Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 05:09:59 AM
I recently participated in the a minimal challenge and started a small project using only a SAK. The hook really came in useful, especially for those final turns on the brass hooks to spare my fingers. Just turning the SAK on its side will give you more leverage, just have to be careful with the soft brass.
So what do you think of the hook? I also welcome any criticism of aforementioned hook! You probably won't convince me not to like it but I'd like to see you try! :duel:
Thanks for reading! :cheers:
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Post by: glenfiddich1983 on March 16, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
The hook is one of those tools that has the unique power of Making Your Day. The hook sits there on the back of your knife, waiting for an opportunity to unexpectedly surprise you with its usefulness.
Post by: Don Pablo on March 16, 2017, 09:38:26 AM
I would be VERY careful twisting it like that, the hook is the only tool that jothra managed to damage on Vicky the huntsman, and it was caused by twisting. :oops:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,46255.msg762902.html#msg762902
I recommend reading the whole thread, its funny and informative!
Post by: Mactire404 on March 16, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
he hook sits there on the back of your knife, waiting for an opportunity to unexpectedly surprise you with its usefulness.This is very accurate and very poetic!
It's not just a parcel carrier, seriously, who still ties his packages? It's all tape these days.
The hook has a very satisfying element of surprise to it. And it saved my day on more than one occasion.
Once I was riding my bike to school, it was exam day! Halfway my chain got derailed and got stuck, really stuck, between the rear gears. It was impossible to budge. I tried sticks, my hands. I was a oily mess and nothing worked. Then I recalled my Handymand an opened the hook. One tug and the chain was free! I quickly replaced it and raced to school. Just shy of 20 minutes late, the deadline for entry.
It's also good for tightening steel wire by twisting. It makes a good SAK stand for photo's. It once helped me remove a stuck drawer and pull a thin line tight on another occasion.
And, as mentioned by the OP, turning hooks.
I wouldn't want to miss the hook!
Post by: Mike 56 on March 16, 2017, 10:52:49 AM
Thanks,
Mike
Post by: ddogu on March 16, 2017, 10:54:36 AM
Post by: Barry Rowland on March 16, 2017, 12:07:52 PM
Post by: FolderBeholder on March 16, 2017, 12:22:20 PM
It starts at location 1:40. Watch until 2:19, he uses it twice. :tu:
https://youtu.be/y8wPp5YJ9Hw
Post by: MacGyver on March 16, 2017, 12:31:59 PM
Every good song needs a solid hook and well, I'm starting to believe every SAK does too. The multipurpose hook is the victim of ridicule from many an unimaginative soul. You may not readily assume that a pocket knife would come equipped with a hook, understandably so, and I must admit I can see the hook coming off as a bit curious or unexpected. I, however, find when carrying a SAK that has the hook, I feel all the more equipped to handle a variety of daily tasks. In my experience, the multipurpose hook is great for turning a variety of hooks and screw eyes, stretching out new guitar strings, prying that keychain open, and of course, helping me carry things. I'd say my most frequent use of the hook is a mount for the pen on my Compact and Climber +. (Kind of a boring application so I'll spare you pics :D)
I recently participated in the a minimal challenge and started a small project using only a SAK. The hook really came in useful, especially for those final turns on the brass hooks to spare my fingers. Just turning the SAK on its side will give you more leverage, just have to be careful with the soft brass.
So what do you think of the hook? I also welcome any criticism of aforementioned hook! You probably won't convince me not to like it but I'd like to see you try! :duel:
Thanks for reading! :cheers:
Hell of a nice topic here mate :2tu: :salute:
I've seen so many people slag off the hook (as well as some other tools) because they don't understand it's purpose or think it's a superfluous tool. I think it really boils down to how each person understand the possible usefulness of things, meaning in this case when they look to a sak tool, what do they see...?
I've seen some youtube reviews and opinions, and some folks don't understand why the can opener still exists on s sak for example, the logic is few people open cans with an opener anymore, and most cans have pull tabs.
My question would be: Well, what do you see when you look to the can opener then...? Probably just a blade to open cans, with a small flathead on the front...
I look at it as a flat piece of metal with a curved reasonably sharp edge on the front, as well as a flathead, and a curved spike on the back that, aside from it's intended primary function of opening cans, can be a flathead / philips screwdriver, a ligh use pry bar, a great scraper, box opener, since the front has kind of a hook shape a hook to pull stuff, the spike on the back can also be used to twist wire with, and so on... Whatever comes to your mind at the time... How's that for a tool that is supposed to be to open cans? I probably used the can opener on saks like twice in my life to actually open a can, but i wouldn't buy a full sized sak without one.
Same as the hook, a lot of people look at it as the "parcel hook" so since they don't need to carry parcel's the hook is "useless" and "a waste of space"... I look at the hook as a piece of metal hook shaped, that can be used for anything as a piece of metal hook shaped could possibly be. It takes exactly the same space as if it wasn't there, it weigh's next to nothing too.
That's the whole philosophy of a sak to me, don't look at a tool just for the function the manufacturer says on paper, look at it as a piece of metal shaped in a certain way that can be useful for whatever the hell your mind (and immediate need) can come up with and improvise. And it's in your pocket, with you, ready to be used at any time it's needed.
Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mind
Post by: Don Pablo on March 16, 2017, 12:42:53 PM
Post by: Mactire404 on March 16, 2017, 01:46:55 PM
Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mind
I think it all boils down to this. The ability to see potential in any situation.
If you have the flexibility of mind a hook can be anything, so can a canopener (also a great orange peeler by the way ^_~).
Post by: firiki on March 16, 2017, 03:20:51 PM
The hook got a considerable dislike percentage. :-\
Personally, I like the hook.
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And the fish scaler. Combo tool, not so much.
Post by: Don Pablo on March 16, 2017, 03:29:36 PM
And less people would dislike the fishscaler if they saw it as a general purpose ruler/fork/metal poky thing. :tu:
Post by: firiki on March 16, 2017, 03:35:00 PM
I agree with you on the combo tool, it simply cannot do as much as the openers can.
And less people would dislike the fishscaler if they saw it as a general purpose ruler/fork/metal poky thing. :tu:
I agree with everything you just said :cheers:
Post by: gene stoner on March 16, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 04:56:14 PM
Yea the hook is great! :like:
I would be VERY careful twisting it like that, the hook is the only tool that jothra managed to damage on Vicky the huntsman, and it was caused by twisting. :oops:
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,46255.msg762902.html#msg762902
I recommend reading the whole thread, its funny and informative!
:salute:
Thanks for the tip! I was using brass hooks so they definitely started giving before the hook, a couple actually broke... But no blisters on me fingers! :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 05:40:04 PM
So many great replies!!!
:salute:
Post by: magentus on March 16, 2017, 05:45:48 PM
There's always the classic 'Zip line' use when escaping from baddies on a cable car, and this clip from the excellent 'Moonrise Kingdom' must be shown - It's the SAK law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1Fm7uzVfI
Post by: MacGyver on March 16, 2017, 05:54:02 PM
I started this poll once, out of curiosity. http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,58265.msg1056172.html#msg1056172
The hook got a considerable dislike percentage. :-\
Personally, I like the hook.Show contentAnd the fish scaler. Combo tool, not so much.
I've seen the pool and read the topic, still can't understand from the reason's given to why people dislike the hook and like it to be gone.
Let's consider: Even if one hardly uses the hook, or see's much use for it at all, why the hell would it be better if it wasn't there when the hook takes up absolutely no extra space, and practically adds almost no extra weight and can be useful for something, eventually?
It makes no sense to me, being there is better than not being there as far as function and usefulness goes.
Now if one argues that he prefers not having the hook there for an aesthetics's purpose (with just the plain spring on the back), that i can understand as a reason, for example...
Or if they invented another tool to go with the scissor's on that spring instead of the hook that one might find more usefull, that i can also understand as a reason...
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 06:43:20 PM
Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mind
I think it all boils down to this. The ability to see potential in any situation.
If you have the flexibility of mind a hook can be anything, so can a canopener (also a great orange peeler by the way ^_~).
Exactly. :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 06:52:08 PM
Love the hook personally. Used it to great effect building a chicken coop (threading wire through timber uprights to secure netting ) the hook was brilliant for pulling the wire back through. Also used it a few times for an extra couple of inches stretching behind a chest of drawers to retrieve something dropped down the back.
There's always the classic 'Zip line' use when escaping from baddies on a cable car, and this clip from the excellent 'Moonrise Kingdom' must be shown - It's the SAK law:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1Fm7uzVfI
:like:
Classic film.
Also good for reaching up to that high air vent
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 16, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
I like how this guy uses the hook on a box in order to not mess up the box.
It starts at location 1:40. Watch until 2:19, he uses it twice. :tu:
https://youtu.be/y8wPp5YJ9Hw
Thanks for the reply, FB! Genius! I love that guy's videos.
Post by: VICMAN on March 16, 2017, 07:24:49 PM
I like how this guy uses the hook on a box in order to not mess up the box.
It starts at location 1:40. Watch until 2:19, he uses it twice. :tu:
https://youtu.be/y8wPp5YJ9Hw
Thanks for sharing the video FB. That is a use for the hook I had not thought of. :like:
Post by: zoidberg on March 16, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
Post by: Danjo on March 16, 2017, 10:40:12 PM
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 17, 2017, 01:47:21 AM
Congrats, badge awarded. :cheers:
Danke Schön!
:salute:
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 17, 2017, 01:50:09 AM
Why ANY tool should be dismissed or bagged on is beyond me. Especially with SAKs. When there are so many tool combinations available, there is no reason to not get the one that has the tools out want and not one's you don't. You don't need a particular tool?; Get a different model. Don't generalize from the specific, and assume that because YOU have no use for something, no one else does either. I hate "reviews" where half of the tools are dismissed out of hand with, "Never use it." Really? Then review something you have used and don't waste my time. All this to say, thanks for the hook thread! Great write-up and replies!
Good point! I've noticed the "don't know/don't care/don't use" thing in a lot of videos. I've been considering making a video or 9...
Post by: Danjo on March 17, 2017, 01:52:49 AM
Good point! I've noticed the "don't know/don't care/don't use" thing a lot videos. I've been considering making a video or 9...
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Post by: carboncopy101 on March 17, 2017, 04:46:47 AM
Post by: firiki on March 17, 2017, 01:38:07 PM
I started this poll once, out of curiosity. http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,58265.msg1056172.html#msg1056172
The hook got a considerable dislike percentage. :-\
Personally, I like the hook.Show contentAnd the fish scaler. Combo tool, not so much.
I've seen the pool and read the topic, still can't understand from the reason's given to why people dislike the hook and like it to be gone.
Let's consider: Even if one hardly uses the hook, or see's much use for it at all, why the hell would it be better if it wasn't there when the hook takes up absolutely no extra space, and practically adds almost no extra weight and can be useful for something, eventually?
It makes no sense to me, being there is better than not being there as far as function and usefulness goes.
Now if one argues that he prefers not having the hook there for an aesthetics's purpose (with just the plain spring on the back), that i can understand as a reason, for example...
Or if they invented another tool to go with the scissor's on that spring instead of the hook that one might find more usefull, that i can also understand as a reason...
Yes, I can't understand the hate either. Two things I can think of is that, since 1991 if I remember correctly, the hook is paired with the scissors on every 91mm model so you can't choose not to have it, and that on some models the hook can be hard to deploy due to it's proximity to the keyring. Still, I agree with you; it doesn't really take up space nor does it add that much weight so why would some people not have it there is beyond me.
Aesthetics, OK, I can accept that, but most springs on 91mm SAKs aren't flush anyway. As for a most useful implement for that slot... :think:
???
Post by: Mattexian on March 19, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
I work as a stocker, and sometimes that means putting something together that a harried factory worker didn't complete. I had a piñata that the string had come untied and slipped out of the holes where it hangs from. I threaded that cord back into the hole, but needed a way to pull it thru the second hole-- enter the SAK hook! It slipped in, snagged the cord, pulled it out, and I could tie off the cord securely and put the piñata on the shelf.
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Post by: Blackbeard on March 20, 2017, 07:51:35 AM
Post by: MacGyver on March 20, 2017, 09:30:50 AM
the day i see someone walk into the post office with a stack of brown paper wrapped parcels and string being toted by a vic hook is the day when I give all my saks away, what year is this 1948? In fact if that has ever been done by a living human being I would be shocked
??? ??? ??? Ookkk....
Post by: Don Pablo on March 20, 2017, 09:40:34 AM
:cough cough: The hook was introduced n 1991 :cough cough:the day i see someone walk into the post office with a stack of brown paper wrapped parcels and string being toted by a vic hook is the day when I give all my saks away, what year is this 1948? In fact if that has ever been done by a living human being I would be shocked
??? ??? ??? Ookkk....
ITS NOT FOR CARRYING PARCELS. :D
Its a hook shaped piece of metal that can save your bacon(or cook it easier) in lots of situations,
and why would anyone want no tool rather than a hook?
Post by: Mactire404 on March 20, 2017, 10:17:00 AM
:cough cough: The hook was introduced n 1991 :cough cough:
ITS NOT FOR CARRYING PARCELS. :D
Really?! I never looked it up but I assumed the hook was around for a long time. I recall the instruction booklet on my first Handyman having a picture of a hook carrying a parcel. Sadly I don't have that box and booklet any more, so I can't check.
EDIT:
Not to prove anything to anyone but to myself I'm not crazy ;)
On this image you can see on example 14 that the hook is marketed as parcel carrier.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1479)
Post by: MacGyver on March 20, 2017, 10:48:35 AM
EDIT:
Not to probe anything to anyone but to myself I'm not crazy ;)
On this image you can see on example 14 that the hook is marketed as parcel carrier.
(http://www.sakwiki.com/show_image.php?id=1479)
Well... I wouldn't call it exactly "marketed" as a parcel carrier. That's just one example of what you can use the hook for, same as the pic pulling the bicycle chain, same as pulling tent spikes, same as pulling the tab on a can...
As far as i remember the hook was never actually labeled as a "parcel carrier" , it was always labeled as "the multi purpose hook".
I think people always tend associate the hook with the parcel carrier thing probably because that's what cause the original idea that made Vic put the hook on Sak's in the early 90's, because they had to wrap up postal parcels with string in Switzerland, and a hook on a sak would be handy to help carry them.
Post by: Don Pablo on March 20, 2017, 11:10:54 AM
Post by: Mattexian on March 20, 2017, 02:30:55 PM
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Post by: El Corkscrew on March 20, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
the day i see someone walk into the post office with a stack of brown paper wrapped parcels and string being toted by a vic hook is the day when I give all my saks away, what year is this 1948? In fact if that has ever been done by a living human being I would be shocked
Lmk which post office we can meet at! I'll bring the string-bound packages hung by El Hook and you bring your SAKs! :rofl: :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 20, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
One could also use it for carrying an overloaded plastic grocery sack, so it doesn't cut into your fingers. (Tho before I had a SAK with the hook, I just used the whole knife handle as a support, to spread out the strain.)
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I hadn't thought about just using the whole darn thing! :cheers:
Post by: Ron Who on March 20, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
Maybe we should have a "Never used the hook Club"?
The "Never used an awl Club" was pretty succesful!
Post by: WolfyW on March 20, 2017, 06:20:11 PM
There's a post somewhere with over 50 uses of the hook. I never used it myself though.
Maybe we should have a "Never used the hook Club"?
The "Never used an awl Club" was pretty succesful!
