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Outdoor Section => Backwoods Cuisine => Topic started by: Sparky415 on March 28, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
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Here's a little stove made from an Ikea cutlery drainer
You don't need any special tools, I used a hole cutter but you could use tin snips or a Dremel
Hopefully it will get tested at the Sheffield Meet :salute:
More home made stuff?
:pok: Spork?
:D
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/Fire/Ikeaa.jpg)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/Fire/Ikeac.jpg)
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very nice tony, i really need to make one of these soon , hopefully before i go out on a little camping trip witht he girls this summer :tu:
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That's a neat looking little rig!
Def
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Thanks Guys,
I need to fill it full of small sticks and see what happens :)
It worked fine with one of the little Meths burners
I have a stainless 'pot' for it somewhere, now I just need to find one of those removable 'clamp handles' from somewhere :-\
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I like that set up! It would be great if the drainer was short enough to store in the pot (like stacking dolls).
Currently I have a stand made out of welding rods. Not ideal but lightweight and packs inside the pot (just don't TOUCH IT WHILE COOKING!!! :ahhh)
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I keep meaning to try making those little alcohol burner stoves, but haven't gotten around to it yet. They look neat. I even bought some pure methanol to use as fuel, but Ive been lazy and haven't made one yet. Looks like a good setup you have, now I have to check my IKEA for a piece like you have.
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I have a stainless 'pot' for it somewhere, now I just need to find one of those removable 'clamp handles' from somewhere :-\
You mean a multitool with pliers? :P :pok: :pok: :D
Nice little set up Tony :tu: Are the bent rods for if the pot is a smaller diameter than the top of the stove, or are they doing a different job?
(EDIT: OK, I see they're supporting the burner now :-[ )
Only tweak I can think is to put a notch down one side. That way if you're using a metal mug as a pot (sat on the bent rods) there's somewhere for the handle to go :)
I look forward to seeing it in the flesh mate :cheers:
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That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
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That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
Paul, if she's going to be a miser with the milligrams, don't let her fall into the trap of titanium cookware especially with a low temperature stove such as alcohol. It's such a bad conductor that you need more fuel in comparison with other pots do do the same cooking, and she'll end up having to carry more grams of additional fuel than she will save by using titanium ::)
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That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
I made this EXACT alcohol burner and it works great. I've used it dozens of times out ice climbing and mountaineering (ie cold and elevation doesn't affect it).
Penny Stove (http://www.jureystudio.com/pennystove/stoveinstruct.html)
I'll see if I can get some pictures of it up. The only downside was having to drink the Heineken (I like a more robust beer...)
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That does indeed look like a good set-up Tony, in fact I've got my eye on the one I have on the draining board, but I think my wife might not be too happy with me. ;)
I've done a few different alcohol burners over the years, I'll dig them out and take some snaps at some point. :)
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@Syph007
Try this one Mate :salute:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,31235.0.html (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,31235.0.html)
@Al
There's so many holes its very versatile
The bent rods are knitting needles (not sure if the ali will take the heat yet :-\ )
@Gareth
Charity/thrift shops Mate ;)
I am looking for one of those handles that locks on to the pot if anyone knows what they are called or has a link please :think:
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/Fire/280312010.jpg)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/Fire/280312003.jpg)
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http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/trangia-trangia-camping-stove-p141017 (http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/trangia-trangia-camping-stove-p141017)
There might be a few cheaper options too. Try using "pot" in the search box :tu:
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Thanks for that Al :salute:
I didn't want to use a multitool (might make it smell smoky ::) ) and I had seen these somewhere before
Cheaper options? It says there is free postage if you spend more than 70quid :ahhh
Not sure that using the word 'pot' will help in google :D
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:rofl: not google yer great turnip :twak: the search bar on the site :D
Alternatively any local camping store should sell them
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Spork made this one a while back that I always liked:
(http://www.sosakonline.com/images/stories/soldatstove/soldatstove1.jpg)
http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=35 (http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=71&Itemid=35)
Soda can stove made with only a SAK! Well, and a soda can too... :P
Def
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Oh good instructions there, now I have no excuse not to try making one.
