not 8.5 inch) with smooth handles.
8) Cannt wait to see some pics of it. :)
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It appears I have put a line through another on my wants list. I just purchased a 1921 A plierench. This is the early 8 inch (not 8.5 inch) with smooth handles.
8) Cannt wait to see some pics of it. :)
Will do. :cheers:
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A new set. An early 70's Masterform Plierench set with the plastic pouch.
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I recently bought this unusual plierench on the 'bay.
It is a Masterform plierench circa 1970's.
It appears to have been adapted by Masterform to cut strapping material?
First one like this I've ever seen and with a push from a friend down under, I made the plunge.
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First one like this I've ever seen and with a push from a friend down under, I made the plunge.
I must protest this outrageous slander on my good name ! It was a teeny tiny nudge, at most :pok: :D ;)
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First one like this I've ever seen and with a push from a friend down under, I made the plunge.
I must protest this outrageous slander on my good name ! It was a teeny tiny nudge, at most :pok: :D ;)
With a really sharp stick over 2,000 miles long.... :rofl:
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Good addition Y! Glad you have it in your collection.
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My latest addition to my Plierench collection.
A five piece VACO Deluxe Plierench Kit.
It is dirty, but otherwise great shape. I don't think it was ever used.
Manufactured in the '70's by Masterform for VACO, the Plierench set comes with four jaws.
The kit model number is 86071. The wrench model number is 86070.
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This has been on my want list for a while and it is a great find. This is a Powr-Kraft branded Plierench set. Practically new old stock. This tool is approximately 40 years old.
Note the advertising on the back of the pouch: WHY Plierench is a super tool.
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Great score there Y! :tu: I'm guessing your really pleased with it. :)
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Great score there Y! :tu: I'm guessing your really pleased with it. :)
You know it! :D :cheers:
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Congrats L! Wow that looks stunning. Someone must have bought it and then basically forgot about it. Which is highly unusual for Plierenches. Pretty much all the ones I've seen have had a lifetime of good honest usage. :salute:
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Congrats L! Wow that looks stunning. Someone must have bought it and then basically forgot about it. Which is highly unusual for Plierenches. Pretty much all the ones I've seen have had a lifetime of good honest usage. :salute:
Thanks Bob!
The listing (which can be taken with a grain of salt at times) stated it was a wife selling her deceased husband's tool collection. I checked the other listing for the seller. Didn't look like so much of a collection as it did a workshop sell out. I suspect he bought this on sale and then stuck it in a drawer and forgot about it. This set may get stuffed and mounted. :D
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That one is definitely display-worthy. :salute:
Unlike this one, which you no doubt saw for sale recently. ::) The poor thing, somebody really butchered it. :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20III/Modified%20Eifel_zpsivqcaahi.jpg)
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That one is definitely display-worthy. :salute:
Unlike this one, which you no doubt saw for sale recently. ::) The poor thing, somebody really butchered it. :P
I missed this one completely. What a monster! Not the best mod I've ever seen. Ebay?
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A quick pic of a couple of 1921 A Plierenches.
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Nice!
So was there a 7" model available back in 1921? ???
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Nice!
So was there a 7" model available back in 1921? ???
No, the 7 inch was introduced in 1932-33 with the new patent design.
The 21A. Is the 8 inch version with the smooth handle. All others are 8.5 inches after 1921.
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Those are cool Y :tu:
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Those are cool Y :tu:
Thanks! This is the model with smooth handles and the acess screw. I still haven't gotten up the courage to disassemble one.
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Nice!
So was there a 7" model available back in 1921? ???
No, the 7 inch was introduced in 1932-33 with the new patent design.
The 21A. Is the 8 inch version with the smooth handle. All others are 8.5 inches after 1921.
Whoa! Wait a minute here, did I know about that version?? :think: You probably told me about it three times, but I forgot. :P
So those 21A's are a half-inch shorter than mine (below) and have smooth handles?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20III/Eifel-Flash%20Plierench%208.5-inch%20Model%20B%20700_zpsctqunyrv.jpg)
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Nice!
So was there a 7" model available back in 1921? ???
No, the 7 inch was introduced in 1932-33 with the new patent design.
The 21A. Is the 8 inch version with the smooth handle. All others are 8.5 inches after 1921.
Whoa! Wait a minute here, did I know about that version?? :think: You probably told me about it three times, but I forgot. :P
So those 21A's are a half-inch shorter than mine (below) and have smooth handles?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/jooliesews/Bobbys/Bobbys%20III/Eifel-Flash%20Plierench%208.5-inch%20Model%20B%20700_zpsctqunyrv.jpg)
Yep, A whole half inch shorter. I'll throw a rule on a couple of pics this weekend and some side by side shots.
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Recently acquired 7 inch plierench set from 1944. This one appears to have seen a wire wheel for cleaning, but it wasn't a hack job so no complaints. Manufactured during WWII, this tool probably has some stories to tell. Seventy-two years young and still solid.
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Nice! :) TBH, the 7-incher fits my hands a lot better than the 8-1/2 incher.
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Great score Y!