While I'm awaiting my first hook use, I had my first awl use the first week I bought my first SAK. Bought a very cheap belt for my work pants and bought it a size small. Hole making 101 for me 😁
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 20, 2017, 06:27:48 PM
\There's a post somewhere with over 50 uses of the hook. I never used it myself though.
Maybe we should have a "Never used the hook Club"?
The "Never used an awl Club" was pretty succesful!
While I'm awaiting my first hook use, I had my first awl use the first week I bought my first SAK. Bought a very cheap belt for my work pants and bought it a size small. Hole making 101 for me 😁
Heck yeah! Works like a charm doesn't it? Does an amazing job at putting a hole in pretty much anything. :cheers:
Post by: Mactire404 on March 20, 2017, 11:14:10 PM
...I think people always tend associate the hook with the parcel carrier thing probably because that's what cause the original idea that made Vic put the hook on Sak's in the early 90's, because they had to wrap up postal parcels with string in Switzerland, and a hook on a sak would be handy to help carry them...
I guess that's how it hot stuck in my head. It's a shame I don't have the old instruction leaflet. I'm really curious right now. There doesn't happen to be a source for old Vic instruction leaflets right? That would be convenient. (I think I'm going to scan my manuals/leaflets. Might be handy for dating sometimes too, if you get a box that is).
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 21, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
:cheers:
I'm sure everyone has already seen this historic piece of film:
https://youtu.be/cN231NO5ij0
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 21, 2017, 05:55:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4u9Pbj4gxDQJhc28uwceA
I'm sure he's a knight.... I wonder which of you it is :think:
Post by: Blackbeard on March 21, 2017, 06:17:02 AM
Post by: El Corkscrew on March 21, 2017, 07:24:08 AM
that video should be called "20 things you will never do with your sak"
haha!!! Yes!!! I'm glad you watched it. :cheers:
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 11, 2017, 01:53:03 AM
:cheers:
I'm sure everyone has already seen this historic piece of film:
https://youtu.be/cN231NO5ij0
I was thinking of that video as I read through the thread, glad someone had already posted it, otherwise I would have searched for it. :tu:
One of the reason's I love having a SAk and "the hook" is for what you can come up with with some ingenuity. Like around the 22 minute mark where he retrieves his keys off the roof. How many times have you opened your car door, or retrieved your keys from pocket standing over a storm drain? Comforting to know that with a SAK and a shoelace or two you might be able to retrieve them!
I love the hook, the video just helps remind me of so many different ways it could come in handy. (future reference)
Post by: ironraven on July 11, 2017, 02:07:59 AM
Last night, I used it to build a pair of 100' paracord crullers (like a paracord donut, only not a torus). I use it for a lot of different lashing projects and paracord work in general, actually. They get used for tightening lacing in my shoes and boots, in various packs, and one more than one occasion it has come out for snugging up corsets. (A man has friends with hobbies- if you're judging, you're really just jealous). And without it, the pen is much less useful.
But I do think the nailfile hook should be standard. Why only on the Compact? It is an amazing striker for strike anywhere matches along with fingernails
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 03:20:00 AM
The hook is one of my favorite tools- I use it to test people's imaginations.
Last night, I used it to build a pair of 100' paracord crullers (like a paracord donut, only not a torus). I use it for a lot of different lashing projects and paracord work in general, actually. They get used for tightening lacing in my shoes and boots, in various packs, and one more than one occasion it has come out for snugging up corsets. (A man has friends with hobbies- if you're judging, you're really just jealous). And without it, the pen is much less useful.
But I do think the nailfile hook should be standard. Why only on the Compact? It is an amazing striker for strike anywhere matches along with fingernails
:like: :salute:
I agree about the file hook. Other members have pointed out that the file hook comes on the Traveller and some variations of the SwissChamp. :cheers:
Post by: theonew on July 11, 2017, 04:49:52 AM
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,54903.msg957500.html#msg957500
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
I really hope if they ever bring back the small climber or salesman they don't have the sad idea to put a hook on the back of the scissors spring and just keep it like the original.
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 10:12:49 AM
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 11:24:10 AM
If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Oh yeah... didn't thought of that one, meaning the Pen... :oops: well there are some guys that store the Pin under the hook so i thought that's what EC meant...
Yes it does come in handy for that too, but again, for me i don't consider it essential (hook or pen/plus scales for that matter...). Come to think of it, i don't even have a single Sak with Plus scales on it... :think:
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 12:33:54 PM
If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Oh yeah... didn't thought of that one, meaning the Pen... :oops: well there are some guys that store the Pin under the hook so i thought that's what EC meant...
Yes it does come in handy for that too, but again, for me i don't consider it essential (hook or pen/plus scales for that matter...). Come to think of it, i don't even have a single Sak with Plus scales on it... :think:
For sure, the essential Climber for me is a Pioneer X, but nice to have the extras on board occasionally. :tu: :cheers:
Post by: magentus on July 11, 2017, 12:34:41 PM
Does anyone else miss poor old Pioneer X? I miss the old dude.If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Oh yeah... didn't thought of that one, meaning the Pen... :oops: well there are some guys that store the Pin under the hook so i thought that's what EC meant...
Yes it does come in handy for that too, but again, for me i don't consider it essential (hook or pen/plus scales for that matter...). Come to think of it, i don't even have a single Sak with Plus scales on it... :think:
For sure, the essential Climber for me is a Pioneer X, but nice to have the extras on board occasionally. :tu: :cheers:
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
Does anyone else miss poor old Pioneer X? I miss the old dude.If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Oh yeah... didn't thought of that one, meaning the Pen... :oops: well there are some guys that store the Pin under the hook so i thought that's what EC meant...
Yes it does come in handy for that too, but again, for me i don't consider it essential (hook or pen/plus scales for that matter...). Come to think of it, i don't even have a single Sak with Plus scales on it... :think:
For sure, the essential Climber for me is a Pioneer X, but nice to have the extras on board occasionally. :tu: :cheers:
Much like El Pikacthulhu, Unit 3 will never completely disappear from the map. :D
Sadly, both are hookless (relating to the thread to avoid a major derailment)... :ahhh
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 01:47:42 PM
Does anyone else miss poor old Pioneer X? I miss the old dude.If I'm sporting Plus scales and don't have the hook to hold the pin I'm all like :td:
I understand that mate, but all 84/91 current scales have the pin hole (plus or standard), except the nylon ones i think... :think: so no need for the hook for that...
That might be a typo Mac. :salute:
Oh yeah... didn't thought of that one, meaning the Pen... :oops: well there are some guys that store the Pin under the hook so i thought that's what EC meant...
Yes it does come in handy for that too, but again, for me i don't consider it essential (hook or pen/plus scales for that matter...). Come to think of it, i don't even have a single Sak with Plus scales on it... :think:
For sure, the essential Climber for me is a Pioneer X, but nice to have the extras on board occasionally. :tu: :cheers:
Much like El Pikacthulhu, Unit 3 will never completely disappear from the map. :D
Sadly, both are hookless (relating to the thread to avoid a major derailment)... :ahhh
Well... even though i like the 93mm Alox line, for the main EDC Sak i'm still firmly on the Cellidor camp :cheers:
These days specifically on the 84mm Cellidor camp... :salute: It seams weird but when ever i pick up a 91mm these days it just feels huge to me... :facepalm: for the pocket at least...
Post by: magentus on July 11, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
Did Macgyver ever edc an Alox model?
Nope. The only "non standard" model he had other than the classic red cellidor models was the hard wood spartan on "Serenity" :cheers:
Post by: magentus on July 11, 2017, 02:39:37 PM
Keepin' it Real!
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 02:43:17 PM
:salute:
Keepin' it Real!
Well, it had some influence i can't deny... :facepalm:
But my love for the red cellidor with the cross and shield logo came way before Macgyver... :drink:
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 02:53:03 PM
Post by: magentus on July 11, 2017, 02:55:58 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:Same reason we could prolly manage our lives with just one SAK, but none of us (not even Monrogue) does. :pok: :D
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 03:06:35 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:Same reason we could prolly manage our lives with just one SAK, but none of us (not even Monrogue) does. :pok: :D
Speaking of which, I did hear through the grapevine that Unit 1 is browsing travel brochures, and preparing for world travel. :D
Post by: magentus on July 11, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
The fabled 11th Anniversary Celebratory Global Passaround (or 11ACGP) eh? Can't wait. I must say, the passaround is prolly the only thing standing between Mo and Madam Guillotine currently.They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:Same reason we could prolly manage our lives with just one SAK, but none of us (not even Monrogue) does. :pok: :D
Speaking of which, I did hear through the grapevine that Unit 1 is browsing travel brochures, and preparing for world travel. :D
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 03:14:28 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:
Well that's true, and he actually used a Huntsman in 2 or 3 Ep's :D
But the idea for the character and the use of Sak's was always the minimalist aspect, his mind was the "real" Sak, while the actual Sak was just a tool he used to help achieve his goal. Not a guy using a load of gadget's... (like the current Macgyver reboot... :whistle:)
People tend to fantasize a lot about the Sak's used on the show, like there was some kind of master purpose for all the different ones, but there really wasn't in general... Unless they actually needed a very specific tool (scissors or saw, or the orange peeler... :whistle:), 90% of the time he just used the blades, opener's, awl, and philips/corkscrew.
He used a lot of different models because they bought a whole box of them for the show, and RDA sure destroyed a load of them as he already admitted (150 plus...), either on the actual shoot's or in his spare time, throwing them and sticking them everywhere... :rofl: That's probably the main reason they wen't thru so many, and so many models :facepalm:
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 05:24:09 PM
Did Macgyver ever edc an Alox model?
Dude, you gotta pay more attention when watching El Videos :facepalm: :D :rofl:
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 05:25:17 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:
Well that's true, and he actually used a Huntsman in 2 or 3 Ep's :D
But the idea for the character and the use of Sak's was always the minimalist aspect, his mind was the "real" Sak, while the actual Sak was just a tool he used to help achieve his goal. Not a guy using a load of gadget's... (like the current Macgyver reboot... :whistle:)
People tend to fantasize a lot about the Sak's used on the show, like there was some kind of master purpose for all the different ones, but there really wasn't in general... Unless they actually needed a very specific tool (scissors or saw, or the orange peeler... :whistle:), 90% of the time he just used the blades, opener's, awl, and philips/corkscrew.
He used a lot of different models because they bought a whole box of them for the show, and RDA sure destroyed a load of them as he already admitted (150 plus...), either on the actual shoot's or in his spare time, throwing them and sticking them everywhere... :rofl: That's probably the main reason they wen't thru so many, and so many models :facepalm:
Just going back through season 1, pretty sure I noticed him going from 84mm to Executive in the same scene. :D
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 05:35:31 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:
Well that's true, and he actually used a Huntsman in 2 or 3 Ep's :D
But the idea for the character and the use of Sak's was always the minimalist aspect, his mind was the "real" Sak, while the actual Sak was just a tool he used to help achieve his goal. Not a guy using a load of gadget's... (like the current Macgyver reboot... :whistle:)
People tend to fantasize a lot about the Sak's used on the show, like there was some kind of master purpose for all the different ones, but there really wasn't in general... Unless they actually needed a very specific tool (scissors or saw, or the orange peeler... :whistle:), 90% of the time he just used the blades, opener's, awl, and philips/corkscrew.
He used a lot of different models because they bought a whole box of them for the show, and RDA sure destroyed a load of them as he already admitted (150 plus...), either on the actual shoot's or in his spare time, throwing them and sticking them everywhere... :rofl: That's probably the main reason they wen't thru so many, and so many models :facepalm:
Just going back through season 1, pretty sure I noticed him going from 84mm to Executive in the same scene. :D
Oh yeah, i thinks it's the one called "Hellfire" where him and his friend are getting some dynamite to put out the fire on a oil drilling weal. He is using the small tinker blade so scrape the nitro from the bottom of the dynamite box in one shot (of his hands), and on the same but shot facing them and the dynamite box he has an Executive you can clearly see the ring on top of the main blade :whistle: Clearly the shot's where filmed in two different days. The shot of his hand's and the Tinker it may not even be him (RDA) as he said in interviews his brother doubled him in some "hand" shot's because their hand's are very alike... :rofl:
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 05:43:28 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:
Well that's true, and he actually used a Huntsman in 2 or 3 Ep's :D
But the idea for the character and the use of Sak's was always the minimalist aspect, his mind was the "real" Sak, while the actual Sak was just a tool he used to help achieve his goal. Not a guy using a load of gadget's... (like the current Macgyver reboot... :whistle:)
People tend to fantasize a lot about the Sak's used on the show, like there was some kind of master purpose for all the different ones, but there really wasn't in general... Unless they actually needed a very specific tool (scissors or saw, or the orange peeler... :whistle:), 90% of the time he just used the blades, opener's, awl, and philips/corkscrew.
He used a lot of different models because they bought a whole box of them for the show, and RDA sure destroyed a load of them as he already admitted (150 plus...), either on the actual shoot's or in his spare time, throwing them and sticking them everywhere... :rofl: That's probably the main reason they wen't thru so many, and so many models :facepalm:
Just going back through season 1, pretty sure I noticed him going from 84mm to Executive in the same scene. :D
Oh yeah, i thinks it's the one called "Hellfire" where him and his friend are getting some dynamite to put out the fire on a oil drilling weal. He is using the small tinker blade so scrape the nitro from the bottom of the dynamite box in one shot (of his hands), and on the same but shot facing them and the dynamite box he has an Executive you can clearly see the ring on top of the main blade :whistle: Clearly the shot's where filmed in two different days. The shot of his hand's and the Tinker it may not even be him (RDA) as he said in interviews his brother doubled him in some "hand" shot's because their hand's are very alike... :rofl:
EXACTLY :cheers:
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Did Macgyver ever edc an Alox model?
Dude, you gotta pay more attention when watching El Videos :facepalm: :D :rofl:
No kidding, there's this one episode that, hey look a squirrel! :pommel:
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
They could have managed the whole series with a Huntsman, not sure why they didn't. :think:
Well that's true, and he actually used a Huntsman in 2 or 3 Ep's :D
But the idea for the character and the use of Sak's was always the minimalist aspect, his mind was the "real" Sak, while the actual Sak was just a tool he used to help achieve his goal. Not a guy using a load of gadget's... (like the current Macgyver reboot... :whistle:)
People tend to fantasize a lot about the Sak's used on the show, like there was some kind of master purpose for all the different ones, but there really wasn't in general... Unless they actually needed a very specific tool (scissors or saw, or the orange peeler... :whistle:), 90% of the time he just used the blades, opener's, awl, and philips/corkscrew.
He used a lot of different models because they bought a whole box of them for the show, and RDA sure destroyed a load of them as he already admitted (150 plus...), either on the actual shoot's or in his spare time, throwing them and sticking them everywhere... :rofl: That's probably the main reason they wen't thru so many, and so many models :facepalm:
Just going back through season 1, pretty sure I noticed him going from 84mm to Executive in the same scene. :D
Oh yeah, i thinks it's the one called "Hellfire" where him and his friend are getting some dynamite to put out the fire on a oil drilling weal. He is using the small tinker blade so scrape the nitro from the bottom of the dynamite box in one shot (of his hands), and on the same but shot facing them and the dynamite box he has an Executive you can clearly see the ring on top of the main blade :whistle: Clearly the shot's where filmed in two different days. The shot of his hand's and the Tinker it may not even be him (RDA) as he said in interviews his brother doubled him in some "hand" shot's because their hand's are very alike... :rofl:
EXACTLY :cheers:
Here are the two shot's (sorry for crap quality)
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 11, 2017, 05:56:41 PM
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
Seca demais indeed.