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Use a Pepsi or Coke can... using a beer can to burn alcohol is sacrilegious and may cause you to make several with a degrading level of quality control! :drink:
Def
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Good to know... thanks for the info. I know Ti is a lousy heat sink material from my flashlight experience... kinda dumb of me not to realize that with respect to cookware... :P
Fortunately, she's avoiding the Ti stuff because of its cost. To me it doesn't make much difference, but she keeps reminding me that I'm a lot stronger than she is, so the weight is much more of an issue for her.
That's really the one thing about her doing this trip that worries me... she's insisting on doing it alone. Wants the challenge and the "me time"... I've got no problem with that, but I still worry about her being out there on her own, and sometimes I feel like she's not being realistic in her risk assessment. Regardless, I'm doing everything I can to be supportive and helpful of her goal with this, so I'll make sure to pass this on.
(She says I should worry more about taking care of the kids by myself for a whole week! :ahhh )
That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
Paul, if she's going to be a miser with the milligrams, don't let her fall into the trap of titanium cookware especially with a low temperature stove such as alcohol. It's such a bad conductor that you need more fuel in comparison with other pots do do the same cooking, and she'll end up having to carry more grams of additional fuel than she will save by using titanium ::)
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Good to know... thanks for the info. I know Ti is a lousy heat sink material from my flashlight experience... kinda dumb of me not to realize that with respect to cookware... :P
Fortunately, she's avoiding the Ti stuff because of its cost. To me it doesn't make much difference, but she keeps reminding me that I'm a lot stronger than she is, so the weight is much more of an issue for her.
That's really the one thing about her doing this trip that worries me... she's insisting on doing it alone. Wants the challenge and the "me time"... I've got no problem with that, but I still worry about her being out there on her own, and sometimes I feel like she's not being realistic in her risk assessment. Regardless, I'm doing everything I can to be supportive and helpful of her goal with this, so I'll make sure to pass this on.
(She says I should worry more about taking care of the kids by myself for a whole week! :ahhh )
That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
Paul, if she's going to be a miser with the milligrams, don't let her fall into the trap of titanium cookware especially with a low temperature stove such as alcohol. It's such a bad conductor that you need more fuel in comparison with other pots do do the same cooking, and she'll end up having to carry more grams of additional fuel than she will save by using titanium ::)
Consider a SPOT if you're really concerned. They are excellent if you have a view of the sky (ie no good for caving and limited use in canyoneering). We insisted my daughter take one along when she would head out for climbing trips in CO, UT, NV, NM etc.
http://www.findmespot.com/en/ (http://www.findmespot.com/en/) I think there are places that will rent these for short term use too.
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I was just about to suggest that. While discussing it a few weeks ago I think Jie pointed out one that didn't require a registration or service fee.
Def
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Awesome! Thanks for the info! I'm going to make her get one and take it with her.
Thanks boss... I'll definitely look more into this... no matter the expense, I'll get her to get whatever will work best for her. Her safety is priceless to me.
Thanks again for the info... you guys rock! :tu:
Good to know... thanks for the info. I know Ti is a lousy heat sink material from my flashlight experience... kinda dumb of me not to realize that with respect to cookware... :P
Fortunately, she's avoiding the Ti stuff because of its cost. To me it doesn't make much difference, but she keeps reminding me that I'm a lot stronger than she is, so the weight is much more of an issue for her.
That's really the one thing about her doing this trip that worries me... she's insisting on doing it alone. Wants the challenge and the "me time"... I've got no problem with that, but I still worry about her being out there on her own, and sometimes I feel like she's not being realistic in her risk assessment. Regardless, I'm doing everything I can to be supportive and helpful of her goal with this, so I'll make sure to pass this on.
(She says I should worry more about taking care of the kids by myself for a whole week! :ahhh )
That's really cool! My wife has been harrasing me to make her a "tuna can" stove for her to use for backpacking. She's planning on doing about a 50 mi. stretch of the John Muir Trail this summer and is going all weight-weenie for it. She wants to just get a cheapie alcohol burner and something to put it in, very much like what you've done here. I'll have to mention it to her. Thanks for the pics!