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1922 "B" plierench set. The pouch has a belt loop on the back. Eifel's advertising said buyers could make their money back on the purchase by standing on street corners and waiting for opportunities to repair cars. Not bad for 94 years old.
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Not bad is an understatement! Congrats on a great score there L! :cheers: I'll bet there aren't too many of those left around these days, especially with the original pouch. Is it in as good of condition as it appears? :)
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Is it in as good of condition as it appears? :)
The spring is still strong. The screw driver tip is chipped. It still works great. The writing on the pouch is still legible.
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I picked up a Heyco branded strain relief plierench. 1958 with the H before the date. It is not priced. It has most of the sticker. The spring is on the outside. This is in contrast to the 1948 Heyco. It has an internal spring and pricing with no H.
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Other side
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Another great addition to your awesome collection Y! :like:
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I knocked another one off the list. This a G. H. NoPak Inc. Plierench.
They are the current manufacturers of Plierench. Not as well finished as the earlier models from other manufacturers.
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Congrats on the NoPak! I will probably have some questions for you on that one, but first...
Let's go back to the Heyco. So am I to understand that the 1948 version had an internal spring, but the 1958 version has an external spring?? Why on earth does it have an external spring? Seems like it would be prone to snagging on stuff and coming loose, etc?? ???
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Congrats on the NoPak! I will probably have some questions for you on that one, but first...
Let's go back to the Heyco. So am I to understand that the 1948 version had an internal spring, but the 1958 version has an external spring?? Why on earth does it have an external spring? Seems like it would be prone to snagging on stuff and coming loose, etc?? ???
Hi Bob,
No idea, possibly cheap manufacturing or maybe to make it easier to replace broken springs? ??? I have seen a few for sale with extra springs. Considering they are strain relief fasteners the possibility of snags probably isn't that bad, but losing the springs would have to be an issue. Happy to answer questions if possible. :)
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Hmm, the external spring still seems odd. Also, back on the Heyco, what's with that sheet metal guard or whatever it is in front of the wire cutter notch? ???
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Hmm, the external spring still seems odd. Also, back on the Heyco, what's with that sheet metal guard or whatever it is in front of the wire cutter notch? ???
The guard is made of thin spring metal. It pops off. It is there to prevent the jaws from opening all the way and to prevent jaw removal. It fits in the slot that has the pin that moves back and forth when the jaws open. I don't really understand why it is needed since the Heyco strain relief jaws including the solid jaw are unique so you can't really use them for anything else. You would never remove the jaw to do anything, except maybe to replace it or straighten it.
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Ah, that makes sense (kind of). I was thinking it was to prevent use of the wire cutter, but I couldn't understand why. :P :)
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I've been looking at one as something I would use regularly and keep in the plier pocket of my carpenter's jeans. Being better at being used as a wrench than my old Vise Grips (which, like LMS always round off the heads of fasteners) and locking really appeals to me. Used ones (without the extra jaws) are really cheap.
Think it would stand up to farm use?
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I've been looking at one as something I would use regularly and keep in the plier pocket of my carpenter's jeans. Being better at being used as a wrench than my old Vise Grips (which, like LMS always round off the heads of fasteners) and locking really appeals to me. Used ones (without the extra jaws) are really cheap.
Think it would stand up to farm use?
Yes, the 8.5 version is heavy duty.
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Perform a search on the word Plierench using Google. It may just be me, but this posted String is the first link. :cheers:
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It's not just you mate. :tu: :tu:
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Pretty cool to be at the top of the search list.
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Okay, I'll start out by saying I am a Plierench collector. I have Leathermans, a SAK, lots of knockoffs, a complete set of Re:Solves and Swiss+Tech, but nothing beats the Plierench for sheer collectability. The selling points for collecting plierenchs:
1 - Easy to locate - fleabay and other places have them all the time
2 - Affordability - any price range from $5 to $100, but most can be bought for under $20 US.
3 - Variety - With 4 different manufacturers, multiple patents, at least 4 styles, 2 sizes and multiple jaws for different tasks including plumbing, pipecutting and welding. You can't ask for more when it comes to collecting. In addition, starting in 1933, they started dating them. You can actually see the month and year on most versions made through the early 1960's.
4. Usability - Still very useful. Some people gripe about pinching, but they are using the tool incorrectly. The tool also locks to hold items like a vise.
5. Rarity - The A and B versions are rare. Some are even famous. If you could lay your hands on one of the tools that took the 1924 World Flight with documented provenance, it would be very expensive.
6. Merchandising - In addition there is the Eifel Multool - two versions one with a round hole (have only seen pictures and one with a nail puller hole. lots of booklets and handouts and sales demos if you can find them. There is also the extremely rare Eifel geared pivot pliers.
7. Unique - Although there are geared pliers out there today, Knipex and Heyco in particular, they don't compare to the Plierench.
8. Continuity - The tool has been manufactured steadily since around 1923.
I have a modest collection. I will take photos and start posting them this weekend.
Yadda, I've been using Plierenches, since I was about 12 years old.
(That would be 1970.)