:rofl:
Post by: twiliter on July 11, 2017, 06:11:18 PM
Seca demais indeed.
:rofl:
Oh my :rofl:
Quote of the week!
Post by: Borg on July 11, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
If nothing else its great for hanging off the bucket of a rusty old excavator toy for a photo op :tu:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4229/35728202351_1787b674e4.jpg)
Post by: MacGyver on July 11, 2017, 06:27:16 PM
Cant say i have ever used the hook in anger, but i do like having it
If nothing else its great for hanging off the bucket of a rusty old excavator toy for a photo op :tu:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4229/35728202351_1787b674e4.jpg)
:like:
Post by: strmliner on July 16, 2017, 11:07:46 PM
:cough cough: The hook was introduced n 1991 :cough cough:the day i see someone walk into the post office with a stack of brown paper wrapped parcels and string being toted by a vic hook is the day when I give all my saks away, what year is this 1948? In fact if that has ever been done by a living human being I would be shocked
??? ??? ??? Ookkk....
ITS NOT FOR CARRYING PARCELS. :D
Its a hook shaped piece of metal that can save your bacon(or cook it easier) in lots of situations,
and why would anyone want no tool rather than a hook?
So far, a hook hasn't saved the day or my bacon.
I purposely focused on buying pre-1990 SAKs (91mm) w/scissors that I could clean up, re-scale w/plus scales so I didn't have the hook. I only have a small handful of SAKs that have a hook...primarily in order to get the StayGlo scales.
As for no tool vs the hook, on my Golfers I get the Awl vs the hook...a worthwhile trade if you ask me.
Post by: shadowrider on July 17, 2017, 03:57:59 AM
I would open the hook all the way, tie a string to the knife ring and voilà!
I think it happened to Macgyver once, and he used the can opener instead... I don't think that would be very doable.
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 17, 2017, 04:08:06 AM
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 17, 2017, 04:12:46 AM
Just in the past week at scout camp, I used my Climber's hook to haul a gallon of BBQ sauce in a bag a half mile, loosen a too tight end of a minimag light, undo a tent knot.....etc. I've become a huge fan of the hook!!
:like: :like: :like: :like:
I used it hold El Pen, pull out a hot oven rack, hold open a key ring, and open many a box.
True story.
:salute:
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 17, 2017, 04:29:55 AM
Just in the past week at scout camp, I used my Climber's hook to haul a gallon of BBQ sauce in a bag a half mile, loosen a too tight end of a minimag light, undo a tent knot.....etc. I've become a huge fan of the hook!!
Awesome :tu:
It's seems like once you start using it and remember it's there you start finding all sorts of uses for it.
Post by: Faddy Daddy on July 17, 2017, 04:31:39 AM
Just in the past week at scout camp, I used my Climber's hook to haul a gallon of BBQ sauce in a bag a half mile, loosen a too tight end of a minimag light, undo a tent knot.....etc. I've become a huge fan of the hook!!
:like: :like: :like: :like:
I used it hold El Pen, pull out a hot oven rack, hold open a key ring, and open many a box.
True story.
:salute:
Oh man, keeping a key ring open is a new one! Excellent idea El Corkscrew n :tu:
Post by: Barry Rowland on July 17, 2017, 04:51:33 AM
Post by: MacGyver on July 17, 2017, 09:55:33 AM
I it happened to Macgyver once, and he used the can opener instead... I don't think that would be very doable.
Yup, it was on Cleo Rocks to defuse a trap door Murdoc had prepared for him and Pete. He used a standard Spartan on that one, no keyring and t&t. He used the cord from his jacket and wrapped it around the sak and through the corkscrew to keep it straight, but even so chances of actually working for real are very slim, the sak is too light and won't hold still enough to aim acuratly.
Hook is better for that, or fishing your keys from the drainage :D
Oh man, keeping a key ring open is a new one! Excellent idea El Corkscrew n :tu:
Oh yeah, I use that one all the time too, but I use the can opener, works best to pry it open :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on July 17, 2017, 10:54:05 AM
Oh yeah, I use that one all the time too, but I use the can opener, works best to pry it open :cheers:
But what about that wasted lateral space?? Depends on the keyring your dealing with I guess. :cheers:
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 09, 2017, 05:11:51 AM
I just watched part of that video that demonstrates 79 uses for this hook, and I have got to say, it plays like any stupid commercial television advertisement that wants to sell me something dumass like an automatic pants buttoner. The kind where they show a close up of someone half-assedly "trying" in vain to button their pants only to give up in mock frustration because buttoning pants must be beyond them.
Cue voiceover "tired of bottoning your Levi' s 501's only to fail like a 3-year old and get blisters on your thumb? Try the acme pants buttoner!"
So, in the video, the guy is trying to open a drawer whose handle is missing. He takes out his SAK and extends the hook, inserts the hook sideways, spins it, and pulls open the drawer. Hooray!. Dude...I would have opened the drawer below it, pulled out the handle-less drawer, an then used the screwdriver to affix a proper handle. Problem solved-ved for next time.
Watching that video, I presume not a kitchen in the nation has oven mitts, pot holders, or even a towel. Or that the corkscrew is somehow useless as a device to twist wire. Or that we have to pretend that the same arm strength was not used to pull the rubber faster over the nub of the bike rack. I could go on.
According to what I saw of that video, I suppose that we would have to suspend all logic and horse-sense, just to reach and stretch to find uses for the hook. Personally, I feel that most uses for the hook are invented, manufactured...the hook was pressed into service because it was there and we had to find SONETHING to do with it. Must uses can and have been done by using a different tool on the same SAK.
No offense to anyone who likes the hook. Meant comically, but it really is my view.
Post by: Faddy Daddy on August 09, 2017, 05:24:14 AM
Sorry in advance to all of those who are "hooked" on this tool, but if the initial reason the hook was added was for parcel carrying, I don't know what to say.
I just watched part of that video that demonstrates 79 uses for this hook, and I have got to say, it plays like any stupid commercial television advertisement that wants to sell me something dumass like an automatic pants buttoner. The kind where they show a close up of someone half-assedly "trying" in vain to button their pants only to give up in mock frustration because buttoning pants must be beyond them.
Cue voiceover "tired of bottoning your Levi' s 501's only to fail like a 3-year old and get blisters on your thumb? Try the acme pants buttoner!"
So, in the video, the guy is trying to open a drawer whose handle is missing. He takes out his SAK and extends the hook, inserts the hook sideways, spins it, and pulls open the drawer. Hooray!. Dude...I would have opened the drawer below it, pulled out the handle-less drawer, an then used the screwdriver to affix a proper handle. Problem solved-ved for next time.
Watching that video, I presume not a kitchen in the nation has oven mitts, pot holders, or even a towel. Or that the corkscrew is somehow useless as a device to twist wire. Or that we have to pretend that the same arm strength was not used to pull the rubber faster over the nub of the bike rack. I could go on.
According to what I saw of that video, I suppose that we would have to suspend all logic and horse-sense, just to reach and stretch to find uses for the hook. Personally, I feel that most uses for the hook are invented, manufactured...the hook was pressed into service because it was there and we had to find SONETHING to do with it. Must uses can and have been done by using a different tool on the same SAK.
No offense to anyone who likes the hook. Meant comically, but it really is my view.
There's an Automatic Pants Buttoner? :o
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 09, 2017, 05:36:53 AM
Just in the past week at scout camp, I used my Climber's hook to haul a gallon of BBQ sauce in a bag a half mile, loosen a too tight end of a minimag light, undo a tent knot.....etc. I've become a huge fan of the hook!!
Awesome :tu:
It's seems like once you start using it and remember it's there you start finding all sorts of uses for it.
Again...no disrespect to anyone who likes the hook, but for me, one shouldn't have to "find" uses for a tool on a Leatherman or a SAK. The individual tools should alteady have an overwhelming need to be there, as all the other ones do. Believe me, I will come up with my own host of odd ,creative and improper uses all by my one-seys, but it ought to have been worth more to R & D than to just say "let's change the entire production line from this moment forth, and put one of these hooks on a huge portion of our products. Someone will figure out SOMETHING to do with it..."
I just think that anything I can do with that hook I can do with my bare hands, some common sense, or some other tool on the SAK.
The guys on Apollo 13 would have looked at it sideways and moved on to one of the other tools so they could do the real work at hand. I find it useless at worst, redundant at best.
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 09, 2017, 05:39:10 AM
Sorry in advance to all of those who are "hooked" on this tool, but if the initial reason the hook was added was for parcel carrying, I don't know what to say.
I just watched part of that video that demonstrates 79 uses for this hook, and I have got to say, it plays like any stupid commercial television advertisement that wants to sell me something dumass like an automatic pants buttoner. The kind where they show a close up of someone half-assedly "trying" in vain to button their pants only to give up in mock frustration because buttoning pants must be beyond them.
Cue voiceover "tired of bottoning your Levi' s 501's only to fail like a 3-year old and get blisters on your thumb? Try the acme pants buttoner!"
So, in the video, the guy is trying to open a drawer whose handle is missing. He takes out his SAK and extends the hook, inserts the hook sideways, spins it, and pulls open the drawer. Hooray!. Dude...I would have opened the drawer below it, pulled out the handle-less drawer, an then used the screwdriver to affix a proper handle. Problem solved-ved for next time.
Watching that video, I presume not a kitchen in the nation has oven mitts, pot holders, or even a towel. Or that the corkscrew is somehow useless as a device to twist wire. Or that we have to pretend that the same arm strength was not used to pull the rubber faster over the nub of the bike rack. I could go on.
According to what I saw of that video, I suppose that we would have to suspend all logic and horse-sense, just to reach and stretch to find uses for the hook. Personally, I feel that most uses for the hook are invented, manufactured...the hook was pressed into service because it was there and we had to find SONETHING to do with it. Must uses can and have been done by using a different tool on the same SAK.
No offense to anyone who likes the hook. Meant comically, but it really is my view.
There's an Automatic Pants Buttoner? :o
Ha ha ! Thank you Faddy, that gave me a belly and wheeze laugh!
Post by: theonew on August 09, 2017, 05:55:59 AM
Link to the automatic pants buttoner please?
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 04:40:39 PM
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Post by: shibafu on August 09, 2017, 04:52:18 PM
There's an Automatic Pants Buttoner? :o
Only on the XAVT.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
And the Wenger Giant has several inside the TARDIS implement. 8)There's an Automatic Pants Buttoner? :o
Only on the XAVT.
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 09, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
Post by: Syph007 on August 09, 2017, 05:39:13 PM
As for what else shoudl be there? On a compact model the awl should be there. On a standard model some type of bit driver or holder.
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 09, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
Ya its only a use for the hook, IF you cant tackle the problem with any other standard SAK tool like an opener and blade. I think its ideal for a parcel carrier and if I ever get a twine bound parcel Im set! Most other uses I see could also be solved with the can opener or blade or a finger or tweezers or whatever.
As for what else shoudl be there? On a compact model the awl should be there. On a standard model some type of bit driver or holder.
There is the obvious penholder. Have you looked through the other pages of this thread?
the other obvious application is just picking up anything you don't want your skin to touch. The rounded edges make it very ideal for stretching out guitar strings and spare my fingers from being pinched.
I do use it a lot for the toaster oven in the oven at work as there is not a potholder handy and it's faster to grab A knife out of my pocket, then it is to find something to protect my fingers.
It would be pretty useful for getting through a Barbed wire fence as well, I would imagine.
Post by: Syph007 on August 09, 2017, 05:47:03 PM
Ya its only a use for the hook, IF you cant tackle the problem with any other standard SAK tool like an opener and blade. I think its ideal for a parcel carrier and if I ever get a twine bound parcel Im set! Most other uses I see could also be solved with the can opener or blade or a finger or tweezers or whatever.
As for what else shoudl be there? On a compact model the awl should be there. On a standard model some type of bit driver or holder.
There is the obvious penholder. Have you looked through the other pages of this thread?
the other obvious application is just picking up anything you don't want your skin to touch. The rounded edges make it very ideal for stretching out guitar strings and spare my fingers from being pinched.
I do use it a lot for the toaster oven in the oven at work as there is not a potholder handy and it's faster to grab A knife out of my pocket, then it is to find something to protect my fingers.
It would be pretty useful for getting through a Barbed wire fence as well, I would imagine.
Ah ya I have tried the penholder idea and that works. But I can also hold it with my fingers fine. I use the can opener as a puller type tool the same way people use the hook, and I find it more convenient to deploy. I didnt watch that whole video but i suspect its a very many less that 79 things the hook can do that another tool cant.
Ive had people pay me extra to use an old style spring just so they didnt have the hook there. Some people loathe it! lol. Im not that extreme it doesnt bother me to have it there, I just dont use it.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 06:31:53 PM
Ive had people pay me extra to use an old style spring just so they didnt have the hook there.:rofl:
Do you still have dozen of hooks and matching springs in a box?
If I ever tear apart my bladeless Woodsman again, I'd change the scissors spring to the new style and add the hook. An added fish scaler is an option too. :think:
But that would be months in the future, so nevermind that for now.
An idea, maybe you could arrange with Grant to sell a few extra tools and springs in the MTO store? :think:
But theres probably obstacles preventing that, so, just a mad idea then.
Post by: MacGyver on August 09, 2017, 06:54:34 PM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
While i don't hate the hook and find it useful for certain things, i don't think it's essential by far, so i wouldn't miss it much if it was not there.
As far as aesthetics go, i have to say i like the look of the plain scissors spring flush with the liners better, especially on 3 layers being on the middle layer. To me it just looks good, don't ask me why... :facepalm:
I absolutely love the look of the small climber with that middle spring flush :drool:
(https://leaf-vics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/508_04.jpg)
P.S.: LeaF i borrowed your pic, i hope you don't mind :cheers:
Post by: Syph007 on August 09, 2017, 07:11:25 PM
Ive had people pay me extra to use an old style spring just so they didnt have the hook there.:rofl:
Do you still have dozen of hooks and matching springs in a box?
If I ever tear apart my bladeless Woodsman again, I'd change the scissors spring to the new style and add the hook. An added fish scaler is an option too. :think:
But that would be months in the future, so nevermind that for now.
An idea, maybe you could arrange with Grant to sell a few extra tools and springs in the MTO store? :think:
But theres probably obstacles preventing that, so, just a mad idea then.
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Post by: VICMAN on August 09, 2017, 07:50:05 PM
Post by: Zhenchok on August 09, 2017, 07:55:24 PM
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Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 07:57:02 PM
I don't have a hook yet or a saw on a SAK, really want one now.Get a SAK with a hook, and a SAK with a Saw. :tu:
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Or better yet, get one with both! :D
Even if it turns out that you don't like the hook, the saw will be useful for outdoors. :tu:
Post by: strmliner on August 09, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 09, 2017, 08:00:19 PM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Hi Pablo,
I would rather it had been left well enough alone. No tool necessary there. Just nice clean flat back spring.
Yes, the hook was introduced in 1991 as a parcel carrier. That is what is insane about it. When in 1991 did anyone think that then, or in the future,packages would be bound in twine, and that it was mission critical that SAK s assist in carrying them.