Paul, if she's going to be a miser with the milligrams, don't let her fall into the trap of titanium cookware especially with a low temperature stove such as alcohol. It's such a bad conductor that you need more fuel in comparison with other pots do do the same cooking, and she'll end up having to carry more grams of additional fuel than she will save by using titanium ::)
Consider a SPOT if you're really concerned. They are excellent if you have a view of the sky (ie no good for caving and limited use in canyoneering). We insisted my daughter take one along when she would head out for climbing trips in CO, UT, NV, NM etc.
http://www.findmespot.com/en/ (http://www.findmespot.com/en/) I think there are places that will rent these for short term use too.
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I made the pilgrimage to the nearest IKEA a while back and have been fooling around with drainers. So far I have built three of them.
The first is made from the short drainer with a pot support made from 1/8" steel bar.
The second is shortened to nest with a Coleman Cookset from a tall drainer...I rolled the cut-edge slightly to stippen the rim. This is the one I've tinkered with most. Since I rarely get to burn wood, I've been turning it to use a Trangia burner as a primary heat source. Currently I've been experimenting with a strip of aluminum flashing placed inside to form a more effective windscreen for the alcohol stove.
The third is shortened to nest with an Imusa aluminum mug.
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I was just about to suggest that. While discussing it a few weeks ago I think Jie pointed out one that didn't require a registration or service fee.
Def
Here's the post from Jie:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,35810.msg577214.html#msg577214 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,35810.msg577214.html#msg577214)
Apparently it's a Canadian thing, but there should be similar services for other countries as well.
Def
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Rather than add support feet like I've seen others do, I used the cut-off pieces of the tall drainers.
I made slits down to the original holes and added a new row of vent holes. It's a pretty snug friction fit and after a couple of burn cycles, found it impossible to remove without damaging the strainer.
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Clever :hatsoff:
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I've been refining this Coffee boiler setup since I got a new coffee mill. I've probably tried 8 or 9 variations of port sizes, hole patterns and flame gap so far with the Pepsi-G style stove
It's actually an aluminum greasepot of about 3 cups capacity. I used the strainer insert as a base for the pot stand...computer fan, stainless screws and hardware, aluminum tubing as spacers. The stand stows upside-down in the pot along with a roof flashing windscreen (not shown).
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:o I'm always amazed by your stuff Spork :salute:
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This is probably my favorite homebuilt stove stand. It's my version of Risk's CoffeeStove (http://www.imrisk.com/woodgas/coffeestove.htm)
It's actually meant as a twig burner, but works well with alky stoves. I sized mine to fit in a BSA messkit billy...a notch in the rim of the can allows the original plastic cup to nest with the stove. The support arms stow on the bottom of the can...held in place with the plastic lid (which can be used as a mini cutting board)
The burners are my latest build using Miller Light canbottles (sturdier than standard soda cans). Slightly modified Pepsi-G build to provide a shoulder for the simmer ring to rest...really just an 1/8" higher inner wall. The un-moderated run time on an ounce of fuel is averaging 6-7 minutes (hard boil around 5). The ring doubles the burn time. I guess technically it's not a simmer ring, but I'm hoping it will moderate the heat output enough so that I don't burn my bacon ::)
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We need a "Spork's camp stove setups" thread.
These are just amazingly clever variations on a theme and each has its own application. Really smart design. :tu:
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We need Spork's tutorials because his stoves look better than the originals...and everything else out there.
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Tony plenty of twigs in my garden to try this out. Also if you want a trip to go outdoors while here in Sheffield it is only 2 miles from where I live. I also have a trang set up which includes the handle which you can use while here.
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I like the idea of playing in your garden Mate, near the new forge ;)
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Tested at the Meet and works well with twigs
After this picture I replaced the Ali with steel tent pegs ;) (thanks HK)
(If anyone wants to copy my one I would suggest moving the feed hole up towards the top)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/Fire/IkeaSticks.jpg)
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Yes, I prefer a higher port too...keeps the flaming bits and pieces from falling out and seems to be easier to feed.