Today, I saw a strange looking pair on FleeBay. So, I looked here.
World Flight pair, and 26 dollars shipped.
So, had to join here and brag.
steve
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Okay, I'll start out by saying I am a Plierench collector. I have Leathermans, a SAK, lots of knockoffs, a complete set of Re:Solves and Swiss+Tech, but nothing beats the Plierench for sheer collectability. The selling points for collecting plierenchs:
1 - Easy to locate - fleabay and other places have them all the time
2 - Affordability - any price range from $5 to $100, but most can be bought for under $20 US.
3 - Variety - With 4 different manufacturers, multiple patents, at least 4 styles, 2 sizes and multiple jaws for different tasks including plumbing, pipecutting and welding. You can't ask for more when it comes to collecting. In addition, starting in 1933, they started dating them. You can actually see the month and year on most versions made through the early 1960's.
4. Usability - Still very useful. Some people gripe about pinching, but they are using the tool incorrectly. The tool also locks to hold items like a vise.
5. Rarity - The A and B versions are rare. Some are even famous. If you could lay your hands on one of the tools that took the 1924 World Flight with documented provenance, it would be very expensive.
6. Merchandising - In addition there is the Eifel Multool - two versions one with a round hole (have only seen pictures and one with a nail puller hole. lots of booklets and handouts and sales demos if you can find them. There is also the extremely rare Eifel geared pivot pliers.
7. Unique - Although there are geared pliers out there today, Knipex and Heyco in particular, they don't compare to the Plierench.
8. Continuity - The tool has been manufactured steadily since around 1923.
I have a modest collection. I will take photos and start posting them this weekend.
Yadda, I've been using Plierenches, since I was about 12 years old.
(That would be 1970.)
Today, I saw a strange looking pair on FleeBay. So, I looked here.
World Flight pair, and 26 dollars shipped.
So, had to join here and brag.
steve
Welcome Steve! The 'bay is a great place to find Plierenches. The World Flight version is the quintessential version. Joseph Eifel at his design and marketing best. Later versions had more options, but they aren't as aesthetically pleasing or as heavy as the Worl Flight and earlier models.
Do you have all the jaws? Photos?
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This one appears to have a chain breaker tool on it, but I think $85 is high.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plierench-Eifel-Flash-pat-good-condition-early-piece-vintage-tool-antique-/201953927427?hash=item2f05646103:g:bTYAAOSwbtVZPx24
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Okay, I'll start out by saying I am a Plierench collector. I have Leathermans, a SAK, lots of knockoffs, a complete set of Re:Solves and Swiss+Tech, but nothing beats the Plierench for sheer collectability. The selling points for collecting plierenchs:
1 - Easy to locate - fleabay and other places have them all the time
2 - Affordability - any price range from $5 to $100, but most can be bought for under $20 US.
3 - Variety - With 4 different manufacturers, multiple patents, at least 4 styles, 2 sizes and multiple jaws for different tasks including plumbing, pipecutting and welding. You can't ask for more when it comes to collecting. In addition, starting in 1933, they started dating them. You can actually see the month and year on most versions made through the early 1960's.
4. Usability - Still very useful. Some people gripe about pinching, but they are using the tool incorrectly. The tool also locks to hold items like a vise.
5. Rarity - The A and B versions are rare. Some are even famous. If you could lay your hands on one of the tools that took the 1924 World Flight with documented provenance, it would be very expensive.
6. Merchandising - In addition there is the Eifel Multool - two versions one with a round hole (have only seen pictures and one with a nail puller hole. lots of booklets and handouts and sales demos if you can find them. There is also the extremely rare Eifel geared pivot pliers.
7. Unique - Although there are geared pliers out there today, Knipex and Heyco in particular, they don't compare to the Plierench.
8. Continuity - The tool has been manufactured steadily since around 1923.
I have a modest collection. I will take photos and start posting them this weekend.
Yadda, I've been using Plierenches, since I was about 12 years old.
(That would be 1970.)
Today, I saw a strange looking pair on FleeBay. So, I looked here.
World Flight pair, and 26 dollars shipped.
So, had to join here and brag.
steve
Welcome Steve! The 'bay is a great place to find Plierenches. The World Flight version is the quintessential version. Joseph Eifel at his design and marketing best. Later versions had more options, but they aren't as aesthetically pleasing or as heavy as the Worl Flight and earlier models.
Do you have all the jaws? Photos?
No, just the main jaw.
The World Flight, would that be the Douglas World Flight?
I think I'm the king of multi-tools.
Swiss Army (Victorinox) knife.
Shopsmith 10ER.
and Plierenches.
steve
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Okay, I'll start out by saying I am a Plierench collector. I have Leathermans, a SAK, lots of knockoffs, a complete set of Re:Solves and Swiss+Tech, but nothing beats the Plierench for sheer collectability. The selling points for collecting plierenchs:
1 - Easy to locate - fleabay and other places have them all the time
2 - Affordability - any price range from $5 to $100, but most can be bought for under $20 US.