The hook may not take up much space, but it does bulge out a bit - more than the awl or Philips- and ruins the lines of the tool. But my biggest gripe is...how did a corporate committee decide that humanity could not do without a tool that has no specific purpose. And they would have had to vote that in, design it, cost it out and alter the production process to do add it. That takes a lot of time effort and expense to add a tool that has no specific purpose assigned to it.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 08:03:39 PM
I think that it does need more hooks! :drink: :D
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
I'd like to see a SAK with lots of hooks, in the same vein as this one. :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55385.msg970096.html#msg970096
Post by: strmliner on August 09, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
I think that it does need more hooks! :drink: :D
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
I'd like to see a SAK with lots of hooks, in the same vein as this one. :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55385.msg970096.html#msg970096
I guess that would be a task for some idle hands with absolutely nothing better to do...right?
Or how about giving them to a school trying to raise money so the kids can make Christmas ornaments? Better yet, how about to a jewelry designer who can make dangly earrings to sell at Vx distributors? See, Pablo, there can be a use for hooks with no life. :think:
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 09, 2017, 09:23:23 PM
Post by: Syph007 on August 09, 2017, 09:27:19 PM
I think that it does need more hooks! :drink: :D
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
I'd like to see a SAK with lots of hooks, in the same vein as this one. :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55385.msg970096.html#msg970096
LOL ok challenge accepted. I'll make a SAK with as many hooks as I can. LOL
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
I understand, I like symmetrical patterns, and the pattern that you get with no hook(like on old climber, or a camper) is nicer than the pattern with hook. :cheers:
As far as aesthetics go, i have to say i like the look of the plain scissors spring flush with the liners better, especially on 3 layers being on the middle layer. To me it just looks good, don't ask me why... :facepalm:
I absolutely love the look of the small climber with that middle spring flush :drool:
(https://leaf-vics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/508_04.jpg)
P.S.: LeaF i borrowed your pic, i hope you don't mind :cheers:
Funny thing, using that argument, my bladeless Woodsman needs a hook to look nice and pretty. :rofl:
(http://i.imgur.com/FztZYou.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FztZYou)
See where the Awl would normally go? That's where I put the scissor layer. And the only thing that fits there without modification is... The Hook. :D
I plan to put the hook there, sometime when I aquire one and I don't dread the thought of taking this mod apart for the 3rd time. :)
Post by: Don Pablo on August 09, 2017, 09:36:23 PM
Pics if you do it! :rofl:I think that it does need more hooks! :drink: :D
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
I'd like to see a SAK with lots of hooks, in the same vein as this one. :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55385.msg970096.html#msg970096
LOL ok challenge accepted. I'll make a SAK with as many hooks as I can. LOL
Post by: twiliter on August 09, 2017, 10:34:10 PM
Everyone without a hook badge needs to vacate the premises. :SAKnight:
Or go sit on the naughty step for a while, or something. :P
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 10, 2017, 12:12:38 AM
Post by: strmliner on August 10, 2017, 12:21:30 AM
Did you expect this much hate when you welcomed criticism in the original post El C? :facepalm:
Everyone without a hook badge needs to vacate the premises. :SAKnight:
Or go sit on the naughty step for a while, or something. :P
Oh soo theatening there Twilight...not to worry, I've got a Get off the Naughty Step card, so I can criticize hooks to my hearts content...
Post by: twiliter on August 10, 2017, 12:45:15 AM
Post by: Syph007 on August 10, 2017, 12:47:50 AM
Pics if you do it! :rofl:I think that it does need more hooks! :drink: :D
When I used to add scissors to alox mods I bought hundreds of climbers just to take the scissors from so I still have all those backsprings and hooks in a box doing nothing.
Wow Robert, I'd be careful there. The last thing we'd want is for all those hooks to start reproducing...this world doesn't need more SAK Hooks! :drink:
I'd like to see a SAK with lots of hooks, in the same vein as this one. :rofl:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,55385.msg970096.html#msg970096
LOL ok challenge accepted. I'll make a SAK with as many hooks as I can. LOL
Will do. Look for a thread titled "I'm hooked on this SAK!" It will have at least 20, possibly 30 if I can fit 3 per layer.
Post by: strmliner on August 10, 2017, 01:24:17 AM
The last time I used the hook was when I was remaking my neck lanyard. It's not a tool I use often, but as the alternative is no tool (just a backspring) I'm happy for the hook to be there in case I need it :tu:
That's where a Marlin Spike comes in handy. One like found on the Sea Pioneer works best for paracord-type work, though the one on my Vx Helmsman does a tolerable job. I'd love to find one like the Sea Pioneer to put on a 91mm SAK.
Post by: Nix on August 10, 2017, 04:46:14 AM
I had lost my SAK somewhere during the trip, can't remember the model anymore, and, in a panic, I ran into a sporting goods store in Jackson. After checking out a couple models, I settled on a Fieldmaster. When I realized the knife had a hook--the first I'd ever seen on a SAK--I thought, "well that's stupid." I told the sales rep that it seemed like a waste to add a useless 'tool' like the hook. But, since a hookless Fieldmaster wasn't an option, I bought the knife and proceeded on my way.
Sure enough, the hook started becoming useful. First for lifting a hot pot off a camp fire by it's bail. Then tightening the laces on cross-country ski boots while wearing gloves. And then opening boxes where the ends are tucked in with tabs. Then tying some knots. The more I used the hook, the more I came to appreciate it. I came to think of the hook as a tiny little GI Joe 'kung-foo grip' hand that I could slip into tight spaces to pull, lift, or yank on something.
I have two Climber model SAK's, one with the hook, and one without. Yeah, the one I slip into my pocket the most is the one with the hook. And why knot?
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 10, 2017, 06:44:14 AM
I found myself without a SAK in Jackson, Wyoming, USA, once upon a time, during an extended car-camping trip. Call it 7 years ago. I might be wrong about that.:tu:
I had lost my SAK somewhere during the trip, can't remember the model anymore, and, in a panic, I ran into a sporting goods store in Jackson. After checking out a couple models, I settled on a Fieldmaster. When I realized the knife had a hook--the first I'd ever seen on a SAK--I thought, "well that's stupid." I told the sales rep that it seemed like a waste to add a useless 'tool' like the hook. But, since a hookless Fieldmaster wasn't an option, I bought the knife and proceeded on my way.
Sure enough, the hook started becoming useful. First for lifting a hot pot off a camp fire by it's bail. Then tightening the laces on cross-country ski boots while wearing gloves. And then opening boxes where the ends are tucked in with tabs. Then tying some knots. The more I used the hook, the more I came to appreciate it. I came to think of the hook as a tiny little GI Joe 'kung-foo grip' hand that I could slip into tight spaces to pull, lift, or yank on something.
I have two Climber model SAK's, one with the hook, and one without. Yeah, the one I slip into my pocket the most is the one with the hook. And why knot?
:like: :like: :tu: :salute:
Post by: twiliter on August 10, 2017, 11:41:47 AM
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 10, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
The last time I used the hook was when I was remaking my neck lanyard. It's not a tool I use often, but as the alternative is no tool (just a backspring) I'm happy for the hook to be there in case I need it :tu:
That's where a Marlin Spike comes in handy. One like found on the Sea Pioneer works best for paracord-type work, though the one on my Vx Helmsman does a tolerable job. I'd love to find one like the Sea Pioneer to put on a 91mm SAK.
I've never had a 93mm with one on, but I did have a 111mm with marlin spike. I never really got that much use from that style, as I found it too wide for anything I wanted to do, and I ended up getting rid of it. If I do need a marlin spike, I tend to reach for a British Army clasp knife. The marlin spike on that is great as it has a nice slow taper.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 10, 2017, 06:09:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/e5RDBjU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e5RDBjU)
Of course, the pull tab had to break when I tried to open the can, after taking the photo, so I needed pliers to finish the job. :facepalm:
Post by: strmliner on August 10, 2017, 07:22:07 PM
The last time I used the hook was when I was remaking my neck lanyard. It's not a tool I use often, but as the alternative is no tool (just a backspring) I'm happy for the hook to be there in case I need it :tu:
That's where a Marlin Spike comes in handy. One like found on the Sea Pioneer works best for paracord-type work, though the one on my Vx Helmsman does a tolerable job. I'd love to find one like the Sea Pioneer to put on a 91mm SAK.
I've never had a 93mm with one on, but I did have a 111mm with marlin spike. I never really got that much use from that style, as I found it too wide for anything I wanted to do, and I ended up getting rid of it. If I do need a marlin spike, I tend to reach for a British Army clasp knife. The marlin spike on that is great as it has a nice slow taper.
Yep, I know what you mean, though mine isn't worth much when I do any work on lines smaller than 1/4". The spike on the Helmsman will do the smaller lines, but I'm really looking forward someday to getting the thinner marlin spike like on the 93mm. :cheers:
Post by: strmliner on August 10, 2017, 07:25:12 PM
A use for the hook, opening big cans easily. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/e5RDBjU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e5RDBjU)
Of course, the pull tab had to break when I tried to open the can, after taking the photo, so I needed pliers to finish the job. :facepalm:
Well Pablo, as much as you like the Hook, it appears that it was the wrong tool for the job. Otherwise we'd have to say that you had an owner/operator error... :whistle:
Post by: Don Pablo on August 10, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Comprise, a combination of user error and design error? I mean, pulling the tab at the wrong angle is bad, but a standard sized tab on a big can is also bad... :think:A use for the hook, opening big cans easily. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/e5RDBjU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e5RDBjU)
Of course, the pull tab had to break when I tried to open the can, after taking the photo, so I needed pliers to finish the job. :facepalm:
Well Pablo, as much as you like the Hook, it appears that it was the wrong tool for the job. Otherwise we'd have to say that you had an owner/operator error... :whistle:
Post by: twiliter on August 10, 2017, 09:01:46 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 11, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Hi Pablo,
I would rather it had been left well enough alone. No tool necessary there. Just nice clean flat back spring.
Yes, the hook was introduced in 1991 as a parcel carrier. That is what is insane about it. When in 1991 did anyone think that then, or in the future,packages would be bound in twine, and that it was mission critical that SAK s assist in carrying them.
The hook may not take up much space, but it does bulge out a bit - more than the awl or Philips- and ruins the lines of the tool. But my biggest gripe is...how did a corporate committee decide that humanity could not do without a tool that has no specific purpose. And they would have had to vote that in, design it, cost it out and alter the production process to do add it. That takes a lot of time effort and expense to add a tool that has no specific purpose assigned to it.
Actually, please allow me to amend this statement. While I would have liked for them to leave this hook out of it and have a nice clean backstrap, I also would not mind seeing the awl moved to the center of the back, with a Philips AND a corkscrew, one on either side of the awl. If there had to be three tools down there, I think that would have been a better layout with much more use.
Post by: MacGyver on August 11, 2017, 07:42:03 PM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Hi Pablo,
I would rather it had been left well enough alone. No tool necessary there. Just nice clean flat back spring.
Yes, the hook was introduced in 1991 as a parcel carrier. That is what is insane about it. When in 1991 did anyone think that then, or in the future,packages would be bound in twine, and that it was mission critical that SAK s assist in carrying them.
The hook may not take up much space, but it does bulge out a bit - more than the awl or Philips- and ruins the lines of the tool. But my biggest gripe is...how did a corporate committee decide that humanity could not do without a tool that has no specific purpose. And they would have had to vote that in, design it, cost it out and alter the production process to do add it. That takes a lot of time effort and expense to add a tool that has no specific purpose assigned to it.
Actually, please allow me to amend this statement. While I would have liked for them to leave this hook out of it and have a nice clean backstrap, I also would not mind seeing the awl moved to the center of the back, with a Philips AND a corkscrew, one on either side of the awl. If there had to be three tools down there, I think that would have been a better layout with much more use.
Humm... :think: while it would be more usable, it would also require to have a cut out on the front and on the back of the Sak, and that would ruin the look of the Sak... :facepalm: :facepalm:
At least for me it would... :-\
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 12, 2017, 05:51:11 AM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Hi Pablo,
I would rather it had been left well enough alone. No tool necessary there. Just nice clean flat back spring.
Yes, the hook was introduced in 1991 as a parcel carrier. That is what is insane about it. When in 1991 did anyone think that then, or in the future,packages would be bound in twine, and that it was mission critical that SAK s assist in carrying them.
The hook may not take up much space, but it does bulge out a bit - more than the awl or Philips- and ruins the lines of the tool. But my biggest gripe is...how did a corporate committee decide that humanity could not do without a tool that has no specific purpose. And they would have had to vote that in, design it, cost it out and alter the production process to do add it. That takes a lot of time effort and expense to add a tool that has no specific purpose assigned to it.
Actually, please allow me to amend this statement. While I would have liked for them to leave this hook out of it and have a nice clean backstrap, I also would not mind seeing the awl moved to the center of the back, with a Philips AND a corkscrew, one on either side of the awl. If there had to be three tools down there, I think that would have been a better layout with much more use.
Humm... :think: while it would be more usable, it would also require to have a cut out on the front and on the back of the Sak, and that would ruin the look of the Sak... :facepalm: :facepalm:
At least for me it would... :-\
Mac, do you feel that the corkscrew/Phillips side of the SAK is unsightly? While the other side is elegant I it's simplicity, I like the cutout and would be fine with one on each side...wouldnt mind a SAK with 2 blades, 2 openers, saw, and scissors, awl, corkscrew and Phillips. And that's it.
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 12, 2017, 06:13:57 AM
Post by: MacGyver on August 12, 2017, 01:14:19 PM
I see what you're saying ThundahBeagle, and I understand, despite being a hook lover. :cheers:
Question, what would you put in the place of the hook?
Don't say awl, fine screwdriver, etc, because Victorinox seems to like pairing tools. So the Awl goes on the Can/Bottle opener layer, the hook on the scissors layer, etc. And I don't see them changing that anytime soon. :think:
Is the hook so bad that you would rather have no tool in that location, instead of the hook? We ran a poll a while back I think, and I got the impression that lots of people would rather have no tool on the scissors layer than have the hook, which I thought was kinda weird. :think: :rofl:
Because it takes up no space and doesn't compromise the integrity of the SAK. :think:
Oh, and some trivia. The hook was introduced in 1991, so it came along a bit late for carrying parcels wrapped in brown paper and string. :facepalm: :rofl:
Hi Pablo,
I would rather it had been left well enough alone. No tool necessary there. Just nice clean flat back spring.
Yes, the hook was introduced in 1991 as a parcel carrier. That is what is insane about it. When in 1991 did anyone think that then, or in the future,packages would be bound in twine, and that it was mission critical that SAK s assist in carrying them.
The hook may not take up much space, but it does bulge out a bit - more than the awl or Philips- and ruins the lines of the tool. But my biggest gripe is...how did a corporate committee decide that humanity could not do without a tool that has no specific purpose. And they would have had to vote that in, design it, cost it out and alter the production process to do add it. That takes a lot of time effort and expense to add a tool that has no specific purpose assigned to it.
Actually, please allow me to amend this statement. While I would have liked for them to leave this hook out of it and have a nice clean backstrap, I also would not mind seeing the awl moved to the center of the back, with a Philips AND a corkscrew, one on either side of the awl. If there had to be three tools down there, I think that would have been a better layout with much more use.
Humm... :think: while it would be more usable, it would also require to have a cut out on the front and on the back of the Sak, and that would ruin the look of the Sak... :facepalm: :facepalm:
At least for me it would... :-\
Mac, do you feel that the corkscrew/Phillips side of the SAK is unsightly? While the other side is elegant I it's simplicity, I like the cutout and would be fine with one on each side...wouldnt mind a SAK with 2 blades, 2 openers, saw, and scissors, awl, corkscrew and Phillips. And that's it.