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I will say I was impressed with Tony's deodorant can stove, worked extremely well. :tu:
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@Spork,
Yes you are right, I had not thought it through when I made mine ::)
@Gareth
Thanks Mate I really like the little chap and thanks again for my new bag :salute:
I will do some more picture of my kit soon, just need a little plastic bottle for the meths and its complete..... and maybe a wind shield :)
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These drainers are just two pounds each at Ikea (there's a taller drainer available aswell ) :pok:
Smart Angel IKEA - ORDNING Cutlery Caddy, Stainless Steel
Diameter: 4 3/4" 12cms
Height: 5 3/8" 13.5cms
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30011832/ (http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/30011832/)
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I just got in from the back yard where I fired up my third attempt at a wood-gas stove made from cans (a 15oz can and a larger tin can for the outside.
Here's a link to the PDF of the original version, the 'Everything Nice' wood-gas stove...
http://worldstove.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/EverythingNice_Stove_Instructions.pdf (http://worldstove.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/EverythingNice_Stove_Instructions.pdf)
I've been experimenting with the simplest ways to make them with my EDC tools.
I'll see about posting a pic of the nasty looking thing if there's any interest. It is fueled by the branch litter created by our oak in the back yard, and runs for about half an hour on 2/3 of a 15oz can's worth of twigs. The wood gas stove design is simply incredible, IMO.
Here's a video someone posted on youtube of their build, if you want an idea of how simple it is.
Everything Nice wood gas stove (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxL6pPGGCE#ws)
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Thanks Lynne
You know we will want some pictures of yours in action :tu:
I just have to finish my new 'short spork' and my little set up is just about sorted :cheers:
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Okay. As requested. It's ugly, but it works.
First pic. This is the amount of fuel required, not counting some very small twigs to get it going. Vic Tinker for scale. It rained today, so everything is damp, including the wood you see here. The tin foil will later be used as a pot wrap, and the whole mess is set atop my little Smoky Joe grill to make it safe.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1316.jpg)
Here it is during initial ignition. I've never started one of these without some kind of assistance, usually a paraffin wax soaked cotton ball. I used 2 pieces, each a quarter of a cotton ball, to get it going this time. The damp fuel made things a bit more challenging than normal. From ignition to when it's operating normally ranges from maybe 7 to ten minutes or so, depending on how the fuel catches.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1318.jpg)
Okay, so here it is at about optimal burn. It's fairly hard to see the flames. At this stage, these things put off no visible smoke, and virtually no smell. Just a flame that's about 4 to 5 inches above the can top. By this point, the external can is radiating heat.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1319.jpg)
Here's my little 1-quart camping pot set on top, before I wrap it with aluminum foil. I designed this stove with a built-in pot stand: something lacking in every other design I've seen. That's what all the square holes are around the elevated portion of the inner can.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1320.jpg)
Boil time is about 11 minutes to slow boil (not rolling boil).
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1321.jpg)
And here it is post-boil. You can see the wraps I used for the pot to each side of the stove. These coals will die down to nothing in half an hour or so.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/lynnlefey/IMGP1322.jpg)
Total burn-time was about 35 minutes, not including warm-up and the point after which the flames went out, leaving only hot coals. That would be enough to boil 2 quarts of water, with additional cook time with the hot coals afterward.
And, there you have it. A stove for the cost of two cans you were going to throw away, and half an hour's work of poking holes in them. I could make a less fancy version, without the more intricate pot-stand, in about ten minutes, I think.
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Thanks Lynn :salute:
Nice set of pictures and the built in pot stand is a great idea :tu:
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/bushcraft.gif)
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I think this little 'I need a coffee/pot noodle kit' is now finished, I took the little feet off the drainer as I don't think they are needed :-\
I can't decide which burner to take, the one I made or the bought one which holds some meths with the lid screwed on :think:
Just need to take/add coffee, milk, water and pot noodle :D
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/080612009.jpg)
Its all fairly obvious
A - Pot holder
B - Meths burner
C – Meths
D – Stainless Pot
E – Wind screen
F – Fire starting kit
G – Home made Meths burner
H – Steel tent pegs
I – Shorty Spork
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/080612008bb.jpg)
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/bushcraft.gif) :D
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I like "F"...can we have a peek inside?