3 - Variety - With 4 different manufacturers, multiple patents, at least 4 styles, 2 sizes and multiple jaws for different tasks including plumbing, pipecutting and welding. You can't ask for more when it comes to collecting. In addition, starting in 1933, they started dating them. You can actually see the month and year on most versions made through the early 1960's.
4. Usability - Still very useful. Some people gripe about pinching, but they are using the tool incorrectly. The tool also locks to hold items like a vise.
5. Rarity - The A and B versions are rare. Some are even famous. If you could lay your hands on one of the tools that took the 1924 World Flight with documented provenance, it would be very expensive.
6. Merchandising - In addition there is the Eifel Multool - two versions one with a round hole (have only seen pictures and one with a nail puller hole. lots of booklets and handouts and sales demos if you can find them. There is also the extremely rare Eifel geared pivot pliers.
7. Unique - Although there are geared pliers out there today, Knipex and Heyco in particular, they don't compare to the Plierench.
8. Continuity - The tool has been manufactured steadily since around 1923.
I have a modest collection. I will take photos and start posting them this weekend.
Yadda, I've been using Plierenches, since I was about 12 years old.
(That would be 1970.)
Today, I saw a strange looking pair on FleeBay. So, I looked here.
World Flight pair, and 26 dollars shipped.
So, had to join here and brag.
steve
Welcome Steve! The 'bay is a great place to find Plierenches. The World Flight version is the quintessential version. Joseph Eifel at his design and marketing best. Later versions had more options, but they aren't as aesthetically pleasing or as heavy as the Worl Flight and earlier models.
Do you have all the jaws? Photos?
No, just the main jaw.
The World Flight, would that be the Douglas World Flight?
I think I'm the king of multi-tools.
Swiss Army (Victorinox) knife.
Shopsmith 10ER.
and Plierenches.
steve
Yep, one in the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_aerial_circumnavigation :D
You certainly have some of the best examples of the most versatile multi tools. :salute:
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This one appears to have a chain breaker tool on it, but I think $85 is high.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plierench-Eifel-Flash-pat-good-condition-early-piece-vintage-tool-antique-/201953927427?hash=item2f05646103:g:bTYAAOSwbtVZPx24
Yeah, I saw that one too. I agree. It is unusual, but it isn't $85 unusual.
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I think I'm the king of multi-tools.
Swiss Army (Victorinox) knife.
Shopsmith 10ER.
and Plierenches.
steve
OK, let me enumerate.
1 Swiss Army knife.
6 Shopsmiths, 5 model 10.
one the old MkVII
Plierenches, currently mine. 3.
And 3 more that I STILL need
to send to Keith Rucker.
(Vintage Machinery dot com.)
Great site, look him up.
(let's see if my mad posting skills
are still good. It appears that they are.)
steve
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My latest acquisition. 1949 Plierench with modified jaws. I'm not sure how this one was used. It appears to be made for piercing tubing?
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OK, found another use for the newer models.
(Anything with straight cut gear teeth,)
Install the LONG jaw, the one that goes in
both ways. You can use it for compressing
wheel calipers, when doing a brake job.
One heck of a lot quicker, than the C-clamp.
OK my Plierenches are NOT on display,
but in my tools, and used.
steve
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OK, found another use for the newer models.
(Anything with straight cut gear teeth,)
Install the LONG jaw, the one that goes in
both ways. You can use it for compressing
wheel calipers, when doing a brake job.
One heck of a lot quicker, than the C-clamp.
OK my Plierenches are NOT on display,
but in my tools, and used.
steve
Wow!
What a great use. I will definitely give this a try. Thanks for sharing.
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Gentleman and Ladies and the rest of you guys, I give you what I consider to be the Holy Grail of plierenches. The Eifel Geared-Pivot 1000% Plierench...and its mine!
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Saw you won it. 8) :tu: Glad you now have it in hand! :woohoo: Congrulations!!! :hatsoff:
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Saw you won it. 8) :tu: Glad you now have it in hand! :woohoo: Congrulations!!! :hatsoff:
Thanks David! :D
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hi, just found this site. I recently got one of these tools at a Restore for $1 its 7 1/2" long has price stamped in it of $4.50 no date and 2 Pat numbers 1181654 , 1882817 and jaws have V notch in both. wire cutter slot, screw driver on end of 1 handle what year was mine made? its in very good cond just a bit of rust on surface that cleans off easy. what do the numbers mean 7"-45-10_8 to1
Thanks! Mitch
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This one appears to have a chain breaker tool on it, but I think $85 is high.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plierench-Eifel-Flash-pat-good-condition-early-piece-vintage-tool-antique-/201953927427?hash=item2f05646103:g:bTYAAOSwbtVZPx24
for bicycle or chainsaw chains and what size I wonder?
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My latest acquisition. 1949 Plierench with modified jaws. I'm not sure how this one was used. It appears to be made for piercing tubing?
likely for putting a tap on refrigerator lines to connect guage hose to. as many such tools where made for the field.
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My latest acquisition. 1949 Plierench with modified jaws. I'm not sure how this one was used. It appears to be made for piercing tubing?
likely for putting a tap on refrigerator lines to connect guage hose to. as many such tools where made for the field.