Well i guess is just a matter of personal taste here. I love the current look of the 84/91mm sak's and wouldn't change a thing as far as asthetics go. I would however improve on some tools maybe, and definitely bring back the 84mm scissors and expand on the 84mm line. A 84mm golfer with a awl shaped nail file in the back and choice between CS/SD would be great for example, and quite doable, even shape the end of that file to a small SD :D
Post by: ThePeacent on August 12, 2017, 02:47:39 PM
The Spirit has one. :tu:
to me that awl/hook is the single most precious and unique implement on the Spirit. I've found 101 uses for it, and it's the best Victorinox hook ever devised, IMO...it locks too!
(http://i.imgur.com/ktym4aw.jpg)
Post by: twiliter on August 12, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
Post by: twiliter on August 12, 2017, 02:50:52 PM
The Spirit has one. :tu:
to me that awl/hook is the single most precious and unique implement on the Spirit. I've found 101 uses for it, and it's the best Victorinox hook ever devised, IMO...it locks too!
(http://i.imgur.com/ktym4aw.jpg)
An awesome tool, no doubt about it. :tu:
Post by: Don Pablo on August 12, 2017, 03:01:39 PM
:SAKnight:I've started a trend? :o
Post by: twiliter on August 12, 2017, 03:12:57 PM
:SAKnight:I've started a trend? :o
Either that or I'm just a copycat, probably the latter Pabs. :cheers:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 23, 2017, 08:50:03 PM
The Multipurpose Hook, a highly underestimated tool indeed...The hook has a very satisfying element of surprise to it. And it saved my day on more than one occasion.This has got to be one of the BEST uses of the hook that I've heard so far!
Once I was riding my bike to school, it was exam day! Halfway my chain got derailed and got stuck, really stuck, between the rear gears. It was impossible to budge. I tried sticks, my hands. I was a oily mess and nothing worked. Then I recalled my Handymand an opened the hook. One tug and the chain was free! I quickly replaced it and raced to school. Just shy of 20 minutes late, the deadline for entry.
I wouldn't want to miss the hook!
All the stuff the OP mentioned such as tightening small brass hooks or pulling guitar strings I always do with my fingers. But the bike chain. Hey hey! Good idea!
Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mindI think most people do, actually. How many times have you seen someone use a kitchen knife as a pry bar, screwdriver, an even a hammer?
What's odd to me is how many "unprepared" type people who are quick to abuse a kitchen utensil and would never think to buy a SAK, think of using a knife blade for everything. But the type of people who buy a SAK seem more resourceful and prepared, in general, but we often struggle to think of using a tool for an "off label" use.
I think we're all resourceful under the right conditions. As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of Invention". I think our problem is focusing on the labels. I like what another poster said about the hook. (Paraphrasing) It's not a "parcel hook"; it's just a metal hook.
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2017, 09:13:32 PM
I saw the bike chain use but that did not peak my interest as much as the bike wheel spoke wrench use. That did get my attention (though still not as much as the corset).
I ride an old Mongoose Hill Topper. Sometimes on trails, sometimes the 18 miles to and from work. I can see the spoke wrench aspect being very helpful, but again, I already carry a Park Tool with spoke wrench and all the necessary Allen wrench sizes, so again, I say that whatever the hook can do, seems to be able to be done by something else. Even the corset. Think outside the box.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 23, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
One has to know the tool as well. We all know that prying with blade tips is BAD, due to the way they are made, and the the SAK screwdrivers are better for the job.The Multipurpose Hook, a highly underestimated tool indeed...The hook has a very satisfying element of surprise to it. And it saved my day on more than one occasion.This has got to be one of the BEST uses of the hook that I've heard so far!
Once I was riding my bike to school, it was exam day! Halfway my chain got derailed and got stuck, really stuck, between the rear gears. It was impossible to budge. I tried sticks, my hands. I was a oily mess and nothing worked. Then I recalled my Handymand an opened the hook. One tug and the chain was free! I quickly replaced it and raced to school. Just shy of 20 minutes late, the deadline for entry.
I wouldn't want to miss the hook!
All the stuff the OP mentioned such as tightening small brass hooks or pulling guitar strings I always do with my fingers. But the bike chain. Hey hey! Good idea!Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mindI think most people do, actually. How many times have you seen someone use a kitchen knife as a pry bar, screwdriver, an even a hammer?
What's odd to me is how many "unprepared" type people who are quick to abuse a kitchen utensil and would never think to buy a SAK, think of using a knife blade for everything. But the type of people who buy a SAK seem more resourceful and prepared, in general, but we often struggle to think of using a tool for an "off label" use.
I think we're all resourceful under the right conditions. As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of Invention". I think our problem is focusing on the labels. I like what another poster said about the hook. (Paraphrasing) It's not a "parcel hook"; it's just a metal hook.
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Think outside the box, like MacGyver, but know the theoretical stuff, such as reasons why it might(will)/might not (will not) work, like MacGyver. :cheers:
Post by: Nix on August 23, 2017, 09:30:44 PM
..so again, I say that whatever the hook can do, seems to be able to be done by something else...
Well that is true. It's also true of every tool on every SAK. The only thing a SAK can do, that some other tool can't do, is look like a real SAK. Your line of reasoning would seem to suggest that you should put your SAK's in storage...or ***gulp***...sell them all and invest in task specific tools. :pok:
Let's say you were not out riding and didn't have your bicycling tool kit, but encountered a damsel in distress who need a spoke tightened on her bicycle while wearing a loose corset. Would you render assistance if you could with your trusty SAK and extensive knowledge?
Prepared is prepared. Just sayin'.....
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2017, 09:48:09 PM
..so again, I say that whatever the hook can do, seems to be able to be done by something else...
Well that is true. It's also true of every tool on every SAK. The only thing a SAK can do, that some other tool can't do, is look like a real SAK. Your line of reasoning would seem to suggest that you should put your SAK's in storage...or ***gulp***...sell them all and invest in task specific tools. :pok:
Let's say you were not out riding and didn't have your bicycling tool kit, but encountered a damsel in distress who need a spoke tightened on her bicycle while wearing a loose corset. Would you render assistance if you could with your trusty SAK and extensive knowledge?
Prepared is prepared. Just sayin'.....
:pok:
TWICE if possible!
But seriously...all of the other tools on the SAK have at least one dedicated purpose. Some are even named after that purpose. Screwdriver. Bottle opener. The hook is just such a wide net to cast.
I have a 30 year old Super Tinker with no hook and I love it. Then again, I have a newer Tinker Deluxe with a hook, and I haven't tossed that out as junk
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 23, 2017, 10:12:43 PM
I use the hook to pull open the zippers of my backpack. When i ride the train or in public im pretty sure that no one would bother trying to open my pack sneakily.So have you removed the zipper pulls for added security and just used your SAK to open them?
If that's the case, I have to say that's a pretty clever idea.
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 23, 2017, 11:57:55 PM
I use the hook to pull open the zippers of my backpack. When i ride the train or in public im pretty sure that no one would bother trying to open my pack sneakily.So have you removed the zipper pulls for added security and just used your SAK to open them?
If that's the case, I have to say that's a pretty clever idea.
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CARBON COPY... genius in its simplicity. Remove the pull tab from the zipper slider to make it difficult for someone to open your pack...so using the hook on my Deluxe Tinker, I just tested it on my day pack and it works. It won't stop a determined thief who has time, but most people would look at it and move on in favor of an easier "get."
Now back to normal programming: I ALSO tested this using the hook of my bottle cap opener (cap lifter). I placed it inside the eyelet of the slider, and THAT works, too. Actually better because it gets into that little eyelet easier. As does the can opener. And the awl. And the toothpick. The plyers of the Deluxe Tinker and other models can be used to grab the outside surface of the zipper slider and move it that way.
It's clever, but I'm just reinforcing my position that the hook is a superfluous addition to the SAK.
Post by: MacGyver on August 24, 2017, 12:36:46 AM
One has to know the tool as well. We all know that prying with blade tips is BAD, due to the way they are made, and the the SAK screwdrivers are better for the job.The Multipurpose Hook, a highly underestimated tool indeed...The hook has a very satisfying element of surprise to it. And it saved my day on more than one occasion.This has got to be one of the BEST uses of the hook that I've heard so far!
Once I was riding my bike to school, it was exam day! Halfway my chain got derailed and got stuck, really stuck, between the rear gears. It was impossible to budge. I tried sticks, my hands. I was a oily mess and nothing worked. Then I recalled my Handymand an opened the hook. One tug and the chain was free! I quickly replaced it and raced to school. Just shy of 20 minutes late, the deadline for entry.
I wouldn't want to miss the hook!
All the stuff the OP mentioned such as tightening small brass hooks or pulling guitar strings I always do with my fingers. But the bike chain. Hey hey! Good idea!Always think outside of the box and keep a loose and open mindI think most people do, actually. How many times have you seen someone use a kitchen knife as a pry bar, screwdriver, an even a hammer?
What's odd to me is how many "unprepared" type people who are quick to abuse a kitchen utensil and would never think to buy a SAK, think of using a knife blade for everything. But the type of people who buy a SAK seem more resourceful and prepared, in general, but we often struggle to think of using a tool for an "off label" use.
I think we're all resourceful under the right conditions. As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of Invention". I think our problem is focusing on the labels. I like what another poster said about the hook. (Paraphrasing) It's not a "parcel hook"; it's just a metal hook.
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Think outside the box, like MacGyver, but know the theoretical stuff, such as reasons why it might(will)/might not (will not) work, like MacGyver. :cheers:
Of course, when i say "think outside the box", i'm assuming people are aware of the physical limitations of the tools and what kind of use (or abuse) would damage them in order to stay away from that danger area. I'm also assuming that people (at least Sak and MT lovers) are aware that prying (anything) with any of the blades is an absolute NO-NO :twak:
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Post by: strmliner on August 24, 2017, 07:28:41 PM
..so again, I say that whatever the hook can do, seems to be able to be done by something else...
Well that is true. It's also true of every tool on every SAK. The only thing a SAK can do, that some other tool can't do, is look like a real SAK. Your line of reasoning would seem to suggest that you should put your SAK's in storage...or ***gulp***...sell them all and invest in task specific tools. :pok:
Let's say you were not out riding and didn't have your bicycling tool kit, but encountered a damsel in distress who need a spoke tightened on her bicycle while wearing a loose corset. Would you render assistance if you could with your trusty SAK and extensive knowledge?
Prepared is prepared. Just sayin'.....
:pok:
TWICE if possible!
But seriously...all of the other tools on the SAK have at least one dedicated purpose. Some are even named after that purpose. Screwdriver. Bottle opener. The hook is just such a wide net to cast.
I have a 30 year old Super Tinker with no hook and I love it. Then again, I have a newer Tinker Deluxe with a hook, and I haven't tossed that out as junk
:like: I'm with you, I really do like the pre-hook SuperTinkers!
Post by: Nix on August 24, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
Post by: Barry Rowland on August 24, 2017, 10:07:30 PM
Post by: twiliter on August 24, 2017, 10:09:00 PM
Right on Nix!!! :climber:
+1! :)
Post by: Don Pablo on August 24, 2017, 10:16:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wYKDNj5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FztZYou.jpg)
The back is looking unsymmetrical without a tool on the opposite side as the corkscrew, and the scissors go on that layer, so the only thing that fits is the hook. :climber:
Post by: Nix on August 24, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
:cheers:
Post by: twiliter on August 24, 2017, 10:27:08 PM
And I'm not sure that I'll ever be totally happy with my bladeless Woodsman until I get new scales, buff up the tools, and oh yeah, add a hook. :-\ :facepalm:
(http://i.imgur.com/wYKDNj5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FztZYou.jpg)
The back is looking unsymmetrical without a tool on the opposite side as the corkscrew, and the scissors go on that layer, so the only thing that fits is the hook. :climber:
Then you can sell the spring to a hook hater for way more than it's worth. :D
Post by: Don Pablo on August 24, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
Pablo, is it time to change your screen name to "Cap'n Hook"?I'll put a close up pic of the hook as my avatar. :rofl:
:cheers:
Post by: strmliner on August 25, 2017, 02:58:01 AM
Pablo, is it time to change your screen name to "Cap'n Hook"?I'll put a close up pic of the hook as my avatar. :rofl:
:cheers:
Here you go Cap'n Hook... :drink:
Post by: Nix on August 25, 2017, 03:27:18 AM
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Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 28, 2017, 11:24:36 PM
I used the flat screwdriver (bottle opener) on my Craftsman to pop off the cover. The opening was too small for an adult finger to grab the cable. I used the hook to pull the cable and pop the trunk.
I had a deeply satisfying feeling of thinking, "THAT is what that tool--even what a SAK as a whole--was made for!"
P.S. I was also carrying a Leatherman Supertool 200. It never saw the light of day.
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Post by: El Corkscrew on August 28, 2017, 11:27:14 PM
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Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 29, 2017, 05:26:16 AM
Here's a few pics from our kayaking down the middle of the streets.
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Post by: Nix on August 29, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
Great use of the hook! :salute:
Post by: pfrsantos on August 29, 2017, 05:24:51 PM
A use for the hook, opening big cans easily. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/e5RDBjU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e5RDBjU)
Of course, the pull tab had to break when I tried to open the can, after taking the photo, so I needed pliers to finish the job. :facepalm:
With these type of opening, you need the tab to first make a small opening in the lid. This breaks the integrity of the lid and makes it easier to open. If you just pull the tab, it breaks, because the attachment point is weaker than the lid resistance.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 29, 2017, 06:05:50 PM
I figured out what I did wrong. :)A use for the hook, opening big cans easily. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/e5RDBjU.jpg) (http://imgur.com/e5RDBjU)
Of course, the pull tab had to break when I tried to open the can, after taking the photo, so I needed pliers to finish the job. :facepalm:
With these type of opening, you need the tab to first make a small opening in the lid. This breaks the integrity of the lid and makes it easier to open. If you just pull the tab, it breaks, because the attachment point is weaker than the lid resistance.
Post by: VICMAN on August 29, 2017, 09:16:00 PM
By now you've heard of Hurricane Harvey pounding the hell out of the Houston, Texas area. Today, my father-in-law and I took a raft and a kayak out to try to evac some geriatric patients from a flooded nursing home. By the time we were able to get to it, FEMA and the National Guard has swarmed the area with resources and the didn't need help from us and our little boats. As we were drifting down the middle of a downtown street headed back to my jeep to load up and clear out, we saw a middle-aged woman standing in the water wearing pajama bottoms, a t-shirt, and a black garbage bag for a rain poncho. She flagged us down and asked if we could open her car trunk and fish out her plastic bag of clothes (presumably to take to the shelter with her). Her car was flooded up to the door handles in the middle of the road. She gave me her key but there was no key hole in the trunk and her electric switch was under water (shorted) and the battery had died. It took some searching but I found the manual release pull behind the rear head rest.
I used the flat screwdriver (bottle opener) on my Craftsman to pop off the cover. The opening was too small for an adult finger to grab the cable. I used the hook to pull the cable and pop the trunk.
I had a deeply satisfying feeling of thinking, "THAT is what that tool--even what a SAK as a whole--was made for!"
P.S. I was also carrying a Leatherman Supertool 200. It never saw the light of day.
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Great use of the hook Yeti! :like: :tu: :tu:
Post by: ironraven on August 30, 2017, 05:02:47 AM
I had a deeply satisfying feeling of thinking, "THAT is what that tool--even what a SAK as a whole--was made for!"