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By the way thanks to everyone whose ideas I stole and everyone that helped me making this kit inc HK, Al and Gareth :cheers:
:salute: Spork
Nothing that needs too much skill to use ;)
Left to right top
Match case full of 'safety' matches and cotton wool
Ally box with some 'scratch' stuck on the side
Some pine 'sticks'
Tiny tin of Vaseline
Green Heat
cotton wool mixed with Vaseline
Little lock knife
Orange whistle
LED flashlight
Tea-light
Light my fire 'fire-steel'
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/080612015.jpg)
Green heat ;)
http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?P_ID=3751 (http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?P_ID=3751)
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Nice :cheers: Though I was sure there was going to be a bottle of petrol inside ::) :D
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Don't know why you should think that :whistle:
I need to thank you Spork :salute: after I took that picture I was playing with the fire starting kit and tried to open the Vaseline, the lid fits so well a vacuum stopped me from getting the top off, I had to use two pairs of grips to open it :o
So I've added some more grip tape :tu:
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/090612002.jpg)
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I was thinking that another striker strip inside the lid might be a good ideal...in case things get wet on the outside.
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I was thinking that another striker strip inside the lid might be a good ideal...in case things get wet on the outside.
Another thing to add :tu: I might also get a little Bic lighter
Always open to suggestions but nothing that is hard work to use :salute:
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Looking good mate :tu:
A clipper lighter is always a good choice in my opinion. More reliable than a cheapo disposable, and better fuel retention than a zippo. I notice you have some little pine sticks. Are they the fatwood sticks that you can buy, or just bits of pine you had kicking about?
A fire kit I built years ago had some emergency kindling which was wooden forks from the local chippy. I've always picked up more than one wooden fork at a chippy, as if I picked one up - you could guarantee I'd drop it or it would break on me. The extras that built up got split lengthways and put in a waterproof tin with some cotton wool
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I will keep a look out for a clipper then :salute:
Just some clean dry pine that was kicking about in the garage to give me a little start ;)
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I will say I was impressed with Tony's deodorant can stove, worked extremely well. :tu:
I'm now a very happy owner of one of Tony's home grown meths burners. :cheers:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/overflow/012.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/overflow/007.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/overflow/008.jpg)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss260/gareth_SAKs/overflow/006.jpg)
Works extremely well. :salute:
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Great pictures Gareth :tu:
Tofty and I discovered at the meet that they really don't work very well in the wind :-[ so I've been thinking about some kind of wind break for them :think: :think:
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Hey mate, it looks great! Burns like an olympic flame!
How fast is it compared to a Trangia, any idea?
I can't make out the potstand? Directly on top surely not?
Ofcourse you could keep it nice and simple by using a cheap alu windshield (roll-up).
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Hey mate, it looks great! Burns like an olympic flame!
How fast is it compared to a Trangia, any idea?
I can't make out the potstand? Directly on top surely not?
Ofcourse you could keep it nice and simple by using a cheap alu windshield (roll-up).
There's a bit more about them here Waterlander :salute:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,31235.msg520211.html#msg520211 (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,31235.msg520211.html#msg520211)
half a pint/300ml of cold water heated to boiling in 7min's in a tin can but might be quicker in a pan, I don't know about the trangia? :-\
If you follow the link you will see the pot sits on top of the burner but its not the most stable cooker in the world :ahhh
Cheap is my middle name, I am going to cut up another can and see what I can make :think: and I need to adjust my Ikea stove windbreak at the same time
(I wanted a simple to use burner which is why the pot sits on top, less stuff to carry/forget,
So I'm defeating the original idea by adding a windbreak but at the meet it would not stay alight long enough to get up to operating temperature..... needs must :shrug: )
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Great thank you, I'm gonna check that later, good old backyard mechanics! :tu:
half a pint/300ml of cold water heated to boiling in 7min's in a tin can but might be quicker in a pan, I don't know about the trangia? :-\
2:35 minutes (to a full rolling boil)
- cool tap water
- room temperature, indoors
- black stainless pot, with the lid on
- clickstand stove holder
- trangia pre-heated
Who will beat that? Bring it on :D
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I will see what I can do over the weekend :cheers:
:pok: There's one or two scattered around the UK so someone might beat me to it :D
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Here we go everything ready :tu:
Water from cold tap
Room temp 23c 75f ish in my workshop
Black stainless pot, with the lid on
Pot sitting on top of burner
Burner pre heated
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/18082012025.jpg)
Yep that's lit :ahhh
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/18082012029.jpg)
Looking good :tu:
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/18082012032.jpg)
3.5 Mins Later :facepalm:
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n184/sparky_415/stuff/18082012034.jpg)
:oops: maybe petrol would work >:D
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There's one or two scattered around the UK so someone might beat me to it
Where's the backup when you need them? :D
I brought two stoves on a camping trip this weekend, so I tried again outside.