I could see that.
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I saw a lot of 2 8 1/2s that were selling for the price of one ($20 shipped) on Ebay that was ending in an hour, so I bought them. One's going to need some work to the spring, the other's been whacked on. I'll likely keep one for myself, then give my granddad the other. Got any advice on how to fix the messed up spring?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vXYAAOSwY99Zi0bI/s-l1600.jpg)
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I saw a lot of 2 8 1/2s that were selling for the price of one ($20 shipped) on Ebay that was ending in an hour, so I bought them. One's going to need some work to the spring, the other's been whacked on. I'll likely keep one for myself, then give my granddad the other. Got any advice on how to fix the messed up spring?
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vXYAAOSwY99Zi0bI/s-l1600.jpg)
One of the many uses for plierenches is emergency hammer. :facepalm:
I may have a diagram on how the spring is configured. I'll check and get back to you in a few days.
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hi, just found this site. I recently got one of these tools at a Restore for $1 its 7 1/2" long has price stamped in it of $4.50 no date and 2 Pat numbers 1181654 , 1882817 and jaws have V notch in both. wire cutter slot, screw driver on end of 1 handle what year was mine made? its in very good cond just a bit of rust on surface that cleans off easy. what do the numbers mean 7"-45-10_8 to1
Thanks! Mitch
Mitch, these (7"-45-10_8 to1) numbers mean;
7" (7 inches.) 43-10 October of 45. 8 to 1, is
the ratio of movement. 1/8 movement would
be 1 inch at the end of the handles. The 8.5
model is 10 to 1.
steve
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OK, just saw an Ebay sale that had an 8.5, and a 7
inch, with 9 jaws, (wire, pipe cutter, another wire,
large pipe, reverse, 2 small pipe, and 2 regular jaws.
Also had the clamp fixture, as well as the pipe cutter
V piece.)
$65 at Ebay. (Well, it WAS at Ebay. Now on its way
to MY humble abode.)
Couldn't pass it up!
My question; will all the jaws fit in either Plierench?
(I've never had the 7 inch, in fact, never even SEEN
one.)
steve
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OK, just saw an Ebay sale that had an 8.5, and a 7
inch, with 9 jaws, (wire, pipe cutter, another wire,
large pipe, reverse, 2 small pipe, and 2 regular jaws.
Also had the clamp fixture, as well as the pipe cutter
V piece.)
$65 at Ebay. (Well, it WAS at Ebay. Now on its way
to MY humble abode.)
Couldn't pass it up!
My question; will all the jaws fit in either Plierench?
(I've never had the 7 inch, in fact, never even SEEN
one.)
steve
Nice buy! If I'm not mistaken they may be a matched set. They were both made in 1949. I'm not sure if the months match.
The larger jaws generally don't fit the 7 inch. The 7 inch jaws are slightly smaller, although there is an exception. I believe the wire jaw will fit both.
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I went back and looked, the only
info I saw, was pictures of the
8.5 inch model.
Well, there was the one upside
down.
steve
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OK, everything showed up today.
8.5, April 1949. 7, January 1949.
Most of the extra jaws look to be
unused.
I've seen Plierenches, since I was 12.
the 7 inch one, well the only way to
describe it, is "cute." Never seen one
before today.
I'm surprised by how well these look.
Best I've personally seen.
Now, fitting. All of the extra jaws will
go into the 8.5 tool, and some of them
will work there. None of the 8.5 jaws will
fit the 7 incher. The "reverse" jaw doesn't
have that groove that lines up with the angle
grooves on the fixed jaw, when used backwards.
Over all, I'm a happy camper!
steve
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OK, everything showed up today.
8.5, April 1949. 7, January 1949.
Most of the extra jaws look to be
unused.
I've seen Plierenches, since I was 12.
the 7 inch one, well the only way to
describe it, is "cute." Never seen one
before today.
I'm surprised by how well these look.
Best I've personally seen.
Now, fitting. All of the extra jaws will
go into the 8.5 tool, and some of them
will work there. None of the 8.5 jaws will
fit the 7 incher. The "reverse" jaw doesn't
have that groove that lines up with the angle
grooves on the fixed jaw, when used backwards.
Over all, I'm a happy camper!
steve
:tu: :cheers:
Did you get a chance to look at the dates on both tools? Are they a matched set?
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"8.5, April 1949. 7, January 1949."
(Quoting me, above.)
Yes, that was a bit cryptic.
the 8 and a half is from April,
the 7 inch is January.
steve
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"8.5, April 1949. 7, January 1949."
(Quoting me, above.)
Yes, that was a bit cryptic.
the 8 and a half is from April,
the 7 inch is January.
steve
Naw, I just missed it. Thank you for posting it again. Darn close dates. Probably sold together considering the dates. Most people split the sets to sell them.
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OK, am I the only one who has used a Plierench,
as an implement of bashing?
I've been doing that since 1972 or so.
No, it hasn't hurt the tool(s.)
I think I could beat through a cinder block,
without doing much damage.
Oh, still want to get another "cute" 7 inch
model.
steve
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"Oh, still want to get another "cute" 7 inch
model."