Good job! Keep safe- I won't tell you to stay dry, that isn't happening.
I sometimes wonder if someone woke up in the middle of the night, and sketched the hook he'd seen in a dream. Had a vision. The hook is one of those tools that until you need it, you wonder about it. Then, one day... yep. You needed it. And that is why it was there. In a way, it is meditative, pondering the hook.
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on August 30, 2017, 08:41:36 AM
I have used the hook on my Cybertool more than once for grabbing otherwise unreachable wires and have wondered ever since how such a, well, 'simple' tool has found its place among the other, more sophisticated and precision-engineered SAK tools...
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 30, 2017, 04:19:53 PM
My stance on the hook remains the same. Many tools could have done that, but I think what you did is what any Leatherman or Swiss Army Knife- carrying person carries them for, in the big picture.
I got a kick out of the fact that through all that adventure, you had the wherewithal to take a pic of the hook in action
Post by: shadowrider on August 30, 2017, 05:19:34 PM
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 30, 2017, 05:53:02 PM
I got a kick out of the fact that through all that adventure, you had the wherewithal to take a pic of the hook in actionLOL!
Honestly, I was kneeling in water thinking "Don't drop the phone! Just don't drop the phone!"
Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 30, 2017, 06:40:31 PM
I had a deeply satisfying feeling of thinking, "THAT is what that tool--even what a SAK as a whole--was made for!"
Good job! Keep safe- I won't tell you to stay dry, that isn't happening.
I sometimes wonder if someone woke up in the middle of the night, and sketched the hook he'd seen in a dream. Had a vision. The hook is one of those tools that until you need it, you wonder about it. Then, one day... yep. You needed it. And that is why it was there. In a way, it is meditative, pondering the hook.
I believe the hook to be meditative and pondering the same way one person will sit cross-legged meditating on an issue, while someone else with a corkscrew or Philips head screwdriver will just get up and do it.
For real...I challenge anyone to find a use for that vestigial organ of a tool, that I cannot also do with some other implement of a SAK. I mean - if they sold it as a CROCHET hook, then at least it would have its singular named purpose.
Seriously keep safe Yeti! And everyone else in the path of this storm
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on August 30, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
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Post by: Don Pablo on August 30, 2017, 09:19:05 PM
Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?Nooooo! :ahhh ;)
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In it's current position, it's great for carrying heavy stuff like heavy bags with wire handles. Make it inline, and it can't do that.
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 30, 2017, 09:24:07 PM
Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 30, 2017, 09:28:17 PM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 30, 2017, 09:30:59 PM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
don't get upset, bro. more of a reference to the name. I got nothing but love for the hook, you did notice I started this thread. :D :pok: :cheers:
Post by: Don Pablo on August 30, 2017, 09:32:43 PM
I was ranting at the bags, not you. :cheers:Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
don't get upset, bro. more of a reference to the name. I got nothing but love for the hook, you did notice I started this thread. :D :pok: :cheers:
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Post by: El Corkscrew on August 30, 2017, 09:41:06 PM
I was ranting at the bags, not you. :cheers:
Oh! Sorry for being sensitive. :D :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on August 30, 2017, 09:41:38 PM
As said thought struck me I thought about the advertised use, of course... But when I was fishing for wires it would have been more useful if inline. Limited application, of course :think:
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that makes sense. :cheers:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 30, 2017, 11:09:13 PM
My stance on the hook remains the same. Many tools could have done that, but I think what you did is what any Leatherman or Swiss Army Knife- carrying person carries them for, in the big picture...Well, I didn't look at the situation as an opportunity to use the hook. I already had the bottle opener out. The problem was that the opening to the release cable was too small. The bottle opener would require me to be able to fit the bit under the cable and turn the tool like a lever to pull the cable up. There wasn't room to do that--and of course the tool and the cable were wet so the whole assembly was slick. I needed to be able to grab the cable and pull vertically.
For real...I challenge anyone to find a use for that vestigial organ of a tool, that I cannot also do with some other implement of a SAK.
I don't think another tool on the SAK would have been able to do the task in a timely fashion--under those conditions.
So if we consider the conditions of the circumstances and the objects involved, I think we'll begin to see tasks that the hook can do that the other tools in the SAK cannot accomplish.
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Post by: Nix on August 30, 2017, 11:19:37 PM
So if we consider the conditions of the circumstances and the objects involved, I think we'll begin to see tasks that the hook can do that the other tools in the SAK cannot accomplish.
Or, if nothing else, with greater elegance. :cheers:
Post by: AimlessWanderer on August 30, 2017, 11:21:46 PM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
Post by: Don Pablo on August 30, 2017, 11:52:45 PM
For if you try it out...Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on August 31, 2017, 12:45:06 AM
My stance on the hook remains the same. Many tools could have done that, but I think what you did is what any Leatherman or Swiss Army Knife- carrying person carries them for, in the big picture...Well, I didn't look at the situation as an opportunity to use the hook. I already had the bottle opener out. The problem was that the opening to the release cable was too small. The bottle opener would require me to be able to fit the bit under the cable and turn the tool like a lever to pull the cable up. There wasn't room to do that--and of course the tool and the cable were wet so the whole assembly was slick. I needed to be able to grab the cable and pull vertically.
For real...I challenge anyone to find a use for that vestigial organ of a tool, that I cannot also do with some other implement of a SAK.
I don't think another tool on the SAK would have been able to do the task in a timely fashion--under those conditions.
So if we consider the conditions of the circumstances and the objects involved, I think we'll begin to see tasks that the hook can do that the other tools in the SAK cannot accomplish.
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YETI - please don't misconstrue the nature of my post. What you did is honorable and I had no intention of diminishing that in any way. And I wouldn't second guess you, as you were the one with boots on the ground - or ass in the kayak in this case. And naturally, in true MacGyver fashion you used whatever you had on hand to bring a positive outcome to the situation. That happened to be a SAK with a hook. I hate the hook, but that doesn't make you less of a good Samaritan.
Had I been there and had my Deluxe Tinker, I may have done the same. Then again, I carry a LM Surge, and probably would have used it's can opener or plyer heads (or used it as a hammer and bashed the trunk open).
In retrospect, perhaps I should have posted the "anything the hook can do, some other tool can also do" in a separate post.
Post by: ironraven on August 31, 2017, 02:36:17 AM
In retrospect, perhaps I should have posted the "anything the hook can do, some other tool can also do" in a separate post.
I understand. I was there myself once.
I give you tools. They can be used many ways. There is a tool that you can not use, but you can not throw away. Then one day, you have a problem. If only you had a tool that did something none of the others really do... then, in that moment, the hook will come to you. It really is a revelation.
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 31, 2017, 04:10:00 AM
I took no offense. I did put some thought into what you had said and tried to imagine what other tool I could have used. It's possible a pliers tip could have fit in the hole; however, the opening seemed impractically small. The hook seemed the easiest. Is it tool that cannot be replaced? Can the hook do something no other tool can do? I have no doubt simply because it's a different size and shape than the other tools. Or maybe NO tool is unique in that fashion. Maybe all the tools are just substitutes for each other. I'm not sure that I've found the answer. Or maybe I did find it in that situation. Each situation, scenario, experience is unique and fluid. The only thing that seems certain is that every tool is a substitute for the human hand in a given situation.My stance on the hook remains the same. Many tools could have done that, but I think what you did is what any Leatherman or Swiss Army Knife- carrying person carries them for, in the big picture...Well, I didn't look at the situation as an opportunity to use the hook. I already had the bottle opener out. The problem was that the opening to the release cable was too small. The bottle opener would require me to be able to fit the bit under the cable and turn the tool like a lever to pull the cable up. There wasn't room to do that--and of course the tool and the cable were wet so the whole assembly was slick. I needed to be able to grab the cable and pull vertically.
For real...I challenge anyone to find a use for that vestigial organ of a tool, that I cannot also do with some other implement of a SAK.
I don't think another tool on the SAK would have been able to do the task in a timely fashion--under those conditions.
So if we consider the conditions of the circumstances and the objects involved, I think we'll begin to see tasks that the hook can do that the other tools in the SAK cannot accomplish.
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YETI - please don't misconstrue the nature of my post. What you did is honorable and I had no intention of diminishing that in any way. And I wouldn't second guess you, as you were the one with boots on the ground - or ass in the kayak in this case. And naturally, in true MacGyver fashion you used whatever you had on hand to bring a positive outcome to the situation. That happened to be a SAK with a hook. I hate the hook, but that doesn't make you less of a good Samaritan.
Had I been there and had my Deluxe Tinker, I may have done the same. Then again, I carry a LM Surge, and probably would have used it's can opener or plyer heads (or used it as a hammer and bashed the trunk open).
In retrospect, perhaps I should have posted the "anything the hook can do, some other tool can also do" in a separate post.
Perhaps the question isn't "which tool is irreplaceable", but "do you value efficiency more or simplicity more?"
In the moment, you'd use whatever tools you had at the ready (as you implied)
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Post by: El Corkscrew on August 31, 2017, 04:27:49 AM
Post by: MacGyver on August 31, 2017, 11:31:28 AM
I neither love it or hate it, it's just there and eventually may come in handy, doesn't bother me much. I just happen to like the plain flush back scissor spring look better, especially on 3 layer sak's, but that's just for aesthetic purposes nothing else, so yes i would like a Climber without a hook better because of that, but it doesn't really bother me much that it's there... :cheers:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on August 31, 2017, 08:47:38 PM
I understand. I was there myself once.Yes. I was there! I used to scratch my head at the hook. Perhaps, I was hung up on the label. A "parcel hook"? but I have tape. I don't carry parcels with a hook. What do I need this for? Once I viewed it just as a metal hook, the light came on for me. I started going to it more because I became more conscious of its presence. I have a set of small hooks on my workbench in the garage. I end up using them much more than I expected when I bought them. Once I became "aware" of this tool in the SAK, I started using it more.
I give you tools. They can be used many ways. There is a tool that you can not use, but you can not throw away. Then one day, you have a problem. If only you had a tool that did something none of the others really do... then, in that moment, the hook will come to you. It really is a revelation.
Another one is the awl. I have used mine a few times but I still stare at it and scratch my head sometimes.
The worst for me is the corkscrew. I really do think I'd never miss that tool if it disappeared. It's great for holding the mini screwdriver.
....and?!
I don't have a mini screwdriver. Untying knots? Well, I don't encounter small knots that often, and I wonder if another tool could handle that.
What is extremely fascinating to me in this whole thread is the fact that the SAK and these various little tools bring us to so much pondering and analyzing our own lifestyles and philosophies. We are brought to considering our whole lifestyle in regards to our own philosophies of preparedness, efficiency, resourcefulness, and self-reliance all of which effects our EDC choices.
The OP deserves a SAK Philosophy badge for starting such a good, robust discussion.
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Post by: Don Pablo on August 31, 2017, 09:08:48 PM
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
Post by: Nix on August 31, 2017, 09:15:59 PM
That's a T-shirt right there:
Swiss Army Knives
"Tools to open your mind"
"Tools to open your mind"
Post by: MacGyver on August 31, 2017, 09:30:51 PM
I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
Well... That's the way i've always saw all of them from the beginning... :salute: :D
Post by: Faddy Daddy on September 01, 2017, 04:58:00 AM
I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
Post by: Don Pablo on September 01, 2017, 06:48:20 AM
And which verbs apply to various tools. :DI like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
Scissors: 6.
Bottle Opener: 1, 2, 3, 4, etc...
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 01, 2017, 12:19:39 PM
And which verbs apply to various tools. :DI like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
Scissors: 6.
Bottle Opener: 1, 2, 3, 4, etc...
For some people it's just gawp, fondle, polish, drool .... :D
For me there's only one verb needed - enable. They make life easier, simple as that.
Post by: Faddy Daddy on September 01, 2017, 04:48:10 PM
For some people it's just gawp, fondle, polish, drool .... :D
For me there's only one verb needed - enable. They make life easier, simple as that.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Don Pablo on September 01, 2017, 05:01:05 PM
The Fondle verb particularly applies to me. :whistle:
For some people it's just gawp, fondle, polish, drool .... :D
For me there's only one verb needed - enable. They make life easier, simple as that.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: pfrsantos on September 01, 2017, 05:08:02 PM
I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
0. Drool
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
FTFY...
:whistle:
Post by: Don Pablo on September 01, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
The zeroth verb for all shiny multitools. :drool:I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
0. Drool
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
FTFY...
:whistle:
Post by: pfrsantos on September 01, 2017, 05:11:23 PM
The zeroth verb for all shiny multitools. :drool:I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
0. Drool
1. Pry
2. Twist
3. Gouge
4. Lever
5. Pull
6. Cut
7. Open
8. Clean
9. Scrape
10. Drill
11. Scratch
12. file
13. Abraise
14. bend
15. remove
...
FTFY...
:whistle:
... and flashlights and pens and watches and pouches and stuff...
:D :D
Post by: ironraven on September 03, 2017, 12:09:47 AM
We should start a thread of verbs one can use their SAK and all it's variously shaped pieces of metal for, to me this is the raw simplicity of a SAK or it's inner essence?
1. Pry
2. Twist
3...
I would add "pierce" to the list, but other than that, that could very well serve as a template for evaluating a multitool.
Probably needs a few more verbs- bash (hammer functionality), illuminate (flashlight) and a few others, but....
Let me think on this. This has promise.
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 03, 2017, 02:08:39 PM
...Once we apply a specific verb or action to a tool, don't we run the risk of mentally boxing ourselves in again just as with the tool labels?
And which verbs apply to various tools. :D
Scissors: 6.
Bottle Opener: 1, 2, 3, 4, etc...
For example, if we see the cap lifter as a pry bar, don't we run the risk of not seeing it as a screwdriver or any number of other options?
It's hard to imagine there is anyway to list all the potential actions of a tool. So we may, by virtue of trying to expand our ideas, end up limiting them.
For example, if I see the cap lifter as a pry or screwdriver, I may overlook that it can be a clamp or an electrical contact.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170903/48d77cd4ac743f0757b4dac1a1312254.jpg)
Of course, all this is just philosophical argument. If we listed actions we thought of, we might be helping someone else think outside the box. That's a good thing! I was just playing "devil's advocate" for the sake of the discussion.
P.S. To all you diehard Alox lovers, take a look at the photo and ask yourself if that'd be something you'd try with Alox scales?
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Post by: AlephZero on September 03, 2017, 02:54:58 PM
I like that. :like:
The Parcel Hook is a hooked piece of metal.
The Corkscrew is a a twisty piece of metal.
The Awl is a pointy piece of metal with a edge.
The Bottle opener and can opener are pieces of metal with uncountable uses.
The Saw is a piece of metal with lots of teeth.
Etc...
Open your mind, see them for what they are: pieces of metal in various shapes. :salute:
+1
Improvise, people, improvise... That's what SAKs are made for :tu:
Post by: twiliter on September 03, 2017, 03:35:16 PM
P.S. To all you diehard Alox lovers, take a look at the photo and ask yourself if that'd be something you'd try with Alox scales?
I would not short circuit a battery with any SAK. No way.
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 03, 2017, 07:27:34 PM
I would not short circuit a battery with any SAK. No way.Why not?
Bearing in mind, the photo I posted should be considered an emergency survival fire starting method only.
Also, I've never tried this technique yet so I don't know how much insulation the celloid scales give (if any). I don't know if the technique is painful or not.