Trangia - 2:55 min.
MSR - 2:05 min.
My petrol burner is an old and rather clogged up MSR Whisperlite.
maybe petrol would work
The secret is all in the pot..swiss made! ::)
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,36937.msg621688.html#new (http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,36937.msg621688.html#new)
(http://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36937.0;attach=36850;image)
Rematch with a wood stove? :)
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I shall have to do a time trial with my Wild Wood Gas Stove Combo (my latest stove) and my ever faithful Jetboil. Neither of them are home made, but it's nice to know how they fare against the home grown alcohol stoves.
Last time I used the wood gas stove was also the first time, when I figured out what NOT to do, and smoked out the neighbours :oops:
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I shall have to do a time trial with my Wild Wood Gas Stove Combo (my latest stove) and my ever faithful Jetboil. Neither of them are home made, but it's nice to know how they fare against the home grown alcohol stoves.
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I'll bring my Kelly Kettle to the match! :tu:
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I have one of those too :D Have you seen the HUGE ones that have come out now?
I think they are 10 pints capacity :o
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I have played with Al's Kelly Kettle, what a great bit of kit! :tu:
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Indeed it is! My needs on a hike are boiling water mostly, and for that the Kettle is awesome.
I'm sure it beats any petrol stove. :D
Shame that it's rather bulky to take in a ruksack, even the smallest version. But very light, nothing to break down. And it burns on just about anything, like cow smurf. :D
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I have one of those too :D Have you seen the HUGE ones that have come out now?
I think they are 10 pints capacity :o
You've got a link, mate?
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I have one of those too :D Have you seen the HUGE ones that have come out now?
I think they are 10 pints capacity :o
You've got a link, mate?
http://www.ronniesunshines.com/bushcraft-camping/cooking/ghillie-kettles/the-original-storm-kettle.html (http://www.ronniesunshines.com/bushcraft-camping/cooking/ghillie-kettles/the-original-storm-kettle.html)
No fire pan with these, so the fire is effectively on the ground or on a heatproof tray/mat you put down before putting the kettle on it. I have been VERY tempted to buy one of these for a while, but money always seems to be prioritised into some other gadget, bill or project ::) Not a rucksack item, but this would be very handy for me at the boat
These appear to be from Ghillie rather than Kelly, and unlike the rest of the range not made in house - the manufacture of these is outsourced to China from what I can determine, but I've not heard any bad reports so far. I do like the fact the stopper is steel to stop ash landing in it and it's vented by having a separate spout (obviously can't use a cork on the standard models for fear of it pressurising and going pop :ahhh :ahhh)
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Here's a review I found on it ...
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58276&p=707601#post707601 (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58276&p=707601#post707601)
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Thank you, but I pretend I didn't see that website, or my wallet will hurt!
I like these two:
http://wildstoves.co.uk/storm-kettles/the-mkettle-mini-storm-kettle-500ml/ (http://wildstoves.co.uk/storm-kettles/the-mkettle-mini-storm-kettle-500ml/)
http://wildstoves.co.uk/wood-cooking-stoves/wood-gas-camping-stoves/wild-wood-gas-stove/ (http://wildstoves.co.uk/wood-cooking-stoves/wood-gas-camping-stoves/wild-wood-gas-stove/)
Unpacking demo of the Wild Woodgas Stove Mk II, and burning with meths (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prN0gspTIPA#)
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.... and I already have the second one, and am pretty sure the first will be mine before too long >:D
I was going to get the mKettle first, but decided to try out the wild woodgas stove first instead as I figured there might be less smoke involved ... but first time I used it I smoked out the neighbours. Now I know how NOT to use it
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What went wrong? Did you use wood with lots of resin, or something?