Second one arrived today. Just as cute.
steve
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OK, am I the only one who has used a Plierench,
as an implement of bashing?
I've been doing that since 1972 or so.
No, it hasn't hurt the tool(s.)
I think I could beat through a cinder block,
without doing much damage.
Oh, still want to get another "cute" 7 inch
model.
steve
A lot of them have dings because they were used to bang on something. They can be broken. I have a broken one sent to me as a gift from Bob. Some one was using it to wail on something a lot harder.
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"Oh, still want to get another "cute" 7 inch
model."
Second one arrived today. Just as cute.
steve
There is a 7 inch set with the canvas bag recently listed on the 'bay.
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"Oh, still want to get another "cute" 7 inch
model."
Second one arrived today. Just as cute.
steve
There is a 7 inch set with the canvas bag recently listed on the 'bay.
3 jaws? White (well, started out white) bag?
Looks like someone took emery cloth to the sides?
If so, it's gone. Some guy in Arizona got it. :D
steve in Arizona
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I recently acquired a 1922 B version Plierench. This is one of the more rare versions. Manufacturing issues at startup were an issue for Joseph Eifel, so plierenches from 1919 to 1922 were made in smaller quantities. The 1921 and 1922 versions are dated. Starting in 1923-24 Eifel retooled and ramped up production. The "World Flight" version of the plierench was manufactured during that time until 1932-33 when Eifel using a new patent, retooled again and increased the number of available jaws from 3 to 6 and added a 7 inch tool as an option to the 8.5 inch tool. From 1923 to 1932 the tools weren't dated. Starting in 1933, the tools were dated with last two numbers of the year and the 1 or 2 digit month.
The 1922 B version is distinctive in several ways. On one side is a screw that allows the user to disasemble the plier head to replace the spring. This is one of the major indications that you have an earlier version Plierench.
The imprint running down the handles is one line wide instead of two and there is a line on both sides. On one side is "Guarant'd" on the other side is "Tool Steel". Both sides of the plier head are also imprinted, This isn't the case after 1922. Finally, the jaws are the same as on later versions. The "pipe" jaw in particular is longer than the attached jaw on the handle. This is a surprise to me. I thought all of the jaw sets matched at the top of the tool, but subsequent viewings of several 1922 B Plierenches show the pipe jaw extending slightly above the attached jaw.
Another difference in the sets is the pouch that was issued with these sets. I don't have one, from this earlier version, but I've seen one. It is a top loading canvas pouch with an additional front pocket for the additional jaws. There is a belt loop in the back, although even in the early 1900's I can't imagine too many people carried this around on their belts.
As usual my photos are rather smurfy, but you get the idea.
This tool is in great shape. It may have been cleaned, but it looks almost new with just a little surface rust on the interior portions of the pliers. For 82 years it has held up well.
There WAS another of these on the "bay."
Notice the "was?"
$18, and $7 shipping
Yadda, will later jaws fit this one?
This will be my ONLY "collection" plierench.
All the others are tools, and will be treated
as such.
steve
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I recently acquired a 1922 B version Plierench. This is one of the more rare versions. Manufacturing issues at startup were an issue for Joseph Eifel, so plierenches from 1919 to 1922 were made in smaller quantities. The 1921 and 1922 versions are dated. Starting in 1923-24 Eifel retooled and ramped up production. The "World Flight" version of the plierench was manufactured during that time until 1932-33 when Eifel using a new patent, retooled again and increased the number of available jaws from 3 to 6 and added a 7 inch tool as an option to the 8.5 inch tool. From 1923 to 1932 the tools weren't dated. Starting in 1933, the tools were dated with last two numbers of the year and the 1 or 2 digit month.
The 1922 B version is distinctive in several ways. On one side is a screw that allows the user to disasemble the plier head to replace the spring. This is one of the major indications that you have an earlier version Plierench.
The imprint running down the handles is one line wide instead of two and there is a line on both sides. On one side is "Guarant'd" on the other side is "Tool Steel". Both sides of the plier head are also imprinted, This isn't the case after 1922. Finally, the jaws are the same as on later versions. The "pipe" jaw in particular is longer than the attached jaw on the handle. This is a surprise to me. I thought all of the jaw sets matched at the top of the tool, but subsequent viewings of several 1922 B Plierenches show the pipe jaw extending slightly above the attached jaw.
Another difference in the sets is the pouch that was issued with these sets. I don't have one, from this earlier version, but I've seen one. It is a top loading canvas pouch with an additional front pocket for the additional jaws. There is a belt loop in the back, although even in the early 1900's I can't imagine too many people carried this around on their belts.
As usual my photos are rather smurfy, but you get the idea.
This tool is in great shape. It may have been cleaned, but it looks almost new with just a little surface rust on the interior portions of the pliers. For 82 years it has held up well.
There WAS another of these on the "bay."
Notice the "was?"
$18, and $7 shipping
Yadda, will later jaws fit this one?
This will be my ONLY "collection" plierench.