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Post by: theonew on September 03, 2017, 08:40:09 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 03, 2017, 08:47:04 PM
I use the saw a lot as a back scratcher :D:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
Surely the fish tickler(aka fish scaler) would be better suited? :pok:
And you can use it for cocktail sausages and olives afterwards! (Or before, if thats how you swing)
Post by: theonew on September 03, 2017, 08:50:04 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 03, 2017, 08:53:07 PM
Do you have rhino hide? ::)
My back would be shredded by the saw.
Post by: theonew on September 03, 2017, 08:56:52 PM
No power tools though :D
Post by: ironraven on September 03, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
One, the steel wool WILL rust. When you need a fire, you are usually wet. Too late to find out you've been carrying a load of non-combusting rot in your knife, assuming you haven't noticed in the past.
Two, this is a good way to weld a contact to your knife.
If you're that worried, there are plenty of ferrorods that are keychain sized.
Post by: Don Pablo on September 03, 2017, 09:33:52 PM
I have two problem with that way of using your SAK as a fire starter.And syph just said in another thread that the SAK stainless steel will rust more easily if it's touching non stainless steel, like steel wool I presume. :ahhh
One, the steel wool WILL rust. When you need a fire, you are usually wet. Too late to find out you've been carrying a load of non-combusting rot in your knife, assuming you haven't noticed in the past.
Two, this is a good way to weld a contact to your knife.
If you're that worried, there are plenty of ferrorods that are keychain sized.
Post by: strmliner on September 03, 2017, 09:50:59 PM
I use the saw a lot as a back scratcher :D
:rofl: :ahhh :rofl: :ahhh
Ah...umh...no, not ever.
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 03, 2017, 10:53:22 PM
I have two problem with that way of using your SAK as a fire starter.I agree. Personally, I wouldn't do it either. I posted it to fish out opinions so I thank you for that thoughtful answer. There are many ways to start a fire and I assume that if someone had the presence of mind to tuck away some steel wool into their SAK, they should have the presence of mind to carry a survival tin with them anyway. If I had to rely on a SAK for fire, I'd prefer to carry one with the magnifier and use sunlight (assuming it's available). Again, for the size of a box of Sucrets or Altoids, you could have several adequate options at hand.
One, the steel wool WILL rust. When you need a fire, you are usually wet. Too late to find out you've been carrying a load of non-combusting rot in your knife, assuming you haven't noticed in the past.
Two, this is a good way to weld a contact to your knife.
If you're that worried, there are plenty of ferrorods that are keychain sized.
Welding your SAK to something is a sure recipe for disaster in a survival situation.
Not to mention the possibility of having the battery overheat or even explode in your hand. May not be likely, but it's possible.
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Post by: El Corkscrew on September 03, 2017, 11:07:01 PM
Post by: Nix on September 03, 2017, 11:48:51 PM
I had a cheap AAA battery spontaneously explode in my wireless mouse a couple weeks ago, no kidding. Energizer henceforth
Hmmm...sounds like one of your enemies sabotaged your mouse.
(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/ashamed/ashamed0001.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-sick-smileys.php)
Stay vigilant, my friend!
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Post by: theonew on September 03, 2017, 11:51:43 PM
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 04, 2017, 05:38:57 AM
I had a cheap AAA battery spontaneously explode in my wireless mouse a couple weeks ago, no kidding. Energizer henceforth(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170904/99d9a39000b57826a0b87708df197c2b.jpg)
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Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 13, 2017, 12:48:51 AM
I have used the 91mm hook a few times with success, but don't think I've ever used it where the Spirit hook would also have done the trick (safely). I don't mind it being there, as it's really just a fancy shaped kick for the awl (which is necessary for the awl to stow properly), but has anyone found it beneficial?
Post by: strmliner on September 13, 2017, 02:51:42 AM
Welding your SAK to something is a sure recipe for disaster in a survival situation.
Not to mention the possibility of having the battery overheat or even explode in your hand. May not be likely, but it's possible.
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You think? :think:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 15, 2017, 11:39:59 AM
You think? :think:I try to
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Post by: magentus on September 15, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
Has anyone ever found the hook on the Spirit useful?NO!
I have used the 91mm hook a few times with success, but don't think I've ever used it where the Spirit hook would also have done the trick (safely). I don't mind it being there, as it's really just a fancy shaped kick for the awl (which is necessary for the awl to stow properly), but has anyone found it beneficial?
I will defend the 91mm hook to my dying breath as it's been very useful in several situations.
The Spirit hook however is a mystery, except as you say Al, as a fancy kick. I imagine if you try to use it as a parcel hook the awl will shred the material in no time. :facepalm:
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 15, 2017, 12:15:41 PM
Has anyone ever found the hook on the Spirit useful?NO!
I have used the 91mm hook a few times with success, but don't think I've ever used it where the Spirit hook would also have done the trick (safely). I don't mind it being there, as it's really just a fancy shaped kick for the awl (which is necessary for the awl to stow properly), but has anyone found it beneficial?
I will defend the 91mm hook to my dying breath as it's been very useful in several situations.
The Spirit hook however is a mystery, except as you say Al, as a fancy kick. I imagine if you try to use it as a parcel hook the awl will shred the material in no time. :facepalm:
I was thinking the same for cord word, for fishing electrical cable out of a "nest", and any other time the hook may be useful, the awl will likely be an obstacle.
Post by: firiki on September 15, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
It is, however, very useful for manipulating the awl it comes attached to :tu:
Post by: magentus on September 15, 2017, 02:34:49 PM
I've often wondered the same about the Spirit's hook. So far, the only potential use I see for it wiuld be carrying a bucket with a bare metal handle or something similar, like a paint can.The Hook that brought our dear firiki back to us! :woohoo:
It is, however, very useful for manipulating the awl it comes attached to :tu:
Post by: firiki on September 15, 2017, 02:37:41 PM
Post by: firiki on September 15, 2017, 02:38:30 PM
I've often wondered the same about the Spirit's hook. So far, the only potential use I see for it wiuld be carrying a bucket with a bare metal handle or something similar, like a paint can.The Hook that brought our dear firiki back to us! :woohoo:
It is, however, very useful for manipulating the awl it comes attached to :tu:
All praise the hook >:D :cheers:
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 15, 2017, 05:26:27 PM
Post by: magentus on September 15, 2017, 07:45:23 PM
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 15, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
I've often wondered the same about the Spirit's hook. So far, the only potential use I see for it wiuld be carrying a bucket with a bare metal handle or something similar, like a paint can.bucket of paint? 'Spose it could be. Seems like a lot of extra work to whip that out for carrying a bucket. Still...(shrug).
It is, however, very useful for manipulating the awl it comes attached to :tu:
I don't understand the idea behind the design. As a hook it seems like it would have almost no reach to speak of.
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Post by: firiki on September 16, 2017, 03:37:48 PM
All hail the cat the lord!
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71139.0;attach=337576;image)
Ego vos benedico...
Post by: firiki on September 16, 2017, 03:50:12 PM
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71139.0;attach=337578;image)
There's a small box under them, that supposedly facilitates water flow, so they require somewhat frequent cleaning in order for crud not to set in. The covers are a tight fit and can be prised open with a screwdriver (but not one's fingertips) but I think the hook is much preferable since there's no fiddling to find the right angle, rathen than just a simple pull upwards.
In other words, using the hook for this job is simpler, quicker and minimizes the risk of accidentally bending the lid. The hook just scored another point in my book :)
Post by: firiki on September 16, 2017, 04:22:20 PM
I've often wondered the same about the Spirit's hook. So far, the only potential use I see for it wiuld be carrying a bucket with a bare metal handle or something similar, like a paint can.bucket of paint? 'Spose it could be. Seems like a lot of extra work to whip that out for carrying a bucket. Still...(shrug).
It is, however, very useful for manipulating the awl it comes attached to :tu:
I don't understand the idea behind the design. As a hook it seems like it would have almost no reach to speak of.
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To be honest, the true purpose of this design eludes me also. I suspect it is meant more as an aid for using the awl rather than a hook like the one on 91mm SAKs. Still, it can't hurt having it there as it doesn't take up space nor does it hinder the awl's function, so I give it a pass.
As for buckets, almost every year I carry around ten of these
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71139.0;attach=337580;image)
standard, 19L olive oil containers. The actual weight varies but they are heavy and unconfortable to carry in and out the car, across the road, up staircases etc. Their small, narrow handle quickly hurts one's fingers. Usually, I use a piece of thick cardboard to help protect mine but this also makes carrying the containers unconfortable (as the handle becomes too narrow).
The Spirit's hook fits the handle perfectly and I've used it to carry a couple of those containers. It did the job alright :tu: but I wouldn't want to be using it like this all the time for a number of reasons: a) in case it slips you can hurt your hand -I was holding it with the awl pointing forward and the hook facing upwards, b) if used vertically it is rather easy to put a hole in the container -and oil spills are never fun and c) I don't like putting so much weight on such a small piece on metal whose specs I don't know :ahhh
Post by: strmliner on September 16, 2017, 07:26:17 PM
All praise the hook >:D :cheers:
:oops:
Nope...never...not in this lifetime! :rofl:
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 16, 2017, 07:34:09 PM
Meet the new drain hole covers at firiki's house.
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71139.0;attach=337578;image)
There's a small box under them, that supposedly facilitates water flow, so they require somewhat frequent cleaning in order for crud not to set in. The covers are a tight fit and can be prised open with a screwdriver (but not one's fingertips) but I think the hook is much preferable since there's no fiddling to find the right angle, rathen than just a simple pull upwards.
In other words, using the hook for this job is simpler, quicker and minimizes the risk of accidentally bending the lid. The hook just scored another point in my book :)
:like: :tu:
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 16, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
All hail the cat the lord!
(https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=71139.0;attach=337576;image)
Ego vos benedico...
:salute: Bless us all, your imminence
Post by: KandiKlover on September 17, 2017, 03:01:12 AM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
Inventive, I just used mine for carrying a orange net sack after first getting it and some potatoes the other day. That trick will come in handy for this Christmas season :) I did something similar with paracord to carry a few big bundle of branches after pruning a tree eaelier this week. Never thought about using the same trick for shopping bags, that'll be much nicer. :like:
Post by: ironraven on September 17, 2017, 03:06:06 AM
Meet the new drain hole covers at firiki's house.
{...}
In other words, using the hook for this job is simpler, quicker and minimizes the risk of accidentally bending the lid. The hook just scored another point in my book :)
Evolution did not give us a finger with a good hook on it.
Victorinox resolved this oversight.
And if his fuzzy eminence concurs, then that covers all the bases.
Post by: KandiKlover on September 17, 2017, 05:09:15 AM
I like how this guy uses the hook on a box in order to not mess up the box.
It starts at location 1:40. Watch until 2:19, he uses it twice. :tu:
https://youtu.be/y8wPp5YJ9Hw
Another useful trick I never realized I needed. This is great.
Post by: AimlessWanderer on September 17, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
Inventive, I just used mine for carrying a orange net sack after first getting it and some potatoes the other day. That trick will come in handy for this Christmas season :) I did something similar with paracord to carry a few big bundle of branches after pruning a tree eaelier this week. Never thought about using the same trick for shopping bags, that'll be much nicer. :like:
:tu: :salute:
I've also considered combining it with a small carabiner, to try and stop all the bags spewing their contents everywhere in the boot (trunk) of the taxi on the way home ::) I'll take a pic to explain my idea when I try it.
Post by: KandiKlover on September 17, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
Or something more relevant in this day and age...Another thought on the hook... has anyone ever thought it might have been better placed inline perhaps (the thought did strike me more than once)? If yes, to which other tool's detriment?
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The Wenger Carabiner is a little like that...
I agree about the backside advantage for carrying purposes as prescribed for string bound parcels.
Heavy shopping bags with string/wire/etc handles. :rant:
Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
Inventive, I just used mine for carrying a orange net sack after first getting it and some potatoes the other day. That trick will come in handy for this Christmas season :) I did something similar with paracord to carry a few big bundle of branches after pruning a tree eaelier this week. Never thought about using the same trick for shopping bags, that'll be much nicer. :like:
:tu: :salute:
I've also considered combining it with a small carabiner, to try and stop all the bags spewing their contents everywhere in the boot (trunk) of the taxi on the way home ::) I'll take a pic to explain my idea when I try it.
I'm interested to see that, post it on a new thread when you do so you get the hook merit badge :tu:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 17, 2017, 02:34:15 PM
You clever little so-and-so, you!!Hmmm :think:
There I was thinking lanyards are essentially useless and rather annoying, but ....
A simple looped lanyard attached with a cow hitch so it's easily removed, could potentially be passed through the handles of several shopping bags and all carried with more comfort with a knife with hook. I'll try to remember that and try it out.
Inventive, I just used mine for carrying a orange net sack after first getting it and some potatoes the other day. That trick will come in handy for this Christmas season :) I did something similar with paracord to carry a few big bundle of branches after pruning a tree eaelier this week. Never thought about using the same trick for shopping bags, that'll be much nicer. :like:
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I'm completely stealing this idea!!
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Post by: firiki on September 17, 2017, 03:35:56 PM
{...}
And if his fuzzy eminence concurs, then that covers all the bases.
Repetitio est mater studiorum
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ergo all praise the hook :D
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 17, 2017, 05:03:05 PM
Post by: ThundahBeagle on September 17, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
-He told me enough! He told me you killed him!!
-No, Luke! I, am your hook...
- NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on September 17, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
-Luke...Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your hook...:rofl:
-He told me enough! He told me you killed him!!
-No, Luke! I, am your hook...
- NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Force is strong in Thundah...
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Post by: ThundahBeagle on September 17, 2017, 10:13:49 PM
/How far off, I sat and wondered,
/Started hummin' a song from nineteen sixty-- NO HOOKS!
Post by: ThundahBeagle on September 17, 2017, 10:18:22 PM
-(crazed warped face of a Shakespearian over-actor) HHHHOOOOOOOOK!
HHHHHOOOOOOK!
(Cut to surface of lifeless planetoid, pan to the depths of space)
(Sfx, reverb and echo)
Post by: Don Pablo on September 17, 2017, 10:37:36 PM
(I did take out the openers at the same time, but ignore that. :whistle: If I had a choice between taking out openers or adding the hook, I'd pick hook. :D )
New avatar pic coming soon! It will feature the hook! :ahhh :drink:
Post by: KandiKlover on September 18, 2017, 02:27:08 AM
Tore apart my bladeless Woodsman and rebuilt it just to add the hook. ::)
(I did take out the openers at the same time, but ignore that. :whistle: If I had a choice between taking out openers or adding the hook, I'd pick hook. :D )
New avatar pic coming soon! It will feature the hook! :ahhh :drink:
I decided to hook hang mine from a plant too :3 (https://i.imgur.com/LCZpwdp.jpg)
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2017, 02:35:41 AM
:drool:Tore apart my bladeless Woodsman and rebuilt it just to add the hook. ::)
(I did take out the openers at the same time, but ignore that. :whistle: If I had a choice between taking out openers or adding the hook, I'd pick hook. :D )
New avatar pic coming soon! It will feature the hook! :ahhh :drink:
I decided to hook hang mine from a plant too :3 (https://i.imgur.com/LCZpwdp.jpg)
:like:
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on September 18, 2017, 07:05:31 AM
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Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2017, 02:15:08 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2017, 02:16:00 PM
What shall I call it? The Hooky Roger? The Jolly Hooker? ( :facepalm: ) Or Hooky Owl? Suggestions welcome. :DAdded pic, if that will help with naming suggestions. ::)
Post by: magentus on September 18, 2017, 02:18:11 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Hooky Awl? Hooky Aowl?