That wild wood stove really fits my bill. Both wood and alcohol.
Quite expensive, but made in the UK isn't?
How do you like it? Worth the money?
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Here's what I learned ...
Lesson One: Secondary combustion will only happen if you get the inside hot enough first. Get a real tinder loaded, hot burning fire going to get the stove up to temperature quickly. I didn't get it hot enough quick enough at first - but quickly put that right.
Lesson Two: When the fuel has reduced to coals, the steel inner cools down quite quickly, so if you leave it with glowing coals in the bottom, get it raging with more tinder first to get it back up to temperature before adding more solid fuel. I got the fuel smoking lovely, but the air flow wasn't hot enough to reignite the smoke
I got the combo with pan to use on/stow it in, and it's great though a little heavy. This is offset by not carrying a week worth of fuel though. The "gas ring" effect from the secondary combustion is 8) 8) 8) and because of the effiicency, there's not a lot of fuel needed. No regrets from buying it whatsoever :tu:
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Good to hear mate :tu:
I'll start saving mo'
With some wind the draft in the chimney on a Kettle is awesome.
It has some practical downsides too, besides burning your eyebrows off.
Those MSR pans are well build but quite heavy.
I'll stick with my old pot.
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Good to hear mate :tu:
I'll start saving mo'
With some wind the draft in the chimney on a Kettle is awesome.
It has some practical downsides too, besides burning your eyebrows off.
Those MSR pans are well build but quite heavy.
I'll stick with my old pot.
Look what I just found on you tube :D :D
Wild Stoves woodgas stove: inital review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8BWYiuHoJ0#ws)
Quite a good review of it actually
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Great! My birthday is coming next month. :)
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Continuing the wood gasifier theme, but getting back to the 'home made' topic, here's a video I found on the tube;
DIY: How to make a backpacking wood gasifier stove (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHtA-d9hNPk#ws)
there's even a touch of LM usage. :D
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That does look pretty good actually. I did wonder if a few tweaks might make it a bit better though.
He seemed to have too many large holes round the base of the inner can meaning the venting through to the inner was more than what the outer was letting in - possibly why his jets weren't too defined. Also I have some taller soup cans of a standard diameter. Maybe that could be used to give a permanent pot support :think:
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I agree, I think it's a good idea but could do with some refinement. One thing I'd try and get rid off is the sharp edge on the larger can, and like you I'm not sure it needs so many holes in the base of the smaller can.
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Someone returned a waterbottle with ‘sorry the lid fell in the fire’ :facepalm:
Saw this on Utube
How to make an alcohol stove for 1 dollar! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDMJs0lvlNw#)
So…
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Yep that works :tu:
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The burner is almost 3” in diameter and works well with an 8”pot :cheers:
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Nice job sparky, I likes.. JR
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That looks nice!
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A larger version of your aerosol can burner, right? Good walk through video though. :cheers:
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Yes more or less :tu: you just followed the guy in the vid, it was surprisingly easy to make with just a dremel and some sand paper
Got my eye on a stainless steel flask now ;)
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Yesterday at work I went ahead and made a "Hannah stove". It's a super simple pressurized alcohol stove made from 2 soda cans and a penny.
You can find instructions here
http://flamingbike.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/hannahstove.pdf (http://flamingbike.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/hannahstove.pdf)
I have found that it's very easy to cut a soda can with a good pair of scissors, rather than scoring it with a box cutter.
Tomorrow I'll buy some 96% alcohol and try it out >:D
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Nice link Threeme :tu:
Good luck :cheers:
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A continuation to my previous post.
Here is a short explanation and some piccies of my "Hannah Stove" in action.
I had originally made 8 thumb-tack sized holes around the perimeter of the stove, after testing it I concluded that I needed more holes. So I made 8 more for a total of *counts fingers and toes* 16 holes.