All the others are tools, and will be treated
as such.
steve
Hi Steve, Great buy! I saw that one. Later jaws do not fit the 21 and 22 models. Now you need a 21A. It is an 8 incher with smooth handles.
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Got the 22-B today, here's an interesting tidbit.
7 inch accessory jaws (wire and pipe) will fit.
steve
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I saw on another forum a letter from Mr Eifel as an example of a rude (depression era) correspondence.
In that letter Mr. Eifel talks about a plierench "demonstrating block and ball" and asks that it be returned.
I have a demo block and ball in my modest plierench collection. Pictured below is the demo block the "ball" is visible attached to the top of the block. I can post a better picture if anyone is interested.
I've never seen another one.
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I saw on another forum a letter from Mr Eifel as an example of a rude (depression era) correspondence.
In that letter Mr. Eifel talks about a plierench "demonstrating block and ball" and asks that it be returned.
I have a demo block and ball in my modest plierench collection. Pictured below is the demo block the "ball" is visible attached to the top of the block. I can post a better picture if anyone is interested.
I've never seen another one.
Wow! Cap you've been holding out on me!. This is the first separate block I have seen. I have seen a sales kit box on the 'bay. It was missing the brass corners and other bits. It went for way more than it was worth to me for the fair condition. How are the bolt heads held in place? What is the difference in the bottom two bolt heads? Additional pictures would be great!
I've seen the letter before. Eifel was a salesman at heart. Having his business survive the Great Depression, it appears he was driven to hustle for every sale possible.
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Yadda - I've never tinkered with it. My father was a plierench fan big time he had several of them in the 1950s. I remember seeing this block and him telling me it was for demonstrating plierench uses. It was in beautiful condition back then with a shiny chrome ball on top... It seemed odd because I thought putting the tool to it would scratch it. I'll look at it closer and take some pictures.
OK I have pictures now. The middle one is a big nut & bolt through the wood. The ones on either side are screwed into holes threaded in the wood. The chrome ball is brazed onto a brass(?) pipe inserted into a hole with a set-screw through the threaded wood and into a (threaded) hole in the pipe.
I can't imagine what the ball is supposed to demonstrate except for an interesting way to insert and turn the pipe to line up with the threaded hole in the wood. I used to wonder if the plierench was to grip the ball and turn, but obviously not with a set-screw in it.
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It seems like a overly simplified demo piece, but actually when you hold the block in one hand it demonstrates the parallel jaws of the plierench quite well they probably carried a "regular" pliers to show the contrast. Another element of the demonstration, I think, was to fold a (copper) penny in half and half again something almost impossible with a common pliers.
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It seems like a overly simplified demo piece, but actually when you hold the block in one hand it demonstrates the parallel jaws of the plierench quite well they probably carried a "regular" pliers to show the contrast. Another element of the demonstration, I think, was to fold a (copper) penny in half and half again something almost impossible with a common pliers.
The ball is probably to show the Plierench's gripping power. Advertisements in the 50's show the Plierench holding onto a Steel ball at the end of a chain and a pretty Plierench Girl sitting in a swing suspended from the plier handle. Thank you for the photos. Very cool!
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Interesting ! That sounds logical about the ball on the end. Can you post the picture of the Plierench girl sitting on the swing?
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Interesting ! That sounds logical about the ball on the end. Can you post the picture of the Plierench girl sitting on the swing?
Hi Cap, I'll try to dig it up.
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First one like this I've ever seen and with a push from a friend down under, I made the plunge.
I must protest this outrageous slander on my good name ! It was a teeny tiny nudge, at most :pok: :D ;)
With a really sharp stick over 2,000 miles long.... :rofl:
2000 miles? How about 12000 miles.
steve
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Hello All!
First post on the MT forum - I found a treasure at a recent yard sale, and am trying to determine what version of it I have. Obviously it is a Plierench, but the only image I've found of a similarly marked piece had a hole drilled in it, on the unlabeled side. It is approximately halfway between the wire cutter 'body pin' and the top of the plate. Mine has no hole there.
Mine was used as a hammer, more than once. No other jaws, no bag. It appears to have a spring on the jaw side, but it doesn't appear to do anything. Maybe a retainer for the removable jaw pin?
Anyway, I couldn't resist buying it out of the big rubbermaid bucket of rusty tools it was in. I'm thinking of hanging it on my shop wall under my brace and bit/auger 'display', next to my oil can spout.
What version is it?
Cheers!
Pr
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Hello All!
First post on the MT forum - I found a treasure at a recent yard sale, and am trying to determine what version of it I have. Obviously it is a Plierench, but the only image I've found of a similarly marked piece had a hole drilled in it, on the unlabeled side. It is approximately halfway between the wire cutter 'body pin' and the top of the plate. Mine has no hole there.
Mine was used as a hammer, more than once. No other jaws, no bag. It appears to have a spring on the jaw side, but it doesn't appear to do anything. Maybe a retainer for the removable jaw pin?
Anyway, I couldn't resist buying it out of the big rubbermaid bucket of rusty tools it was in. I'm thinking of hanging it on my shop wall under my brace and bit/auger 'display', next to my oil can spout.