Post by: magentus on September 18, 2017, 02:27:19 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 18, 2017, 03:53:22 PM
Even the name itself sounds wise. :D
Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 18, 2017, 04:09:42 PM
What shall I call it? The Hooky Roger? The Jolly Hooker? ( :facepalm: ) Or Hooky Owl? Suggestions welcome. :DWise Hooker?
BTW, you find a way to make this into a beret pin and I'd buy one. LOL!
It could be the new, official headwear of the Swiss Army Knights
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Post by: Tired_Yeti on September 18, 2017, 04:29:18 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/80f8c25a35b7aa7b13ba22e93cb2d536.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/ed51430bf72f229d33c10e477bbc9ee6.jpg)
I had tried to do this with the cap lifter, but it was nearly impossible. The tool needed to be used as a lever but the filter is recessed (the button on the fridge to pop the filter out is very ineffective) and there is no way to apply leverage. Also the tool would slip as it could not grab the filter. Same problem with the pliers. In fact, due to the size of the access area, the pliers had the best reach if inserted sideways--defeating the purpose of pliers.
So I may have--MAY have--found a job that the hook can do that the other tools can't really do. Although, it may be possible to use the corkscrew to hook the filter also, but I didn't try that because there is no corkscrew on the Craftsman.
With that said, I think most versions with a corkscrew also have the hook (maybe not all; I don't know). If so, you still might not need the corkscrew for this.
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Post by: KandiKlover on September 19, 2017, 08:12:06 AM
Used the hook to pull out the old water filter in my fridge.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/80f8c25a35b7aa7b13ba22e93cb2d536.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/ed51430bf72f229d33c10e477bbc9ee6.jpg)
I had tried to do this with the cap lifter, but it was nearly impossible. The tool needed to be used as a lever but the filter is recessed (the button on the fridge to pop the filter out is very ineffective) and there is no way to apply leverage. Also the tool would slip as it could not grab the filter. Same problem with the pliers. In fact, due to the size of the access area, the pliers had the best reach if inserted sideways--defeating the purpose of pliers.
So I may have--MAY have--found a job that the hook can do that the other tools can't really do. Although, it may be possible to use the corkscrew to hook the filter also, but I didn't try that because there is no corkscrew on the Craftsman.
With that said, I think most versions with a corkscrew also have the hook (maybe not all; I don't know). If so, you still might not need the corkscrew for this.
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I have to change my fridge filter too soon. First time since its a new one and I never used the water off it much until recently because I have cleaner distilled water on the water cooler.
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 19, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
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Post by: KandiKlover on September 23, 2017, 01:33:54 PM
Post by: VICMAN on September 23, 2017, 04:35:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lBRaGur.jpg)
Congratulations on your 3 badges! :cheers:
Post by: KandiKlover on September 24, 2017, 12:49:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/lBRaGur.jpg)
Congratulations on your 3 badges! :cheers:
Thanks :3 :tu:
Post by: ironraven on September 26, 2017, 01:23:38 AM
What shall I call it? The Hooky Roger? The Jolly Hooker? ( :facepalm: ) Or Hooky Owl? Suggestions welcome. :D
The Owl's Beak.
Post by: Don Pablo on September 26, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
I like that. :cheers:What shall I call it? The Hooky Roger? The Jolly Hooker? ( :facepalm: ) Or Hooky Owl? Suggestions welcome. :D
The Owl's Beak.
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on September 28, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
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Post by: Don Pablo on September 28, 2017, 10:59:53 PM
Are they twisting or pulling?
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on September 29, 2017, 02:21:06 PM
:ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :popcorn:Just pulling. Twisting would be cheating :rofl:
Are they twisting or pulling?
They're very slowly getting tired now... not moved a fraction of an inch yet. I think they're pretty evenly matched.
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Post by: magentus on September 29, 2017, 02:24:22 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 29, 2017, 02:32:55 PM
Go cybertool!
:popcorn:
Post by: magentus on September 29, 2017, 02:38:54 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 29, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
Post by: magentus on September 29, 2017, 02:50:24 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 29, 2017, 03:32:27 PM
Post by: magentus on September 29, 2017, 03:52:27 PM
Post by: Don Pablo on September 29, 2017, 03:54:51 PM
Post by: magentus on September 29, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
GAME OVER
Post by: Don Pablo on September 29, 2017, 04:11:16 PM
Post by: shibafu on September 29, 2017, 05:14:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjmUduvaRx0
Post by: Mini on September 29, 2017, 06:46:29 PM
Post by: El Corkscrew on September 29, 2017, 08:00:01 PM
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on September 30, 2017, 12:41:01 AM
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Post by: Nix on September 30, 2017, 03:18:03 PM
Then I would truly be fulfilled.
:rofl:
But seriously, why isn't the file a feature on all hooks?
Post by: VICMAN on September 30, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
Then I would truly be fulfilled.
:rofl:
But seriously, why isn't the file a feature on all hooks?
I agree! :like:
Post by: Tired_Yeti on October 01, 2017, 04:49:15 AM
This reminds me very much of the staring contests on the TV show Big Train.ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOFF!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjmUduvaRx0
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Post by: Tired_Yeti on October 01, 2017, 04:54:10 AM
I use the hook file pretty often...Did you make that?!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/9b6edb832eddd5552dff2803dc8a2352.jpg)
That's brilliant! Victorinox should be doing that on every hook.
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Post by: Nix on October 01, 2017, 05:32:55 AM
Did you make that?!
That's brilliant! Victorinox should be doing that on every hook.
Standard feature on the Compact. Love it.
Post by: Dutch_Tooler on October 01, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
Is that hook the same size as the one without the file? I feel that a SuperSwissChamp is being pondered somewhere ;)
Did you make that?!
That's brilliant! Victorinox should be doing that on every hook.
Standard feature on the Compact. Love it.
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Post by: magentus on October 01, 2017, 10:21:55 AM
It's exactly the same hook, but with a file added. :tu:Is that hook the same size as the one without the file? I feel that a SuperSwissChamp is being pondered somewhere ;)
Did you make that?!
That's brilliant! Victorinox should be doing that on every hook.
Standard feature on the Compact. Love it.
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Post by: Dutch_Tooler on October 01, 2017, 03:45:17 PM
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Post by: firiki on October 02, 2017, 03:02:18 PM
Post by: magentus on October 02, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
The only SAK's I know that come with th efile on the hook are the Compact and the DoE. Maybe one of the huge ones does, but someone should send one to me for official verification.
Post by: firiki on October 02, 2017, 03:17:34 PM
You've been away too long firiki :pok:
The only SAK's I know that come with th efile on the hook are the Compact and the DoE. Maybe one of the huge ones does, but someone should send one to me for official verification.
You (all) can thank ineluctable responsibilities for that, magentus ::)
I'm sure I still have that limited edition feta cheese and brine SwissChamp I could send you, if you still want it?
Post by: magentus on October 02, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Post by: firiki on October 02, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
:drink:
Post by: magentus on October 02, 2017, 04:37:02 PM
Post by: El Corkscrew on October 03, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
First, it was pulling a phone's power cable out of an awkward spot on the bottom of the phone. Then, as awlways, I used it to pull out a hot oven rack. Then it was stretching out the new nylon strings on my classical guitar, I used some cloth to prevent damage to the thin nickel coils.
Post by: pfrsantos on October 03, 2017, 07:08:00 PM
:tu: :tu:
Post by: KandiKlover on October 04, 2017, 03:18:29 AM
The hook has assisted me several times this week.
First, it was pulling a phone's power cable out of an awkward spot on the bottom of the phone. Then, as awlways, I used it to pull out a hot oven rack. Then it was stretching out the new nylon strings on my classical guitar, I used some cloth to prevent damage to the thin nickel coils.
Nice. I always just do it over the bridge where it gets a slight bend anyway. Never had any damage issues.
Post by: El Corkscrew on October 04, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
The hook has assisted me several times this week.
First, it was pulling a phone's power cable out of an awkward spot on the bottom of the phone. Then, as awlways, I used it to pull out a hot oven rack. Then it was stretching out the new nylon strings on my classical guitar, I used some cloth to prevent damage to the thin nickel coils.
Nice. I always just do it over the bridge where it gets a slight bend anyway. Never had any damage issues.
Oh, really? I go up and down the length of the string... Nylons take FOREVER to stretch out are softer/easier to bend/dent. When stretching steel strings I don't worry about it and just use the hook directly. :cheers:
Post by: Nix on November 06, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
So today I decided to fix that problem on a Huntsman:
(https://i.imgur.com/ipy3kQS.jpg)
Without the keychain attachment, I have easy access to the wonderful hook.
Post by: Nix on November 07, 2017, 09:08:07 PM
My father-in-law smuggled this English antiquity out of the UK, but it turns out it had been cobbled together from disparate bits by a relatively unskilled...."Antiques Dealer". ::) The bottom fell out and it turned out to have been stuffed with newspaper from 1982. Ahhh, the creative years.
So I disassembled it cautiously and then made a plywood spacer to hold up the inner porcelain bucket inside the oak barrel exterior. The hook made the perfect tool for reaching in between the barrel and the new spacer when working on the fitting. I would have hesitated to use a screw driver as I didn't want to put any unnecessary strain on the edges of the barrel. I could have bent a bit of wire to fish the spacer out....but I had a perfectly good hook in my pocket. :D
(https://i.imgur.com/8MMtpKx.jpg)
Post by: El Corkscrew on November 07, 2017, 09:11:41 PM
Post by: VICMAN on November 07, 2017, 10:43:35 PM
Post by: twiliter on November 08, 2017, 12:51:45 AM
Post by: twiliter on November 08, 2017, 12:52:55 AM
I've struggled a little with accessing the hook on some models because of the location of the hook near the keychain attachment point. My big fingers have a little trouble getting a grip on the small nub on the bend of the hook to pull it open. The keychain attachment blocks my fingers just enough to make it tricky.
So today I decided to fix that problem on a Huntsman:
(https://i.imgur.com/ipy3kQS.jpg)
Without the keychain attachment, I have easy access to the wonderful hook.
This is one of the main reasons I remove keyrings from 91s. :tu: :cheers:
Post by: Don Pablo on November 08, 2017, 01:16:59 AM
Another happy hooker. :like::o
Post by: Nix on November 08, 2017, 01:35:04 AM
Another happy hooker. :like:
:facepalm:
Yes, yes indeed. But not in the Rugby sense...... :whistle:
Post by: twiliter on November 08, 2017, 01:48:03 AM
Post by: ironraven on November 08, 2017, 03:31:18 AM
Another happy hooker. :like:
Off topic, but that brings back memories.
In college, I had a couple of summers where I worked for the school so I was living in the dorm. There was a rug maker's convention there every summer, still is I think. And the little old ladies would chase down any likely looking young men and say things like "looking for a hooker, sonny?" or just "I'm a hooker to". I learned to respond with things like "I'm tempted, but my girlfriend would kill me if she found out".
Post by: ddogu on January 14, 2018, 12:48:01 AM
:cheers:
I'm sure everyone has already seen this historic piece of film:
https://youtu.be/cN231NO5ij0
Am I the only one who got emotional over this video?..
Post by: VICMAN on January 14, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
Am I the only one who got emotional over this video?..
I have seen it before, but I think it is a good video. I was impressed when the guy did the pullups. I had not realized the hook would take that kind of pulling force prior to seeing the video.
:like:
Post by: Barry Rowland on January 15, 2018, 01:05:34 AM
Post by: GreenFish on February 05, 2018, 09:02:38 PM
(https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/27710446_2024466044260904_1032681625_o.jpg?oh=935828cd46aab21eb918b173403d1909&oe=5A7A45DA)
Post by: ToolJoe on February 09, 2018, 03:02:50 AM
Post by: ThePeacent on February 09, 2018, 04:48:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YiKOeT5.jpg)
This bag weighed about 13kgs and amazingly, the plastic held all the stuff without breaking,
but the handles were thin and applied so much pressure that the hand really suffered,
(https://i.imgur.com/SqwnIcF.jpg)
especially in the chilling temperatures out there right now. And no, there were no gloves available
(https://i.imgur.com/uhfnSrU.jpg)
Good implement, worth having :salute:
Post by: pfrsantos on February 09, 2018, 05:17:52 PM
Try it!
:pok: :pok:
Post by: Nix on February 09, 2018, 06:02:11 PM
Post by: Lynn LeFey on February 09, 2018, 06:10:08 PM
EVERY time I read the title of this thread, the song sticks in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdz5kCaCRFM
In one video review show (I think on VH1), in reference to John Popper's bandoleers of harmonicas, a comedian referred to him as 'The Chewbacca of stoner rock'.
Post by: pfrsantos on February 09, 2018, 06:21:03 PM
Smurfit!
EVERY time I read the title of this thread, the song sticks in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdz5kCaCRFM
In one video review show (I think on VH1), in reference to John Popper's bandoleers of harmonicas, a comedian referred to him as 'The Chewbacca of stoner rock'.
Yeah, thanks a lot!
:twak: :twak:
Now, I got this stuck in my head...
:facepalm:
Post by: Lynn LeFey on February 09, 2018, 06:26:52 PM
Yeah, thanks a lot!
:twak: :twak:
Now, I got this stuck in my head...
:facepalm:
As a fan who has 7 of their albums... you're welcome. :hatsoff:
:D
Post by: VICMAN on February 09, 2018, 07:01:09 PM
Smurfit!That is the first time I have heard that Lynn.
EVERY time I read the title of this thread, the song sticks in my head.
Thanks for sharing. :like:
Post by: Lynn LeFey on February 09, 2018, 07:04:55 PM
That is the first time I have heard that Lynn.
Thanks for sharing. :like:
I was 99% sure the thread title was an intentional reference to the song.
The lyrics to the song are hilarious, amounting to "I'm lying to you, and that's okay, as long as the song has a catchy hook".
Post by: zoidberg on February 09, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
essential tool for...
Awarded. :tu:
Post by: El Corkscrew on February 10, 2018, 02:47:18 AM
Smurfit!
EVERY time I read the title of this thread, the song sticks in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdz5kCaCRFM
In one video review show (I think on VH1), in reference to John Popper's bandoleers of harmonicas, a comedian referred to him as 'The Chewbacca of stoner rock'.
:rofl:
Total coincidence :D
Post by: El Corkscrew on May 26, 2018, 05:52:43 AM
Post by: Iron Man 2 on July 03, 2018, 12:00:55 AM
Post by: El Corkscrew on October 17, 2018, 07:13:50 AM
Post by: Don Pablo on October 17, 2018, 10:38:41 AM
My teabags have no string... :cry:
Post by: zoidberg on October 17, 2018, 10:42:53 AM
:like:
My teabags have no string... :cry:
My SAK has no hook... :facepalm:
Post by: Don Pablo on October 17, 2018, 10:45:19 AM
So together, we can make a whole. :drink::like:
My teabags have no string... :cry:
My SAK has no hook... :facepalm:
Post by: zoidberg on October 17, 2018, 10:46:56 AM
So together, we can make a whole. :drink::like:
My teabags have no string... :cry:
My SAK has no hook... :facepalm:
:rofl:
Post by: G-Dizzle on October 17, 2018, 08:53:19 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/3c26055e6f9ca61f3712b4f37009687c.png)So together, we can make a whole. :drink::like:
My teabags have no string... :cry:
My SAK has no hook... :facepalm:
:rofl:
What kind of thread lock did you use? Red or blue?