I even used my trusty ST300 as a hammer, for tapping the thumb-tack through the can.
**No Leathermans were harmed while making this stove**
I found a place that sells 95% denatured alcohol for a reasonable price. 1 liter of the stuff for about 24 ILS, which is *google-fu* just over 6.5 USD.
The way you use it is by filling the stove with some alcohol via the bug filling hole at the top, and then putting a small coin on the hole to act at a kind of pressure release valve.
You then make a small (very small!) puddle of alcohol under the stove and light it in order to boil the alcohol inside the stove.
When the boiling alcohol starts to evaporate from the holes it is self sustainable, until the alcohol inside runs out.
Here are the mandatory pics :D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/Threeme2189/IMG_20130611_205513_zps7150d75f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Threeme2189/media/IMG_20130611_205513_zps7150d75f.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/Threeme2189/IMG_20130611_165647_zpsfab3c66f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Threeme2189/media/IMG_20130611_165647_zpsfab3c66f.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/Threeme2189/IMG_20130611_165653_zps5f573b8b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Threeme2189/media/IMG_20130611_165653_zps5f573b8b.jpg.html)
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That looks like a great little stove to me mate :)
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Nice job mate. :)
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Nice job mate. :)
+1 That’s nice and neat Threeme :tu: When I made one the sides came out a bit bent ::)
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Nice job mate. :)
+1 That’s nice and neat Threeme :tu: When I made one the sides came out a bit bent ::)
It's a bit tricky to get them to sit straight. But with a bit of patience it's do-able :-)
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I made a wind shield + pot holder from a recycled tomato sauce can and a piece of thick wire.
Some action shots:
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that looks like an excellent set-up mate. :tu:
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Blueberry muffin baked in a Hobo oven :D ...a coffee can Billy and a tuna can.
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Awesome idea, Spork. :salute: I'm going to have to try that one out. :cheers:
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Make sure you burn out the cans first to get rid of the linings.
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I've been messing about with some Ikea drainers again :)
The hole I made in my first one was too close to the bottom, so Mk 2...
Then I copied Sporks idea and added a collar to one of mine :salute:
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:tu:
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Nice Sparky...sharp choppy thing, fire and a brew :tu:
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Looks the part Tony :)
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Nice. 8)
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:cheers:
Just need to sharpen my ax now, serves me right using a concrete chopping block :facepalm:
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I remember doing that than chopping down a dog wood :(
Brand new GB SFA and it went straight through the limb I was cutting and into the retaining wall behind!
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At least you didn't damage a cheap blade :whistle:
I was being lazy just to save myself walking 6 yards to the garage ::)
If anyone else is going to make one of these I think tin snips are the best tool for the job :tu:
:cheers:
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:popcorn:
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I believe a sculptor once said take away everything thats not necessary and you will end up with a wood stove (I'm fairly sure thats what he said :think: )
Back left
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Dang there wasn't a stove in that one ::)
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Just a wind shield ;)
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lol, very nice Tony. 8)
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Very!
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Here's a pressurised side burner stove I made a tutorial for :tu:
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Nice tutorial :tu:
Thanks Doc :cheers:
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Nice tutorial :tu:
Thanks Doc :cheers:
indeed. :cheers:
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Thanks Guys :tu:
It's a design I found on Zen Stoves but I tweaked it a little and used a steel can instead of aluminium, much more robust ;)
http://zenstoves.net/
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I've made one or two of these in the past but can't seem to find any of them now :shrug:
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I love power tools!
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Get a big lump with size 11 boots to stand on it
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Mark out some spacings
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Drilled some tiny holes, fill and light
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Oooooh
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Aaaaah
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That seems to work :cheers:
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That's gotta be a nice little heavy duty stove.. :tu:
JR
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Nice one Tony. :tu: I've still got one of your aerosol can stoves and really rate it.
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That's gotta be a nice little heavy duty stove.. :tu:
JR
This one is fairly rugged :tu:
Nice one Tony. :tu: I've still got one of your aerosol can stoves and really rate it.
:salute:
This one is a little more stable than the aerosol one, its 3inches across ;)