What version is it?
Cheers!
Pr
Oh boy, oh boy a question for Me!!!! Quite possibly the best first post ever!!!
You did find an almost 95 year old treasure! You'll have to share the princely sum you paid. You should cross post this in the Car Boots thread....
You have a 1923-24 era World Flight version of the world famous Eifel Plierench. It appears to have straight gears? If the gears are angled the it is a late 1924- 31 World Flight version. It could have been sold by itself or as a set with three jaws in canvas sheath.
Many of them were used as hammers. I have one (later lighter model) that is cracked due to such abuse. The spring does hold the jaw in place. I'll try to get a photo of the user manual showing how it works. The one you saw with the hole was probably missing a retaining pin that holds the head together or it was an earlier model (1921 or 1922) missing the screw.
Check out the rest of this thread for more info.
Regards,
Yadda
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Yadda,
Thanks for the response!
This one looks to have straight 'gear' teeth.
Here is a link to the eBay piece I mentioned with the additional hole: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-EIFEL-FLASH-PLIERENCH-PAT-5-2-16-1916-FLASHSL-039-S-CN-CHICAGO-Plier-Wrench-/173378121309?hash=item285e242e5d%3Ag%3APW4AAOSwqoRbLuNr&_nkw=plierench&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&nma=true&si=uRkMdnjwk7ACMI4swNO4KKN6WCs%253D&orig_cvip=true&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I bought the tool with a couple other odds and ends, but the seller had a $6.00 tag on it - I didn't pay that much.
Hopefully it's worth more than that, but unless someone needs it for their collection, it goes on my 'weird wall'.
Identifying these pliers was a lot easier than what I went through figuring out what I had bought a while back. That piece turned out to be a battery terminal puller!
Pr
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https://i.imgur.com/zsCc0IL.jpg
How would one restore this as a working tool and not a collectable? Acetone bath and off the shelf tool lubricant?
Pliers work. I'd just like to know what viscosity oil to use for smoother operation (I have air tool oil laying around and it's not up to the job).
Ty
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https://i.imgur.com/zsCc0IL.jpg
How would one restore this as a working tool and not a collectable? Acetone bath and off the shelf tool lubricant?
Pliers work. I'd just like to know what viscosity oil to use for smoother operation (I have air tool oil laying around and it's not up to the job).
Ty
Hi Ty,
You have one of the oldest models. Your tool was made in 1922 so it is 97 years old.
Your tool can be disassembled using the screw, but if it works I wouldn't go that far. It should work fine without restoration. If you want to remove the rust, vinegar or rust remover should work fine. I've never used acetone. Lubrication? Use silicone grease or 3-in-1 oil. There is a video on You Tube showing a Plierench restoration. I'll try to find and post the link.
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https://youtu.be/EmnEzo6vQDA
Restoration video link.
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Cool video Y! :like:
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John is great!! He's got an eye for tools, he's always showing something different or interesting. Thanks for sharing Yadda!
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Than you Gentlemen. :hatsoff:
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A group shot of my collection.
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Wow ! :o Awesome collection you have Yadda :like: :tu:
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Very impressive !!! :salute: :hatsoff: :o
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Wow Yadda, your collection has grown considerably since the last time I saw it. :o :like:
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Thank you gentleman. :hatsoff:
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Bravo Yadda!!! What an outstanding collection. Thanks for sharing, it is much appreciated!! :cheers:
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Bumped from necrotopic realm! Here's mine :D
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1936! Not bad for 86 years old!
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Barry. :tu:
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It's in better shape than me!! :rofl:. I'm going to clean it up. I'm thinking about putting it to use in Nix's December EDC Challenge.
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Thanks buddy!
Barry. :tu:
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It's in better shape than me!! :rofl:. I'm going to clean it up. I'm thinking about putting it to use in Nix's December EDC Challenge.
That's a challenge entry I'll read.
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Cleaned it up and applied some grease to the moving parts. It has a beautiful, gun blue finish. The more I play with it, the more I discover how many great features it has. I've been bitten by the Plierench bug! I'm putting this guy to work :D
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Cleaned it up and applied some grease to the moving parts. It has a beautiful, gun blue finish. The more I play with it, the more I discover how many great features it has. I've been bitten by the Plierench bug! I'm putting this guy to work :D
Photos please if you get a chance.
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I took it with me in my Beetle. No uses but it's so cool to have!
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Nice job on the cleanup!
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Thanks! :salute: I used some Case Paste.
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I took it with me in my Beetle. No uses but it's so cool to have!
Barry :tu:
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This tool is awesome!!
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It's amazing the amount of torque you can get, and no damage to what you are working on. For the life of me, these tools should be in every toolbox.
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It's amazing the amount of torque you can get, and no damage to what you are working on. For the life of me, these tools should be in every toolbox.
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Interesting advertising for Plierench. https://www.instagram.com/p/B5_d8AxH2LW/?utm_medium=copy_link
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My guess is Patsy sold lots of Plierenches! :D
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:iagree: :D
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:iagree: :tu:
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:iagree: :tu: